Deadly, unusual wildfires in California as well as worldwide

[Eric J (Viking)]

Not sure this has been posted but the more I see of this the weirder it seems... Houses burnt to the ground but trees still standing.

Video here... Worth watching.
http://www.travelweekly.com/Travel-News/Hotel-News/Drone-footage-shows-fire-destruction-of-Santa-Rosa-hotels

The Hilton Sonoma Wine Country had extensive fire damage and is closed indefinitely," the hotel wrote in an Oct. 10 post on its Facebook page. "As of this evening, our staff has not been permitted to return to the property."
Adjacent to that 13-acre property, the Fountaingrove Inn "fell victim to the devastating fire in Sonoma County, and guests were subsequently evacuated," wrote Justin Hayman, the hotel's general manager, on its website last week. "At this time, we are unable to conduct business in any capacity."
Less than a mile away and just on the other side of Highway 101, the Best Western Plus Wine Country Inn & Suites was also shut down.
"The hotel has suffered some damage but very minimal especially considering what our neighbors have endured," the hotel wrote in an Oct. 11 Facebook post. "As of right now, the hotel is obviously not open for guests. We are working on getting the hotel operational again as soon as possible. We will let you all know when we are open again."
Other hotels in California's wine country closed because of loss of power or bad air quality from the smoke.

More here... Surreal
http://uk.businessinsider.com/santa-rosa-fire-california-video-photo-usps-mail-2017-10?r=US&IR=T

Viking

[Noelle]

Project Camelot shared this video yesterday on Facebook. About 20 mins. long, it talks about the strangeness of how things are burning.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q2q7nN0JYWE

[norman]

Bernie Krause, a well known and respected nature sound recordist and his wife lost their home and 2 cats and all belongings in Sonoma County a few days ago.

As I understand the situation, the locals think it was the high winds that brought down trees on electricity cables that got it started. The Fire chiefs say it's a once in 2 careers fire they've never seen the like of before, massive.

[KiwiElf]

Are you thinking what I'm thinking LadyM?:idea::laser:

[Foxie Loxie]

Thanks for posting, LadyM.....most of us wouldn't have realized otherwise. It's beginning to look like CA is not a good state to be living in right now. :facepalm:

[Inversion]

This is a map of the active fires in California as of yesterday. I was listening to Jeff Rense this morning and he said there are 600 people missing.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/tech/science/2017/10/12/california-fires-map-how-deadly-wildfires-spreading/759038001/
https://www.gannett-cdn.com/media/2017/10/12/USATODAY/USATODAY/636434337701711556-101217-CA-fires-online.png

[Noelle]

Are you thinking what I'm thinking LadyM?:idea::laser:

How could I not? ;) Patrick Roddie (Stop Spraying Us) has posted some interesting stuff on his FB page (https://www.facebook.com/PatrickRoddie?hc_ref=ARSf0E7LAHRmQhNo8UuX0w2skD4F2EN6-lUm22T63wi0LyuLPcnTo_vrbN9F4FErTAI&fref=nf) about the fires, including the image below, from Oct. 11. His posts say it's more than wood smoke.

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[craig mitchell]

I live, and have lived for 40 years, ten minutes drive from these fires and am not sure that the thread title is helpful. S.R. did not burn to the ground. Is it a BIG EVENT? Yes, and tragic in the way words cannot describe. We know (so far) four couples who were burned out and escaped in the middle of the night with the clothes on their backs. Also, having listened to the video posted, I am not sure it is a valid conjecture that other than normal circumstances were present. There are 3 factors in evaluating fire danger, fire load (stuff on the property that can burn) humidity, and wind, and all were present at the highest levels. I have fought fire in these conditions and even with considerable local knowledge it's hardly possible to understand the power of destruction when winds blow strongly and gust from 50 to 70 mph. Next time you are cruising down the freeway at 70 mph, stick your head out the window and imagine you are fire and wind....what will stand before you? Nothing can stand before that force and temperatures when they achieve blast furnace conditions. Fires like these take on an aliveness akin to a an elemental entity that rage as a wild beast. I don't wish to dramatize and it's certainly not necessary.

However, I am very aware of Dr. Judy Wood and many good researchers, the Chemtrail spraying, the Harp machinations and current level of dark distortions going on. The four Elements are earth forces that have no negative agenda, but can be twisted by negative rituals which i am sure were enacted in this tragedy.
There are those who are helping to hold the line with these elemental winds. The angelics are not allowed to stop the humans from their free will but are constantly guiding us into positive expression. Stay strong, hold love in your hearts.......that's the most powerful force in the universe.

[ErtheVessel]

I live about 50 miles from the areas that are burning and just wanted to offer my observations.

I am not convinced the fires were anything other than "natural" in terms of heat intensity. I am not a fire expert, but I know that fires burn quite a bit hotter when they have lots of oxygen to feed them. I'm not completely sure of the day, but I believe it was last Saturday evening (Oct. 7), when we had extremely and unusually high winds in the entire Bay Area, from San Francisco to Santa Rosa (north) to areas south of San Francisco and also east. A very large area. Two different people I spoke to the following Monday commented on how they had thought the roof might fly off the house, or they might find themselves flying off to Oz like Dorothy. Those kinds of winds are not very common around here, but are a natural part of the ecology and are called "Diablo Winds," similar to the Santa Ana winds in Southern California. Wildfire is also part of the ecology in California. (Even before massive human settlement in California, there have been wildfires here.)

What I know, from the little bit of news I have heard or read, is that this situation was particularly difficult for several reasons: 1) super high winds made planes unable to fly low to drop water or fire retardant, so the fires spread unchecked for a while, 2) those high winds create a tremendous amount of oxygen for the fire to burn hotter, which can cause what is called a firestorm, where the fire itself creates its own wind and increases the intensity of the heat of the fire even more. 3) the fires broke out in several different places more or less simultaneously, and firefighters focused their initial efforts on rescuing people from burning structures rather than trying to actually put out the fires. Perhaps the longer they burn unchecked, the hotter they get. 4) firefighters who work with wildfires are trained differently than firefighters who are trained to put out structural fires. These fires included both massive wildfire damage as well as structural damage. Since these are different areas of expertise maybe this was a factor in various instances? I'm guessing here. 5) The pool of firefighters is limited, whether for structural of wildfire. I heard on the radio today someone say that some firefighters have been working for 60 hours straight and some are finally taking a break.

As far as air quality, it has been pretty bad at times, even 50 miles away, but it doesn't smell like anything other than wood smoke. I went out one morning (I think it was Sunday) and the air was so bad, it was just like walking into a room where someone had lit a fire in the fireplace and forgotten to open the flue. In the evening when the sun sets, the sky and all the light is sometimes a very deep orange, sometimes only a little yellowish, depending on the direction the wind is blowing. I have lived in the Bay Area for more than 50 years and I have never experienced this kind of effect from fires at such a distance.

The point of my post, though I have been rambling a bit, is to say that I don't necessarily think the fires themselves were technologically set, other than maybe by downed power lines. And I think it may be possible for wildfires to burn that hot naturally, given the optimal circumstances. It would be interesting to hear from someone trained in real fire science. I have a niece who dated a fireman for a while and fire science is absolutely fascinating. Apparently many firemen experience and deal with fire as if it is a living being. They are dealing with not just the science of fire, but its spirit as well. Not something you read about in the MSM!

What is interesting to me is the multiplicity of fires happening all at the same time, which exhausts all firefighting defensive capabilities quite quickly. Is there something nefarious here, or was that just a fluke of nature?

And, as always, follow the money. These fires may have a huge impact on the economy of the state including the wine industry, the homeowner's insurance industry, etc. Is there someone who benefits from this economic devastation?

[waves]

I'm very nearby too and am not forming any nefarious conjectures about anything yet. This is a 3 and nearly 4 county collection of various fires with numerous pockets joining together and hardly contained at all still. The Sonoma census states 183,000 housing units, 48,000 in Napa, and so far 5,700 structures have burned down in both Napa and Sonoma (mostly homes), not just Santa Rosa and hardly all of it (please change the totally misleading title of this thread).

I will only say that so far it appears to me that the Sunday night 40-60mph winds were grossly underestimated, the fire not attacked vigorously enough where it started and it quickly way outflanked their ability to stay organized. The only really inept thing to me so far is whoever decided not to send cell phone alarms out "to not panic people and keep streets clear for firemen" causing 1000's to literally barely escape at 3am in their pajamas.

I am, however, really rethinking all the various 'we create our own reality' philosophies from purely esoteric to the very convincing Tom Campbell physics of it. Problem is, if you buy any of them you have to account for 'reality creation' like this of 5,000 completely different entire families all deciding at the exact same moment to burn everything they own at 3am and completely shatter their lives. This goes for any shared disaster. It unfortunately lends more weight to the 'ai and video controllers' philosophies, right? or what?

Everyone here now with loss or not has a changed world for life in many ways that will prompt much new give and take, many new interactions, friends and love, and countless things of every kind that would not have happened otherwise. For now though there's lots of people in totally disoriented hell and discomfort and my heart goes out to them all with wishes for a speedy journey to their next more settled reality.

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[fourty-two]

I concur with ErtheVessel commentary on the fires here in Santa Rosa. 2800 family homes within the city limits have burned to the ground leaving little residue except for the occasional fireplace left standing. I made the mistake of going out to the grocery store in the smoke haze and it made me vomit and feel poorly until breathing filtered air conditioned air for 30 minutes whilst in the grocery store. I shall not venture out again and tell everyone to stay inside the building.
Its now Friday night and the city is still in heavy smoke. More high wind gusts are forecast for tonight. So keep good thoughts for everyone in the Bay Area. Thanks!

[Noelle]

Roddie at Stop Spraying Us, I believe, spotted EMF in the satellite imagery. Though I can't find it now, someone commented on Roddie's FB page about aerosol plumes containing some chemical that makes the air more dry, more conducive to fires.

Yesterday, GeoEngineeringWatch published a video about the fires, which I plan to watch tonight. It's about 11 mins. long.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oNB4-73ofDw


I am, however, really rethinking all the various 'we create our own reality' philosophies from purely esoteric to the very convincing Tom Campbell physics of it. Problem is, if you buy any of them you have to account for 'reality creation' like this of 5,000 completely different entire families all deciding at the exact same moment to burn everything they own at 3am and completely shatter their lives. This goes for any shared disaster. It unfortunately lends more weight to the 'ai and video controllers' philosophies, right? or what?

I understand your confusion on what part we play in creating/co-creating this reality, especially disasters like hurricanes and fire storms. I am there too. I think Campbell might be onto something when he theorizes that we co-create via our collective focused intent. With disasters, because we can watch them unfold live on TV or from our Internet devices, maybe we need to be more "mindful" of how we focus on them. If the majority of the collective is focusing on a disaster with expectation, fear, and anxiety, well it could be that majority just stabilized the probability of the disaster striking. And yes, I have also thought about how disasters like these could be part of a program (i.e., AI, cosmic quantum computer, etc.), though perhaps the program requires our consciousness to run and whatever created the program designed it in such way to trick us at every turn.

[we-R-one]

I'm so sad to see this happening...I'm in Scotland right now, so information is quite limited compared to the states. After I graduated from high school my family moved to Napa as that's where my father always wanted to retire. He has since passed away but my mother still resides in their home. Due to the smoke, she headed south a few hours away to stay with another family member.

I was just there in early September to show my in-laws the beautiful wine country. So glad they got to see it all before everything burned. We went around the whole region, Napa, Sonoma, and Calistoga.....I cannot believe the entire town of Calistoga has been evacuated. High winds are not the norm in this area, so with this kind of component, you quickly understand how embers jump from house to house and how people were caught off guard. I will try and post my pics so u can see the lay of the land, but won't have time for several hours. I'm on a tablet which might make it difficult, so if that's the case, I'll do it when I get home.

[Limor Wolf]

Project Camelot shared this video yesterday on Facebook. About 20 mins. long, it talks about the strangeness of how things are burning.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q2q7nN0JYWE

Notice to agents and principles:


Let it be known, we, Planet Earth citizens and sovereigns beings on behalf of humanity declare that we are the ones responsible for our own reality, waking up from a long coerced slumber, and DO NOT CONSENT for any Amnesia, Structures of interference, constructs of virtual deceptions that are being overlayed within programmed scenarios, WE DO NOT CONSENT for people, 'time', weather, frequencies and reality being scripted and operated like a video game over the ORIGINAL no script conscious CREATION of neutral and natural movement, by any force, energy, being, deity, simulation machine, virus, Artificial intelligence, any type of form, structure, energy whatsoever, whensoever or wheresoever. This IS Universal Law, This IS the LAW and this IS our LAW within all simulation game

'What will turn it on, will turn it off' 'what will turn it on, will turn it off', 'what will turn it on, will turn it off'
In all that is simulation. And so it IS


What would it take for Fire to turn to the Water, for Earth to turn to the Air
For nature elements to combine their fair share..
and drop all bit
from falsehood script
To rise to their natural care?

The California Script -

'What will turn it on, will turn it off'

For all of eternity. And so it is ~

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Limor

[we-R-one]

Well I had hoped to post more photos but they're too large for Avalon's system and I don't know how to minimize from my tablet so I can upload. I did manage to get one photo from my collection...it's the backside of Mondavi Vineyard. The winery lies on the west side of Hwy 29 which pretty much runs North/South. Sonoma lies on the backside of that range. Not sure yet, but the Sonoma fire may very well have come over the top of that ridge. So imagine as your driving on Hwy 29 you have wineries for miles on the left side and wineries on the right side of the valley floor. The left side is flanked with the mountain range you see in the photo. On the right side, looking East, you'll see a similar range off in the distance which is where the Atlas Peak fire can be found. If you keep heading North on Hwy 29, you'll run into the town of Calistoga and if I understand correctly the fire is coming from the North, so it's behind the city.

[RunningDeer]

Well I had hoped to post more photos but they're too large for Avalon's system and I don't know how to minimize from my tablet so I can upload. I did manage to get one photo from my collection...it's the backside of Mondavi Vineyard. The winery lies on the west side of Hwy 29 which pretty much runs North/South. Sonoma lies on the backside of that range.

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[Foxie Loxie]

After watching Dutchsinse today it would seem the ionespheric heaters around the globe might have something to do with the weirdness of the fires that have been happening worldwide. The odd "spiral" coming from Antartica is something we don't understand either. Do any of our scientific buddies have a clue about that? :confused:

[Sequoia]

I love Northern Cali so, this is in no way to sound flippant about a serious thing like this, just my weird thoughts after I first saw the unnaturally horrific before-and-after-images of the damage by the fire, I was absolutely stunned, and could only think to myself: Never get 'anything', for your house that says ''fire retardant''.

PS. I really appreciate everyone who has shared their own first-hand observations of what is really going on locally over there! So much more interesting than propaganda/news. Thank you! Keep us informed and stay safe

[Ba-ba-Ra]

Excerpts from Joseph Farrell: THE CALIFORNIA FIRES AND THE POWER GRID & Trees Burning From the Inside Out.


Weather weapons work by using multiple transmitters to create a collision zone where differently phased EM waves cancel each other out, and drop their electrical potential into the air (which is a semiconductor) where they cancel. This is the equivalent of biasing a transistor. Semiconductors won't simply break down and start conducting just because a bias field is applied, in order for them to conduct in a controlled fashion they need a doping agent. In silicon the doping agents are arsenic and boron. In air, the doping agent is most likely whatever is in the chem trails. The ionosphere is the power supply, and earth is "ground". Everything in between the ionosphere and the ground will heat up.

If enough voltage is applied to a semiconductor, it will suddenly discharge it in one big burst. This is seen in the air as lightning. The weather/geoengineering systems try to avoid this. But this time around, in California, the effects of excess voltage were readily observed by MANY MANY people, and it manifested itself in more than one way.

the effects of the system in use were easily observed.

1. Some people got heart palpitations from having their bodies charged.

2. MANY MANY people saw electrical flashes that made no thunder in perfectly clear blue sky, and worse, some people even saw small blue sparks everywhere in the air around them.

3. MOST DAMNING: People are reporting that their electronics malfunctioned before the fires hit, with the most pronounced and spoken about malfunction being at a hotel (The silverado resort and spa), where ALL of the electrical systems in the hotel malfunctioned, including the electronic access doors, forcing people to jump from windows (because they could not leave their rooms) to escape an approaching fire that instantly appeared out of nowhere in perfect weather.

It is very important to make note of the malfunctioning doors, because a simple power outage will not stop those from working. Something jammed the circuits in the doors. Simultaneously the hotel lost main power, generator backup, UPS backup, and local battery backup. Not even the always operational emergency hall lights worked. . That would be totally consistent with a massively potent EM weapon causing complete electronic malfunction because not even the circuits in the emergency backup lighting that turn it on (which operate independent of everything off of a small battery right in the light itself), not even circuits at that small level worked.

Complete article: https://gizadeathstar.com/2017/10/strange-things-california-fires/

[Michelle Marie]

Thank you Ba-ba-ra. When I read the high wind theories, it didn't make sense about the trees not burning. With high winds, they would be MORE likely to catch on fire.

Something is definitely NOT normal here.

Not all the anomalies can be passed off by high winds.

Also, one more thing about perspective:
While people are in different locations, even observing one central spot from different viewpoints, there are different visual and sensory perceptions. Again, in different locations, different conditions are evident. So one reporting from their location, or viewpoint, cannot consider the data collected by another.

The eye witness data needs to be combined; not discredited or explained away if coming from a different perspective. ALL perspectives need to be taken into account-not just one individual perspective.

Listening to and heeding warnings would be advisable. Deeper study and asking these questions is imperative to the awareness that is growing.

I'm more alert now because of the information shared here.

Thank you so much,
MM

[waves]

I'm sorry I didn't watch the videos 'Santa Rosa and Northern CA fires DEFY THE LAWS OF PHYSICS' by inTruthbyGrace and 'Geoengineering is Fueling Firestorm Catastrophes' by Dane Wigington posted by Lady M above before my first post. I wouldn't have said I didn't find anything nefarious yet.

I request this thread be retitled to something like 'Whole Santa Rosa Neighborhood Dustified at 3am 10-09-17'.

There are big questions and reports are only beginning. Here's one for a good perspective of the Coffey neighborhood dustification. It's hard to ignore the similarities to 9-11 factors.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yRmwz32uot0

added: another drone flyover different day, different perspective


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GYWUU0P4A5o

[Noelle]

Excerpts from Joseph Farrell: THE CALIFORNIA FIRES AND THE POWER GRID & Trees Burning From the Inside Out.


Weather weapons work by using multiple transmitters to create a collision zone where differently phased EM waves cancel each other out, and drop their electrical potential into the air (which is a semiconductor) where they cancel. This is the equivalent of biasing a transistor. Semiconductors won't simply break down and start conducting just because a bias field is applied, in order for them to conduct in a controlled fashion they need a doping agent. In silicon the doping agents are arsenic and boron. In air, the doping agent is most likely whatever is in the chem trails. The ionosphere is the power supply, and earth is "ground". Everything in between the ionosphere and the ground will heat up.

If enough voltage is applied to a semiconductor, it will suddenly discharge it in one big burst. This is seen in the air as lightning. The weather/geoengineering systems try to avoid this. But this time around, in California, the effects of excess voltage were readily observed by MANY MANY people, and it manifested itself in more than one way.

the effects of the system in use were easily observed.

1. Some people got heart palpitations from having their bodies charged.

2. MANY MANY people saw electrical flashes that made no thunder in perfectly clear blue sky, and worse, some people even saw small blue sparks everywhere in the air around them.

3. MOST DAMNING: People are reporting that their electronics malfunctioned before the fires hit, with the most pronounced and spoken about malfunction being at a hotel (The silverado resort and spa), where ALL of the electrical systems in the hotel malfunctioned, including the electronic access doors, forcing people to jump from windows (because they could not leave their rooms) to escape an approaching fire that instantly appeared out of nowhere in perfect weather.

It is very important to make note of the malfunctioning doors, because a simple power outage will not stop those from working. Something jammed the circuits in the doors. Simultaneously the hotel lost main power, generator backup, UPS backup, and local battery backup. Not even the always operational emergency hall lights worked. . That would be totally consistent with a massively potent EM weapon causing complete electronic malfunction because not even the circuits in the emergency backup lighting that turn it on (which operate independent of everything off of a small battery right in the light itself), not even circuits at that small level worked.

Complete article: https://gizadeathstar.com/2017/10/strange-things-california-fires/

Thanks for this post. What you said about "effects of excess voltage": In the days following Hurricane Irma striking Florida, I began feeling pin-prick-like electrical shocks in different parts of my body, including the heart area, arms, and abdomen. I thought it was from being so hot (we lost power the night Irma hit). I had never felt anything like it before. But I felt them every day--maybe not every hour of the day though close--for more than a week. Could this be a sign of excess voltage?

[waves]

How do trees burn from the inside? One possibility is that they've absorbed all the metal particulate of the chemtrail spraying and are acting like antennae for ambient electrical and microwave energy...

Sorry for a CNN link, can't find a YT copy.

Tree burning from the inside out spotted by citizen Matthew McDermott in Sonoma County escaping the fire.


http://www.cnn.com/videos/us/2017/10/13/hollow-tree-fire-california-orig-trnd-lab.cnn

ADDED: I found someone who took notice and posted one on YT

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iL5E3C3ocdc

[sigma6]

Same thing as happened on 9/11, certain plants and trees intact in the background but metal objects completely destroyed, aluminum rims melted to liquid, glass windows completely gone (melted?) twisted metal... this is no ordinary fire apparently... other strange oddities with how there was no wind, nothing in sight, then 5 min later, entire area in flames... I even read a mainstream article... where couple jumped into swimming pool claiming nothing, then fire engulfed entire property in 30 seconds... ?

https://vimeo.com/238069175

[we-R-one]

Well I had hoped to post more photos but they're too large for Avalon's system and I don't know how to minimize from my tablet so I can upload. I did manage to get one photo from my collection...it's the backside of Mondavi Vineyard. The winery lies on the west side of Hwy 29 which pretty much runs North/South. Sonoma lies on the backside of that range. Not sure yet, but the Sonoma fire may very well have come over the top of that ridge. So imagine as your driving on Hwy 29 you have wineries for miles on the left side and wineries on the right side of the valley floor. The left side is flanked with the mountain range you see in the photo. On the right side, looking East, you'll see a similar range off in the distance which is where the Atlas Peak fire can be found. If you keep heading North on Hwy 29, you'll run into the town of Calistoga and if I understand correctly the fire is coming from the North, so it's behind the city.

