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Old 10-10-2008, 09:49 PM   #1
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Please add to this list what you think is important (in no order):

1) distance from population
2) high altitude
3) higher altitude relative to surroundings
4) forest/tree cover plus open space
5) soil quality- pH, depth, composition, perk
6) surface water presence, drainage patterns
7) ground water quality, high water table
8) distance from military bases
9) distance from RR
10) distance from cell towers
11) amount of solar radiation (for those using solar panels)
12) reliability/amount of annual of precipitation
13) avoidance of temperature extremes
14) avoidance of poisonous "creepy crawlies" and disease-carrying insects
15) distance/upwind from nuclear power plants, nuclear silos, nuclear targets, and nuclear and other weapons factories
16) distance from chemical factories



please keep adding....
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Old 10-11-2008, 09:19 AM   #2
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Good idea for a thread - I have a similar checklist that I'm using to evaluate land. Here's a few other things to consider...

1- transport options (terrain suitable for bikes/walking/pack animals, quality of existing roads, railroads)
2- defense (how easy to defend the property not only house but also garden and stored items)
3- general access (how many ways onto/off the property)
4- local natural resources (special rocks/minerals, salt, wild animals, hot springs, etc)
5- overall biodiversity (broad range of local flora and fauna)
6- quality of local community (are locals supportive or antagonistic)
7- local knowledge (are people nearby with essential skills you might not have)
8- distance to medical facilities (for treating severe injuries)
9- distance to the sea and ports (sea offers many resources and transport options)
10- language skills (what language do you need to communicate with native/indigenous people in the area or people who might move into the area)
12- quality of infrastructure (are local bridges, dams in good condition)
13- distance to an international border
14- any local caves that can used for hideout/storage
15- protection from climate extremes (flooding, tornadoes, hurricanes, snow)
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Old 10-11-2008, 10:37 AM   #3
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You might like to add:
Distance to fault lines.

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Old 10-11-2008, 12:50 PM   #4
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When all is said and done it is still a **** shoot folks. Or maybe a "spin of the roulette wheel" would be a better analogy. If/when there is a geographic pole shift, we are in for some major surprises. When the site if the equator moves THAT part of the globe is forced up/out because as you know the planet is actually pear-shaped because of the centrifugal force caused by it's rotation. A site with high elevation today might be the new Death Valley (in more ways than one). Go with your gut, and find as many "earth change" maps as possible to cross reference... just my 2c.
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Old 10-12-2008, 12:51 AM   #5
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To put this in perspective, there is a story about a man who had a farm in Virginia. He became very concerned with what was brewing between the northern states and the southern states, and realized that his home was right in the middle. So to protect his family he sold everything he had, packed the personal belongings, and made the arduous journey with his family to a very far away and safe play.

He moved his family to Gettysburg.
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Old 10-12-2008, 01:17 AM   #6
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When all is said and done it is still a **** shoot folks. Or maybe a "spin of the roulette wheel" would be a better analogy. If/when there is a geographic pole shift, we are in for some major surprises. When the site if the equator moves THAT part of the globe is forced up/out because as you know the planet is actually pear-shaped because of the centrifugal force caused by it's rotation. A site with high elevation today might be the new Death Valley (in more ways than one). Go with your gut, and find as many "earth change" maps as possible to cross reference... just my 2c.
Oh, hello unloadedgun, we meet again - a book you may be interested in on this topic is "Path of the Pole" by Charles Hapgood. It covers all aspects of the result of such a thing happening. Also as an interesting companion book, try to get hold of his "Maps of the Ancient Sea Kings." This is a real eye opener and proof that Columbus was aware of where he was going because he had maps that were old in his time.
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Old 10-12-2008, 09:19 AM   #7
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Uhm and what if there isn't a geographic pole shift? Only a collapse of money system, food/fuel shortages, breakdown of government services, major wars, and so on. I'm preparing for that.

I think it extremely unlikely there will be a massive shift of the physical Earth on the scale you describe. What could possibly cause that? If there were such a geographic shift of the scale you have in mind, all the oceans, rivers would move, mountains would tumble and all animals, humans and plants would be wiped out.

Frankly all you have done is hijack a perfectly reasonable thread about things to consider when selecting safe rural areas. Moments like this I really wonder why I even bother to post on this forum.
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Old 10-12-2008, 01:37 PM   #8
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When we discovered Neptune we said "by golly, we've found all of the planets!". But then we noticed a wobble in its orbit... the mathematics pointed us in the right direction, and soon after the calculations were worked out, we discovered Uranus. But Uranus has unexplained wobbles as well, and these are far too large to be explained by Pluto and/or Eros. The math says that there is a large object 4-8 times the mass of Earth on a very long (+3000 year) orbit that is not on the same plane as the other planets; rather it comes from below the solar system and exits from the top. The effect of such a large object bullying its way through the solar system would be unimaginable.

The Earth is a giant magnet. If such a large object passes by, and that object also has a magnetic charge, then we will certainly move. There are some interesting correlations between ancient writings and scientific predictions. Is it possible that Noah's Flood was caused by the gradual shifting of the Earth's crust over several weeks? The oceans would tend to remain stationary, thus sloshing onto the shores like a giant global storm surge. Other areas would become dry. There are Druidic writings that suggest that within human history, temperate areas have become tropical, suggesting a 45 degree pole shift; about 10,000km. If that takes 40 days and nights, then we're looking at an average speed of 10km/h. Life wouldn't be annihilated, it'd just be a little shaken up.

I'm not sold on this theory, but there is more compelling evidence out there for the viewing, and NASA has made some interesting press releases and even more interesting equipment decisions in the last 25 years...

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Old 10-13-2008, 05:09 AM   #9
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John Lipscomb talks about survival gardening in the wild.
This entails an ungarden or stealth garden in wild areas or
parks....let your imagination be your guide. Just remember where you hid it so you can find it again...
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Old 10-22-2008, 06:30 PM   #10
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