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Old 10-24-2009, 10:28 PM   #51
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Tran- I read that (as part of the pdf) however I am still not convinced (I was at first) the more I looked into it (the amateur home videos for example).

What are your thoughts so far (mine are subject to change and right now I think he is an imposter claiming to be Supriem).......I could we wrong.......

If this is true it's very frightening (and SD needs a better wardrobe as well as camera).

One aspect that has not come true is the Allied Unit.If that happens I will start worrying (not really- I have given this all over to love/source energy and I believe in karma and they will reap what they sow).

Edited to say just found this- off to read it- gotta love a lazy Saturday!

http://primarysources.newsvine.com/_...oax?groupId=86

And Makow's take:
http://www.henrymakow.com/playboy_lu...launch_be.html

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Old 10-25-2009, 01:21 AM   #52
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I believe anything but I won't let it ruin my mood. The more you know, the better you're prepared to read the signs inbetween the lines.
I wonder what the '13 Families' think of this. From what I understand, one way or the other, they're gonna lose their power monopoly.
The 'secret' VRIL & THULE Societies are certainly to be taken serious, as history has already teached us. They were behind the rise of Adolf Hitler & during the Nazi period in Germany, from 1933 untill 1945, they were the only Secret Society that was not forbidden & whose members didn't end up in concentration camps.
I think the pdf/book 'Supriem David Rockefeller: Messiah or Anti Christ?' is a 'must read', not in the least because it contains a lot of information, is written by a non religious person, (as contrasted with 'The Dulce Papers' by 'Branton', who is the worst kind of new born Christian) and the book reads like a Dan Brown novel;
Whether it's true or not, we'll soon find out.
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Old 10-25-2009, 01:47 AM   #53
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I know that has been said (they will lose their monopoly) however I don't see it happening......they have infiltrated into every sector of society- they are not just a bunch of European old men (and women I might add) as David Wilcock says.......it would take an act of divine will (which I am rooting for/meditating on/praying for) to bring them down......

Yes, if Wes was indeed communicating with authentic Thule members it's very disturbing however there are some *red flags* as to this SD's behavior.

I can try to get some info through the lines of people (my friends) who are friends with David sr daughter ( I used to live near her and her children went to my children's school- David sr. even came to the school to give a talk) to see if I can gain any information as to the authenticity of this guy.

Her:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eileen_Rockefeller_Growald
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Old 10-25-2009, 03:40 AM   #54
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Supposed modern picture of Maria Orsic? If so for a 70 something year old she looks very well!!!

And if this is her then this story is falling apart at it's seams.....

http://hollowearthexpedition.pbworks.com/Maria-Orsic

Or is this her?
oops- having issues posting it

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Old 10-25-2009, 04:41 AM   #55
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What the age of the woman on the picture (the alleged Maria Orsic) is, remains a mystery. I couldn't find any indication of her age in the article, nor that it was a "supposed modern picture of Maria Orsic." You're just presuming that, eleni. Or did I miss something?
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Old 10-25-2009, 06:03 PM   #56
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Yes, just presuming that- but I did find a small picture when I looked up Maria and it looks very much like an older Maria as opposed to the other picture I linked. I wish I knew how to post it as I've tried.....
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Old 10-26-2009, 12:49 AM   #57
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Hmmm..

These are straight from the book but you know what they say.. a picture is worth 1000 words.


















Im wondering about the strange midnight sighting I had last week of a thick streak of light shooting into and merging with the star Aldebaran (right when I happened to be staring at Aldebaran!!) What is the connection... what do they want with me, just awareness? I can't stand Nazis.. my grandfather was sent to Auswich because he was working for the polish underground resistance. He was the only one from his bus who lived. After the war he married my grandmother a beautiful blonde/blue eyed west german, in an act of forgiveness and unity. So I have both sides of WW2 in my blood.

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Old 10-26-2009, 12:53 AM   #58
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That's a bit frightening Luminari.......