This map should help with my directions. Hwy 29, 12, and 128 are some of the main thoroughfares of wine country. I can see the fires aren't too far from my mother's house as she lives close to Dry Creek Rd...in fact, it looks like they closed her road down. Look for 128 which is towards the right of Hwy 29, that's Silverado Trail where some of the wineries burnt down. If you can't see the map clearly go to this link and you can download pdf.

http://napavalleyregister.com/news/local/napa-county-fire-map-updated-oct-and-real-time-map/article_6ac1d796-af81-11e7-8d71-73593e3fad8f.html


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[ErtheVessel]

An update as far as conditions 50 miles away from the fires - the air is finally almost clear today here. It is possible to go outside and breathe freely. I drove over the hills from where I live earlier today and I could actually see San Francisco from the top of the hill. The past few days the view has been completely obscured by amazingly dense smoke. I don't listen to the news much, but there must be some containment of the fires happening, at least for now. The winds are picking up again a bit, though.

Where I live, there seems to be a pervasive sense of relief in all the people I encounter. Perhaps it is just because the air is more breathable. My heart goes out to all those who have been affected by the fires. I know they won't be feeling much relief for a long time. But it is interesting how something like this affects the psyche of everyone and underlines the connection we have on some deep level of commonality.

In terms of what we create or co-create in our reality, I was reading just yesterday someone who said that our attention creates momentum and momentum is what moves potentiality into reality. (I'm paraphrasing a bit.) This was a slightly new way of looking at the issue that felt useful to me.

[we-R-one]

Thanks Paula for the picture resizing links, that helped tremendously on this tablet! So here's what I've got....

Let's see if I can get this right, the first picture is Domaine Carneros which is right off of Hwy 12 on your way to Sonoma. I'm pretty sure they closed down due to the fires/smoke.There's a fire burning not too far right behind it. The second picture is looking East, same location, and you can see the road which is Hwy12 going back towards Napa and Hwy 29. The mountain range in the back ground is approximately where the Atlas fire is burning off of Silverado Trail. The 3rd picture is a 10 yr old winery, called Castello di Amorosa, and if I remember right, the back drop will likely have the Tubbs fire behind it. Lastly, the final picture is driving up to Shafer Vineyards whose backdrop is relatively close to the Atlas fire off of 128. Hopefully this gives us an idea of the terrain.

[RunningDeer]

Thanks Paula for the picture resizing links, that helped tremendously on this tablet! So here's what I've got...
You're welcome, we-R-one. Really nice pictures. Thanks for sharing them. My sister lived in Nicasio, CA which is less than an hour away from the Sonoma-Napa wine country. Fun experience and beautiful landscape. You can’t help but drink it all in.
(Oh, and the wine, too http://avalonlibrary.net/paula/smilies/dielaughing.gif).

[KiwiElf]

Same thing as happened on 9/11, certain plants and trees intact in the background but metal objects completely destroyed, aluminum rims melted to liquid, glass windows completely gone (melted?) twisted metal... this is no ordinary fire apparently... other strange oddities with how there was no wind, nothing in sight, then 5 min later, entire area in flames... I even read a mainstream article... where couple jumped into swimming pool claiming nothing, then fire engulfed entire property in 30 seconds... ?

https://vimeo.com/238069175

I think Daddy Bush should have his "Weather Toys" taken off him! SOON!

[ghostrider]

I listened to a report from a person in the area at the beginning before the fire started... He said it was a clear day , no storm fronts , no cloud cover, and strange lighting was coming from the sky , spreading out in every direction,,, The trees went blazing quickly, and the wind picked up and nature took over ... He believes it was some kind of weather weapon ... That is why it was quick, and spread out over many areas...I will look for his YouTube post and link to the information, btw he does live in the area where the first fires started ...

[ghostrider]

Found it, checkout aplanetruth.info YouTube channel ... the title of the vid is 60 geoengineered firestorms across Santa Rosa...

[Orph]

In the second of the two videos posted by 'waves', above, leaves me asking --- where did this fire start? By that I mean, in a wildfire, we are talking about a fire that is burning out in the wilderness. As it moves, it can, and does, come into contact with towns. Then of course, some of the houses and buildings within the town will burn.

But in that second video, that entire neighborhood that was completely destroyed appears to be within the town itself. It isn't like this neighborhood was on the outskirts of town and was ignited by a raging wildfire. At the end of the video, the drone kind of pulls away and, again, appears to show the entire area that was burned. Where did the fire get started? This neighborhood doesn't seem to be in any direct contact with the forest.

I realize that flying embers can, and do, cause houses to catch fire. Houses that are not 'on the fire-line' so to speak. But look at that area. You can literally draw a line around that area and every house within that area is just totally, totally, destroyed. Outside of that area everything is fine. So, where did this fire start?

Once again, I have to use the word "appears", because all I have to go on is this one video. Maybe there is a good explanation for this. Just something to think about.

[Eric J (Viking)]

Jim Stone, Freelance Journalist

October 2017

At first I was skeptical, but I went over numerous social media posts several videos, and a few messages and it appears the fires were set by an atmospheric weapon.

First to clear something up – the manner in which the cars burned was normal. But there are some instances with what went on that prove a weather weapon did this.

Weather weapons work by using multiple transmitters to create a collision zone where differently phased EM waves cancel each other out, and drop their electrical potential into the air (which is a semiconductor) where they cancel. This is the equivalent of biasing a transistor. Semiconductors won’t simply break down and start conducting just because a bias field is applied, in order for them to conduct in a controlled fashion they need a doping agent. In silicon the doping agents are arsenic and boron. In air, the doping agent is most likely whatever is in the chem trails.

http://m.beforeitsnews.com/alternative/2017/10/california-fires-were-not-wild-they-were-engineered-jim-stone-3562391.html

Viking

[KiwiElf]

36300

In this video of an August test, Lockheed Martin's ATHENA laser weapon system burns down five drones. Laser weapons have huge advantages for the US military since they are silent, invisible, and much cheaper than traditional missiles.

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http://lockheedmartin.com/us/innovations/061416-webt-laser-swarms-drones.html

[Foxie Loxie]

Hello Tesla!!! Hope you're watching!! :waving: This all so sad! :facepalm:

[Eric J (Viking)]

Well it certainly seems this fire was not natural... The truth is slowly being prised open...

https://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtu.be&v=KAaiSjznt68

Viking

[KiwiElf]

California Under Full-Scale Attack! Secret Agenda No Longer Hidden!
Sunday, October 15, 2017 6:12
(Full article at link or alternativelyTHE MILLENNIUM REPORT link @ the end of this post. Additional sublinks, video & images @ link)

http://beforeitsnews.com/terrorism/2017/10/california-under-full-scale-attack-secret-agenda-no-longer-hidden-2460435.html?currentSplittedPage=0

(Before It's News)

THE MILLENNIUM REPORT: Reporting the Most Important News in the World Today

CALIFORNIA WILDFIRES:
Geoengineered Firestorms
Terrorize to Advance the Agenda(s)


California firestorm UN Agenda 21 & 2030 Agenda for Sustainable Development Will Not Be Thwarted by President Trump Even if California Must Be Destroyed

State of the Nation

There is nothing more sacred to the New World Order agenda than the covert plan to establish a One World Government. The ultimate goal of that misguided agenda is to completely own and manage all natural resources on planet Earth, as well to control the weather around the globe—24/7. This game plan also includes controlling all human resources, of course.

NWO Cabal Pursues Total Dominion Over The Earth’s Weather And Natural Resources

Only with the understanding provided by the preceding exposé can anyone begin to apprehend the true depth and breadth of this highly organized, multi-century conspiracy. In fact, all of the natural disasters and manmade catastrophes are used to carry out this master plan.

What is of paramount importance is to correctly comprehend both the strategy and the tactics being used by the NWO ruling cabal. Weather warfare, geoterrorism and environmental destruction reign supreme in the outworking of their agenda. As follows:

TPTB possess the in situ technology to create virtually any type of natural calamity they so choose to, many from scratch.
TPTB can manipulate an existing hurricane (or tornado swarm) by intensifying it and directing it to a specific location. The can also trigger earthquakes in active fault zones, as well as volcanic eruptions when they are semi-active.
TPTB can bring about any number of dramatic manmade catastrophes such as the BP Gulf oil spill, the SoCal Gas natural gas leak, the Oroville Dam Spillway collapse and the Hanford nuclear site leak.

California Fires of 2017

In light of the preceding assertions, it ought to be quite easy to grasp the utter simplicity of purposefully starting a series of fires in the once great state of California.

The entire state has been the victim of a geoengineering scheme that was significantly accelerated when [JESUIT] Governor Jerry Brown’s term began in January of 2011. As a matter of historical fact, the Great California Drought is known to have officially commenced in the first quarter of that same year.

Even though Brown has been made aware of the relentless chemical geoengineering operations that have occurred in the state’s skies, as well as over the Pacific Ocean, he has never once publically acknowledged it. California Governor Has Received Evidence Proving Drought Was Geoengineered

The coordinated combination of chemtrails and HAARP technologies, together with the various power plants and Nexrad transmission stations, has allowed the geoengineers to wreak havoc on every square inch of California. Hence, it’s imperative that the residents become aware that their ongoing Armageddon is being fastidiously manufactured…in the air, on the land and with the waters.

Relentless Chemtrail Spraying and HAARP-manufactured weather events radically alter California’s climate

Nothing illustrates this fabricated phenomenon better than the currently raging California wildfires. The daily firestorms are actually the product of a multi-year strategy to set the state up for the full-scale implementation of the UN’s Agenda 21 and 2030 Agenda for Sustainable Development. The following photos show just how powerful and destructive these geoengineered firestorms can be.

CALIFORNIA FIRESTORM PHOTOS (at original link): How does this type fire damage even happen? Defies scientific explanation!

How did they do it?

First they geoengineered the worst drought in the recorded history of California. Then they deliberately triggered the worst natural gas leak in world history. The Aliso Canyon natural gas storage facility in the northwestern San Fernando Valley was the site of the largest methane gas leak ever in USA. Conveniently located just north of Los Angeles, the Aliso Canyon natural gas storage facility near Porter Ranch released a record amount of methane into the atmosphere in 2015. And it’s still leaking today!

ALERT: Aliso Canyon Gas Storage Facility Is Still Leaking

Aliso Canyon methane gas leak mapped out in the surrounding area by volume in 2015 in red.

Why was the SoCal gas leak so integral to their yearly firestorm scheme?

Think about the natural combustibility of methane gas. Then consider how explosive any given locale would be that has a steady stream of natural gas leaking into the environment. Particularly when the leaking gas is coming from the largest storage facility west of the Mississippi it ought to be clear that not only does “Houston have a major problem“, so does Los Angeles. And it’s not going away until the state addresses these leaks in a decisive manner.

Gas still leaking at Aliso Canyon and elsewhere

It is quite inconceivable that state oversight and federal regulatory authorities have permitted the Aliso Canyon storage facility to continue to leak right up to this very day since it was discovered in October of 2015. That wasn’t the first time, either. It has been known to leak for decades without any meaningful remedial actions taken by SoCal Gas. The following article published by Southern California Public Radio on August 28, 2017 spells out the current predicament.

California state regulators see methane spikes at Aliso Canyon

The critical point here is that methane is a highly volatile gas that moves in ways that can cause it to accumulate in certain areas depending on the prevailing weather patterns. Were it to exist above certain concentrations in any particular locale, it could substantially contribute to and/or exacerbate a raging firestorm. Surely this is what’s happening in those places that have a history of similar leaks.

Given the ferocity of the firestorms now plaguing different parts of California, as well as the speed by which they come and go, it appears that they are being fueled by something extraordinary. It should be noted that the wildfire seasons — throughout the whole state — have been getting progressively longer and more destructive over the years. Certainly the historic drought has contributed greatly to this new reality, but so have the unrelenting methane gas releases.

The gas leaks are by no means limited to Aliso Canyon. The Natural Gas Storage and Transport Industry has facilities (and pipelines) across the state, many of which have proven to be similarly problematic, although not such an astronomically high volume of leakage. When these large and small leaks viewed in the aggregate, it becomes clear that the state of California has been inexorably transformed into an enormous tinderbox.
Weather warfare triggers firestorms

The 2017 firestorm back story is very complex and difficult to piece together. Given the massive atmospheric engineering programs being conducted above California and the 3 contiguous states, as well as over the ocean, there are new definite weather patterns which have been observed since Brown took office. Not that the state had not already been targeted before Brown took office as the premier Agenda 21 laboratory in the nation.

Truly, Kalifornia is ground zero for the UN’s stealthy initiative to impose Agenda 21 dictates disguised as friendly environmental laws. Likewise, the less surreptitious but equally deceptive 2030 Agenda for Sustainable Development is also seeing blind support from the heavily Democratic legislature in Sacramento. The shadow government knows that the way to compel the legislators to lend their political and personal support to the UN agendas is to stage apocalyptic wildfires in those locations that will produce the greatest effect (aka terror). California Wildfires: Devastation this year nearly the worst in state history

California has always had its fair share of wildfires, which manifest as humongous forest fires, fast-spreading grass fires and highway-jumping brush-fires. Hence, it’s quite easy for the arsonists to get away with starting these various fires in close proximity to Los Angeles (targeting Hollywood) and San Francisco (targeting Silicon Valley), and Sacramento (targeting the state capital). Given the overwhelming influence that these three demographics have both within California and upon the nation-at-large, the hidden strategy becomes apparent.

KEY POINTS: How easy is it to convince Hollywood moguls and actors of the need to address [what is essentially GEOENGINEERED] climate change when wildfires are licking their neighborhoods with towering flames? How easy is it to persuade the politicians to pass any legislation that penalizes businesses in the state that have gigantic carbon footprints? How easy is it to influence the Sultans of Silicon Valley to use their global social media platforms to favor all content that pushes any draconian legislation that fraudulently addresses climate change?

Nothing motivates the movers and shakers quicker than a sea of yellow flames in their back yard while air thick with smoke and ash is wafting through the neighborhood. Often referred to as the “Golden State”, it is slowly turning black. Once a paradise for all the “beautiful people”, it’s gradually becoming a dystopian post-apocalyptic wasteland and home to more illegal aliens than U.S. citizens. Of course, many years of a Democrat-led state government is very much to blame, as is the predominant ultra-liberal mindset found in all the urban centers. Wherever common sense has fled from the leaders, and the use of the faculty of human reason has been suspended indefinitely, things will not go well. Welcome to K A L I F O R N I A 2 0 1 7 ! ! !

Wildfire anomalies of 2017

What has really distinguished the violent firestorms during the 2017 wildfire season, which have simply blown up out of nowhere, is the extraordinary heat they are generating. The temperatures are so high they are melting steel and other materials normally not seen in the aftermath of these seasonal wildfires. Furthermore, the tornado-like winds that whip up before, during and after are quite unusual according to those who have lived in the affected areas for decades. California Fires In Napa Valley: What twisted the steel?

The other anomaly about these firestorms is the number of fires that jump off at one time in a relatively large area. Many researchers have circumstantially proven that many large wildfires in the past were actually started by arsonists on the ground. The fires were set at one location, and were then spread by the wind. Because of the timing of some of them, it appears that many of those fires were strategically set to produce a certain outcome. Sometimes they are started merely to distract the public from a significant local event. However, the fires this year follow a completely different pattern, though the intentions may be similar.

The recent spate of firestorms in the Napa Valley and around Sonoma County has produced a whole new dynamic that residents have never seen before. These fires seem to pop us spontaneously as though they are being started by some giant magnifying glass in the sky that is quickly moved unpredictably from location to location like a hopscotching fire tornado. Some investigators have labeled this inexplicable phenomenon a new form of geoterrorism.

GEOTERRORISM: 60 Geoengineered Firestorms In California Come Out Of Nowhere

How these firestorms are really created eludes even the best scientific investigators. However, their extremely destructive nature and the unprecedented damage associated with these fires indicate that the hand of man is somehow present. Everything from DEWs (directed energy weapons) to space-based invisible lasers have been conjectured. The following video has catalogued some of the anomalies, as well as surmised their causation.

VIDEO: (At OP Link) Northern California Wildfires: How These Firestorms Were Created

KEY POINT: How did so many vehicles sustain melted metal when the trees and grass and asphalt were left completely unscathed by the flames? A burning fire in
a car will last only so long before it burns out, and it certainly will not get hot enough to melt the metal components.

Melted metal flows from a burned out car abandoned on a highway during the Valley fire in Middletown, California on September 13, 2015. (Photo credit should read Josh Edelson/AFP/Getty Images)
Geoterrorism Wracks California

There is no other state in the union that has been the object of so much geoterrorism as California. Of course, this is by purposeful design. The NWO cabal knows that California has always been the premier trendsetting state. Whenever they embark on a social engineering experiment, the Golden State is where they set up the laboratory first. This is where their lab techniques are refined and perfected before they are run in the other 49 states. The state of Colorado has recently been used in a similar fashion.

Geoterrorism is not just a way of softening up the populace for Agenda 21; it also provides an opportunity for the geoengineers to test their new weather weaponry and other warfare technologies. Not only can they determine the efficacy of their advanced satellite-based weapons, they can evaluate how the people will react to the celestial assaults. This is a pivotal issue for the power elite. Because they cannot just terrorize the entire citizenry like they did in Syria in order to force a mass exodus of the indigenous people away from their ancestral lands, they are proceeding with a relentless sequence of natural disasters and manmade cataclysms.

This is how geoterrorism is especially utilized to scare the people away from certain areas that have been identified as “special” according to the 2030 Agenda for Sustainable Development. The same perps are using the imminent threat of the “BIG ONE” to scare many folks from the regions surrounding the San Andreas fault (Southern Cal) and Hayward fault (Bay area). The California earthquake echo-chamber has never reverberated as it has in 2017. No getting out of this’: Major earthquake ‘certain’ to hit Southern California, study says

However, it is the unseen weather warfare that has really taken its toll on the consciousness of Californians. So much so in fact that many now suffer from a unique form of PTSD due to the many calamities which are often experienced in rapid succession. Facing a protracted wildfire season is not very fun, especially when it occurs during a longstanding drought. Throwing an 8.0 earthquake into the mix only adds more anxiety to a very tense state of affairs.

We would be remiss if we did not mention the many other governmental fiascos and social debacles that afflict the same West Coast jurisdiction. Adding this fuel to the fire only guarantees a statewide breakdown, and probably sooner than later. Until then the weather warriors will take advantage of this other chaos and confusion as they always have to serve the UN agendas.

Agenda 21 United States Map

Conclusion

At this late date, there’s one particular remedy for the assaulted and beleaguered people of California that could reverse the race to the bottom. It might also permit an honest investigation of these and other weighty matters. The expeditious IMPEACHMENT of Governor Jerry Brown would serve to send a message to the other crazymakers who now populate state government. As a primary state and national leader of George Soros’s Purple Revolution against the Trump administration, Brown needs to be removed from public office post-haste.
Groups Joining Forces To Form Grassroots Organization to Remove Brown From Office Before California ‘Crashes and Burns’

Once a convicted Edmund Gerald Brown Jr. is securely behind bars for life for gross negligence, official misconduct and seditious malfeasance, California can begin the process of reclaiming its state rights and legal sovereignty as guaranteed by the US Constitution.

There’s only one way that such a necessary development will occur. The citizenry must take back their power from those who have stolen it. They must also stand in their own truth and speak that truth to power like never before. When a critical mass of truth speakers do this in unison, the whole place changes in an LA moment.

The Jerry Browns of the world, and especially those who lead the current “crash and burn” approach to governance in Sacramento, must fear We the People more than they fear their masters in Deep State. In order for this major shift to take place, the citizens may have to show up in force with their “torches and pitchforks”.
Let’s get busy!

State of the Nation
October 14, 2017

Editor’s Note

Perhaps the most important exposé on the Internet today, regarding the true causes of climate change, is the previous SOTN post titled: Geoengineering Is The Primary Cause Of Global Climate Change, Not CO2

Recommended reading

WEATHER WARFARE: Globalists Order Geoengineers to “Shock & Awe” America with Superstorms

Full-Scale Weather War Being Waged Against North America

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THE MILLENNIUM REPORT: Reporting the Most Important News in the World Today

[waves]

What about the Smart Meters? My gut is saying they played a part. Look how accurate the supposed 'flying embers' were at finding all the far apart houses yet leaving all the surrounding vegetation untouched.

https://s1.postimg.org/168p46x2tb/far_apart_houses_burned_not_trees.jpg
https://s1.postimg.org/1v1yo7pbkv/far_apart_houses_burned_not_trees2.jpg

[KiwiElf]

Smart Meters = Homing Devices? ;)

[waves]

I can do without the doomy music but includes part of a 2003 press conference on DEWS with Rumsfeld and Myers displaying their bad acting, and aptly points out that the facility long making the most advanced DEWS in the US is in Livermore, right here in our Bay Area backyard.

Shows how isolated the burned down Kmart, Arby's, McDonald's and gas station building were from nearby untouched buildings and it's not clearly shown, but the KMART is barely a block from those fast food restaurants with untouched buildings in between. The story is that the fire leaped over the freeway to them.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vrgUpkAcOH4

[Sunny-side-up]

I'm sorry I didn't watch the videos 'Santa Rosa and Northern CA fires DEFY THE LAWS OF PHYSICS' by inTruthbyGrace and 'Geoengineering is Fueling Firestorm Catastrophes' by Dane Wigington posted by Lady M above before my first post. I wouldn't have said I didn't find anything nefarious yet.

I request this thread be retitled to something like 'Whole Santa Rosa Neighborhood Dustified at 3am 10-09-17'.

There are big questions and reports are only beginning. Here's one for a good perspective of the Coffey neighborhood dustification. It's hard to ignore the similarities to 9-11 factors.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yRmwz32uot0

added: another drone flyover different day, different perspective


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GYWUU0P4A5o

Think your post with it's vid's needs a BUMP:bump: but not with a smile :(

[waves]

People are still in shock here and I don't think the civilian world has really caught on to the gravity of what happened, so new posts coming in slowly. I'm suspicious at how 'authority' is still not letting property owners back in the Coffey neighborhood as it's long cooled off now but much of it is the flattest and most dustified and suspicious. It will be very telling if they force people to let them bulldoze it before they're allowed to visit.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YyiHz5EarQo


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z37DdckI2oI


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jYeo2Ya50V8

[Noelle]

Here are two links shared on Facebook over the last two days by Patrick Riddie of Stop Spraying Us. They appear to show fresh aerosol spraying over northern California.

NASA Worldview: N. California (https://worldview.earthdata.nasa.gov/?p=geographic&l=VIIRS_SNPP_CorrectedReflectance_TrueColor(hidden),MODIS_Aqua_CorrectedReflectance_TrueColor,MODIS_ Terra_CorrectedReflectance_TrueColor,Reference_Labels,Reference_Features,Coastlines&t=2017-10-15&z=3&v=-128.6604913404617,37.45002638955662,-119.13900312270499,43.01786539814325&ab=off&as=2017-10-07&ae=2017-10-14&av=3&al=true)

NASA Sport: N. California (https://twitter.com/NASA_SPoRT/status/919696061802930176)

[Foxie Loxie]

Are we still The Sheeple after seeing all this???

