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Old 09-18-2008, 03:30 PM   #1
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Default Brutal: Sarah Palin's Record on Aerial Wolf Hunting

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Old 09-18-2008, 05:12 PM   #2
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it is awful.
mind you the australians shot 10,000 horses like this a few years ago and shot 10,000 other horses in QLD in November last year.
wheres the heart ?
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Old 09-18-2008, 10:43 PM   #3
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it is awful.
Mind you the australians shot 10,000 horses like this a few years ago and shot 10,000 other horses in qld in november last year.
Wheres the heart ?
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Old 09-18-2008, 11:02 PM   #4
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what does m.i,a mean ?
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what does m.i,a mean ?
Usually "missing in action".
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Old 09-19-2008, 01:43 PM   #6
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well sarah Palin obviously does not like animals.

In her office she sits on the skin of a grizzly bear she murdered and on her coffee table sits a crab which is massive and probably was very old before she killed it and had it mounted.

She is not heart centric towards living beings, maybe her children eho knows ?

But is she so different from all the men in power - probably not.

I sort of warm to her in a way - but i think her treatment of animals is appalling and i wonder how she views the vulnerable ?
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...and this has what to do with Economics and Economy?
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Old 09-19-2008, 01:53 PM   #8
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...and this has what to do with Economics and Economy?
what are you saying here ?
can you be more specific please ?

we need leaders that are compassionate and yes it has alot to do with economics, children who starve , countries who have very little have alotto do with what we call economics..

America has in the recent past looked after her own interests and this has inadvertantly led to the suffering of many countries, and it is nt just america here but the western world in general but america is probably the worst offender.

So yes there is a higher expression of ' economics' and it is inclusive and compassionate and considerate to the vulnerable ..


is that what you were getting at ??

when you make one line comments they are just provocative ?
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...and this has what to do with Economics and Economy?
ATS has lots of people like you
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Old 09-19-2008, 02:26 PM   #10
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Default Re: Brutal: Sarah Palin's Record on Aerial Wolf Hunting

This thread belongs somewhere else.

However, to give it some substantial meaning with respect to Economy and Currency take a look at this.

How much is a Million?
How much is a Billion?
How much is a Trillion?

What's the difference between a million, a billion, a trillion?

A million seconds is 12 days.

A billion seconds is 31 years.

A trillion seconds is 31,688 years.

A million minutes ago was – 1 year, 329 days, 10 hours and 40 minutes ago.

A billion minutes ago was just after the time of Christ.

A million hours ago was in 1885.

A billion hours ago man had not yet walked on earth.

A million dollars ago was five (5) seconds ago at the U.S. Treasury.

A billion dollars ago was late yesterday afternoon at the U.S. Treasury.

A trillion dollars is so large a number that only politicians
can use the term in conversation... probably because they
seldom think about what they are really saying. I've read that
mathematicians do not even use the term trillion!

Here is some perspective on TRILLION:

Trillion = 1,000,000,000,000.

The country has not existed for a trillion seconds.

Western civilization has not been around a trillion seconds.

One trillion seconds ago – 31,688 years – Neanderthals stalked the plains of Europe.

Million: 1,000,000
Billion: 1,000,000,000
Trillion: 1,000,000,000,000
Quintillion: 1,000,000,000,000,000,000
Sextillion: 1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000
Nonillion: 1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000
Centillion: 1 followed by 303 zeros
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Old 09-19-2008, 02:30 PM   #11
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This thread belongs somewhere else.

However, to give it some substantial meaning with respect to Economy and Currency take a look at this.

How much is a Million?
How much is a Billion?
How much is a Trillion?

What's the difference between a million, a billion, a trillion?

A million seconds is 12 days.

A billion seconds is 31 years.

A trillion seconds is 31,688 years.

A million minutes ago was – 1 year, 329 days, 10 hours and 40 minutes ago.

A billion minutes ago was just after the time of Christ.

A million hours ago was in 1885.

A billion hours ago man had not yet walked on earth.

A million dollars ago was five (5) seconds ago at the U.S. Treasury.

A billion dollars ago was late yesterday afternoon at the U.S. Treasury.

A trillion dollars is so large a number that only politicians
can use the term in conversation... probably because they
seldom think about what they are really saying. I've read that
mathematicians do not even use the term trillion!

Here is some perspective on TRILLION:

Trillion = 1,000,000,000,000.

The country has not existed for a trillion seconds.

Western civilization has not been around a trillion seconds.

One trillion seconds ago – 31,688 years – Neanderthals stalked the plains of Europe.

Million: 1,000,000
Billion: 1,000,000,000
Trillion: 1,000,000,000,000
Quintillion: 1,000,000,000,000,000,000
Sextillion: 1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000
Nonillion: 1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000
Centillion: 1 followed by 303 zeros

with respect you are right !
what has this to do with sarah Palin and her lack of compassion for other species and how a lack of compassion affects economic policy ????
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Old 09-19-2008, 02:32 PM   #12
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and just as an aside money and how much it is worth is always relative - it is not rocket science

but how much is life worth ? the life of a wolf ? a grizzly bear ? a person ?
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...and this has what to do with Economics and Economy?
additionally the current model of market economies that is favoured by capitalist countries favours the few, it favours the strong, it favours the top 2 % keeping hold of 99 % of the worlds material wealth ? [ numbers might not be exact but you get the picture ]

so compassion has EVERYTHING to do with economics and economic policy !!

