Pole Shift, Sooner than later?

[Mandala]

Bill, I am asking you to weigh in on this one for rumor control.
I need some of our good researchers with time on the hands, which I don't have at the moment, to check out some things.

I recently was sent a link concerning information on the internet regarding a possible pole shift in March.

It seems this is partially due to an alleged Alex Jones (so-called whistleblower from the White House) claiming the government was aware of a pole shift their scientists are predicting this March. They quickly went to a commercal. Fact or fiction? Don't know. Of course I can't find proof. Other people are discussing a youtube video.

I can't see youtube at work to evaluate the videos some people are discussing. I was hoping someone who can access them, might check them out.

On one youtube video that I'm blocked from deals with a lady who "claims" she has been experimented on by the government. She says she has received information regarding the Comet Elenin which caused Earth's axis to shift February of last year,and believes this year it will cause a much larger shift on March 15th.
This comet should not be coming back until the fall.

It is kind of interesting because I belive I read that there is a FEMA readiness exercise on May 15th in the middle of the country near the New Madrid Seismic Zone. Supposedly planning for supplies for 7 million people over a period of 10 days. Also, I read that FEMA had recently requisitioned MRE with a short shelf life of no more than 6 months.

Guys, it could all be BS.

Could someone give me a hand with this. I am at work with only 5 min to write this request. Thanks, Mandala

[MorningSong]

Is this it?

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[JDM]

I am also curious about this.
I seen something about this while lurking on some other sites.

[Koyaanisqatsi]

This is deeply concerning, but don't let it cause you to live in fear. All one could really do, even with all the answers, is uproot and move to high elevation and away from faultlines. I'm in a good spot for such an ugly event. Here in Arizona, the Hopi have an oral tradition that one day their people will wake up and see water.... Edgar Cayce's books seem to support this theory regarding Earth changes. Who knows? Would be cool to have "oceanfront property in Arizona" as the saying goes.

[MorningSong]

Here's some info on the Elenin Comet.... it'll be coming in close to earth until Sept-Oct.


C/2010 X1 – A Hyperbolic Comet

January 11th, 2011

It has been a month since the discovery of the first Russian comet, and tonight the Minor Planet Center has released a circular with a refined, official comet orbit. The eccentricity is greater than one, which means the comet has a hyperbolic orbit. The perihelion date is September 9, 2011 with a precision of +/- 1.7 days. The perihelion distance is 0.4762 (+/-0.008 a.u.).

Changes in the orbit did not favorably affect estimates of the maximum brightness of the comet; now it is estimated at mag. 6-8. So the comet will be accessible for observations by binoculars and spotting scopes, but it is possible that it will also be observable with the unaided eye by people located far from city lights in places where the atmosphere is also stable and transparent.

The maximum brightness of the comet will be ten days after perihelion, but at that moment the comet will not be observable from Earth – it will be at conjunction with the Sun. After the comet emerges from conjunction, by the beginning of October, the brightness of the comet will have already have slowly begun to fade. The come will come closest to the Earth, a distance of 0.27 a.u. (40.5 million km.), in the middle of October. By the end of the year, the brightness of C/2010 X1 may fall to mag. 14-16, in other words, the practical limit for visual observations in larger amateur telescopes. In moderate-sized telescopes equipped with color CCD cameras, the comet will be observable for another whole year after its closest approach to the Earth.

At the moment there are 67 comets known with hyperbolic orbits and a perihelion inside the orbit of the Earth. The most recent of them, C/2009 R1 (McNaught), was observed at our observatory in the middle of June 2010. In this list you will notice the beautiful comets C/2006 M4 (SWAN) and C/2006 P1 (McNaught), the first of which decorates the top of our site. At the moment, comet C/2010 X1 (Elenin) is in third place in this list according to the size of its eccentricity.

http://spaceobs.org/en/tag/comet-elenin/

More articles at the link.

[passiglight]

Bill, I am asking you to weigh in on this one for rumor control.
I need some of our good researchers with time on the hands, which I don't have at the moment, to check out some things.

I recently was sent a link concerning information on the internet regarding a possible pole shift in March.

It seems this is partially due to an alleged Alex Jones (so-called whistleblower from the White House) claiming the government was aware of a pole shift their scientists are predicting this March. They quickly went to a commercal. Fact or fiction? Don't know. Of course I can't find proof. Other people are discussing a youtube video.

I can't see youtube at work to evaluate the videos some people are discussing. I was hoping someone who can access them, might check them out.

On one youtube video that I'm blocked from deals with a lady who "claims" she has been experimented on by the government. She says she has received information regarding the Comet Elenin which caused Earth's axis to shift February of last year,and believes this year it will cause a much larger shift on March 15th.
This comet should not be coming back until the fall.

It is kind of interesting because I belive I read that there is a FEMA readiness exercise on May 15th in the middle of the country near the New Madrid Seismic Zone. Supposedly planning for supplies for 7 million people over a period of 10 days. Also, I read that FEMA had recently requisitioned MRE with a short shelf life of no more than 6 months.

Guys, it could all be BS.

Could someone give me a hand with this. I am at work with only 5 min to write this request. Thanks, Mandala

Hi folks,,

I had some dejavu earlier today,,,, "nothing is a coincidence,,

I had a cold call fone call earlier today,, from a guy in the states,, i let him deliver his pitch,,, and then half jokingly,, but slightly sardonic,, i said "whats the point the world is gonna end soon anyhow"...

He said "oh,, thats ironic"

He continued,, "On my way to work this morning i was exiting grand central in new york and in my path was a guy wearing a sandwhich board" saying: " the world ends, i think it said, 24th march", "ain't that bit wierd!"

I said "oh, there are no coincidences" .

but there's good examples of synchronicity.,, my reading this thread,, him telling me the story and him meeting the sandwhich board man

That's really got me thinking,,,,

and,,,,on a couple of other threads about the prevelance and possibility of earthquakes,,especially at yellow stone,, and the wandering magnetic pole,,,,,

There's this business with the dark patches on the sun,, could be foretelling large earthquakes, plus the axis shift being caused by the comet,,,which reminds me of the star of david,,, we're only few months out from xmas,,,,,,

And,, if they were 11 years out on the calender calculation for birth of christ, then it could well be 2000 years almost to when christ was born,, and that comet could be star of david,,,

If thats the case then,,hhhmmmm well maybe he's here,,,

Oh well just thinking,,

anyhow i take the dejavu for real.

cosmic love folks

[Muzz]

Hi Mandala I found this on ATS

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OaTlqafeJZE&feature=player_embedded#

[Mandala]

Thanks for the help, I will get to work this weekend. You have found good information. Know we need to check sources, reliability and motivation.

Remember we are researching together, not saying this is true. We are not trying to instill fear, but impart knowledge and provide other seekers with the desire to find their own answers.

Bottomline for me, I feel we are where we are supposed to be. I also beleve we knew what purpose we would serve, and when we would physically leave. I have no fear, but I do like to know and understand.

It is, as it is should be. Peace and love, Mandala

[passiglight]

Hi there,,, just found this old document,,,,,not sure if its real or correct but its relevant to the subject matter........

http://www.zetatalk.com/safelocs.pdf

Cosmic love to all

[Muzz]

Hi passing light the link doesnt work do you know whats up with it?
Cheers Muzz

[jackovesk]

Question to atticus only please...........

Are we about to experience a magnetic pole shift ?

Cosmic love to all

We already have to some extent.

Post #2835 http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?12987-Questions-and-Answers-from-Bill-about-the-Charles-material/page142

[passiglight]

Hi passing light the link doesnt work do you know whats up with it?
Cheers Muzz

Hi Muzz,,sorry don't know whats up with the link it works ok for me. It's a pdf document.

I have read the document and it is extensive but it looks like channelled zeta reticulan i believe,, however it is extremly detailed but cannot verify its accuracy. i have downloaded copy if you want me to send it to you :-)))

[Muzz]

Hi Passinglight thanks its working now.

[Richard]

Hi there,,, just found this old document,,,,,not sure if its real or correct but its relevant to the subject matter........

http://www.zetatalk.com/safelocs.pdf

Cosmic love to all

Just a friendly reminder, anything produced under the zetatalk banner is pure :bs:

read here http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?6111-Zeta-talk&p=56602&viewfull=1#post56602 or research it for yourself.

[Bill Ryan]

Question to atticus only please...........

Are we about to experience a magnetic pole shift ?

Cosmic love to all

We already have to some extent.

Post #2835 http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?12987-Questions-and-Answers-from-Bill-about-the-Charles-material/page142

Hi, Folks:

A magnetic pole shift is not a physical pole shift. It would have effects of all kinds (if it were to happen) - but the Earth does not physically wobble or move at all.

[romina]

Hi, Folks:

A magnetic pole shift is not a physical pole shift. It would have effects of all kinds (if it were to happen) - but the Earth does not physically wobble or move at all.

And I'd like to add, when I see streching of some facts to fit the story in any video, I tend to dismiss the info. Both of these have that streching...

[Mandala]

Guys, it seems Bill feels this is info is regarding the on-going magnetic not geographical/physical shift. Dates don't ususlly come to fruition,
more likely a hoax. Thanks for looking at what was cropping up on the net.

[sunnyrap]

I got an email today with a video link talking about the FEMA exercises preparing for a major EARTHQUAKE on the New Madrid. I'm wondering if all the pole shift noise is a distraction for a planned event:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b57PFoCRheE&feature=player_embedded

[Teakai]

Woah, really interesting stuff. Maybe 2012 is just a distraction.

Warning - some readers may find the following scary:

Found this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Djv0XTxbIo8

And apparently the 'ptb' have been passing their 'hidden' messages via mainstream media and things are hotting up fast.

This for instance:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kWhFv22nB_k

Something to consider.

[Teakai]

Hi Mandala I found this on ATS

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OaTlqafeJZE&feature=player_embedded#

Well! That's odd. Did anybody here actually hear the call in that he's referring to?

[Teakai]

I'm thinking this is the retired guy - again - some people may find this scary. I feel I ought to say that, while in the same breath saying, that if you ignore it you may be doing so at your own peril:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MaeHbSAE3No&NR=1

[passiglight]

Well there you go eh !!!!!

Silly old me, fancy me thinking the planet was gonna flip over Doh,,, now we wouldn't want that would we, or all us on the top would be on the bottom and then we'd fall off !!!

Unless of course one listens to the russian propanganda with regard to haarp,,,, but hey that's another story...

And silly old me for thinking that a pole flip mean't a flip,, as in the toss of a coin,,

And silly old me for reading channeled zeta reticulan fairy tales.

Anyway, the subject is is referred to as Geomagnetic Field Reversal and it's counterpart is referred to as the magnetopause

After some hours of research i have found very little imho intelligent evidence to support the theory of a rapid Geomagnetic Field Reversal that is implied by the use of the word "flip"

This link is with regard to a lecture given by Geophysicist Cathy Constable at university of california and imho is is highly intelligent.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lJxrs0v-3b0

The main and most imho intelligent polar opposite of the scenario that i could find comes from an interview by Mr Dr Deagle who has written a couple of books on this issue. (whom i believe is known to this forum) with Mr Robert Felix

link for this interview is here

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oYr3LqZJt0s&feature=related

Of course imho the information contained in the Dr Deagle link is absurd and should be disregarded as it purports the theory of a quick Geomagnetic Field Reversal and a dramatic reduction of the magnetopause and the subsequent Armageddon scenario that would ensue this event,,,,,,

and that, as i am led to believe, is scaremongering alarmist fantasy and, as i am led to believe, goes against the grain of the intellect that is project avalon.

Off course its fine and dandy to believe that the nwo is intending to wipe out 7 billion human beings and that there is an entity who works for a guy who is 5000 years old and that some of us are being recruited to enlist as enlightened saviors of a brave new world.

Silly old me

[passiglight]

Oh and by the way in case your thinking, well where's the evidence of any mass extinction event that would have happened the last time we had a Geomagnetic Field Reversal, well you could be forgiven for thinking that the super volcano eruption that caused Long Valley Caldera in eastern California 760,000 years ago was a pointer to this, and that this date is commonly regarded to as the last time we had a Geomagnetic Field Reversal.

[passiglight]

And i suppose silly old me could be excused for thinking "they" could use HAARP to switch off or turn down the Geomagnetic Field and the magnetopause, which, by the way, could also be the same field that generates the old world matrix and is currently imho the method used to raise the frequency of the population on earth,,,which would in turn dumb us down so we couldn't vibrate at a higher frequency.

I dunno,, there i go again,,,,, must be working on me first -))))

[Fred259]

Well there you go eh !!!!!

Silly old me, fancy me thinking the planet was gonna flip over Doh,,, now we wouldn't want that would we, or all us on the top would be on the bottom and then we'd fall off !!!

Unless of course one listens to the russian propanganda with regard to haarp,,,, but hey that's another story...