[Foxie Loxie]

Hey, Joe! Care to get into what has been happening in Calif.; which appears to be the result of directed energy weapons?? What IS going on with what appear to be the "elite groups" having Weather Wars? I wonder which "agenda" will win? :confused:

[Hervé]

Jim Stone - Fires in California Were Not "Wild" (https://www.henrymakow.com/2017/10/stone-fires-not=wild.html)

October 17, 2017


https://www.henrymakow.com/upload_images/171010101241-wildfire-slider-pics---after-super-169.jpg


More than 5700 structures and 200K (https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/oct/16/california-wildfire-death-toll-recovery) acres burned in Santa Rosa

41 Dead. It looks like Hiroshima (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SCvtBCx042E). Houses burned but not trees?

Electronic malfunction. Was this fire caused by a direct energy weapon?
"MANY MANY people saw electrical flashes that made no thunder in the perfectly clear blue sky, and worse, some people even saw small blue sparks everywhere in the air around them."
Santa Rosa Fires Ended Up Being Major (http://82.221.129.208/.zw0.html)
[scroll down to article]

by Jim Stone
(henrymakow.com)

At first, I was skeptical, but I went over numerous social media posts, several videos, and a few messages and it appears the fires were set by an atmospheric weapon.


https://www.henrymakow.com/upload_images/molton-vehicle.jpg
(Normal? Not if this photo is genuine.)


First, to clear something up - the manner in which the cars burned was normal. But there are some instances with what went on that prove a weather weapon did this.

Weather weapons work by using multiple transmitters to create a collision zone where differently phased EM waves cancel each other out, and drop their electrical potential into the air (which is a semiconductor) where they cancel. This is the equivalent of biasing a transistor.

Semiconductors won't simply break down and start conducting just because a bias field is applied, in order for them to conduct in a controlled fashion they need a doping agent. In silicon, the doping agents are arsenic and boron. In air, the doping agent is most likely whatever is in the chemtrails. The ionosphere is the power supply, and earth is "ground". Everything in between the ionosphere and the ground will heat up.

If enough voltage is applied to a semiconductor, it will suddenly discharge it in one big burst. This is seen in the air as lightning. The weather/geoengineering systems try to avoid this. But this time around, in California, the effects of excess voltage were readily observed by MANY MANY people, and it manifested itself in more than one way.

Evidently, the people running the geoengineering systems have become more bold, like a thief that steals more and more and more, the more the thief gets away with stealing. The same is happening with weather warfare, and this time around in California, they got bold enough to push the system hard enough so that the effects of the system in use were easily observed.
1. Some people got heart palpitations from having their bodies charged.

2. MANY MANY people saw electrical flashes that made no thunder in the perfectly clear blue sky, and worse, some people even saw small blue sparks everywhere in the air around them.

3. MOST DAMNING: People are reporting that their electronics malfunctioned before the fires hit, with the most pronounced and spoken about malfunction being at a hotel (The Silverado resort and spa), where ALL of the electrical systems in the hotel malfunctioned, including the electronic access doors, forcing people to jump from windows (because they could not leave their rooms) to escape an approaching fire that instantly appeared out of nowhere in perfect weather.
It is very important to make note of the malfunctioning doors, because a simple power outage will not stop those from working. Something jammed the circuits in the doors. Simultaneously the hotel lost main power, generator backup, UPS backup, and local battery backup. Not even the always operational emergency hall lights worked. That would be totally consistent with a massively potent EM weapon causing complete electronic malfunction because not even the circuits in the emergency backup lighting that turn it on (which operate independently of everything off of a small battery right in the light itself), not even circuits at that small level worked.

There are people trolling social media (perhaps because they don't understand how things work, but perhaps not) and they are saying there is no way the air could have been so electrically charged that sparks would be everywhere because it would electrocute anyone standing in it. This is not true at all. Tesla proved it. There are lots of photos of Tesla sitting on a chair with an electrical storm all around him because it does not take much to make a show (relative to what the body can take because the body is a much better conductor than air.)

Additionally, the frequency at which the air is charged makes a big difference, once the frequency goes beyond approximately 40 khz the body won't conduct it deeply due to an electrical effect is known as the skin effect, where electrical charges travel on the outside of objects rather than through them. All the unbelievable Tesla photos were the result of super high voltage low current electricity traveling around the outside of objects due to the skin effect caused by that electricity also being at a high frequency.

So how would this start forest fires? the answer is an easy one.
1. a dry leaf is thin, which eliminates the benefit of conduction via the skin effect, and

2. A dry leaf will try to be an insulator, which will force all of the electricity that flows through it to turn itself into heat. And additionally, if the air is sparking everywhere as some witnesses said, one of those sparks would probably set off dry tinder somewhere.
POOF, instant fire, there should have been several cases of exploding dry trees where there was no fire there before at all. Lots of people are saying these fires suddenly "exploded out of nowhere" - no hint of any previous fire, no lightning, no NOTHING, just a sudden high wind happening at the same time the forest nearby suddenly burst into flames. That would be a telltale sign of a sudden massive electric field heating everything up (everything that could not conduct electricity very well, which means air and dry leaves.)

There are people saying spaced based laser systems are doing this, (and that absolutely would work, so I "get it",) but I still believe they are using phase cancellation of radio waves to cause a bias field, because whatever happened when a laser was used would not be easily controllable and would too easily result in the creation of massive ionosphere to ground lightning bolts. That is not happening, which is why I am sticking with the EM wave approach to this. Maybe as they get more brazen and not caring about noticeable effects, they will start using lasers, which would be a whole lot easier.

How could you possibly get 66 widely spaced massive wildfires appearing instantly with no natural weather causing them, growing rapidly, with the perfectly calm weather before, sudden massive winds at the initiation of the fires, blue sparks in the air, malfunctioning electronics, and in some people heart palpitations?

My answer: just ask Darpa

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I must say I am impressed that even Henry Makow is starting to pay attention to Jim Stone :)

[Hervé]

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https://img.huffingtonpost.com/asset/55f6ea4f2c00003600aafa5f.jpeg?ops=scalefit_970_noupscale
Melted metal flows from a burned out car abandoned on a highway in Middletown, California, Sept. 13, 2015. (https://www.theatlantic.com/photo/2015/09/a-fiery-weekend-in-california/405211/)



https://a.scpr.org/i/36f1b7fbb256389579d37c86df84a220/174216-full.jpg
Melted metal from burnt cars is formed on the ground after wildfires ripped through the Coffey


http://www.mercurynews.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/10/sjm-l-fires-1015-523.jpg?w=620
Burnt cars line the streets in the Fountain Grove neighborhood on Saturday, Oct. 14


http://cdn.abclocal.go.com/content/creativeContent/images/cms/100917ccnapafire42.jpg
http://cdn.abclocal.go.com/content/creativeContent/images/cms/100917ccnapafire42.jpg
http://abc7.com/10-dead-100-reported-missing-as-fires-ravage-ca-wine-country/2511052/


http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/dam/assets/171013111957-hollow-tree-fire-california-exlarge-tease.jpg
Tree full of wildfire found by Sonoma man (http://www.ksbw.com/article/wow-norcal-tree-full-of-wildfire/12951600)

[Whiskey_Mystic]

Here are two links shared on Facebook over the last two days by Patrick Riddie of Stop Spraying Us. They appear to show fresh aerosol spraying over northern California.

NASA Worldview: N. California (https://worldview.earthdata.nasa.gov/?p=geographic&l=VIIRS_SNPP_CorrectedReflectance_TrueColor(hidden),MODIS_Aqua_CorrectedReflectance_TrueColor,MODIS_ Terra_CorrectedReflectance_TrueColor,Reference_Labels,Reference_Features,Coastlines&t=2017-10-15&z=3&v=-128.6604913404617,37.45002638955662,-119.13900312270499,43.01786539814325&ab=off&as=2017-10-07&ae=2017-10-14&av=3&al=true)

NASA Sport: N. California (https://twitter.com/NASA_SPoRT/status/919696061802930176)

For what it is worth, I saw clear chemtrails over San Mateo county and over the Pacific to the west the last two mornings. That's not really unusual for us, though. We've been seeing chemtrails regularly for decades now. Same goes for Mt. Shasta. I spend a lot of time there and it's consistently the most heavily chem-trailed place I've ever seen. It's too hazy today to make out anything in the sky.


We are expecting rain on Thursday or Friday to help with the fires. Also, a new fire cropped up this morning in the Santa Cruz mountains. With these dry conditions, homeless camps and illegal pot farms are the first suspects. It doesn't take much for a fire to get out of control fast.

https://www.nbcbayarea.com/news/local/Fire-Santa-Cruz-Mountains-Bear-Creek-Canyon-Road-Evacuations-451239633.html?_osource=SocialFlowTwt_BAYBrand

edit: One thing I have not seen mention of is the massive heat wave we had over the summer which is actually continuing now, though not as strong. It was so hot that during the Burning Man festival, it was hotter in San Francisco than it was in the Black Rock Desert. San Francisco is usually chilly sweater and jackets weather for much of the summer.

[Bill Ryan]

http://cdn.abclocal.go.com/content/creativeContent/images/cms/100917ccnapafire42.jpg


None of the vegetation was touched by the fire, even the leaves by the side of the road. That's highly, highly weird, and seems extremely hard to understand.

[Mark (Star Mariner)]

http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/dam/assets/171013111957-hollow-tree-fire-california-exlarge-tease.jpg

I was not at first convinced of anything unnatural or untoward with these fires, but I admit now there is strangeness at work here, and it is mounting up. This (above) takes the cake for me. How on earth does a tree catch fire on the inside??

[KiwiElf]

EM weapon indeed -
sidenote: It's entirely possible. If I use either my portable phone or my microwave it knocks out the WiFi to my MacBook Pro which is sitting on the dining room table between the lounge & kitchen. The actual WiFi modem is a good 30 ft away in my office. (could this knock out the doors opening?)

Also, the earlier Millenium Report (post #37) mentions a long ongoing methane gas leak...?

A "perfect" combination of conditions... (chemtrails + atmospheric + gas leak + (to act as a catalyst) + microwave, laser or scalar beam, (as a concentrated "igniter") + some kind of device or wiring found in every home &/or car as a "conductor" (that may not be the correct term - Hervé - help!!!) = to create a "perfect firestorm"?:confused:

I don't understand any of the physics involved here but whatever it was = geoengineered IMO

EDIT - Further sidenote: NZ makes use of natural gas fields for home energy use & is used widely throughout the country. In its natural state, the gas is odourless; - (they add something to it to give it an odour so if there's a leak, users can smell it. Like many gases, - particularly methane - it's highly explosive when mixed with air - refer to the NZ Pike River Mining Disaster - one of NZ's little "coverups"...)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pike_River_Mine_disaster



Glossary:

Electrical conductor (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electrical_conductor)

semiconductor (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Semiconductor)

Resistor (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Resistor)

Insulator (electricity) (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Insulator_(electricity))

Capacitor/condenser (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capacitor)

[Whiskey_Mystic]

The tree burning inside while the bark, which may already be charred, isn't that weird to me. The car with unburnt vegetation around it certainly is, but I've heard stories through the years of similar things happening in great fires such as the Cloquet Fire in 1918 Minnesota. Lots of weird stories handed down through the generations from that one. I'm checking with a fireman in my group to see if he has a common explanation for the burn pattern. Not saying there's nothing abnormal, just looking into all possibilities.

A word of caution. Whenever events happen, there are people who make money off of them by tying them to wider narratives and conspiracies. Be wary of that. Bill has told us that he was warned about "UFO Disease". Never take anyone's report at face value, whether it is CNN or Fulford. A vast industry exists that makes money by identifying your hope and fear buttons and then pushing them at every opportunity. You might have seen some presidential candidates do this from time to time. Sometimes the button of choice is to create a greater narrative drama wherein our lives seemingly take on more meaning. Don't fall victim to that game. While you investigate events that may or may not be part of a larger drama, use a skeptical mind. Identify and then learn to dismiss your own control buttons. This is how you will fine tune your signal to noise ratio and start seeing the real picture.

[KiwiElf]

If it were possible to microwave a tree, could it burn from the inside out? :confused:

The melted metal from the cars is not too unusual; the car bodies are steel and not melted, most of these pics are showing melted alloy wheels & engine components (aluminium alloys) which have a lower melting point. But melted glass? Hmmmmm

[norman]

http://cdn.abclocal.go.com/content/creativeContent/images/cms/100917ccnapafire42.jpg


None of the vegetation was touched by the fire, even the leaves by the side of the road. That's highly, highly weird, and seems extremely hard to understand.

I agree that there is so much high strangeness with all this, but, it's just possible that the burnt out isolated cars were used for escape while already on fire, and then abandoned when the users realised the vehicles were doomed.

[Hervé]

These burnt vehicles of California are highly reminiscent of 9/11 and Tianjin:


http://i2.chinanews.com/simg/hd/2015/08/13/d4634c37b7874414a6e2fb4e19efb47d.jpg
Tianjin

http://www.tt.com/csp/cms/sites/dt.common.streams.StreamServer.cls?STREAMOID=Ck$xkIMIViHzmIMy9mwwXc$daE2N3K4ZzOUsqbU5sYvKcIbuaXGmVdj 0SGoA6rvmWCsjLu883Ygn4B49Lvm9bPe2QeMKQdVeZmXF$9l$4uCZ8QDXhaHEp3rvzXRJFdy0KqPHLoMevcTLo3h8xh70Y6N_U_C ryOsw6FTOdKL_jpQ-&CONTENTTYPE=image/jpeg
... before we found it – the first big clue coming with the pictures of the thousands of toasted cars that looked eerily like those seen on 9-11. Tianjin

http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/acb3f5d583f3.jpg
New York

https://usercontent2.hubstatic.com/9133891_f520.jpg
New York: The problem is that 1400 cars caught fire while paper everywhere did not. What burns faster, paper or cars? Ever kindle your fireplace with a tail pipe?

http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/3b4099d23e14.jpg
New York

https://topperspective.files.wordpress.com/2016/05/wp-1462106573362.jpeg?w=748
New York (https://wtcrevelations.wordpress.com/about/)

[KiwiElf]

Slight change of tack here from the HOW; my next question would be WHY?

There's growing net chatter that the hardest hit areas are Cannabis (legal) farms? If true, the implications are many... who loses, who gains? Motive(s)?

[Whiskey_Mystic]

Slight change of tack here from the HOW; my next question would be WHY?

There's growing net chatter that the hardest hit areas are Cannabis (legal) farms? If true, the implications are many... who loses, who gains? Motive(s)?

I would say no. If this were true, The Emerald Triangle and Siskiyou County would have been much harder hit, not to mention large sections of Oregon.

If you see a bunch of fires in Mendocino and Humboldt counties start up, then this theory could be given a closer look.

[waves]

Slight change of tack here from the HOW; my next question would be WHY?

There's growing net chatter that the hardest hit areas are Cannabis (legal) farms? If true, the implications are many... who loses, who gains? Motive(s)?

That's a big no. The concentration of large, long established in-forest cannabis farms are in the next county north, Mendocino. Though a few hidden ones might have been lost in the Sonoma/Napa hills surrounding the now 6,000 mostly homes lost, this fire and the things most devastated had zero to do with attacking cannabis.

added: But why and why here remains a huge unanswered question. I haven't really even heard any reasonably plausible suggestions. This fire wiped out the most exclusive million dollar home neighborhood (Fountaingrove) and did not discriminate between race, ethnicity, finances or anything. You could even say it avoided the lower income neighborhoods.

[Joe from the Carolinas]

My initial thoughts on this issue of the California fires..

oUtwZF1MMaM

[Joe from the Carolinas]

Hey, Joe! Care to get into what has been happening in Calif.; which appears to be the result of directed energy weapons?? What IS going on with what appear to be the "elite groups" having Weather Wars? I wonder which "agenda" will win? :confused:

my take on it is a little different than the alternative mainstream

oUtwZF1MMaM

[KiwiElf]

So that's the "cover explanation" - thank you for clarifying Whiskey & waves ;) (we're hearing very little about it across the pond)

[norman]

Microwaves have to be trapped inside a metal box for them to be effective as an 'oven' [according to a retired military sparky who explained to me that cell towers couldn't possible be used as heater weapons regardless of how highly powered they are]

A car is a metal box, that would probably trap incoming microwaves to a much greater extent than everything else in the area.

[Hervé]

Microwaves have to be trapped inside a metal box for them to be effective as an 'oven' [according to a retired military sparky who explained to me that cell towers couldn't possible be used as heater weapons regardless of how highly powered they are]
Strange... I thought microwaves ovens were designed so that said waves wouldn't escape the oven/Faraday cage to wander around and cook the rest of the surrounding environment... like the cook or the chef :)

On the other hand it is recommended to protect cell phones from an EMP by locking them into a micro wave (Faraday cage) or a metal container...

However, try to put aluminum foil in a microwave and watch the fireworks of sparks when being "cooked" :)

Accordingly, witnesses describing being surrounded by blue sparks is supporting the occurrence of some strong EMF/microwave in their vicinity.

[KiwiElf]

OK - how about scalar beam technology? - these can be weapon mounted (refer Tom Beardon & here - the tech goes back to Tesla's era - also known as "Tesla Waves")


https://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/scalar_tech/esp_scalartech37.htm

[Noelle]

Here is a video shared on Facebook yesterday by Project Camelot. It's called "How and Why CA Fires Were DEW Created" and runs about 22 minutes. I have not had a chance to watch it, but plan to this afternoon. The description reads: Further evidence highly suggests the surprise record firestorm was created to re-purpose zoning developments towards AGenda 21 mandates.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQy5CDDzhoc

[Foxie Loxie]

Thanks, Joe, for your take!! Just LOVE your down-to-earth, common sense take on everything! :highfive: Guess we have to bring back the Minutemen...like from Colonial Times! So much work was done on the 9/11 catastrophe, we kind of have a base to work from in comparing tragedies. I do not have a scientific mind, but there are those among us who DO. :o

If what I'm learning here on Avalon is true, it appears we ALREADY have a space-based fleet which they did not want the public to know about. Why? We also know from various sources there seem to be some "elite" groups who control things from the top down, so to speak, so the general public, being busy with their Everyday Lives, haven't a clue as to what is being imposed upon us. I like C.A. Fitts way of "fixing things" by starting county by county; a Common Sense Lady!
Then we have David Icke's Totalitarian Tiptoe, Dane Wigginton's fight against chem trails....

My question is.....are we already past the tipping point? So many of us haven't a clue as to what is going on in the Bigger Picture! I think of people like Bill & Kerry who have dedicated their lives trying to get at the Truth of what is going on. We have the Free Energy group. Wade Fraiser's thread is a gold mine of information there! I wonder if the basic question is whether we want to continue as a "human" society... or...if we are unknowingly submitting to a Controlling Power that we little understand?

As Joe said, "What do we DO about it?! THAT is the question!! :idea:

[fourty-two]

Here is another aspect to think about regarding the Santa Rosa Fires. The title of the article is somewhat inflammatory - in my opinion - as it relates the urban downtown fire regs to the fire regs for building outside that designation, Coffee Park is outside the urban core - where I live.
The devastation- all homes reduced to ashes with some trees still standing - is similar to the results of fires in San Diego County 10 to 15 years ago.
Here excerpts from the local Preess Democrat (reprinted) story:

Santa Rosa's devastated Coffey Park neighborhood was exempt from fire rules[/B]

Although a forensic examination will be required to understand exactly what happened at Coffey Park, the unburned trees still standing in the neighborhood tell wildland fire experts that the cause was not a giant front of flames sweeping out of the nearby hills and fields.
Most likely, the fire was touched off by embers blown from a distance. Firebrands capable of igniting a house can travel more than a mile.
“When you’ve got firebrands going into every crook and cranny, they’re going to find somewhere to start combustion,” Sapsis said.

Because it was outside the officially mapped “very severe” hazard zone, more than five miles to the east, Coffey Park was exempt from regulations designed to make buildings fire resistant in high-risk areas.
Experts are reluctant to say that even the most stringent fire proofing would have saved Coffey Park
“Without a doubt, had that fire come into and hit an interface that was built according to today’s standards, you would have much less a chance of getting as far into that neighborhood as it did. It would have made some difference.”
http://www.pressdemocrat.com/news/7534368-181/santa-rosas-devastated-coffey-park?ref=most&gallery=7515439&artslide=0

[Foxie Loxie]

LadyM...thanks for the video....the Agenda 21 aspect is VERY interesting!! It is something most would not pick up on! :facepalm:

[Ben]

Hi Joe, i really liked your down to earth, no-nonsense take on this.

I've got one question, and more to follow probably, which is to do with the melting point of bricks.

I just found this explanation regarding this topic: "Also, standard construction brick is the only building material that is as strong, or stronger, after going through a fire."

Source: https://www.reddit.com/r/askscience/comments/3h96j8/what_is_the_melting_point_of_a_brick/

So, assuming most houses have bricks as a large part of their foundations, then why was ther no trace of them?

Something to ponder.

And I really dig the idea of watching the watchers. Any advice on devices that can be used for this? Whilst not exactly a luddite - i'm no tech expert either :)

[fourty-two]

Here in Santa Rosa most homes are not constructed with bricks. This is earthquake country - we have a major fault running n-s through the city. The mortar in brick structures gives way in earthquake frequencies and the place crashes down.
As far as foundations go - the homes here are built on concrete slabs without cellars or basements,
The slabs are still there - everything else not so much

[waves]

What is the evidence of a DEW in household remains?

FEMA IS FORCING ALL COFFEY PROPERTY OWNERS (maybe others too) TO SIGN A WAIVER TO ALLOW THEM TO ENTER THEIR PROPERTY TO 'REMOVE THE TOXICS' BEFORE THEY CAN VISIT IT IN PERSON
- which we're being told won't even start for another 2 weeks.

What toxic materials are there to remove from houses reduced to ash?
IS IT TOXICS REMOVAL or EVIDENCE REMOVAL?

https://s1.postimg.org/6v3syxzfr3/where_are_the_houses.jpg


or... Where did the tools, silverware, toilets, tubs, structure metals and granite countertops go?

Yes there are toxics in burned dwellings, but when else has FEMA demanded to 'clean it up' before allowing anyone to even see their property remains first in person, depriving them of the right to salvage anything?

I've been waiting for evidence that there's going to be a coverup in COFFEY and I got it yesterday when lots of neighborhoods were being allowed back except Coffey and some nearby others, and I heard this FEMA demand announced on the local radio station KSRO.

FEMA is demanding Coffey property owners (and others?) sign a waiver to allow FEMA to enter their property and remove toxic contents before they can even visit in person. FEMA will do it for free, though you could hire a private contractor (but I wonder if it will have to be from THEIR list).

