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RunningDeer
9th November 2018, 22:20
https://i.imgur.com/qvtnHfi.jpg

Sierra's GoFundMe Fire Relief link (https://www.gofundme.com/sierra-fire-relief-paradise-ca)

https://i.imgur.com/F5VZkI8.gif

Sierra’s post (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?30405-Here-and-Now...What-s-Happening&p=1258838&viewfull=1#post1258838):




“Our neighborhood is gone. We were right on the Butte Creek canyon with a view so pffft. Clothes on our backs, bag of meds, iphone and ipad. We abandoned the car, and then were picked up by two different drivers. Took 4 hours to go 18 miles on the one open road. I’m fine with the house gone but oh I weep for my Martha, who hid, and we could not find her.

The video of us heading down the mountain to Chico does not want to load. I was able to load it in skype.

Fire 18,000 acres now. Apparently the entire town is burning. How the fire got from the Pentz side canyon on the east side to the Butte Canyon on the west (Paradise is on a ridge between the teo canyons) is a mystery to me. The video shows where both fires on both sides closed in on Skyway, down to the curb. It got hot there.

It was SO good to finally drop below the tree line, out of the darkness and into the fresh air.

Our sweet sweet realtor called us, picked us up, and took us to her parents house. We have a private room, bath, and we’re with the kindest people.

I am so grateful.

All our family members, and friends made it out. Just Martha.”



https://i.imgur.com/F5VZkI8.gif

You are in our thoughts, Sierra, David, & Pippin
Rest in Peace, Martha
https://i.imgur.com/Vo8BhKs.jpg



Bill Ryan
9th November 2018, 22:27
Paula, thank you so much, and I'm bumping this immediately.

Thousands have suffered, and there are some heartbreaking stories. But Sierra is one of our own.

She has nothing. It's all gone. Please help her.


https://gofundme.com/sierra-fire-relief-paradise-ca


http://projectavalon.net/forum4/images/smilies/0708%20Flower.gif

Valerie Villars
9th November 2018, 23:08
Y1PiHsS8LP8

Bill Ryan
9th November 2018, 23:09
For anyone reading this who's unaware of what's happened, there are a couple of dozen posts on the Here and Now...What's Happening (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?30405-Here-and-Now...What-s-Happening) thread, starting with Paul's post #51377, here (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?30405-Here-and-Now...What-s-Happening&p=1258772&viewfull=1#post1258772). Please do read.

Some of the images are apocalyptic, horrific, and heart-rending. It's been like a war. (There's very professional 24/7 livestream coverage here (https://www.actionnewsnow.com/livestream), from Action News, a local TV station. One or two of the reporters are only just holding it together. Some of their own staff have lost their homes, and they're still going.)

Sierra and her husband only just made it out, with the clothes on their backs and one of their two beloved cats. Sierra believes their other cat, Martha, probably perished trying to hide in a kitchen cupboard.

She posted a video here (http://projectavalon.net/Sierra_escaping_the_Paradise_fire_8_Nov_2018.mp4), taken from the truck as they were fleeing. It's actually daytime, but the sky is as black as night.

As is now being reported, 5 people died in their cars trying to get out. The small town of Paradise, which was largely a retirement community, is gone.

Her house is almost certainly destroyed. She now has nothing. Please be as generous as you can.

RunningDeer
9th November 2018, 23:23
I can only imagine what Sierra and her family are going through at their stage of life. I understand it's a hard time of year with winter coming (i.e. heating bills) and the holidays. No amount is too small.

My seven year old son and I lost about 90% of everything in an apartment fire. It was a week before I began my last semester of college. Being a single mom, apartment insurance didn't fit into the teeny-tiny budget. (college loan)

I was grateful for the food bank at the local church that provided a couple of bags of groceries. Still to this day that gesture brings tears to my eyes.

Your gift is delivered with great big wings. It's the healing and love behind it that keeps on giving even years later.

https://i.imgur.com/QJRrfzn.gif

Indigris
9th November 2018, 23:31
I'm terribly sorry for your loss, Sierra. I can't imagine what it must be like to lose your home.

I don't have any money to donate, kind of strapped right now, but if you ever just want someone to talk to or send you cute/funny videos, let me know.

I'm glad almost all your family made it out safely.

Mercedes
9th November 2018, 23:40
Sierra, I really hope you and your family are all well, and that you are able to find confort in the people arround you, I am at a loss for words but know you are in my thoughts.

greybeard
9th November 2018, 23:42
I cant afford to donate but I did.
No amount too small
Ch

Tintin
9th November 2018, 23:57
The thing for me that is so frustrating is that I ACTUALLY WANT TO PHYSICALLY BE THERE and help.

Dear Sierra, and family.

Blinking flip.

Really sending love right now, xx

Valerie Villars
10th November 2018, 00:18
I can only imagine what Sierra and her family are going through at their stage of life. I understand it's a hard time of year with winter coming (i.e. heating bills) and the holidays. No amount is too small.

My four year old son and I lost about 90% of everything in an apartment fire. It was a week before I began my last semester of college. Being a single mother, apartment insurance didn't fit into the teeny-tiny budget.

I was grateful for the local church that provided a couple of bags of groceries. Still to this day that gesture brings tears to my eyes.

Your gift is delivered with great big wings. It's the healing and love behind it that keeps on giving even years later.

https://i.imgur.com/QJRrfzn.gif

Having had a home burn to the ground, I want to emphasize what Paula is saying above about the gift that gives years later. I remember, 49 years later a kind teacher who bought and wrapped a pair of pajamas as a gift after my home burned all those years ago. Her name is Mrs. Doolittle. It was a kindness I never forgot. To this day.

Edit: If only 20,000 people gave just one dollar. Wouldn't that be something great?

Spellbound
10th November 2018, 00:43
There's no possible way the cat made it out alive?? (please have faith)

Donation sent. I was hearing about this tragedy on the radio today at lunch. My heart goes out to everyone who endured this.

Dave - Toronto

Jean-Marie
10th November 2018, 01:02
Thank you all :bearhug: We have already raised $1055.00 in just a couple of hours! :heart:

Spellbound
10th November 2018, 01:38
For anyone reading this who's unaware of what's happened, there are a couple of dozen posts on the Here and Now...What's Happening (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?30405-Here-and-Now...What-s-Happening) thread, starting with Paul's post #51377, here (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?30405-Here-and-Now...What-s-Happening&p=1258772&viewfull=1#post1258772). Please do read.

Some of the images are apocalyptic, horrific, and heart-rending. It's been like a war. (There's very professional 24/7 livestream coverage here (https://www.actionnewsnow.com/livestream), from Action News, a local TV station. One or two of the reporters are only just holding it together. Some of their own staff have lost their homes, and they're still going.)

Sierra and her husband only just made it out, with the clothes on their backs and one of their two beloved cats. Sierra believes their other cat, Martha, probably perished trying to hide in a kitchen cupboard.

She posted a video here (http://projectavalon.net/Sierra_escaping_the_Paradise_fire_8_Nov_2018.mp4), taken from the truck as they were fleeing. It's actually daytime, but the sky is as black as night.

As is now being reported, 5 people died in their cars trying to get out. The small town of Paradise, which was largely a retirement community, is gone.

Her house is almost certainly destroyed. She now has nothing. Please be as generous as you can.

Wow....I just checked out the video clips above. I cannot imagine losing everything like that. I really hope they find the cat.

C'mon folks...dig deep!!

Dave - Toronto

Flash
10th November 2018, 07:08
I can only imagine what Sierra and her family are going through at their stage of life. I understand it's a hard time of year with winter coming (i.e. heating bills) and the holidays. No amount is too small.

My four year old son and I lost about 90% of everything in an apartment fire. It was a week before I began my last semester of college. Being a single mother, apartment insurance didn't fit into the teeny-tiny budget.

I was grateful for the local church that provided a couple of bags of groceries. Still to this day that gesture brings tears to my eyes.

Your gift is delivered with great big wings. It's the healing and love behind it that keeps on giving even years later.

https://i.imgur.com/QJRrfzn.gif

Having had a home burn to the ground, I want to emphasize what Paula is saying above about the gift that gives years later. I remember, 49 years later a kind teacher who bought and wrapped a pair of pajamas as a gift after my home burned all those years ago. Her name is Mrs. Doolittle. It was a kindness I never forgot. To this day.

Edit: If only 20,000 people gave just one dollar. Wouldn't that be something great?

or 1,000 gave 20$, we are more than 1,000 here on Avalon or one of the eternal onlookers who can give 20$ aren't we?

Flash
10th November 2018, 07:20
Paula, thank you so much, and I'm bumping this immediately.

Thousands have suffered, and there are some heartbreaking stories. But Sierra is one of our own.

She has nothing. It's all gone. Please help her.


https://gofundme.com/sierra-fire-relief-paradise-ca


http://projectavalon.net/forum4/images/smilies/0708%20Flower.gif

Post it on your facebook too people, you may have generous friends, who knows

Retief
10th November 2018, 08:00
I just contributed wish I could give more. That is just devastating.

Joe from the Carolinas
10th November 2018, 10:35
I can only imagine the terror Sierra and others evacuating the area must have felt, along with the profound loss. This is truly a situation where folks are forced to over again, while still trying to absorb the impact. I just hope Sierra and everybody else caught in these fires has time and resources to push pause for awhile and at some point start rebuilding. A very kind gesture to start this fundraiser. Thanks for doing this!

celticwarrior
10th November 2018, 10:49
Just donated. So sorry for Sierra and everyone who lost everything in this disaster. So sorry about Martha the cat. Had to have our 15 year old cat put to sleep earlier in the week, and can still hear him yelling at the door.

Take care everyone.
CW 😢

Soda
10th November 2018, 14:10
Just donated a small amount. Would encourage everyone reading this to please do the same. Even if only $1 or $2.

Dennis Leahy
10th November 2018, 14:45
Sierra,

I don't think any of us can imagine what you just went through, or what you and your community are facing. Even the fire itself isn't over yet, and ash is raining down. You must be in shock.

I'm just so glad that you made it out, made it to safety. Sending big love and a little cash.

-Dennis

Satori
10th November 2018, 14:53
I'm not looking for any kind of recognition, but I made a contribution yesterday. All my best to you and yours Sierra.

ramus
10th November 2018, 15:02
I know the money won't take away the pain and lost, but it will help with the material world.

raregem
10th November 2018, 16:32
Words do not come to me but caring emotions of love and compassion go to you and all in this time of loss and devastation.