AFRICA .. that is a continent that is a fine example of suffering as a result of econmic policies mixed with political agenda that lack heart .. and have led to immense suffering for many ..

The middle East

India

USA V mEXICO AND SOUTH AND CENTRAL AMERICA

The poor areas of America etc etc

SO DONT TELL me where a leaders heart is has nothing to do with economics !

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Old 09-19-2008, 02:58 PM   #14
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The Alaskan wolf population is out of control and needs reduction. If the population continues to increase it threatens other wildlife and systems.

This is not shocking or abhorrent - it is pragmatic.
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The Alaskan wolf population is out of control and needs reduction. If the population continues to increase it threatens other wildlife and systems.

This is not shocking or abhorrent - it is pragmatic.
really !

pragmatic ?

the simple solution is always the final solution - just kill them huh ?

Actually this world belongs to all of us - non humans included.

Palin comes fro a shooting, hunting what I would describe as blood thirsty back ground - taking pleasure from killing is not not something a person with compassion and love would aspire too

the biggest threat to wildlife on the planet is man - i am pretty sure that is the same in alsaka .. what pragmatic solutions do you suggest ?

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Old 09-19-2008, 04:53 PM   #16
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I don't know, I just have the feeling that Palin is a setup for a October surprise, where one or more of the scandals haunting her selection as McCain's Vice Presidential nominee will reveal something sinister thereby ending her bid.
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Old 09-19-2008, 05:09 PM   #17
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This thread is just one example of how people play in to the political games.

I'm not trying to argue whether killing wolves is a good or a bad thing, but what I will argue is that you all are being distracted from the REAL issues the world is facing.

This subject matter is nothing more than slight of hand magic. Show the American people pictures of the poor cute wolves and they ooh and ahh. All the while they are emptying your pockets, preparing for WW3, allowing millions of human beings to starve.

You/we have to pick our battles and I find it hard to believe that the livelyhood of the wolf is at the top of the "To do" list for any of us. Personaly if the wolf is at the top of the list, I say let it all burn.
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I find it hard to believe that the livelyhood of the wolf is at the top of the "To do" list for any of us. Personaly if the wolf is at the top of the list, I say let it all burn.
you are missing the point completely .. it is about compassion and love and having fair / kind and balanced leaders ..

Having said that all animals are important in my opinion including the wolf .. so it is pretty heartless the comment you have just made

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you are missing the point completely .. it is about compassion and love and having fair / kind and balanced leaders ..

Having said that all animals are important in my opinion including the wolf .. so it is pretty heartless the comment you have just made
Personaly I'm not here to warm hearts or make friends, I'm here for the truth.

The truth is, the wolf has nothing to do with the extreme problems our world is facing. So go for it, stand on your stump and preach about the wolf. In the end when the nukes are going off and theres nothing left, won't you wonder if your efforst were in vein?
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Personaly I'm not here to warm hearts or make friends, I'm here for the truth.

The truth is, the wolf has nothing to do with the extreme problems our world is facing. So go for it, stand on your stump and preach about the wolf. In the end when the nukes are going off and theres nothing left, won't you wonder if your efforst were in vein?

that is a hard/ harsh thing to say, there is no truth without heart ....

you will never find the ' truth ' because your mind alone cant see it .. all it can see and all it will chase is smoke and mirrors .. good luck on your hunt for the truth.

The truth is that that love and compassion has everything to so with the way our world has and is manifesting and more specifically the lack of love and compassion is why we have manifested what we are currently living...

you feed he elite with your attitude whether you are aware of it or not .. they will love you

the truth is wake up and the world wakes up and I mean wake up to the truth of consciousness not conspiracy theories ..

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Confucious Said...

Perfect yourself.

Then perfect your family.

Then perfect your community.

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It's obvious some of you are missing my point, especialy the ones private messaging me rather than maning up and putting it here for all to see.

Like my original post says, I'm not here to argue the livelyhood of the wolf. I'm just trying to make the point that you have to focus on the most dire problems first then work down the ladder.

The fact is, we can sit here and argue about the wolf and the "heartless" killing of these animals. I'm only suggesting that the discussion be focused on problems of a grander scale and the heartless sole that considers the use of nuclear weapons, the pilfering of it's people, allowing millions to starve to death.

After these problems are solved, then lets move on to lesser evils.
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Then perfect your family.

Then perfect your community.
Simple yet true.
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It's obvious some of you are missing my point, especialy the ones private messaging me rather than maning up and putting it here for all to see.

Like my original post says, I'm not here to argue the livelyhood of the wolf. I'm just trying to make the point that you have to focus on the most dire problems first then work down the ladder.

The fact is, we can sit here and argue about the wolf and the "heartless" killing of these animals. I'm only suggesting that the discussion be focused on problems of a grander scale and the heartless sole that considers the use of nuclear weapons, the pilfering of it's people, allowing millions to starve to death.

After these problems are solved, then lets move on to lesser evils.
well who is privately messaging you ?
for the record it is nt me !

You are here to argue cos that is all you have been doing ! so you might as well be honest

If you had nt noticed this thread was about wolves .. so why are you going on about nuclear war .. start a nuke war thread
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Perhaps the OP would prefer to move this discussion here:

http://www.peta.org/forums/
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