Since I doubt all 6,000 burned structures over two counties are all DEW related, I've been suspecting it would be especially revealing how they would handle the Coffey neighborhood which seems to contain the most flattened, dustified whole houses reduced to ash.

I suspect it's not toxics they want to be so nice to remove for free, it's to remove evidence of and squash awareness of the fact that 1000's of housefuls of tools, silverware, toilets, tubs, framing disappeared - any stuff that all fire info sites say don't burn up in normal 1100-1700 degree house fires let alone vaporize. I especially want to know if any granite countertops got vaporized. I don't see any. And they would surely want to eliminate all the cars with melted transmissions and engine blocks and streams of aluminum right next to untouched plastic wheel liners.

And keeping people out at least another 2 weeks could be the amount of uninterrupted access Lockheed and friends need to finish analysis of their results. KSRO also helped keep people scared away by stating the military was keeping people out.

Still ringing in my memory is the immediate bulldozing and shipping to China of all the remnants of 9-11 twin towers with ZERO analysis/investigation while trying to sell us their foregone conclusions.

There was a long article in the local paper today about how wonderful FEMA is going to be to clean everything up for free, and it didn't once mention the signing away of rights being demanded by FEMA. It's already obviously being played down.

Otherwise, fires under control, no more local danger or much toxic air. We're at the beginning of a very long phase 2.

[KiwiElf]

Hmmmm toxins... radioactive toxins? Has anyone run a geiger counter through the area? (It was very "telling" in the aftermath of 9/11) ;)

[Bill Ryan]

A very compelling video here, walking us through a staggering number of apparently inexplicable anomalies. I have to say, some of the crazy details shown really got my interest and attention.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q2q7nN0JYWE

[ThePythonicCow]

A very compelling video here, walking us through a staggering number of apparently inexplicable anomalies. I have to say, some of the crazy details shown really got my interest and attention.
LadyM posted this same video, in Post #2 (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?100187-Deadly-unusual-wildfires-in-California-40-dead-hundreds-missing&p=1185279&viewfull=1#post1185279) of this thread, some five days ago now, with various discussions of it scattered about this thread since then.




From Bill: Thx... I'd completely missed that one.
(If it bumps the video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q2q7nN0JYWE), then good)

[Noelle]

There are so many anomalies: the blue sparks that residents saw, pacemakers malfunctioning, how many of the fires started at around the same time, and what burned and didn't burn.

Up until this fire storm, I did not know much about directed energy weapons. I've been trying to educate myself. On October 14, close to midnight, I had just typed "directed energy weapon" into the Google search bar and hit enter and our German Shepherd started to go nuts, barking like crazy at the door. I quickly looked his way, and then there was an explosion. Through the sidelight next to our front door, I could see a roaring fire in front of our house. It was the car of my daughter's boyfriend, which he parks on the street. After putting it out, firefighters told us it started in the engine and was probably caused by oil or transmission fluid.

Ok, so it was not caused by a directed energy weapon -- but I did think about it. :idea:

[KiwiElf]

Ok, so it was not caused by a directed energy weapon

Ahhh, but were all the cars in the fire suffering from a fluid leak? (Brake fluid for example, is dangerously combustible if it gets in direct contact with something really hot - it will burst into flames once it hits a certain temperature, even more so than oils or petrol - a hot exhaust pipe is sufficient).

I'm not willing to give away the theory that some form of "exotic technology" wasn't used in this just yet, simply due to "anomalies", which can't be explained by a normal bush fire & are consistent with 9/11 "anomalies" ie dustifying metal...). ;)

This situation is defying the laws of (known) physics - for the "rest of us", anyway :). ("Cabal" & Lockheed Martin-style (hidden) physics, maybe not ;))

I guess I rely too much on Sherlock Holmes thinking, you know,.. "When you eliminate the impossible, whatever remains - however improbable,... must be the truth" (or words to that affect ;))

[Orph]

...... I had just typed "directed energy weapon" into the Google search bar and hit enter and our German Shepherd started to go nuts, barking like crazy at the door. I quickly looked his way, and then there was an explosion. Through the sidelight next to our front door, I could see a roaring fire in front of our house. It was the car of my daughter's boyfriend, which he parks on the street. After putting it out, firefighters told us it started in the engine and was probably caused by oil or transmission fluid.

Ok, so it was not caused by a directed energy weapon -- but I did think about it. If it were me, I'd do a lot more thinking about it. Cars don't just explode into flames. True, it probably wasn't some sinister, evil bad guy out to get you. But there had to be a valid reason for it to happen. All cars have oil and transmission fluid, but that doesn't mean the go kablooey.
:focus:

[Flash]

It does look like Hiroshima, minus the enormous amount of death in Hiroshima. It does look like a war is on, and it is showing up that way. At the same time as the shooting in Las Vegas. Hum..... And as America is Under the threat this time around, they do not want to tell the world they are defenseless. Well, those are some wacky presumptions, but hey, this is strange. So my presumptions lead me to cross check with other wild fires, namely Fort McMurray in Canada in 1916. This fire destroyed a whole town and here are the pics:

below, melted aluminum

https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/660/cpsprodpb/12EDB/production/_89613577_fortmcmurray-burntoutcars.jpg


Pretty flat too ain't it?? Where are the houses?

http://i.huffpost.com/gen/4951080/thumbs/o-FORT-MCMURRAY-570.jpg

smaller fire going on


http://storage.edmontonsun.com/v1/dynamic_resize/sws_path/suns-prod-images/1297833018430_ORIGINAL.jpg?quality=80&size=650x

standing trees and stuff
http://storage.edmontonsun.com/v1/dynamic_resize/sws_path/suns-prod-images/1297833018430_ORIGINAL.jpg?quality=80&size=650x

Well, i must now presume that wild fire do that, completely flatten parts while right beside some stuff does not burn. Unless both Forth McMurray and California are energy weapons used, which I now doubt.



What is the evidence of a DEW in household remains?

FEMA IS FORCING ALL COFFEY PROPERTY OWNERS (maybe others too) TO SIGN A WAIVER TO ALLOW THEM TO ENTER THEIR PROPERTY TO 'REMOVE THE TOXICS' BEFORE THEY CAN VISIT IT IN PERSON
- which we're being told won't even start for another 2 weeks.

What toxic materials are there to remove from houses reduced to ash?
IS IT TOXICS REMOVAL or EVIDENCE REMOVAL?

https://s1.postimg.org/6v3syxzfr3/where_are_the_houses.jpg


or... Where did the tools, silverware, toilets, tubs, structure metals and granite countertops go?

Yes there are toxics in burned dwellings, but when else has FEMA demanded to 'clean it up' before allowing anyone to even see their property remains first in person, depriving them of the right to salvage anything?

I've been waiting for evidence that there's going to be a coverup in COFFEY and I got it yesterday when lots of neighborhoods were being allowed back except Coffey and some nearby others, and I heard this FEMA demand announced on the local radio station KSRO.

FEMA is demanding Coffey property owners (and others?) sign a waiver to allow FEMA to enter their property and remove toxic contents before they can even visit in person. FEMA will do it for free, though you could hire a private contractor (but I wonder if it will have to be from THEIR list).

Since I doubt all 6,000 burned structures over two counties are all DEW related, I've been suspecting it would be especially revealing how they would handle the Coffey neighborhood which seems to contain the most flattened, dustified whole houses reduced to ash.

I suspect it's not toxics they want to be so nice to remove for free, it's to remove evidence of and squash awareness of the fact that 1000's of housefuls of tools, silverware, toilets, tubs, framing disappeared - any stuff that all fire info sites say don't burn up in normal 1100-1700 degree house fires let alone vaporize. I especially want to know if any granite countertops got vaporized. I don't see any. And they would surely want to eliminate all the cars with melted transmissions and engine blocks and streams of aluminum right next to untouched plastic wheel liners.

And keeping people out at least another 2 weeks could be the amount of uninterrupted access Lockheed and friends need to finish analysis of their results. KSRO also helped keep people scared away by stating the military was keeping people out.

Still ringing in my memory is the immediate bulldozing and shipping to China of all the remnants of 9-11 twin towers with ZERO analysis/investigation while trying to sell us their foregone conclusions.

There was a long article in the local paper today about how wonderful FEMA is going to be to clean everything up for free, and it didn't once mention the signing away of rights being demanded by FEMA. It's already obviously being played down.

Otherwise, fires under control, no more local danger or much toxic air. We're at the beginning of a very long phase 2.

[Noelle]

Ok, so it was not caused by a directed energy weapon

Ahhh, but were all the cars in the fire suffering from a fluid leak? (Brake fluid for example, is dangerously combustible if it gets in direct contact with something really hot - it will burst into flames once it hits a certain temperature, even more so than oils or petrol - a hot exhaust pipe is sufficient).

I'm not willing to give away the theory that some form of "exotic technology" wasn't used in this just yet, simply due to "anomalies", which can't be explained by a normal bush fire & are consistent with 9/11 "anomalies" ie dustifying metal...). ;)

This situation is defying the laws of (known) physics - for the "rest of us", anyway :)

Sorry. I should have been more clear. I was not connecting the exploding car in our front yard with the No. Calif. fires. It was a side note related to the directed energy weapon theories being discussed.

[KiwiElf]

Woops sorry LadyM - I added a bit (above) - I too wasn't being clear about "the rest of us" or particle beam weapons - something here does not fit a "forest fire" ;)

EDIT: PS- What you experienced with your daughters' boyfriend's car & you typing "directed energy weapon" at that moment, would definitely be a "synchronicity". (= meaningful coincidence) Freaky stuff! :wizard:

[Jean-Luc]

Just met today for a breathtaking 3 hours discussion with very bright and courageous Dr Katherine Horton (Switzerland) of the Joint Investigation Team (https://jointinvestigation.org/about/) on Directed Energy Weapons. I will try to post more on this in the near future.

Interview by Kerry Cassidy last July here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PnAdhWU0hHo

[KiwiElf]

New & 2nd video from inTruthbyGrace (who produced the 9/11 anomaly comparison video on the previous page - Bill's Post #73 - & LadyM's Post#2 earlier in the thread)

Santa Rosa Fires: Observations & Military Lockdown of Abnormal Fire Zones

Published on Oct 18, 2017
The parts of Santa Rosa that burned "normally" are NOT on military lock down... the evidence that this was NOT a normal fire IS under military fence lock and guard... they say it is to prevent looters... but there's nothing left... you couldn't loot a splinter from these places.

Does someone want this land for something?

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[KiwiElf]

And a third...

Evidence of Military Grade EMF Accelerants Used in Sonoma Napa FIRES
inTruthbyGrace
Published on Oct 13, 2017

Something turned these houses into in furnaces to allow for near complete combustion... the evidence of what we are seeing defies the laws of physics for an open air fire, I have ALREADY documented the wind speeds were marginal for the areas at the time the fires started. The fact that a tree is burning AS IF IT IS A FURNACE is noteworthy and should be of great concern to anyone educated prior to 1995 when physics and chemistry actually taught us what is possible with a mere open air burn vs a furnace. TOTAL combustion of material is NOT possible outside of a furnace, yet that is exactly the damage we are observing with temps reaching high enough values to MELT GLASS...

H_YgQB8Rsww

[Kristin]

Having lost my house in a ridge fire in California well over 10 years ago, I will attest that these fires are indeed hot enough to melt glass, metals etc. There may not be anything nefarious going on here. Glass melts in a fire pit.

However, I will say that the property may be caught up in a money grab. That part happens all the time after national disasters. People leave after being unable to rebuild due to insurance hang ups, big businesses buy up the properties cheap, then rent goes up, property goes up, and insurance goes up. Big money grab.

[KiwiElf]

Radio interview with Elana Freeland (who authored books on Chemtrails, HAARP) on The Anthony Patch Show. Reiterates the original STAR WARs program & the newer cutting edge technology used in the "Space Fence".

Directed Energy Weapons Over California with Elana Freeland

Published on Oct 14, 2017
Elana Freeland lays out the case for scalar wave directed energy weaponry having been employed igniting the fires in Santa Rosa, and elsewhere in California.

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[Kristin]

Thanks Kiwi, I will check out the video. :)

[Hervé]

About that burning hollow tree... one can also argue that it turned into a chimney built out of dry wood instead of stone... so, that indeed turned it into a furnace/forge.

The question that remains though: how did the fire start inside of it in the absence of a surrounding fire?

[KiwiElf]

Having lost my house in a ridge fire in California well over 10 years ago, I will attest that these fires are indeed hot enough to melt glass, metals etc. There may not be anything nefarious going on here. Glass melts in a fire pit.

However, I will say that the property may be caught up in a money grab. That part happens all the time after national disasters. People leave after being unable to rebuild due to insurance hang ups, big businesses buy up the properties cheap, then rent goes up, property goes up, and insurance goes up. Big money grab.

But that's the trick, Kristin - plausible deniability. It's not just the melted glass we're seeing here. Let's go back to 9-11: IF similar "exotic technology" was used on the Twin Towers - and I'm convinced it was - that was 16 years ago. How can you be sure the fires you experienced were also not a result of the same or similar technology? :) (Rhetorical question ;))

[ThePythonicCow]

I will try to post more on this in the near future.
Excellent - let us know when you have more!

[Mark (Star Mariner)]

I'm still certainly in the 'highly suspicious' camp for the nature and origin of these fires, but there is one other thing to possibly consider with regards the total devastation seen in the images. Not sure if mentioned already, but no firefighters were on site to tackle these fires. This could be at least relevant. Because with a normal house fire, an engine is called and puts it out usually long before the house disintegrates. Maybe that is why these don't look anything like 'normal' house fires. Not saying there's nothing to see here, on the contrary, but the fact that these houses were blazing for hours and hours completely unchecked is worth taking into consideration.

But after seeing the pictures, I still don't understand how so many trees and plastic objects like waste-disposal units survived a supposed raging firestorm. Pretty inexplicable...

[Noelle]

I think the video posted above (post #82) by KiwiElf -- which shows how a different but nearby fire burned, with while it burned and after it burned footage -- is worth checking out.

[Noelle]

Here is a video (11 mins.) taken by a firefighting squad on October 9. They came up from Berkeley, about an hour's drive from Santa Rosa. They share footage of what they saw when they arrived and their reaction to it. As they come into the subdivision, they are stunned; they see nothing to save. They say it looks like a "bomb went off."


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rdk4d74j3p8

[waves]

Glad more people are taking notice and connecting dots. Interesting comp incorporating Grace's video, movie excerpts and commentary.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MhHOMU-IhHA

[Kristin]

About that burning hollow tree... one can also argue that it turned into a chimney built out of dry wood instead of stone... so, that indeed turned it into a furnace/forge.

The question that remains though: how did the fire start inside of it in the absence of a surrounding fire?

One of the things you learn when living in California is that fires can burn beneath the ground and move for weeks and pop up in other places through following roots in dead trees, it's slow moving but it happens. I do agree with the "plausible deniability" issue as well. Just like 911, there may be a few things happening in tandem.

[Noelle]

There are other cases of trees burning on the inside, including one in Ohio (ScienceAlert.com link below). The article states too that it is not uncommon and attributes it to lightning strikes.

http://www.sciencealert.com/watch-this-devil-tree-in-ohio-is-burning-from-the-inside-out

Regarding the burning tree caught on video in No. California, I believe that authorities ruled out lightning. But here is some insight from a National Geographic feature (http://video.nationalgeographic.com/video/news/171016-northern-california-tubbs-wildfire-glowing-tree-vin-spd) on that specific tree fire.

What they saw, explains Scott Stephens, professor of fire science at UC Berkeley, is the end result of a fungus called Armillaria, that rots the core of trees. The material that remains within is dry, and cavities allow fire to penetrate to the tree's interior. The tree can burn for days, until eventually it can't support its weight, and collapses. Falling trees are one of the biggest causes of fatalities in wildfires.

[Whiskey_Mystic]

Coffey Park and other Santa Rosa neighborhoods are being allowed to return to their homes today.

¤=[Post Update]=¤




One of the things you learn when living in California is that fires can burn beneath the ground and move for weeks and pop up in other places through following roots in dead trees, it's slow moving but it happens. I do agree with the "plausible deniability" issue as well. Just like 911, there may be a few things happening in tandem.

Yes, fire can smoulder and travel along roots for years even before popping up.

[waves]

Coffey Park and other Santa Rosa neighborhoods are being allowed to return to their homes today.

I'm sorry I didn't copy the whole article announcing that yesterday, which is not even a front page notice anymore or in the list of fire articles - you have to search your own history. The resident-only visits are from 10-5p today and they have removed a line that said they were going to force people to wear protective gear. It also states the area will be open to the public starting Sunday, but includes a threat to homeowners of disqualification of free cleanup if they 'handle the ash'.

"Christine Sosho, county director of environmental health, urged people not to handle ash and debris because it... could disqualify residents from the government-funded cleanup."

[TargeT]

And a third...

Evidence of Military Grade EMF Accelerants Used in Sonoma Napa FIRES
inTruthbyGrace
Published on Oct 13, 2017

Something turned these houses into in furnaces to allow for near complete combustion... the evidence of what we are seeing defies the laws of physics for an open air fire, I have ALREADY documented the wind speeds were marginal for the areas at the time the fires started. The fact that a tree is burning AS IF IT IS A FURNACE is noteworthy and should be of great concern to anyone educated prior to 1995 when physics and chemistry actually taught us what is possible with a mere open air burn vs a furnace. TOTAL combustion of material is NOT possible outside of a furnace, yet that is exactly the damage we are observing with temps reaching high enough values to MELT GLASS...

H_YgQB8Rsww


Because I understand how electromagnetic waves go through tree's and what they do...

This lady DOES NOT know what she is talking about....


You CAN Xray tree's, (https://www.fs.fed.us/t-d/pubs/html/97241202/97241202.html#xray) it's a common practice.

Windsheilds on cars are tempered at around 700c, car fires with fuel, oil etc... they get pretty hot....

Tree's burn from the inside ALL the time ( https://www.accuweather.com/en/videos/crazy-tree-burns-from-inside-out-after-lightning-strikes-it/4waxezote6whjna1xtxbbirfnfa-jwrv )Tree's bark is it's protection, it's fire resistant, the inside of tree's much less so.


"military grade accelerants" is a collection of buzz words... an accelerant is just what ever you use to help a fire burn faster (o2, gasoline, dry wood, high powered EMF's.. these can all be accelerants).

I'm not saying she's not onto something, but the examples are mostly crap.

[bobme]

Maybe tnere is no fire brick in california. Or no fire place in that area that has it. I saw no chimneys to suggest it is needed for heat. do not know the codes there though. can somebody let me know what they are? Thanks.

[Whiskey_Mystic]

Maybe tnere is no fire brick in california. Or no fire place in that area that has it. I saw no chimneys to suggest it is needed for heat. do not know the codes there though. can somebody let me know what they are? Thanks.

In most of the bay area, fireplaces on any new building is not allowed due to air pollution concerns. Fireplaces even in older buildings are uncommon. The older the building, the more likely it is to have a fireplace. Most of Santa Rosa would be newer buildings (I think) as development in the north bay began to jump in the mid-nineties.

[bobme]

thanks Whisky, the logic of the air pollution from natural organic fuels polluting the atmosphere is illogical to me. The smell of buning wood is calming, and natural to me. thanks again.

[Noelle]

Another possible cause of the fire being looked at: meteorites. The first video (approx. 6 mins.) discusses meteors/fireballs reported in the general area around the time the fires broke out. The video also points to a forest fire breaking out in New Hampshire's White Mountains area a few days before and a nearby resident seeing what he believed to be a meteor. The second video (approx. 3 mins.) talks about the New Hampshire incident.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=25n3Pqjin18


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R6v2Ik-xK-k

[waves]

POSSIBLE MOTIVES in this SUPERPRIME REAL ESTATE AREA with spread out houses using up way too much land and a crisis level housing shortage for every income level even before this:

1. Will 6000+ homeowners find it impossible to afford rebuilding permits and too much less value/comfort to live with Agenda 21/2030 building code stipulations?

2. Will 1000's with shattered equity be forced to give up and sell cheap leading to developers anxious to create 'pack and stack' communities?

https://s1.postimg.org/82t9l4ga9r/july_oct_maps.jpg


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zgPxd65EiHc

The text of letter to aplanetruth at the 2:14 point:
https://s1.postimg.org/1np4x6x5kf/epstein_letter_small2.jpg

Hi,

I thought you should see this if you haven't already thought to check into motive for the fires. I haven't looked at Napa planning or other areas affected by the fires, but I imagine that planning and development reports will be similar.

The maps of the fires and the planned already approved housing projects are nearly identical. I think that our government and developers who put them in office are that arrogant and think no one will notice. If anyone does point this all out, being able to prove it is another issue.

All the insurance companies are set up at the shelters to process claims. Paying everyone off to calm them down and put money towards their new home.

When they find out how much additional money it will cost and how long it takes to navigate the building permits process, buying a ready made brand new home will be an easy decision even if it means a much smaller one on a much smaller lot.

It kills me when I think of all the people who are now homeless and who, if they have the means and determination to rebuild, will not be able to have anything like the houses they lost, even if they have unlimited funds because of the absurd building codes thanks to the UN Agenda 21.

Fireplaces aren't allowed. The stupidity of setback measurements, building heights, 'Green' engineering and design requirements and other arbitrary codes that were deliberately created to make building a residence needlessly frustrating, time consuming and very expensive for developers who seem to all be able to do whatever they want, especially if they made substantial campaign contributions.

How convenient that everyone who just recently lost a home will be able to buy a ready made stack and pack residence in a nice, but much smaller, planned development with their insurance money (if they get any, and if not, there are plenty of even smaller apartment options that will be there.)

What about all the burned down properties? People will be glad to get whatever they can if they choose not to rebuild and developers, banks and other speculators are waiting with cash in hand.

They are not human. The people who put all this in motion simply can not be human. It doesn't require any special glasses to see them. Just look at what they do.

PS. I was a securities trader on the PSE (equities) about a million years ago..

Kathleen Epstein

[Hervé]

More from Jim Stone on the subject:
Something is seriously amiss with the recent California fires (http://82.221.129.208/.zv2.html)

Some people have seen this type of report elsewhere already.

However, I have discovered something new, and also proven the melted cars are unique to the recent fires.

It was not just this year. The same anomalies happened in 2015

What anomalies? Let me show you something.

Lets start with a couple examples of cars NOT burned in California wild fires, to show that what is happening in California is very strange.

