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GaelVictor
25th June 2019, 19:11
Machine Learning "fairness" system exposed by google insider;

Aaand.. Youtube deleted the video again, here is another link;
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recently deleted by Youtube;
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meeradas
25th June 2019, 20:39
This will be taken down again... here's an alternative link:

https://www.bitchute.com/video/re9Xp6cdkro/


Update: See, it took a litlle over 24 hrs for it to be gone... no wonder, Youtube is Google.

Jad
25th June 2019, 22:20
We are smart enough here not to believe everything we read online but can you imagine how many billions of people who use Google daily and take the information they find there as gospel? Is that not mind control? The scary part is that most people don’t even go beyond the first page of results cause they automatically think that the front page is the one with the most relevant results.

Arcturian108
25th June 2019, 23:20
Not seeing this discussed yet on mainstream news. Can't wait til it is. Please if you see it anywhere mention it in this thread. I have only seen it on Drudge.

Arcturian108
26th June 2019, 00:14
Just donated some money to Project Veritas,for the wonderful job they just did with their new video. They are a 501C chariity in case you are an American and can use the tax deduction.

Intranuclear
26th June 2019, 00:24
I'm not sure I comprehend the issues discussed in the video.
Is it because Google wants to skew politics to ensure that the next president is not like Trump?
Or is it a discussion about fairness in machine learning?

Machine learning bias is absolutely an issue and Google has a whole bunch of open documentation available: https://developers.google.com/machine-learning/fairness-overview/

A trivial example they point out is when you feed the machine of what a scientist looks like by training it with images of past famous scientists, the machine "learns" that a scientist is a man with a high probablility and a woman with a low probability.
Well, that may be true but it is certainly biased, so people complained and they started publishing papers to address the issue because their search engines were not representing everyone.

Having said that, because "bias" is a control to the ML, anyone who has access to the system can dial up whatever they want and all of a sudden people doing searches see what the person controlling wants them to see (for the most part).

Clearly that IS a problem as it gives godlike powers to someone who can remain anonymous and shape people's minds.

So if that is the issue, then the concerns are justified as no single individual should wield such power.

Personally I have come to despise most of how Google's search engine works now vs 10 years ago. Ten years ago I was almost always able to find what I needed very quickly, but now I have to "bias" my search in order to get what I want. It is highly frustrating especially when I look for technical solutions, so I end up spending a lot of time visiting sites I don't want (clickbait) and then refine my search terms to get to what I actually need.

I have tried Yahoo, Duckduckgo, Bing and they all mostly have copied Google and have mostly deteriorated. I guess they all want to make money.

Not sure how to solve this.

Clarity
26th June 2019, 00:26
Google is now censoring Health related websites even if these websites back up their advice/products with plenty of scientific research.

https://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2018/01/24/eliminate-google-from-your-life.aspx

Arcturian108
26th June 2019, 00:51
Tucker Carlson on Fox News live from Japan had a segment tonight about this Google algorithm business that was spot on. Early on the Project Veritas video the whistle-blower makes it perfectly clear that Google has its own special double-think definition of "fairness" that skews reality in the direction of the famous dystopian novel 1984. So Intranuclear: please read that book first to understand how such a dystopia works and why the current situation at Google resembles that dystopia.

Delight
26th June 2019, 01:26
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Senator Cruz Grills Google Executive Over Insider Story

(https://www.projectveritas.com/2019/06/25/senator-cruz-grills-google-executive-over-insider-story/)
On June 25 2019, during a US Senate Committee hearing, Texas Senator Ted Cruz questioned Ms. Maggie Stanphill, Director of Google User Experience over the findings of Project Veritas’ recent investigative report featuring insider testimony, undercover video of a Google executive, and leaked internal documents. Said Senator Cruz:

“Well I think these, these documents raise very serious questions about political bias.”

You can watch a video clip of the hearing here:

Below is a partial transcript of the exchange between Senator Cruz and Ms. Stanphill.

CRUZ: Are you familiar with the report that was released yesterday from Veritas, that included a whistleblower from within Google that included videos from a senior executive at Google, and it included documents that are reportedly internal powerpoint documents from google.

GOOGLE: Yes I heard about that report in news.

CRUZ: Have you seen the report?

GOOGLE: No I did not.

CRUZ: So you didn’t review the report to prepare fr this meeting?

GOOGLE: It’s been a busy day and I have a day job which is Digital Well-being at Google so I’m trying to make sure…

CRUZ: Well I’m sorry that this meeting is impinging on your day job.

GOOGLE: It’s a great opportunity thank you.

CRUZ: One of the things in that report and I would recommend people interested in political bias at Google watch the entire report and judge for themselves, there’s a video from a woman Jen Gennai, it’s a secret video that was recorded, Jen Gennai as I understand is the head of responsible innovation for google. Are you familiar with Miss Gennai?

GOOGLE: I work in user experience and I believe that AI group is somebody is somebody that works on AI principles. But it’s a big company and I don’t work directly with Jen.

CRUZ: Do you know her or no?

GOOGLE: I do not know Jen.

CRUZ: As I understand that she is shown in the video saying, and this is a quote, “Elizabeth warren is saying that we should break up google. And like I love her, but she is very misguided. Like that will not make it better. It will make it worse. Because all these smaller companies who don’t have the same resources that we do, will be charged with preventing the next trump situation. It’s like a small company cannot do that.” Do you think its Google’s job to quote, “prevent the next trump situation?”

GOOGLE: Thank you senator. I don’t agree with that. No sir.

CRUZ: So a different individual, a whistleblower identified simply as an insider at Google with knowledge of the algorithm, was quoted on the same report as saying, google is quote “bent on never letting someone like Donald Trump come to power again.” You think its google’s job to make sure quote “somebody like Donald Trump never comes to power again?”

GOOGLE: No sir I don’t think that is Google’s job and we build for everyone including every single religious belief, every single demographic, every single region, and certain every single political affiliation.

