Tell Me Who I Am

[orthodoxymoron]

It's becoming a pattern with me. I like to watch(or listen to) groupings of longer videos and recordings regarding a particular subject. This thread is regarding who we are...or supposedly are. I'm very confused and conflicted concerning this very basic subject. Here are several videos for your viewing pleasure. Please watch them more than once...if you can. There is so much material to absorb. I'm finding these videos to be quite enlightening and therapeutic...in an upsetting sort of way...if that makes sense. We live in a very strange universe. Nothing is neat and tidy.

1. Angelika Whitecliff http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...28372708503124

2. Lloyd Pye http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...45463618889531

3. Michael Cremo (French introduction and English Lecture): http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...33041198&hl=en

4. A'shayana Deane (Anna Hayes): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nywl-...x=0&playnext=1

5. Ralph Ellis

A. http://www.consciousmedianetwork.com/members/rellis.htm

B. http://www.consciousmedianetwork.com...rs/rellis2.htm

6. Alex Collier http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...95947939806971

7. Jonathan Gray http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9g-T6...ynext=1YouTube - Hidden Discoveries Pt.1

[Orion11]

ohh this is an easy one....

you are the very same as the rest of us.

you ARE us.

[Unified Serenity]

Hi ODM... I am a created being of the Divine One as are you. I am just part of that oneness of creation, and the driving force of it is Divine love. No other path matters. No other existence matters than to walk in love and treat others with love and respect.

Beyond that I do not care what someone's path is, what they do for a living, who they love and marry. I have learned I think my greatest lesson to live in whatever existence I am in divine love and emanating positive life giving love wherever I may be. No matter the circumstances, no one can take that blessing from me, and I look forward to active oneness with all kindred souls.

edit: OK so I totally missed the point of this thread.... lmao (note I think it said something else when i first responded... i am seeing thingssssssssssss)

[orthodoxymoron]

I guess there is security and solace in being part of a group...even a really screwed-up group. We're all in this together...it takes all kinds...and the show must go on.
But why?

How do I know that I'm not an alien or a hybrid? Are we all completely human? Are some of us completely reptilian? Do all of us have reptilian components in our DNA? Were we created? By whom? Anunaki? Draconians? Pleiadians? Orions? Does the Divine One live on Nibiru? Who created them? Did we evolve? Here...or somewhere else? Did human life begin here...or was Earth colonized? How old is my soul(if I have a soul)? Will my soul really exist forever? If not...what's the point? Did I live in Atlantis? Did I live in Lemuria? Am I a good person or a bad person? I keep getting a sinking feeling that I am merely a Base 4 Mutation.
I wanted to be more...a lot more.

A slimy amoeba in the deep blue sea was the great grand-dad of you and me.
Then I was a monkey swinging in a tree.
Now I'm a teacher...I've got my PhD.
See what science has done for me?

[mntruthseeker]

Originally Posted by orion11

ohh this is an easy one....

You are the very same as the rest of us.

You are us.

yes that is who you are you are us

As my good friend says, Lauren Zimmerman.................think of it as all of us in one big balloon. we are all connected and in the same space

[Luminous]

Hi, Ortho, I agree with everyone else that we are all from the same Source, and whatever our circumstances in the physical, our deepest goal is to learn to love each other.

On the other hand, I'm of the opinion that we've been tinkered with on a genetic level by many players.

If I may, I'd like to offer for your reading pleasure a Very Long Thread on the Noble Dreams forum (offspring of the now closed Noble Realms forum, which was the sister to the Montalk website). It is, appropriately, the Bloodline thread, and is, as I said, Very Long, so peruse when you have a couple days.

Here's the link: http://www.nobledreams.co.uk/viewtopic.php?id=73

Lots of interesting food for thought there.

Cheers.

[mudra]

Originally Posted by orthodoxymoron

It's becoming a pattern with me. I like to watch(or listen to) groupings of longer videos and recordings regarding a particular subject. This thread is regarding who we are...or supposedly are. I'm very confused and conflicted concerning this very basic subject. Here are several videos for your viewing pleasure:

1. Angelika Whitecliff http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...08503124&hl=en

2. Lloyd Pye http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...45463618889531

3. A'shayana Deane http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...99163637&hl=en

4. Alex Collier http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...95947939806971

Being is not only beyond but also deep within every form as its innermost invisible and indestructible essence. This means that it is accessible to you now as your own deepest self, your true nature. But don't seek to grasp it with your mind. Don't try to understand it. You can know it only when the mind is still. When you are present, when your attention is fully and intensely in the Now, Being can be felt, but it can never be understood mentally. To regain awareness of Being and to abide in that state of "feeling-realization" is enlightenment.

Be present as the watcher of your mind -- of your thoughts and emotions as well as your reactions in various situations. Be at least as interested in your reactions as in the situation or person that causes you to react. Notice also how often your attention is in the past or future. Don't judge or analyze what you observe. Watch the thought, feel the emotion, observe the reaction. Don't make a personal problem out of them. You will then feel something more powerful than any of those things that you observe: the still, observing presence itself behind the content of your mind, the silent watcher.