And silly old me for thinking that a pole flip mean't a flip,, as in the toss of a coin,,

And silly old me for reading channeled zeta reticulan fairy tales.

Anyway, the subject is is referred to as Geomagnetic Field Reversal and it's counterpart is referred to as the magnetopause

After some hours of research i have found very little imho intelligent evidence to support the theory of a rapid Geomagnetic Field Reversal that is implied by the use of the word "flip"

This link is with regard to a lecture given by Geophysicist Cathy Constable at university of california and imho is is highly intelligent.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lJxrs0v-3b0

The main and most imho intelligent polar opposite of the scenario that i could find comes from an interview by Mr Dr Deagle who has written a couple of books on this issue. (whom i believe is known to this forum) with Mr Robert Felix

link for this interview is here

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oYr3LqZJt0s&feature=related

Of course imho the information contained in the Dr Deagle link is absurd and should be disregarded as it purports the theory of a quick Geomagnetic Field Reversal and a dramatic reduction of the magnetopause and the subsequent Armageddon scenario that would ensue this event,,,,,,

and that, as i am led to believe, is scaremongering alarmist fantasy and, as i am led to believe, goes against the grain of the intellect that is project avalon.

Off course its fine and dandy to believe that the nwo is intending to wipe out 7 billion human beings and that there is an entity who works for a guy who is 5000 years old and that some of us are being recruited to enlist as enlightened saviors of a brave new world.

Silly old me

Agreed. Well said passinglight.

This man is thinking with his head and talking sense.

[bluestflame]

passinglight , ...i get it , about the geomagnetic field having something to do with polarised thinking , duality separatist type stuff

as the fields reboot ....

[Fred259]

Oh and by the way in case your thinking, well where's the evidence of any mass extinction event that would have happened the last time we had a Geomagnetic Field Reversal, well you could be forgiven for thinking that the super volcano eruption that caused Long Valley Caldera in eastern California 760,000 years ago was a pointer to this, and that this date is commonly regarded to as the last time we had a Geomagnetic Field Reversal.

Agreed. Well said passinglight.

Agreed very sensible and responsible post.

[Fred259]

And i suppose silly old me could be excused for thinking "they" could use HAARP to switch off or turn down the Geomagnetic Field and the magnetopause, which, by the way, could also be the same field that generates the old world matrix and is currently imho the method used to raise the frequency of the population on earth,,,which would in turn dumb us down so we couldn't vibrate at a higher frequency.

I dunno,, there i go again,,,,, must be working on me first -))))



Agreed. Well said passinglight.


Yet more clear thinking… that’s three in a row.

Come on folks stop believing this utter garbage about pole reversals.

But one moment I have something I can share:

I saw I promise I saw, Princess Diana walking down Oxford Street, London yesterday afternoon with a Selfridge’s shopping bag over her shoulder!

Is this possible? No

Is it possible for the North Pole to reverse? No.

Is it possible for the Magnetic pole to reverse? No.

The North Pole and the Magnetic pole don’t actually exist! They are just point's on a chart.

Very few people understand magnetic polarity or flux and so all this chit chat about reversing poles is grossly irresponsible.

Come on folks its being put out by the New World Order to frighten humanity, just like swine flu and all the other rubbish they publish. Just laugh at it.

What’s more important is this. While we think and ponder with much head scratching miles away from reality on a subject we know nothing about, the reality is THIS. The Jews are being bagged and tagged with RFID chips by law. Think about it, when was the last time that happened, and after Israel who will be next!

[Teakai]

Hi Fred - There are supposed to be 3 according to some and I think we have already had one - with the Chili quake.
Yet, who knows to what degree they may shift.
There was a time - according to some writings that the sun rose on the other side of the world. That would make for a pretty big shift.

And just to say - I think maybe you have misunderstood Passiglight's posts.
At least, one of us has. :)

[Teakai]

This link is with regard to a lecture given by Geophysicist Cathy Constable at university of california and imho is is highly intelligent.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lJxrs0v-3b0



An interesting and informative lecture. Thanks, Passiglight.

[Teakai]

This is the same woman who was ignored on the Alex Jones show about information she was trying to give out.

Listen to the evasive response and daft question she gets from George Noory as to whether she spends all her time calling into radio shows. It sounds like he's just fobbing her off and avoiding having her talk about the subject.

Sure makes me wonder if George Noory and Alex Jones aren't just a distraction for something else.

I've been looking for the call in on the Alex Jones show, but so far no luck.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rABZl8o6wEE&feature=related

[Mandala]

Passinglight, I'm listening to everything you are saying. Thank you.

[Teakai]

Finally found it:
http://archives2011.gcnlive.com/Archives2011/feb11/AlexJones/0203114.mp3
It's about a quarter of the way through - she calls herself Belle. I;ve never posted mp3 before so I hope it works OK.

I also found it on the video.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IDm1l8WhDxU&feature=related
at the 7:07 mark - so it wasn't removed at all. Maybe that's why the user removed his video - he realised his mistake.

Well - that was an hour of my life I'll never get back.

[Fred259]

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North Pole.

The North Pole is just a point on the surface of the planet. It has no land mass as illustrated by these images of the British & US Navy submarines surfacing at the North Pole. All three submarines had sailed under the North Pole. Between the surface of the pole, and the seabed is clear water.

Illustrated below and images of the Russian navy planting a flag on the seabed at the North Pole. Given this area of the planet has no landmass the North Pole can’t shift.




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Russian Navy planting the Russian flag on the ocean floor under the North Pole. (above & below)




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Magnetic North.

The North Magnetic pole is situated at Ellesmere Island in Northern Canada at 82N around 500 miles from the North Pole. Magnetic declination is constantly changing as illustrated here.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Earth_Magnetic_Field_Declination_from_1590_to_1990.gif

Click and watch the movement of the north magnetic pole over the last 400 years.


The true point of the North Magnetic Pole is changing year by year. This change is gradual and as you can see the pendulum effect of this movement means that magnetic north will eventually reach a northerly point and then veer(clockwise) and decrease its northern track until it reaches its southerly point where it will about turn and back (anticlockwise) and again start to travel north. It’s travel north and south takes around 60-70 years.

The rate of reversals in the Earth's magnetic field has varied widely over time. 72 million years ago , the field reversed 5 times in a million years – Wikipedia.

You’ve a greater chance of being struck by lightning or falling in a *crocodiles jaws than magnetic north shifting. (*Australians Excluded)



Painting Airport Runway Directions.

Runways are painted with the direction of landing. Therefore if the direction is 340 deg magnetic 34 will be painted at the end of the runway. At the other end of the runway the reciprocal of 340 160 or 16 will be painted.

Over the years with a gradual change in magnetic variation (declination) it’s necessary to update maps charts and the runway number. This continual change in magnetic variation is illustrated on in the Wikipedia example.

Aircraft use gyro stabilised compasses which detect the earth’s magnetic flux in the earth’s core and this information is presented on the compass.

The detection equipment is located in the wing tip so that it’s sufficiently far away from other electrical equipment and your mobile phone for example. The aircraft compass is also gyro stabilised and set in two gimbals. Therefore regardless of aircraft attitude the compass will always point to magnetic north in Canada.

At airport’s navigational equipment is also slaved to magnetic north and transmits on a frequency. The pilot selects this frequency on a radio box and the compass will point to the navigational equipment. Painting the runway numbers is a low priority care and maintenance job. They could just as well be painting the terminal building it makes no difference.


Earth Wobble.

Reports on the internet that the earth had developed a wobble.

The earth is rotating at 6000kts/hr which is 11,000kms/hr or 17nm/second. If a wobble were to develop this would be like having a wobbly bicycle wheel. However unlike the bicycle wheel the speed of earth rotation and the centrifugal twisting force would be so great that islands like Taiwan, Tasmania and Tahiti would be ripped from the seabed and hurled into space. It’s impossible, so no wobble.

Earth Tilting.

It was reported again on the internet that following the earthquake in Chile the earth was 3 degrees away from its axis. (They didn’t say if it was left or right!)

3 degrees is 180 nm so this would be a major problem. On investigation it was later found to be 3 inches from its axis of rotation.

3 degrees is 180nm is 13,132,800 inches - compared with 3 inches.

Don’t worry about this.


The South Atlantic Anomaly.


This is the area where the Earth's inner Van Allen radiation belt comes closest to the surface of the earth close to the south pole. This really relates to the position and angle of inclination of satellites and has no real connection with the earth’s magnetic flux. Obviously the compass always points north because it’s strongest in the north and weakest in the south. Don’t worry about this the GPS satellites are 10,898nm up and a few degrees isn’t going to make much difference buy a proper map and even if you are in Antarctica please dont worry about this. IMHO.


Who owns the media?


This is Rothschild and the New World Order putting out all this rubbish. Seriously folks these pole shift reports are utter rubbish. It’s just people trying to make money and rip you off with the latest DVD report. It annoys me. Instead of wasting money on DVD donate the money to Project Avalon instead.


Pole Shift Home Experiment.

If you are concerned about the magnetic pole shifting here is an experiment you can do at home.

Hard iron is hard to magnetise but one magnatised it retains it's magnetism.

Soft iron is easy to magnetise but once magnatised it looses it's magnetism.


Take a soft iron object perhaps a golf club or ring spanner and leave it for 7 days on a concrete garage floor or outhouse.

On day 7 lift the spanner and you will notice that magnetism from the earth’s core has magnatised the spanner.

Try lifting a screw.

Replace the spanner on the concrete and 7 days later again lift the spanner from the floor and try lifting the screw.

Try lifting two screws.

If you are unable to lift the screw earths magnetism has decreased.

This would be a concern. PM Bill and report your findings.

[Teakai]

Hi Fred - how do the government make money out of a pole shift? I haven't heard it being officially mentioned, so it's pretty hard to cash in on, unlike global warming *snort*

I watched the Wiki link. That's also covered in this video, but going back a lot further than 400 years:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lJxrs0v-3b0

[Fred259]

Hi Fred - how do the government make money out of a pole shift? I haven't heard it being officially mentioned, so it's pretty hard to cash in on, unlike global warming *snort*

I watched the Wiki link. That's also covered in this video, but going back a lot further than 400 years:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lJxrs0v-3b0

Well yes that’s a Scottish Lady so you’re getting it as it is. Wiki is run by a Zionist and this always needs to be taken into consideration, doesn’t it.

I have to say I’m impressed with your thorough research Teaks, is this the sort of stuff you entertain your guests with around the BBQ!

[Teakai]

Well yes that’s a Scottish Lady so you’re getting it as it is. Wiki is run by a Zionist and this always needs to be taken into consideration, doesn’t it.

I have to say I’m impressed with your thorough research Teaks, is this the sort of stuff you entertain your guests with around the BBQ!

*snort* Hardly. Nobody but you guys to talk this stuff over with.

BTW - the video was courtesy of Passiglight - I just reposted it.

But, my spidey senses tell me you haven't watched it :)

You still haven't told me how the government are making money out of a pole shift they're not telling us about.

[Fred259]

Well yes that’s a Scottish Lady so you’re getting it as it is. Wiki is run by a Zionist and this always needs to be taken into consideration, doesn’t it.

I have to say I’m impressed with your thorough research Teaks, is this the sort of stuff you entertain your guests with around the BBQ!

*snort* Hardly. Nobody but you guys to talk this stuff over with.

BTW - the video was courtesy of Passiglight - I just reposted it.

But, my spidey senses tell me you haven't watched it :)

You still haven't told me how the government are making money out of a pole shift they're not telling us about.

Mmmhhh well I watched the intro with the English lady and 5 minutes, then decided it was boring…. I’m trying to remember something to post to you but I’m going back 25 years and I want to get it right.

No I mean sites like Alex Jones, I hate all the garbage he has around the side.

PS Teaks Can you do us a favour?

[Icecold]

Nasa - science behind magnetic pole shifting of astronomical bodies such as the sun and the earth.....


http://science.nasa.gov/science-news/science-at-nasa/2001/ast15feb_1/

[sunnyrap]

I must confess to suddenly feeling like one in a group of kids around a campfire telling 'scary stories'. Latest versions of Goulies and Ghosties and Things that go bump in the night: "Nibiru-Comets-Financial Crash-Food Shortages-Earthquakes-Virus-Marshal Law--OH MY!" Not to say real scary stuff isn't happening--it is. But part of me feels as if all is being engineered like a real life rockem-sockem video game. Hope some of you get what I'm saying here...as I'm speaking from a perspective of powerful beings at powerful play

This is not entirely my idea ...I got it from a guy named Bob Scheinfeld (son of the founder of Manpower, Inc.) He's a very interesting guy who is now into the 'transformation' industry: http://www.robertscheinfeld.com/

[Teakai]

Mmmhhh well I watched the intro with the English lady and 5 minutes, then decided it was boring….?
:lol:
Fair enough.



I’m trying to remember something to post to you but I’m going back 25 years and I want to get it right.