CRUZ: Well I have to say that certainly doesn’t appear to be the case. Of the senior executives at Google, do you know a single one that voted for Donald Trump?

GOOGLE: Thank you senator. I’m a user experience director and I work on google digital well-being, I can tell you we have diverse use…

CRUZ: Did you know of anyone that voted for Trump.

GOOGLE: I definitely know of people that voted for Trump.

CRUZ: Of the senior executives at Google.

GOOGLE: I don’t talk politics with my workmates.

CRUZ: Is that a no?

GOOGLE: Sorry is that a no to what?

CRUZ: DO you know any senior executives, even a single senior executive at the company that voted for Donald Trump?

GOOGLE: as the digital well-being expert I don’t think this is in my purview to comment… I definitely don’t know…



CRUZ: Let’s talk about one of the PowerPoints that was leaked. The Veritas report has Google internally saying “I propose we make machine learning intentionally human centered and intervene for fairness.” Is this document accurate?

GOOGLE: Thank you sir, I don’t know about this document so I don’t know.

CRUZ: Okay I’m going to ask you to respond to the committee in writing afterwards as to whether this PowerPoint and the other documents are included in the veritas report, whether those are accurate. And I recognize that your lawyers may want to write explanation, you’re welcome to write all the explanation that you want but I also want a simple clear answer is this an accurate document that was generated by google. Do you agree with the sentiment expressed in this document?

GOOGLE: No sir I do not.

CRUZ: Going to read you another, also in this report, it indicates that Google according this whistleblower, deliberately makes recommendations if someone is searching for conservative commentators, deliberately shifts the recommendations so instead of recommending other conservative commentators it recommends organizations like CNN or MSNBC or left leaning political outlets. Is that occurring?

GOOGLE: Thank you sir, I can’t comment I can’t comment on search algorithms or recommendations given my purview as Digital Well-being lead. I can take that back to my team though.

CRUZ: So is it part of Digital Well-being for search recommendations to reflect the where user wants to go than deliberately shifting where they want to go?

GOOGLE: As a user experience professional, we focus on delivering on user goals. So we try to get out of the way and on the task at hand.

CRUZ: So a final question, one of these documents that was leaked explains what Google is doing and it has a series of stamps, training data, collected and classified, algorithms are programmed, media are filtered ranked and aggregated, and that ends with, people, parenthesis, like us, are programmed. Does Google view its job as programming people with search results?

GOOGLE: Thank you senator. I can’t speak for the whole entire company, but I can tell you that we make sure that we put our users first in design.

CRUZ: Well I think these questions, these documents raise very serious questions about political bias.

7:29 video excerpt from hearing here (https://www.projectveritas.com/2019/06/25/senator-cruz-grills-google-executive-over-insider-story/)

Jad
26th June 2019, 06:02
What’s really sad is how casual and smug she (Jen Gennai) was talking about all this especially about the part where Google does not give a flying **** about these congressional hearings. On a personal note, back in 2009 I used to work with a car rental company in Mountain View California and we had a satellite office inside Google’s campus to manage for them a fleet of hybrid cars that their employees had access to run personal errands. So I spent time on the Google campus and I interacted a lot with their employees. The whole vibe there is so fake and cult-like, the employees are literally brainwashed to think that they are working for the best company in the world and that they are making the world a better place. I am very happy that there are a few employees over there like this whistleblower who can see beyond the fake smiles and handshakes and actually do something about it.

Intranuclear
26th June 2019, 21:58
Tucker Carlson on Fox News live from Japan had a segment tonight about this Google algorithm business that was spot on. Early on the Project Veritas video the whistle-blower makes it perfectly clear that Google has its own special double-think definition of "fairness" that skews reality in the direction of the famous dystopian novel 1984. So Intranuclear: please read that book first to understand how such a dystopia works and why the current situation at Google resembles that dystopia.

If you mean the book 1984, I read that in high school and have seen the movie and endless discussions on the topic. That book pales in comparison to what exists today.
When I read that as a teen I was terrified, and having been in the computer industry (still am) and in fact currently working with machine learning, I am terribly aware of the misuses of ML.

AI will get better all the time and if people don't keep up or blindly trust those "giving" them all kinds of cool new toys, then viruses, identity theft and eavesdropping will be the least of their worries.

It is terribly obvious that information is power and that cuts both ways. It is critical to understand the human motivation for automation and wish to control its destiny. AI was a natural consequence to understand the human brain, specifically how the neurons function. If you ask anyone actually working on AI, myself included, they will all tell you that currently available hardware is many many orders of magnitude inferior even to a single neuron. However, even in its current state, it is good enough to outperform most tasks that are repetitive or logic or information based, including lawyers, doctors, even many scientists.

One of the things I worked on was to use ML to reproduce physics. To get a better feel see: https://physicstoday.scitation.org/doi/full/10.1063/PT.3.4164

Because Google is a public company and has many thousands of extremely smart and passionate, enthusiastic young people working for them, usually their employees are the first to be disgusted by much of Google's actions, such as developing weapons for the Pentagon.

The thing to be most vigilant about is the people who usurp Google's ubiquity, such as the NSA and many many others, who have an undisclosed agendas.

Think about it, it does not take much to threaten someone or their family well positioned inside Google and make then do things that they otherwise would never dream of doing. No sane person at Google wants their company destroyed and their livelihoods gone.

If you want to be terrified, then it is critical to see the future of AI, the ability to simulate protein folding in better than "real time" (meaning faster than nature). It is the Holy Grail of ultimate excitement and terror.

Pam
26th June 2019, 22:20
Tucker Carlson on Fox News live from Japan had a segment tonight about this Google algorithm business that was spot on. Early on the Project Veritas video the whistle-blower makes it perfectly clear that Google has its own special double-think definition of "fairness" that skews reality in the direction of the famous dystopian novel 1984. So Intranuclear: please read that book first to understand how such a dystopia works and why the current situation at Google resembles that dystopia.