My issues with those pictures are they don't look circa 1940's they look 70's to me(the women). I wonder if it's a Vril publicity stunt?
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Old 10-26-2009, 01:45 AM   #59
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To my knowledge Vril is a Secret Society & usualy secret societies avoid publicity. The women on the picture(s) could be anybody. I think the pictures in the pdf/book 'Messiah or AntiCrist' by Wes Penre., are far more interesting.

What speaks for the author (Wes Penre) is, that you can freely download his book. Also, I can't imagine somebody puts this much work (244 pages) in a 'hoax'.

I don't really know what to think about this whole 'Supriem' thing, but it I do find it quite fascinating.
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Old 10-26-2009, 03:04 AM   #60
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Not saying Wes is a hoax because I found him to be excellent researcher.

I too find it odd that Vril would publish any photos- the Vril *generator* or whatever it is (to amplify blood ) looks phony to me and Wes is just being a reporter - reporting all information which is a good thing.

But I'm still left with the feeling that it's part of a multi pronged scam with numerous players involved.

Have a look at this:


Makes me wonder if the guy has ever been out of Nashville.......I think he's read a lot on conspiracy theory.....hmm....his story covers bloodlines, stargates, Lucifer, Vril, Thule, monoatomic gold, ancient Gods, super soldiers, reanimated people, NWO, etc; etc; I wonder what is next as far as conspiracy tales for this fellow to release (meaning Supriem himself)?

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Old 10-26-2009, 08:29 AM   #61
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oh hah hah hah, " dude " even...wow, I'm more illuminated now.
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Old 10-28-2009, 10:27 PM   #62
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http://ttp://illuminatichronicles.wo...nization-3of3/

Looks like they outed themselves...... I wasn't the only one who noticed cheap clothing, bad camera, the interiors, etc;

As they say beware of false prophets......now in 2009 that statement takes on a whole new level.....

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Old 10-28-2009, 10:41 PM   #63
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That's a bit frightening Luminari.......

My issues with those pictures are they don't look circa 1940's they look 70's to me(the women). I wonder if it's a Vril publicity stunt?
That one with the lady and the fly saucer looks REALLY photoshopped...
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Old 11-05-2009, 07:02 PM   #64
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Has anybody but Linda, Eleni & me finished reading this pdf already?
By the way, believe it or not, it reads like a Dan Brown novel!
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Old 11-07-2009, 06:05 AM   #65
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Hi Trancosco.

I downloaded it too but only skim read it. And thought that it was interesting enough to share and was surprised in all my NWO/Illuminati research i hadn't come across this twerp b4!
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Old 11-07-2009, 04:54 PM   #66
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It is my opinion that the second coming of Christ will manifest as Christ consciousness (love and light), and the anti-Christ can be anyone or anything that is opposed to that.
Ya I think the anti-christ isnt a person but an energy, the ant-christos energy.
And the second coming of christ or of any prophet is really the return of the golden age.
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Old 11-08-2009, 05:53 AM   #67
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I downloaded it too but only skim read it... ...and was surprised in all my NWO/Illuminati research i hadn't come across this twerp b4!

So was I, Barron, that's why I was very sceptical about the story. But while I was reading the book/pdf, it came to my mind that Wes Penre, the writer of the book, wouldn't have put so much effort in writing this, unless he thought it was a 'hot' topic & important that as many people as possible should have access to it.

Most of the info about the Thule/VRIL stuff is, as far as I know, correct. As a matter of fact, I didn't find any 'flaws' in his story. It's a well written, well documented book. And it's for free!

So if people like you & me never came across Supriem David Rockefeller's name, let alone the less informed on this topic. Therefore the argument it's a hoax or disinfo, which of course also came to my mind, just doesn't make sense.

Again, I don't know what to think of it, but it sure woke me up.
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Old 11-08-2009, 10:48 PM   #68
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I don't think Wes's research is a hoax- I think Supriem is- I am perplexed as to why people are taking this guy seriously.......
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Old 11-09-2009, 06:29 AM   #69
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Check out the Endnote of Chapter 2 from Messiah or Anti-Christ link that started this thread. Footnote 2 which reads:

"[2] If you follow this link it will take you to a very disturbing website, supposedly written by an alien being from the star system Antares. If this information is correct, we certainly are in trouble, and I can see what Supriem is talking about when he says he needs to “prove himself” to save mankind, or we are toast, literally, or someone’s dinner… "

here's the link to the home page:
http://www.betweendeath.com/?p=1#comment-132

Here's a cut n paste taken from the Q & A, as it has to do with this Supriem Rockefeller.