Many expressions that are in common usage, and sometimes the structure of language itself, reveal the fact that people don't know who they are. You say: "He lost his life" or "my life," as if life were something that you can possess or lose. The truth is: you don't have a life, you are life. The One Life, the one consciousness that pervades the entire universe and takes temporary form to experience itself as a stone or blade of grass, as an animal, a person, a star or a galaxy.

Can you sense deep within that you already know that? Can you sense that you already are That?

When you lose touch with inner stillness, you lose touch with yourself. When you lose touch with yourself, you lose yourself in the world.

Your innermost sense of self, of who you are, is inseparable from stillness. This is the I Am that is deeper than name and form.

Stillness Speaks - Eckhart Tolle

No one will ever be able to answer that question Orthodoxymoron but you.
This can't be conveyed to you through the field of the mind.

Kindness
Mudra

[orthodoxymoron]

Thank-you mudra...I appreciate your comment. My problem is that my mind is still...too much of the time. I have to work at making my mind work.
I'm looking for truth...not tranquility.

Did my soul exist 1,000,000,000 years ago? Will it exist 1,000,000,000 years from now? If so...will my memories survive? If not...what is the meaning of this?
We're supposed to be divine...so I must be a God with Alzheimers.

[Orion11]

We're supposed to be divine...so I must be a God with Alzheimers.

One of about 6 billion and some.

thankfully the "alzheimers" is starting to lose its potency and is becoming weaker.

some questions , like many you asked above..
just dont have an answer in this time.

focus on things that do have answers and that will create harmony.

not things that only lead to more questions, with nothing but bs answers... because noone has the real answers.

sorry, but if anyone tells you they do,
turn and walk away, because they are not being honest.

peace.

[orthodoxymoron]

Knowing who we are...where we came from...what we are supposed to be doing...and where we are going...may be necessary to get ourselves out of this mess. Someone...or something...seems to be keeping us in the dark...regarding all of the above. Keep asking questions. Keep knocking the damn doors down.

[mudra]

Originally Posted by orthodoxymoron

Knowing who we are...where we came from...what we are supposed to be doing...and where we are going...may be necessary to get ourselves out of this mess. Someone...or something...seems to be keeping us in the dark...regarding all of the above. Keep asking questions. Keep knocking the damn doors down.

Orthodoxymoron,

It's good to ask questions but you need to ask the right ones.
As regard the soul the point is that it's not that you " have " a soul but
rather that the soul is Who You are , it's " Being" rather than "having",
and that " Being " is ever present in the Now and as such is immortal.

In the human complex the soul operates a physical body through the field
of the mind .As a soul you are witness and participant to this in the ever present
Now. You are stillness but everything around you moves through time.

Kindness
mudra

[777 The Great Work]

I am
I = 9=EYE = Back into the womb of the great Mother
Am =14 with no attachments, and trancender of time and space

I Am = 23 master of death and circumstance.

[Orion11]

Originally Posted by mudra

Orthodoxymoron,

It's good to ask questions but you need to ask the right ones.
As regard the soul the point is that it's not that you " have " a soul but
rather that the soul is Who You are , it's " Being" rather than "having",
and that " Being " is ever present in the Now and as such is immortal.

In the human complex the soul operates a physical body through the field
of the mind .As a soul you are witness and participant to this in the ever present
Now. You are stillness but everything around you moves through time.

Kindness
mudra

[orthodoxymoron]

I think that I could watch(listen to) the 5 links in the first post...over and over again. I don't know how much is true...but the possibilities are astronomical. I think that these perspectives are moving us in the right direction. The gods of this world(Draconian and Anunaki?) are not the God of the Universe. Unfortunately...I think that we are dealing with the gods of this world...and that they are not very nice. So...we have a big problem. I'd like to see the gods of this world leave...at least for awhile...and let us sort this thing out for ourselves. We will probably make lots of mistakes...but they will be our mistakes...and we will learn from these mistakes...and become better and better...every day and in every way. At some point...we may be able to interact with our former gods in a constructive manner...when they have matured...and we have matured. This may take thousands of years. These gods have given us much...but they have robbed us of so very much more. I don't hate them...even if they hate us. I don't want them to be hurt or killed. I don't want them to go away mad. I just want them to go away. Sorry Lucifer. Of all the words that tongue can tell...the saddest are 'It might have been.'

[orthodoxymoron]

Has anyone watched or listened to the 5 links in the first post? I maintain that listening to these 5 links as a group...several times...is a constructive spiritual exercise. Again...I can't vouch for the material...but a lot of it seems to be going in the right direction...and may be helpful in recognizing truth and error. There is a progressive spiritual component present in the presentation of the intellectual information. They have filled a spiritual and intellectual void for me. See what you think.