If you mean the book 1984, I read that in high school and have seen the movie and endless discussions on the topic. That book pales in comparison to what exists today.
When I read that as a teen I was terrified, and having been in the computer industry (still am) and in fact currently working with machine learning, I am terribly aware of the misuses of ML.

AI will get better all the time and if people don't keep up or blindly trust those "giving" them all kinds of cool new toys, then viruses, identity theft and eavesdropping will be the least of their worries.

It is terribly obvious that information is power and that cuts both ways. It is critical to understand the human motivation for automation and wish to control its destiny. AI was a natural consequence to understand the human brain, specifically how the neurons function. If you ask anyone actually working on AI, myself included, they will all tell you that currently available hardware is many many orders of magnitude inferior even to a single neuron. However, even in its current state, it is good enough to outperform most tasks that are repetitive or logic or information based, including lawyers, doctors, even many scientists.

One of the things I worked on was to use ML to reproduce physics. To get a better feel see: https://physicstoday.scitation.org/doi/full/10.1063/PT.3.4164

Because Google is a public company and has many thousands of extremely smart and passionate, enthusiastic young people working for them, usually their employees are the first to be disgusted by much of Google's actions, such as developing weapons for the Pentagon.

The thing to be most vigilant about is the people who usurp Google's ubiquity, such as the NSA and many many others, who have an undisclosed agendas.

Think about it, it does not take much to threaten someone or their family well positioned inside Google and make then do things that they otherwise would never dream of doing. No sane person at Google wants their company destroyed and their livelihoods gone.

If you want to be terrified, then it is critical to see the future of AI, the ability to simulate protein folding in better than "real time" (meaning faster than nature). It is the Holy Grail of ultimate excitement and terror.

Intranuclear, I would love it if you would explain what protein folding is.

avid
26th June 2019, 22:40
Dutchsinse just sent a link to Tatoot’s Google whistleblower epic fiasco.
https://tatoott1009.com/2019/06/25/insider-blows-whistle-exec-reveals-google-plan-to-prevent-trump-situation-in-2020-on-hidden-cam/?fbclid=IwAR1p5F8S9BS6vKQBSNELAYT69JmEdzUqeV_q0FJw aT-1XgUPVXSDrpabuhI

Some very interesting links here, and damning evidence of wrong-doings by Google.

ulli
26th June 2019, 23:16
https://scontent.fsyq1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/65185204_875499779472001_1853586135515660288_o.jpg ?_nc_cat=111&_nc_oc=AQlyt68-tuQQ0x4mXLEipDzPPJLG8Qiy5VcMQF1qKdj-yZfslxv-RhBGovKczJkNrJ8&_nc_ht=scontent.fsyq1-1.fna&oh=094a3b1e3c5258b5007ce74436509acb&oe=5DB857DF

T Smith
27th June 2019, 00:24
I never use Google, but the browser I do use simply employs all Google's algorithms and search engine technology and then removes all its trackers and logs. So it does provide a privacy layer, but at the end of the day it's still "Google".

Preforming a routine search circa 2019, I can't even find the same information that was available just five years ago. I recently revisited some old research and was stunned at the lack of information I was able to find that I had uncovered just a few years back. Sometimes I didn't even find the information at all (without typing in the exact title, etc.).

If one Googles "Vaccine Safety" or "Vaccine Injury" or "Peer Reviewed Studies and Adverse Effects of Vaccines", for example, the only thing that comes up is pro-vaccination propaganda illuminating how misinformed and dangerous to society anti-vaxxers are, or an expose of the so-called junk science that misguides the gullible, or articles or discourse from "experts" that clearly debunk all the dubious claims, not to mention a litany of unflattering psychological profiles that conflate those who question vaccine safety with quackery and place anti-vaxxers squarely in the same camp as those who embrace the flat earth. Huh? Wow. The information cartel is waging a very powerful and subtle indoctrination campaign against all those who innocently employ their platform.

In contrast, just five years ago the same search yielded a balanced set of scientific information and an honest evaluation of the controversy. This same process of gatekeeping the information is undoubtedly occurring across every front of knowledge that may contain inconveniences to our overlords. If we cannot curb this trend, humanity may just find itself venturing into a prolonged new dark age.

Regardless where one stands on vaccination, or on any subject being censored and shaped as such, this is a very, very scary development in the dissemination of information.

My estimation? Those who seek truth are losing the battle.

Intranuclear
27th June 2019, 04:27
Tucker Carlson on Fox News live from Japan had a segment tonight about this Google algorithm business that was spot on. Early on the Project Veritas video the whistle-blower makes it perfectly clear that Google has its own special double-think definition of "fairness" that skews reality in the direction of the famous dystopian novel 1984. So Intranuclear: please read that book first to understand how such a dystopia works and why the current situation at Google resembles that dystopia.

If you mean the book 1984, I read that in high school and have seen the movie and endless discussions on the topic. That book pales in comparison to what exists today.
When I read that as a teen I was terrified, and having been in the computer industry (still am) and in fact currently working with machine learning, I am terribly aware of the misuses of ML.

AI will get better all the time and if people don't keep up or blindly trust those "giving" them all kinds of cool new toys, then viruses, identity theft and eavesdropping will be the least of their worries.

It is terribly obvious that information is power and that cuts both ways. It is critical to understand the human motivation for automation and wish to control its destiny. AI was a natural consequence to understand the human brain, specifically how the neurons function. If you ask anyone actually working on AI, myself included, they will all tell you that currently available hardware is many many orders of magnitude inferior even to a single neuron. However, even in its current state, it is good enough to outperform most tasks that are repetitive or logic or information based, including lawyers, doctors, even many scientists.

One of the things I worked on was to use ML to reproduce physics. To get a better feel see: https://physicstoday.scitation.org/doi/full/10.1063/PT.3.4164

Because Google is a public company and has many thousands of extremely smart and passionate, enthusiastic young people working for them, usually their employees are the first to be disgusted by much of Google's actions, such as developing weapons for the Pentagon.

The thing to be most vigilant about is the people who usurp Google's ubiquity, such as the NSA and many many others, who have an undisclosed agendas.

