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View Poll Results: Do you Think TPTB are Here on AVALON ?
Yes ... Definately ( Can't See Why Not ! ) 84 68.29%
No ! "Tumble Weed" 7 5.69%
Maybe ... They Could Be Here !? 25 20.33%
Not Sure .... There Two Buzy Planning Our DOOM ! 8 6.50%
Multiple Choice Poll. Voters: 123. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 11-03-2008, 06:30 AM   #1
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Hey You,


Do you Guys believe there are people setup here by TPTB to Monitor what is going on & Mislead people in the Wrong Direction ? POST what you think & Let your Voice be Heard ! Don't Forget To Cast Your VOTE !
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Old 11-03-2008, 06:41 AM   #2
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Ken Adachi from "EDUCATE YOURSELF" is convinced his site takes a lot of hits from the CIA via their related ISP's.

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Old 11-03-2008, 07:48 AM   #3
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"PTB" is getting a little old here. I've used the abbreviation myself when struggling to describe a faceless controlling power, but it's just not that simple.
We are the PTB, they are us, as far as PA is concerned.

I think a better question would be: "Are there subversive entities embedded in PA that wish to discredit credit accrued?"

Certainly they are here. No question.

I'm not sure if our opinions of that matters though.

Now as to specifics....that would be helpful.

Anyone?

p.s
Reuters, why so many polls w/ all members's votes displayed?
I count at least 5 in the last few days.
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Old 11-03-2008, 07:58 AM   #4
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I'm not quite sure as to how tags are actually attatched to threads, ( as I understand it, they must be added by the OP)
but, Reuters, I was wondering why one of the tags for this thread is:

"bill and kerry suspicious"?

Is this what you're hinting at?
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Old 11-03-2008, 08:04 AM   #5
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@Reuters: I am amazed you even needed to ask the question!

IMO: Yes, frequently. Either by posing as a member of simply watching the wires.

Let me ask you - what of it?
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Old 11-03-2008, 09:37 AM   #6
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Coincidence?
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Old 11-03-2008, 10:24 AM   #7
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If so, so what?
In 1984 Emmanuel Goldstein and the other side are run by the gov, to control any opposition by attracting them like a magnet. But if one KNOWS that that is the case, one can still use it as a mule to transfer info with....

And yes of course, they would want to control what whistle blowers are allowed to get their info out, and what whistle blowers, should have their whistle removed. How predictable it all is.

btw:
Bagatell, is that the related to the Il_Bagattel from Surfing the Apocalypse, where it is considered a waste of bandwith and time and one is prevented from loging in when one asks the simple question,
How is it possible that Americans allow their government to alienate their unalienable rights?
Part of the same forum group (CIA Central) that it seems always goes ofline in a group, where Lancifer originates that presented this 'info' you call 'coincedence', before?

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Old 11-03-2008, 12:33 PM   #8
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Well of course they are but they are probably not super worried what we think about it either way. I mean what would they have learned thus far that would matter, basically they think we are a bunch of militant peace spreaders always spouting about love :-). I mean they could discredit here as loonies in 2 minutes and who would care. I can only presume that they are interested to hear what we think, and they may not all be negative of course.
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Old 11-03-2008, 01:03 PM   #9
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I wouldn't be surprised if their not reading our words from their ships - and I don't mean ships sitting on the water - Hi Norval.
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Old 11-03-2008, 01:22 PM   #10
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Would the PTB start up every thread as a 'Poll' to find out everyones views ...? lol



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Old 11-03-2008, 01:30 PM   #11
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What is PTB?
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Old 11-03-2008, 01:32 PM   #12
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Powers that Be. - Of course everything is monitored - we are seen as dangerous people - because we dare to think outside the box - or even think.
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Old 11-03-2008, 02:46 PM   #13
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Here at Avalon?
uhmmmmm if you check, this is Camelot.