Tintin
10th November 2018, 16:33
@Sierra - my message on Skype earlier: so so sorry to hear about your Martha - that's really heart-breakingly sad. I am though SO relieved that you got out of there okay and from what I picked up on Paula's message on the forum, you do seem to be somewhere safe now. There's not very much practical that I can do to help you from several thousand miles away here except to send you my love, and keep sending it the best way I can :heart:

Bob
10th November 2018, 16:45
42 donations in 19 hours have come in at the writing of this post, $2,295 of the $20,000 goal.



She escaped with her husband, her life, the clothes on her back, and one of her two cats.

The shoes on her feet are now the only pair of shoes she owns.

But we can ACT to help. As you read this, she needs our support right now.

:heart:

Please help if you can: https://www.gofundme.com/sierra-fire-relief-paradise-ca

thanks

===update===

$3,435 of the $20,000 goal
has been raised by 48 people in 20 hours

thank you thank you ! :happythumbsup:

pyrangello
10th November 2018, 17:19
Avalon Family at its best when things are at their worst, Glad to contribute with $, prayers , hugs, and posted on my facebook your go fund me. I've been involved in 3 house fires and yes lost everything in one, special prayers for Martha!

toppy
10th November 2018, 17:46
I'm glad that I could help. I send you all my love and compassion.

Spellbound
10th November 2018, 18:15
Almost $3500 now (someone just donated $1000). Avalon, you never cease to amaze me.

https://www.gofundme.com/sierra-fire-relief-paradise-ca?teamInvite=nRq2KkqtaUZSiFUwT62nm6pZpYJZ2VuF0PHB tUMVh7Y7vHw3tDlH3WOvVp00XRBd

Dave - Toronto

RunningDeer
10th November 2018, 20:35
https://i.imgur.com/HVwThLe.gif


https://i.imgur.com/Jk9kYQ5.jpg

Bayareamom
10th November 2018, 20:41
Article and links re the devastating fires raging out here in CA. Am grateful my family is not in any imminent danger, but we did have a small run up to what could have been potentially dangerous in our neck of the woods, just yesterday. My heart goes out to all those impacted by these fires (including our dear Sierra). Our family made a donation for Sierra, but frankly I wish we could help one and all. Just awful...

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6374985/Evacuees-turned-away-overflowing-shelters-300K-residents-flee-California-wildfires.html

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Forgot to mention that Kerry Cassidy states she has been evacuated (https://twitter.com/projectcamelot/status/1061314714720985088?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcam p%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet) and has been in a shelter for the past two days. My thoughts and prayers go out to Kerry as well. Stay safe and well...

Libico
10th November 2018, 20:50
So terribly sorry for your loss Sierra - your family and Martha will be in my thoughts tonight sending you positive energy to get you through this ordeal. I donated, though I wish I could do more.

Spellbound
10th November 2018, 21:06
I'm holding out hope that Martha the cat will find safety and that Sierra will find her once again at some point down the line.

Dave - Toronto

RunningDeer
10th November 2018, 21:36
Sierra’s GoFundMe Page (https://www.gofundme.com/sierra-fire-relief-paradise-ca?teamInvite=nRq2KkqtaUZSiFUwT62nm6pZpYJZ2VuF0PHB tUMVh7Y7vHw3tDlH3WOvVp00XRBd)
https://i.imgur.com/Fg5FsWd.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/HVwThLe.gif

DeDukshyn
10th November 2018, 21:56
I dont have a credit card, and I don't have a paypal account, but I'd like to help ... I can do interac email transfers though ... does that work with gofundme?

Man I feel bad for losing the cat ... the few cats I have lost hit me like losing a child ... my condolences ... if there's a chance shes still alive, she will be ...

Ivy23
10th November 2018, 23:04
I am also hoping for a reunion between Martha and Sierra. My heart goes out to everyone impacted by the fires. I watched the video... so scary. I can’t imagine. Sent what I could for now but I’m definitely sending some big love!!


I'm holding out hope that Martha the cat will find safety and that Sierra will find her once again at some point down the line.

Dave - Toronto

RunningDeer
10th November 2018, 23:14
I don't have a credit card, and I don't have a paypal account, but I'd like to help ... I can do interac email transfers though ... does that work with gofundme?

Man I feel bad for losing the cat ... the few cats I have lost hit me like losing a child ... my condolences ... if there's a chance shes still alive, she will be ...
I’d start here, Mike:

Post #130 (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?15584-A-reminder-please-don-t-forget-to-donate-to-the-Forum&p=1242383&viewfull=1#post1242383)




Paul - Yes - send me a PM and I can arrange to receive donations, that I pass along to Bill. I can receive donations in just about any legal form that's possible in the US.



Bill - Do please PM him [Paul], and he'll let you (or anyone!) know his postal address in Texas.

angelfire
10th November 2018, 23:43
So sorry for what has happened, Sierra - not knowing what has happened to Martha would break my heart too, but don't give up hope that she managed to survive!
Please trust and believe you will be provided for and sending what little I can at the moment.

God bless.

jc71
11th November 2018, 00:09
Thinking of you and yours Sierra. And sorry for your loss of Martha. I don't know what else to say but have just donated and hopefully doing my bit to keep the thread at the top of the lists for others to become aware of it.

JC x

RunningDeer
11th November 2018, 00:47
Thinking of you and yours Sierra. And sorry for your loss of Martha. I don't know what else to say but have just donated and hopefully doing my bit to keep the thread at the top of the lists for others to become aware of it.

JC x
Thanks for holding the space, jc.

It’s got sticky status. Which means it’ll always be in that upper blue zone; one of the top 8 places under the General (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/forumdisplay.php?3-General-Discussion) section.


https://i.imgur.com/17fTKhI.gif


Patient
11th November 2018, 01:12
Sierra, all the best to you and your family. I know what it feels like - I have lost everything twice. It is not easy, but you are already on your way!

When I hit a difficult time, I always think to myself "Well, I guess I just gotta keep walking." And with that one thought, I do. :)

Sierra
11th November 2018, 01:49
Hello everyone, oh you dearhearts, you make me weep. Only two things I cry over, Martha I cry over multiple times a day, and I cried when I realized all my photographs of my sisters are gone. Everybody, take pictures of your photos on your iphones. You will be SO GLAD you did.

Our next door neighbor saw our house on fire when she left, not surprised, apparently the Butte Creek Canyon area was hit hardest (we were on the edge with a spectacular view) even though the fire started in the canyon on the opposite side of town. The Butte Creek Canton is extremely steep so it must have climbed in a fury.

I just want Martha. The animal rescue people were let in to Paradise today. A relative works the animal rescue in our area, and they said they would leave food and water just in case. I’m hoping and praying she made it. Can’t help it.

The video upload app for this system no longer works for me. I have an 18 second video of the sky over Chico the following day, orange sky, ash falling, 41 degrees, shivering in my linen blouse, jeans and teva sandals, lol. I’ll ask Bill to upload the video.

I was an idiot. I texted Dave about the house burning, while he was shopping at Ross Dress for Less, and he burst into tears. He left his credit card there, but they have it and he is going back to get it now.

The kindeness of strangers is ENORMOUS, unfailing, and keeps happening.


Our realtor’s family took us in.
Dave let someone go in front of him, since he only had a sixpack. He heard David talking to the people behind him about the fire, and he gave the cashier 20.00 for David.
The insurance contact, Ryan, is holding our hotel reservation in Chico through December.
The medical dispensary in Redding gave Dave a huge bag of stuff for free, haven’t had a chance to see it yet, lol.
Someone just donated 1,000 into the go fund me.
A friend of David gave a friend of ours 500.00, a single mother with three kids, four and younger. She posted on FB, good bye Butte County, off to Portland, OR. We’ve given hundreds to friends far less fortunate than us. All I can say is we will pay it forward.
A manager at our bank Chase, stepped in and instantly cashed a check for someone who did not bank there, her bank closed their office.
Safeway, with no proof of purchase since Safeway in Paradise burned down, busted a gut trying to get prescription records from corporate, and failed. They gave Dave a week’s supply of pain pills anyway. I am good on asthma meds so far.
Two very kind people on Avalon offered their homes.
Kristin has been talking with an off the grid community in New Mexico, very close to Silver City where my BFF lives! We could actually afford to live there on my social security, a refuge until David’s social security kicks in.


Chico is overwhelmed. No cars to rent, no hotel rooms, churches offering shelter are full. When I heard that Ventura/Malibu have 250,000 people under mandatory evacuation, I just... the canyon roads, the shoreline road cannot possibly handle that kind of traffic. I can see now why people die in their cars. At one point on the road down the hill, the inside of the car got very hot. It was close to the treeline border and we burst out in time.

We decided to take ourselves to Redding, poor Chico is inundated. Businesses closed, no one answering phones, Bank of America deliberately closed themselves so they wouldn’t have to give people their money. Ooh, that upset me. I have asthma, and with the ash falling, the nuclear winter sky, the freezing temperatures, no sun, we decided to leave. Ryan our insurance contact got us a room in Redding (pet friendly for Pippin!) and we headed out. Took awhile, but we could suddenly see sunlight and shadow on the orchards reeling by, and blue skies, and 30 degrees warmer! What bliss!

Did I tell you about Keith? I think I did, what a man, what a hero. A truly awesome human being. I respect and admire him SO much. Let me know if I didn’t.

I want to watch the Dutchsince video about what is going on in California with the fires. I received a conviction two or three years ago, California is going to burn. I’m kind of annoyed with PGE, they have a lot to answer for in lives and damage and pain. Put the damn power wires underground going forward, please.

Onawah, I thank you from the bottom of my heart for the video of Vulcan. I am hoping and praying Martha will be found. I have faith, I have faith. And if she didn’t make it, she is with the goddess of cats, Bastet, being groomed, purred, washed, binked, smushed, and just loved to bits. I keep talking to her, I’ve experienced telepathy with cats. At one point I felt her get in my lap on our way to Redding, so comforting. Dammit, weeping again. Pets really are family members.

All you dearhearts keep asking what we need. We are really, really okay for now. Insurance instantly wired us 10k so we could help friends, buy essentials. I am now the happy owner of plaid 109% cotton jammies and a pair of slippers, lol. If you want to donate money to to the Go Fund Me page Bill and Jean-Marie set up, we’d be SO grateful. 10K seems like a lot, but at ground zero it’s running like water, eeks. I’m going to use the fund to help out friends too. Oh dear. SO many people with no renter’s insurance.

Dave just got back from the mmj store. The woman who works there said she could not believe how many people from Paradise came in. We met a family in the hotel who had moved to Paradise a month ago, from Alabama. Oh Mercy.