Think about it, it does not take much to threaten someone or their family well positioned inside Google and make then do things that they otherwise would never dream of doing. No sane person at Google wants their company destroyed and their livelihoods gone.

If you want to be terrified, then it is critical to see the future of AI, the ability to simulate protein folding in better than "real time" (meaning faster than nature). It is the Holy Grail of ultimate excitement and terror.

Intranuclear, I would love it if you would explain what protein folding is.

OK peterpam, I don't want to get off topic here, so I'll try a quick go at an explanation. Proteins being long chains of molecules themselves assembled of building blocks of simpler molecules called amino acids are the building blocks of ALL life (at least on earth). Their 3D shape determines their function. So you can take the same protein chain and depending the environment it is in, it can miss-fold, which will for example end up causing disease like Alzheimer's. So even when you have two identical protein chains, the way they fold during assembly determines their function.

This video is the simplest I found that mostly explains the problem:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cAJQbSLlonI

Because computers are great at doing trillions of calculations, one can simulate how a protein will fold in a computer and bypass having a full blown lab and costly and error-prone experiments. However, even with super fast computers, it takes a very very long time to simulate protein folding.

This is where machine learning comes in. It turns out that one can train a computer using neural networks to predict how a protein will fold, thus bypassing doing the lengthy calculations (leaving a lot out here for brevity).

Bottom line, one can use ML then to create never before seen life forms, drugs, bio-weapons and so forth and "see" their function without ever having first spent years or decades doing biological experiments.

And the terror bit comes in when anyone can play god having access to these systems.

ulli
4th July 2019, 16:55
https://aim4truth.org/2019/07/02/former-lover-exposes-eric-schmidt/?fbclid=IwAR3rp-a_mQvlQ8JkMIgBsS3jsED_XEEGUOyEI834v0tbTu2eN-_2mOlT8jE

How the Chinese government controls Eric Schmidt. Wow, wow, wow, if true.
Former lover of Eric Schmidt gives interview. Transcript.

Carmody
4th July 2019, 17:35
I can't imagine how sidelined Avalon is now.. compared to it's inception in 2010.

eg, I just did a google search for a list of conspiracy forums.



Nothing, no forum and no list of forums, no list of any kind, no forum titles of any kind..no captured word salad bits had a name of a forum in it.... nothing even remotely related.

And that's how things go from a seeming (from memory) average of ~1500-1700 viewers at any given time...to 1000..and now...right now..500 viewers.

the quality of information, the discussions, the record..has only increased since then, not decreased, so the forum as a value is up, not down.

And more people are now searching.

Yet the traffic is strongly curtailed, reduced, etc.

Hervé
4th July 2019, 17:45
https://aim4truth.org/2019/07/02/former-lover-exposes-eric-schmidt/?fbclid=IwAR3rp-a_mQvlQ8JkMIgBsS3jsED_XEEGUOyEI834v0tbTu2eN-_2mOlT8jE

How the Chinese government controls Eric Schmidt. Wow, wow, wow, if true.
Former lover of Eric Schmidt gives interview. Transcript.
See this post (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?107641-Revealed-Zuckerberg-s-and-Facebook-s-DARPA-origins&p=1301223&viewfull=1#post1301223) (<---) similar story as with Marc Suckerberg (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?107641-Revealed-Zuckerberg-s-and-Facebook-s-DARPA-origins).

Delight
4th July 2019, 17:57
https://aim4truth.org/2019/07/02/former-lover-exposes-eric-schmidt/?fbclid=IwAR3rp-a_mQvlQ8JkMIgBsS3jsED_XEEGUOyEI834v0tbTu2eN-_2mOlT8jE

How the Chinese government controls Eric Schmidt. Wow, wow, wow, if true.
Former lover of Eric Schmidt gives interview. Transcript.

I wondered if this would be posted. It sounds UNBELIEVABLY sci fi/horror/ but scarily plausible. Who else do they control?

T Smith
4th July 2019, 20:21
https://aim4truth.org/2019/07/02/former-lover-exposes-eric-schmidt/?fbclid=IwAR3rp-a_mQvlQ8JkMIgBsS3jsED_XEEGUOyEI834v0tbTu2eN-_2mOlT8jE

How the Chinese government controls Eric Schmidt. Wow, wow, wow, if true.
Former lover of Eric Schmidt gives interview. Transcript.

This is truly disturbing. Unfortunately, I don't know what can be done to stop this. In America, constitutional rights (which in theory should serve to check this type of encroachment) were once paramount regardless of one’s political leanings. Now, not so much. The Bill of Rights, stalwart principals that actually united people under one banner of individual sovereignty, are now fully under siege. This is a silent war being waged against the people (and by the people) and our constitution to protect against it is eroding in tandum as sure as a block of ice under fire. And here's the tragedy: this is all happening at lightening speed without the people even realizing it..

None are so hopelessly enslaved as those who falsely believe they are free... .

How can this be stopped? If there is even an inkling of truth to this interview, it demonstrates no better an example of the scientific manipulation (http://www.whale.to/b/russell_h.html) of our very reality, where any serious criticism of the agenda of powers that be are psychologically impossible.

While Freedom of Speech has been under attack for a very long time, just this week a U.S. congresswoman openly called for prosecution of those who criticize the U.S. government (https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/rep-frederica-wilson-demands-prosecution-for-those-who-mock-congress-online), proxies and lap dogs for Big Tech, Big Pharma, etc. Really? I understand this is commonplace in other countries all over the world, but here in America, this is a direct and blatant assault on the very 1st Amendment of the U.S. Constitution and is also no better example that we have officially crossed the Rubicon. There are endless such examples and countless warnings in literature (https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-07-03/you-want-picture-future-imagine-boot-stamping-your-face) we have apparently ignored.

