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Old 10-24-2008, 01:58 AM   #1
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Has anyone else here heard of, or remember something called:

"The Urantia Book"

?

To begin with, Please! can we just relax?

I am not pushing, selling, recommending, suggesting, implying, prosthletizing, preaching, or any other damned thing that leads up to, or sneaks up on doing any of the above. I'm on a forum where, it seems like there's a fairly high percentage of adults, and "honest people".

Such places have always seemed to be where people can air, try out, and throw out ideas, impressions, etc, and learn from rattling them against similar kinds of folk.

I'm even in the book section

The Urantia Book is simply one of those things I encountered along the way, that I could never quite 100% make up my mind about. Couldn't completely discard, I guess, and so it pops up from time to time.

I just a quick search that revealed:
Urantia.org: And they say they, "Urantia Foundation was established in 1950 to be the custodian of the inviolate text of The Urantia Book and to ensure that the book's teachings are spread, with the help of readers and fraternal organizations, to all people."

Then theres a
Urantia Book Fellowship: They're not too gabby about just how they came to be. It appears there was a split, along about 1970 and these two sites are the result.

Both sites will allow you to read the critter for free, online.

I even found that it's still available @ Amazon.
Current price: $15.61, used ones for around $7.50.
he heh
I purchased my copy, hardbound, in about 1973. Back then I had a boundless thirst, and was determined to leave no stone unturned. This particular stone cost me $50.00 and it was a 2 week special order.

This is no minor doorstop, either. I mean it is roughly 2,100 8 1/2 x 11 pages, printed on "bible paper" and roughly the same sized type. I guess you'd call this a "channeled revelatory dissertation". Received in a similar fashion as the "book of mormon", the "aquarian gospel of jesus" etc.

You might see how far you get from Page 1. I have, on occasions and with a stiff tail wind, made it up to 50 pages into it, from a random starting point, before my eyes started glazing over.

"To err is divine. To really foul things up requires a computer." - Anon
"But for genuine jaw-droppin'-stupification of the masses... well you have to look to religion." - Fred

One of the first obstacles I faced with this critter, was it's meticulous, endless, and at times tedious partitioning of creation. Just trying to get my brain to get a beginner's handle on that made me thankful I can count all my children, and grandchildren on my fingers and toes.

There are Archangels, each with a department. Assistants, managing deputy assistant understudy angels who even have trainees, and ... a farm team!

It occurred to me one day that there was no need for God to banish Lucifer to "anywhere" or even "anytime"; all he'd have to do was hand him an Org-Chart and say, "Come back when you've memorized this."

And yet, on the same page that I encountered, in one paragraph, 7 distinct names for the "Supreme Creator" of this dance, and no distinction as to which refers to which facet, when, or why; I would come across really clear, and pretty stuff like:
Quote:
God is primal reality in the spirit world; God is the source of truth in the mind spheres; God overshadows all throughout the material realms. To all created intelligences God is a personality, and to the universe of universes he is the First Source and Center of eternal reality. God is neither manlike nor machinelike. The First Father is universal spirit, eternal truth, infinite reality, and father personality.

Or how about:
Quote:
The enlightened worlds all recognize and worship the Universal Father, the eternal maker and infinite upholder of all creation. The will creatures of universe upon universe have embarked upon the long, long Paradise journey, the fascinating struggle of the eternal adventure of attaining God the Father. The transcendent goal of the children of time is to find the eternal God, to comprehend the divine nature, to recognize the Universal Father.

Now, I agree that most of that is fairly "standard fare" you'd expect in the usual "Gnu-Age" book on such things. What kind of set it apart for me, was that according to the story, this stuff was all channeled beginning in 1925 to a group that grew around a 7th Day Adventist minister who took a fancy to spiritualism, about then. No Madam Blavatskys or Crowleys locked in thye closet, either.

One of the other things about the complexity of "theme" of this book, is that it struck an unexpected chord. Given the stuff being floated nowadays about the multiplicity of "non-terrestials" lurking about, and their various purposes for being here....

Well I guess that's where it struck the chord. I really don't have anything approaching an opinion, or even a clue as to whether Urantia might be another version/description of things. "Hide n' watch", I guess.

So, does anyone else know of this book? It's content? What have you?

I'd like to hear what anyone has to say on it.