I have to try and unsnarl my waist length hair, ugh. I am SO tempted to cut it off, but David wants it, lol. Tomorrow, health food store, yay! Stock up on liposomal C, all the Bs, glucosamine sulphate etc., cal-mag-zinc, D-3, collagen, Bach’s Rescue Remedy and I will feel SO much better!

Thank you, thank you, thank you for your love and support. I FEEL IT. You are the BEST people ever. I am so proud of you, so honored by you, so loved by you.

Thank you. :heart:

RunningDeer
11th November 2018, 03:29
Sierra hug.https://i.imgur.com/Vlz1VQ6.gif

Did I tell you about Keith? I think I did, what a man, what a hero. A truly awesome human being. I respect and admire him SO much. Let me know if I didn’t.
I don’t recall Keith. I’d love to hear about him.https://i.imgur.com/NcwNuGS.gif


https://i.imgur.com/F5VZkI8.gif


The video upload app for this system no longer works for me. I have an 18 second video of the sky over Chico the following day, orange sky, ash falling, 41 degrees, shivering in my linen blouse, jeans and teva sandals, lol. I’ll ask Bill to upload the video.

Click here for Sierra’s video. (http://projectavalon.net/Sierra_escaping_the_Paradise_fire_8_Nov_2018.mp4)


https://i.imgur.com/F5VZkI8.gif

The video posted by onawah (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?30405-Here-and-Now...What-s-Happening&p=1258982&viewfull=1#post1258982):




Posting this twice because I think it's merited. The most lucid explanations ever of what is causing the entire northern hemisphere to be moved by 6. earthquakes (at the start of this video ...also posted by avid (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?98526-Dutchsinse-s-Earthquake-Reports-and-Forecasts&p=1258912&viewfull=1#post1258912) ...and of what is happening on the West Coast (starting @ 31 minutes (https://youtu.be/gEiYYpJDBcY?t=1897) in), as to how the fires and earthquakes and volcanoes are related.

If we really want to understand what Sierra and the whole West Coast are dealing with now and for the forseeable future, this is the video to watch, imho.

Also keeping in mind that the West Coast produces a big percentage of the produce that supplies the whole rest of the US and other areas besides.

Drought, fires, floods, earthquakes, volcanoes all can take a toll and if highways and bridges are affected by the increasing number of disturbances, shipping can certainly be affected as well.

This is not something that can safely be ignored, and Avalon should be aware.


Daily report, includes commentary on fire breakouts around 40 minutes in.
gEiYYpJDBcY

ErtheVessel
11th November 2018, 03:31
Sierra, thank you so much for taking the time to give us such a full report. it's good to know you are safe and being surrounded with kindness! I am so sorry for the (possible?) loss of your sweet Martha. I will hope that she finds you, and it sounds like her spirit has indeed found you, even if it's no longer attached to her body.

Please don't cut your hair! As an older woman with long hair myself, I hope you will continue to let it grace your life (and David's!) I know it's a bit of trouble to bother with, but somehow it offers something special to one's life, too.

I live in the East Bay of the San Francisco Bay Area, and the skies here have been incredibly smoky since Thursday. The setting sun today was blood red shining dimly through very smoky overcast. Yesterday when I went out to my car, there were tiny bits of ash in the air and swirling off the back hatch when I opened it. So of course I think of you and all the others who are in the midst of such chaos and life-altering disruption.

I send you blessings from my heart!
:heart:

RunningDeer
11th November 2018, 03:38
Sierra’s GoFundMe Page (https://www.gofundme.com/sierra-fire-relief-paradise-ca?teamInvite=nRq2KkqtaUZSiFUwT62nm6pZpYJZ2VuF0PHB tUMVh7Y7vHw3tDlH3WOvVp00XRBd)
https://i.imgur.com/bBnRs2a.gif

https://i.imgur.com/HVwThLe.gif

Bill Ryan
11th November 2018, 03:56
I have an 18 second video of the sky over Chico the following day, orange sky, ash falling, 41 degrees, shivering in my linen blouse, jeans and teva sandals, lol. I’ll ask Bill to upload the video.

Here it is. It looks like Judgment Day in a Terminator movie.


http://projectavalon.net/Sky_over_Chico.mp4


Did I tell you about Keith? I think I did, what a man, what a hero. A truly awesome human being. I respect and admire him SO much. Let me know if I didn’t.Sierra told the mods about Keith, and I really hope she'll say more here. Keith was a close friend of hers who lost absolutely everything he had while helping others save themselves and salvage THEIR belongings. Sierra told us that this is what a hero is.

Edit from Sierra: I will tell you about Keith tomorrow.

I'd fully agree. I compared it earlier to a war. In wartime, people sometimes do extraordinary things in service of others, without any thought at all for themselves.

Paul
11th November 2018, 06:09
I can do interac email transfers though ... does that work with gofundme


I’d start here, Mike:

Post #130 (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?15584-A-reminder-please-don-t-forget-to-donate-to-the-Forum&p=1242383&viewfull=1#post1242383)
Interac e-Transfer works between accounts in Canadian banks. I have no such accounts.

Perhaps someone in Canada can work between Interac and GoFundMe ?

ichingcarpenter
11th November 2018, 16:16
Kick.......because we are together on this

RunningDeer
11th November 2018, 18:29
Sierra’s GoFundMe Page (https://www.gofundme.com/sierra-fire-relief-paradise-ca?teamInvite=nRq2KkqtaUZSiFUwT62nm6pZpYJZ2VuF0PHB tUMVh7Y7vHw3tDlH3WOvVp00XRBd)
https://i.imgur.com/zeSxDJt.gif

https://i.imgur.com/HVwThLe.gif

greybeard
11th November 2018, 19:15
Thanks to all who got this up and running.
Chris

Dick
11th November 2018, 21:17
:heart: Just donated, hope you all get your live on track again :heart:

RunningDeer
12th November 2018, 12:54
Sierra’s GoFundMe Page (https://www.gofundme.com/sierra-fire-relief-paradise-ca?teamInvite=nRq2KkqtaUZSiFUwT62nm6pZpYJZ2VuF0PHB tUMVh7Y7vHw3tDlH3WOvVp00XRBd)
https://i.imgur.com/Q8YI1dG.gif

https://i.imgur.com/HVwThLe.gif

greybeard
12th November 2018, 13:10
Time being it might be an idea to have this as a sticky--front page if this is possible.
Chris

RunningDeer
12th November 2018, 13:33
Time being it might be an idea to have this as a sticky--front page if this is possible.
Chris
Hi Chris check post #39 (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?105014-Avalon-Family-Member-Sierra-lost-everything-Go-Fund-Me&p=1259204&viewfull=1#post1259204). https://i.imgur.com/3x9om0z.gif

UPDATE: front page means something different than I understood. Forum page (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/forum.php) or Home page (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/index.php)?

greybeard
12th November 2018, 13:45
Hi Paula
I meant Forum page newest posts.
To be honest I never look anywhere else.

I dont suppose it s possible to keep it rotating on newest posts.
Would save bumping.
Ch

RunningDeer
12th November 2018, 13:53
Hi Paula
I meant Forum page newest posts.
To be honest I never look anywhere else.

I dont suppose it s possible to keep it rotating on newest posts.
Would save bumping.
Ch
My guess is the software doesn't have that feature/capability.
It's no biggy to update the total with a graphic. It's like a :bump:.

Bill Ryan
12th November 2018, 13:58
Hi Paula
I meant Forum page newest posts.


It's always here, near the top. This is always the best one to use. Can't be 'stuck', but as soon as a new post comes in, it's right there.

http://projectavalon.net/FAQ_images/New_Posts.gif

Ernie Nemeth
12th November 2018, 14:09
Paul.

What is it you need from a Canadian account holder?
Can I help?

RunningDeer
12th November 2018, 14:14
Paul.

What is it you need from a Canadian account holder?
Can I help?

Ernie, while we wait for Paul, check out Mike's post (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?105014-Avalon-Family-Member-Sierra-lost-everything-Go-Fund-Me&p=1259168&viewfull=1#post1259168).

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WhiteFeather
12th November 2018, 19:14
All of my love to you and your family Sierra, and to Martha as well. For may you all be reunited safely at Godspeed.

Paul
12th November 2018, 19:40
Paul.

What is it you need from a Canadian account holder?
Can I help?


Ernie, while we wait for Paul, check out Mike's post (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?105014-Avalon-Family-Member-Sierra-lost-everything-Go-Fund-Me&p=1259168&viewfull=1#post1259168).

I've not found a good and generally usable way to receive Canadian funds.

In particular, as I noted in Post #46 (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?105014-Avalon-Family-Member-Sierra-lost-everything-Go-Fund-Me&p=1259243&viewfull=1#post1259243), above, I don't have access to any Canadian bank accounts, so I can't receive Interac transfers. Nor do I have easy access to a means to convert currencies between US Dollars and other national currencies.

I can usually work with $US denominated checks, cash, and money orders. I can also receive and convert Amazon gift cards, ACH transfers, Paypal transfers, and various cryptocurrencies.

If someone reading this in Canada can convert other forms of Canadian payment into something that I can work with, then I can probably assist in transferring donations to Bill Ryan for the Avalon forum and in the present case for Sierra's GoFundMe account.

RunningDeer
12th November 2018, 19:42
At the risk of breaking all the rules of etiquette and unspoken no-nos… thank you, Simon Parkes for your generosity to Sierra (https://www.gofundme.com/sierra-fire-relief-paradise-ca?teamInvite=nRq2KkqtaUZSiFUwT62nm6pZpYJZ2VuF0PHB tUMVh7Y7vHw3tDlH3WOvVp00XRBd) and Geoff Reed (https://www.gofundme.com/geoff-reed-camp-fire-relief).



https://i.imgur.com/MiY04Ap.gif

Flash
12th November 2018, 23:47
Paul.

What is it you need from a Canadian account holder?
Can I help?

I would help too. Tell Dedushkyn to send me the canadian $, I will have it sent in US funds to you Paul, or deposit it directly to Sierra gofundme account, with Dedushkyn name (oncee the exchange rate is calculated)

Last week I did give to Sierra by the way, and also to Avalon

Jean-Marie
13th November 2018, 00:00
Hello Everyone! I just heard from Sierra. She is exhausted and will hopefully give us an update tomorrow.

:bearhug: :heart: :bearhug:

RunningDeer
13th November 2018, 00:48
I can do interac email transfers though ... does that work with gofundme

What is it you need from a Canadian account holder?
Can I help?