Google, AI, 5G, forced vaccinations, GMOs, water fluoridation, 70% of the masses numbed down on prescription drugs, MSM and US government in full servitude to Military Industrial Complex/Big Pharma/Big Tech and their agendas, ever draconian injunctions—the list of the direct attack on the people could go on and on and on--and now the successful balkanization campaign whereby Western Civilization entire is under threat of complete collapse, into a state of Ultimate Revolution (http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article24712.htm) and the Boot Stamping on a Human Face Forever (https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/139439-there-will-be-no-curiosity-no-enjoyment-of-the-process).

In my estimation this psyop is so potent there may be no remedy. None of us are immune. Not even those of us who understand a psyop is afoot and would therefore choose to opt out in Ghandi-like way. Why? Because each side of the divide understands something is gravely wrong and is in a subliminal survival mode. This is a civil war, a cold war of sorts underlying our awareness. With some exceptions, the mass majority of us are desperately digging in our heals to contribute to peace and our survival per our unique worldviews, which have been conditioned, groomed, and programmed accordingly. Opting out is not an option. We all need to do something. Yet when we embrace a dialog to ameliorate it, even with the most noble and honorable of intentions, the collective energy only widens the divide.

This is a well-orchastrated psyop and is the underlying psychology of warfare itself.

I started a discussion here (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?107185-Political-Polarization-Unmitigated-Rage-and-the-Unbridgeable-Divide&highlight=Polarization) on Avalon to address this very thing, and the very dynamic we explored ripped through this forum (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?107445-A-very-important-announcement) with considerable damage not but a week later.

How can this psyop possibly affect and infect us here? Highly aware and informed individuals with a long standing history of high-level discussion and respect for dissenting and opposing opinions were not immune and had no defense against it. The result was a civil war between certain members, which spread to the higher echelons of moderators who administer the peace on the forum.

As I mentioned here (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?107185-Political-Polarization-Unmitigated-Rage-and-the-Unbridgeable-Divide&highlight=Polarization), this is happening all over the world between close family members, lifelong friends, standing marriages that have stood for decades, collegues and aquaintances, and now here on Avalon. If we can’t even manage this psyop in a closed community of high quality thinking contributors, what the hell can we do about it on a macro scale where we see nothing but unconscious lemmings carrying water for the cause of our collective enslavement?

I am at a loss. I would like to stay positive and do what I can, but I honestly don’t even know how to engage anymore.

Delight
4th July 2019, 21:16
How can this be stopped? If there is even an inkling of truth to this interview, it demonstrates no better an example of the scientific manipulation of our very reality, where any serious criticism of the agenda of powers that be are psychologically impossible.
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I am at a loss. I would like to stay positive and do what I can, but I honestly don’t even know how to engage anymore.

It was suggested that we "refuse" the technology. I also have heard that we should refuse to accept vaccination. This begs the question of how to function in NYC in 2019 or any place we are interdependent socially.

This speeding train does mean we have to get off the tracks. How do we DO that? I suggest that maybe we really DO need to form an intentional community with infrastructure which could be self reliant

OR (and this will sound so woowoo), maybe we MUST start some practice of reality manifestation that on a very small scale (of our own body and field) creates a different frequency (much like David Icke invokes). Either way, just to accept the staus quo is dealdly IMO.

On another note, what kind of posion is this that only Schmidts "handlers" have an antidote to save him and family? That stretches my ability to accept.... one of the most politically and economically connected person cannot find an antidote?

Whatever, I do think that we are facing REAL and terrible danger. The walls are closing and it is happening on all fronts IMO. When our friends and family say our resistance is insane. When we belong to forums that have decided some of what we say is OK and other parts NOT OK. MOST of all when a very vocal few can shut others down, the trolls have won....

T Smith
5th July 2019, 02:59
How can this be stopped? If there is even an inkling of truth to this interview, it demonstrates no better an example of the scientific manipulation of our very reality, where any serious criticism of the agenda of powers that be are psychologically impossible.
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I am at a loss. I would like to stay positive and do what I can, but I honestly don’t even know how to engage anymore.

It was suggested that we "refuse" the technology. I also have heard that we should refuse to accept vaccination. This begs the question of how to function in NYC in 2019 or any place we are interdependent socially.

This speeding train does mean we have to get off the tracks. How do we DO that? I suggest that maybe we really DO need to form an intentional community with infrastructure which could be self reliant

OR (and this will sound so woowoo), maybe we MUST start some practice of reality manifestation that on a very small scale (of our own body and field) creates a different frequency (much like David Icke invokes). Either way, just to accept the staus quo is dealdly IMO.

On another note, what kind of posion is this that only Schmidts "handlers" have an antidote to save him and family? That stretches my ability to accept.... one of the most politically and economically connected person cannot find an antidote?

Whatever, I do think that we are facing REAL and terrible danger. The walls are closing and it is happening on all fronts IMO. When our friends and family say our resistance is insane. When we belong to forums that have decided some of what we say is OK and other parts NOT OK. MOST of all when a very vocal few can shut others down, the trolls have won....

Thank you Maggie, very good advice... if/when the time comes, I will never take a forced vaccination, out of principal. That is my line in the sand. If I lose my driver's license, or can no longer participate in society, so be it. That's when I evoke the ghost of Henry David Thoreau.

Hopefully we will not be in a cashless society when this happens... no vaccine, no commerce.

It's just around the corner folks.

Rawhide68
5th July 2019, 16:47
From Wikip...

"Don't be evil" was a motto used within Google's corporate code of conduct.

Following Google's corporate restructuring under the conglomerate Alphabet Inc. in October 2015, Alphabet took "Do the right thing" as its motto, also forming the opening of its corporate code of conduct.[1][2][3][4][5] The original motto was retained in Google's code of conduct, now a subsidiary of Alphabet. In April 2018, the motto was removed from the code of conduct's preface and retained in its last sentence.

Bubu
6th July 2019, 01:28
I can't imagine how sidelined Avalon is now.. compared to it's inception in 2010.

eg, I just did a google search for a list of conspiracy forums.



Nothing, no forum and no list of forums, no list of any kind, no forum titles of any kind..no captured word salad bits had a name of a forum in it.... nothing even remotely related.