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Old 10-28-2008, 03:20 PM   #2
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Yes, I read it back in the early 70's...facinating.
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Old 11-01-2008, 12:28 PM   #3
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Very intriguing from what small parts i've read-i only happened across it whilst surfing two years ago-i think it was meant for me to find in a way.It's quite an emotional ride,almost had me in tears of joy in parts.Very in depth literature-enlightening to say the least and projects a very alternate viewpoint on the grand schematics.
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Old 11-01-2008, 12:43 PM   #4
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I've got a dutch copy of the book. The first chapter is pretty difficult to grasp. Once you get through there its not so difiicult anymore. Its a long ride.

Like all books its info and thats all it is. Its the brain that has to do the work. Once you're able to skip between the right and the left hemisphere its less hard to understand.
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Old 11-01-2008, 11:18 PM   #5
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http://www.urantia.info/DownloadCenter.htm#AudioFiles

Downloads in all formats even audio -
read it back in the ninties -
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Old 11-01-2008, 11:30 PM   #6
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I read it through twice, and I will admit it resonates on some levels with me .... and other parts .... not so much at this time. Discernment remains the key, and I often find that at some later time I can re-read and find new understandings and meanings.
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Old 11-02-2008, 01:55 AM   #7
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I read the book, too. I got kind of bogged down with it as I recall, but there were parts of it that are deep and touched the soul.

The parts in particular I do remember well

The one part where the angels or helpers of some kind go and create life on the various planets throughout the universe.

The other part is where the book explains in detail Triunity and the Triune God. Growing up and going to Sunday school I never could really understand or grasp the concept. And as an adult it was just as hard--until I read Urantia. Then it all made perfect sense to me!


I think there is also a passage in there about the races that have been on the earth at one time or another--it assigns colors to them--and how they warred and warred, wiping each other out or blending with each other until they created something new.


I haven't read it since that time and it's been over 25 years. Maybe I should read it again?
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Old 11-02-2008, 05:01 AM   #8
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Fred, I thought that was you.... recognized the sense of humor, heh-heh. Yes, I have a copy of TUB on the shelf. I must say you've got me beat. I didn't make it to page 50. If I was stranded on a desert island, it would be great to have a copy along. I guess I kinda gave up on big reads like that when I got serious about the internet. e.g., just spent the last 30-40 minutes catching up on Terence McKenna's material by watching YouTubes. That would have taken me months just a few short years ago!!!! Anyway, reminds me of a time when I was tripping and I said tomyself, I wonder how big the universe really is? you could lose yourself asking questions like that, man. (to be read in a George Carlin voice) I guess what I'm trying to say is that just a few pages into that book I was feeling pretty much like a pimple on the ass of an ant. And I must confess, I kind of skipped to the end. There I read "God is Love". Being in agreement, I put the book back on the shelf. Since we're on the subject though, have you read "The Keys of Enoch" or the "Voyager" books. Not sure, but I think that all 3 are channeled and all 3 offer involved and fascinating explanations of 'how it is'.
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Old 11-02-2008, 04:41 PM   #9
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Has anyone else here heard of, or remember something called:

"The Urantia Book"

?

To begin with, Please! can we just relax?

I am not pushing, selling, recommending, suggesting, implying, prosethletizing, preaching, or any other damned thing that leads up to, or sneaks up on doing any of the above. I'm on a forum where, it seems like there's a fairly high percentage of adults, and "honest people".

Such places have always seemed to be where people can air, try out, and throw out ideas, impressions, etc, and learn from rattling them against similar kinds of folk.

I'm even in the book section

The Urantia Book is simply one of those things I encountered along the way, that I could never quite 100% make up my mind about. Couldn't completely discard, I guess, and so it pops up from time to time.

I just a quick search that revealed:
Urantia.org: And they say they, "Urantia Foundation was established in 1950 to be the custodian of the inviolate text of The Urantia Book and to ensure that the book's teachings are spread, with the help of readers and fraternal organizations, to all people."

Then theres a
Urantia Book Fellowship: They're not too gabby about just how they came to be. It appears there was a split, along about 1970 and these two sites are the result.

Both sites will allow you to read the critter for free, online.

I even found that it's still available @ Amazon.
Current price: $15.61, used ones for around $7.50.
he heh
I purchased my copy, hardbound, in about 1973. Back then I had a boundless thirst, and was determined to leave no stone unturned. This particular stone cost me $50.00 and it was a 2 week special order.