I would help too. Tell DeDukshyn to send me the canadian $, I will have it sent in US funds to you Paul, or deposit it directly to Sierra gofundme account, with DeDukshyn name (once the exchange rate is calculated)

Hi Flash, Ernie and Mike the easiest solution was to send all three of you a PM.
Thanks for your help. https://i.imgur.com/Vlz1VQ6.gif

RunningDeer
13th November 2018, 01:23
http://avalonlibrary.net/paula/smilies/check-this.gif
California Forest Fires-DEW and PTSD (25 minutes)
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Joe from the Carolinas (https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCGSmpodHNxrv27S366OS00A/videos)

California Forest Fires-DEW and PTSD. Thoughts on Directed Energy, the fires raging in California, and California fires and PTSD (post traumatic stress disorder).

Mental Health Resources in California (https://www.dhcs.ca.gov/services/Pages/MentalHealthPrograms-Svcs.aspx)

RunningDeer
13th November 2018, 01:27
Sierra’s GoFundMe Page (https://www.gofundme.com/sierra-fire-relief-paradise-ca?teamInvite=nRq2KkqtaUZSiFUwT62nm6pZpYJZ2VuF0PHB tUMVh7Y7vHw3tDlH3WOvVp00XRBd)
https://i.imgur.com/MjHOBqt.gif

https://i.imgur.com/HVwThLe.gif

Denise/Dizi
13th November 2018, 03:09
Runningdeer, If you are in touch with Sierra, please tell them that I live 15 miles away and if they have any friends or family that need some pet care while they get back on their feet, please, reach out. I am in Nevada City, and many people want to help in some way, many taking loads down to help... Clothes, supplies, toiletries, etc.. We are hearing that they are not letting pets into the shelters. And if you have too many and don't want to shelter them apart from their families, (and I completely understand!) , that those people are sleeping in their vehicles in the night to say with their pets. There are people offering locally, to house these pets for you until you get back on your feet.. My name on facebook is Denise Stevenson Dyer, and I am seeing these posts, and can help you hook up with some of those people. I being one of them. I have 2 Shih Tzus, but they're very friendly, so if there are birds, dogs, or other animals needing a home temporarily, or permenantly, let us know up here, we want to help..

RunningDeer
13th November 2018, 03:54
Runningdeer, If you are in touch with Sierra
http://avalonlibrary.net/paula/smilies/thankyou-pole2.gifDenise. I’ve bumped your post and skimmed through others about lodging. It looks like Sierra, Dave and Pippin are set.

Sierra:



Our sweet sweet realtor called us, picked us up, and took us to her parents house. We have a private room, bath, and we’re with the kindest people.

Kristin has been talking with an off the grid community in New Mexico, very close to Silver City where my BFF lives! We could actually afford to live there on my social security, a refuge until David’s social security kicks in.

Bill:



They’re staying with kind friends, and have a bed, food, and transport. They already have money (cash in hand) from insurance, a rental car, and will have a hotel room Sunday or Monday.



https://i.imgur.com/F5VZkI8.gif

:bump: Denise's post (Diziblueyez):




Runningdeer, if you are in touch with Sierra, please tell them that I live 15 miles away and if they have any friends or family that need some pet care while they get back on their feet, please, reach out. I am in Nevada City, and many people want to help in some way, many taking loads down to help... Clothes, supplies, toiletries, etc..

We are hearing that they are not letting pets into the shelters. And if you have too many and don't want to shelter them apart from their families, (and I completely understand!) , that those people are sleeping in their vehicles in the night to say with their pets.

There are people offering locally, to house these pets for you until you get back on your feet.. My name on facebook is Denise Stevenson Dyer, and I am seeing these posts, and can help you hook up with some of those people. I being one of them. I have 2 Shih Tzus, but they're very friendly, so if there are birds, dogs, or other animals needing a home temporarily, or permanently, let us know up here, we want to help..


http://avalonlibrary.net/paula/smilies/s-good-night.gif

RunningDeer
14th November 2018, 00:20
Sierra’s GoFundMe Page (https://www.gofundme.com/sierra-fire-relief-paradise-ca?teamInvite=nRq2KkqtaUZSiFUwT62nm6pZpYJZ2VuF0PHB tUMVh7Y7vHw3tDlH3WOvVp00XRBd)
https://i.imgur.com/ZjhiEMI.gif

https://i.imgur.com/HVwThLe.gif

Sstarss
14th November 2018, 16:28
Our dearest Sierra,
so, so sorry for your losses and upsets.
A small contribution and lots of love and comfort,
from here to you and yours there.

:heart::bearhug::bearhug::heart:

Sierra
14th November 2018, 17:42
I said, “I don’t know why I’m crying.” Dave burst out laughing, put both hands on my leg, and said, “Let me show you.” He pulls out a kleenex, holds it up, and simultaneously madly shakes the handkerchief and wildly flaps his other hand at the kleenex, and says, “This is your life right now! I laughed my head off.

The animal rescue people left some food for Martha, but could not find her. They said there were lots of loose animals wandering around. I’ve seen pictures of the burned wildlife. I can’t bear that part.

Martha in the winter sunshine patch:
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Keith. Keith and Rhonda moved in to the downstairs apartment. In exchange for lowered rent, they helped us get the house ready to sell. He laid a new kitchen floor, fixed electrical issues, was putting a new clutch in David’s truck, painted the kitchen, etc. The man is a genius. Rhonda helped us clean and repair. She does home care for the elderly or people dying of cancer. So we utterly lucked out in the angels department, lol.

So we have these next door neighbors whose house burned down a few years ago (the husband was smoking in bed apparently). An Italian grandma, who barely speaks English, the mother with a heavy accent, and a daughter. They have three baying hounds (one of which got out and nearly attacked Dave), a bulldog, a little white dog, and a black retriever. In seven years, none of the dogs have ever been exercised or walked except the bulldog (three times). So you can imagine what a scene it would be to corral these utterly insane, and untrained dogs.

Keith went to every house on our loop to make sure everyone was out. Yes, he is one of the kindest people I have ever met. He doesn’t think about it or consider the cost, he just instantly responds to a need. A lovely gentle and kind couple to live with. I will miss that part so much.

Here is a map of the loop of houses Keith checked. (The map shows our neighborhood has not yet been been checked for burn status. Red means assessors say destroyed. Black means a particular house is safe.):
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Everyone was out except the next door family. They were NOT going to leave. They were going to “save their house”. Keith said he was reduced to swearing and cursing to get them to move. He got all the dogs into his truck, but the family kept running back into to rescue pictures, and vases.

Keith emptied his truck to make room, and lost all his equipment for work.

There were heroes lining Skyway, keeping traffic fair and just. Not just the firemen and policemen, but people in neon vests, waving flashlights, performing traffic control at intersections. Wearing flimsy face masks, in darkness, surrounded by fire, and freaked people on the edge of losing their grip on rules of the road. :heart:

(This is what our Jean-Marie does. Not only is she heavily involved in local politics, boy scout camp, church fund raisers, she is part of the emergency response team (award winning!) in a suburb of Chicago. Jean-Marie helps set up the traffic blocks, and guide traffic, as when Hilary made a campaign stop in her home town.)

Smoker’s Paradise, and Starbucks survived. People will be able to get their coffee and cigs! Very inportant! :ROFL: (And Holiday Market, the source of organic food in Paradise.)

A shoutout to Grocery Outlet, (the other source for some organic and good food heavily discounted in price). They cut final checks for everyone, bought cash for those without bank accounts, and Corporate gave everyone a “substantial bonus”. :heart:
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I bought a few clothes on eBay. (Thank you, thank you, thank you dear hearts! Money is running low, and I dipped into the Sierra fund). :heart:

More kindness of strangers. We have arranged for housing in New Mexico for when we’re done looking for Martha, and have finished all the insurance. We were ORDERED by moderator Kristin lol, to relax, and go out to dinner. Two guys sat at the table next to us and one asked David what was he drinking, a very rich Thai tea with cream so he tried it, and we talked together.

It was funny. I was too exhausted to strain to hear everything or go “what what”, so I did what I often do, just watch the meta communication. He would look at me a lot, and my face would just curl up, he was so nice, and then HIS face would relax and curl, lol. Two conversations at once. They left, and we asked for the bill. The woman came running over with a big grin, and said, “The two boys paid for your meal.” :heart:

Goodwill GAVE us 100.00 for clothes! I now have THREE pairs of jeans, and a pair of jean shorts! A sun hat! Sunglasses! :heart:

Joe from the Carolinas bought me the exact same pair of Asolo hiking boots I used to have. I put them on last night, and I felt SO STABLE! I’m grounded again. It was getting scary, constantly teetering, almost falling. Joe, thank you. :heart:

An eBay seller rescinded payment on a blouse I bought, and is sending me more. Her sister in Atlanta is also sending me clothes. :heart:

We went walking in Caldwell Park, by the Sacramento River, and met a couple who survived the Carr Fire, the biggest in California history, some 400,000 acres. They gave us such good information. One of the tips is a place called Samaritan’s Purse. They will come to your burned residence and sift through your ashes, and apparently they do find stuff. I’m amazed.

Caldwell Park, Redding, Sacramento River:
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I am utterly buffaloed right now. I need to come up with a thank you message for everyone who donated to the go fund me page. I weep instead. Jean is trying to help me but I’m stuck. Need to calm down, sigh.

Did I tell you? We’re in Redding now. I have asthma, and the air quality was so bad in Chico. Our hotel is pet friendly so we are FILLED with people from Paradise. I keep falling in love with our salt of the earth, lol.

Next thing we want to do is find a clunker so we can return the rental car. Keith will cone up to check out engines etc. If y’all would pray we find a reliable car...

As soon as they let people back into Paradise, we’re going to hunt for Martha.

Guys, thank you. I cannot thank you enough. I desperately want to pay it forward, but we can only do little bits here and there. David is on Facebook setting up donations, directing clothes to people in need from sources we have in Washington, etc.

It’s still so extreme, emotionally, a roller coaster of peak highs and crash and burn.

You know all the stuff we take for arthritis, the efforts to do daily walks etc? Well, they WORK. Try extreme stress, no pills, no superfoods, no yoghurt, no walks, locked up in a tin can doing things you must get done, and find out how bad your arthritis really is!!!! :ROFL:

Okay, thank you for letting me do brain dumps.

Odd random thought: Valerie! Of course I know who you are! I love reading what you have to say, lol.

YOU guys are getting us through this. I feel your prayers. I feel your love.

