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Old 09-18-2008, 12:13 PM   #51
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CORVO: was währe denn deiner meinung der richtig weg und was ist denn dein plan um uns alle unter einen hut zu bekommen... sollen wir uns alle so eindecken wie unser freund vom nexus magazin?
My understanding of the situation is that we have few weeks for get organized in communities. To keep some food @ home is only a solution for a limited time.
My proposed way is to:

1. identify a clear risk scenario (we have too much data but NO INFORMATION)
2. identify locations
3. Build PHYSICAL communities around shared values (each community will define its owns).

I find this is no anymore a good moment to have long discussion but a time to act!
I love to discuss but in this moment I prefer to focus on what we can do.

Even better to have different alternatives like plan A, plan B, etc.
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Old 09-18-2008, 04:11 PM   #52
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o.k. i start to make some suggestions....
plan A: NO PANIC! stay cool.
plan B: a possible future szenario:

finacial crash -war ( iran, ww3, weather war) - food shortage - epidemics ( population reduce) - police state - alien? - RFID- ? -

how can i try to survive this: i dont´know, if it is the plan i will survive, if not i am o.k. with it. for me it makes no sense to pack my "survival kit".
maybe i am wrong in your eyes, and shut my mouth, if i don´t wanna play the survival game, and this forum the wrong place for me.

by the way there are too many possibilitys and you can not be prepared to every single one.

i can tell you something about my personal enviroment conditions, and neiborhood here at the countryside in bavaria but this will not help the others how live in the city for example......
please share your view too
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Old 09-18-2008, 04:31 PM   #53
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o.k. i start to make some suggestions....
plan A: NO PANIC! stay cool.
plan B: a possible future szenario:

finacial crash -war ( iran, ww3, weather war) - food shortage - epidemics ( population reduce) - police state - alien? - RFID- ? -

how can i try to survive this: i dont´know, if it is the plan i will survive, if not i am o.k. with it. for me it makes no sense to pack my "survival kit".
maybe i am wrong in your eyes, and shut my mouth, if i don´t wanna play the survival game, and this forum the wrong place for me.

by the way there are too many possibilitys and you can not be prepared to every single one.

i can tell you something about my personal enviroment conditions, and neiborhood here at the countryside in bavaria but this will not help the others how live in the city for example......
please share your view too
ALKE
SCENARIOS
I have published a very detailed scenario, based on different fonts here:
http://www.projectavalon.net/forum/showthread.php?t=730

Today St.clair has published some insights about an alternative scenario here:
http://www.projectavalon.net/forum/s...8278#post18278

Independent from the considered scenario all agree about a coming big change with a failure of our actual way to life.

IDENTIFY LOCATIONS:
Michael St.clair indicate south Germany as a good one and I agree.

Build PHYSICAL communities around shared values
We are social beings, we need others to survive. Individualism is the result of our today capitalistic world. In a new world we need to restart from the social base: the family, the great family with all friends, the small village.

I'm NOT a survivalist.
IMHO the plan be must an Ethical motivated one, not to "survive" but to LIVE, creating a new society better society that avoid the errors of the past.

On the other side I disagree with the ones that points only on "good intentions".
You need money, you need an social structure and you need to start today.

Our plan is very advanced but nevertheless we are late.
Consider that we started 10 years ago with team building (human factor) and 6 year ago with infrastructure.

I have a very long experience on this and I'm here to help you to find your own way.
I don't think that we need ONE solution or single place. We need LOT of them.
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Old 09-18-2008, 05:42 PM   #54
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i know your research and i told you before.
and i am an astrolger too, and know what st.clair wrote.

i/we, our family lives already in such a good and ready to help community you mentioned.
problem, our family is the only one, or better myself, who is fully aware of the comming events. but intresingly all around us unconchiously live in houses and have skills, an land and forrests and so on, that we could manage it, whatever comes.
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Old 09-19-2008, 12:44 AM   #55
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Steffen, bin ganz deiner Meinung.