This is no minor doorstop, either. I mean it is roughly 2,100 8 1/2 x 11 pages, printed on "bible paper" and roughly the same sized type. I guess you'd call this a "channeled revelatory dissertation". Received in a similar fashion as the "book of mormon", the "aquarian gospel of jesus" etc.

You might see how far you get from Page 1. I have, on occasions and with a stiff tail wind, made it up to 50 pages into it, from a random starting point, before my eyes started glazing over.

"To err is divine. To really foul things up requires a computer." - Anon
"But for genuine jaw-droppin'-stupification of the masses... well you have to look to religion." - Fred

One of the first obstacles I faced with this critter, was it's meticulous, endless, and at times tedious partitioning of creation. Just trying to get my brain to get a beginner's handle on that made me thankful I can count all my children, and grandchildren on my fingers and toes.

There are Archangels, each with a department. Assistants, managing deputy assistant understudy angels who even have trainees, and ... a farm team!

It occurred to me one day that there was no need for God to banish Lucifer to "anywhere" or even "anytime"; all he'd have to do was hand him an Org-Chart and say, "Come back when you've memorized this."

And yet, on the same page that I encountered, in one paragraph, 7 distinct names for the "Supreme Creator" of this dance, and no distinction as to which refers to which facet, when, or why; I would come across really clear, and pretty stuff like:

Or how about:

Now, I agree that most of that is fairly "standard fare" you'd expect in the usual "Gnu-Age" book on such things. What kind of set it apart for me, was that according to the story, this stuff was all channeled beginning in 1925 to a group that grew around a 7th Day Adventist minister who took a fancy to spiritualism, about then. No Madam Blavatskys or Crowleys locked in thye closet, either.

One of the other things about the complexity of "theme" of this book, is that it struck an unexpected chord. Given the stuff being floated nowadays about the multiplicity of "non-terrestials" lurking about, and their various purposes for being here....

Well I guess that's where it struck the chord. I really don't have anything approaching an opinion, or even a clue as to whether Urantia might be another version/description of things. "Hide n' watch", I guess.

So, does anyone else know of this book? It's content? What have you?

I'd like to hear what anyone has to say on it.

Fred
You are a very funny man....the fingers and toes comment had me laughing out loud.


The Urantia followers have a lot of infighting about copyrights. The book was received by a Kellog, of the famous cereal family, and because of his rantings, he was placed in an insane asylum. The doctor who was taking care of him became fascinated with his rantings and started writing them down. Beginning 1905 and over a 20+ year period hand-recorded by Dr. William S. Sadler, a noted Chicago physician and psychiatrist. Kellog was not at all interested in what was coming out of his mouth, In successive years more info has been received but the persons will not give their names out.

I personally know of some that have been threatened and harassed.

For it, it can be said the things contained in this book are nothing short of fascinating.

Against it, some so called Christian say it is demonic. That's total bs.

In some aspects it is heavily laden with Adventists view such as the claim that Jesus was Angel Michael in heaven, something the Bible does not put as belief.

The revelations that started coming forth regarding science, have been only lately confirmed.

When the *powers*that*be* heard about this, they wanted to intervene by planting thoughts in the heads of the receivers. It was then that they became a members only organizations loosely based in small pockets of groups that are isolated and they participate in different church scenarios according to their own beliefs.

Urantian followers do not behave in any way like religionists, although some can be quite inflexible and other dabble in strange stuff.

Present day followers heavy into the book claim to receive information through transmissions, they use the letters tr to differentiate from chanellers because in the process they are quite conscious of their own personality. They 'hear' inside
their ears and start transcribing.

Perhaps the most fascinating aspect of Urantian followers is the 11:11 phenomenon proposed by George Barnard over 50 years ago. He says the number belongs to the 1,111 followers of God, the half angel and half human Midwayers, who fought the rebels Satan and Caligastia. 1111 is their calling card. The rebels wanted to shorten the process by which humans would approach their inner God and shorten the evolutionary path. There are more than that number by now. According to George, Satan, Caligastia and their followers have been totally exterminated in the 1990s after been given numerous opportunities to correct themselves. Earth had been placed in a quarantine of sorts because God did not want to contaminate other peaceful planetary beings.