That sounds interesting.



PS Teaks Can you do us a favour?

Depends. Try me. However, if it's about not discussing pole shifts/reversals - then please don't ask. I find the topic extremely interesting. I can understand if others don't - but, then, no one is forcing anyone to read this thread.

I'm pretty sure I can help you with anything else :)

[Teakai]

I must confess to suddenly feeling like one in a group of kids around a campfire telling 'scary stories'. Latest versions of Goulies and Ghosties and Things that go bump in the night: "Nibiru-Comets-Financial Crash-Food Shortages-Earthquakes-Virus-Marshal Law--OH MY!" Not to say real scary stuff isn't happening--it is. But part of me feels as if all is being engineered like a real life rockem-sockem video game. Hope some of you get what I'm saying here...as I'm speaking from a perspective of powerful beings at powerful play

This is not entirely my idea ...I got it from a guy named Bob Scheinfeld (son of the founder of Manpower, Inc.) He's a very interesting guy who is now into the 'transformation' industry: http://www.robertscheinfeld.com/

I agree, Sunny rap - it does feel a bit like that.

I'm not sure who or what you mean by powerful beings, though. Are you meaning the human kind with advanced technology - or a power even higher than that?

[Jonathon]

Definitely has the feel of 'campfire stories'. The only things I would suggest are:
1) If anyone feels even an inkling of concern over the potential for some grand disaster, store up some food and supplies and then FORGET about it.
2) Fear spreads like wildfire for a reason. Don't get sucked in and start emailing everyone you know only to look like an absolute idiot and lose all credibility you ever had. Something important may come up later, and you won't have a chance to get through to anyone. Try to prove it wrong 1st. Usually doesn't take long.

[Fred259]

Mmmhhh well I watched the intro with the English lady and 5 minutes, then decided it was boring….?
:lol:
Fair enough.



I’m trying to remember something to post to you but I’m going back 25 years and I want to get it right.


That sounds interesting.



PS Teaks Can you do us a favour?

Depends. Try me. However, if it's about not discussing pole shifts/reversals - then please don't ask. I find the topic extremely interesting. I can understand if others don't - but, then, no one is forcing anyone to read this thread.

I'm pretty sure I can help you with anything else :)

Teaks, If you want to discuss magnetism fire ahead, I respect you for at least sitting down and listening to the professors presentation.

What bug’s me are these two minute sound reports that come over from radio talk shows in the US followed by a commercial are in my view grossly irresponsible.

It would be better for Alex Jones to contact the professor and invite her on the show for 40 minutes without any breaks and it would all be sorted.

[passiglight]

Yes Teakai i agree with you totally,,

in my opinion, i do not understand the reactions to this thread,,, no one is obliged to open it and or read the stuff therein.

In my opinion Its not about scaremongering it is about researching a thread topic, if one finds that scary campfire stuff,, then move away from the camp fire and do something that sets one more at ease.

In my opinion and through researching this subject i conclude ( and its only my opinion)

Nasa has spent a lot of money researching the Geomagnetic Field and its counterparts not just on planet earth but on many planetary objects in space in general, including our sun.

There seem to be very many scientists who believe and accept the geomagnetic field is a genuine thing.

Fred i do not understand your opposing viewpoint on this, "but hey carry on dude".

There is also another feature that seems to me to be interlinked with earths geomagnetic field and that is the schumann resonance field

There is some more interesting stuff with regard to how our planet actually orbits the sun.

These links were copied from a thread entitled "this is how we build and operate our ufos.

http://www.youtube.com/user/saucertu...32/nP4zQ4R8vJg

http://www.youtube.com/user/saucertu...33/ubka5f1vUC8

http://www.youtube.com/user/saucertu...34/BTGxrLqCOCo

http://www.youtube.com/user/saucertu...35/ZyDptHiSaWY

http://www.youtube.com/user/saucertu...36/cSEtx5C2pkQ

http://www.youtube.com/user/saucertu...37/ksSbUmNym5c

http://www.youtube.com/user/saucertu...38/IbHLOQcOXXc

http://www.youtube.com/user/saucertu...39/1DtyudFd4M8

I have included these links because in my opinion there is an understanding of gravity that i did not comprehend before.

The one thing i gleaned, (and once again this is my opinion and therefore does not really count), from the above links was that the planets orbit in a gravitational ripple.

My personal interpretation of this effect is that the planets seem to "roll" along in a gravitational groove.

And further more during my research with regard to this thread,

I have drawn another conclusion which once again is my own humble opinion and should therefore be completely disregarded,,,,,,,,,

It seems to me and imo, that it is the inner and outer parts of the earths core which are rotating and imo seem to be causing in turn the action of planet earth to rotate,, and this action seems to me to be generating the geomagnetic field, and further more it would seem that the two parts of the core don't rotate too freely,, they can slide over each other and against the earths mantel and can get snagged on themselves in the process.

Look,,,,, i am not a scientist of any kind i can research any subject on-line same as anyone can,, i do my best to find the best and most relevant info i can,,,, this means looking at scientific data and alternative science data too...

But one must draw ones on conclusions and do ones own research, i strongly recommend this.

Fred is entitled to his views as are we all...

But i do not resonate with freds comments at all
In fact my research has drawn me to some new and exciting conclusions, that make me explore not just this thread but other stuff too.

If i can do this research with my dumb ass methods towards learning then anyone can.....

Cosmic love

[Fred259]

Yes Teakai i agree with you totally,,

in my opinion, i do not understand the reactions to this thread,,, no one is obliged to open it and or read the stuff therein.

In my opinion Its not about scaremongering it is about researching a thread topic, if one finds that scary campfire stuff,, then move away from the camp fire and do something that sets one more at ease.

In my opinion and through researching this subject i conclude ( and its only my opinion)

Nasa has spent a lot of money researching the Geomagnetic Field and its counterparts not just on planet earth but on many planetary objects in space in general, including our sun.

There seem to be very many scientists who believe and accept the geomagnetic field is a genuine thing.

Fred i do not understand your opposing viewpoint on this, "but hey carry on dude".

There is also another feature that seems to me to be interlinked with earths geomagnetic field and that is the schumann resonance field

There is some more interesting stuff with regard to how our planet actually orbits the sun.

These links were copied from a thread entitled "this is how we build and operate our ufos.

http://www.youtube.com/user/saucertu...32/nP4zQ4R8vJg

http://www.youtube.com/user/saucertu...33/ubka5f1vUC8

http://www.youtube.com/user/saucertu...34/BTGxrLqCOCo

http://www.youtube.com/user/saucertu...35/ZyDptHiSaWY

http://www.youtube.com/user/saucertu...36/cSEtx5C2pkQ

http://www.youtube.com/user/saucertu...37/ksSbUmNym5c

http://www.youtube.com/user/saucertu...38/IbHLOQcOXXc

http://www.youtube.com/user/saucertu...39/1DtyudFd4M8

I have included these links because in my opinion there is an understanding of gravity that i did not comprehend before.

The one thing i gleaned, (and once again this is my opinion and therefore does not really count), from the above links was that the planets orbit in a gravitational ripple.

My personal interpretation of this effect is that the planets seem to "roll" along in a gravitational groove.

And further more during my research with regard to this thread,

I have drawn another conclusion which once again is my own humble opinion and should therefore be completely disregarded,,,,,,,,,

It seems to me and imo, that it is the inner and outer parts of the earths core which are rotating and imo seem to be causing in turn the action of planet earth to rotate,, and this action seems to me to be generating the geomagnetic field, and further more it would seem that the two parts of the core don't rotate too freely,, they can slide over each other and against the earths mantel and can get snagged on themselves in the process.

Look,,,,, i am not a scientist of any kind i can research any subject on-line same as anyone can,, i do my best to find the best and most relevant info i can,,,, this means looking at scientific data and alternative science data too...

But one must draw ones on conclusions and do ones own research, i strongly recommend this.

Fred is entitled to his views as are we all...

But i do not resonate with freds comments at all
In fact my research has drawn me to some new and exciting conclusions, that make me explore not just this thread but other stuff too.

If i can do this research with my dumb ass methods towards learning then anyone can.....

Cosmic love




There seem to be very many scientists who believe and accept the geomagnetic field is a genuine thing.

Fred i do not understand your opposing viewpoint on this, "but hey carry on dude".

I I didnt say that, I don’t dispute this. Has it happened before yes millions of years ago? Will it happen again? On the basis that it has happened before probably yes.

What I am saying though is should this happen the world is not going to fall apart or self destruct. Problems may occur and they may be serious problems but we will still all be alive and functioning.

My second point deals with these ridiculous reports that the magnetic pole is drifting towards Siberia, they make it sound as it its drifting away forever.

First Siberia is a long way from Northern Canada even by great circle. It might move further north for a year or so and then it will veer easterly and return back the 40-50 odd miles that it had previously travelled and decrease in strength. When this happens the north will decrease in strength and magnetic south will increase in strength. Its done this for millions of years why should it change now?

Scientists know this; the problem is you only get half the story. In a 2 minute CBS news slot the poor guy has to cut half the science because of the commercial break. It’s madness.

Im very happy to post on the subject, provided its not about some 2 minute video clip prepared by some goof in a back room who botched the video together and says Look Pole Shift ! Proof…


If i can do this research with my dumb ass methods towards learning then anyone can.....

If as you say you are doing research you are not dumb ass, why do you say that!.

The dumb are those who don’t do any research.

What points about magnetic declination that I have said do you not agree with? Lets try and clear that up and then we can move forward on the same page. I agree it’s a fascinating subject?

[passiglight]

Hi fred ,, thank you for last reply, i am now resonating with you -))

My point about being dumb ass was because of my learning methods, which are not as refined as they could be, this is due to a completely malfunctioned schooling process lol

Will get back to you on subject soon as i have commitments for next few hours.Once again thank you.

cosmic love

[White Rabbit]

I am not sure if you have this information, it was in the news back in early January. May not be much, but it has to do with the impact of the shifting that has been happening... enough to close a runway at an airport in Florida to correct the designation...

http://www2.tbo.com/content/2011/jan/05/060831/shift-of-earths-magnetic-north-pole-impacts-tampa-/

~White Rabbit

[Fred259]

I am not sure if you have this information, it was in the news back in early January. May not be much, but it has to do with the impact of the shifting that has been happening... enough to close a runway at an airport in Florida to correct the designation...

http://www2.tbo.com/content/2011/jan/05/060831/shift-of-earths-magnetic-north-pole-impacts-tampa-/

~White Rabbit


White Rabbit ~ don’t worry about this, yes they were painting the runway numbers but they have been doing that ever since the runway was built at Tampa. It’s the same all over the world. In 2-3 years time they will be painting them again back to the original numbers. Its irresponsible journalism. You and your family are safe.



Painting Airport Runway Directions.

Runways are painted with the direction of landing. Therefore if the direction is 340 deg magnetic 34 will be painted at the end of the runway. At the other end of the runway the reciprocal of 340 160 or 16 will be painted.

Over the years with a gradual change in magnetic variation (declination) it’s necessary to update maps charts and the runway number. This continual change in magnetic variation has been going on for millions of years.

Aircraft use gyro stabilised compasses which detect the earth’s magnetic flux in the earth’s core and this information is presented on the compass.

The detection equipment is located in the wing tip so that it’s sufficiently far away from other electrical equipment and your mobile phone for example. The aircraft compass is also gyro stabilised and set in two gimbals. Therefore regardless of aircraft attitude the compass will always point to magnetic north in Canada.

At airport’s navigational equipment is also slaved to magnetic north and transmits on a frequency. The pilot selects this frequency on a radio box and the compass will point to the navigational equipment. Painting the runway numbers is a low priority care and maintenance job. They could just as well be painting the terminal building it makes no difference.

[take]

Ah. Just wrote a long reply and accidentally destroyed it. Great.
Earth's magnetic poles are an interesting subject. Always changing and always moving. I don't know what the details of Earth's rotation and/or the magnetic field are, but I'm going to agree with what Bill said. Eventhough he said that the Earth would not physically move at all ;) I'm sure he did'nt mean it like that.
I myself found out just about a year ago, that that this giant spaceship we call Earth is flying through space at the speed of something like a 100 000km/h :O (60 000 miles I guess?)
Makes you think, doesn't it ^^

Take care.

[passiglight]

There is something very very important about the geomagnetic field that imo is getting completely overlooked,,

imo it and the schumann resonance field and the magnetoshere are all connected and integral parts of another field of energy.......

That which is referred to as the matrix

And imo is exactly the reason why this thread is so very interesting

[Teakai]

It would be better for Alex Jones to contact the professor and invite her on the show for 40 minutes without any breaks and it would all be sorted.

I haven't heard Alex Jones talk about pole shifts or reversals at all - but, I only listen to his shows every now and then. I wonder if it's a topic he's avoiding.

