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enfoldedblue
28th October 2019, 07:40
I have a friend who is starting to come round to the layers of deception in the mainstream. I wanted to sugest some good starting point videos that might encourage him to explore further. But everything i have looked at quickly seems to have a Christian or alt right slant. I know the minute he he sees that he will shut down and not look any further.

So I thought I'd ask here if anyone could recommend some good starting point vids.

Tintin
28th October 2019, 08:23
Hello enfoldedblue :)

Well, please just steer them to the Avalon Library, link here:

http://avalonlibrary.net/

Initially they may want to scroll down past the 'yellow' folders to find a host of the very best documentaries that are out there, for starters.

Depending on topics of interest - and the library is by no means anywhere near complete yet although I've added a fair amount to it in the last month - there is other film and/or audio in some of those files.

That's the best starting point I can think of.

:rockon:

enfoldedblue
28th October 2019, 08:48
That is a great start. Thanks!

Cara
28th October 2019, 09:24
A possible place to start for someone who is happy to read is John Perkins “Confessions of an Economic Hitman”. There are videos of him on YouTube but I have not watched them so I have no idea what their slant is.

The book itself is a fairly straight telling of the economic and political collusion, corruption and bullying of nations to give up their resources and tie them to the debt model.

Tintin
28th October 2019, 11:19
That is a great start. Thanks!

My pleasure :)

I'll be doing a library update soon and will produce a list of what's there. Perhaps I'll aim to do this every month, with updates, time permitting.

:highfive:

Peter UK
28th October 2019, 11:37
HyperNormalisation is a 2016 BBC documentary by British filmmaker Adam Curtis.

I thought it was quite impressive when I fist watched it but I haven't watched it since. I don't know whether it would fit with the criteria you're looking for.

You could view it on youtube.

Here is a description.

Contains very strong language and disturbing scenes.

We live in a time of great uncertainty and confusion. Events keep happening that seem inexplicable and out of control. Donald Trump, Brexit, the War in Syria, the endless migrant crisis, random bomb attacks. And those who are supposed to be in power are paralysed - they have no idea what to do.

This film is the epic story of how we got to this strange place. It explains not only why these chaotic events are happening - but also why we, and our politicians, cannot understand them.

It shows that what has happened is that all of us in the West - not just the politicians and the journalists and the experts, but we ourselves - have retreated into a simplified, and often completely fake version of the world. But because it is all around us we accept it as normal.

But there is another world outside. Forces that politicians tried to forget and bury forty years ago - that then festered and mutated - but which are now turning on us with a vengeful fury. Piercing though the wall of our fake world

Joe
28th October 2019, 14:31
I have a friend who is starting to come round to the layers of deception in the mainstream. I wanted to sugest some good starting point videos that might encourage him to explore further. But everything i have looked at quickly seems to have a Christian or alt right slant. I know the minute he he sees that he will shut down and not look any further.

So I thought I'd ask here if anyone could recommend some good starting point vids.
...

I’m going to go slightly off topic here to state my opinion.

There is nothing you can recommend to your friend that will change his mind, or even to nudge it. He is either open to accepting information or not. If he is not open, the best you can do is engage him with questions. What are you reading?

If you are engaged in conversation about a specific topic, try a challenging question leading in the direction you already know the answers to but he does not.

Most people if they are unprepared to transform, the information you provide will cause them to close more, or advance mental health issues or depression, or more. The body will simply shut down.

I’ve seen this happen multiple times, especially with my older friends, their bodies shut down with disease and death... providing information seems to just accelerate the process.

East Sun
28th October 2019, 14:52
I have a friend who is starting to come round to the layers of deception in the mainstream. I wanted to sugest some good starting point videos that might encourage him to explore further. But everything i have looked at quickly seems to have a Christian or alt right slant. I know the minute he he sees that he will shut down and not look any further.

So I thought I'd ask here if anyone could recommend some good starting point vids.

Hi enfoldedblue,
You asked for videos but I would like to recommend David Icke's books. His latest book "The Trigger" is based mainly on 9/11 but is much more. If your friend is a reader he could skip on to the parts he would be interested in.