This is a Jaguar that was NOT burned in the California fires. Look at the rims. Look at the ground around it. No melted metal. Even though the tires burned completely off the alloy rim, the rim is still there. The white stuff on the ground is the fire foam used to put it out.


http://82.221.129.208/fire6.jpg


Ok, so a Jaguar might have special alloy rims that won't melt in a fire, right? Well, what about this Ford truck then, that got completely consumed, including tires burned perfectly off the rims. Rims are fine. The engine is not melted. This truck burned so badly the body vanished and it looks like someone stripped it, yet the rims and engine are still there.


http://82.221.129.208/fire3.JPG



http://82.221.129.208/fire1.jpg


The rims did not vanish. Not on the truck, not on the jaguar. The bodies on both of these vehicles vanished because they are aluminum. That would be explainable, because body metal is thin enough to vanish.

I chose the first two pictures because they are the most extreme examples of burned cars I could find, with sections of the bodies gone, yet the aluminum engines and aluminum rims are still there. Why did they not melt, flowing out onto the ground?

Not being in a California wild fire is not an acceptable explanation for the engines and rims staying intact. If they are intact in these two extreme cases, there is no way they should be melted all over the place in California.

Ok so here's a burned slug bug after a california wild fire. The engine melted. It is flowing down the road. What on earth is in a slug bug that could cause it to burn like that?

Important on this next photo - this is from a 2015 California wild fire.

The rims melted on this car (below), and there is absolutely nothing around it to indicate it should have burned so hot. You can search Google images all you want for burned cars, and aside from those that burned in California wild fires in recent years, you won't find examples of the metal flowing away from them like this. And what's worse? This car is isolated. There was not enough around it burned to cause it to melt like this. Look at the pavement, even away from the car. It is simply too scorched to believe a burning car did that. Yet it is not burned far away from the car, which proves heat from a fire on the other side of the road did not do this. Yet this photo is confirmed to have come from a California wild fire. INEXPLICABLE! (http://ww2.kqed.org/news/2015/09/14/photos-scenes-from-the-lake-county-valley-fire/)


http://82.221.129.208/fire8.jpg


It is obvious some sort of energy weapon did this.

How about this next photo. This is very odd.

Here we have an obviously totally melted engine. If the engine in the Ford truck above did not melt (and it was aluminum, just like the SUV in this photo,) I'd like an explanation for how a car that burned a lot less had this much melted metal flowing out of it. And this is not an odd example, there were countless cars just like this one in the California wild fires this time around.

What on earth was in the slug bug (above) that would cause it to burn so bad the engine flowed away?

That is not a car loaded with plastic and other combustibles. Burning the fuel tank would likely not do it either. I have never seen an engine flow away just because a gas tank caught fire - I have never seen that happen PERIOD.

So WHY THIS?


http://82.221.129.208/fire4.jpg


It was not just the car anomalies that is making the California fires extremely anomalous. This next photo is explainable. This is what happens when in America, people are only allowed to build with wood, and then a wild fire comes through. The big problem with this photo is the fact the houses burned at all, simply because the rules said they had to be built with materials that burn. That would be a tyranny problem.


http://82.221.129.208/fire10.jpg


But this next photo needs some explaining. Here we have totally isolated structures, with nothing burned in sight, yet they just decided to pop themselves off. There are lots of photos of burned homes right in with perfectly intact trees, (which looks suspicious but could be tenuously explainable) but this here takes the cake, I don't buy this, this - beyond all doubt - had to have been done as an act of war, with a directed energy weapon. And I would bet that is why we have inexplicably melted cars also.


http://82.221.129.208/fire2.jpg


I at first figured that when cars with alloy rims burned that it was normal for them to melt and flow away from them.

But when you search Google images, the only examples of this happening are all from California, and associated with these wild fires.

I beg to question why. Perhaps here is a hint, from someone who lived through one of these fires in 2015: (https://ww2.kqed.org/news/2015/09/23/valley-fire-forcing-residents-to-evacuate-injures-firefighters-in-lake-county/)

"It wasn’t even a fire. It was like fluorescent evil," Whispering Pines resident Bill Gavin told the Press Democrat. "I saw sections like football fields go up in four seconds."
Readers of this web site sent messages, saying the air was electrified, to the point of being visible and affecting their heart beat. This was covered in an earlier report.

So at that time, it was basically proven that directed energy weapons were used for the recent fires. But I did not believe it melted the cars until now.

Search Google images for an example that comes from a source other than these fires. There are none that I found, and an endless stream of examples from california, and these fires.

The cars really are a unique feature of these fires that prove something is seriously amiss with how these fires are actually starting.


http://82.221.129.208/fire7.jpg


http://82.221.129.208/fire11.jpg


It seems to me that someone used wild fires as cover for a weapons test.
==============================================

I find that hypothesis very interesting.

[Bill Ryan]

It seems to me that someone used wild fires as cover for a weapons test.
==============================================

I find that hypothesis very interesting.

Yes, that really reached out and kind of hit me over the head. I'd never thought of that angle. That has to be a possibility.

[norman]

China had a few very strange events that were never understood well, at least by me or anyone I read.

The likelyhood of a global scale tit for tat thing is very high in my estimation.


Meanwhile, here's something written by a victim of the "wild fire". It's not the slightest bit 'conspiratorial', just a plain response to a few concerned cyber friends.

A (rare) snapshot.



Thanks, ******. A refinement on that point: I had five complete backups; 3 onsite in different places (where I figured in an earthquake…the most likely event in our area…at least one would survive), and two offsite copies as ****** explained. We lost all three of the backup drives at home because the property – 10 acres of oak chaparral – was entirely consumed by the firestorm. The destruction was so devastating that they still haven’t opened up the road that leads to our house in Glen Ellen (and I just checked an hour ago). Nevertheless, I did managed to sneak up there with a couple of friends 2x last week to see if there was anything left. All of my original audio field tapes and DAT tapes are toast, fragmented with the metal reels twisted or melted, the fire was so hot. The DATs have been reduced to ash. The old Nagra IVs that *** ***** so lovingly kept working since 1970 (it was one of the first off the line), was reduced to a blob of twisted metal. Previously, it had even survived a 40 foot drop from a helicopter on a film shoot. And all of the various DAT recorders are gone, too.


But the archive with all the metadata and recordings is still intact. We’re not finished, yet.

[Satori]

A modern day Grapes of Wrath, but instead of a dust bowl it's a fire bowl. Drive them off "God's Country", as the famous botanist, Luther Burbank, is credited as having dubbed the Santa Rosa, Napa and Sonoma Valley area.

[Noelle]

More from Jim Stone on the subject:
Something is seriously amiss with the recent California fires (http://82.221.129.208/.zv2.html)

Some people have seen this type of report elsewhere already.

However, I have discovered something new, and also proven the melted cars are unique to the recent fires.

...
It seems to me that someone used wild fires as cover for a weapons test.
==============================================

I find that hypothesis very interesting.

Are there directed energy weapons that produce fireball effects? I'm trying to link this to the reports of fireballs/meteorites the night the fires began (above, post #102).

[Hervé]

[...]
Are there directed energy weapons that produce fireball effects? I'm trying to link this to the reports of fireballs/meteorites the night the fires began (above, post #102).
I don't know about fire balls of the solid kind (meteorites) but ball lightning (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ball_lightning) could fit in the electromagnetic spectrum of phenomena.

[waves]

More from Jim Stone on the subject:......

It seems to me that someone used wild fires as cover for a weapons test.
[/INDENT]==============================================

I find that hypothesis very interesting.

Yes I'm now convinced of targeted areas and many specific dwellings with DEWs, but a weapons test can't hardly be the only reason considering the huge aftermath of ramifications and opportunities created.

Santa Rosa was chosen. Why might that be?

It's affluent and known for being liberal, green, bucolic and progressive. I believe it was chosen to be an example in rebuilding forcing denser communities with housefuls of smart crap and the whole rest of the array of futuristic control mechanisms they want built into homes. And possibly also as a test run of how resistant affluent people on too much land will be and what issues they need to eliminate with laws for the next rounds of resisters.

AGENDA 21 TEXT
http://agenda21news.com/2014/09/uns-international-building-codes-necessary-tool-agenda-21-implementation/
“Land… cannot be treated as an ordinary asset, controlled by individuals and subject to the pressures and inefficiencies of the market.

Private land ownership is also a principal instrument of accumulation and concentration of wealth and therefore contributes to social injustice; if unchecked, it may become a major obstacle in the planning and implementation of development schemes…

Public control of land use is therefore indispensable to its protection as an asset and the achievement of the long-term objectives of human settlement policies and strategies.”

I also bet I don't yet see some other agendas that are going to pop up and be ugly.

Whatever they are, I think we can safely assume that of course the truth will lie in the same old bottom line - follow the money and what agendas are going to benefit.

I'm mostly afraid attention on this huge event will fade - not that there's even been much for as significant to EVERYONE's FUTURE as it is - and the perps will get even more empowered to keep it up. The ramifications of ignoring this event are that your surroundings are creeping up the list too, maybe next.

[Hym]

Waves, you hit on what I was just thinking.

When I heard of the unusual nature of the fires in Santa Rosa I thought of Rosa Koire, the author of "Behind The Green Mask". It's no coincidence that the area affected was the one of the original proving grounds for government manipulation of land rights, thus becoming the primary impetus for there to become a ground level, grass roots, neighborhood gathering of home owners who began the fight against the "redevelopment" agencies who are instructed by the efforts of UN mandates to enslave populations into narrow corridors of control.

These agencies are entirely created to control and eliminate the basic rights of owning your own home and your right to collectively determine the environment you live in. In fact the agency that was seeking to control just that specific area redrew the boundaries of the Santa Rosa zone just to remove Rosa as the homeowner's elected president of the Santa Rosa Neighborhood Coalition. Her house was now out of the zone.

Rosa is not just an average citizen, nor is her partner Kay Tokerud. They are the best of what informed and active citizens can be. Their court fights are important in maintaining the rights of ownership, thus the continuity of family and heredity.

Rosa Koire is a forensic commercial real estate appraiser specializing in eminent domain valuation. She is a former District Branch Chief for the California Department of Transportation, with a twenty-eight year career in litigation support on land use, which has culminated in exposing the impacts of Sustainable Development on private property rights and individual liberty.

Their Post Sustainability Institute reveals the truth about the green movement's manipulation by those who don't have an ounce of caring for the humanity that occupies any space, any land, any business.

For me, the manipulation of social liberties by the UN and it's agenda to create a training program amongst cities and counties in the U.S. was amongst the hardest things to deal with when getting an education in renewable energy and sustainable technologies. Having to deal with a complete ignorance about the suppression of truly sustainable and free energy technologies, let alone any knowledge of Tesla, Bearden, and others, AND knowing that all educational curriculum is devoid of teaching about the mandates of the UN proved to be annoying.

This action has all of the markings of a concentrated UN Agenda 21 operation. In this case I consider it a personal attack on one of the most vocal and informative movements determined to uphold citizen's rights to own and control their own homes. This is an opportunity for you as a citizen to see and document the connection of advanced technology to the manipulations of economic social agendas. It's all about that.

At least inform yourself about Agenda 21 and you'll learn to fill in the gaps between coincidence and opportunity.

[Tintin]

More from Jim Stone on the subject:
Something is seriously amiss with the recent California fires (http://82.221.129.208/.zv2.html)

Some people have seen this type of report elsewhere already.

However, I have discovered something new, and also proven the melted cars are unique to the recent fires.

...
It seems to me that someone used wild fires as cover for a weapons test.
==============================================

I find that hypothesis very interesting.

Are there directed energy weapons that produce fireball effects? I'm trying to link this to the reports of fireballs/meteorites the night the fires began (above, post #102).

Did you ever check in with the work of Dr Judy Wood citing John Hutchison at all, in relation to 9/11? The point that was made further up by Jim Stone via Herve may actually have some merit. Judy Wood spoke of 'toasted cars' as in being not toasted as in fired, but, completely ruined 'toasted'. Molecular dissociation was taking place down there in Lower Manhattan back then - some seriously weird stuff.

[Noelle]

More from Jim Stone on the subject:
Something is seriously amiss with the recent California fires (http://82.221.129.208/.zv2.html)

Some people have seen this type of report elsewhere already.

However, I have discovered something new, and also proven the melted cars are unique to the recent fires.

...
It seems to me that someone used wild fires as cover for a weapons test.
==============================================

I find that hypothesis very interesting.

Are there directed energy weapons that produce fireball effects? I'm trying to link this to the reports of fireballs/meteorites the night the fires began (above, post #102).

Did you ever check in with the work of Dr Judy Wood citing John Hutchison at all, in relation to 9/11? The point that was made further up by Jim Stone via Herve may actually have some merit. Judy Wood spoke of 'toasted cars' as in being not toasted as in fired, but, completely ruined 'toasted'. Molecular dissociation was taking place down there in Lower Manhattan back then - some seriously weird stuff.

I believe I did a few years ago. Maybe I'll watch one of her presentations/interviews tonight for a refresh. Thanks!

[Tintin]

More from Jim Stone on the subject:
Something is seriously amiss with the recent California fires (http://82.221.129.208/.zv2.html)

Some people have seen this type of report elsewhere already.

However, I have discovered something new, and also proven the melted cars are unique to the recent fires.

...
It seems to me that someone used wild fires as cover for a weapons test.
==============================================

I find that hypothesis very interesting.

Are there directed energy weapons that produce fireball effects? I'm trying to link this to the reports of fireballs/meteorites the night the fires began (above, post #102).

Did you ever check in with the work of Dr Judy Wood citing John Hutchison at all, in relation to 9/11? The point that was made further up by Jim Stone via Herve may actually have some merit. Judy Wood spoke of 'toasted cars' as in being not toasted as in fired, but, completely ruined 'toasted'. Molecular dissociation was taking place down there in Lower Manhattan back then - some seriously weird stuff.

I believe I did a few years ago. Maybe I'll watch one of her presentations/interviews tonight for a refresh. Thanks!

I can recommend this one:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vadSaWyiozg

Or this one, which is more appropriate to the subject here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5DOJtITaJ-c

[KiwiElf]

Hi Hervé & waves,

Great theory(s) (...and no-one is gonna budge me off the idea that "exotic technology" similar to what was used in 9-11 was also used here based on the evidence presented on these pages!). :):thumbsup:

I'm playing devil's advocate when I say that there is science that we know, and science(s) that are kept hidden from us. When we get the "strange events" like this one, (or 9-11) which defy (known) "physics", we must start thinking outside the box.

Re two of the three cars in post above @ #104:

New(er) Jags have aluminium bodies & custom-made wheels but I have no idea what the wheels are made of. The old air-cooled VW Beetles have engine cases made of magnesium alloy, but I can't be sure that's what is pooling out of the back of the one above - it tends to burn rather than melt.

There is at least one facebook Vimeo video floating around showing some kind of "beam", but it arcs - despite the assertion by the lady poster that it's a "green laser", I do not think that's the case. It does look remarkably like a flame thrower type of "flame" (it's not a flame thrower tho) - haven't added it here as it's not well presented and have been trying to find the original.

[Hervé]

Regarding bizarre phenomena, high heat fires and meteorites, please check out this article:


1871 - 8 Oct. - Great Chicago Fire. See Comet Biela and Mrs. O'Leary's Cow (http://www.sott.net/articles/show/148414-Comet-Biela-and-Mrs-O-Leary-s-Cow) (Another item that John Lewis has not entered into his calculations.)


http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/imagenes_ciencia/asteroids_comets12_06.jpg

Cometary fire ruins, as seen from the corner of Dearborn and Monroe Streets,

Chicago, 1871.

[Noelle]

More from Jim Stone on the subject:
Something is seriously amiss with the recent California fires (http://82.221.129.208/.zv2.html)

Some people have seen this type of report elsewhere already.

However, I have discovered something new, and also proven the melted cars are unique to the recent fires.

...
It seems to me that someone used wild fires as cover for a weapons test.
==============================================

I find that hypothesis very interesting.

Are there directed energy weapons that produce fireball effects? I'm trying to link this to the reports of fireballs/meteorites the night the fires began (above, post #102).

Did you ever check in with the work of Dr Judy Wood citing John Hutchison at all, in relation to 9/11? The point that was made further up by Jim Stone via Herve may actually have some merit. Judy Wood spoke of 'toasted cars' as in being not toasted as in fired, but, completely ruined 'toasted'. Molecular dissociation was taking place down there in Lower Manhattan back then - some seriously weird stuff.

I believe I did a few years ago. Maybe I'll watch one of her presentations/interviews tonight for a refresh. Thanks!

I can recommend this one:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vadSaWyiozg

Or this one, which is more appropriate to the subject here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5DOJtITaJ-c

Thanks for posting the videos. :sun: I got through most of the second video. They spent a lot of time criticizing the people who were quick to post videos after the fires started and alleging DEWs were involved. I thought they were a little harsh and condescending, using words like "stupid" and "gullible," though I get what they are saying. A few words of caution about jumping the gun followed by their opinions at this point would have been fine. I will watch the first video tomorrow.

[KiwiElf]

Ad Hominem attacks are typically used to debunk "conspiracy theories" & belittle the accuser, LadyM - they are also rarely useful in finding the truth. ;)

[KiwiElf]

RELATED SIDENOTE: The first few days after 9-11, clips & pictures of "unusual objects" spotted during the event started showing up on the internet - this was obviously before YouTube, and since then, most of these "interesting" pics are nowhere to be found.

One brief, long distance, gif video showed a wide panorama view covering at least a mile or more with the twin towers in the center and the second airplane just seconds away from impact. A dark object at similar altitude (UFO?) streaks from right to left of the entire frame in the same time it takes the second plane to travel those few hundred feet. Object is moving at well over supersonic speed. (A similar "object" was also "accidentally" video'd in at least one of the Japanese Tsunami videos in 3/11)

At the SAME TIME, someone near ground zero accidentally snapped what appears to be the tail pipe exhaust of an "exotic aircraft" moving in the same direction & position as the above. A second clip also shows a similar, dark streaking "object."

Remarkable "coincidence".

Neither photographer in two entirely different locations had seen the "object" when they started filming.

(both images/video are virtually impossible to find now on the net)

[we-R-one]

Waves, you hit on what I was just thinking.

When I heard of the unusual nature of the fires in Santa Rosa I thought of Rosa Koire, the author of "Behind The Green Mask". It's no coincidence that the area affected was the one of the original proving grounds for government manipulation of land rights, thus becoming the primary impetus for there to become a ground level, grass roots, neighborhood gathering of home owners who began the fight against the "redevelopment" agencies who are instructed by the efforts of UN mandates to enslave populations into narrow corridors of control.

These agencies are entirely created to control and eliminate the basic rights of owning your own home and your right to collectively determine the environment you live in. In fact the agency that was seeking to control just that specific area redrew the boundaries of the Santa Rosa zone just to remove Rosa as the homeowner's elected president of the Santa Rosa Neighborhood Coalition. Her house was now out of the zone.

Rosa is not just an average citizen, nor is her partner Kay Tokerud. They are the best of what informed and active citizens can be. Their court fights are important in maintaining the rights of ownership, thus the continuity of family and heredity.

Rosa Koire is a forensic commercial real estate appraiser specializing in eminent domain valuation. She is a former District Branch Chief for the California Department of Transportation, with a twenty-eight year career in litigation support on land use, which has culminated in exposing the impacts of Sustainable Development on private property rights and individual liberty.

Their Post Sustainability Institute reveals the truth about the green movement's manipulation by those who don't have an ounce of caring for the humanity that occupies any space, any land, any business.

For me, the manipulation of social liberties by the UN and it's agenda to create a training program amongst cities and counties in the U.S. was amongst the hardest things to deal with when getting an education in renewable energy and sustainable technologies. Having to deal with a complete ignorance about the suppression of truly sustainable and free energy technologies, let alone any knowledge of Tesla, Bearden, and others, AND knowing that all educational curriculum is devoid of teaching about the mandates of the UN proved to be annoying.

This action has all of the markings of a concentrated UN Agenda 21 operation. In this case I consider it a personal attack on one of the most vocal and informative movements determined to uphold citizen's rights to own and control their own homes. This is an opportunity for you as a citizen to see and document the connection of advanced technology to the manipulations of economic social agendas. It's all about that.

At least inform yourself about Agenda 21 and you'll learn to fill in the gaps between coincidence and opportunity.

When I saw the fire maps, Agenda 21 was the first thing I thought of too....I posted extensively about the topic long ago on Avalon and still remember the Executive order 12852, which is how it began it's implementation within the UNITED STATES, minus congressional approval. Wow how much backlash I got from forum members for posting well documented information....but let's not re-visit. Maybe now more are aware and can better understand my stance and concern. It'll be interesting to watch the push back people get once they try and rebuild.

However, that being said...when I got back home from traveling abroad during the fires, I called a friend who once owned and now manages his winery off of Mountain Home Ranch Rd. in Calistoga....I asked if he noticed anything unusual about how the fire had burned.....he was adamant that there was nothing conspiratorial in the behavior of the fire. He stated the winds were high and the embers where blowing everywhere. Unfortunately he lost some equipment, but fortunately not the winery. His family business has been around for a looong time, over 100 years I think and his family's vineyard burnt down back in 1946, about 8 years before he was born, so fires aren't new to this family. In this instance I'm referring to the Tubbs Fire, thought you guys might want to know.

[Hym]

Where are the forensic fire investigators when they are needed? If they are good they would need to be there on the ground, analyzing the videos, the air, the particulate chemical makeup of the debris. They would need to know some about the science of geo-engineering, EM tech and related weaponry, review the patent information, read and dismiss the silliness and accidentally discovered truths of amatuers like some of us, and in the end be able to see the truth in all of this. It can usually be found.

Knowing the capabilities of a deep state to manipulate atmospheric conditions, I look at the timing when even completely natural conditions adversely affect people and property,, and ask why those machines aren't used to drastically decrease the progression of those conditions, those weather systems that do so much harm. Few would argue against this use of such advanced systems, but revealing that positive capability would prove it's previous negative uses, and since those who manipulate the science and the machine are all about profit and control, that will not likely ever happen, outside of making a silly action movie about the ability of a sinister group to adversely affect the world's weather. Wait. There just happens to be a movie about this coming out soon and it's called GeoStorm. What a coincidence.

Now what are the chances of a deeply immoral group of film-makers making a movie based on a subject their handler's bosses have intimate knowledge of? Slim to None, Whatsoever. What are the chances of those same producers and the handlers, oops, I mean writers, mocking the capabilities of the tech that ruins lives? 100%. Movies and t.v. shows are so overtly primal it is easy to identify the role they play in reinforcing the false narrative of those things shown to the public that are based on emotional content, almost always revealing their complicity and foreknowledge of the crimes themselves.

[Tangri]

[...]
Are there directed energy weapons that produce fireball effects? I'm trying to link this to the reports of fireballs/meteorites the night the fires began (above, post #102).
I don't know about fire balls of the solid kind (meteorites) but ball lightning (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ball_lightning) could fit in the electromagnetic spectrum of phenomena.


ball lightning?