And why should the professor need to go on the Alex Jones show to say what she said? Isn't the lecture relevant enough in itself?

Just to say: the woman who called into the Alex Jones and George Noory show isn't the same woman who gave the hour long lecture about magnetism. It's sort of weird that you found the lecture boring seeing as you're fine with discussing magnetism.

[Teakai]

There is something very very important about the geomagnetic field that imo is getting completely overlooked,,

imo it and the schumann resonance field and the magnetoshere are all connected and integral parts of another field of energy.......

That which is referred to as the matrix

And imo is exactly the reason why this thread is so very interesting

Makes me wonder if it has anything to do with the large number of planes down in the US over the past few days. Somehow disabling equipment, perhaps. And maybe the death of the fish and birds. Some kind of intereference with their own inbuilt compass throwing things off for them.

[silentghost80]

i thought they shifted all the time

[Fred259]

[QUOTE]I haven't heard Alex Jones talk about pole shifts or reversals at all - but, I only listen to his shows every now and then. I wonder if it's a topic he's avoiding.

Neither have I, he tends to stick with what he knows, FEMA camps and stirring up the rabble rousers, who pay the mortgage.




And why should the professor need to go on the Alex Jones show to say what she said? Isn't the lecture relevant enough in itself?
Yes indeed it is… I just get the feeling that many are quite uncertain about the future… lots of fragile people about looking for answers and being fed garbage.


Just to say: the woman who called into the Alex Jones and George Noory show isn't the same woman who gave the hour long lecture about magnetism. It's sort of weird that you found the lecture boring seeing as you're fine with discussing magnetism.

I agree, that’s my point. I didn’t find the lecture boring, in fact I felt kind of proud, you know what Im talking about, I have something big going on also so I was involved with that, but I did quite a lot of that about 25 years ago. Yea, so one of the problems here is it’s exciting and it’s great to learn and go into the metaphysical, but remember this is a public forum as well and we don’t want to upset people with hypothesis’ do we. I do think that’s quite important.

[Teakai]

I agree, that’s my point. I didn’t find the lecture boring, in fact I felt kind of proud, you know what Im talking about, I have something big going on also so I was involved with that, but I did quite a lot of that about 25 years ago. Yea, so one of the problems here is it’s exciting and it’s great to learn and go into the metaphysical, but remember this is a public forum as well and we don’t want to upset people with hypothesis’ do we. I do think that’s quite important.

Are you saying - that these things shouldn't be discussed in case they upset people?

I would have to say I disagree with you, Fred - at least in the case of adults.

I would also say that it's not helpful to promise an outcome one is unsure of.

Personally, I don't know what's going to happen - I'm just looking at the information that's out there all over the web.

[Martin]

Well on the bright site if a pole shift would occure the geographical and magnetic pole would finally be the same again. ;) Come to think of it I remember seeing a couple of shows on ARD/ ZDF which talked quite extensive about a possible pole shift. But in the end there is nothing we can do about it and I find that not to be a bad thing either.


MfG

Martin

[passiglight]

Erm,,, the matrix i was refering to is what i believe is the field of energy that is creating our lifeforce,,,,,the schumann resonance field seems to be part of it.

I have little comprehension of it other than to say,, i believe this field was originally fed by machines in the pyramids,,,,12 of them in Thoths day (only my opinion ) and i think charles was referring to the matrix as being energised by an object on the moon nowadays,,,,,,,

But the point is imo they make up the field of reality we exist in,,

(those planes were incidents, and not bad as it appears no one was injured in any of them,, there is a couple of crashes on there but they seemed minor,,,the incidents could have been any technical error.)

I have found an interesting link about the geomagnetic field reversals, which is imo worth a read as it is full of scientifically educational detail.

http://www.universetoday.com/18977/2012-no-geomagnetic-reversal/


However, this same author gave a very unglowing revue of stitchens work here,, and for me blew his credentials out the window as i personally think stitchens work is immaculate..........


http://www.universetoday.com/15167/2012-planet-x-is-not-nibiru/

That's not to say the article about the "no geomagnetic field reversal" isn't well articulated and scientifically detailed,, imo it is both.
And i would recommend reading both.

and i don't listen to alex jones or that governor bloke m8 of his because there is no need too, that's not to say i haven't before as one needs to do ones research, but personally for me, it's hard to take him seriously on some levels.

cosmic love

[Fred259]

There is something very very important about the geomagnetic field that imo is getting completely overlooked,,

imo it and the schumann resonance field and the magnetoshere are all connected and integral parts of another field of energy.......

That which is referred to as the matrix

And imo is exactly the reason why this thread is so very interesting

Makes me wonder if it has anything to do with the large number of planes down in the US over the past few days. Somehow disabling equipment, perhaps. And maybe the death of the fish and birds. Some kind of intereference with their own inbuilt compass throwing things off for them.

Your being naughty again…stop going deep down the bunny hole, you need to come up for breath.

Planes- no I don’t think so, I think you said in the other post “34 were reported” but that’s about average for the US 10 a day. Remember what was the information you were provided. It could have just been some Joe hitting the wing with the catering truck. That’s classed as an incident, and must be reported. Do you see what I mean planes down means they fall from the sky for most people….

Birds & Fish – see below

HAARP – Its been noticed that for some reason perhaps known to the PTB that all these earthquakes around the pacific rim and elsewhere are happening precisely 10,000 feet within the earths core. Not 10,150ft or 9,760ft but 10,000 feet suggesting something odd.

Now that could be worth looking at because magnet flux is all around the earth’s core and if the PTB start playing around with HAARP, this is the sort of damage that may happen.

Have a look under the earth changes thread the guy from Hilo Hawaii, has a very good video on it I was actually shocked at how often they occur its like every other day somewhere in the world….its the last page at the top.

Teaks the more I think about this, HAARP at 10,000ft fractures the earth core, creates an earthquake, damages or disturbs the earth’s magnetic flux, which destabilizes the birds and fish by frequency oscillation ..Something along those lines..PERHAPS..IMHO

[passiglight]

Further point here,,, imo,,,,
we ,the planet, aubreys glorius machine, all entities, geomagnetic field, SR, everything, are connected to or make up the matrix,, and the matrix can vibrate at different frequencies .

[passiglight]

HAARP also imo can affect the matrix

[Cognitive Dissident]

I am not at all an expert on this, but there are different issues here, as I think Bill pointed out - I am trying to get some clarity on what is actually going on right now, and it seems that there is some sort of geomagnetic reversal starting to happen, based on the following two facts (correct me if I am wrong, somebody!):

1) The Earth's magnetic field is getting weaker (can be the precursor to a geomagnetic reversal)

2) The North Magnetic Pole is moving faster (about 25 miles per year, was only 1 or 2 miles per year) - not fast, but in a geological sense, this is very speedy!

None of this means that a geomagnetic reversal will happen soon (although it might!) - but it does mean, to me at least, that something is going on.

Next question, what is going on?!?

Here is gets tricky fast, because there is little public information that I can understand out there! Part of the problem is that a geomagnetic reversal would not be a global disaster like Day After Tomorrow, but it would be very disruptive and probably knock the global economy on the head for a while... not something that you want to tell people about if you are the PTB...

Can anyone add anything to the above analysis, or correct it?

[Teakai]

Erm,,, the matrix i was refering to is what i believe is the field of energy that is creating our lifeforce,,,,,the schumann resonance field seems to be part of it.

I have little comprehension of it other than to say,, i believe this field was originally fed by machines in the pyramids,,,,12 of them in Thoths day (only my opinion ) and i think charles was referring to the matrix as being energised by an object on the moon nowadays,,,,,,,

But the point is imo they make up the field of reality we exist in,,


Hi Passiglight. David Icke says the same thing re: the moon making the matrix. In that it’s a bad thing used to control us.
Sounds weird – but quite convincing when David Icke says it.

I haven’t been reading Charles – so don’t know how he was putting it across.





(those planes were incidents, and not bad as it appears no one was injured in any of them,, there is a couple of crashes on there but they seemed minor,,,the incidents could have been any technical error.)


I have no idea – they were just emergency somethings. I wasn’t able to find information of the outcomes. Where did you get the info about the people affected?
Makes sense to me that if the magnetic field is changing it may have some kind of impact on the magnetic instruments on planes.




I have found an interesting link about the geomagnetic field reversals, which is imo worth a read as it is full of scientifically educational detail.

http://www.universetoday.com/18977/2012-no-geomagnetic-reversal/


However, this same author gave a very unglowing revue of stitchens work here,, and for me blew his credentials out the window as i personally think stitchens work is immaculate..........


http://www.universetoday.com/15167/2012-planet-x-is-not-nibiru/

That's not to say the article about the "no geomagnetic field reversal" isn't well articulated and scientifically detailed,, imo it is both.
And i would recommend reading both.

and i don't listen to alex jones or that governor bloke m8 of his because there is no need too, that's not to say i haven't before as one needs to do ones research, but personally for me, it's hard to take him seriously on some levels.

cosmic love

Shall check out the links. According to Arizona Wilder, Sitchin was an illuminati disinfo agent.
Me, I don’t know. I watched Arizona Wilder’s interview and she sounded convincing.
I’ve only dabbled in Zecharia Sitchin’s work – very shallowly.
I think Zecharia Sitchin also warned David Icke off the reptilian thing.

[Teakai]

There is something very very important about the geomagnetic field that imo is getting completely overlooked,,

imo it and the schumann resonance field and the magnetoshere are all connected and integral parts of another field of energy.......

That which is referred to as the matrix

And imo is exactly the reason why this thread is so very interesting

Makes me wonder if it has anything to do with the large number of planes down in the US over the past few days. Somehow disabling equipment, perhaps. And maybe the death of the fish and birds. Some kind of intereference with their own inbuilt compass throwing things off for them.

Your being naughty again…stop going deep down the bunny hole, you need to come up for breath.

Planes- no I don’t think so, I think you said in the other post “34 were reported” but that’s about average for the US 10 a day. Remember what was the information you were provided. It could have just been some Joe hitting the wing with the catering truck. That’s classed as an incident, and must be reported. Do you see what I mean planes down means they fall from the sky for most people….

Birds & Fish – see below

HAARP – Its been noticed that for some reason perhaps known to the PTB that all these earthquakes around the pacific rim and elsewhere are happening precisely 10,000 feet within the earths core. Not 10,150ft or 9,760ft but 10,000 feet suggesting something odd.

Now that could be worth looking at because magnet flux is all around the earth’s core and if the PTB start playing around with HAARP, this is the sort of damage that may happen.

Have a look under the earth changes thread the guy from Hilo Hawaii, has a very good video on it I was actually shocked at how often they occur its like every other day somewhere in the world….its the last page at the top.

Teaks the more I think about this, HAARP at 10,000ft fractures the earth core, creates an earthquake, damages or disturbs the earth’s magnetic flux, which destabilizes the birds and fish by frequency oscillation ..Something along those lines..PERHAPS..IMHO

*tsk* How is thinking that a changing magnetic field would have an effect on magnetic equipment and animals going down the bunny hole? :)

I have been thinking that maybe this is all caused by HAARP.
Or maybe it isn’t.
Maybe it’s simply part of a natural cyclical event that occurs every so many thousands of years.

Perhaps the planet ellenin, or Niburu or X or whatever name it is called is nearing earth along it’s own planetary orbit and this is what happens every time it does.

Or maybe it's what happens when the earth gets closer and closer to the dark rift, or the black hole at the centre of the galaxy.

Who really knows?

But, if our frequency is deliberately controlled by the moon – it seems to me to make little sense that HAARP should try and disrupt it by altering the magnetic field.

[Moemers]

http://classifieds.salem-news.com/globaltemp.php

[Teakai]

http://www.universetoday.com/18977/2012-no-geomagnetic-reversal/[/url]


However, this same author gave a very unglowing revue of stitchens work here,, and for me blew his credentials out the window as i personally think stitchens work is immaculate..........


http://www.universetoday.com/15167/2012-planet-x-is-not-nibiru/


cosmic love

Hi Passiglight - I read the articles. They're a bit dated, though - 2008. Elenin has been detected since then. I don't know if Elenin is just a vicious rumour or not, though.

Would the government tell us if it existed?

I doubt it.

I'm going to do some more research on it and see what I can find.

[Fred259]

I agree, that’s my point. I didn’t find the lecture boring, in fact I felt kind of proud, you know what Im talking about, I have something big going on also so I was involved with that, but I did quite a lot of that about 25 years ago. Yea, so one of the problems here is it’s exciting and it’s great to learn and go into the metaphysical, but remember this is a public forum as well and we don’t want to upset people with hypothesis’ do we. I do think that’s quite important.


Are you saying - that these things shouldn't be discussed in case they upset people?

I would have to say I disagree with you, Fred - at least in the case of adults.

I would also say that it's not helpful to promise an outcome one is unsure of.

Personally, I don't know what's going to happen - I'm just looking at the information that's out there all over the web.