If you are familiar with David Icke you could let him know what to expect.

ES

onevoice
28th October 2019, 16:04
I have a friend who is starting to come round to the layers of deception in the mainstream. I wanted to sugest some good starting point videos that might encourage him to explore further. But everything i have looked at quickly seems to have a Christian or alt right slant. I know the minute he he sees that he will shut down and not look any further.

So I thought I'd ask here if anyone could recommend some good starting point vids.

Hi enfoldededblue,
You asked for videos but I would like to recommend David Icke's books. His latest book "The Trigger" is based mainly on 9/11 but is much more. If your friend is a reader he could skip on to the parts he would be interested in.

If you are familiar with David Icke you could let him know what to expect.

ES
The book "The Trigger" is available at:
https://b-ok.cc/book/5271924/3cd789

toppy
28th October 2019, 17:35
Dear TinTin,
I love your title: "Moderator and Librarian" !

Tintin
28th October 2019, 19:31
Dear TinTin,
I love your title: "Moderator and Librarian" !

Thank you toppy :sun:

That's two hats instead of one :) It's a kind of balancing act.

enfoldedblue
28th October 2019, 21:34
I have a friend who is starting to come round to the layers of deception in the mainstream. I wanted to sugest some good starting point videos that might encourage him to explore further. But everything i have looked at quickly seems to have a Christian or alt right slant. I know the minute he he sees that he will shut down and not look any further.

So I thought I'd ask here if anyone could recommend some good starting point vids.
...

I’m going to go slightly off topic here to state my opinion.

There is nothing you can recommend to your friend that will change his mind, or even to nudge it. He is either open to accepting information or not. If he is not open, the best you can do is engage him with questions. What are you reading?

If you are engaged in conversation about a specific topic, try a challenging question leading in the direction you already know the answers to but he does not.

Most people if they are unprepared to transform, the information you provide will cause them to close more, or advance mental health issues or depression, or more. The body will simply shut down.

I’ve seen this happen multiple times, especially with my older friends, their bodies shut down with disease and death... providing information seems to just accelerate the process.

Hi Joe, you are absolutely right....this is something I learned back in the 90s during my initial awakening when I wanted to run through the streets and tell everyone there was so much more going on than what met the eye....lol. However, as I mentioned, this is someone is opening to the idea that things that he dismissed in the past might actually be true. He is LOOKING to find out more. I don't believe he would have asked if he was not ready.

enfoldedblue
28th October 2019, 21:41
Thanks for all the ideas everyone. I will look into them. Unfortunately things like David Icke are exactly what would put him off. He is someone who would only consider journalists or whistle blowers with searchable credentials.

Thanks again

Kryztian
28th October 2019, 21:57
A few years ago I created a Youtube playlist I called "Rethinking How the World Really Works", although it's more about questions the usual explanations. I can be found at
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLdmg27soDUAXuIblMzysfJu-c6dnDKoWX

A few of the videos have been removed from Youtube since I made the playlist.

A few favorites:

Confessions of an Economic Hitman - John Perkins | Short Documentary
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The Power Of Nightmares - 3 Part Adam Curtis Documentary
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The Day Israel Attacked America - about the attack of the U.S.S. Liberty
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Stealing a Nation - How the UK/US Stole the Diego Garcia Island
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Bill Ryan
28th October 2019, 22:12
Foster Gamble's Thrive (2012) was specifically intended for people new to this kind of thinking and awareness. It can be criticized, for sure, but it's really extremely good as a starter.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lEV5AFFcZ-s

enfoldedblue
29th October 2019, 00:02
Thanks guys!

Krystian, These look good... I will check out your links.

Bill, Thanks for reminding me about this one...it is a good starting point! Only problem is that this friend is always looking for the rich and powerful to solve our problems. He believes that Bill Gates and Oprah going to change the world. I will recommend this movie to him even though it reinforces the idea that the elite will save us.

Caliban
29th October 2019, 00:42
Here's a bitchute channel that, I think, grabbed a lot of Hoax videos off Youtube and reposted them here. You just click on the channel's Video button and scroll down.