now, , , back to my morning
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Old 11-03-2008, 02:59 PM   #14
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Of course they will be monitoring p avalon so what, they are the souless ones and they are the ones who worry about these sites because they are weak and they know it, when you have to hide and do everything behind the scenes are they real men or women no they hide behind their false power, titles that are not earned, flashy clothes, fancy cars fine houses, obscene incomes, obscenes egos youve seen them its an emminence front.We will have to show them how to be truly alive in the coming years, through love compassion, forgiveness, helping people less fortunate,treating our relations the animals and birds and all living things with respect. All the hiding ones know is secrecy murder and mayhem to get their way but the big boys have to get someone else to do it for them because as I said before they are weak, can you imagine some of the elite family members going into warefare standing on your side and you having to depend on them, if the hiding ones had to fight in their wars end of story no more wars.Anyway back to the dark postings on this site you can feel the energy in their words negative, roll right over them and speak our truth. OH MITAKUYE OYASIN
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Old 11-03-2008, 03:06 PM   #15
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well i was here when I typed this message and I am a power that be!

dont worry about the PTB's or the FBI's or the KGB's or the NSA's or the CIA's...

its those LMNOP's you gotta watch.

ahhhhh....im goin to norvals for coffee
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Old 11-03-2008, 03:07 PM   #16
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Here at Avalon?
uhmmmmm if you check, this is Camelot.
Whats that logo in the top left of the page saying then?
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Old 11-03-2008, 04:05 PM   #17
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Bagatell, is that the related to the Il_Bagattel from Surfing the Apocalypse,
no, not me.
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Old 11-03-2008, 04:44 PM   #18
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Powers that Be. - Of course everything is monitored - we are seen as dangerous people - because we dare to think outside the box - or even think.

Every group , even insignificant , is monitored by the government crims .
Project Avalon or Camelot are no exception to the rule . That' my belief .
The spooks are the ones that keep this rubbish system going . Politicians come and go , but the spooks remain ...
Manipulation of private people's lives is more common than many would believe ; in some extreme cases people's so called friends are actually paid imformers . In Anglo Saxon countries everything is rigged , judges , the legal system , the Schools , the Universities , the careers of " chosen ones " , the public service and even the Medical Centres . The result of a spook operation can be seen In Australia with the set up by the local spooks of a pupular judge that must have displeased the PTB .
After more that 5 years of " being investigated " by Australian and Italian spooks , I have acquired some experience of those methods .

http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au...-17044,00.html
http://www.banned-in-america.net/ame...ir-judges.html
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Old 11-03-2008, 08:10 PM   #19
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[QUOTE=raulduke;68948]"PTB" is getting a little old here. I've used the abbreviation myself when struggling to describe a faceless controlling power, but it's just not that simple.
We are the PTB, they are us, as far as PA is concerned.

I hate to sound like an un-hip nitwit but what is "PTB" and "PA"???
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Old 11-04-2008, 12:12 AM   #20
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I hate to sound like an un-hip nitwit but what is "PTB" and "PA"???

Don't worry freekatz, I've had to go to wiki to look up alot of these web terms and abbreviations, as this is the first forum I've ever been a member of, so imho, lmao, rofl and the like were gibberish to me, until recently.


The PTB are: the Powers That Be, and they won't leave me be, but as I said, I grow tired of the term, as it implies helplesseness.

PA is Project Avalon.

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Old 11-04-2008, 01:02 AM   #21
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Don't worry freekatz, I've had to go to wiki to look up alot of these web terms and abbreviations, as this is the first forum I've ever been a member of, so imho, lmao, rofl and the like were gibberish to me, until recently.


The PTB are: the Powers That Be, and they won't leave me be, but as I said, I grow tired of the term, as it implies helplesseness.

PA is Project Avalon.
Thank you raulduke!

By calling "them" the powers that be aren't we handing our power over to them?
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Old 11-04-2008, 04:01 AM   #22
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this could be another social engineering project as many other active ones out there.
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Old 11-04-2008, 12:20 PM   #23
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Yes, many of the PTB agents are here, , , ,

The real question is, why?
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Old 11-04-2008, 12:42 PM   #24
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Absolutely.

Why else hits from Reston, VA?
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Old 11-04-2008, 12:44 PM   #25
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Why not? I'd like to extend my welcome mate out for the "PBT" and thank the "PTB" for if it were not for the "PTB", we would not be here sharing the info. Let's let the "PTB" know how much we "LOVE" and "CARE" for them as well.


LOVE ONE, LOVE ALL!
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