No, No not at all, provided it sensible….I cant stop laughing read this post this guy thinks the polar ice cap has melted away and been replaced by dirt and grass….he even argues that he is right…this is the problem..


http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?13053-Where-s-the-North-Polar-Ice-Cap&p=127639&posted=1#post127639

[Teakai]

I agree, that’s my point. I didn’t find the lecture boring, in fact I felt kind of proud, you know what Im talking about, I have something big going on also so I was involved with that, but I did quite a lot of that about 25 years ago. Yea, so one of the problems here is it’s exciting and it’s great to learn and go into the metaphysical, but remember this is a public forum as well and we don’t want to upset people with hypothesis’ do we. I do think that’s quite important.


Are you saying - that these things shouldn't be discussed in case they upset people?

I would have to say I disagree with you, Fred - at least in the case of adults.

I would also say that it's not helpful to promise an outcome one is unsure of.

Personally, I don't know what's going to happen - I'm just looking at the information that's out there all over the web.

No, No not at all, provided it sensible….I cant stop laughing read this post this guy thinks the polar ice cap has melted away and been replaced by dirt and grass….he even argues that he is right…this is the problem..


http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?13053-Where-s-the-North-Polar-Ice-Cap&p=127639&posted=1#post127639

Sensible?
What constitutes sensible these days?
Our planet is run by a bunch of control freaks that may not even be human, we have been lied to through our education system our religion, science and all forms of media.
We have our food and water and children poisoned - and we think what we are told through a talking box in our lounge room is what is real.

Oh, and our atmosphere may well be conrolled artificially using the moon keeping us within a limited perceptive frequency so as to better control us - nearly forgot that bit :)

What is sensible? :)

[Teakai]

Comet Elenin sounds legitimate:
http://www.sott.net/articles/show/220343-Bright-Prospects-for-Comet-Elenin-

http://ssd.jpl.nasa.gov/sbdb.cgi?sstr=C/2010%20X1

http://spaceobs.org/en/tag/c2010-x1-elenin/

That should do to be getting on with.
:)

[Fred259]

I agree, that’s my point. I didn’t find the lecture boring, in fact I felt kind of proud, you know what Im talking about, I have something big going on also so I was involved with that, but I did quite a lot of that about 25 years ago. Yea, so one of the problems here is it’s exciting and it’s great to learn and go into the metaphysical, but remember this is a public forum as well and we don’t want to upset people with hypothesis’ do we. I do think that’s quite important.


Are you saying - that these things shouldn't be discussed in case they upset people?

I would have to say I disagree with you, Fred - at least in the case of adults.

I would also say that it's not helpful to promise an outcome one is unsure of.

Personally, I don't know what's going to happen - I'm just looking at the information that's out there all over the web.

No, No not at all, provided it sensible….I cant stop laughing read this post this guy thinks the polar ice cap has melted away and been replaced by dirt and grass….he even argues that he is right…this is the problem..


http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?13053-Where-s-the-North-Polar-Ice-Cap&p=127639&posted=1#post127639

Sensible?
What constitutes sensible these days?
Our planet is run by a bunch of control freaks that may not even be human, we have been lied to through our education system our religion, science and all forms of media.
We have our food and water and children poisoned - and we think what we are told through a talking box in our lounge room is what is real.

Oh, and our atmosphere may well be conrolled artificially using the moon keeping us within a limited perceptive frequency so as to better control us - nearly forgot that bit :)

What is sensible? :)

Sadly yes...never mind we will get it sorted out...

[Teakai]

Sadly yes...never mind we will get it sorted out...

Well, we'll certainly give it a good try, and have a jolly interesting time doing it, too :)

[unplugged]

. . .According to Arizona Wilder, Sitchin was an illuminati disinfo agent.
Me, I don’t know. I watched Arizona Wilder’s interview and she sounded convincing.
I’ve only dabbled in Zecharia Sitchin’s work – very shallowly.I think Zecharia Sitchin also warned David Icke off the reptilian thing.

[Off topic]

Yes, I listened to Red Ice radio the other day. I unfortunately can't remember who was being interviewed. However, they were talking about Sitchen. Whoever it was said that he was very disappointed in Sitchen. That he had quoted Sitchen at length in one of his books and it was brought to his attention that some of the passages he quoted from Sitchen could not be found anywhere in the translations of the Sumerian tablets. When he asked Sitchen for the references to the material Sitchen never responded.

All the tablets have been translated. They don't support the storyline developed by Sitchen, though SOME of what he wrote proved factual.

If anyone else listened to the interview on Red Ice Radio and knows who I'm talking about -- the interviewee whose name I can't remember-- please post. Thanks.

[back on topic]

I find this discussion thread very interesting.

[slipknotted]

the guy david seems to be not what he claims i heard he works for a movie company and that it was just screwing with peopls check out vonhelton channel has the lastest info.

[Teakai]

the guy david seems to be not what he claims i heard he works for a movie company and that it was just screwing with peopls check out vonhelton channel has the lastest info.

Hi Slipknot - a vicious rumour maybe?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LC_TbZ_yf7U&feature=related


I listened to the Belle who called into Alex Jones and George Noory - and I didn't hear her say anything about pole reversals or that she worked for the military. The links are up on this thread if you want to have a listen.

And here's David in his defence. Sounds to me as though this Belle person isn't the person he's referring to.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8E7_x-6Z5Jk

[Teakai]

Coincidence.
Today Alex Jones talked about pole shift.
http://archives2011.gcnlive.com/Archives2011/feb11/AlexJones/0207113.mp3

Starts at about the 3/4 mark.

If you don't want to have to wait for it to get there, you can go here:
http://www.gcnlive.com/programs/alexJones/archives.php
February 7th - hour 3

[passiglight]

I just spent 3 hours typing a reply to this thread that covered all the material above in great detail...

i lost it............

i now give up,, i feel completely deflated and will not be adding anything here again..

My apologies but i feel my input here was not meant to be

cosmic love

[passiglight]

Never say never again ,,,,,,,,,,lol,i've stopped crying now,,,,,,,,,,,,

Here is the link to that letter that woman from the alex jones show was trying to release.......

http://www.earth-issues.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/08-004c0021.pdf

I've downloaded a copy just in case the link is gone by the time you read this..........

And just in case your wandering what HAARP can do ........

well........ its about a substance called ...

Magnetite
( all material copied and pasted from wiki)

Crystals of magnetite have been found in some bacteria (e.g., Magnetospirillum magnetotacticum) and in the brains of bees, termites, fish, some birds (e.g., the pigeon) and humans.[7] These crystals are thought to be involved in magnetoreception, the ability to sense the polarity or the inclination of the Earth's magnetic field, and to be involved in navigation.

Did I just read that right !!!!!

Bees,,fish,,,birds…….

Coincidentally dying in large numbers………. no coincidence there...


and is connected with.......

Biomagnetism is the phenomenon of magnetic fields produced by living organisms; it is a subset of bioelectromagnetism. The study of the biological effects of magnetic fields is magnetobiology. (The word biomagnetism has also been used loosely to include magnetobiology, further encompassing almost any combination of the words magnetism and biology.)
The origin of the word biomagnetism is unclear, but seems to have appeared several hundred years ago, linked to the expression "animal magnetism." The present scientific definition took form in the 1970s, when an increasing number of researchers began to measure the magnetic fields produced by the human body. The first valid measurement was actually made in 1963,[1] but the field began to expand only after a low-noise technique was developed in 1970.[2] Today the community of biomagnetic researchers does not have a formal organization, but international conferences are held every two years, with about 600 attendees. Most conference activity centers around the MEG (magnetoencephalogram), the measurement of the magnetic field of the brain.

Transcranial magnetic stimulation


And is connected with............

Bioelectromagnetism (sometimes equated with bioelectricity) refers to the electrical, magnetic or electromagnetic fields produced by living cells, tissues or organisms. Examples include the cell membrane potential and the electric currents that flow in nerves and muscles, as a result of action potentials. 'Bioelectromagnetism' is somewhat similar to bioelectromagnetics, which deals with the effect on life from external electromagnetism; yet such an effect also falls under the definition of 'bioelectromagnetism'.[1]

Biological cells use bioelectricity to store metabolic energy, to do work or trigger internal changes, and to signal one another. Bioelectromagnetism is the electric current produced by action potentials along with the magnetic fields they generate through the phenomenon of electromagnetism.

Bioelectromagnetism is an aspect of all living things, including all plants and animals. Some animals have acute bioelectric sensors, and others, such as migratory birds, are believed to navigate in part by orienteering with respect to the Earth's magnetic field. Also, sharks are more sensitive to local interaction in electromagnetic fields than most humans. Other animals, such as the electric eel, are able to generate large electric fields outside their bodies.

All connected with..........

The operational ability of the matrix

Who is connected to the matrix ???

WE are..........

Once again do not rely on my ramblings check this stuff out for yourself,,,,,,,,,this is only my opinion and counts for nothing........YOU MUST CHECK THIS OUT FOR YOURSELF..



cosmic love

[passiglight]

SHARKS !!!

Did you see the footage on youtube of a mass of sharks gathered in huge numbers ?

This is my humble opinion.....please ignore......it

i cannot ignore the coincidences any longer,,,,,,,the mass animal deaths,, the sharks gathering,, the volcanoes,earthquakes,, the disturbances in the geomagnetic field...

IMO......This can only be put down to the effects HAARP is having on our enviroment

The really important question for me is .........what effect is this having on planet earth,us and the matrix and our ability to attain a higher state of being?

What are those bastards doing ?

cosmic peace

[slvrfx]

SHARKS !!!

Did you see the footage on youtube of a mass of sharks gathered in huge numbers ?

This is my humble opinion.....please ignore......it

i cannot ignore the coincidences any longer,,,,,,,the mass animal deaths,, the sharks gathering,, the volcanoes,earthquakes,, the disturbances in the geomagnetic field...

IMO......This can only be put down to the effects HAARP is having on our enviroment

The really important question for me is .........what effect is this having on planet earth,us and the matrix and our ability to attain a higher state of being?

What are those bastards doing ?

cosmic peace


I don't believe it's TPTB, but something Cosmic.

Scientifically, there's a 'wave' coming in from the center of the Milky Way galaxy, NASA has photo also of an anomaly- two huge 'bubbles' of gas have formed at the center of the galaxy also, these span 50,000 light years...

The other planets in our solar system are being effected by 'something', as our sun has, which effects us also, for years. Just one ie. the ice on Mars poles has mostly melted...

And an article on space.com last December on how something huge has entered our solar system. They don't know what it is, maybe an Ort cloud, or a red dwarf, or an incoming planet...

So, do we still want to think HAARP?

[passiglight]

SHARKS !!!

Did you see the footage on youtube of a mass of sharks gathered in huge numbers ?

This is my humble opinion.....please ignore......it

i cannot ignore the coincidences any longer,,,,,,,the mass animal deaths,, the sharks gathering,, the volcanoes,earthquakes,, the disturbances in the geomagnetic field...

IMO......This can only be put down to the effects HAARP is having on our enviroment

The really important question for me is .........what effect is this having on planet earth,us and the matrix and our ability to attain a higher state of being?

What are those bastards doing ?

cosmic peace


I don't believe it's TPTB, but something Cosmic.

Hi slvrfx please could you expand on your comment

[slvrfx]

I just did. My post #79. Thanks for asking.

[passiglight]

Perhaps you could tell me how this object could be affecting the geomagnetic fields i previously referred to especially with concern to animals ?

cosmic love

[passiglight]

SHARKS !!!

Did you see the footage on youtube of a mass of sharks gathered in huge numbers ?

This is my humble opinion.....please ignore......it

i cannot ignore the coincidences any longer,,,,,,,the mass animal deaths,, the sharks gathering,, the volcanoes,earthquakes,, the disturbances in the geomagnetic field...

IMO......This can only be put down to the effects HAARP is having on our enviroment

The really important question for me is .........what effect is this having on planet earth,us and the matrix and our ability to attain a higher state of being?

What are those bastards doing ?

cosmic peace


I don't believe it's TPTB, but something Cosmic.

Hi slvrfx please could you expand on your comment

As i understand it ,,, there is a black hole in the center of our galaxy which is what i am thinking you are referring to by the term "milky way" and yes i agree there seems to be a field of energy comming from that source and heading our way,,,,,,,i referred to this as the cosmic trigger in an early post to a charles thread,,,,

but its not here yet.....

i am thinking that you are referring to planet x as the ort cloud or red dwarf heading our way also, but also,, that is imo not near enough yet to be causing the effects i as referring to with regard to HAARP

[PandorasBox]

I can verify the Dept. of Homeland Security/FEMA exercise that is supposed to take place May 16-20, 2011. The purpose is specifically to ready the US for an earthquake at the New Madrid fault. This fault is a 25 ft crack straight down. Not sure the exact details on length. The last major series of earthquakes in that area caused parts of the Ohio River to flow backward and it created Reelfoot Lake in TN.

