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Old 09-26-2009, 06:06 AM   #1
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A resource from the Center for Constitutional Rights -
Published September 2009

At this very moment, the fundamental right to dissent is being restricted, threatened and perilously criminalized. CCR is on the front lines defending the right to dissent and has also re-issued an important resource for all those likely to be targeted for their actions.
http://ccrjustice.org/files/CCR_If_An_Agent_Knocks.pdf
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Old 09-26-2009, 07:15 AM   #2
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"Avon calling"....
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Old 09-26-2009, 09:31 PM   #3
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Just started to read it, but looks to be a great link.


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"An agent may suggest that any unwillingness to speak with her/ him means you must have some- thing to hide."
This is an incredible understatement!

Be very clear on this:
1. There is nothing you can say to ANY officer of the law which cannot/won't be used against you. There is nothing which you can say which will exonerate you.

In most states you are required by law to identify yourself, upon request, to any L.E.O. Anything else you say, is a mistake.

2. They are allowed to tell you any kind of lie they wish. They can not be prosecuted for this! Ever! You, on the other hand can be prosecuted for simply being mistaken (happens all too often).

If you are being questioned, then you have no friends in the room.

Michigan v. Jackson, in which the Supreme Court said in 1986 that police may not initiate questioning of a defendant who has a lawyer or has asked for one unless the attorney is present. The decision applies even to defendants who agree to talk to the authorities without their lawyers.
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Old 09-28-2009, 10:19 PM   #4
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If an agent knocks on your door you do not have to say anything to them . If they are doing an investigation they must inform you of it and its nature. Failure to do so on their part would allow you to avoid having any charge of impeding an officer in his investigation stick in a court of law. The whole purpose of talking to a law enforcement agent is they want you to contract with them .

Lets look at the one instance when they asked you to produce ID . If you haven`t committed a crime you do not have to produce ID . when asked by any officer of the Law to produce ID simply state this phrase: Do you have a claim stating that I have an obligation to produce ID when asked to ? Of course they don`t they will threaten you but really there is nothing they can do . If he say`s he will charge you with impeding in an investigation you had been informed one was going on so how could you have been found guilty of that crime. In order to produce evidence against you they require your interaction with them .
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Old 09-28-2009, 10:34 PM   #5
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he can threaten to charge you with lying to a federal officer which is a real crime
this is not a crime there is no victim

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“stop-and-identify” statute.
The last word in this quote gives it away it means nothing


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Agents will often say they need you to come in and talk to them very briefly and that you are not part of any investigation.
If it is so vital they will show up at your house never go to them


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For example, an agent might ask if you know a person (whom they know that you know) or might ask if you were at an event (at which they know you were in attendance). If you instinctively say “No,” that is a federal felony punishable with fi ve to eight years in prison.
wrong they will try remember a person is a fictitious entity they don`t exist


this document is full of holes I wouldn`t use it except in the emergency of running out of toilet paper.
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