There's a ton of stuff on Brussels, Paris, London, Orlando, Boston... This might be a "next level" type of waking up. But you gotta get there eventually.


https://153news.net/view_channel.php?user=hoaxland


Edit: Sorry Enfoldedblue, you did say "Introductory," which I missed. I guess you can still bookmark this for later in your friend's journey :)

AutumnW
29th October 2019, 04:54
The movie JFK by Oliver Stone and as Cara suggested, the book, Confessions of an Economic Hitman

Mike Gorman
29th October 2019, 05:02
HyperNormalisation is a 2016 BBC documentary by British filmmaker Adam Curtis.

I thought it was quite impressive when I fist watched it but I haven't watched it since. I don't know whether it would fit with the criteria you're looking for.

You could view it on youtube.

Here is a description.

Contains very strong language and disturbing scenes.

We live in a time of great uncertainty and confusion. Events keep happening that seem inexplicable and out of control. Donald Trump, Brexit, the War in Syria, the endless migrant crisis, random bomb attacks. And those who are supposed to be in power are paralysed - they have no idea what to do.

This film is the epic story of how we got to this strange place. It explains not only why these chaotic events are happening - but also why we, and our politicians, cannot understand them.

It shows that what has happened is that all of us in the West - not just the politicians and the journalists and the experts, but we ourselves - have retreated into a simplified, and often completely fake version of the world. But because it is all around us we accept it as normal.

But there is another world outside. Forces that politicians tried to forget and bury forty years ago - that then festered and mutated - but which are now turning on us with a vengeful fury. Piercing though the wall of our fake world

I think this topic intersects with my own research, and analysis of the effect of the WWW on our culture, which we blithely take for granted everyday, communication is absolutely central to the human universe, it is the very essence of what makes us 'Human'
, the massive expansion and distribution of vast communication opportunities, and the consequent disruption of ALL 'Middleman' representation has worked to completely alter western world perspectives - this is what accounts for Brexit/Trump and the rise of populism, it is directly through the sharing of the political resistance to the Globalism being imposed on our societies by the powerful legacy groups (Bilderberg represent the memberships). So what this documentary considers the 'shrinkage' of our world is actually the opposite, a colossal expansion of political awareness. Sorry if that sounds Contrarian, but I am adamant about this: The WWW is the equivalent of the printing press in terms of its impact on our culture, and this is the agency of change we see manifesting today, it is incremental and massively powerful.

HaveBlue
29th October 2019, 11:54
Dr John Coleman: The Committee of 300, A Conspirators Guide is not only a great introduction but also a thorough expose for the serious scholar.
There are many, many that have not been refuted or debunked. Actually the silence is deafening! Even Bill Clinton basically endorsed Carol Quigleys Tragedy and Hope. It is 1200 pages but a must read for any conspiracy theorist worth his or her salt!

Sidenote: speaking of Salt, Julian Salt proved worthy of his name when he came out and said he had been fooled by Mark Richards after many years of writing back and forth to him and no longer believes anything he says. Julian had earlier been interviewed by Kerry C backing up M.Richards.

I think it was Mark Twain that said 'It is easier to fool someone than it is to convince them that they have been fooled'. So true! And that is why I give credit to Julian Salt for being honest and humble enough to make the correction.

I also suspect that much is credited to Mark Twain that he knew nothing about!

Tintin
29th October 2019, 13:18
Thanks guys!

Krystian, These look good... I will check out your links.

Bill, Thanks for reminding me about this one...it is a good starting point! Only problem is that this friend is always looking for the rich and powerful to solve our problems. He believes that Bill Gates and Oprah going to change the world. I will recommend this movie to him even though it reinforces the idea that the elite will save us.

Hi again :)

Okay, I've given this a little more thought (all previous suggestions have been helpful too, of course):

The Corporation is I think probably the best starting point; you'd stated video for a good reason perhaps :).