Although we are going through a lot of "naturally occurring" geological changes, I also know that we have a lot of technology that could cause these changes. I specifically am concerned about HAARP. I understand there are facilities all over the world. What would happen if all were activated at the same time. Remember the Philadelphia experiment?

[slvrfx]

Perhaps you could tell me how this object could be affecting the geomagnetic fields i previously referred to especially with concern to animals ?

cosmic love

I'm thinking like a intense ZAP of electro-magnetic energy.

Depending on where it strikes, either a grouping of birds in mid-flight, or roosting for the night, like the original red-winged blackbirds in Arkansas.

And striking certain bodies of water, much like a 'tool' fishermen had a few years ago, that could be put down into the water, and it shocked the fish, bringing them to the surface.

We know there's been some serious CMEs (coronal mass ejections), flying off the sun, even when there are no solar storms, as evidenced by the very frequent stream of energy evidenced by all of the auroras recently. (Check space.com for the most current news regarding this.)

[Teakai]

Oh yes, I saw that, Passiglight. Here's the video of it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R5BsNSTJdY4

[passiglight]

Perhaps you could tell me how this object could be affecting the geomagnetic fields i previously referred to especially with concern to animals ?

cosmic love

I'm thinking like a intense ZAP of electro-magnetic energy.

Depending on where it strikes, either a grouping of birds in mid-flight, or roosting for the night, like the original red-winged blackbirds in Arkansas.

And striking certain bodies of water, much like a 'tool' fishermen had a few years ago, that could be put down into the water, and it shocked the fish, bringing them to the surface.

We know there's been some serious CMEs (coronal mass ejections), flying off the sun, even when there are no solar storms, as evidenced by the very frequent stream of energy evidenced by all of the auroras recently. (Check space.com for the most current news regarding this.)

Oh right !!!

ahh yes of course the good old fashioned extra deadly electro-magnetic bird, fish and shark energy.zapper

and so of course they've used this instrument allready.

and,,wait for it,,,they've aimed it at not us,,,,,,,,,,,,,,but ,,,,,,,,the sun,,,,,,,,

What ?? did they miss the little bitty creatures swimming,flying and bobbing about on dear old planet earth..

My, my,,,, and there was i thinking that zapper was for us,,,,,,,,and prey may i enquire exactly where this em zapper might be ??

not in your pocket is it by any chance ?

cosmic love

[passiglight]

Maybe its just a cosmic water pistol that you are refering to slvrfx

Or perhaps you misunderstand the scientific aproach of my evaluation,,,,,,,,

well lets try this one then,,,,,,,,,,

The apparatus for HAARP is a reversal of a radio telescope;

Antenna send out signals instead of receiving.

HAARP is the test run for a super-powerful radiowave-beaming technology that lifts areas of the ionosphere by focusing a beam and heating those areas. Electromagnetic waves then bounce back onto earth and penetrate everything -- living and dead.

Now one might be entitled to inquire what sort of beam would the haarp be beaming up there.........

OH,,,,,,,,,,, it's beaming radio waves,,,,, not like Kerrang mind you,,,,

<does his best homer impersonation,,,,,,,,mmmmmmmm,,, radio waves mmmmm

Radio waves,,,,suits you sir,now what frequency would one prefer,,,,,now let me seee,,,,,,would sir prefer a nice low one ,say mmmmmmm,,,say ELF SIR ? 200 - 230 DB SIR,,, OOOO suits you sir,,,,,,,,now where exactly would you like those dead bees,, fish,,, birds,and extremly confused sharks and humans,, sir,,,,


yeah right
,peace out dude

[Fred259]

I can verify the Dept. of Homeland Security/FEMA exercise that is supposed to take place May 16-20, 2011. The purpose is specifically to ready the US for an earthquake at the New Madrid fault. This fault is a 25 ft crack straight down. Not sure the exact details on length. The last major series of earthquakes in that area caused parts of the Ohio River to flow backward and it created Reelfoot Lake in TN.

Although we are going through a lot of "naturally occurring" geological changes, I also know that we have a lot of technology that could cause these changes. I specifically am concerned about HAARP. I understand there are facilities all over the world. What would happen if all were activated at the same time. Remember the Philadelphia experiment?

Hello Pandora’s Box

Would it be possible to check your information source about this crack that’s “25 feet straight down” on the New Madrid fault.

I do feel if it were the case this would be on the international news wire and why would FEMA wait till May. Something is wrong here PB maybe you have been subjected to “Media Terrorism”, it’s maybe 2.5 inches or 2.5 feet. I think it would be good if you could do that.

Any possibility of posting up a pic.Thanks

[Fred259]

[
QUOTE=passiglight;129397]Maybe its just a cosmic water pistol that you are refering to slvrfx

Or perhaps you misunderstand the scientific aproach of my evaluation,,,,,,,,

well lets try this one then,,,,,,,,,,

The apparatus for HAARP is a reversal of a radio telescope;

Antenna send out signals instead of receiving.

HAARP is the test run for a super-powerful radiowave-beaming technology that lifts areas of the ionosphere by focusing a beam and heating those areas. Electromagnetic waves then bounce back onto earth and penetrate everything -- living and dead.

Now one might be entitled to inquire what sort of beam would the haarp be beaming up there.........

OH,,,,,,,,,,, it's beaming radio waves,,,,, not like Kerrang mind you,,,,

<does his best homer impersonation,,,,,,,,mmmmmmmm,,, radio waves mmmmm

Radio waves,,,,suits you sir,now what frequency would one prefer,,,,,now let me seee,,,,,,would sir prefer a nice low one ,say mmmmmmm,,,say ELF SIR ? 200 - 230 DB SIR,,, OOOO suits you sir,,,,,,,,now where exactly would you like those dead bees,, fish,,, birds,and extremly confused sharks and humans,, sir,,,,


yeah right
,peace out dude[/QUOTE] ELF 200 - 230 DB

Whats DB?

[MorningSong]

Hello new truth researchers!

I'm thrilled to see that someone is keeping the hearthfire over here while I step out to see what all the buzz is over in the "Ruler's" threads are.... (...sigh....no further comment).

I thought you all might like the links to the gov sites requesting contractors for fuel and food resouces..for the ??event??. Something is definately "up" and all is not clear exactly what. Let us be prepared!

https://www.fbo.gov/index?s=opportunity&mode=form&id=eaea338540a0aea155a48a650a077352&tab=core&_cview=0

https://www.fbo.gov/index?s=opportunity&mode=form&id=ed2fb661961ec48159a24635774679bc&tab=core&_cview=0

;)

[Fred259]

HSFEHQ-11-R-Meals Notice Type:
Cancellation Synopsis:
Added: Jan 20, 2011 11:54 am

Does anyone know the population in this area, I wonder how the reached the figure 7 million?



COPY

The Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA) procures and stores pre-packaged
commercial meals to support readiness capability for immediate distribution to disaster
survivors routinely.

The purpose of this Request for Information is to identify sources of
supply for meals in support of disaster relief efforts based on a catastrophic disaster event within the New Madrid Fault System for a survivor population of 7M to be utilized for the
sustainment of life during a 10-day period of operations.

FEMA is considering the following specifications (14M meals per day):

- Serving Size - 12 ounce (entree not to exceed 480 calorie count);
- Maximum calories - 1200 and/or 1165 per meal;
- Protein parameters - 29g-37g kit;
- Trans Fat - 0;
- Saturated Fat - 13 grams (9 calories per gram);
- Total Fat - 47 grams (less than 10% calories);
- Maximum sodium - 800-930 mg;

[passiglight]

Oh by the way look who just bought the weather,,,,,,,,,,,

EL Rothschild, a private investment company, has agreed to acquire a 70% interest in Weather Central, a provider of interactive weather graphics and data services for television, web, and mobile.

EL Rothschild said that Weather Central will continue to operate under CEO and founder, Terry Kelly, as well as current management.

Financial terms of the acquisition were not disclosed.

Founded in 1974, Weather Central is a global provider of professional on-air, online, print, mobile, and enterprise weather solutions and forecasting.

With 180 employees, including 70 meteorologists, Weather Central provides dynamic weather graphic systems, and proprietary forecast models.

Weather Central has more than 400 broadcast television clients in 21 countries worldwide.

EL Rothschild CEO Lynn Forester de Rothschild said at EL Rothschild, they will use their resources, business experience, and industry insights to build upon Weather Central's current success, and to develop the company's escalating international profile in markets like Latin America and India.

http://privateequity.banking-business-review.com/news/el-rothschild-acquires-70-interest-in-weather-central-010211



As usual with what i am saying here,, YOU HAVE TO VERIFY THIS MATERIAL YOURSELF

Do not take this text as anything other than an opinion.....

Do not be scared,,,,,, to be informed is better than being ignorant........

Could the HAARP Project be for Mind Control?
By Nicholas Jones
nicholasjones99@yahoo.com

Earth is wrapped in a donut shaped magnetic field. Circular lines of flux continuously descend into the North Pole and emerge from the South Pole. The ionosphere, an electromagnetic-wave conductor, 100 kms above the earth, consists of a layer of electrically charged particles acting as a shield from solar winds. Natural waves are related to the electrical activity in the atmosphere and are thought to be caused by multiple lightning storms. Collectively, these waves are called ‘The Schumann Resonance’, the current strongest at 7.8 Hz. These are quasi-standing extremely low frequency (ELF) waves that naturally exist in the earth’s ‘electromagnetic’ cavity, the space between the ground and the ionosphere. These ‘earth brainwaves’ are identical to the spectrum of our brainwaves.

(1 hertz = 1 cycle per second, 1 Khz = 1000, 1 Mhz =1 million. A 1
Hertz wave is 186,000 miles long, 10 Hz is 18,600 miles. Radio-waves
move at the speed of light.)

The Creator designed living beings to resonate to this natural frequency pulsation in order to evolve harmoniously. The ionosphere is being manipulated by US govt. scientists using an Alaskan transmitter called HAARP, (High-Frequency Active Auroral Research Program) which sends focused radiated power to heat up sections of the ionosphere, which bounces power down again. ELF waves from HAARP when targeted on areas can weather-engineer and create mood changes affecting millions. The intended wattage is 1,700 billion watts of power. A former govt. insider deduced they want to flip the world upside down. 64 elements in the ground modulate, with variation, the geomagnetic waves naturally coming from the ground.

The ‘earth’s natural brain rhythm’ above is balanced with these. These are the same minerals as the red blood corpuscles. There is a relation between the blood and geomagnetic waves. An imbalance between Schumann and geomagnetic waves disrupts biorhythms. These natural geomagnetic waves are being replaced by artificially created very low frequency (VLF) ground waves coming from GWEN Towers.

GWEN (Ground Wave Emergency Network) transmitters placed 200 miles apart across the USA allow specific frequencies to be tailored to the geomagnetic-field strength in each area, allowing the magnetic field to be altered. They operate in the VLF range, with transmissions between VLF 150 and 175 KHz. They also emit UHF waves of 225 - 400 MHz. The VLF signals travel by waves that hug the ground rather than radiating into the atmosphere. A GWEN station transmits circularly up to 300 miles, the signal dropping off sharply with distance. The entire GWEN system consists of, (depending on source of data), from 58 to an intended 300 transmitters spread across the USA, each with a tower 299-500 ft high. 300 ft copper wires in spoke like fashion fan out from the base of the system underground, interacting with the earth like a thin shelled conductor, radiating radio wave energy for very long distances through the ground.

USA bathes in this magnetic field which rises to 500 ft, even going down to basements, so everyone is mind-controlled. The whole artificial ground-wave spreads out over USA like a web. It is easier to mind-control and hypnotize people who are bathed in an artificial electromagnetic-wave. (Covering the entire floor with aluminum and buying a CET cylinder from Nordic Living Water Systems helps.) GWEN transmitters have many different functions including controlling the weather, mind, behavior and mood control.

These work in conjunction with HAARP and the Russian Woodpecker transmitter, similar to HAARP. The Russians openly market a small version of their weather-engineering system called Elate, which can fine-tune weather patterns over a 200 mile area and have the same range as the GWEN unit. One operates at Moscow airport. The GWEN Towers shoot enormous bursts of energy into the atmosphere in conjuction with HAARP. The website www.cuttingedge.org wrote an expose of how the major floods of the Mid-West USA occurred in 1993.

Invisible enormous rivers of water, consisting of vapors that flow, move towards the poles in the lower atmosphere. They rival the flow of the Amazon River and are 420 to 480 miles wide and up to 4,800 miles long. They are 1.9 miles above the earth and have volumes of 340 lbs of water per second. There are 5 atmospheric rivers in each Hemisphere. A massive flood can be created by damming up one of these massive vapor rivers, causing huge amounts of rainfall to be dumped.