George is an extremely talented and funny man, who can also be quite inflexible in his beliefs.

http://1111angels.com/GeorgeBarnardArchives.html

At present Urantian followers say a new revelation is forthcoming and many are still receiving messages.

An independent confirmation of the existence of the Midwayers has been claimed by Dr. Courtney Brown, a remote viewer who worked for the government and turned to spirituality when he started seeing Jesus and Buddha in remote viewing sessions. That is what stopped the program on the government. The fundamentalists generals thought they were engaging in demonic practices. Dr. Brown is not a Urantia follower.

Dr. Brown has a free book that can be read online.

www.courtneybrown.com


The Urantia book has as you know complicated passages and issues, but it is an incredibly beautiful book when it describes Jesus, prayers and the way to connect to the thought adjuster, or God within.

The most beautiful and liberal of Urantia book websites is:

http://www.truthbook.com/

That is the part that all religious books contribute to mankind, the good parts that join us all.

Happy search!

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Old 11-20-2008, 08:02 AM   #10
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Interesting book indeed. I kinda browsed thru it long time ago. Wouldn't mind to have it in my library.
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Fred, thank you for starting this thread. I was just about to start a thread and ask questions about this book, when I found your post. I think what you say sums it up, 1) Just trying to get my brain to get a beginner's handle on this huge book, 2) I found myself jumping and flipping through many pages trying to find something “good” before my eyes started glazing over, or I began to fall asleep, and 3) I don’t really have an opinion.

Something that did strike me odd… if this book was “divinely” authored… for the benefit of all of mankind… why is it slanted towards Christians.. .why not give us a history of Buddhists, and Muslims, and many other world religions? It does boggle my mind that anyone could author this monstrous book.
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The book was channeled into our existence...and because of that, is tainted...I read it, and found much truth in it, but the over all theme that supports "pre-destination", turned me off... as well as the promotion of Hierarchy... or the "chosen few" ... there are quite a few places where it is off the mark, and finally it jumps the tracks all together.

If I had to say what it was, I would say it is the history of an alternate reality.
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Old 12-12-2008, 12:17 PM   #13
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Hi all!


I read the Urantia Book about since I have 16 more or less.


I know a lot this book and All my life I have tought that this are the Ultimate source of knowledge.



Bot in my many investigations I realize that this chenneled book have a lot of flaws and desinfo, so clever are that is like theosophy desinfo, channeled to from "more elevated beings" (see this blog).


A asked the other day to Dr. Deagle about the Urantia papers and he says that the book was desinfo to and he will gonna talk in his show about it.


That's really tune with the idea of a New World Order New religion.

Defragmenting the believes of the people first (with material like this, the theosophycal new age, the wingmakers, etc) and then making the "solution" with his new religion.


Problem - Reaction - Solution, they allways do that.

Im sorry but I turn out about my believe in this book, at least until I don't discover the "truth" about it, it smells so nice...

Cheers........ mmmmm
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Old 12-12-2008, 05:29 PM   #14
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Read all Four Books...

It is always good to remember...

That said - The Books get about 80% of what is true. Setup, Adminstration and description of Powers and Principalities are accurate. It is also accurate about the Trinity and Triune Nature of the Creation as well as its Makeup (7 Superuniverses rotating around an 8th Central Superuniverse). That said - The Rebellion is also a good account of why Lucifer, Satan, Caligastia, Daligastia and the Midwayers fell from Their former estate...



That stated - The Origins of Mankind - The exclusion of Edits made to Us - and the Nephilim and It's Issues are concoctions/made up within the Book(s). These Items or Issues within them (The Books) should bear further Discernment by those Who read the Urantia Book(s)...

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Hi all!
I read the Urantia Book about since I have 16 more or less.
I know a lot this book and All my life I have tought that this are the Ultimate source of knowledge.
Bot in my many investigations I realize that this chenneled book have a lot of flaws and desinfo, so clever are that is like theosophy desinfo, channeled to from "more elevated beings" (see this blog).

Problem - Reaction - Solution, they allways do that.
Discernment is one thing, a witchhunt is something else.
This book and this brotherhood do not fit in the category of obtrusive prozetylizing. They do not necessarily have ties with the NWO cabal.

So relax, this book might belong to a parallell universe, and then it is in the category 'interesting artifact'
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Hi all!