Ball lightning is an unexplained atmospheric electrical phenomenon. The term refers to reports of luminous, spherical objects that vary from pea-sized to several meters in diameter. Though usually associated with thunderstorm, the phenomenon lasts considerably longer than the split-second flash of a lightning bolt. Many early reports claim that the ball eventually explodes, sometimes with fatal consequences, leaving behind the odor of sulfur.

When you smell sulfur, you should step back from that area.

[Tintin]

Or this one, which is more appropriate to the subject here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5DOJtITaJ-c

Thanks for posting the videos. :sun: I got through most of the second video. They spent a lot of time criticizing the people who were quick to post videos after the fires started and alleging DEWs were involved. I thought they were a little harsh and condescending, using words like "stupid" and "gullible," though I get what they are saying. A few words of caution about jumping the gun followed by their opinions at this point would have been fine. I will watch the first video tomorrow.

It was a bit of a 'love-in' for want of a better term wasn't it. However, I do agree. Normally I would, but, definitely next time: yes, a good idea to provide a line or primer like that. Maybe it isn't the best example video at this time either. Still, in as much as it warns about the 'rush to be first', from a responsible research attitude and methodology perspective (and dare I say forum or social media behaviour), is a valid point indeed.

[Joe from the Carolinas]

It seems to me that someone used wild fires as cover for a weapons test.
==============================================

I find that hypothesis very interesting.

Yes, that really reached out and kind of hit me over the head. I'd never thought of that angle. That has to be a possibility.

I was also going through the picture comparisons and I think it’s logical to think that the story of these fires could be a cover for an actual weapons attack.

Interesting that the US just announced considering putting nuke bombers on 24 hour readiness.

[Hervé]

[...]
Knowing the capabilities of a deep state to manipulate atmospheric conditions, I look at the timing when even completely natural conditions adversely affect people and property,, and ask why those machines aren't used to drastically decrease the progression of those conditions, those weather systems that do so much harm.
[...]
It seems the first amendment of the new world order constitution is Rahm Emanuel's:
“You never want a serious crisis to go to waste. And what I mean by that is an opportunity to do things that you think you could not do before.”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pb-YuhFWCr4
To wit (from here (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?92583-Denying-Global-Warming-there-is-no-pause&p=1091380&viewfull=1#post1091380)):

Groningen, zondag 6 februari 2011


Veteran weather modification expert Ben Livingston is a former Navy Physicist who briefed President Lyndon B. Johnson on the effectiveness of weather control back in the 1960's during the Vietnam era, when he was involved in cloud seeding programs that worked to slow down the advance of Vietnamese and Korean troops. Livingston asserts that hurricane control was a national priority of the government more than 40 years ago and that the technology was fully operational to control the weather at the time.


Source: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MKl9rqw1Ykw


In this exclusive interview, Livingston explains how for decades the US government has had the power to both lessen and increase the severity of adverse weather for their own purposes.


Dr. Livingston was assigned in 1966 from the Naval weapons research Laboratory to a marine fighter squadron in Vietnam. Instead of guns, the aircraft under Livingston's control were fitted with cloud seeding equipment. "My mission was to find clouds and seed them for maximum precipitation value" he stated.


Dr. Livingston presents evidence from the Stanford research Institute, who were brought into Project Storm Fury (a weather control program) in the late sixties as a third party, which stated conclusively that knowledge of how to stop hurricanes had been uncovered and that they would be directly liable should a hurricane hit and cause extensive damage and loss of life. Four decades later and Livingston exposes how the devastation caused by Hurricane Katrina could have been greatly minimized but was allowed to fully impact Gulf states for political reasons.


Having personally flown on 265 missions into the eyes of hurricanes, Livingston remarks that he was "disgusted" by the failure to lessen the impact of Katrina. Livingston's revelations that weather control has been a decades long program in which the US government has been deeply involved are particularly alarming given the abundant modern-day evidence of how chemtrails are being used to warp our environment in a secret geoengineering plot that threatens a myriad of unknown human health and ecological consequences.


**************************************************


In other words -as with false flags - any and all possible outcomes of an event (natural or induced) are run through think-tanks / computer simulations for any possible benefits/control for/of the very, very few over the rest of the planet's inhabitants.

Very simple, isn't it... the handling of any possible event is preplanned so as to be milked dry for the profit of the controllers... set that as a template applicable to all scales... then one can "re-think" the actual roles of FEMA or the Red Cross, etc...

[Hym]

Awesome Herve! Proofs make the case. Download, correlate, distribute.

I've known about the scalar EM connection to weather modification since '86 and I'm not even in a career connected to any of it, outside of all of us living in it. Curiosity feeds the truth. I talk to listen and absorb it all. In listening I hear some real world confirmations, the personal experiences of those things we should all know.

Thank You!

[waves]

....In other words -as with false flags - any and all possible outcomes of an event (natural or induced) are run through think-tanks / computer simulations for any possible benefits/control for/of the very, very few over the rest of the planet's inhabitants.....


Yes.... also all possible events during the event. Meaning....the calculations of when to generate more wind this direction if this occurs or less wind if that occurs...etc. would also have been anticipated.

So re: the Mountain Home person reporting nothing unusual just dangerous wind.... The wind was noted by many to be highly unusual, sudden and extreme and I think very likely it was a directed, engineered wind to have an excuse for the DEW targets in it's path.

[Bill Ryan]

Or this one, which is more appropriate to the subject here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5DOJtITaJ-c

Thanks for posting the videos. :sun: I got through most of the second video. They spent a lot of time criticizing the people who were quick to post videos after the fires started and alleging DEWs were involved. I thought they were a little harsh and condescending, using words like "stupid" and "gullible," though I get what they are saying. A few words of caution about jumping the gun followed by their opinions at this point would have been fine. I will watch the first video tomorrow.

It was a bit of a 'love-in' for want of a better term wasn't it. However, I do agree. Normally I would, but, definitely next time: yes, a good idea to provide a line or primer like that. Maybe it isn't the best example video at this time either. Still, in as much as it warns about the 'rush to be first', from a responsible research attitude and methodology perspective (and dare I say forum or social media behaviour), is a valid point indeed.

It was disappointing. They pretty much lumped all the videos questioning what the h*** had happened into the same category — not very scientific. :)

Some have been sensationalist, for sure. But not all of them. Some asked some very responsible, intelligent, and careful questions.

If Judy Wood wants to educate people to understand some aspects of physics better, then there's her chance... to do just that.

It's not smart, wise or kind to criticize people for asking her to comment on strange phenomena — precisely because they recognize she is an expert.

[Sunny-side-up]

I still need answers as to where did so much of the stone/brickwork go ? only dust.

[Hervé]

A possible explanation for the melted aluminum, from Jim Stone (http://www.anotherjsserver.com/zv1.html):
Nuclear magnetic resonance frequency (http://www.anotherjsserver.com/zv1.html)

This may be how the "car melting" and "wtc beam vanish" phenomenons happened
All atoms have a nuclear magnetic resonance frequency. This is a frequency the atoms of an element will resonate at if it is applied to that element.

Isotopes within an element group will have a different frequency than the base element. A chart of the frequencies for specific elements is here, (http://web.mit.edu/speclab/www/Facility/nmrfreq.html) but I doubt it is optimal because Google referred it, it is publicly posted in a police state, and conflicts with what is in my CRC handbook (https://encyclopedia.thefreedictionary.com/CRC+press).

At any rate, you can at least get an idea of what I am talking about.

If you use a transmitter to hit specific elements with a specific frequency, you can cause the atoms of that element to move a LOT more than they normally would at whatever temperature they happen to be at. And since increased temperature equals increased atomic movement, applying a frequency to an element that causes it to resonate will simulate the effects of heat, without actually getting it hot.

It is possible to cold melt elements this way if the applied frequency is strong enough.

Obviously, since the police state knows everyone has easy access to parts that could be used to build an appropriate transmitter, they want the information obscured at all costs, and the linked MIT chart contains data that would be hard to work with in real life. It is probably accurate given the conditions they state, but there are much easier numbers to work with out there.

Find an old CRC handbook from let's say 1973 and use that. There was no motivation at that time to screw people over.

Anyway, this would explain how the aluminum engines and rims melted and flowed across the ground like pancake syrup, despite the fires not being anywhere near hot enough to do it. I believe the metals were coaxed into behaving that way via an applied signal that caused them to flow without actually being very hot.
In case one tried to get to Jim's regular site (http://82.221.129.208/) without success, here is the cause:
RUNNING ON THE PRIMARY BACKUP SERVER (http://www.anotherjsserver.com/zv1.html)
The vegas files came close to maxing out the main server, so I sent the site over to this one. There are five more backup servers but where they are will remain a mystery until they are needed.

[Hervé]

From Jim Stone's Backup Server (http://www.anotherjsserver.com/zv1.html):
Supremely weird and extremely damning (http://www.anotherjsserver.com/zv1.html)

U.S. Army Corps of Engineers to rip out all foundations of homes burned in Santa Rosa Every last doubt about directed energy weapons being used to torch California just vanished. Residents who lost their homes have no choice - they must wait for the Army Corps of Engineers to rip out the foundations of their burned out homes before they can rebuild. Why would the Army Corps of Engineers have to be involved AT ALL if someone did not want them to be? Why is it not as easy as getting a sledge hammer and shovel to start over, or calling a contractor if that is how you wanted to do it?


http://www.anotherjsserver.com/latimesfires.jpg





People are not going to be allowed to do it. Instead, the Corps of Engineers is going to go through, rip everything out, and people are worried about them ripping out perfectly good foundations, rather than asking the real question:



Why are they showing up at every burned home, even if people want it done differently?

Here's a nice key question: If the corps of engineers are showing up to help, why are they only ripping things out, and not rebuilding anything? Why are they there AT ALL?

There would be no reason for them to
1. show up,

2. force their way in, even if you can pay to have someone else do it all, and

3, only destroy what is left and then leave,
No reason at all, unless their real objective is to destroy all evidence that it was directed energy weapons that destroyed many of the homes, as many people online have speculated.

They are there to perform destruction of evidence. And in doing so, they are stopping people from rebuilding, people who want to start TODAY, not after the government is all done seizing their property and doing with it what they will.

Since when is a wild fire a reason for the government to take control of your residential property inside city limits, and slow you in your recovery, when you have a contractor right there, ready to go, to rebuild it all? That is a new one, I never heard of that!

The LA times did not ask the same questions I did, but they at least make it clear what is going on if you read between the lines. SEE THIS. (http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-santa-rosa-future-20171024-story.html)

Let me be PERFECTLY CLEAR HERE: The Corps of Engineers is not wanted to be there by homeowners. The Corps of Engineers is ONLY, AND I MEAN ONLY there to rip out what was left after the fires, many of which were extraordinarily suspicious.

[Noelle]

From Jim Stone's Backup Server (http://www.anotherjsserver.com/zv1.html):
Supremely weird and extremely damning (http://www.anotherjsserver.com/zv1.html)

U.S. Army Corps of Engineers to rip out all foundations of homes burned in Santa Rosa Every last doubt about directed energy weapons being used to torch California just vanished. Residents who lost their homes have no choice - they must wait for the Army Corps of Engineers to rip out the foundations of their burned out homes before they can rebuild. Why would the Army Corps of Engineers have to be involved AT ALL if someone did not want them to be? Why is it not as easy as getting a sledge hammer and shovel to start over, or calling a contractor if that is how you wanted to do it?


http://www.anotherjsserver.com/latimesfires.jpg





People are not going to be allowed to do it. Instead, the Corps of Engineers is going to go through, rip everything out, and people are worried about them ripping out perfectly good foundations, rather than asking the real question:



Why are they showing up at every burned home, even if people want it done differently?

Here's a nice key question: If the corps of engineers are showing up to help, why are they only ripping things out, and not rebuilding anything? Why are they there AT ALL?

There would be no reason for them to
1. show up,

2. force their way in, even if you can pay to have someone else do it all, and

3, only destroy what is left and then leave,
No reason at all, unless their real objective is to destroy all evidence that it was directed energy weapons that destroyed many of the homes, as many people online have speculated.

They are there to perform destruction of evidence. And in doing so, they are stopping people from rebuilding, people who want to start TODAY, not after the government is all done seizing their property and doing with it what they will.

Since when is a wild fire a reason for the government to take control of your residential property inside city limits, and slow you in your recovery, when you have a contractor right there, ready to go, to rebuild it all? That is a new one, I never heard of that!

The LA times did not ask the same questions I did, but they at least make it clear what is going on if you read between the lines. SEE THIS. (http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-santa-rosa-future-20171024-story.html)

Let me be PERFECTLY CLEAR HERE: The Corps of Engineers is not wanted to be there by homeowners. The Corps of Engineers is ONLY, AND I MEAN ONLY there to rip out what was left after the fires, many of which were extraordinarily suspicious.

I wonder if many will be indirectly forced to relocate, with the Corps involved now and the time that it will take to clean up. The article notes that housing was in demand before the fires. And those whose houses were not destroyed, what will it do to the property values, being surrounded by devastation?

[waves]

From Jim Stone's Backup Server (http://www.anotherjsserver.com/zv1.html):Supremely weird and extremely damning (http://www.anotherjsserver.com/zv1.html)

U.S. Army Corps of Engineers to rip out all foundations of homes burned in Santa Rosa Every last doubt about directed energy weapons being used to torch California just vanished.

Is Jim saying the Army Corps of Engineers are using ripping out the foundations as an excuse to gain first deep access to the property and remove other evidence, or that the foundations themselves hold some damning evidence or both?

added: FYI, Jim's links to the LA Times are misleading. None originated with the LA Times itself, their article is a word for word reprint from the local Santa Rosa Press Democrat.

[TargeT]

Why would the Army Corps of Engineers have to be involved AT ALL if someone did not want them to be?

Because it's a federally recognized "major disaster" (POTUS declared it... lots of things happen once that happens), and honestly "building code" is only loosely followed and highly dependent on the inspection process... with wide spread massive failures such as on my island, or in these fires a lot of the "building code" adherence is being brought into question. The Corp doesn't make money by cutting corners like contractors do.

We have a lot of the same things happening here, but it's centered around roof rebuilds.

I don't see this as much evidence of anything... well maybe evidence that the federal government doesn't trust the local governments inspection process.

[Orph]

Why would the Army Corps of Engineers have to be involved AT ALL if someone did not want them to be?

I don't see this as much evidence of anything... Hmmmmmmmmmm. I don't agree with you on that. I live in southern California, and we get wildfires every year. Obviously, some years are worse than others. We've had many, many times when wildfires totally destroy neighborhoods and homes. And in all the years, and all the fires, not once, EVER, have I heard of the Army Corps of Engineers coming in and cleaning things up. Doesn't happen. We've never had the National Guard come in and put a neighborhood on lockdown either. And if it's true that people who lived there are told not to touch anything of their destroyed property?????

So no, I don't agree that this is "business as usual". And if it is all on the up-and-up, why can't they (the military and the government types), show some transparency. Maybe there is truly nothing "sinister" going on here. But I'm not willing to believe that.

[bluestflame]

don't forget agenda 2030 ( ignore the bit about trump in the header ) mYIgk56wWF4

[TargeT]

. And in all the years, and all the fires, not once, EVER, have I heard of the Army Corps of Engineers coming in and cleaning things up. Doesn't happen. We've never had the National Guard come in and put a neighborhood on lockdown either.

how many were declared federal disasters?

If it was declared a disaster at the federal level this type of thing will happen every time; they are putting a LOT of money out during these times and try very hard to ensure it goes where it's needed.

This can cause weird actions like in California.

Here we were told not to clean up parks because it would interfere with the insurance and recovery funding if it was done before inspectors could do their thing.


So no, I don't agree that this is "business as usual". And if it is all on the up-and-up, why can't they (the military and the government types), show some transparency. Maybe there is truly nothing "sinister" going on here. But I'm not willing to believe that.

It's not business as usual, but it's certainly not uncommon, Cali has had 250 disasters declared since 1953 (http://www.sacbee.com/site-services/databases/article133246624.html).


And if it is all on the up-and-up, why can't they (the military and the government types), show some transparency. Maybe there is truly nothing "sinister" going on here. But I'm not willing to believe that.

The military and government are both huge bureaucracies, half the time one department isn't aware of what another is doing, there's conflicts all the time and even when you are "in it" it's hard to answer questions outside of your specific field.


A lot of this can look suspicious, but usually it's just boring when all the details come together.

[Orph]

If it was declared a disaster at the federal level this type of thing will happen every time;

It's not business as usual, but it's certainly not uncommon,

But that was the point of my post. It doesn't happen every time. In fact, it never happens. We have wildfires here every year. Houses and structures burn. Sometimes entire neighborhoods burn. As much so or more than what happened up north. And we've never had the A.C. of E. show up. Nor the Nat. Guard either. Federal disaster or not, these actions are not normal.

[Noelle]

If it was declared a disaster at the federal level this type of thing will happen every time;

It's not business as usual, but it's certainly not uncommon,

But that was the point of my post. It doesn't happen every time. In fact, it never happens. We have wildfires here every year. Houses and structures burn. Sometimes entire neighborhoods burn. As much so or more than what happened up north. And we've never had the A.C. of E. show up. Nor the Nat. Guard either. Federal disaster or not, these actions are not normal.

We received National Guard help during Hurricane Irma and maybe Hurricane Floyd too. Maybe Army Corps was here but I did not know about it because I had no access to the news for about a week. But the two other disasters that I lived through in Central Florida -- the "historic" wildfires of 1998 and the tornado outbreak in 1998, one of the state's deadliest -- I don't recall the presence of National Guard or Army Corps.

[waves]

Here comes the drip by drip priming of locals who lost everything with Agenda 21/2030 concepts right before they're all going to be hit with unexpected limitations and expenses in rebuilding along with their grossly inadequate insurance payouts.

Is this what a non-profit org that's a glossy looking front for Agenda 21/2030 looks like?
http://www.postcarbon.org/fellows/
http://www.postcarbon.org/about-us/

Suddenly appearing in our extreme leftist weekly free paper is this article from someone from it: https://www.bohemian.com/northbay/up-to-code/Content?oid=4294278

Up to Code
Rebuilding for resilience in the face of future disasters
BY RICHARD HEINBERG

.....Since so many threats cluster around climate change, it makes sense to rebuild so as not to exacerbate global warming. Sonoma County could take a cue from Greensburg, Kan., a town devastated by a category five tornado in 2007. Greensburg decided to rebuild as "the greenest town in America," with renewable energy and LEED-certified municipal buildings.

Crisis can be an opportunity, if we choose to see it that way.

Richard Heinberg is senior fellow at the Post Carbon Institute and a contributor to 'The 'Community Resilience Reader.'

[Orph]

We received National Guard help during Hurricane Irma and maybe Hurricane Floyd too. Maybe Army Corps was here but I did not know about it because I had no access to the news for about a week. But the two other disasters that I lived through in Central Florida -- the "historic" wildfires of 1998 and the tornado outbreak in 1998, one of the state's deadliest -- I don't recall the presence of National Guard or Army Corps.Yes, but I'm referring to two things specifically: 1) Having the Army Corp of Engineers come in and do a clean-up after a wildfire. 2) Having the National Guard come in and do a lock-down on a specific neighborhood after a wildfire. I've never seen that happen before in the case of wildfires. And we get multiple wildfires here every year.

Yes, the National Guard does help in relief and rescue efforts in times of floods, hurricanes, fires and other disasters. (or riots). And, at times, the Nat. Guard does secure neighborhoods from looting. But what is happening up in Santa Rosa needs to be questioned. Just like the Las Vegas shootings need to be questioned, and 9-11, and Sandy Hook, and ....................

[TargeT]

IMO: Army corp of engineers isn't in there doing clean up, they are managing it, and they aren't bringing in bulldozers painted black, the clean up will be very transparent and done by local contractors.


Tests have shown that the concrete is typically unsound following a fire and the soil beneath it often contaminated....A fact sheet prepared jointly by the city of Santa Rosa and Sonoma County handed out at the meeting stated even if the foundation is structurally sound, “there is a risk of exposure to toxins if you choose not to remove it.”

Homeowners who opt out of the program and save their foundations “will be required to meet approved standards” to ensure the integrity of the concrete, the fact sheet said.
http://www.pressdemocrat.com/news/7567721-181/santa-rosa-community-meeting-focuses

Sounds like it's voluntary also (though highly encouraged)...

Looks more and more like normal operations, I don't see anything suspicious at all actually.

[waves]

I think fellow local aplanetruth is doing some really good work. He jumps the gun a little here and there, but is doing a very good job of putting pieces of the puzzle on the table and asking good questions. FYI, he apparently is also aplaintruth, saying he had to create a second for when the main account is sent temporarily to two-week 'youtube jail'.


What are the chances that 3 of the largest avionics military laser companies are located in Santa Rosa, CA?
https://www.l3t.com/products-services/capabilities
http://www.keysight.com/main/home.jspx?cc=US&lc=eng
http://aegindustries.com/

L-3 technologies, Keysight, AEG Industries and Sonoma Design Group are all in Santa Rosa and are held by some of the largest weapons manufactures in the world!

Additionally, over two weeks now, and no official 'story' about how so many fires self ignited all at once in the middle of the dark of night.

5G? Pacific Gas and Electric? Climate Change w/ Diablo Winds? are all being talked about but none come close to explain the hellfires that occurred and torched metal, glass, rubber, granite, etc. to the ground in minutes, yet left trees and other buildings in tact.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tnYj8DKP9ik

[Hervé]

...


https://si.wsj.net/public/resources/images/BN-VM658_CAFIRE_P_20171009150155.jpg


http://media.graytvinc.com/images/ABC_california_brush_fire_02_jef_150717_16x9_992[1].jpg


http://cdn.cnn.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/171013072251-04-ca-fires-wine-1010-exlarge-169.jpg

https://cdn.theatlantic.com/assets/media/img/photo/2017/06/deadly-wildfires-in-portugal/p12_697404800/main_900.jpg?1497891997


https://cdn4.img.sputniknews.com/images/105815/64/1058156460.jpg

https://www.usnews.com/dims4/USNEWS/0f8c16e/2147483647/resize/1200x%3E/quality/85/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fmedia.beam.usnews.com%2Fa6%2F34%2F302168f244b099842fb70e7b090b%2F171012-wildfire16-editorial.jpg




Portugal:


http://www.mercurynews.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/06/aptopix-portugal-forest_2.jpg?w=620


http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2017/06/18/17/4184457D00000578-4614930-Police_investigators_stand_by_a_burnt_car_on_the_road_between_Ca-a-4_1497802437276.jpg


https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/images/ic/1024x576/p056cfjl.jpg

[Eric J (Viking)]

Thanks Herve... I have noticed that the second 'Portugal' picture shows the alloy wheels still intact... Not molten metal. In most of the Californian fires the alloy wheels were molten. Draw your own conclusions folks...