The GWEN Towers positioned along the areas north of the Missouri and Mississippi Rivers were turned on for 40 days and 40 nights, probably mocking the Flood of Genesis. (This was in conjunction with HAARP, that creates a river of electricity flowing thousands of miles through the sky and down to the polar ice-cap, manipulating the jet-stream , like The Woodpecker.) These rivers flooded, causing agricultural losses of $12-15 billion. HAARP produces earthquakes by focusing on the fault lines. GWEN Towers are on the fault lines and volcanic areas of the Pacific Northeast.

In 1963 Dr Robert Becker explored effects of external magnetic-fields on brainwaves showing a relationship between psychiatric admissions and solar magnetic storms. He exposed volunteers to pulsed magnetic-fields similar to magnetic-storms, and found a similar response. US 60 Hz electric power ELF waves vibrate at the same frequency as the human brain. UK 50 Hz electricity emissions depress the thyroid.

Dr Andrija Puharich in the 50’s/60’s, found clairvoyant’s brainwaves became 8 Hz when their powers were operative. He saw an Indian Yogi in 1956 controlling his brainwaves, deliberately shifting his consciousness from one level to another. Puharich trained people with bio-feedback to do this consciously, making 8 Hz waves. A healer made 8 Hz waves pass into a patient, healing their heart trouble, her brain emitting 8 Hz . One person emitting a certain frequency can make another also resonate to the same frequency.

Our brains are extremely vulnerable to any technology which sends out ELF waves, because they immediately start resonating to the outside signal by a kind of tuning-fork effect. Puharich experimented discovering 7.83 Hz (earth’s pulse rate) made a person ‘feel good’ producing an altered-state. 10.80 Hz causes riotious behaviour and 6.6 Hz causes depression. Puharich made ELF waves change RNA and DNA, breaking hydrogen bonds to make a person have a higher vibratory rate. He wanted to go beyond the psychic 8 Hz brainwave and attract psi phenomena. James Hurtak, who once worked for Puharich, also wrote in his book The Keys of Enoch that ultra-violet caused hydrogen bonds to break and this raised the vibratory rate.

Puharich presented the mental effects of ELF waves to military leaders but they would not believe him. He gave this information to certain dignitaries of other Western nations. The US govt burned down his home in New York to shut him up and he fled to Mexico. However Russians discovered which ELF frequencies did what to the human brain and began zapping the US Embassy in Moscow on 4 July 1976 with electromagnetic-waves, varying the signal, including focusing on 10 Hz. (10 Hz puts people into a hypnotic state, Russians and North Koreans use this in portable mind-control machines to extract confessions.Found also in an American church to help the congregation believe!) This Russian “Woodpecker” signal was traveling across the world from a transmitter near Kiev. The US Air Force identified 5 different frequencies in this compound harmonic Woodpecker was sending through the earth and atmosphere. Nikola Tesla revealed in 1901 power could be transmitted through the ground using ELF waves. Nothing stops or weakens these signals. The Russians retrieved Tesla’s papers when they were returned to Yugoslavia after his death.


Here is the link.......

http://earthchangesmedia.com/breaking/March_Part2_2001/0320haarp.htm

Here the same thing........

http://www.haarp.net/ be warned i cannot verify this site...





One more note to this paradigm,,,,,,,,

The press have been saying hilary clinton has called a meeting of loads of foreign ambassadors, and it wouldn't surprise me in the slightest if the talk goes something like this..........

"Hi guys,, just wanna say we're gonna use haarp to activate the new madrid faultline,but hey don't worry,, fema will be there and save everyone,, and at the same time we can use this calamity to crash the dollar" etc etc,,

"And hey while we're at it if we're real lucky we also get the spin off of dumbing down all the residents of planet earth and dashing their dastardly plan to raise their consiosness'ss"

Once again what i say here is uneducated drivel and should totally disregarded,,,,,,,do not take this as fact,,,,do your on research and check for yourselves please,,,



Cosmic love

[passiglight]

(dB), a logarithmic unit of measurement in acoustics and electronics


Oh did i forget the whales back there,,,drat,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

So that's BEES,, FISH,,,, BIRDS,,,WHALES,,,DEAD,,,,,,SHARKS AND HUMANS,,, Dizzy AND Confused,,,,,,,Now where have i heard that before..hmmm

And heading slightly off topic,, lets also not forget those poor reptillians that got left behind to live in nasty places like Dulce after their mates buggered off and left them to look after the burrows till their m8's return,,,,,and what drove them underground in the first place,,,,,,,bbrrr its chilly up there repi's must be cold blooded ????

Probably another HAARP set up

[Teakai]

I can verify the Dept. of Homeland Security/FEMA exercise that is supposed to take place May 16-20, 2011. The purpose is specifically to ready the US for an earthquake at the New Madrid fault. This fault is a 25 ft crack straight down. Not sure the exact details on length. The last major series of earthquakes in that area caused parts of the Ohio River to flow backward and it created Reelfoot Lake in TN.

Although we are going through a lot of "naturally occurring" geological changes, I also know that we have a lot of technology that could cause these changes. I specifically am concerned about HAARP. I understand there are facilities all over the world. What would happen if all were activated at the same time. Remember the Philadelphia experiment?

Hello Pandora’s Box

Would it be possible to check your information source about this crack that’s “25 feet straight down” on the New Madrid fault.

I do feel if it were the case this would be on the international news wire and why would FEMA wait till May. Something is wrong here PB maybe you have been subjected to “Media Terrorism”, it’s maybe 2.5 inches or 2.5 feet. I think it would be good if you could do that.

Any possibility of posting up a pic.Thanks

Hi Fred, here's the link to the sign up page to participate in the practice run.
http://www.shakeout.org/centralus/

and from fema:
http://www.shakeout.org/downloads/nle_factsheet.pdf

Hmmm, I dunno. The London bombings and 911 happened during some kind of practise drill. I don't think I'd sign up for this one.

And this is about the New Madrid fault line:
http://www.new-madrid.mo.us/index.aspx?NID=102

And, for those who prefer to watch:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=muyu4aucZDM

[Teakai]

(dB), a logarithmic unit of measurement in acoustics and electronics


Oh did i forget the whales back there,,,drat,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

So that's BEES,, FISH,,,, BIRDS,,,WHALES,,,DEAD,,,,,,SHARKS AND HUMANS,,, Dizzy AND Confused,,,,,,,Now where have i heard that before..hmmm

And heading slightly off topic,, lets also not forget those poor reptillians that got left behind to live in nasty places like Dulce after their mates buggered off and left them to look after the burrows till their m8's return,,,,,and what drove them underground in the first place,,,,,,,bbrrr its chilly up there repi's must be cold blooded ????

Probably another HAARP set up

And don't forget the hundreds of thousands of Buffalo and cattle in Vietnam.

[Fred259]

4404

#93.
Could the HAARP Project be for Mind Control?


Globally by ELF / VLF


That is what this aircraft is for transmitting VLF from those aerial that are coming out of the canisters, so yes I believe it could be used for Mind control.

The mind control element of the PTB plan may have a lot to do with the reason for the TV switch to digital. In so doing they are now able to use the MF band from TV mast transmitters for Silent Sound Spread Spectrum (SSSS)


Locally via UHF / SHF


Most defiantly.


GWEN (Ground Wave Emergency Network) transmitters placed 200 miles apart across the USA allow specific frequencies to be tailored to the geomagnetic-field strength in each area, allowing the magnetic field to be altered. They operate in the VLF range, with transmissions between VLF 150 and 175 KHz. They also emit UHF waves of 225 - 400 MHz.


Conclusion.


The report IMHO is most valid. These GWEN Towers can be used for mind control modulated onto the carrier TV signal.

The aircraft could also be used either for mind control or HAARP*


• HAARP*. If they are transmitting radio waves against the Ionospheres Yes this aircraft could be used.
• If they are transmitting AN Others then I don’t know.

[passiglight]

(dB), a logarithmic unit of measurement in acoustics and electronics


Oh did i forget the whales back there,,,drat,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

So that's BEES,, FISH,,,, BIRDS,,,WHALES,,,DEAD,,,,,,SHARKS AND HUMANS,,, Dizzy AND Confused,,,,,,,Now where have i heard that before..hmmm

And heading slightly off topic,, lets also not forget those poor reptillians that got left behind to live in nasty places like Dulce after their mates buggered off and left them to look after the burrows till their m8's return,,,,,and what drove them underground in the first place,,,,,,,bbrrr its chilly up there repi's must be cold blooded ????

Probably another HAARP set up

And don't forget the hundreds of thousands of Buffalo and cattle in Vietnam.

LOL Teakai,, you read me like a book,,,,,,

I was intending to include those poor animals in my list but i haven't seen anything mentioned with regard to cattle specifically,,,,,However i come back to the magnetite on this one,,, and i can only assume that cattle must share that dis-oriented feeling as well,,

I notice that there is a distinction between animals that rely on the geomagnetictic field for navigation and those that operate at a different frequency,,,,,the bees fish and birds would all have died from shock trauma i assume after becoming disoriented, and, i would guess that was unintentional. I would also guess the cattle thing happened as a result of the HAARP fields being more directed intentionally.

cosmic love

[Mandala]

Project Camelot interviewed Patrick Geryl, who is a believer in pole reversal. Here s the Camelot Interview. Draw your own conclusions!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cd-cCeaKrOA

Here is an exerpt from an article on
http://survive2012.com/index.php/geryl-pole-shift.html

Pole Shift & Pole Reversal in 2012
In 2012 the next polar reversal will take place on earth. This means that the North Pole will be changed into the South Pole. Scientifically this can only be explained by the fact that the earth will start rotating in the opposite direction, together with a huge disaster of unknown proportions.

I didn't post very much because he has some gigantic, cataclysmic ideas. (He's a scarry dude)

If you watch Patrick G.'s, you should also see Dr. Paul LaViolette's interview. This one is about the superwave theory.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oURVtGKW420&feature=channel

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Let's try Dr. Paul's one more time!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oURVtGKW420&feature=channel

[Fred259]

]This is a Serious Report and does show the dangers facing mankind.

Could the HAARP Project be for Mind Control?By Nicholas Jonesnicholasjones99@yahoo.com

Earth is wrapped in a donut shaped magnetic field. Circular lines of flux continuously descend into the North Pole and emerge from the South Pole. The ionosphere, an electromagnetic-wave conductor, 100 kms above the earth, consists of a layer of electrically charged particles acting as a shield from solar winds. Natural waves are related to the electrical activity in the atmosphere and are thought to be caused by multiple lightning storms. Collectively, these waves are called ‘The Schumann Resonance’, the current strongest at 7.8 Hz. These are quasi-standing extremely low frequency (ELF) waves that naturally exist in the earth’s ‘electromagnetic’ cavity, the space between the ground and the ionosphere. These ‘earth brainwaves’ are identical to the spectrum of our brainwaves.

(1 hertz = 1 cycle per second, 1 Khz = 1000, 1 Mhz =1 million. A 1
Hertz wave is 186,000 miles long, 10 Hz is 18,600 miles. Radio-waves
move at the speed of light.)





4409





The Creator designed living beings to resonate to this natural frequency pulsation in order to evolve harmoniously. The ionosphere is being manipulated by US govt. scientists using an Alaskan transmitter called HAARP, (High-Frequency Active Auroral Research Program) which sends focused radiated power to heat up sections of the ionosphere, which bounces power down again. ELF waves from HAARP when targeted on areas can weather-engineer and create mood changes affecting millions. The intended wattage is 1,700 billion watts of power. A former govt. insider deduced they want to flip the world upside down. 64 elements in the ground modulate, with variation, the geomagnetic waves naturally coming from the ground.

The ‘earth’s natural brain rhythm’ above is balanced with these. These are the same minerals as the red blood corpuscles. There is a relation between the blood and geomagnetic waves. An imbalance between Schumann and geomagnetic waves disrupts biorhythms. These natural geomagnetic waves are being replaced by artificially created very low frequency (VLF) ground waves coming from GWEN Towers.

GWEN (Ground Wave Emergency Network) transmitters placed 200 miles apart across the USA allow specific frequencies to be tailored to the geomagnetic-field strength in each area, allowing the magnetic field to be altered. They operate in the VLF range, with transmissions between VLF 150 and 175 KHz. They also emit UHF waves of 225 - 400 MHz. The VLF signals travel by waves that hug the ground rather than radiating into the atmosphere. A GWEN station transmits circularly up to 300 miles, the signal dropping off sharply with distance. The entire GWEN system consists of, (depending on source of data), from 58 to an intended 300 transmitters spread across the USA, each with a tower 299-500 ft high. 300 ft copper wires in spoke like fashion fan out from the base of the system underground, interacting with the earth like a thin shelled conductor, radiating radio wave energy for very long distances through the ground.


