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Old 10-08-2008, 07:49 AM   #1
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Default Michael Moore & Alex Jones & Bill Cooper

All 3 of these people have such varied views but all "stick" to the same agenda.

Michael Moore is very popular with the laymen (god i hate that word haha)

Alex Jones is more so "underground" frankly because he can be quite absurd, if i ever seen someone suffering from Psychosomatic tendencies it would be Alex... he can be a wreck emotionally and when he yells it can be quite scary even to me, more so someone trying to understand this hole mess.

Bill Cooper was something of a maverick (do we really need to say that?) who held back nothing and was ultimately killed for it. He had NO problem expressing who he felt was behind this hole mess.

All and all these 3 men will be set in stone for what they have done, share your thoughts on this odd trivium.

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Old 10-08-2008, 07:55 AM   #2
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Cooper did not have any time for Jones; you can research this on the web. I don't have any time for Moore - I believe him to be a disinfo agent (Bowling for Colombine (sp?) distorted the truth to fit the story).

Cooper is the only guy I hold in high regard of these three.
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Old 10-08-2008, 08:04 AM   #3
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Not to forget Jordan Maxwell... It's incredible how deep this man went in his research...
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Old 10-08-2008, 08:05 AM   #4
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Yup Moore is a shill 100%.
The fact that his movies even made it into the theaters is proof enough.
He never touches any of the real evidence such as the fact that the way
the buildings fell defies the laws of physics as we know them.

I've seen no real proof that Alex is a shill but really it doesn't matter when it comes
right down to it.
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Old 10-08-2008, 08:14 AM   #5
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Actually i had a paragraph (deleted it) about Micheal Moore and his what i call "guilt trips". I was actually ****** off when Mr Moore brought that kid in the wheel chair and pretty much said to that employee "you shot him, K-Mart bullets shot this young man", what an *******!

How could i forget Jordan Maxwell!! He had some great info indeed but something about him says "no go" for me, i know he is quite religious and can be a little one sided he still has some good information.

I wonder what Micheal Moore is doing now a days? anyone have a clue??
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Old 10-08-2008, 08:25 AM   #6
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Not to forget Jordan Maxwell... It's incredible how deep this man went in his research...


also is incredible how many many mistakes this man has made .....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jwugLx2rSJY

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Fr3Etam50o

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vG39Jj8b1Dw

.....etc....


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Old 10-08-2008, 08:26 AM   #7
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How could i forget Jordan Maxwell!! He had some great info indeed but something about him says "no go" for me, i know he is quite religious and can be a little one sided he still has some good information.
Actually Maxwell isn't religious at all. In fact he has debunked religions better then anyone else I've seen.
He just believes in the One.
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Old 10-08-2008, 08:32 AM   #8
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also is incredible how many many mistakes this man has made ....

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I watched those videos awhile back and find them to be pretty unfair. Firstly they don't really
disprove anything Maxwell says. The maker of the videos makes lots of claims
but provides no proof himself. Plus he sources books that were quite obviously
written by shills.
I think the maker just can't except that nearly everything he has been taught is a lie.



I don't believe everything Maxwell says either for the record but anyone can hack apart other peoples speeches and make them look bad.
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Old 10-08-2008, 09:22 AM   #9
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Jones is a good guy no matter what the attackers say. If you listen to him enough you cna see his calmer side plenty. He does talk about the people he is accused of not talking about. ie, the jesuits, vatican, zionists.

Moore seems to be fitting that role of having someone on both sides.

havnt done much reserahc on Cooper but I will and I love jordan Maxwell, we all made a few errors, nobody is perfect
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Old 10-08-2008, 09:25 AM   #10
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The maker of the videos makes lots of claims
but provides no proof himself. Plus he sources books that were quite obviously
written by shills.
kind a loop here

maker provide no proofs ??

he DID provide and sourced books - that you say are written by shills
and where is yous proofs that those are shills " writen" book .... just because you say that is OBVIOUS ??

snake bites her own tail .... huh?


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Old 10-08-2008, 09:29 AM   #11
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havnt done much reserahc on Cooper but I will and I love jordan Maxwell, we all made a few errors, nobody is perfect
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cooper's view excludes maxwell's and other way around .... that s the fact ...

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it is not problem to make mistake, the problem is to stick with it for a long time....