All my love, Sierra the severely banana crackers moderator...

onawah
14th November 2018, 18:12
AURORA TAKES THE SHAPE OF A PHOENIX: "Last night's amazing aurora show over Senja, Norway, was nothing short of magical," reports photographer Adrien Mauduit on Nov. 11th. "During one outburst of lights, this image appeared. Huge colorful pillars took the shape of a fiery bird."
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Dennis Leahy
14th November 2018, 18:16
...
Guys, thank you. I cannot thank you enough. I desperately want to pay it forward, but we can only do little bits here and there. David is on Facebook setting up donations, directing clothes to people in need from sources we have in Washington, etc.

... I feel your love.

All my love, Sierra the severely banana crackers moderator...



"Turn! Turn! Turn!"

To everything - turn, turn, turn
There is a season - turn, turn, turn
And a time to every purpose under heaven

A time to be born, a time to die
A time to plant, a time to reap
A time to kill, a time to heal
A time to laugh, a time to weep

To everything - turn, turn, turn
There is a season - turn, turn, turn
And a time to every purpose under heaven

A time to build up, a time to break down
A time to dance, a time to mourn
A time to cast away stones
A time to gather stones together

To everything - turn, turn, turn
There is a season - turn, turn, turn
And a time to every purpose under heaven

A time of love, a time of hate
A time of war, a time of peace
A time you may embrace
A time to refrain from embracing

To everything - turn, turn, turn
There is a season - turn, turn, turn
And a time to every purpose under heaven

A time to gain, a time to lose
A time to rend, a time to sew
A time for love, a time for hate
A time for peace, I swear it's not too late!



Sierra,

Bless your huge heart and glowing soul that you also want this to be a time for you to reach out and help others, but right now, it's (mostly) time to be on the receiving part of the cycle. For people accustomed to giving, it is somewhat awkward and unfamiliar to be on the receiving end, but remember - that allows other people (all of us cosmic brothers and sisters) to be on the giving end. Let us know how we can help.

Love,

Dennis

RunningDeer
14th November 2018, 19:23
Sierra’s GoFundMe Page (https://www.gofundme.com/sierra-fire-relief-paradise-ca?teamInvite=nRq2KkqtaUZSiFUwT62nm6pZpYJZ2VuF0PHB tUMVh7Y7vHw3tDlH3WOvVp00XRBd)
https://i.imgur.com/D5kC4Lv.gif?1

https://i.imgur.com/HVwThLe.gif

conk
14th November 2018, 20:07
More than willing to make a contribution. Much love!

Spellbound
15th November 2018, 01:04
That's a beautiful picture of your cat Martha. I love black cats (I have 3 tuxedo cats myself). I'm holding out hope that Martha is still alive and you will eventually be reunited.

If anyone hasn't donated yet, please help Sierra, her husband, and current 1 of 2 cats:

Sierra’s GoFundMe Page (https://www.gofundme.com/sierra-fire-relief-paradise-ca?teamInvite=nRq2KkqtaUZSiFUwT62nm6pZpYJZ2VuF0PHB tUMVh7Y7vHw3tDlH3WOvVp00XRBd)

Dave - Toronto

Rachel
15th November 2018, 11:12
At the risk of breaking all the rules of etiquette and unspoken no-nos… thank you, Simon Parkes for your generosity to Sierra (https://www.gofundme.com/sierra-fire-relief-paradise-ca?teamInvite=nRq2KkqtaUZSiFUwT62nm6pZpYJZ2VuF0PHB tUMVh7Y7vHw3tDlH3WOvVp00XRBd) and Geoff Reed (https://www.gofundme.com/geoff-reed-camp-fire-relief).



https://i.imgur.com/MiY04Ap.gif


Me too. Thank you, Simon. :clapping:

Wild. Seeing people lose everything but be so thankful to be alive. Seeing them survive and helping each other out, along with an army of people helping in a multitude of ways (and getting to be a small part of that).

I always believe there are a lot of beautiful people in the world, but I seem to never be able to see it. Now I do, this whole event is humbling.

Bill Ryan
15th November 2018, 12:24
Hi, Folks: I have an update from Sierra, who asked me to post this very short (10 second) video.


http://projectavalon.net/Sierra's_house_burned_down.mp4

Sierra says:




Dave’s cousin Shannon is staying with a Northern California Animal Rescue organization (a relative). She was able to get into Paradise with Animal rescue. Apparently you can hear Shannon calling Martha.

In the beginning of the video, the house next door is still standing. Since this is the house that was rebuilt two years ago, I wonder if it is the new fire codes that saved the house or sheer luck.

Well, David’s orange truck is now white!

RunningDeer
15th November 2018, 23:49
Sierra’s GoFundMe Page (https://www.gofundme.com/sierra-fire-relief-paradise-ca?teamInvite=nRq2KkqtaUZSiFUwT62nm6pZpYJZ2VuF0PHB tUMVh7Y7vHw3tDlH3WOvVp00XRBd)
https://i.imgur.com/yokSSes.gif

https://i.imgur.com/HVwThLe.gif

RunningDeer
16th November 2018, 18:29
Sierra’s GoFundMe Page (https://www.gofundme.com/sierra-fire-relief-paradise-ca?teamInvite=nRq2KkqtaUZSiFUwT62nm6pZpYJZ2VuF0PHB tUMVh7Y7vHw3tDlH3WOvVp00XRBd)
https://i.imgur.com/hNsR1D9.gif
https://i.imgur.com/HVwThLe.gif

Sierra
16th November 2018, 19:25
David was just interviewed live by the BBC, lol. His niece is a popular blogger, and they asked her to do an interview about the Camp Fire. She said I have a relative who lives, lived, in Paradise, so they asked Dave.

Dave is thrilled that he was interviewed because he has been spending most days online on Facebook, publishing resources, helping people set up GFM, find shelter, clothing etc. so he asked them to share his facebook page.

He will be going down to Sacramento soon to pick up old laptops. His cousin runs a security company, and their employees have laptops installed in their vehicles, so he is going to donate bunch of old windows laptops. So cool.

We found a really good tip last night. We had dinner at an Indian restaurant, and Rina, came and talked to us for a long time. Her entire family all up and down Central California have restaurants, and are donating free food. She donated our dinner too. :heart: We found out that Sikh Temples offer free food and shelter all over Central California, so that went on Facebook too. (Shout out to the Royal Indian Cuisine Restaurant, 4.5 stars:

1545 Placer St
Redding, CA 96001

The food was SO good, so comforting, will do a Yelp review. I noticed another reviewer mentioned Rina’s kindness too!

Thank you everyone. David has been able to do this because of your donations, able to buy a heavily discounted antique Dell laptop by a very generous person on Craig’s List. He can’t do things on his iPhone, because it is dying, screen shattered, home button dead (using the option of a virtual home button now), can’t put up or take photos etc. so he is pounding away on the laptop, connecting people. I am SO proud of him.

Four huge fire engines in the parking lot of our hotel. We were sitting on a couch waiting for our laundry to finish, when the two loads of firemen came out of the elevator. They looked exhausted, and happy to be catching some R&R away from the war zone.

http://projectavalon.net/Sierra_image_exhausted_firefighters.jpg

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The air is not so great here either, Even I, the deafie, can hear myself whistling and wheezing. The air quality in Paradise, Chico, down to Sacramento, is classified “extremely hazardous”, the worst category, so I won’t be going with Dave next week to the various animal shelters to hunt for Martha.

The number of animal shelters to search, clear down to David, is immense, so many hurt and lost animals. This is going to take awhile. Dave is also going to stop by the shelter where we adopted Martha, find out the National microchip organization that has our contact info and update our phone number.

I’ve added two more items to the ouch-made-me-cry-list, besides Martha and the photos.

1. My great grandmother’s oil paintings of the California redwoods by the Russian River, framed in art deco plaster of paris painted to match, hand made by her. Oh man...
2. A heavy Irish fisherman’s sweater and an Icelandic pattern sweater in heavy wool from Finland, knitted for me by my mother, and sister, both deceased. Ouch.

Post a must-rescue-list by your front door, be ready and packed if you get an evacuation warning, you won’t remember when the brown stuff hits the fan.

Be CALM when finding, and corralling pets. Always have carriers in easily accessible place. Have a list somewhere of ALL the places your pets hide. We missed the cupboard in the kitchen, we were so freaked.

My dearest bro-in-law was weeping on the phone last night, just utterly intimidated by the insurance hoops he has to jump through. David in 45 years, has never heard him cry. The stress is just... unending.

We hear the hotel neighbors having a stress fight next door on the balcony. We’ve had a few ourselves, believe me. Being married thirty years, we get over them quickly, lol. “Reset”, we say, and cast the fight into oblivion.

I know we shouldn’t, and I know I probably have survivor guilt, but we gave some people hundreds out of the fund. So sue me dearhearts, if you can’t forgive me, but conditions are just so wretched.

Reading your posts is so uplifting. Thank you.

Love, Sierra

Spellbound
16th November 2018, 20:10
I am reading Sierra's above post from work....and my coworkers are asking me if I'm ok as my jaw just dropped to the floor.

Good luck, Sierra!! We're thinking of you.

Dave - Toronto

greybeard
16th November 2018, 20:21
Sierra
Thankfully you survived what must have been an experience from hell.
Its wonderful and natural that you are moved to share with others.

Love and best wishes to you and yours

Chris

Rawhide68
16th November 2018, 22:59
Thank you Sierra for sending news to us, as in the state you are it must be absolutely horrible. I will pray for you and your husband tonight, and your cats, including the one lost maybe hiding.
Did I miss if it´s possible to help somehow economicly?

Valerie Villars
16th November 2018, 23:10
Sierra, the fact you are helping others with the money given to help you is just the best possible thing. God bless all of you. Hang in there. We survived Katrina down here.

Dennis Leahy
16th November 2018, 23:25
...
Did I miss if it´s possible to help somehow economicly?
Hi Rawhide68,

Yes, thanks for asking. In the first post at the top there is a link ("Sierra's GoFundMe Fire Relief link (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?105014-Avalon-Family-Member-Sierra-lost-everything-Go-Fund-Me&p=1258991&viewfull=1#post1258991)") to a fundraiser (https://www.gofundme.com/sierra-fire-relief-paradise-ca?teamInvite=nRq2KkqtaUZSiFUwT62nm6pZpYJZ2VuF0PHB tUMVh7Y7vHw3tDlH3WOvVp00XRBd) for Sierra and her husband.

meeradas
17th November 2018, 07:59
... we gave some people hundreds out of the fund...