A asked the other day to Dr. Deagle about the Urantia papers and he says that the book was desinfo to and he will gonna talk in his show about it.

That's really tune with the idea of a New World Order New religion.

Defragmenting the believes of the people first (with material like this, the theosophycal new age, the wingmakers, etc) and then making the "solution" with his new religion.
The problem with NWO religion is that it aims on eliminate religious freedom, the right every one has to choose their own religion, or none at all. They have worked on this project for many years, and it will be a hybrid of belief systems to fit the agenda of a totalitarian world government.
There is no threat in any religion unless they try to make one of them the only choice for all of humanity.
Bill Deagle is a 'fire and brimstone' prophet of the Old Testament type: 'Repent, repent, fear God or we all go to hell or worse.'

You are free to choose this type of religion, but leave the rest of humanity a free choice as well.

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The problem with NWO religion is that it aims on eliminate religious freedom, the right every one has to choose their own religion, or none at all. They have worked on this project for many years, and it will be a hybrid of belief systems to fit the agenda of a totalitarian world government.
There is no threat in any religion unless they try to make one of them the only choice for all of humanity.
Bill Deagle is a 'fire and brimstone' prophet of the Old Testament type: 'Repent, repent, fear God or we all go to hell or worse.'

You are free to choose this type of religion, but leave the rest of humanity a free choice as well.


Of course, the people can believe in anything they want.

I don't have religion, you are saying otherwise, I make it Clear now.


I just put more information about what I have researched to help the decision or simply not If I put more information you can simply choose to don't see it.


More information isn't bad, help the people to judge by themselves.


Why believe something blindly because is well writen? Having so many historical flaws and cientific flaws?


In these times of materialism we seek in anyplace we found to fill the spiritual vacum in us because our ambient.


The thing is if smells nice the wise people at least must investigate something about it efore Blindly believes, it's uncientific, and more if it is channeled, it might be a scam, see the New Age agenda thread for example and the range of the scam, is amazing.


If you see the post you are replying I have readed the book since I had 16 years and I know it very well.

But I research more into it and for now I changed my mind, I changed my mind for Now because this book smells Really nice but the evidence (like the cientific evidence of the archeologyst Jonathan Grey) shows different.

Maybe something to contrast.

Cheers.

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Of course, the people can believe in anything they want.

I don't have religion, you are saying otherwise, I make it Clear now.


I just put more information about what I have researched to help the decision or simply not If I put more information you can simply choose to don't see it.
More information isn't bad, help the people to judge by themselves.
Why believe something blindly because is well writen? Having so many historical flaws and cientific flaws?
Obviously you do have a problem. Most people do not believe blindly. You say you believed blindly in the Urantia Book, until it dawned on you that maybe it was not what you could put your trust in after all.

You should 'research' yourself first, at least then you have a chance to know the person you are talking about.
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since all energy moves through
one form of channel or another,
and, since all energy
transfers from one form, to another form

then all channels,
have potential
and, within potential exists
duality - good or bad

so NOT all channeling could possibly all be bad

some of it, is actually quite good

i think, everything we eXpress a thought,
or even do a deed - consciously, or unconsciously
we channel it

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there is a good link
above, that you can listen to this book
online - while doing other things

it's quite interesting

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Obviously you do have a problem. Most people do not believe blindly. You say you believed blindly in the Urantia Book, until it dawned on you that maybe it was not what you could put your trust in after all.

You should 'research' yourself first, at least then you have a chance to know the person you are talking about.
Wow, totally out of place ALL of the things you say.

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Old 12-15-2008, 08:01 AM   #22
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More than 1000 human sources the critics say the Urantia book have:

Here are some of them:

Aston, W.G., "Shinto; The Way of the Gods" (New York: Longmans, Green and Co., 1905).
-Documento 131 "Las religiones del mundo" (The World's Religions), sección 7

Bishop, William Samuel, "The Theology of Personality" New York: Longmans, Green and Co., 1926).
-Prólogo, sección XII; Documento 106 "Los niveles de realidad en el Universo" (Universe Levels of Reality), sección 8.

Breasted, James Henry, "The Dawn of Conscience" (New York: Charles Scribners Sons, 1933).
-Documento 95 "Las enseñanzas de Melquisedek en el Levante" (The Melchizedek Teachings in the Levant), secciones 2-5; Documento 111 "El Ajustador y el Alma" (The Adjuster and the Soul), preambulo.

