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daledo
21st January 2011, 04:07
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LONDON (Reuters) – Former Prime Minister Tony Blair will appear Friday before an inquiry into the Iraq War for a second public grilling to clarify earlier evidence detailing his reasons for joining the controversial invasion.

Blair, who sent 45,000 British troops to join the U.S.-led invasion in 2003, told the inquiry in his first appearance that Saddam Hussein was a threat to the world who had to be removed or disarmed.

He also said he had no regrets about the military action, a comment that angered some of the relatives of the 179 British soldiers killed in Iraq.

The inquiry, which began in November 2009 and is headed by former civil servant John Chilcot, was set up by Blair's successor Gordon Brown to learn lessons from the conflict and is not designed to assign guilt or blame to any individual.

Blair's six-hour appearance in January last year has been the highlight of the inquiry which has heard from a host of senior military and political figures from Britain and abroad. He is one of a small number of witnesses to have been recalled.

The decision to go to war was one of the most controversial episodes of Blair's 10-year premiership which ended in 2007, leading to massive protests and accusations that he had deliberately misled the public over the reasons for the invasion.

Blair denied such claims and rejected suggestions he had promised U.S. President George W. Bush he would support military action in 2002, months before attempts to secure explicit U.N. backing had foundered.

He also said the war was legal based on advice he had been given from the government's then top lawyer, Attorney General Peter Goldsmith.

However, since his appearance, other witnesses have offered evidence which appeared to conflict with some details he gave.

Former International Development Secretary Clare Short, a long-time critic of Blair, said he had lied to senior ministers and stifled discussion on the issue before the invasion.

She also said they had been kept in the dark about Goldsmith's doubts about the war's legality. Goldsmith told the inquiry he only concluded it would be lawful without a specific U.N. resolution a week before the war.

In a written statement to the inquiry issued this week, Goldsmith also said comments made by Blair to parliament and to BBC TV a month before the invasion were not compatible with the advice he had given the prime minister.

"As we begin to write our report, there are a few remaining areas where we need to clarify exactly what happened," Chilcot said Tuesday. However, he said Britain's top civil servant had forbidden the publication of notes Blair sent to Bush and records of their discussions.

Alistair Campbell, Blair's former communications chief and one of his closest advisers until resigning in late 2003, said people still felt raw about the war and would never forgive him.

"He made the decision, he led the country to remove Saddam and he has to live with that," he told Sky News.

Opponents of the war said they would demonstrate outside the inquiry's venue near parliament in central London.

"Evidence has now emerged at Chilcot showing Blair lied to public and parliament about the legality of an attack on Iraq," said Chris Nineham from the Stop the War Campaign.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20110121/wl_nm/us_britain_blair



http://news.yahoo.com/video/world-15749633/blair-faces-iraq-inquiry-again-23909817
Here is a short clip on it.

Icecold
21st January 2011, 04:29
I hope it leads to a trial and that the outcome of a trial convicts Blair of war crimes against humanity.

Fructedor
21st January 2011, 12:04
I agree - a truly disgusting specimen - and in no way representative of the people he swore to protect and serve. My heart goes out to the tens of thousands of people and families he helped to destroy. However, I'm not holding my breath waiting for any sort of 'official' justice - but the main thing is that now the information is available to all those who seek the truth - that's what will make a difference. Creatures like Blair present us all with a clear path to a better world by pointing unerringly in the opposite direction.

Best wishes

Fructedor

conk
21st January 2011, 16:07
The foxes questioning the fox about destruction of the chicken coop. Meanwhile, the chickens are cordoned off behind fences holding their little protest signs.

Fox to chick: STAY inside the designated protest area, away from the cameras.

The only way Blair will suffer consequences is if he's pizzed off another faction of evil doers.

Gone002
21st January 2011, 22:18
No, this is wrong. why should blair be punished for this. if your in the army you sign up to kill or be killed, thats your job i mean why join if your not ready for that. It was more than blair that started that war, why should he go down for it. Looking back is great with 20 20 vision and all the facts, did they have them at the time, will this help healing the wound. NO whats done is done. This is "joe public" and the media getting there pound of flesh, and its the wrong person.

joedjemal
21st January 2011, 22:33
Dunno about that Celt, I was there with about 2 million others saying no way before it happened. You could see him wriggle any way he could to get war.

Gone002
21st January 2011, 22:58
While millions more wanted the war. In anycase i stand by what i say.

Fructedor
22nd January 2011, 04:46
Hi folks

Most soldiers sign up because there's little else to do where they come from, no work, no money, no prospects, plus the thrill of getting to play with all that cool destructive technology - but let's assume that some of the soldiers who signed up to fight the 'enemy' were actually moved by noble motives - protection of their nation and way of life from what was seen by them to be a real threat. However it went, they were pressganged into what was and still is a violently imposed colonial invasion for the ultimate benefit of very few - the large international financial corporations and industries for whom human beings are worth less than spit on a ****house floor, and for whom governments are merely the low-level management. I'm enraged that all this true bravery and honourable human courage has been hijacked and wasted for such enterprises. All these various modern-day 'Goldsteins' are waved in front of us knowingly and used as an excuse to extend power at whatever the expense in other people's lives. None of the soldiers will ever benefit from the sacrifices they made - look at the way the crippled and diseased survivors are treated by the governments that sent them off as cannon fodder. Once home, they have to fight again to receive as little as possible, a quantity the government specialises in.

Not to mention the inhabitants of the countries which have now become battle-grounds where no-one is safe. A million Iraqis died as a result of the the softening-up process of the pre-invasion embargo, many thousands of them children who died for want of medicine. Some of these resistants may indeed adhere to dangerous philosophies, but many are simply attempting to defend their own countries against unjust invasion.

Blair could not have been ignorant of all this, and we know Bush wasn't - he had plans on his desk for the invasion of Iraq before 9/11. Tony Blair knowingly lied to the people he was sworn to represent - who massively came to the streets in millions to express their disgreement with what he was doing - and is now flashing his boyish moralistic charm in front of the 'commission' in another disgusting display of squirming away from the responsibility he knows is his. He will now no doubt be released to return to his lucrative new career as bought-and-paid-for 'international statesman advisor.'

He's a disgrace to his nation and as a man. His new-found Catholicism may afford him a little moral support though, in that it offers the secret of the confessional.

That's enough about him.

Goodnight all

Fructedor

daledo
22nd January 2011, 05:08
Tony Blair issues warning over Islamic extremism


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k9Thm6pLmhM

I don't know what really to say after hearing the speech except that the middle east does not want to be modernized into a pill popping society that is living in a fake reality where we kill each other for a few dollars. They prefer to be left alone and not taken over by the west and they are fighting for this. If the Russians or Chinese invaded America I am VERY sure that America's worker bees will stand up for themselves too. Pull out of every country we are invading and peace will happen.

ponda
22nd January 2011, 06:21
He says he regrets the death toll of the mid east wars then goes on to suggest that force will be used against Iran over their nuclear program.He doesn't need imaginary WMD's this time to invade just an energy program.

http://www.france24.com/en/20110122-blair-sounds-warning-iran