And that's how things go from a seeming (from memory) average of ~1500-1700 viewers at any given time...to 1000..and now...right now..500 viewers.

the quality of information, the discussions, the record..has only increased since then, not decreased, so the forum as a value is up, not down.

And more people are now searching.

Yet the traffic is strongly curtailed, reduced, etc.

I wonder how those figures are made is it made inside or outside Avalon? Cant it be somehow manipulated?

Bubu
6th July 2019, 01:34
How can this be stopped? If there is even an inkling of truth to this interview, it demonstrates no better an example of the scientific manipulation of our very reality, where any serious criticism of the agenda of powers that be are psychologically impossible.
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I am at a loss. I would like to stay positive and do what I can, but I honestly don’t even know how to engage anymore.

It was suggested that we "refuse" the technology. I also have heard that we should refuse to accept vaccination. This begs the question of how to function in NYC in 2019 or any place we are interdependent socially.

This speeding train does mean we have to get off the tracks. How do we DO that? I suggest that maybe we really DO need to form an intentional community with infrastructure which could be self reliant

OR (and this will sound so woowoo), maybe we MUST start some practice of reality manifestation that on a very small scale (of our own body and field) creates a different frequency (much like David Icke invokes). Either way, just to accept the staus quo is dealdly IMO.

On another note, what kind of posion is this that only Schmidts "handlers" have an antidote to save him and family? That stretches my ability to accept.... one of the most politically and economically connected person cannot find an antidote?

Whatever, I do think that we are facing REAL and terrible danger. The walls are closing and it is happening on all fronts IMO. When our friends and family say our resistance is insane. When we belong to forums that have decided some of what we say is OK and other parts NOT OK. MOST of all when a very vocal few can shut others down, the trolls have won....

That's what you see when you focus on news, whistle blowers and knowledge gurus. But if you look at what is happening worldwide specifically the resistance of Russia and company to the PTB. You'll see a better world ahead.

On FB there are other people posting against big pharma and increasing number of those liking my post on anti establishment. That never happen before

T Smith
6th July 2019, 17:20
On FB there are other people posting against big pharma and increasing number of those liking my post on anti establishment. That never happen before

Yes, but that's in the Philippines. Here in the U.S., I believe we are seeing the exact opposite trend. I noticed the same thing you describe about five or six years ago. But it started to get out of control as average people who do not specifically set out to wander down rabbit holes were beginning to wake up in droves to Big Pharma and to the dangers of vaccines (among other things). Ever since, the censors and propagandists and algorithms to scrub such information have gone into overdrive to remedy the trend and silence dissent. Couple that, for example, with a false flag campaign of measles outbreak in New York circa 2019 (we have always had reported cases of measles in the hundreds every year but it appears especially important for the PTB to wage a fear mongering campaign about it now) and the resulting consequence is a successful enactment into law of forced vaccinations in New York State. This draconian measure was enacted practically under the cover of night and swiftly without any public assembly or debate, similar to the way the Federal Reserve Act of 1913 was enacted. . . The recent forced vaccination law is clearly unconstitutional and against U.S. law and even against International Law established in the Nuremberg trails after WWII. But the people appear to be distracted by the magician's hand and do not seem to care.

My point here is this: Liberty once lost, is lost forever.

I also believe these injunctions and encroachments on civil liberties would have never stood just five years ago when people were actually posting credible anti-vaccine information on Facebook, before Big Pharma and Big Tech began all its censoring and scrubbing and gaslighting and propagandizing of dissent.

I can't remember where I read this hypothesis but it seems to make sense. The PTB are especially focused on dismantling the machinations of liberty and freedom here in the U.S., because they view the U.S. as the greatest bastion of resistance against some kind of installation of a New World Order given our cultural traditions of individualism, liberty, and the system of government we have specifically founded on said traditions. (Actually, it's been like taking candy from a baby so far, but I digress).

In any case, the argument goes like this: Once the U.S. Constitution has been effectively dismantled all the other dominoes will fall with little or no resistance. At that point one may post any rant one likes against Big Pharma and the government on Facebook. Bitch and complain about it a little, as one might about the weather, but so what? What will that get you if you are still forced to take a vaccine to participate in society, perhaps to pharmacologically instill a little needed docility in you if you are especially non-compliant and troublesome to your overlords? What real means of resistance do the people in the Philippines have against this?

The U.S. Constitution, in contrast, is the last standing institution of resistance to stop the ushering in of the New World Order. Or so the argument goes. Once that has been effectively dismantled, think of the order of world governance as being some manifestation of neo-feudalism where the ruling class is an oligarchy of Big Tech and Big Pharma and all the various machinations of power currently weaving their webs; the rest of us are but a class of serfs in our digital prisons, perhaps somewhat comfortably with all the trappings of modernity, if we're the lucky ones, but nonetheless enslaved to receiving our cocktail of medications and health care insurance. The industrious and talented, who have a penchant for production, will be awarded accordingly to achieve the various other necessities of living, e.g., clothing, food, shelter--but we will all be tired and sick and culled in a timely way per the various pharmacological regiments our government forces upon us.

Delight
6th July 2019, 23:26
The threat of an epidemic is a cultural meme that immediately shuts off people's inner critique of the proposed solution. We are being driven into a corner by our fear of contaigen and a lack of knowledge. Tapping into our own fear is the upside down nature of the Big Lie.

The Big Lie stops being very effective when people can actually compare notes and when info becomes available that makes a story ridiculous. It is a bit akin to when we learned of Building 7 on 9/11. For many this was a crack in which evidence of "a planned event on a massive scale" could not be ignored and the facade began crumbling. If we never heard of Building 7? IMO that is the aim... we are to never hear what we are not meant to hear. We are not to compare notes through social media or have a way to find the hidden facts.

IMO vaccination is a perfect example of tapping into fear and a proposed solution that is not safe and beneficial for the country. The same fear mongering works on other issues too like immigration or wars on drugs and terror. IMO it is all about instilling terror. People say yes for fear ONLY. Not because they love the plans or would choose them over any other.