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Hi, Lucy! I’m reading your website with great interest. I have some questions, if you don’t mind. As you know, there are many similar topics on the Internet such as where we came from, who made humans, etc. What do you think of the Annuanki? Have you heard about a man named Supriem Rockefeller who claims to be Lucifer redeemed? If so, what are your thoughts on him? Finally, what are your thoughts on Scientology? I’m very curious to hear what you have to say about these subjects. Thanks so much for your time and for creating this website!


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Dear Joanne,

I am delighted to answer your questions one by one.

WE collectively created the genetic blueprint including the biomarkers and timelines for the evolutionary track from single-celled organisms such as the amoeba to the point that human beings on earth have evolved into to date. Each planetary system has been fashioned slightly differently in order to render the most suitable adaption to surviving life in that particular environment. The ratio of water to oxygen was the factor propelling development of life on earth. Evolution PROVES that WE created this environment. God never would have built a world where every time you humans have to eat, some plant or animal has to die. I say “we” created it because the plan to design the physical universe originated long before it ever existed and those who recycle here through human rebirthing have become trapped by their very creation.

The “Annunaki” is a religious myth. God never created “perfect angels”, “imperfect angels” or any spiritual entity in a hierarchy. WE all separated from Infinity with the identical blueprint of equality known as free will. We attempted to “out-god God” by creating worlds which included arbitrary paradoxes such as matter and time. Matter can never be created or destroyed, just transformed; but that does not prevent the infusion of energy within it (genetic life) from dying. Forever exists without time, so we killed it by creating a time stream. There has never been “hybridization” between spiritual lifeforms and physical lifeforms as the false theory of the Annunaki promotes. Even when we Antareans improved the DNA on your planet, it was one more advanced form of physical life (telepathic) infusing “better DNA” into the lesser forms (the verbals or humans).

The Wes Penre “Supriem Rockerfeller” nonsense is nothing more than a pretentious protest against “globalism” and the “new world order”. I have repeated ad infinitum that “Lucifer” is a figment of human imagination in the most self-destructive sense. The idea of a “devil” is a control mechanism that has been used by organized religion for the last 6,000 years. It amuses us Antareans that prior to that time, no such fictional character existed. There is no human “messiah”, and never has been, although Menachem Mendel Schneerson (1902-1994) was both telepathic and clairvoyant and was the closest human to taking on the role of one in human form, much to his credit.

The only one who can prevent you from being part of the harvest is YOU.

L. Ron Hubbard learned a great deal about life from an Antarean woman named Scarabine who was with us on the ship and landed with us in Roswell, New Mexico. She lived in Los Angeles and Mr. Hubbard befriended her in 1948; having met her through a woman named Sarah Northrup who Mr. Hubbard later married.

Mr. Hubbard learned a great deal about telepathy and moving out of the body, and there is a lot of useful and very practical Antarean knowledge within his writings which he repackaged as a religion known as Scientology which was first known as a science of the mind called Dianetics. Mr. Hubbard fully understood that the soul or spiritual entity operates the genetic body. He easily grasped Antarean wisdom.

What we objected to was the fact that Mr. Hubbard later began to charge exhoritant fees for the information, since truth should be provided freely as I have done on this web site. Mr. Hubbard also created a false mythology and interwove it into his science fiction writings which preyed upon human fears and weaknesses. That being said, Scientology nevertheless does offer extremely valid courses (at outrageous prices) on the art and science of leaving the body (exteriorization), but has failed to promote a global telepathic consciousness for all humanity (as he originally promised Scarabine he would do). Much of the efforts of Scientology since the death of Mr. Hubbard has been dedicated to preventing the technology of leaving the body from being duplicated through a paramilitary legal quagmire of copyright litigation. The proper action would have been to enable all of humanity to reach higher states of awareness; not only the select few who are financially able to pay for it or those recruited employees who are willing to sacrifice their personal freedom to learn it.