You can point them to the Avalon Library and these links:

The Corporation (full version): http://avalonlibrary.net/The_Corporation.mp4

HD versions in 4 parts:

Part 1: http://avalonlibrary.net/The_Corporation_HD_Part_1.mp4
Part 2: http://avalonlibrary.net/The_Corporation_HD_Part_2.mp4
Part 3: http://avalonlibrary.net/The_Corporation_HD_Part_3.mp4
Part 4: http://avalonlibrary.net/The_Corporation_HD_Part_4.mp4

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Star Mariner
29th October 2019, 13:49
What's his opinion of 9/11?

If he thinks the official story is true, then here would be a good place to start in chiselling through those walls of mainstream deceit and lies. I've seen 9/11 work as a catalyst before, but it's a hard path. As Mark Twain said, "It's easier to fool people than to convince them that they have been fooled."

For a video that encapsulates it all, this is one of the best. It's long though, but necessarily so. It's very thorough, and never boring. And it doesn't ram outlandish conspiracy theories down your throat, it merely shows/tells/underlines what is wrong with the official story, all its discrepancies, inconsistencies, and downright lies. It tasks you to join the dots yourself. Once he starts to join those dots and ask those questions..mission accomplished.

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Bluegreen
29th October 2019, 17:32
This is a boring and poorly made video. It is about 45 minutes of a man sitting in a chair reading one document after another. Pretty boring. The sound is messed up at the beginning but it evens out. Production values not a high priority ...

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And then I found out about Splitting The Sky aka Dacajeweiah aka John Boncore Hill. And then ...

Franny
29th October 2019, 19:07
I almost hesitate to post this one, mostly due to the length. Also because there are so many things during the 3.5 hours that can spike cognitive dissonance.

If it helps, I sent it to a friend that was also questioning the way the world works and she had a positive response to it.

Everything is a Rich Man's trick : JFK to 9/11 part 1


It traces the history of the Dulleses who wrote the Treaty of Versailles; and the Bushes who played a hand in Hitler’s rise, JFK’s murder, and the WTC collapse. The film doesn’t shy away from the Mafia connection with the CIA, so obvious in the Kennedy plot, the Bay of Pigs, and Iran–Contra. We begin to see the US military, with its endless wars in Central America, Southeast Asia, and the Middle East, as an enforcement arm of the corporations.

We begin to appreciate the pervasive influence of the propaganda machine, and of the permanent war economy it serves. Wealth is siphoned upward so the rich can retain their status as having more than the rest — while the rest are always having to support the war machine. Thus the public are given false enemies time and again, as the only rationale they can buy for continuing the status quo. Meanwhile we are unconsciously consuming and being entertained, buying into the old Caesar’s trick of bread and circuses. And we are subject to increasing surveillance and censorship, again under the guise of protection from enemies… because ironically the population itself is the real enemy of the ruling elite.

Finish reading here:
https://medium.com/@nowickgray/review-of-jfk-to-9-11-everything-is-a-rich-man-s-trick-a200d3a22cd0


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Here is an interview with the director.

A Conversation with Francis Richard Conolly Director of JFK to 9/11 Everything Is A Rich Man's Trick

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Franny
29th October 2019, 23:38
Another one, just for a broad sweep of the 20th Century, would be The Century of the Self. This is the full version:

The Century of the Self (TV Docu-Series 2002)


The story of the relationship between Sigmund Freud and his American nephew, Edward Bernays. Bernays invented the public relations profession in the 1920s and was the first person to take Freud's ideas to manipulate the masses. He showed American corporations how they could make people want things they didn't need by systematically linking mass-produced goods to their unconscious desires.

Bernays was one of the main architects of the modern techniques of mass-consumer persuasion, using every trick in the book, from celebrity endorsement and outrageous PR stunts, to eroticising the motorcar.

His most notorious coup was breaking the taboo on women smoking by persuading them that cigarettes were a symbol of independence and freedom. But Bernays was convinced that this was more than just a way of selling consumer goods. It was a new political idea of how to control the masses. By satisfying the inner irrational desires that his uncle had identified, people could be made happy and thus docile.

It was the start of the all-consuming self which has come to dominate today's world.

Originally broadcast on 29th April 2002.

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