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Old 11-02-2008, 07:22 PM   #1
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Wink Will you leave if the forum is a Paid Subscription?

Also, let us know if you plan on staying if the forum becomes a paid subscription forum.
This poll will help us understand how a paid subscription service
will affect the Avalon forum.

Thanks,
Kevin - Project Avalon Spiritual Mediator

Last edited by Suriel; 11-02-2008 at 07:44 PM. Reason: made it an if question instead just to get a response
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Old 11-02-2008, 07:24 PM   #2
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Also, let us know if you plan on staying after the forum becomes a paid subscription forum.
Why make it subscription, surely knowledge should pass freely?
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Old 11-02-2008, 07:57 PM   #3
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Default Re: Will you leave if the forum is a Paid Subscription?

I could afford to pay but out of principal for those who could not I would have to vote against subscriptions.

Would I leave? Great question but I cannot say.

If some other system of funding could be found hopefully we would never have to discriminate against people because of their inability to pay. This kind of information should be free to all.
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Old 11-02-2008, 08:02 PM   #4
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If there is an expense to hosting the forum. Then charge to offset the exspenses.

This is not about withholding information that is free via Camelot.

If people are actually interested in preparing, contacting folks, etc... it is worth it.
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Old 11-02-2008, 08:04 PM   #5
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WE ALL would LEAVE and just open a NEW ONE
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Old 11-02-2008, 08:10 PM   #6
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WE ALL would LEAVE and just open a NEW ONE
I agree. it's not hard to create a website and this forum is run off a basic template, so the only money it would cost to run this site is paying for server space or buying your own server. with that said if the majority of the people on this site payed a fee even a small one it would be way more than enough to keep the site going.
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Old 11-02-2008, 08:04 PM   #7
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I am sorry to say that i would leave if/when avalon becomes a pay site, I see no point in paying for info i can just as easily get for free.
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Old 11-02-2008, 08:10 PM   #8
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I love Project Avalon. I have awoken SO SO much and learned so much. Unfortunately, I have to feed my child before paying for any forum/website and I think it will make allot of people leave, newcomers who don't know what this is about wouldn't even enter, and you might lose over 50% of the people who aready come here..
I would sadly have to leave too.
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Old 11-02-2008, 10:00 PM   #9
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Old 11-02-2008, 10:25 PM   #10
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I personally do alot more reading than posting, but I for one would be gone for sure if this goes to a paid subscription for one reason:
I was reading a thread a while back regarding firearms as being an item to have in preparedness. Really interesting, until the thread was shut down because "we don't condone guns".
Thats fine and all since its their site and its free. But if it goes to a pay basis, I think it should be a forum of the people. And if people want to talk about firearms, they should have right without being shutdown.
But I seriously doubt those types of rules would change.

My 2 cents.
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Old 11-02-2008, 11:48 PM   #11
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If I could pay with a laser card or possibly make a bank transfer then I'd stay.
I don't have a credit card, nor do I use paypal.
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Old 11-02-2008, 11:50 PM   #12
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I personally do alot more reading than posting, but I for one would be gone for sure if this goes to a paid subscription for one reason:
I was reading a thread a while back regarding firearms as being an item to have in preparedness. Really interesting, until the thread was shut down because "we don't condone guns".
Thats fine and all since its their site and its free. But if it goes to a pay basis, I think it should be a forum of the people. And if people want to talk about firearms, they should have right without being shutdown.
But I seriously doubt those types of rules would change.

My 2 cents.
Is that true? Guns don't kill...people kill.
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Old 11-03-2008, 12:30 AM   #13
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Charge for truth? Come on now.

Well if your going to charge for seeking the truth and reporting back to us that would be worthy of charge. I'd pay.

But if you've got truth all figured out and feel the need to charge for it, well that sounds like your getting organized. What a minute, are you guys starting a church?
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Old 11-03-2008, 01:01 AM   #14
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Some people want to remain undetected on forums like Avalon as credit cards track the identity of users.