[orthodoxymoron]

I'm starting to get really worried. The numbers of people participating in the forum are not what they should be...given the troubled and confused times we are living in. There is a tremendous amount of new information out there...and the public needs to sort through this material in a calm and rational manner. I like Alex Jones...but that's not my style. I like this forum format...but I am not seeing the type of discussion...both in interest levels and numbers...that I would like to see.

Tell me who I am. But also tell me what is going on in alternative thinking. I know very little about these subjects...which is why I ask a lot of questions.
I'm just seeing a lot of dots not being connected...that need to be connected...to get us out of this mess.

[orthodoxymoron]

This is probably the most fascinating thread I have started so far(less than a dozen, I'm sure). Understanding our real history...going back billions of years perhaps...is probably the key to the present and future. Now I'm talking about the cutting edge history that we were not taught about in school. There is a whole world opening up to our understanding which is changing everything. Tell me what you think about all of this. I added another link(Jonathan Gray) to the first post. Here it is: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9g-T6...ynext=1YouTube - Hidden Discoveries Pt.1

[Lorien]

Originally Posted by orthodoxymoron

Tell me who I am. But also tell me what is going on in alternative thinking. I know very little about these subjects...which is why I ask a lot of questions.
I'm just seeing a lot of dots not being connected...that need to be connected...to get us out of this mess.

Orthodoxy, no one can "tell you who you are". That is something that you must find out for yourself. That is part of spiritual development. If you were handed the answers to everything on a silver platter, you would learn nothing about who you really are.

As far as what's going on in alternative thinking, that is a very open ended question. There are so many people thinking so many different things it's hard to keep track of it all. All of us here have been where you have been, but again there is no way to tell you everything, at least not without writing a 2000 page book. Again this is a journey that you alone must take. We can do what we all do for each other, and that is share links, information, and speculations. I can promise that not a single Alternative Thinker out there is 100% correct about everything. And there are some of them who are 100% wrong about everything. The goal is to come to a conclusion from your heart, as to what you feel is the truth.

Personally, I take in all information that I can, looking at all scenarios and topics from multiple angles. One of the beauties of being human is the fact that we have the ability to reason and use logic to discover that which is hidden. We must use that gift on a daily basis to analyze everything around us.

We are here on this plane of existence to experience the gamut of human emotions so that we may grow as a spiritual being and then return to the collective consciousness and share the human life experience.

[THE eXchanger]

we are all distinct notes in the same song !!!

[orthodoxymoron]

Good to see you posting, Susan! Don't forget about us!

Thank-you for your thoughtful response, Lorien.

Did the God of the Universe create us in a single 24 hour period...6,000 years ago? Did we evolve from lower primates? Did the Anunnaki create us by combining their DNA with hominid DNA...to be good, obedient slaves? Were we created somewhere else...and then seeded here to colonize Earth? Were we chased here in a Star Wars? Did the Anunnaki defeat us...and then genetically modify us...to dumb us down...to make us good, obedient slaves? Are we still good, obedient slaves? Can we be spiritually and genetically modified to regain our former glory? Are we in the middle of a universal Star Wars to decide who gets to be Almighty God and Masters of the Universe? Are we fighting to decide who gets to be the Master Race and God's Chosen People? Are the Reptilians playing 'God'? Why isn't freewill tempered with responsibility? Will all malevolent beings(human and non-human) be exorcised from Earth soon? Is 2012 Judgment Day...to determine who gets to control the stargates? Are we capable of ruling ourselves? Are we better off being ruled by Reptilians? Is Lucifer a Reptilian? Do we really have to play these stupid wargames? Why can't we learn to share and play nice? Can't we just get along? Was that 20 questions?

[Seashore]

I have started thinking of myself as one of numerous species of beings in the universe (multiverse?), all of which share in the same energy. I don't worry about the details. I know I can't figure it out and I'll drive myself crazy trying to...

[orthodoxymoron]

I've been crazy for a long time...so I don't have to worry about going crazy. That frees me up to ask the unanswerable questions...and to expect convincing answers.

[mudra]

Originally Posted by orthodoxymoron

I've been crazy for a long time...so I don't have to worry about going crazy. That frees me up to ask the unanswerable questions...and to expect convincing answers.

Your interest towards humanity's history and origins is interesting and legitimate.
Research it as long as you need as it seems pertinent to you at the moment.
However remember that this is not where you'll find the answer to the question of
" who you really are " . The realm of spirit where you belong as a soul is not subject
to time. Only the human body and mind is subject to time.
You are and will always BE in the now from where you can look and put your attention
to pictures that can be plotted on a linear line.
No matter how convincing the world around you is ..it's illusion ..
The whole challenge is to realize it .

Kindness to you
mudra

[Seashore]

...and to expect convincing answers.

How will you know when you're convinced?

[orthodoxymoron]

When I have considered all of the possibilities...and compared them exhaustively...and received a divine sign. Seriously...we don't know everything about everything. We don't know everything about anything. Everything is related to everything. So...we have to know everything about everything...to know everything about anything. Are you convinced?