Hey Sierra,

my donation came without any conditions - do whatever you feel you have to do with it (and i guess i'm posting this for the majority of, if not all, donors)

RunningDeer
17th November 2018, 09:20
Click here for Sierra’s GoFundMe Page (https://www.gofundme.com/sierra-fire-relief-paradise-ca)
https://i.imgur.com/FUdnEx1.gif

https://i.imgur.com/HVwThLe.gif

pyrangello
17th November 2018, 14:16
Sierra, thanks so much for the update. I've been involved in 3 house fires, one was a rental of mine that the people set intentionally , pieces of crap people they were. Another was a house in the woods I had been going to since I was 5 years old. I watched it burn for 5 hours, 30 firefighters, and then by midnight everyone was gone and I was the only one there standing outside in the dark. I still have flashbacks of all of the sentimental things I had in my house. Cool stuff, autographed stuff, family stuff, pictures, antiques. Just really sucks when you think about it. And the 3rd house was my dads house in Indiana, he was living alone and he didn't make it out. That was 15 years ago. It was a 1600 sq ft house in the hills. The entire house caved into the basement, you couldn't tell what any of it was, the firemen looked for my dad for 3 hours in that small area until they brought the dogs in and found him right away. Tragic in so many ways and yes I miss him. I'd say to this day even after all these years there is still pieces of me that grieve about all of it once and a while but we find a way to move on don't we.

As for the insurance companies, some are good to work with and others not, You just need to stick to your guns, its like a chess game with insurance companies, in each policy the insurance company has already set aside a budget number on what they think the loss is. As with a fire and your things are gone, its almost like an honor system to report what you had so you can get reimbursed or buy it new. I kept stalling my insurance company on my house for the contents settlement because I kept remembering more things that were inside, That's why they try to settle so fast on the contents , because of that reason. As for the house replacements, in my case the insurance company assigned a contractor to put together budget numbers on how much to replace the house, I started challenging there numbers by getting estimates from places like home depot. It was then they wanted to settle with me . Its ok to tell them NO, your not accepting this , time is on your side and then again its not . But in all my cases the longer I took to settle and challenge , the more righteous it was for me in the end. Just some things I have learned and wanted to share with you , you can stand up for yourself and fight, its ok to do that. Keep us updated please, many prayers and hugs , things will get better.

And yes you do what you need to with the funds we all gave , it was donated with compassionate energy by all of us .

Dennis Leahy
17th November 2018, 14:54
... we gave some people hundreds out of the fund...

Hey Sierra,

my donation came without any conditions - do whatever you feel you have to do with it (and i guess i'm posting this for the majority of, if not all, donors)
Hear hear! Agreed.

Billy
17th November 2018, 17:57
... we gave some people hundreds out of the fund...

Hey Sierra,

my donation came without any conditions - do whatever you feel you have to do with it (and i guess i'm posting this for the majority of, if not all, donors)
Hear hear! Agreed.

I wholeheartedly agree also. In fact I shall add that this is one of the most effective ways of donations reaching those in desperate need from people like Sierra and David.
This is what I did when I was an aid worker during the war in Bosnia. I adopted a respected family in the community that had been through the most horrifying experiences. I helped them get back on their feet with the donations I had received with food, clothing and money. When they were back on their feet and because they had boots on the ground and knew everyone in their surroundings who were also desperate. I continued to help them as they past on the donations.

So thank you all for helping Sierra and for Sierra for passing the help on. It is a system that I found works well. :heart:

RunningDeer
17th November 2018, 18:04
Click here for Sierra's GoFundMe Fire Relief (https://www.gofundme.com/sierra-fire-relief-paradise-ca)
https://i.imgur.com/QQvwWyd.gif

https://i.imgur.com/HVwThLe.gif

Truglivartna
17th November 2018, 23:46
Sierra:

Recent article in the Sacramento Bee about locating cats (and others) that survived the fire. Perhaps Martha is here. I just had to put my big black down so I know the empty heart that's left behind.

https://www.sacbee.com/news/state/california/article221803670.html

Kit

RunningDeer
18th November 2018, 22:48
Click here for Sierra's GoFundMe Fire Relief (https://www.gofundme.com/sierra-fire-relief-paradise-ca)
https://i.imgur.com/d5EiWHd.gif

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Dennis Leahy
21st November 2018, 03:01
Bump, and to add a resource for locating Camp Road Fire pets. (I did not see Martha...) https://sites.google.com/view/campfirerescuedanimals/home

RunningDeer
21st November 2018, 12:50
Click here for Sierra's GoFundMe Fire Relief (https://www.gofundme.com/sierra-fire-relief-paradise-ca)
https://i.imgur.com/Q5ehDZQ.gif

https://i.imgur.com/HVwThLe.gif

RunningDeer
21st November 2018, 22:52
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https://i.imgur.com/vToqp1e.gif

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RunningDeer
22nd November 2018, 03:46
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https://i.imgur.com/dEghQ43.gif

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RunningDeer
26th November 2018, 01:31
Click here for Sierra's GoFundMe Fire Relief (https://www.gofundme.com/sierra-fire-relief-paradise-ca)

Bump
https://i.imgur.com/irzKla4.gif


Bob
26th November 2018, 03:58
Sierra - I took a look on the current Butte county fire viewer, and correlated the image with the arrow pointing to WoodLand Drive (Legend), and expanded the view and then looked for ground image views on WoodLand Dr..

This is the legend for the pictures:

http://chanlo.com/images/legend.jpg

Ground based Images 1-5 show below sequentially.

The last house standing (number 6) doesn't have a full ground view.

Possibly there is some hope for Martha. Blessings..

Picture-1
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/attachment.php?attachmentid=39530&d=1543203893

Picture-2
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/attachment.php?attachmentid=39529&d=1543203893

Picture-3
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/attachment.php?attachmentid=39536&d=1543270411

Picture-4
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/attachment.php?attachmentid=39531&d=1543203925

Picture-5
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/attachment.php?attachmentid=39533&d=1543203950

Full-sized images are in this Album: http://projectavalon.net/forum4/album.php?albumid=940

Please look closely at Picture-3 - I zoomed in and circled something odd. I don't know what it is.

http://chanlo.com/images/martha-1.jpg

There are dark colored debris apparently behind. Look at picture 3 above, and note how far the camera is from the "object" in question. Quite far. Go to the Album picture for full size, find the "eyes" if that is what they are.. Very hard to spot at a distance, a fire-inspector on-site would easily miss a stationary kitty. But the "kitty" appears to be looking at the camera, the source of noise it seems, head turned towards the camera flash. I think that is key..

Scale the "eyes" (if that is what they are) to a normal cat's eyes' spacing, that is your dimension reference - remember, this has been taken at quite a distance from the house.. the background is messing with the apparent assumed "face".. (if there is one there)..

and if you remove the "background dark image", then please check, is there a face there, possibly ears? How does a cat sit? What is that pose? Some questions to ask. I asked myself these questions, trying to remain objective.

Scale the eyes and then look at the "paw prints" in the ash on the debris on the "beam", and scale the "tail". Are the objects properly in proportion then? Possibly? Does the tail appear to have hairs burnt?

Possibly paw prints in the ash on the debris? They appear to show smudging as they should. Note the spacing of the "paw" prints. Do they match the spacing of a sitting cat?

Those are our references, remove the background and the bracket going across the body which further complicates the "image". The background and distance are issues.

Possibly a rather burnt curled tail (bottom right part of the object in the circle) ? Possibly an ash splotched kitty. Possibly pareidolia? or Possibly not. I can't tell for sure.

At such a distance it's hard to tell. This image above is NOT corrected, just zoomed in on.

One can do that experimentation on one's own and see. What is there if anything?

I tried some gamma contrast brightness and sharpness adjustment and can see a bent support bracket(?) going over the "object" in question, something(?) hiding behind the support bracket(?) possibly then looking forward towards the camera. The "back" near the tail appears to match the slope and angle of a sitting cat.

The camera flash does what it does with animal eyes, they glow (see below). Just that the background has to be removed from the visual as it is distracting.. Just dunno. The "cat" if there is one there is sitting in-front of a dark piece of debris, in the midst of bent metal.

If I were there I would go back and personally check what this may be. I'm weird when it comes to animals. I'll go out of my way to try to save them. It's just me.

Reference: Looking at a black cat's eyes with a flash, the eye glow, there is a similarity -

https://pinkpodster.files.wordpress.com/2015/12/img_4921.jpg

If I take OUT some of the background debris covering "kitty(?)" this is what it appears to look like:

http://chanlo.com/images/martha-1d.jpg

RunningDeer
27th November 2018, 13:36
:bump:

Click here for Sierra's GoFundMe Fire Relief (https://www.gofundme.com/sierra-fire-relief-paradise-ca)

https://i.imgur.com/HSqen5N.gif

Vangelo
28th November 2018, 01:57
Same here. i trust your judgement.



... we gave some people hundreds out of the fund...

Hey Sierra,

my donation came without any conditions - do whatever you feel you have to do with it (and i guess i'm posting this for the majority of, if not all, donors)

RunningDeer
28th November 2018, 02:26
Click here for Sierra's GoFundMe Fire Relief (https://www.gofundme.com/sierra-fire-relief-paradise-ca)
https://i.imgur.com/xzxQAW2.gif

https://i.imgur.com/HVwThLe.gif

RunningDeer
1st December 2018, 09:53
:bump:


Click here for Sierra's GoFundMe Fire Relief (https://www.gofundme.com/sierra-fire-relief-paradise-ca)

https://i.imgur.com/c2Pz4WJ.gif

RunningDeer
1st December 2018, 14:44
Click here for Sierra's GoFundMe Fire Relief (https://www.gofundme.com/sierra-fire-relief-paradise-ca)
https://i.imgur.com/iOJYy44.gif

https://i.imgur.com/HVwThLe.gif

RunningDeer
14th December 2018, 09:27
Updated total:

Click here for Sierra's GoFundMe Fire Relief (https://www.gofundme.com/sierra-fire-relief-paradise-ca)
A big thanks to All.
https://i.imgur.com/cyIuEco.gif

https://i.imgur.com/HVwThLe.gif

meeradas
20th December 2018, 07:22
Any Sierra/cat updates (apart from GoFundMe)?

RunningDeer
28th December 2018, 20:13
Updated total:

https://i.imgur.com/tBfvrxI.gif

Click here for Sierra's GoFundMe Fire Relief (https://www.gofundme.com/sierra-fire-relief-paradise-ca)
A big thanks to All.
https://i.imgur.com/cyIuEco.gif

https://i.imgur.com/HVwThLe.gif

avid
28th December 2018, 20:28
Please let us know how Sierra is, and if she was able to get any news of Martha.