Bundy, Walter E., "The Religion of Jesus" (Indianapolis: The Bobbs Merrill Company, 1928)
-Documento 196 "La Fe de Jesús" (The Faith of Jesus), preambulo, secciones 1-2.

Bundy, Walter E., "The Recovery of Jesus" (Indianapolis: The Bobbs- Merrill Company, 1929).
-Documento 196 "La Fe de Jesús" (The Faith of Jesus), preambulo, secciones 1-2.

Burton, Ernest DeWitt and Mathews, Shailer, "The Life of Christ" (Chicago: University of Chicago Press, 1927).
-Parte IV "La vida y enseñanzas de Jesús"

Carus, Paul, "The Canon of Reason and Virtue: Being Lao-tze's Tao Teh King" (LaSalle, Il: The Open Court Publishing Co., 1927).
-Documento 94 "Las enseñanzas de Melquisedek en el oriente" (The Melchizedek Teachings in the Orient), sección 6; Documento 131 "Las religiones del mundo" (The World's Religions), sección 8.

Cowdry, E.V., (ed), "Human Biology & Racial Welfare" (New York: Paul B. Hoeber, Inc., 1930).
-Documento 51 "Los adanes planetarios" (Planetary Adams), sección 4; Documento 65 "La supervisión de la evolución" (The Overcontrol of Evolution), sección 2; Documento 82 "la evolución del matrimonio" (The Evolution of Marriage), sección 6.

Edwards, Tyron, (compilador), "The New Dictionary of Thoughts" (New York: Classic Publishing Co., 1934).
-Documento 48 "La vida morontial" (The Morontia Life), sección 7.

Fosdick, Harry, "The Hope of the World" (New York: Harper and Brothers, 1933).
-Documento 171 "En el camino de Jerusalén" (On the Way to Jerusalem), sección 7.

Frost Jr., S.E., (ed), "The Sacred Writings of the World's Great Religions" (New York: The New Home Library, 1943).
-Documento 131 "Las religiones del mundo" (The World's Religions)

Hartshorne, Charles, "Man's Vision of God" (Chicago: Willet, Clark and Co., 1941).
-Prologo, sección 1

Hopkins, E. Washburn, "Origin and Evolution of Religion" (New Haven, CT: Yale University Press, 1923).
-Documento 85 "Los orígenes de la adoración" (The Origin of Worship), Completo. Documento 92 "La evolución ulterior de la religión" (The Later Evolution of Religion)

Jones, Rufus M., "A Preface to Christian Faith in a New Age" (New York: Macmillan Co., 1932).
-Documento 195 "Después de Pentecostés" (After Pentecost), secciones 5-10.

Jones, Rufus M., "The Inner Life" (New York: Macmillan Co., 1916).
-Documento 102 "Los cimientos de la fe religiosa" (The Foundations of Religious Faith), preambulo.

Noble, Edmund, "Purposive Evolution: The Link Between Science and Religion" (New York: Henry Hold and Co., 1926).
-Documento 42 "La energía - la mente y la materia" (Energy - Mind and Matter), sección 11; Documento 116 "El todopoderoso supremo" (The Almighty Supreme), sección 7.

Osborn, Henry Fairfield, "Man Rises to Parnassus: Critical Epochs in the Prehistory of Man" (Princeton, NJ: Princeton University Press, 1928).
-Documento 64 "La razas evolucionarias de color" (The Evolutionary Races of Color), secciones 2, 4; Documento 80 "La expansión andita en el occidente" (Andite Expansion in the Occident)

Palmer, George Herbert, "The Autobiography of a Philosopher" (New York: Greenwood Press, 1930, reprint).
-Documento 181 "Las últimas recomendaciones y advertencias" (Final Admonitions and Warnings), sección 1.

Sabatier, Auguste, "Religions of Authority and the Religion of the Spirit" (New York: McClure, Phillips & Co., 1904).
-Documento 155 "La huida por el norte de galilea" (Fleeing Through Northern Galilee), secciones 5,6.

Swann, W.F.G., "The Architecture of the Universe" (New York: The Macmillan Co., 1934).
-Documento 41 "Los aspectos físicos del universo local" (Physical Aspects of the Local Universe); Documento 42 "La energía - la mente y la materia" (Energy - Mind and Matter)



Don't believe blindly in everything!