I agree with a paypal donation system giving members the choice
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Old 11-03-2008, 01:16 AM   #15
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There has been an explosion of activity in the last 2 months with copious amounts of information shared. IMO a sliding scale of useful information, resources and links vs personal opinions will adjust to the latter in the next coming months so people may not want to pay for another's opinion..just like mine right now

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Old 11-03-2008, 03:06 AM   #16
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I personally do alot more reading than posting, but I for one would be gone for sure if this goes to a paid subscription for one reason:
I was reading a thread a while back regarding firearms as being an item to have in preparedness. Really interesting, until the thread was shut down because "we don't condone guns".
Thats fine and all since its their site and its free. But if it goes to a pay basis, I think it should be a forum of the people. And if people want to talk about firearms, they should have right without being shutdown.
But I seriously doubt those types of rules would change.

My 2 cents.

I've advocated, several times, for firearms on my "For Survivors Eyes Only" thread - its been here for over a month, and the mods haven't cut it off.
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Old 11-03-2008, 03:20 AM   #17
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I've advocated, several times, for firearms on my "For Survivors Eyes Only" thread - its been here for over a month, and the mods haven't cut it off.
Yeah I don't know then, I just remember that thread because it was exclusive to firearms.
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Old 11-19-2008, 10:35 PM   #18
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Default Re: Will you leave if the forum is a Paid Subscription?

Wish they had grandfathered in current members and required subscription for new members. Other sites have done this and it provides value by keeping the postings going while at the same time showing value to potential subscribers. a good model IMO. The model they are using will strip posting to a trickle and who wants to join a board with little content?
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Old 11-19-2008, 10:57 PM   #19
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Wish they had grandfathered in current members and required subscription for new members. Other sites have done this and it provides value by keeping the postings going while at the same time showing value to potential subscribers. a good model IMO. The model they are using will strip posting to a trickle and who wants to join a board with little content?
That's exactly what I said and I still think it's the only way this site will survive.
It's a shame to kill a forum with so much potential.
And what happens when only a very few subscribe??
There will be a empty forum and no money in their pockets for whatever.
So what happens then?? Maybe I'm stupid but that makes no sense to me
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Old 11-19-2008, 11:00 PM   #20
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Wish they had grandfathered in current members and required subscription for new members. Other sites have done this and it provides value by keeping the postings going while at the same time showing value to potential subscribers. a good model IMO. The model they are using will strip posting to a trickle and who wants to join a board with little content?

Oh yes, without a doubt, there will be an exodus. It will be quiet for a while.

But make no mistake. The pay board can not only survive, it can thrive.

Another vibrant board, ldsavow.com has over 1900 active members.
But forget about lurking at another voice of warning. You have to pay to even peek. I'm a member and we do not belong to the LDS Church.
They run classes. They have group buys, and they are bound to a guideline
of silence. What is said there stays there which encourages a free and polite discussion. Count yourself lucky that you will be able to read here at Avalon should you choose to surf by for a visit.
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Old 11-19-2008, 11:08 PM   #21
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I'm excited I found a new place to network



http://www.astrovera.com/forum/index.php
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Old 11-19-2008, 11:15 PM   #22
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I read part of this thread earlier, and have just come back to the end.

My suggestion, directly to you both Bill and Kerry, is why don't you have the moderators (and yourself) do a fund raising drive like Public Broadcasting stations do it?

That way it is voluntary... and with enough convincing... you should be able to justify your case for seeking more contributions.

Please consider this...
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Old 11-20-2008, 01:28 PM   #23
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I'm excited I found a new place to network



http://www.astrovera.com/forum/index.php
Do they edit/remove posts there? I've heard complaints of it here but havent experienced it.
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Old 11-20-2008, 01:42 PM   #24
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I am illiterate in forums, internet, etc, I don't know how to pay, although, I am willing to.
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Old 11-20-2008, 04:48 PM   #25
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I'd like to suggest this is silly-ness, but with all the pages of interest I'd suggest why?
Bush2 is out PE Obama's in -- shoot what else is there to whine about? oops
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