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Old 10-08-2008, 09:45 AM   #12
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OK... I gotta say the person that to me has DUG
further than anyone I have found ( down that rabbit hole)
is Laura Knight-Jadczyk yea there has been a few mistakes
but the unbelievable research into our reality is massive . . .
and a great deal of it FREE on the net unlike some mentioned above..
( give thanks to Bill & Kerry as well for sharing so much of their work
to all! ) ,,
Check this & offer feedback ,, GOD I would LOVE for
Camelot to interview LAURA .....

http://cassiopaea.org
http://sott.net

also the sott team and Laura is to me hard on other folks
( Alex Jones etc...) cause you have to ask about their agenda
what are they really doing ? they can't ask us to fight
the powers that be with violence ,,, ( to me there really is another
kind of resistance ! )
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Old 10-08-2008, 09:56 AM   #13
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May I ask... what are the mistakes he (JM) made?
Is it a matter of opinion or facts?
I know that he has quite some respect of the "sons of god" etc. but what were the mistakes?
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Old 10-08-2008, 09:59 AM   #14
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Interesting thread JohnWdoe, if that is your real name.

When I saw the title I thought it might be a joke. Like, Michael Moore, Alex Jones and Bill Cooper walk into a bar.....hmmm... i'll think of something.

Seriously though, Michael Moore is almost certainly a disinfo agent, although he has huge exposure and is reponsible for sparking the interest of vast numbers of otherwise unreachable minds. Now, wether or not said minds are then capable or likely to do further research for themselves is a subject for discussion.

Bill Cooper was a good man, and it is awful what they did to him and his family. He made it clear how he felt about Alex Jones.

Initially I felt the same way, Alex is loud, verbose, emotionaly eratic. It is off-putting to someone beginning this sort of research. His outrage can indeed be scary to the point where I must simply stop listening or skip ahead (if listening in the daily archive). After trying to avoid him in researching things like 9/11 or secret governments, I of course continued to bump into his research.

Give him another chance. I've found that he is a good man too, just trying to sort out occult agendas.
He is loud because they are louder. He is verbose because this information is mind numbingly complex. He is emotionaly eratic because he has such high hopes coupled w/ such awful information.

Alex has grown and learned since Bill died. I would never speak for the late Mr. Cooper, but I think that if he were able to hear Alex speak today, he might have a higher opinion of him.

As an example, here is a clip from Alex's show yesterday. He had David Icke on, who he once called a "turd in the punch bowl". This is Alex apologizing for how he once characterized David.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZkRb3LUXQF4
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Old 10-08-2008, 10:09 AM   #15
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May I ask... what are the mistakes he (JM) made?
Is it a matter of opinion or facts?
I know that he has quite some respect of the "sons of god" etc. but what were the mistakes?
yes,.. you can (ask) mate

but if that matter really interest you,. you must research BY YOURSELF

HIS mistakes by me, might not be mistakes by YOU

have a links above to start with ... then cross it with Wikipedia.... etc etc...

good luck,.. it's huge area .... can not be accomplished through few posts




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Old 10-08-2008, 01:29 PM   #16
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Let's not put Michael Moore in the same category as Bill Cooper. One is a disinfo agent and one was murdered for being a true American patriot.


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also is incredible how many many mistakes this man has made .....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jwugLx2rSJY

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Fr3Etam50o

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vG39Jj8b1Dw

.....etc....


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These videos are garbage.

"You need to go back and do your homework." - Jordan Maxwell
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Old 10-08-2008, 01:38 PM   #17
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Let's not put Michael Moore in the same category as Bill Cooper. One is a disinfo agent and one was murdered for being a true American patriot.




These videos are garbage.

"You need to go back and do your homework." - Jordan Maxwell
I agree 100%
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Old 10-08-2008, 01:45 PM   #18
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jones goes nuts because he is tyhe first line of fire to educate the mases of the sheeple. imagine knowing this was coming for 10 yerars and living in country populated by 90% dumbed down morons(no fault of their own). jordan maxwell has known whars coming for the last 48 years.. between these two you get all the info you need..
period

LOL michael moore
its mad when you understand the game, painting the NRA as maniacs, now we know better. all the people we thought were baddies are goodies and vice versa. mugabe (not supporting him) for instance has a broke country due what the uk has done to it.. disarmihg americans isnt going to happen mr OBAMA.. get ready usa its gonna go off like a fire cracker!!