I was disgusted that the authorities refused rescuers access ‘in case pets were wrongly appropriated’, yet many pets were left desperately needing help.

Then there was an image of Paradise ice rink lately... this defies logic, in fact is totally horrendous. So many unreported missing, a vile atrocity by those evil entities purporting to represent humanity in government. If I looked at my comment here a few years ago, I would say to myself “don’t be stupid”, but now I know I am NOT stupid, and will not be duped ever again.

RunningDeer
28th December 2018, 21:35
Please let us know how Sierra is, and if she was able to get any news of Martha.

I was disgusted that the authorities refused rescuers access ‘in case pets were wrongly appropriated’, yet many pets were left desperately needing help.

Then there was an image of Paradise ice rink lately... this defies logic, in fact is totally horrendous. So many unreported missing, a vile atrocity by those evil entities purporting to represent humanity in government. If I looked at my comment here a few years ago, I would say to myself “don’t be stupid”, but now I know I am NOT stupid, and will not be duped ever again.
avid is a sweetie pie. https://i.imgur.com/Vlz1VQ6.gif


https://i.imgur.com/F5VZkI8.gif

I’m not in touch with Sierra. Based on an earlier post, it could be that Sierra, Dave and Pippin are busy setting up their new home.

Sierra wrote:



Kristin has been talking with an off the grid community in New Mexico, very close to Silver City where my BFF lives! We could actually afford to live there on my social security, a refuge until David’s social security kicks in.

Sierra
31st December 2018, 00:38
No Martha
No Yelly Belly Bellicose Baby
No Martha Siddhartha
No Squeaky Mouse
No Martha Baby Cakes

Martha Four Paws
Martha Mouse
Martha Big Eyes

I feel so wretched for how scared and hurting she must have been.

I won’t get another cat, because I’m seventy, and McKnao lived to be 18, despite his diabetes, and twice daily shots. It devastates me, to think of my baby in middle or old age looking for adoption if I died, cause people don’t adopt older cats. I feel so bereft at the idea of life without a cat to love. Maybe I can find an older cat that will love me. I worry about Pippin though. Pippin is really hard on other cats... kind of a bully actually.

While Pippin only sleeps with me, he only cuddles with his daddy. I’ll have to make a video of what Pippin thinks a cuddle is. It hilarious.

I’m not giving up. We’ll go back and call her some more. David wants to try and find her bones. I would treasure some bones. They would go into a Shaman bag.

Much later:

I am coming out of my shell.

I have a movie of our little neighborhood. I haven’t converted it yet, Bill will help me post it.

We’re back in Chico now. It’s much better here.

I got the flu, then I got bronchitis. Got the flu again, and have an ear infection now. Sheesh.

Pyrangelo, Truglvartna, thank you for sharing. It hurts so bad. Pauler, I love you. I KNOW I will feel okay eventually, but even trying to write this has me sobbing so hard I can’t see. I just hate that Martha died terrified alone hurting. It just breaks me. The regret I feel.

I have never been able to shove my mind away from a bad thought before. I can now. If I catch it fast enough, and think about something else.

Okay, enough. I will get past this. I just have to cry when I need to cry and then I’m okay for awhile.

Insurance is giving us an allowance for food and rent, so we’re in the process of renting a house in New Mexico. We’re relieved because even though the place Kristin connected us to sounds like utter Paradise, my husband just can’t walk with a cane to the outhouse a football field away.

This was brought home to us during the flu, lol. We would have had to wear diapers to make it to the outhouse. Yes, I know, gross and TMI.

We’re still invited to come and visit the secret commune so I look forward to that. I want to meet these people very much. Our sponsor, Wayne, asked Dave a question, which Dave passed on to me, saying I was the one up to speed on the topic. Wayne asked what did I think of David Wilcock, which had me in hysterics.

Oh dear, I hope Wayne doesn’t admire him or something, because I don’t. Ever since the biggest ego on the planet said he was a reincarnation of the extremely modest, retiring, and accurate, repeat, accurate reader of past and future events, and healing modalities. Dumbfounding. WHY on earth would one so severely devolve in character, honesty, and spirit, between one lifetime and the next? It makes no sense.

I’ve bought coats, ugg boots, mittens, shawls, and a sweater as well as tops and pants. THANK YOU. You are utter dear hearts. I used to wear a lot of neutrals, white, beige, taupe, black. Now I look like a Swedish child’s storybook in red, blue, yellow, green, lol. The new coats are still proper neutral colors so I can cover up if I look too exuberant, lol.

The car we abandoned on the day of the fire to walk down Skyway, survived, er, did not burn up actually. I found my sister’s cotton dress and Turkish coat in the trunk which made me SO happy. And a wool jacket that was in the seat. It has tiny burns on it. I want to embroider “Paradise Strong” around the burns, lol.

We’ve been going up to the house calling Martha, rooting through the ashes, and leaving bags of apples for the deer (people have been asked to feed the wild life, because they are going hungry). It’s really nice to sit and look at the view. Lots of neighbors also rooting for surviving items. The things that survived are the stone items. Plant pots, a stone goose, the Buddha and the bench... and a little iron antique toy truck. Paul went through the Avalon backups and I have some pictures of McKnao (my avatar) and a few pictures of Martha.

The neighbor across the street has four chickens who came to visit us lol. She said she let them out into the back yard as usual on the day of the fire, and went to work in Sacramento. They all survived! So did her house! Not a scratch on the chickens, beautiful feathers in perfect condition.

Our insurance is pretty good. Not as good as State Farm and Farmers. We’ve heard they’ve disbursed 100% in all categories at least to some people. We’re getting 50% in the property category and will have to make lists of the house contents, despite the governor asking the insurance companies to automatically disburse 75%. Hoo boy. That is not going to be fun. Pyrangelo, we will not settle quickly. Thank you for the information, so good to know.

I’ll post pictures of the view and the neighborhood video soon.

I love you. You are such good people. Bill, thank you for this community.

avid
31st December 2018, 00:58
Huge hugs, thank you sooo much for the latest news, heartbreaking and heartening in turn. Keep well, so glad you have bright new clothes in which to be cheerful. :heart::muscle::cat: xxxxx

onawah
31st December 2018, 01:42
I hear you, Sierra, about the cat especially. I had a kitty for 12 years who died a few years ago and though I miss her like crazy and would love to have another cat, I am 70 now, and could not bear to leave a homeless cat behind, plus I don't have the income to take proper care of one anymore, especially an older cat.
What about a portable composting potty to eliminate trips to the outhouse?
So nice to hear from you and the news that you are recovering.
Hugs, Natalie



I won’t get another cat, because I’m seventy, and McKnao lived to be 18, despite his diabetes, and twice daily shots. It devastates me, to think of my baby in middle or old age looking for adoption if I died, cause people don’t adopt older cats. I feel so bereft at the idea of life without a cat to love. Maybe I can find an older cat that will love me. I worry about Pippin though. Pippin is really hard on other cats... kind of a bully actually.

RunningDeer
31st December 2018, 02:24
Dearest Sierra,

I’m happy to know you all are doing well in the larger scheme of things. Weird how those sad moments can take up so much space.
.....................https://i.imgur.com/f3YN0e3.gif

I enjoyed your post. It’s alive with visual texture and those signature-Sierra-sillies sprinkled in.

https://i.imgur.com/RJT1PoO.gif

Same here. I’d love a new puppy. But I worry that if something happened to me no one would know to come help him.

With heart and love,
Paula ♡

PS Ugg boots rock! I weatherproof mine with silicon spray and replace the insoles (https://www.zappos.com/p/ugg-uggpure-replacement-insole-natural/product/8929089/color/19).

pyrangello
31st December 2018, 03:02
I'm very sorry about your cat Sierra, if your cat has passed on , you will be reunited one day again :).Hugs .

As for the insurance company, When my one house burned down , the insurance company said they would rebuild and replace the house as that's what the insurance was for OR they would give me a 60% cash buyout. If your at 50% on the property you may be way more ahead to have them rebuild and then just sell it. I kept telling my adjuster if your going to jam me for 40% then rebuild the house and I just may sell it when its done. Then I reviewed their contractor who gave the estimate to rebuild my house because that's the number the insurance company uses. Their contractor had 6k in for baseboard hot water heat which included the boiler,lol. Home depots contractor came back with an estimate of 12,500.00 to replace what was exactly there. Same for the windows, I had 1 window 8ft x 8ft. There contractor gave an estimate of $1000.00 to replace the window so they were going to give me $600.00 if I didn't replace it. I told them to replace it, The window costs was $3200.00 not including installation. After a few more rounds with the adjuster he wanted to settle with me because that original number of rebuilding the house estimate was going up weekly by me challenging them with other estimates .In 2 weeks I had the rebuild costs up another 40k and that was only on a few items . If they keep using their contractors numbers your already starting in the hole? I think if I remember right I ended up at around 80% of what the rebuild costs would have been. In Michigan they have 6 months to settle the claims and close the case.

I also had an inside track on what the entire claim could be , the insurance company puts a set aside number on what the maximum costs could be contents and property. They put a number on it that was 40% higher than what everything actually settled for just so you know its ok to challenge, present new bids ect ect.

As for the contents, on my dads property it took me 40 hours to categorize and find replacement costs for every item in the house. Then they depreciate the items based on how old. Some things came in higher and some things came in lower. Like all my movie collection 500, they gave me $2.00 for each movie which sucked, then on a rabbit head mount they gave me 3 times what I paid for it. Its aggravating, its frustrating, and stepping back for a week when your tired of it is a good thing, recharge and then go to battle again. On my dads property the insurance company approved some items and then other items not. Then I would take what they didn't pay , redo the list and resubmit the same stuff. One adjuster over the phone told me my dad couldn't have a bedroom set like the one I was saying because he didn't live that type of lifestyle! Lets just say its a good thing he was on a phone and not by me in person........................................... So just know how the game is played and then it won't be so frustrating, PM me as your going thru this if you need anymore assistance or I will give you my cell number. You'll be fine in the end, just stick to your guns, if they tell you they need to know by 5 pm today , tell them you need time to think about it and 5pm won't work. My adjuster told me to call him back right away, my right away took me a week.

Stay on your path, take deep breathes and just keep knowing everything will work out eventually and it will. Faith young lady!