Scientology does not refer to God directly, but instead calls God “the eighth dynamic”, or the urge to survive as Infinity. It contains a great deal of truth but is only one slice of a highly hidden pie. Ironically, it would take a speed reader five to seven years to synthesize and extract the information provided on this web site if one had to plough through all of the prolific writings of Mr. Hubbard. But to their credit, I know of no other resource on earth which is better equipped to teach a non-telepathic human how to move outside the genetic vessel than the courses offered by Scientology, although the cost for the information is rather excessive.

Thank you, Joanne, for your kind comments and clarity of heart in your quest for knowledge. You are a thoughtful person and I like you.

Lucy

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Excuse me if I've over pasted text... you guys really ought to check out this website, it has some really great humor as well as alot of information from this ET/alien Antarean named Lucy ... may have to start a new thread. There is a whole new explanation of the Harvest... I find it quite riveting!
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Lucy has some words about Hidden Hand as well as this Wes Penre:

"Hidden Hand is another identity/personality used by Wes Penre. If you carefully compare the writings of “Supriem Rockeffeler” with “Hidden Hand”, you will see they have been written by the same person, Mr. Wes Penre. It is another explanation of globalism interwoven with random prophecy not based upon anything tangible. He has nothing to do with us in any way, shape or form. His ramblings about “Lucifer” and the wrong-date Mayan Calendar and the sub-gods who created the earth demonstrate that. WE created the physical universe. Infinity (God) did NOT. All of the traps of human consciousness have been planted as bad seeds by humans themselves.

Someone should tell Mr. Wes Penre that San Francisco will be quite livable throughout 2010 (despite the ridiculous prophecy of Mr. Hand that it will be uninhabitable). I own a lovely home in Seacliff (that I do not visit nearly enough) which I have no intention of selling because of any of this nonsense. Actor Robin Williams has been one of my fondest neighbors for years."

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Old 01-08-2010, 06:55 PM   #71
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Looks like Michael Noel Prescott is becoming more active this year. He has uploaded three Youtube videos: http://www.youtube.com/user/TheThirdProphet
Apparently, he is speaking for the Thule Society and they are working very hard to make the prophecies come true. It is almost comical that their "prophecies" are not self-fulfilling, but require "hard work" to come true. Wonder who the first two prophets were.
He wants people to give up their free will.

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Old 01-08-2010, 07:24 PM   #72
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This is a perfect example of what I have come to think of as a "faux-reality show."
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Old 01-08-2010, 08:10 PM   #73
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Charlatans......through and through........no different from the idiots in power but Supriem et al is plain comical......
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Old 01-12-2010, 11:56 PM   #74
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Supposed modern picture of Maria Orsic? If so for a 70 something year old she looks very well!!!

And if this is her then this story is falling apart at it's seams.....

http://hollowearthexpedition.pbworks.com/Maria-Orsic

Or is this her?
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Hello from Astra!
I checked the link you provided ... that is NOT a picture of Maria Orsic! I am pretty much sure it is a picture of actress CLAUDIA BLACK! Please, check for yourself!
http://www.actressarchives.com/display.php?img=42676

in Love and Light

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Old 02-02-2010, 02:15 AM   #75
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Freeman talked about this today on Dr Deagle's radio show. Freeman's blog has a section called "Space War News" that has a link under it entitled "Lucifer to Rebuild Temple in Jerusalem." The link is to the URL for CNNMoney.com and an article entitled "Kinti Mining Lmtd.'s (KMLD) Announces Supriem David Rockefeller and the Rebuilding of the 3rd Jewish Temple in Addition to Frank Love Commencing the 'Temple Now Project.'"

Freeman and Dr Deagle talked about a lot of things including Aden, Yemen being the actual Garden of Eden. This was during the 3rd Hour on February 1, 2010:

http://www.gcnlive.com/archive.php?program=nutrimedical
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