Mich erinnert das hier langsam an den aufgezwungenen Wehrunterricht aus meiner DDR-Schulzeit. Ich bin hier, um mich mit anderen auszutauschen, worüber auch immer und lasse mir mit Sicherheit nicht den Mund verbieten.
Ich habe Camelot oft vorgeschlagen, so ein Forum zu eröffnen und verstehe die sogenannte Groundcrew auch als Austauschplattform für Leser von Project Camelot (nicht nur Avalon).
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Old 09-19-2008, 12:53 AM   #56
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Hey
So i really didn't want to make another comment about the english but here we go.
Well I cannot speak for other people reading this thread but I have been not really able to participate in this thread due to it being in german!
I think if you guys are all able to read books & articles and watch project camelot videos in english you could probbaly also write in here in english?
English is not my mother tongue also - its hebrew , but i do write in english because ... ok you know the reasons already...

But of course , It is also my fault for not speaking perfect german after 6 years here
ok, enough ranting...

My question is,
I am just recently wondering what a guy like me could do , with NO money (at least i dont have to be worried about my bank money - cuz i have none! :P )
No real trade and yeah well I'm kind of a lost guy dreaming of being a part of some community that actually tries to live differently and bring a change for the world (and it has been sort of my wish when i was a young kid in a way also)

any advices?




now for the question
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Old 09-19-2008, 01:01 AM   #57
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Have to state here among friends that my book was turned down by several German publishers, which I find odd.
Versuch mal den Bohmeier Verlag.

...and the other guy is totally correct who stated under point 3: "To reach the source you have to swim against the stream"
Ich bin aber kein Mann.
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Old 09-19-2008, 01:04 AM   #58
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I noticed Hitler hasn't posted in the 'Germany Ground Crew'...Oh well!
Das hast du ja nun erledigt.
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Old 09-19-2008, 10:18 AM   #59
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Steffen, bin ganz deiner Meinung.

Mich erinnert das hier langsam an den aufgezwungenen Wehrunterricht aus meiner DDR-Schulzeit. Ich bin hier, um mich mit anderen auszutauschen, worüber auch immer und lasse mir mit Sicherheit nicht den Mund verbieten.
Ich habe Camelot oft vorgeschlagen, so ein Forum zu eröffnen und verstehe die sogenannte Groundcrew auch als Austauschplattform für Leser von Project Camelot (nicht nur Avalon).

hallo steffen
seh ich auch genauso

hallo ava

sehr guter vergleich

wie genau bist du denn mit project camelot/ avalon verbunden? du übersetzt glaube ich, hattest du mal erwähnt?
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Old 09-19-2008, 01:07 PM   #60
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Greetings, everyone. Does anybody know about the Meier case? Meier supposedly issued a letter to all governments of Europe containing upcoming events in form of “Voraussagen”, which are, unlike prophecies, already written “future history”. Here is a link to this pdf document written in German: warnung_an_alle_regierungen_europas and here is a link to the same info written in English: Warning_to_all_the_governments_of_Europe!
Anyway, the Henoch PROPHECIES (visit FIGU site (it's there somewhere) or Henoch Prophecies for English) are like a worst case scenario with ww3 and things like that, which is still probable given that the latest news of a “war with Iran being a closed deal”.

I am not for doom and gloom, yet I try to stay informed about what is going on (I am concerned but not afraid). Bill and Kerry are doing exactly this, gathering information from everywhere and posting it(Good job you 2). I have also thought about hording rations and possibly migrating to South America, only because of the possibility of war. Regarding 2012, I still have no plans but wait to see how everything is developing.

I will try my best to stay alive and see if it is my destiny to spread my genes that would be part of the future population. If not, no problem at all, since I know that I will inhabit another body anyway and do my share. That’s how I see it. I try to spread the word to family and friends, though.