Research a little first!

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Old 12-16-2008, 06:17 AM   #23
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Default Eugenics in The Urantia Book

If we aspire to have an informed oppinion about something we must know all the aspects of the topic.

Just Quotes from The Book:

Civilization is in danger when youth neglect to interest themselves in ethics, sociology, eugenics, philosophy, the fine arts, religion, and cosmology.
P1220:3, 111:4.4 from The Urantia Book -- Part III. The History Of Urantia PAPER 111: Section 4.The Inner Life



“unrestrained multiplication of inferiors, with decreasing reproduction of superiors, is unfailingly suicidal of cultural civilization”
The Urantia Book -- Part III. The History Of Urantia
PAPER 79: Section 2. The Andite Conquest Of India



“The indigo [Black] race was moving south in Africa, there to begin its slow but long-continued racial deterioration.”
THE URANTIA BOOK PART III - THE HISTORY OF URANTIA
PAPER 78 - THE VIOLET RACE AFTER THE DAYS OF ADAM Page 871



Notwithstanding this obstacle, it seems that you ought to be able to agree upon the biologic disfellowshiping of your more markedly unfit, defective, degenerate, and antisocial stocks. (P.585)



Having failed to achieve race harmonization by the Adamic technique, you must now work out your planetary problem of race improvement by other and largely human methods of adaptation and control. (P.586)



The subnormal man should be kept under society's control; no more should be produced than are required to administer the lower levels of industry, those tasks requiring intelligence above the animal level but making such low-grade demands as to prove veritable slavery and bondage for the higher types of mankind. (P.770)



The survival of large numbers of defectives and degenerates is not because they have any natural right thus to encumber twentieth-century civilization, but simply because the society of the age, the mores, thus decrees. (P.793)



… poverty and dependence can never be eliminated if the defective and degenerate stocks are freely supported and permitted to reproduce without restraint. (P. 803)



the real jeopardy of the human species is to be found in the unrestrained multiplication of the inferior and degenerate strains of the various civilized peoples… (P.920)



false sentiment… has led to the unwise perpetuation of racially degenerate stocks which have tremendously retarded the progress of civilization. (P. 1088)



“The church, because of overmuch false sentiment, has long ministered to the underprivileged and the unfortunate ... leading to the unwise perpetuation of racially degenerate stocks.”



"The selective elimination of inferior human strains will tend to eradicate many mortal inequalities."



"A good environment cannot contribute much toward really overcoming the character handicaps of a base heredity."



"It is neither tenderness nor altruism to bestow futile sympathy upon degenerated human beings, unsalvable, abnormal and inferior mortals."



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See this: Eugenics on Urantia Book and history

Cheers .... mmmm
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Old 12-12-2008, 08:51 PM   #24
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The book was channeled into our existence...and because of that, is tainted...I read it, and found much truth in it, but the over all theme that supports "pre-destination", turned me off... as well as the promotion of Hierarchy... or the "chosen few" ... there are quite a few places where it is off the mark, and finally it jumps the tracks all together.

If I had to say what it was, I would say it is the history of an alternate reality.
Interesting comment, ENdjoy. We got the impression that the book belongs to a parallell Universe!
It does have beautiful sequences, but also quite repulsive segments.

One split came about when a group of the Urantia Brotherhood lived in Paris in the early -80s and one or more members got the prediction that Paris would be hit by a nuclear bomb. They all moved, but no bomb hit. Were they happy? Naah... Unreliable prediction=worse than a bomb. LOL
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Old 10-24-2008, 03:38 AM   #25
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In his book Cosmic Voyage, Courtney Brown claimed to have used remote viewing to validate the existence of one of the ultradimensional species mentioned in the Urantia book, the so-called "Midwayers".

The Midwayers discussion occurs on pages 76-82. Unfortunately I cannot paste that chapter here since the PDF of the book I have is based on a photographic image of the book. But those interested can download the entire text at http://www.courtneybrown.com/publica...rtneyBrown.pdf .

I personally have only skipped around the Urantia book and read, perhaps, 10% of it. The entires seemed of varying quality to me. Then again, at least to my understanding this was authored by a team consisting of many individuals, so that probably makese sense.
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