Viking

[Hervé]

Something's not quite right with the global picture:

European wildfire numbers explode in 2017: Season average for hectares burned increases four or five-fold (http://www.euronews.com/2017/10/16/how-europe-s-wildfires-have-more-than-trebled-in-2017)

Chris Harris Euronews (http://www.euronews.com/2017/10/16/how-europe-s-wildfires-have-more-than-trebled-in-2017)
Sun, 29 Oct 2017 22:27 UTC


https://www.sott.net/image/s21/428165/medium/684x384_378927.jpg (https://www.sott.net/image/s21/428165/full/684x384_378927.jpg)


The number of forest fires in the EU has more than doubled so far this year, according to figures obtained by Euronews, affecting an area twice the size of Luxembourg.

There have been 1,671 blazes so far in 2017 - a huge increase on the 639 the bloc saw annually on average over the previous eight years.

Experts have blamed climate change for the rise, saying it has extended the traditional wildfire season and increased the frequency of blazes.

They have warned Europe's forest fires will rage more often in the future and engulf new areas.

Portugal, Italy and Croatia have all been hit this summer amid high temperatures and lower-than-normal rainfall.
SOTT Comment: (https://www.sott.net/article/365833-European-wildfire-numbers-explode-in-2017-Season-average-for-hectares-burned-increases-four-or-five-fold) But other parts of Europe have been hit with the reverse: low temperatures and above-normal rainfall, yet wildfires rage there too. Even Greenland (http://www.independent.co.uk/environment/greenland-wildfire-largest-on-record-scientists-report-a7883951.html)! This is a snapshot from mid-October:




https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/731050591372357632/E_IiyLhf_normal.jpg Maxime Combes @MaximCombes (https://twitter.com/MaximCombes)


View image on Twitter
(https://twitter.com/MaximCombes/status/919874790277746688/photo/1)

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DMQMQ-uWkAAsdpA.jpg:small (https://twitter.com/MaximCombes/status/919874790277746688/photo/1)



Voici la carte des départs de feu de ces derniers jours - pourtour méditerranéen

Pas un hasard
On est à + 10º C d'un mois d'octobre "normal"
12:36 PM - Oct 16, 2017 (https://twitter.com/MaximCombes/status/919874790277746688)
It comes after 64 people died in a forest fire in Portugal (http://www.euronews.com/2017/06/23/scorched-aftermath-of-deadly-portuguese-widlfires), with many victims caught in their cars as they tried to flee in June.

Despite average summer temperatures and a cold spring, wildfires exploded in Europe this year


https://www.sott.net/image/s21/428166/large/EU_wildfires.jpg (https://www.sott.net/image/s21/428166/full/EU_wildfires.jpg)

Despite average summer temperatures and a cold spring, wildfires exploded in Europe this year [2017 > (2008-2016) x 4]


Starting earlier, burning longer
Thomas Curt, a researcher at the National Research Institute of Science and Technology for Environment and Agriculture, said global warming was a factor in Portugal's deadly fire and that climate change had extended the wildfire season from two to up to five months (http://www.euronews.com/2017/06/18/what-impact-did-climate-change-have-in-portugal-s-deadly-wildfire).

Alexander Held, a senior expert at the European Forest Institute, backed Curt's claim saying fires were starting earlier and burning for longer.

"We will see a lot more surprises and fires burning in places that don't have a fire history," Held told Euronews. "Spain burns, yes, but it's not a surprise.

"We'll see more fires and more intense fires in the Mediterranean and new fire situations in countries that don't really expect it."
SOTT Comment: (https://www.sott.net/article/365833-European-wildfire-numbers-explode-in-2017-Season-average-for-hectares-burned-increases-four-or-five-fold) Either this man has amazing powers of prognostication or... a clear pattern of ever-increasing wildfires is emerging.
Held said Germany, the Netherlands, Denmark, Austria and Switzerland could be among the countries who see more wildfires than they are used to.

Last year a study led by the University of Leicester revealed Catalonia, Madrid and Valencia as the European areas most at risk of wildfires threatening people (http://www2.le.ac.uk/offices/press/press-releases/2016/march/wildfire-map-reveals-countries-in-europe-most-at-risk-of-catastrophic-fire-damage).


Ed6PTKGhif8

'Invest in prevention'
"I would say it's the weather and weather is the short-term of climate. We do have these more extreme weather situations more often, so this is climate change," Held continued.

"But it's a very welcome excuse to say it's climate change. It gives you a nice way out to say it's climate change."

Held, a forester and a fire specialist, called for more to be done to prevent fires by managing the land better.

He said the land hit in Portugal's deadly fire last month was owned by forestry companies who had no incentive to limit their profits by putting in fire breaks.

https://www.sott.net/image/s21/428170/large/EU_wildfires_2.jpg (https://www.sott.net/image/s21/428170/full/EU_wildfires_2.jpg)

Scientists and meteorologists have never seen anything like it.


Wildfire politics
"There's nobody on a European level to say yes we need helicopters and the fire service but let's take 10 percent of the firefighting budget and invest that in strategic vegetation management," he said.

"Firefighting is expensive, with all the vehicles and aerial resources. It would be a fraction of this budget to invest in managing the land.

"Or compensate a landowner if he is cutting fire breaks or providing better access to his land or if he does a risk analysis.

"At the moment this is very neglected. The reality is firefighting is very political and business-driven, especially with helicopters and aircraft.

"As a politician if you order more helicopters you are seen as a very active politician but if you invest in clearing land, no-one from the media will show any interest in your prevention work."

Listen to the full interview with Alexander Held:


[audio interview: https://audioboom.com/posts/6120598-how-europe-s-wildfires-are-set-to-get-worse?t=0]


Related:
Deadly wildfires sweep across Portugal and northern Spain killing at least 39 (UPDATE) (https://www.sott.net/article/364565-Deadly-wildfires-sweep-across-Portugal-and-northern-Spain-killing-at-least-39-UPDATE)

The growing threat of underground fires and explosions (https://www.sott.net/article/326079-SOTT-Exclusive-The-growing-threat-of-underground-fires-and-explosions#)

[Michelle Marie]

Reader comments at the bottom of this article that he has no doubt that the crap sprayed into the air is the main contributor to all these fires.

European wildfire numbers explode in 2017:...

https://www.sott.net/article/365833-European-wildfire-numbers-explode-in-2017-Season-average-for-hectares-burned-increases-four-or-five-fold

MM

[waves]

Here's quite the easy to follow, graphic education in the evolution of DEWS, lasers and microwave weapons from the History Channel, 2015. You have to endure the conscienceless verbage proudly describing 'getting the per-kill cost down to $3,000'.

But the parallels to Santa Rosa are plentiful, and I think one smoking gun is the descriptions of circuitry disabling considering the disabling of circuitry of every kind at the Silverado Hotel that was one of the first things that happened - all regular electrical, backup generators AND battery operated lights.

31:40
"A blast of microwaves will tripper a shockwave of electrical pulses that will race thru the air generating a power surge that knocks out circuits."

34:56 (re: Electromagnetic Bombs)
"An E-Bomb could strike with deadly accuracy. The thing about this kind of EMF weapon is that it scales very easily. Yes, you could use something that could be like a bomb and set it off over a city if you're trying to take out an entire city. But you could do much smaller sorts of devices that would have a much more limited range. So you could take out a particular neighborhood..."


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ug4HMkiH3-E&t=173s

[Sunny]

This is an article about the ash from the California wildfires being toxic:

Wired magazine, "After the Napa Fires, a Disaster-In-Waiting: Toxic Ash" : https://www.wired.com/story/napa-fire-ash/

That's what I remember when my friends in Lake County moved back into their home after the Valley Fire. They said it was a very toxic environment. Everyone had to have their properties cleaned up professionally.

[bluestflame]

dunno if this has been posted but further info linking it to agenda 21 BTmQwS-GoAQ

and further linked ? eDBvClEwJ6E

[Noelle]

This is an article about the ash from the California wildfires being toxic:

Wired magazine, "After the Napa Fires, a Disaster-In-Waiting: Toxic Ash" : https://www.wired.com/story/napa-fire-ash/

That's what I remember when my friends in Lake County moved back into their home after the Valley Fire. They said it was a very toxic environment. Everyone had to have their properties cleaned up professionally.

In older forested land that hasn’t burned in decades, pollution may have deposited heavy metals like copper, lead, aluminum, arsenic, and even mercury onto the plants.

I wonder how much aluminum they will find.

[waves]

The blame it on global warming shills.

https://s1.postimg.org/4q2ak7gi7z/newscasters_comp.jpg

[Noelle]

WeatherWar101 has produced many videos throughout the years that show and tell how most of our weather may be nearly entirely engineered -- storm fronts, tropical systems, winds, etc -- and has been for about 50 years. I have only seen about a dozen of the videos thus far.

Although he does not suggest a cause, he does not believe the northern California fires were started by downed power lines or "space-based" DEWs. He does say they were "deliberately" and "strategically" set, like many fires, including the historic fires that erupted in British Columbia in 2016, to produce smoke, which provides carbon to form the cloud condensation nuclei needed for storm systems.

Here are his two videos on the fires, each less than 15 mins. long.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8EtHBglnp8w&t=390s


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TdobZy7PN6A

[Foxie Loxie]

Thanks, LadyM, for the videos.....are we talking about drones or satellites beaming something down for these "simultaneous" fires? It's all so sad. Are people REALLY being "herded" into the Agenda 21 program...is that what is going on?!! :confused:

[Noelle]

Thanks, LadyM, for the videos.....are we talking about drones or satellites beaming something down for these "simultaneous" fires? It's all so sad. Are people REALLY being "herded" into the Agenda 21 program...is that what is going on?!! :confused:

In the summary section of his video, WeatherWar101 wrote, in so many words, "space-based" DEWs don't make sense because of the expense -- it is easier and cheaper to ignite fires with people and matches, though he did not mean that is how they started. He just does not go there -- yet -- instead he looks at the unnatural weather conditions that stoked and help expand the fires as well as the why they were started (the weather engineers need carbon/CCN to created storm systems). It's a wild theory, I know.

[Noelle]

I am not sure what to make of this, with eyes not trained in laser technology or video hoaxes. The video, published yesterday by aplaintruth on YouTube, shows video clips of blue laser lights in the fire area, recorded supposedly by people on the ground there. It also goes into the winds that came out of no where after the fires started.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AS4FUtpZ6vA

[Mark (Star Mariner)]

It's a bit premature to call it 'proof', but it is interesting. If there were some nefarious agenda or weapon used to torch this particular area, it's still hard to know/understand who was doing it, or...why?!

[waves]

It's a bit premature to call it 'proof', but it is interesting. If there were some nefarious agenda or weapon used to torch this particular area, it's still hard to know/understand who was doing it, or...why?!

I agree the question of why needs emphasis. The neighborhoods erased were not in the least poor or in neglect and even included Santa Rosa's entire millionaire mountain. If it turns out nefarious and I think it is, it would be a new concept to the alt community that the rich aren't immune from getting their lives bombed too.

Whoever ultimately benefits will be the why, right? Land grabbing in the name of something else is first on my watchlist. Maybe also the rebuild as some Agenda 2030 'sustainability' example, but I don't think that much attention is going to be paid to us and that issue after the so many years it's going to take to get it done.

But yes, it's a mind boggling amount of high tech destruction aimed at this somewhat sleepy, stable farming/wine country location... who's real estate was skyrocketing.

One coincidence is that a long time coming commuter 'smart' train that goes right thru the Coffey neighborhood finally just opened for business 6 or so weeks before this and now the entire neighborhood needs to be rebuilt from scratch.

I think there's something new to learn here, I don't know what it is yet.

[ThePythonicCow]

Thanks, LadyM, for the videos.....are we talking about drones or satellites beaming something down for these "simultaneous" fires? It's all so sad. Are people REALLY being "herded" into the Agenda 21 program...is that what is going on?!! :confused:

In the summary section of his video, WeatherWar101 wrote, in so many words, "space-based" DEWs don't make sense because of the expense -- it is easier and cheaper to ignite fires with people and matches, though he did not mean that is how they started. He just does not go there -- yet -- instead he looks at the unnatural weather conditions that stoked and help expand the fires as well as the why they were started (the weather engineers need carbon/CCN to created storm systems). It's a wild theory, I know.

The US Military has combat aircraft with high powered lasers that can be directed at targets.

Here's one of them for example:
https://www.nextbigfuture.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/12/hiw_laser_485-1.jpg?x71037

[DNA]

It's a bit premature to call it 'proof', but it is interesting. If there were some nefarious agenda or weapon used to torch this particular area, it's still hard to know/understand who was doing it, or...why?!

I agree the question of why needs emphasis. The neighborhoods erased were not in the least poor or in neglect and even included Santa Rosa's entire millionaire mountain. If it turns out nefarious and I think it is, it would be a new concept to the alt community that the rich aren't immune from getting their lives bombed too.

Whoever ultimately benefits will be the why, right? Land grabbing in the name of something else is first on my watchlist. Maybe also the rebuild as some Agenda 2030 'sustainability' example, but I don't think that much attention is going to be paid to us and that issue after the so many years it's going to take to get it done.

But yes, it's a mind boggling amount of high tech destruction aimed at this somewhat sleepy, stable farming/wine country location... who's real estate was skyrocketing.

One coincidence is that a long time coming commuter 'smart' train that goes right thru the Coffey neighborhood finally just opened for business 6 or so weeks before this and now the entire neighborhood needs to be rebuilt from scratch.

I think there's something new to learn here, I don't know what it is yet.


Hurricanes and large disasters bleed insurance companies and pump money into the economy when the rebuild takes place.
No news there.
Some say this is an attempt to push the climate change agenda and force Trump back to the negotiating tables and in fact that may be what is going on here.
A double edged sword, proving climate change to the masses with one edge and threatening Trump by letting him know what is really taking place and threatening him with more targets if he does not comply.

[Foxie Loxie]

Thanks, DNA & Paul! It's all rather "much" for one to wrap one's head around & it helps to have brighter minds than mine weigh in on the subject! :facepalm:

[Michelle Marie]

The last two pertain to the Califorina wildfires and compares Agenda 21 maps to maps of fire locations. Interesting!

Weather Warfare

Pt 1
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=8WQPWwdRXsI

Pt 2
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=XkDduREadeI

Pt 3
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=XkDduREadeI

Pt 4
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=H1VMxBj3x88

Pt 5
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Z9XD-P5Zv2A

Pt 6
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Z9XD-P5Zv2Am


MM

[Frenchy]

Orph has a good insight, however, responding to Hervé (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?100187-Deadly-unusual-wildfires-in-California-as-well-as-worldwide&p=1187190&viewfull=1#post1187190) and Lady ( http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?100187-Deadly-unusual-wildfires-in-California-as-well-as-worldwide&p=1187192&viewfull=1#post1187192), might I offer the supposition that the only reason for making the site a ' Restricted area ' ; ( Coffey Park [ & poss. others ], having the Military come in to ' Clean - up ', is simply that; to clean - up the evidence that there is NO Concrete foundation remaining, to remove ...

If this is like " Dustification ", or John Hutchinsons work on " Molecular Dis - association ", then, like all the ' Sink - holes ', those foundations, have been vapourised.....

Has no one wondered WHY these sink holes line - up , with Culverts, Strategic ' path -ways ', or Property boundaries ? Could it be that some Milab ( Desert Storm ' Military Kid ' ) simply is playing with Google Earth,

Please excuse the use of 'Kid', I do mean this disparigingly...

[Noelle]

Thanks for the video links, Michelle Marie. If it was caused by a directed energy weapon, is there such a weapon that could ignite so many fires, spread out over at least 300 square miles, simultaneously as well as stir up high winds? As the video shows in post #153 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8EtHBglnp8w), the winds started very quickly, as or right after the fires started. Also, the same video, a WeatherWar101 video, shows satellite imagery of when the fires started, the order in which they started. It starts at 4:42 min. Is there anything in that order to support DEW theory?

[KiwiElf]

Related from dahboo7 (possibly!)

Massive Wave Anomaly Coming from US Gulf Cost Region

Published on Nov 4, 2017

We have caught yet another massive wave anomaly on MIMIC Map. This time it seems to be coming from the US region of the Gulf of Mexico. The wave stretches down toward Ascension Island. As I get more info on this I will update via twitter. If you have anything you want me to report, let me know at dahboo7@yahoo.com.

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[Michelle Marie]

Military lockdown and other observations...

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Buildings burnt but trees still standing

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Microwave fires:

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Researchers of evidence are still trying to put pieces together.

MM

[waves]

REQUEST to researchers to be on the lookout:

I request that researchers please stay on the lookout for any videos, posts, tweets or comments of any kind that make reference to the electrical outages at the Silverado Hotel in Napa, including anything about 'Safeway Open golfers having to jump out of windows to escape'. This was first reported as happening in the time somewhat close to before or after midnight that coincided with the first reports of a starting fire that night.

Confirming that 'circuits of backup generators as well as battery operated hall lights failed all at once' would be some big smoking gun evidence of an initial microwave blast. I've seen two unrelated references to this ocurrance in the first week but the story disappeared and/or got buried pretty quickly since.

Thank you very much in advance.

[Noelle]

I found this satellite imagery that shows NEXRAD reflectivity on October 8, 2017, 3 pm to October 9, 2017, 3 pm., which includes 9 pm to 11 pm, when the fires broke out. Note that NEXRAD "operates in the 2-3GHz spectrum @ 750,000 watts," according to Dutchsinse.com (https://www.dutchsinse.com/6182013-radar-used-to-transmit-power-to-distant-rectenna-nasa-experiment-success/).

NEXRAD imagery, Oct. 8-9 (http://www.pauljhurtado.com/US_Composite_Radar/2017-10-8/) (You can click "play" or go frame by frame through it.)

NEXRAD location map (https://www.roc.noaa.gov/WSR88D/PublicDocs/WSR-88DCONUSCoverage2011.pdf)

[waves]

More good dot connecting from Truth By Grace/aplanetruth

From mental_boost videos and others, she's picking on what could be the first stages of a good argument for a technology ready to go in cell towers that bypasses the need for lasers or DEWs from the sky. I would add, I still suspect there's going to be a connection to Smart Meters.

In brief, the targeting, the odd ignition/burning patterns, the extreme localized heat and intact trees anomalies could be explained by this theory. Microwave energy can be used to create combustion by altering the frequency of metals, "which increases oxidation reduction which will thereby produce the oxidizing agents which will fuel the fire."

In other words, this kind of microwaving keeps producing it's own fuel and fire as it molecularly changes the object, and it continues until the object is ash and out of anything to change into fuel. (I think I got that right). It's a more sophisticated application of the same concept as your home microwave of why metals enflame and organic material and plastic do not.

This would account for all the entire houses turned to ash and it makes all cell towers the Directed Energy Weapons.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7UkiOYCX-Js

[bluestflame]

can see why they are keen to upgrade to 5g network frantically

[Noelle]

More good dot connecting from Truth By Grace/aplanetruth

From mental_boost videos and others, she's picking on what could be the first stages of a good argument for a technology ready to go in cell towers that bypasses the need for lasers or DEWs from the sky. I would add, I still suspect there's going to be a connection to Smart Meters.

In brief, the targeting, the odd ignition/burning patterns, the extreme localized heat and intact trees anomalies could be explained by this theory. Microwave energy can be used to create combustion by altering the frequency of metals, "which increases oxidation reduction which will thereby produce the oxidizing agents which will fuel the fire."

In other words, this kind of microwaving keeps producing it's own fuel and fire as it molecularly changes the object, and it continues until the object is ash and out of anything to change into fuel. (I think I got that right). It's a more sophisticated application of the same concept as your home microwave of why metals enflame and organic material and plastic do not.

This would account for all the entire houses turned to ash and it makes all cell towers the Directed Energy Weapons.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7UkiOYCX-Js

Thanks for the video. The first question that popped out at me while watching it is: Who owns the cell towers? It's communication companies, not the military industrial complex. The NEXRAD (WSR-88D) radar stations, in my opinion, may be more suspect than the cell towers. The microwave pulses that they emit are far more powerful than what the cell towers emit. And NEXRAD, operated by NOAA/National Weather Service, has dual-polarization, allowing it to emit vertically and horizontally.

[Arcturian108]

Here's a video explaining how three DEW companies located right amidst the Santa Rosa fires were untouched by any fire:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3YmTn-40K0Y&feature=youtu.be

[Michelle Marie]

This video ties in the use of vaccines for a Hepatitus A outbreak...

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More dot connecting.

MM

[Eric J (Viking)]

VENTURA COUNTY, Calif. -- A destructive, wind-driven brush fire continued to rage in Ventura County Tuesday night, threatening more than 12,000 structures as it grew to 55,000 acres after jumping the heavily-traveled 101 Freeway, authorities said.

Click below for further details...just seems to be getting worse...

http://fox5sandiego.com/2017/12/04/fast-moving-brush-fire-burns-100-acres-in-ventura-county/

Viking

[Foxie Loxie]

Wonder if there are any signs of DEW's on this occasion? One feels so deeply for those who are losing their homes! :facepalm:

[Michelle Marie]

Wonder if there are any signs of DEW's on this occasion? One feels so deeply for those who are losing their homes! :facepalm:

I'm sure with the anomalies of the last CA fires, that will be questioned.

High winds again.

DEW again?
https://tabublog.com/2017/12/05/dew-again-southern-california-fire-forces-thousands-to-flee-homes/

4 fires: Skirball, Creek, Thomas, and Rye.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=AyrzffkD69I

MM

[Noelle]

WeatherWar101 has done two videos (10 mins. or less) on these latest fires. He does, as he did with the No. Calif. fires, point to the fires, which he calls "insta fires," creating cloud condensation nuclei needed by the man-made weather system.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EffGk6iIh7s


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H5wbN-0MqhA

[3(C)+me]

I look out to the north and I see a big while plum of smoke mixed in with dark/red colors coming from Santa Paula, I look to the south, another dusty white looking sky, over the ocean just more smoke, smoke everywhere, and the winds come and go.
Very surreal.

[Michelle Marie]

Same narrative! It's all because of the wind...

Let's find more...

"Melting stone and steel."

[Hervé]

From Jim Stone (http://82.221.129.208/.zq2.html):
Bel Air is on fire (http://82.221.129.208/.zq2.html)
The media is not reporting this, but countless fires have been set by arsonists in the L.A. area. If the media is not giving a hint as to who, it is probably either politically motivated or advanced weapons systems. Take your pick, it is certain with this many that it is not cigarette butts and hot mufflers. Witnesses in the area have also stated the fires are not near any homeless encampments so it is not the homeless doing this.

This morning, someone started a fire that swept into the Bel Air neighborhood at around 9 AM and subsequently burned (and is still burning) multi million dollar mansions. Bel Air has been evacuated and may be wiped out. The fires currently happening in Los Angeles are not legitimate wildfires, many are speculating they are for agenda 21 type reasons.