Regarding David Wilcock, I mostly agree with him on (rejecting) “Doom and Gloom” and other things and cannot help but think that he plays a big role in keeping the masses from falling into the darkness of fear, but I believe this serves well those who are not still spiritually heightened enough to sustain their realities on their own (need of a leader).
My own take on the LAW of ONE regarding jump to 4th density is that actual catastrophes will take place and people will die and since the earth will resonate a new vibration (4th density), people with new abilities will more and more be born and someday the earth will be populated with peaceful, connected people (whose bodies will be inhabited by souls of those who died in catastrophes).

Does anyone know about where to buy canned food (in Germany or Europe) that lasts beyond 2012? Or any other ideas for food? I thought about the creation of a mobile fish farm (aquarium, basically), since fishing in muddy and otherwise polluted waters would be out of the question. Seed storage, dried foods, does anybody have good ideas?
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Old 09-19-2008, 04:35 PM   #61
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Ich hab mir grad den Link zu dem Maier-Fall angeschaut.
Das ist ja unglaublich - ist das wirklich amtlich, dass diese Vorhersagen in den 50ziger Jahren entstanden sind? Die Geschichte kannte ich bis jetzt noch nicht - gut, dass ich wieder was neues zum nachforschen gefunden habe.
Thank you Yndex, very intriguing.
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Old 09-19-2008, 04:50 PM   #62
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hallo yndex

here are some seed links.
www.dreschflegel.de
www.arche-noah.at
www.lubera.ch
www.sativa-rheinau.ch
www.kokopelli-seeds.com
www.jekkashrebfarm.com
www.seedsofitaly.com
www.organiccatalog.com
www.biogartenversand.de
www.oekoseeds.de


if you want some more i have 20 more

you can buy a mashine to dry fruits. but i think "gefriergetroknet" don´t know in german would be better, but one can not make it by yourself......

ask the specialist from the nexus magazin i think he knows best?!

you can buy chicken, or sheeps and goats, for milk, and wool.

greetings
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Old 09-19-2008, 05:00 PM   #63
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hi igniop

i just add some addresses from seed specialists.

they have a very alternativ and intresting community in germany. if you already now like to live very simple. without tap water, and central heating, they already live now, like it could be in the near future and they collected plants and seeds, which will be a big wealth in the future....

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Old 09-19-2008, 06:28 PM   #64
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und noch was....
ich habe gerade einen anruf von der büso partei münchen bekommen.
wem das nix sagt, larouche, neue solidarität....www.bueso.de

am do. 25. sep. 08 um 20 uhr
gaststätte goldener hirsch
renatstr. 35
80634 münchen
U- bahn rotkreuzplatz

spricht helga zepp-larouche seine frau, wegen der wirtschaftskrise und der bevorstehenden wahl....und lösungsvorschlägen....könnte interessant werden

and now in englisch

i just got a call from the german party büso münchen

behind the party is the famous lyndon h. larouche

his wife helga zepp-larouche, speaks in munich ( look adress )
about the finacial breakdown and the larouche solutions for this disaster....
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Old 09-19-2008, 07:07 PM   #65
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Hab noch nie von der Partei gehört, gibt ja in D auch Parteien wie Sand am Meer.
Ich bin übrigens auch gerade Kandidatin bei unseren Kommunalwahlen (für die SVV und als Ortsteilbürgermeister). Das ergab sich aber eher zufällig durch meine Bürgerinitiative, die mich dort vorschlug. Ich rechne mir allerdings keine Chancen aus, eine Stichwahl wäre auch schon ein Sieg. Auf jeden Fall ist es interessant zu sehen, mit welchen Mitteln man dabei von den anderen angegriffen wird.
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Old 09-19-2008, 07:45 PM   #66
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grosse frage an alle wirtschafts durchblicker

kann mir jemand die finanzielle krise in, für einen laien verständlichen deutsch erklären? ich hab heute nachmittag versucht die englische version zu verstehen bin aber gescheitert, nicht unbedingt am englisch mehr an dem bankensystem und den zusammenhängen, wenn da draussen jemand ist der sich damit auskennt, das währe super nett. vielleicht auch evt. die globalen auswirkungen...in wiefern betrifft es handel und energie versorgung usw.