Valerie Villars
31st December 2018, 12:59
Sierra, I once read an account of a doctor who was stabbed by a patient of his. He insisted he was out of his body while the terror and pain was being experienced. He said he was with a very loving and protective presence and felt no pain.

I am sure Little Martha had the same protection. :heart:

RunningDeer
31st December 2018, 14:13
Sierra, I once read an account of a doctor who was stabbed by a patient of his. He insisted he was out of his body while the terror and pain was being experienced. He said he was with a very loving and protective presence and felt no pain.

I am sure Little Martha had the same protection. :heart:
Val, your post reminded me of an old one of mine. In case more context is needed: I live in a complex on a farm where my landlady and her husband raise horses, chickens and tend to their organic garden (among other things). One of my neighbors shared in the chores in trade for a place for her horse. This particular morning, I didn't know Mikie, her dog had passed.

Repost:

I read where some pets large and small meet up with their love ones and carry on. I found comfort in that knowledge. Shortly after, I experienced it first hand:




My neighbor, Barbara had a dog named, Mikie. As part of his training, she’d walk him around the circle driveway, and also he’d accompanied her with the chores like empty trash and care for the horses. Always the same trot from both of them, and same hand positions with the leash.

One morning, Barbara emptied the trash and came around the circle. Only this time, she walked with an invisible leash, the same hand positions as usual. And Mikie? He was trotting right by her side only in his light-body. I blinked a couple of times, still in disbelief.

That afternoon, Barbara dug a deep hole with the farm equipment next to the horse fence. Then she walked the circle alone with a wrapped up bundle. She lowered herself into the knee deep hole, and gently laid her Mikie to rest.


RunningDeer
31st December 2018, 15:03
Click here for Sierra's GoFundMe Fire Relief (https://www.gofundme.com/sierra-fire-relief-paradise-ca)
https://i.imgur.com/qka4At8.gif


https://i.imgur.com/HVwThLe.gif

Flash
31st December 2018, 18:58
Mikkie story reminds me of Noirette. Mini Flash, my daughter, got a black cat she chose amongst a whole litter when she was 6 years old. I had gotten that cat for her because she could barely organise her sentences and speak, and apart from me, nobody had the patience to wait and wait for her to finish her sentences.

I thought she could tell all her problems to her cat, who would be patient. And, as foreseen, this is what happened. Noirette and Mini Flash built a strong relationship, Noirette sleeping with Mini Flash and miauwing the hell out when Mini would not be home.

Well,one (correction, fout years ago, wowww time flies) year ago Noirette got very sick and we had to put her down. Mini Flash came with me to the vet and we both assisted our little one for her departure. When daughter could stop crying, we came back home in the car (few blocks). And Mini Flash saw Us passing Noirette in her light body walking back home on the sidewalk.

Sierra, both Mini and I are full of compassion for you and your cat.

onawah
31st December 2018, 21:25
I have a friend who is an animal psychic, though retired now, I think.
She would have people send her photos of their pets and any questions they might have.
She would go into trance and talk to the animals, who would tell her all kinds of interesting things, including about past lives when they had been with the same owner.
Animals reincarnate too, and when they forge strong bonds with humans, it helps them to progress as more consciously sentient beings.
And when we have strong emotional bonds with animals, it enables them to return to us again and again, in new bodies.
My friend says that they make the transitions much more easily than we do, as they don't have the same kind of amnesia, and having shorter lifespans may help as well.
I imagine the other dimensions are not so far away, from their perspective...

Hazelfern
31st December 2018, 21:32
I have a friend who is an animal psychic, though retired now, I think.
She would have people send her photos of their pets and any questions they might have.
She would go into trance and talk to the animals, who would tell her all kinds of interesting things, including about past lives when they had been with the same owner.
Animals reincarnate too, and when they forge strong bonds with humans, it helps them to progress as more consciously sentient beings.
And when we have strong emotional bonds with animals, it enables them to return to us again and again, in new bodies.
My friend says that they make the transitions much more easily than we do, as they don't have the same kind of amnesia, and having shorter lifespans may help as well.
I imagine the other dimensions are not so far away, from their perspective...

Very comforting O, thank you for confirming.

Dennis Leahy
31st December 2018, 21:57
Hi SierraDeb! You're 70, not 103. When you are ready for another cat (or puppy or rhinoceros or manta ray) you should go ahead and get one. Whatever length of time that sentient critter gets to be in your company and to receive your attention and affection is as good as you can offer, and, in my opinion, blessed. The living always have to carry on, and the living always do - even if we could not visualize the process ahead of time. You know, the old, "Life goes on within you and without you" thing. Don't assume a bad outcome for your furry (or feathered or scaly or bald) friend after you abandon your body, just give what you can while you're alive and capable and still inhabiting it.

pyrangello seems to be giving great advice, but it sounds like your insurance company is going to need a bit of "enhanced interrogation" techniques applied to them for you to get a fair settlement. Whereas government agencies are immune to bad publicity, corporations - such as insurance companies - are not.

So much upheaval and trauma you've been through! May it be warm enough to allow you to set aside your neutral overcoats and blossom your spring colors. The phrase "hot springs" is what just popped to mind - are there any cane-walking accessible hot springs anywhere in the area, where you could soak?

onawah
31st December 2018, 22:05
As someone in a similar situation re kitties (though not in nearly as big a transition) as Sierra, I would love to "rent a kitty" part time from a younger, healthier friend with the ability to pay for the kitty's vet bills if needed, who wouldn't mind sharing.
My kitty died because we were snowed in when she got ill and I couldn't get her to the vet, which I couldn't afford in any case.
It's a very painful situation for a cat lover, and one that's not easily recovered from, even in spite of what I know about animals and their ability to easily transition.

Indigris
31st December 2018, 23:30
I'm so sorry about your dear cat. I recently lost my baby boy, Pancho. He was only 7 and got very sick out of the blue. We think a bee got him, but we ultimately don't know. All we know is that he suffered and that he was alone when he passed away. So to a lesser degree, I understand the guilt and regret you feel 100%. I loved that little dog like family, and cried like I never, ever did before when we got the call. I'm still crying now, as I write this post, and I have been tearing up virtually every single day since his passing on November 2. A good day now, is one where I don't cry :)

I don't know about reincarnation or all that stuff, but I hope that he wasn't in too much pain by the end, and that he's at peace. The hardest part isn't his absence (even though I miss him enormously every day and will never not miss him again), but the guilt over his death. He was alone and scared and in pain. The guilt, it rips you up. But what I've started doing, is every time I get an intrusive thought (mainly traumatic images of him at the vet, looking scared or in obvious pain), I immediately think of a happy memory of him. There are plenty. It's always a bittersweet moment (I've broken down crying at the doctor's, the grocery store, etc.), but that seems like a better way to honor his memory, to me.

When and if you're ready, maybe you can go to a shelter and adopt a senior kitty. I would do the same if I weren't so allergic to the sweet babies. I know for a fact the shelters in my area are positively teeming with older kitties needing love. And they're usually the sweetest ones, too.

May your Martha be well, and if she is gone, then may it have been quick. And who knows, maybe one day you'll be reunited.

All I can say is, I understand your pain, and I am truly sorry. Pets are not pets; they are family.

RunningDeer
1st January 2019, 00:45
Sorry for your loss, Indigris. https://i.imgur.com/Wfi0NBS.gif
Pancho is a cutie!

https://i.imgur.com/gywX5EP.jpg


I'm so sorry about your dear cat. I recently lost my baby boy, Pancho. He was only 7

Arcturian108
1st January 2019, 02:26
Sierra, I am on the Butte County notification list and today I found their cat photos. There are so many black cats waiting for their owners, so maybe, just maybe your cat is one of these?
https://sites.google.com/view/campfirerescuedanimals/cats

RunningDeer
1st January 2019, 02:42
Sierra, I am on the Butte County notification list and today I found their cat photos. There are so many black cats waiting for their owners, so maybe, just maybe your cat is one of these?
https://sites.google.com/view/campfirerescuedanimals/cats
Wow!, that's a lot of cats, Arcturian108. http://avalonlibrary.net/paula/smilies/cat.gif
I've flagged your post in hopes that the mods can pass it along sooner.

RunningDeer
8th January 2019, 01:57
Click here for Sierra's GoFundMe Fire Relief (https://www.gofundme.com/sierra-fire-relief-paradise-ca)
https://i.imgur.com/tUkMzVk.gif


https://i.imgur.com/HVwThLe.gif

RunningDeer
9th January 2019, 05:45
Click here for Sierra's GoFundMe Fire Relief (https://www.gofundme.com/sierra-fire-relief-paradise-ca)
https://i.imgur.com/FLskFyL.gif

https://i.imgur.com/HVwThLe.gif

RunningDeer
15th January 2019, 22:34
Click here for Sierra's GoFundMe Fire Relief (https://www.gofundme.com/sierra-fire-relief-paradise-ca)
https://i.imgur.com/ijJnxPV.gif


https://i.imgur.com/HVwThLe.gif

Ken
23rd January 2019, 22:50
Additional Paradise cat info that I just came across. Still being updated. Cats are still being reunited with their humans :heart:

I imagine Sierra follows these sites but just in case, I figured I'd leave them here for the Mods to forward along.

Found and Unclaimed Camp Fire Animals:

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1frso_Mhqkm0oJw5e7hinUlbPl1DXQ7JS/view

And here's a photo of MANY flyers posted at Ponderosa Elementary School in Paradise:

https://i1076.photobucket.com/albums/w460/ForestDenizen/Ponderosa%20Elementary%20School_zpsxqytp1ih.jpg

:flower: :flower: :flower:

avid
23rd January 2019, 23:28
Praying Martha can be found.... xxx However, this vast sad evidence of lots of needy pets who need loving safe homes, wishing I lived on another continent to help. These vile perpetrators of globalistic greed will never attain a clean soul.
Much love to Sierra, her family, and all those who are still suffering.

RunningDeer
23rd January 2019, 23:31
Additional Paradise cat info that I just came across. Still being updated. Cats are still being reunited with their humans :heart:

I imagine Sierra follows these sites but just in case, I figured I'd leave them here for the Mods to forward along.

Thank you, Ken. https://i.imgur.com/3x9om0z.gif Wow! 769 pages. Many now reunited. http://avalonlibrary.net/paula/smilies/cat.gif
I've forward your post along to speed up the process.

Bob
24th January 2019, 00:49
Any way anyone can help Sierra to get to that location, or her significant other, to check out the pets physically and the list?

It just sure seems to me that we did see her in the rubble at the house, when we zoomed in that day.. Hopefully somebody did pick her kitty up and got her somewhere.