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Old 10-08-2008, 01:55 PM   #19
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I watched those videos awhile back and find them to be pretty unfair. Firstly they don't really
disprove anything Maxwell says. The maker of the videos makes lots of claims
but provides no proof himself. Plus he sources books that were quite obviously
written by shills.
I think the maker just can't except that nearly everything he has been taught is a lie.



I don't believe everything Maxwell says either for the record but anyone can hack apart other peoples speeches and make them look bad.
are you sure you did see them?? ok, i believe you, but i dont believe that you heard them...lol
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Old 10-08-2008, 01:57 PM   #20
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As an example, here is a clip from Alex's show yesterday. He had David Icke on, who he once called a "turd in the punch bowl". This is Alex apologizing for how he once characterized David.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZkRb3LUXQF4
He called his Reptilian views the turd in the punch bowl. Not icke himself. Chinese whispers again
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Old 10-08-2008, 02:09 PM   #21
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Cooper is the only guy I hold in high regard of these three.

Correct
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Old 10-08-2008, 03:49 PM   #22
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OK... I gotta say the person that to me has DUG
further than anyone I have found ( down that rabbit hole)
is Laura Knight-Jadczyk yea there has been a few mistakes
but the unbelievable research into our reality is massive . . .
and a great deal of it FREE on the net unlike some mentioned above..
( give thanks to Bill & Kerry as well for sharing so much of their work
to all! ) ,,
Check this & offer feedback ,, GOD I would LOVE for
Camelot to interview LAURA .....
I would like to see an interview with Laura, though I had a very strange experience with the Sott team. I sent them an email, asking them if they could enlighten me about a personal experience of a spiritual nature I had with someone. They wanted to know the name of the person I was speaking about. I explained that this person was unknown, to reveal their identity would betray a confidence and their identification was irrelevant in that I was only interested to find out if my experiences had dovetailed with anything that they had heard of. They insisted that I reveal the name or they wouldn't respond. I found this a bit disturbing.
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Old 10-08-2008, 04:26 PM   #23
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William (Bill) Cooper was the man. A man of iron will and courage. He made some mistakes along the way but so do we all. His book Behold A Pale Horse will remain a Rosetta Stone for alternative research and thought for generations to come. He stood for his beliefs bravely and lost his life for it. Not many of us can claim to know anyone who has made that ultimate sacrifice even when they didn't have to. Further more his videos (on Youtube now) of the JFK assassination are a must see for anyone who thought they had the whole thing figured out.

I agree with what people here are saying about Michael Moore. He doesn't touch the dangerous issues and can remind you of a male version of Rosie O'Donnel.

Alex Jones used to get under my skin with his criticism of David Icke whom I will touch upon next. But Alex has reputed his trash talk about Icke and stated that with everything he's learned lately that he was wrong to discount some of the more far out claims that Mr. Icke has made. Alex remains a beacon of resistance and I don't care how much he yells and screams. It's about time somebody started doing it.

David Icke isn't on this list and I feel he should be. His book And The Truth Shall Set You Free almost rivals Behold a Pale Horse. Almost. David Icke has remained committed to exposing the truth despite ridicule and never shied away from where his evidence has led him no matter how bizarre. His most difficult claims are hard for me to even swallow but the guy has been right too often for me to laugh just as Alex has claimed. His research into politicians across the globe being involved in Devil Worship can be cross referenced with many sources along with their calling cards. He is not afraid to claim that interdimensional forces are at work which is further than many are willing to tread which I applaud. The days of just seeing things in 3 dimensions needs to end so that we can see a bigger picture of manipulation in my opinion. Icke has exposed this wonderfully in many of his books.


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Old 10-08-2008, 04:29 PM   #24
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The point is, they are all good people taking a different path with almost the same goal. Its attempts at seperation that cause these debates and people attacking one of them.

None of them can be 100 % correct but they can all be mostly correct.
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Old 10-08-2008, 04:40 PM   #25
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Jones has awaken millions, he is exactly what America needed.

He is a little coarse but, that's what is needed to energize some that are in a deep sleep.

What about Jeff Rense, He is softer spoken and gets right to the point.

No comment on Moore.

I praise all who will shed some light on this cabal.

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