People may well be agreeable to vacccination for fear of measles if they believe it could pose a serious threat. What happens when the solution for a proposed illness is worse than the infection?

When large numbers of parents began sharing information and it was discovered that SO MANY had the same story and the same doubts about what happened to their children COINCIDENT to vaccination, they began digging deeper. Many of the current vaccination dissent is spear headed by people who were formerly pro vaccination but saw terrible consequences that are supported by available science and the VACCINE INSERTS themselves. Many vaccine refusers have a child or family member of THEIR own who were injured and they are smart enough to know this fear of the vaccination is warranted.

So the LOGICAL choice is the informed dissent. I know what it can do. I say no. But because many have yet to experience the consequences or do not think the vaccines are responsible for the myriad chronic issues kids (and adults face) they think the refusal is absurd.

IF vaccines were only a weakened strain of a deadly virus in saline and would then allow the body to mount resistance to this deadly infection and be welll.... WONDERFUL all around.

The truth IS the technology is NOT that (just a weak little virus in saline) and the infection is NOT that DEADLY NOW.

When the person's immune response is weak or over taxed and accompanying environmental habitat of the body is not adequate, there is morbidity (seRious consequences) AND MORTALITY. The vaccines are full of toxic substances (in the vaccine inserts) which are administered in an abnormal manner (through the muscle) and this is not innocent glorious and health promoting.

The indoctrination has been in full swing to make people stupid when it comes to their own health and what they willingly will accept is "normal". It is pitiful IMO because everywhere, the sick are in view on the streets of the US and people want to quarantine everyone except the real culprits. It is pathetic IMO that people are lined up so politely to receive their own suicide method. I am sane enough to see that even if it seems unfair, the way things rolled out were agreed upon by the "majority" in the US and the choices people make have consequences.

Now people are going to find that even when they know better, they have no choice. So when the populace does not as one rise to the occasion to protect each other, then the ball starts rolling and rolls over the people like bolling pins. We may have been set up to be knocked down... and I think it may be too late because people have not run out of their houses screaming... nope not at all.

happyuk
7th July 2019, 11:00
Google's obvious weaknesses are there for all to see: the search engine itself lacks discernment and intelligence, artificial or otherwise.

The once awesome Google is now a big fat arrogant lump just ripe for being taken taken apart by a hungry competitors designed by people with at least a semblance of ethics.

Ditto Facebook. The website Wired did a piece about Zuckerberg's’s darker side (https://www.wired.com/story/inside-facebook-mark-zuckerberg-2-years-of-hell/) and the billionaire didn’t come out of it too well. The dictatorial tendencies one would sort of expect, but the censorious nature of Facebook did surprise me a little. Wired reported how ex employees confirmed "we routinely suppressed conservative news", using ‘a bunch of biased curators’ to upweight liberal stories and block anything pro-Trump.

Delight
14th July 2019, 22:11
Good discussion here with Jeffrey Jaxon concerning Google as a pharmaceutical company, human social programmer and primary behavior modification tool masquerading as a search engine. The single point of truth now offered which is upside down and inside out and backwards of common sense is too much for the unaware person to handle IMO. The Machine is now moving so fast that people cannot handle the cognitive dissonance. They call it shock and awe and a blitzkrieg of social engineering for the sake of the Global Corporatocracy. It was all planned way before the vehicle was available on the internet platform. Seem outrageous?

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In the hierarchy of needs, health is at the top because when one is ill, all other needs take a secondary place IMO. That is why people will spend whatever funds, time and energy AVAILBLE (to the point of complete exhaustion) for health related issues and why fear of illness drives behavior.

This video from 2012 may not seem related but watch it and think about the forces that are at work and how this historic moment is like another convergence point of many forces all aiming at the same goal....

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DID GOOGLE’S MANIPULATION SWAY VACCINE LEGISLATION?
7/2/2019
By Jefferey Jaxen (https://www.jeffereyjaxen.com/uploads/2/5/7/6/25760825/screen-shot-2019-06-26-at-11-46-33-am_orig.png)

Thanks to a recent Project Veritas investigation, it’s now public knowledge that Google manipulates its search engine suggestions to create its version of reality. Google’s internal teams have been busy collecting and classifying data and search trends then using the information to program highly biased algorithms into their search engine’s autocomplete function. The result has been the filtering and unfair ranking of certain media and news narratives, political suppression and what theyconsider beneficial health information. Once Google began introducing the concept of Machine Learning Fairness (MLF), as its know within the company, certain online conversations, searches, and ideas have been quietly choked out.

According to research firm NetMarketShare, Google has more than 75% of the search engine market share for desktop browsers and over 80% for mobile devices which effectively gives it monopoly control. Therefore, Google’s practices drive much of the Internet experience for most consumers by determining what they view – or rather, what they are allowed to view.

Google has throttled traffic to natural health and health freedom advocating sectors of the internet with popular sites like Mercola.com reportedly losing 99% of its organic traffic. In addition, several vaccine-related bills have gone before voting committees since 2019 began. While over 100 bills across the majority of American states were being voted on, citizens raced against the clock to educate their representatives, themselves and their communities. Many people turned to Google’s 75-80% search engine supremacy as their place to start their personal research and fact-finding.

In searching for terms, Google provides autocomplete options via a dropdown menu that purportedly corresponds to popular internet search terms. However, recently leaked documents, a whistleblower, employee admissions and user experiences have uncovered a more nefarious agenda being forced by Google.

A leaked internal Google email describes its goal to: “Establish a “single point of truth” for definition of “news” across Google products.”

Another leaked document describes how Google’s product, known as MLF, operates by explaining:

“In some cases it may be appropriate to take no actions if the system accurately reflects current reality, while in other cases it may be desirable to consider how we might help society reach a more and equitable state via product intervention or broader corporate social responsibility...”