At this point, it would probably be a good idea for anyone near the woods in LA to pack all the most important valuables, there may not be a fire near your home right now, but with them being intentionally set that could change in minutes.

From a reader:
"What is the first thing I see??? A REPORTER SHOWING A TOASTED CAR WITH FLOWING MOLTEN METAL COMING OUT OF IT. They must have updated the laws of physics, because the last time I checked, Aluminum melts at 1, 220F, Steel at 2, 500F, and wood burns at 700-1, 100F based on how much air exposure it has. So either the woods of California have turned into a blow-furnace with consistent 200 mph winds, or something is seriously amiss."
My [Jim Stone's] comment: I have seen camp fires burn hot enough to melt thin aluminum cans, but only if the fires are very large and hot. But I have not seen a camp fire hot enough to melt anything like an aluminum T-fal fry pan. I have also not seen any car fire consume the rims. Since these cars are not stuffed into a giant camp fire, and instead are sitting away from any combustible materials other than the car itself, it is not rational to have rims and engine blocks melting like this, especially since the engine blocks have coolant in them that would have to vaporize first.


There is one oddity in the automotive business that results in serious melting of metal during a car fire, And it is the Ford trucks that have an aluminum chassis. When those catch fire, they vanish. BUT WHEN THE BODY, WHICH IS THIN VANISHES, THE ALUMINUM RIMS, WHICH ARE THICK CAN HAVE THE TIRES BURN COMPLETELY OFF OF THEM, AND THEY ARE STILL THERE. Tire fires are nasty. The rims should be gone if it was normal in a car fire. Why is the melted metal/vanishing rims a phenomenon of just these forest fires?

[FreeURmind]

Sorry if this was already mentioned. I skimmed the thread.

Fort McMurray in Alberta Canada had a fire of similar images. Melted cars, burned homes, green grass, one house burnt to a cris, thr neighbour's are fine. Interesting thing about this small Northern town. Oilsands and Uranium. This fire was HUGE! Except nobody can find the entrance to the community it torched.

https://goo.gl/images/bjgH3D
https://goo.gl/images/AJLVLi

Cali and this canadian fire resemble alot of 9/11.










Check out omnisense thread

[Noelle]

I saw this tweet (https://twitter.com/LizCrokin/status/938455480350863361) tonight. Anything out there to support the claims made about the Getty Center?

LIZ THE 🌪IS HERE ‼️ 🍕‏Verified account
@LizCrokin
Follow Follow @LizCrokin

Fires raging by the Getty Center where there's underground facilities many claim are used to traffic children as sex slaves!

[Hervé]

Firestorm albedo grows, Shishaldin volcano alert, native American wisdom (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-XOpf0xQ_FE)

Oppenheimer Ranch Project
You Tube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-XOpf0xQ_FE)
Wed, 06 Dec 2017 13:44 UTC


https://www.sott.net/image/s21/437520/large/southern_california_wildfires_.jpg (https://www.sott.net/image/s21/437520/full/southern_california_wildfires_.jpg)

SoCal Wildfires: Los Angeles, Ventura declare state of emergency as 200 000 evacuate.


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[pyrangello]

Reports this morning , possible 80 mph winds (santa anna) blowing east to west and some instances where fire explodes and travels a football field in 1 second. Lots of prayers needed.

[Rocky_Shorz]

Hey, I'm in the Mandatory Evacuated Zone...

I'm staying, I'll let you know when it gets exciting... shhh

[Rocky_Shorz]

We never have Santa Anna winds in December, but 80 mph gusts makes it far beyond normal, smoke was eye watering thick, I stepped out into it and called on God, Thor, the Holy Spirit hoping someone was listening...

I took a deep breath and pushed back and the wind changed, smoke blowing away, then dropping to 9, then blowing in from the ocean...

Now of course it must be a coincidence, but it did feel good seeing a prayer work...

[Rocky_Shorz]

I wanted to share photos, but browse isn't working with this phone.

I had been watching the fire approaching the smoke was turning orange, suddenly from no where out of the pitch black, 3 marine choppers appear like on a bombing run, split spread and destroyed...

Steaming, the orange is gone...

I wonder if I can get a Roster to know who to send a bottle of scotch to as a thanks...

[Michelle Marie]

It works! Keep doing it!

💙💙💙💙💫🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🐇💙💙💙💙💙

Praying with you. Team prayer. Intent. Electromagnetic energy. Use your radiance!

MM

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2017/12/07/san-diego-county-and-riverside-county-homes-face-new-wildfires/933158001/

http://wildfiretoday.com/2017/12/07/lilac-fire-a-new-fire-in-san-diego-county/

http://thevillagessuntimes.com/2017/12/08/lilac-brush-fire-spreads-to-san-luis-rey-downs/

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[Rocky_Shorz]

I know some of you doubters are saying I'm just a Drama Queen that wanted to see if Trump would call in the US Military just to save my ass just for saving his so many times... lol well maybe...

[Hervé]

Hey, I'm in the Mandatory Evacuated Zone...

I'm staying, I'll let you know when it gets exciting... shhh
Hello Rocky,

I merged your recent thread with this pre-existing one on that same subject.

[Rocky_Shorz]

San Diego doesn't consider itself part of California... 😉

Bright and sunny morning, no wind yet...

[Michelle Marie]

San Diego doesn't consider itself part of California... 😉

Bright and sunny morning, no wind yet...

Thanks for checking in. I was wondering how you were doing.

Happy Day!
MM😀🐾🎯😀🎅🐾😀

[Rocky_Shorz]

I'm surrounded by Angels so knew I was safe, the massive winds were supposed to blow until tomorrow afternoon, are gone,

These firemen are our heroes, hopping out in front of fires like it's no big deal, but it is...

Thanks to all of you, and the big Guy for turning off a cyclone for us.

The Coyotes all Gathered in the greenbelt behind me, could hear them all moving around last night, I put 2 10 gallon pails outside the fence and filled them with water, they are both empty...

[Rocky_Shorz]

Good news all, whatever was preventing Southern California rain has passed, it's coming now over the next 10 days, finally...

[Noelle]

Tonight the Thomas Fire was dubbed the largest fire on record in California, thus far burning 273,400 acres, according to the LA Times (http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-thomas-fire-size-20171222-20171222-htmlstory.html).

Cal Fire (http://www.fire.ca.gov/current_incidents/incidentdetails/Index/1922)is reporting the following:

Structures Threatened - 18,000 structures threatened
Structures Destroyed - 1,063 Structures Destroyed, 280 Structures Damaged

[A Voice from the Mountains]

Remember last year, when there were huge wildfires outside of Los Angeles, burning up the mansions of some big Hollywood insiders?

Everyone was told to evacuate these areas. It gave a pretext to send people onto the properties of these Hollywood bigwigs, which they otherwise may have never gained permission to do.

When it comes to draining the swamp, I wouldn't put it past the administration to start wildfires on purpose just to run the rats out of their nests. There are military operations going on.

[norman]

House Sliced in Half by DEW Lasers in Carr Fire?

https://forbiddenknowledgetv.net/house-sliced-in-half-by-dews-in-carr-fire/

Scenes of vaporized homes surrounded by relatively unscathed trees are the hallmark of the devastating NorCal (https://forbiddenknowledgetv.net/tag/norcal/) fires we saw last Fall and again, in the Carr Fire (https://forbiddenknowledgetv.net/tag/carr-fire/) over the past week.


We’re seeing the same (https://forbiddenknowledgetv.net/norcal-fire-captain-says-dew-the-only-plausible-explanation/) eerie (https://forbiddenknowledgetv.net/smart-fire-technology-explained/) images of this anomaly, where upscale suburban homes are cremated, innumerable cars are “toasted” (requiring temperatures exceeding 2500ºF), yet nearby trees just inches away are left intact.

This video shows a still photograph of one such home that was literally sliced in half, as if by some giant precision saw.

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It is disturbing to relate reports from people in the region, who have lost everything and who are convinced that Directed Energy Weapons (https://forbiddenknowledgetv.net/tag/Directed-Energy-Weapons/) are being deployed against their communities. One rumor circulating from the Q posts claims it is the State of California that is the perpetrator. The chronically insolvent State, having defied the Federal Government with its Sanctuary City laws that shelter illegal immigrants is being blamed for torching the Redding (https://forbiddenknowledgetv.net/tag/redding/)-Shasta (https://forbiddenknowledgetv.net/tag/shasta/) region so that the State could get access to State of Emergency and FEMA funds.


I’m not here to argue whether or not any of this is true but I do find it significant that so many Americans have so entirely lost faith in the authorities that they believe their homes have been targeted for destruction. This idea is unfathomable, yet the images give the appearance of illustrating these beliefs. And frankly, after 9/11, decades of wars based on lies, the sheer number of mass shootings and cover-ups – and that Mandalay Bay is actually suing 1,000+ shooting victims…one would have to be an idiot to trust the authorities.


Last year, YouTuber, APlainTruth.Info posted 3 instances of large laser (https://forbiddenknowledgetv.net/tag/laser/) beams captured by cellphone cameras around the wildfires and INTruthbyGrace posted a video featuring scientific papers about the use of electrical fields for combustion synthesis in metals, aka “Smartfire Technology.” (Please see the links to those two videos below).


The latter explains how these fires were being set by masers, the acronym for “microwave amplification by stimulated emission of radiation”. When the coherent radiation of atomic beam masers are applied to metals, the released oxides function as accelerants for the creation of fires. This can be done with all kinds of metals, due to the characteristics of their atomic structure (which is why you shouldn’t put metals in a microwave oven). Masers would help explain the toasted cars…


She goes on to explain that most homes in California have terracotta roof tiles, commonly made from clay that gets its red color from iron oxide. When microwaves are applied to terracotta, the iron oxide releases oxygen, which fuels the fires. Significantly, the same cannot be done with trees because there’s no metal in trees to create the oxidizing agent to stoke a fire.


Meanwhile, the Carr Fire (https://forbiddenknowledgetv.net/tag/carr-fire/) is still raging in Northern California after several days. It has killed 6 people, destroyed 1,000 homes and damaged 200 more. We’re told that the 4,000 firemen, with the help California State Prison inmates have now gotten the wildfire 30% under control.

[Ba-ba-Ra]

I live in N. California - 1 hr from Sacramento (Capital), but semi-rural.

Yesterday 2 fires started: One 7 miles from my place, the other 25 miles from me. Thanks to great work of firemen, they were both under control within 5 hrs. now (next morning) both 80% contained. Each only burned approx 65+ acres. So, small in Calif fire standards. The smoke has been tough to deal with all over N.California.

My Thoughts: Yes, California is a liberal state, BUT, not the rural areas, which are often strong enclaves for what the liberals call Rednecks. And many are Rednecks, but many are folks like me who are tired of the out-of-control liberal agendas.

So where are all the fires taking place: in this conservative/redneck areas. Coincidence, maybe, because in truth that is where the vast grassy/treed areas are, so that would make sense.

But I keep remembering what POTUS tweeted - or was it something Q said: paraphrasing -: What do you do when federal funds are cut off from sanctuary cities, you light fires to get federal disaster aid.

[Foxie Loxie]

Thanks for posting, Ba-ba-Ra, I'm sure many were wondering, as was I, how things were going in your particular area. Whoever "Q" is....they seem to know what is REALLY going on with these weird fires. How does one sue one's own state?!!

[norman]

Cal Fires Update ~ We REALLY REALLY Don't Care About You ~ Agenda 2030 in Action


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Published on 18 Aug 2018

This video reports that over one dozen cars were flipped over onto their roofs in one night in Santa Rosa (https://forbiddenknowledgetv.net/tag/santa-rosa/)! He asks, “What kind of fire flips 3,000 pound cars?”

On-the-ground reports from California are surreal. It’s hard to know what to make of them from 3,000 miles away and especially in light of the undeniable correspondences between images we see here and images seen around Ground Zero (https://forbiddenknowledgetv.net/tag/Ground-Zero/) in Dr Judy Wood (https://forbiddenknowledgetv.net/tag/Dr-Judy-Wood/)’s book, ‘Where Did the Towers Go?’ where she outlined her hypothesis that Directed Energy Weapons (https://forbiddenknowledgetv.net/tag/Directed-Energy-Weapons/) were involved with the destruction of the World Trade Center (https://forbiddenknowledgetv.net/tag/World-Trade-Center/) Towers. This is also what some people are alleging has occurred to cause the wildfires in California.

A subscriber sent me this video with the message, “I personally went to Santa Rosa (https://forbiddenknowledgetv.net/tag/santa-rosa/) and saw all the devastation and spoke to at least 20 construction workers onsite. I asked them if there were any ‘anomalies’ regarding the fires and several said that they’d never seen steel melt, aluminum engine blocks melting, with molten aluminum running into the gutters and that almost all the trees and landscaping were still there.”

The video is from APlaneTruth.Info, who has been on a relentless tear, uploading videos and commentary about the Santa Rosa (https://forbiddenknowledgetv.net/tag/santa-rosa/) fires, non-stop. The photos show many anomalies but the ones that really give me pause are of the toasted cars. I’m immediately reminded of the work of Dr Judy Wood (https://forbiddenknowledgetv.net/tag/Dr-Judy-Wood/). In fact, “toasted cars” was a term coined by Dr Wood to describe very similar anomalous phenomena found at the scene of Ground Zero (https://forbiddenknowledgetv.net/tag/Ground-Zero/) and for which she felt that normal words were inadequate, especially a toasted car, flipped upside down in the blast shadow of the Towers’ collapse, next to the offices of Amex.

[Valerie Villars]

Wow. Thanks Norman. All the usual suspects, motivations and machinations.

[Ron Mauer Sr]

According to what I was able to understand from a reading by Carol Clarke: (Pardon any inaccuracies due to my old ears listening to her English accent.)

Humans are using ET technology to start some of the fires. Their motivation is to demonstrate force. I can see how they may use that in the future, as a bully would say to a child, "Do what I say or else.", then herd us into their scheme to enslave us in global government.


**Update with partial transcript


42:26 I'm running over time but I will answer
42:30 these you asked me some questions and
42:33 you said there have been fires that
42:36 destroyed buildings and cars but not the
42:38 nearby trees in California and some
42:41 places in other countries and you said
42:44 many suspect the cause to be the use of
42:47 directed-energy weapon and you are
42:51 asking who is creating this destruction
42:57 and I will say to you it is earth humans
43:03 who have had the technology been taught
43:08 by ETS and they really are wanting to
43:15 show that the power they want they want
43:22 the human race to disappear and I think
43:26 that this is certainly manipulated my
43:34 the earth humans who have been taught
43:37 and told to do this and there are places
43:42 in I think three four countries that
43:48 have been taught this technology
43:52 and they are wanting to yes you you
43:58 asked if they're doing it through
43:59 manipulation through fear
44:01 um in a way yes
44:05 but I think that they are doing it to
44:11 show how powerful they are and they
44:17 didn't want to destroy the earth but
44:20 this the things that have happened here
44:23 are tests and if you think that they can
44:29 do this with metal and you we're going
44:39 to say how easy it is to just destroy
44:42 the people and leave everything else as
44:44 it should be it's it's sort of worse
44:47 than a sort of clean nuclear bomb and
44:50 you've asked at the launch platform is
44:52 within your our atmosphere or beyond
44:56 it's actually beyond and but it's just
45:01 above our atmosphere and you know
45:03 there's so much space junk up there and
45:06 and different things that even if
45:09 amateur astronomers spotted something
45:13 they would not really suspect it because
45:17 of all the junk that's there and that's
45:20 been sent up on purpose to camouflage
45:23 what they're actually doing now when you
45:26 look at the the Greece fires it's it's
45:30 ridiculous you know it's do they think
45:35 that humans are so stupid that really
45:41 you know we wouldn't think that
45:45 something is wrong here and I think that
45:49 as use you said there's something here
45:53 the forest fires forget to burn the
45:55 forest and it's a severe worldwide
45:59 phenomenon and yes it is nothing to
46:03 immediately
46:04 make people fearful but it will make
46:10 people think that something beyond is
46:15 actually powerful enough to destroy
46:21 whatever they focus on and it's an
46:26 absolutely dreadful thing it's an
46:30 experiment has been an experiment
46:32 because of never known so many fires in
46:35 Mambo and I mean there are fires here
46:39 where buildings are going up and you
46:44 know really that there was one beautiful
46:47 really old place that went up in flames
46:51 and nobody knows how it started or
46:53 anything and I think that they just they
46:57 would just test and then they started
47:01 doing on this it's all about control
47:05 it's all about control but I think that
47:10 really you can I think this is something
47:15 that you can help bring the answers to
47:20 the world and show them that you know
47:24 that it's et's manipulating earth humans
47:29 to do this to their own species so those
47:35 who have got their DNA within them and
47:39 you know because the ultimate thing is
47:42 actually to really rid themselves rid
47:47 this earth of humans and it's been done
47:53 before and that's been done with floods

[amor]

Years ago there were several occurrences of people being either completely or partially consumed by some sort of fire or radiation while sitting in a living room chair in front of their TV, or near to their fire place in which radiation energy could come through the TV screen or from on high down the fireplace chimney. I recall it happened to a couple embracing while standing in the hallway of a Mall. It was being called spontaneous combustion. However, I knew that this was directed technology, mainly because several of its victims had the portion of their body directly in front of the TV screen completely consumed while the legs and feet, out of range, were totally intact. At that time, I believed this to be either accidental or focused experimentation. I believe this to be what was used from the SKY deliberately. Kerry Cassidy on Project Camelot has an interesting take on the reasons this may have been done. Have a listen to her.

[Matthew]

I heard about CA officially taking Ham radio away, and couldn't for the life of me understand why this was useful amongst the terrifying weather and fires around there. Ham radio is a PERFECT disaster recovery tool for a population to stay in touch - it beats TV, internet, and is even better than one-way radio (which only lets you hear an official broadcast message). Ham radio allows two way conversations and lets people network when all else fails.


California Officials declare Ham Radio no longer a benefit; Demands Ham radio repeater infrastructure to be Removed
Published 10 Oct 2019

Might be the wrong thread, but especially with the fires it makes no sense
https://offgridsurvival.com/california-officials-declare-ham-radio-no-longer-a-benefit/


Extract:

The People’s Republic of California is at it again; through unelected state officials, California is severing ties to ham radio repeater owners throughout the state, jeopardizing the lives of millions of Californians who depend on these repeaters to operate during emergencies.

Last month, repeater operators were sent emails telling them the State would no longer allow them to operate repeaters on public land without paying substantial rental fees. In the letter sent by CAL FIRE, the state claims Ham operators no longer provide a benefit to the state or public safety. They claimed that “constantly changing technological advances” has made Ham radio obsolete during an emergency.

...


Here's some guy taking about it on YouTube. There is some hope in the video description for this video; someone is fighting this official move:


UPDATE!!
The State of California has heard you and is working to fix the situation I will be doing an update to this story as soon as I get an official response from the state government. Thank you all for participating in government.
Read the letter here: http://www.shastadefense.com/FAX-CalFireHamRadio20190923.pdf
Read the Sheriff's response http://www.shastadefense.com/Sheriffemail20190926.pdf


Here is the video itself:

California declares Ham Radio no longer a benefit, severs ties across the state.
Published 2nd Oct. 2019

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[Matthew]

Hey, this made me think; it's possibly a sign Ham radio is exactly what the people of CA need right now. It makes sense to start with, but seeing this move against Ham radio, well... that might be saying that Ham radio is critical. To be a Ham radio operator you need a licence and there are various ways to get licensed, people get licences every day

[avid]

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Just as Dutchsinse predicted yesterday... here it is!!!
Another set-up.

[avid]

https://www.facebook.com/dutchsinseofficial/?epa=SEARCH_BOX
Check out his now regular fb posts with links to other info.

[kfm27917]

Saw a documentary about keystone species (google it if unsure what it means)
Q: what is keystone species to keep California forest healthy ?
A: found this (see attached link)
https://www.beaversandbrush.com/beavers-californias-missing-keystone-to-mitigate-wildfire-risk/
interesting !

[palehorse]

Half Million People Evacuated in Oregon As Wildfires Spread, Arson Concerns Grow

From a twitter account
"Right wing militia members in Oregon who are convinced anti-fascists set fire to their town set up checkpoints with guns on roads ppl were using to flee. Who had this on their 2020 bingo card?"

At the end of the article
"It appears possible that some of these wildfires were not just started by lighting strikes or mishaps with utility companies but possibly there's a chance arson could be involved. "

Seems like the hell start to break loose! In another thread I did read something about a beam starting the fires??

https://www.zerohedge.com/political/half-million-people-evacuated-oregon-wildfires-spread-arson-concerns-grow

[onawah]

Yes, the beam is being discussed in a few thread, but specifically here: http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?112008-Directed-Energy-Weapon-caught-seemingly-lighting-fires-via-Satellite-View-by-dutchsinse-YouTube-channel&p=1376725&viewfull=1#post1376725

Half Million People Evacuated in Oregon As Wildfires Spread, Arson Concerns Grow

From a twitter account
"Right wing militia members in Oregon who are convinced anti-fascists set fire to their town set up checkpoints with guns on roads ppl were using to flee. Who had this on their 2020 bingo card?"

At the end of the article
"It appears possible that some of these wildfires were not just started by lighting strikes or mishaps with utility companies but possibly there's a chance arson could be involved. "

Seems like the hell start to break loose! In another thread I did read something about a beam starting the fires??

https://www.zerohedge.com/political/half-million-people-evacuated-oregon-wildfires-spread-arson-concerns-grow

[Mark (Star Mariner)]

Gov. Newsom: ‘This Is A Climate Damn Emergency’

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I suspect the fires are far more to do with human activity.


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[Baby Steps]

the following is at least interesting as a possibility

https://mobile.twitter.com/starryneutrons/status/1304502671114600449?s=19

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[Mark (Star Mariner)]

Dressed as firefighters. Or maybe firelighters..

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http://projectavalon.net/forum4/attachment.php?attachmentid=44397&d=1600035206

[norman]

I can't explain why, but that photo reminds me of the apollo moon landing photos.

[Johnnycomelately]

YT chan The Lookout, 8.01.22. Zeke has a conversation with another wildfire professional, Malcom North.

They talk about needing different approaches to forest management, based on lessons learned by observing how past efforts have stood up to big fires like the Dixie.

They even suggest that reforestation mimic natural regrowth following big fires, clumping instead of even-spacing.

In the final half minute, Zeke says he hasn’t much confidence that CA management efforts will make much difference. But
I think that thoughts from earnest and honest people like him and North should add toward a better outcome of the natural process, or at least our acceptance of it.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kdVxf-PXRi0

[Johnnycomelately]

The Lookout, McKinney Fire update, 8.02.22.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lhoPCz2ftao