ich hab gehört bush traut sich schon seit tagen nicht mehr in den senat?

aller beste grüsse und danke im vorraus für etweige bemühungen

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Old 09-20-2008, 12:16 AM   #67
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@Black Sheep of the family: Ob Billy Meier tatsächlich diese Warnung in den 50er schrieb, weiß ich nicht. Wenn man aber bereits glaubt dass er mit ETs Kontakt hat, ist alles andere auch glaubwürdig. Nachdem ich „Disclosure Project“ sah, stand für mich fest dass diese Leute (in DP) nicht gelogen haben. Die unglaublichen Geschichten von Project Camelot waren zwar nicht leicht zu verdauen, aber letztendlich auch einleuchtend, trotz Steigerung an „Verrücktheit“. Jetzt sind wir hier. Sind wir jetzt alle Verrückt geworden? Vor ein paar Monaten hätte ich genau das vermutet. Noch eins drauf: Mir ist heute eingefallen, dass Öff Öff ziemlich genau wissen müsste, wie man eine solche Notgemeinschaft aufbauen könnte.

@alkalurops: Danke für die links - Jede Info ist wertvoll.
Immobilienkrise: http://www.tagesschau.de/wirtschaft/...enkrise16.html
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Old 09-21-2008, 12:07 PM   #68
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thank you index

but i already knew this information, yesteday i found an other link in the internet and with the information st.clair put in yesterday i am fine in the moment....
next time i will use the right thread!
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Old 09-21-2008, 09:29 PM   #69
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Thank you alkalurops for the links and the english !!!
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Old 09-22-2008, 10:44 AM   #70
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hi igniop

....you are welcome!


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Old 09-23-2008, 10:31 PM   #71
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Can anybody tell me how I can delete my account?
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Old 09-23-2008, 11:56 PM   #72
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This video is relatively new
it is in German, brilliant summary

http://www.nuoviso.de/filmeDetail_scholz.htm

The Americans should see this in translation!
That same page offers many other interviews...

enjoy :-)
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Old 09-24-2008, 11:11 AM   #73
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thank you very much st.clair
for the link, very usefull
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Old 09-24-2008, 07:02 PM   #74
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Hi all,

As most of you know I have set up the German Ground Crew as a group also.

Several people have asked the pertinent question: is having this tread and the group is not confusing? I have looked now for about ten days to this situation and have come to the conclusion that it is better to make the distinction clear.

Therefor I would suggest to take the specific group (which is members only) to the group section and leave this tread, the ´german ground crew´ open as a general german discussion forum. If you want we can name it differently. I also suggest to get rid of the other treads that we started in the beginning. So we all have to look at one for the german global discussion.

This means also that in the group (members only) we will start discussing some very specific down to earth practical and organisational issues. Such as the who is who with what skills, where to we set up, how to we meet, what are the meeting points in germany...

we will also discuss divisions of task, according to skills and wish and possibility.

I am also in contact with the belgian and netherlands group. as these are in the lowlands they have plans to move south and the might end up with us. I will also contact other european groups. To set up meeting and communication means.

I dont want to push this upon you all but I do have the feeling that somebody has to take the lead in this to get us kickstarted. I am wlling to do so. LEt me know it I am too pushy. Or if you have other ideas, let me know.

to the members of the group, see new message on the board
to all others following this tread: feel free to join us

lets get serious about these radiant zones
lets put in practice what we believe in

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Kann mir bitte jemand sagen, wie man seinen Account hier löschen kann? Ich suche seit Tagen den Ausgang. Offenbar gibt es keinen.
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