Brought to light recently by a GreenMedInfo investigation, searching the words “Vaccines Cause” shows Google manipulating the autocomplete results.

https://www.jeffereyjaxen.com/uploads/2/5/7/6/25760825/screen-shot-2019-06-26-at-11-46-33-am_orig.png

A Google product called Google Trends bypasses the biased autocomplete search engine and shows the actual volume and popularity of the things people are searching for. Comparing “Vaccines Cause Adults” with “Vaccines Cause Autism” shows that “Vaccines Cause Autism” (red line) is far more searched than “Vaccines Cause Adults.” Yet Google’s biased MLF search engine has disappeared the term and very idea that “Vaccines Cause Autism.” Despite the ‘settled science’ talking points/narrative, the science has not been done to support the statement that “vaccines do not cause autism.”cont. here (https://www.jeffereyjaxen.com/blog/did-googles-manipulation-sway-vaccine-legislation)

MorningFox
17th July 2019, 07:04
https://aim4truth.org/2019/07/02/former-lover-exposes-eric-schmidt/?fbclid=IwAR3rp-a_mQvlQ8JkMIgBsS3jsED_XEEGUOyEI834v0tbTu2eN-_2mOlT8jE

How the Chinese government controls Eric Schmidt. Wow, wow, wow, if true.
Former lover of Eric Schmidt gives interview. Transcript.

This is all very interesting and certainly explains a few things, but it also leaves a lot of questions. The first and largest one being that if China were planning to sterilise the US with 5G, then why is 5G being rolled out in China in the same manner?

Also if true why is Google trying to suppress Huawei, the opposite actions of what this theory suggests should be happening if Schmidt, ie Google, is compromised by the Chinese...

Certainly a theory that leaves more questions than answers.

Jad
17th July 2019, 08:15
https://aim4truth.org/2019/07/02/former-lover-exposes-eric-schmidt/?fbclid=IwAR3rp-a_mQvlQ8JkMIgBsS3jsED_XEEGUOyEI834v0tbTu2eN-_2mOlT8jE

How the Chinese government controls Eric Schmidt. Wow, wow, wow, if true.
Former lover of Eric Schmidt gives interview. Transcript.

This is all very interesting and certainly explains a few things, but it also leaves a lot of questions. The first and largest one being that if China were planning to sterilise the US with 5G, then why is 5G being rolled out in China in the same manner?

Also if true why is Google trying to suppress Huawei, the opposite actions of what this theory suggests should be happening if Schmidt, ie Google, is compromised by the Chinese...

Certainly a theory that leaves more questions than answers.

I think the short answer is that there are some players who play the game without adhering to the “rules” such as flags, borders, and laws. This has been going for thousands of years which gives credence to the thesis that some players had secret scientific knowledge ranging from human psychology to alternative tech and they were able to socially engineer our current state of affairs on earth.

MorningFox
17th July 2019, 11:19
https://aim4truth.org/2019/07/02/former-lover-exposes-eric-schmidt/?fbclid=IwAR3rp-a_mQvlQ8JkMIgBsS3jsED_XEEGUOyEI834v0tbTu2eN-_2mOlT8jE

How the Chinese government controls Eric Schmidt. Wow, wow, wow, if true.
Former lover of Eric Schmidt gives interview. Transcript.

This is all very interesting and certainly explains a few things, but it also leaves a lot of questions. The first and largest one being that if China were planning to sterilise the US with 5G, then why is 5G being rolled out in China in the same manner?

Also if true why is Google trying to suppress Huawei, the opposite actions of what this theory suggests should be happening if Schmidt, ie Google, is compromised by the Chinese...

Certainly a theory that leaves more questions than answers.

I think the short answer is that there are some players who play the game without adhering to the “rules” such as flags, borders, and laws. This has been going for thousands of years which gives credence to the thesis that some players had secret scientific knowledge ranging from human psychology to alternative tech and they were able to socially engineer our current state of affairs on earth.

Thanks for the response, and it's something I'm keenly aware of, but that doesn't answer either of my questions in any way, shape or form... ?

TargeT
24th July 2019, 11:14
I expect anti trust law suits against Goo g13 will soon be a topic of discussion.

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TigaHawk
25th July 2019, 05:01
just going to throw this out there

If you're wanting a search engine that wont track you and will do it's bests to find results that match your keywords: https://duckduckgo.com/

Bill Ryan
25th July 2019, 21:39
I expect anti trust law suits against Goo g13 will soon be a topic of discussion.

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https://newsbusters.org/blogs/techwatch/corinne-weaver/2019/07/25/google-punishes-whistleblowing-engineer-administrative
(published about 7 hrs ago)
Google Punishes Whistleblowing Engineer with Administrative Leave

The hive known as Google is quick to punish those who undermine its authority.

Hours after Google engineer Greg Coppola appeared with James O’Keefe in a Project Veritas video, he was put on administrative leave by his company. In the video, Coppola said that he believed that Google News and Google’s search engine algorithms were biased. He also claimed that CEO Sundar Pichai’s testimony to Congress in December 2018 was not “true.”

Google has chastised those employees who have gone against its agenda. In 2017, Google fired engineer James Damore after he wrote a memo about the company’s “ideological echo chamber.” In 2019, Republican engineer Mike Wacker was fired after he complained about the hostile attitude in the corporate culture toward conservatives.

If Coppola is let go, he will be the third public victim of Google’s inherent bias toward conservative engineers. Coppola openly admitted in his interview with O’Keefe that he “liked Trump and liked his policies.” He stated that the search engine relies too much on biased news outlets to feed its users negative news on Trump.

According to Coppola's GoFundMe (https://www.gofundme.com/f/ujvbwc-x?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=p_cp+share-sheet), he expects that Google will "probably fire him." He plans on publishing more on tech in the upcoming months.

O’Keefe tweeted that Coppola “went public because he believes people need to hear about bias from someone who works there.” O’Keefe noted that in his interview, Coppola said “positive things about Google.”

Google is under fire from all sides, however. The company is the subject of one of the Department of Justice’s antitrust investigation.