USA bathes in this magnetic field which rises to 500 ft, even going down to basements, so everyone is mind-controlled. The whole artificial ground-wave spreads out over USA like a web. It is easier to mind-control and hypnotize people who are bathed in an artificial electromagnetic-wave. (Covering the entire floor with aluminum and buying a CET cylinder from Nordic Living Water Systems helps.) GWEN transmitters have many different functions including controlling the weather, mind, behavior and mood control.

These work in conjunction with HAARP and the Russian Woodpecker transmitter, similar to HAARP. The Russians openly market a small version of their weather-engineering system called Elate, which can fine-tune weather patterns over a 200 mile area and have the same range as the GWEN unit. One operates at Moscow airport. The GWEN Towers shoot enormous bursts of energy into the atmosphere in conjuction with HAARP. The website www.cuttingedge.org wrote an expose of how the major floods of the Mid-West USA occurred in 1993.

Invisible enormous rivers of water, consisting of vapors that flow, move towards the poles in the lower atmosphere. They rival the flow of the Amazon River and are 420 to 480 miles wide and up to 4,800 miles long. They are 1.9 miles above the earth and have volumes of 340 lbs of water per second. There are 5 atmospheric rivers in each Hemisphere. A massive flood can be created by damming up one of these massive vapor rivers, causing huge amounts of rainfall to be dumped.

The GWEN Towers positioned along the areas north of the Missouri and Mississippi Rivers were turned on for 40 days and 40 nights, probably mocking the Flood of Genesis. (This was in conjunction with HAARP, that creates a river of electricity flowing thousands of miles through the sky and down to the polar ice-cap, manipulating the jet-stream , like The Woodpecker.) These rivers flooded, causing agricultural losses of $12-15 billion. HAARP produces earthquakes by focusing on the fault lines. GWEN Towers are on the fault lines and volcanic areas of the Pacific Northeast.In 1963 Dr Robert Becker explored effects of external magnetic-fields on brainwaves showing a relationship between psychiatric admissions and solar magnetic storms. He exposed volunteers to pulsed magnetic-fields similar to magnetic-storms, and found a similar response. US 60 Hz electric power ELF waves vibrate at the same frequency as the human brain. UK 50 Hz electricity emissions depress the thyroid.

Dr Andrija Puharich in the 50’s/60’s, found clairvoyant’s brainwaves became 8 Hz when their powers were operative. He saw an Indian Yogi in 1956 controlling his brainwaves, deliberately shifting his consciousness from one level to another. Puharich trained people with bio-feedback to do this consciously, making 8 Hz waves. A healer made 8 Hz waves pass into a patient, healing their heart trouble, her brain emitting 8 Hz . One person emitting a certain frequency can make another also resonate to the same frequency.

Our brains are extremely vulnerable to any technology which sends out ELF waves, because they immediately start resonating to the outside signal by a kind of tuning-fork effect. Puharich experimented discovering 7.83 Hz (earth’s pulse rate) made a person ‘feel good’ producing an altered-state. 10.80 Hz causes riotious behaviour and 6.6 Hz causes depression. Puharich made ELF waves change RNA and DNA, breaking hydrogen bonds to make a person have a higher vibratory rate. He wanted to go beyond the psychic 8 Hz brainwave and attract psi phenomena. James Hurtak, who once worked for Puharich, also wrote in his book The Keys of Enoch that ultra-violet caused hydrogen bonds to break and this raised the vibratory rate.



Puharich presented the mental effects of ELF waves to military leaders but they would not believe him. He gave this information to certain dignitaries of other Western nations. The US govt burned down his home in New York to shut him up and he fled to Mexico. However Russians discovered which ELF frequencies did what to the human brain and began zapping the US Embassy in Moscow
on 4 July 1976 with electromagnetic-waves, varying the signal, including focusing on 10 Hz. (10 Hz puts people into a hypnotic state, Russians and North Koreans use this in portable mind-control machines to extract confessions.Found also in an American church to help the congregation believe!) This Russian “Woodpecker” signal was traveling across the world from a transmitter near Kiev. The US Air Force identified 5 different frequencies in this compound harmonic Woodpecker was sending through the earth and atmosphere. Nikola Tesla revealed in 1901 power could be transmitted through the ground using ELF waves. Nothing stops or weakens these signals. The Russians retrieved Tesla’s papers when they were returned to Yugoslavia after his death.


NB I think that aircraft in Post 97 could perhaps do most of this.BAST****

http://earthchangesmedia.com/breakin.../0320haarp.htm

Here the same thing........

http://www.haarp.net/ be warned i cannot verify this site...

[Teakai]

(dB), a logarithmic unit of measurement in acoustics and electronics


Oh did i forget the whales back there,,,drat,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

So that's BEES,, FISH,,,, BIRDS,,,WHALES,,,DEAD,,,,,,SHARKS AND HUMANS,,, Dizzy AND Confused,,,,,,,Now where have i heard that before..hmmm

And heading slightly off topic,, lets also not forget those poor reptillians that got left behind to live in nasty places like Dulce after their mates buggered off and left them to look after the burrows till their m8's return,,,,,and what drove them underground in the first place,,,,,,,bbrrr its chilly up there repi's must be cold blooded ????

Probably another HAARP set up

And don't forget the hundreds of thousands of Buffalo and cattle in Vietnam.

LOL Teakai,, you read me like a book,,,,,,

I was intending to include those poor animals in my list but i haven't seen anything mentioned with regard to cattle specifically,,,,,However i come back to the magnetite on this one,,, and i can only assume that cattle must share that dis-oriented feeling as well,,

I notice that there is a distinction between animals that rely on the geomagnetictic field for navigation and those that operate at a different frequency,,,,,the bees fish and birds would all have died from shock trauma i assume after becoming disoriented, and, i would guess that was unintentional. I would also guess the cattle thing happened as a result of the HAARP fields being more directed intentionally.

cosmic love

This one is from 22 January - it's a new lot on top of the first lot.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xemN2VmLa8M

I don't know how it works - but perhaps the HAARP fields are having a big impact on the brain and that's what's killing off the animals.

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4404

omg Teaks..

:lol:

I don't get it.
Is it a plane in distress and you're having a go at me? I suspect you are, you devil. :)

[Teakai]

No that report is accurate. That’s exactly what its for.

What is this in response to, Fred?

[passiglight]

No that report is accurate. That’s exactly what its for.

What is this in response to, Fred?

"I don't know how it works - but perhaps the HAARP fields are having a big impact on the brain and that's what's killing off the animals."



Its affecting the matrix Teakai,,,,,,its what were all hooked up to,,, and its just another dastardly application for HAARP,,,

It (HAARP) interacts with the magnetite in our brains,,,,,and everything,,,,,,,,

It's capabale of killing (the matrix) the life force,it nourishes us

HAARP manipulates the magnetic biorhythms in us all

Its the application they have been guarding the most.

Not only is it just about the most lethal weapon they have, and probably one of the counter measurements to charles's key thing.

Its the catalyst for their main goal to achieve chaos on poor defenseless mother earth..

and.....

If the bastards activate that when the cosmic trigger is sent to activate our DNA then i imagine the worst

cosmic love

[Teakai]

No that report is accurate. That’s exactly what its for.

What is this in response to, Fred?

I don't know how it works - but perhaps the HAARP fields are having a big impact on the brain and that's what's killing off the animals.




Its affecting the matrix Teakai,,,,,,its what were all hooked up to,,, and its just another dastardly application for HAARP,,,

It interacts with the magnetite in our brains,,,,,and everything,,,,,,,,

It's the life force,it nourishes us

HAARP manipulates the magnetic biorhythms in us all

Its the application they have been guarding the most.

Not only is it just about the most lethal weapon they have, and probably one of the counter measurements to charles's key thing.

Its the catalyst for their main goal to achieve chaos on poor defenseless mother earth..

and.....

If the bastards activate that when the cosmic trigger is sent to activate our DNA then i imagine the worst

cosmic love

Hi Passiglight - I got the idea that the matrix was a bad thing. I guess I'm going from David Icke and the matrix movie - I don't think I've heard of the matrix outside those. And what it was, was a frequency that we are living in which affects our perceptions.

I'm just wondering where you got the idea that the matrix was the life force that nourished us?

[passiglight]

Yes Teakai it affects the brain directly......and deliberatly......



Earth is wrapped in a donut shaped magnetic field. Circular lines of flux continuously descend into the North Pole and emerge from the South Pole. The ionosphere, an electromagnetic-wave conductor, 100 kms above the earth, consists of a layer of electrically charged particles acting as a shield from solar winds. Natural waves are related to the electrical activity in the atmosphere and are thought to be caused by multiple lightning storms. Collectively, these waves are called ‘The Schumann Resonance’, the current strongest at 7.8 Hz. These are quasi-standing extremely low frequency (ELF) waves that naturally exist in the earth’s ‘electromagnetic’ cavity, the space between the ground and the ionosphere. These ‘earth brainwaves’ are identical to the spectrum of our brainwaves.

(1 hertz = 1 cycle per second, 1 Khz = 1000, 1 Mhz =1 million. A 1
Hertz wave is 186,000 miles long, 10 Hz is 18,600 miles. Radio-waves
move at the speed of light.)

The Creator designed living beings to resonate to this natural frequency pulsation in order to evolve harmoniously. The ionosphere is being manipulated by US govt. scientists using an Alaskan transmitter called HAARP, (High-Frequency Active Auroral Research Program) which sends focused radiated power to heat up sections of the ionosphere, which bounces power down again. ELF waves from HAARP when targeted on areas can weather-engineer and create mood changes affecting millions. The intended wattage is 1,700 billion watts of power. A former govt. insider deduced they want to flip the world upside down. 64 elements in the ground modulate, with variation, the geomagnetic waves naturally coming from the ground.

¤=[Post Update]=¤



No that report is accurate. That’s exactly what its for.

What is this in response to, Fred?

i think i know exactly what freds response was to and for,,,,,,, right fred ???

[TigaHawk]

Something i've been sitting on for a little bit.


They've been spraying chemtrails since what... 70's? maybe before? And we know this is a global joint effort. It's not JUST the US or JUST England etc that's spraying, it's everywhere.



What's the stuff they're spraynig meant to do? Reflect the sun's ray's and radiation, and heat. It would also help reflect CME's.



No country builds a weapon in a joint effort with other countries. Not once, ever, has any country openly sat down with other countries in an effort to make a weapon.

However, countries do come together all the time in times of Tragedy or destruction, because at this time their goals are mutual.



What if they opend the Hall of Records long ago - and read up that we're due for an extinction level event, as the Myan's prophecized 2012. But it would not mean everything is entirely wiped out - juuuuuuuuust 99% of everything. the 1% survives, and continues on. I am sure the earth has done this many times in the past. And i believe it's going to do it again. And if it is going to do it again - and mankind found out about this they would have looked into doing what they've been doing with nature since god nkows when. Try to controll it.

All the stuff in between is to keep people confuzed and on the wrong track, So the "people that matter" can have bunkers and all sorts of weird and wonderfull things done in attempts of protecting them in such event - while the general populace is considdered a worthey sacrifice if "the people that matter" can survive.

[Teakai]

Yes Teakai it affects the brain directly......and deliberatly......

Earth is wrapped in a donut shaped magnetic field. Circular lines of flux continuously descend into the North Pole and emerge from the South Pole. The ionosphere, an electromagnetic-wave conductor, 100 kms above the earth, consists of a layer of electrically charged particles acting as a shield from solar winds. Natural waves are related to the electrical activity in the atmosphere and are thought to be caused by multiple lightning storms. Collectively, these waves are called ‘The Schumann Resonance’, the current strongest at 7.8 Hz. These are quasi-standing extremely low frequency (ELF) waves that naturally exist in the earth’s ‘electromagnetic’ cavity, the space between the ground and the ionosphere. These ‘earth brainwaves’ are identical to the spectrum of our brainwaves.

(1 hertz = 1 cycle per second, 1 Khz = 1000, 1 Mhz =1 million. A 1
Hertz wave is 186,000 miles long, 10 Hz is 18,600 miles. Radio-waves
move at the speed of light.)

The Creator designed living beings to resonate to this natural frequency pulsation in order to evolve harmoniously. The ionosphere is being manipulated by US govt. scientists using an Alaskan transmitter called HAARP, (High-Frequency Active Auroral Research Program) which sends focused radiated power to heat up sections of the ionosphere, which bounces power down again. ELF waves from HAARP when targeted on areas can weather-engineer and create mood changes affecting millions. The intended wattage is 1,700 billion watts of power. A former govt. insider deduced they want to flip the world upside down. 64 elements in the ground modulate, with variation, the geomagnetic waves naturally coming from the ground

Hi Passiglight – they way I have it is that there are at least 2 different things at work here in regard to what we’re calling the matrix.

The way I see it, is that the magnetic field is a perfectly naturally occurring event which we all live within. Is this what you mean by the matrix?

The matrix, that I refer to is different to this. What I see the matrix as, is electromagnetic frequencies which are sent toward earth (from the moon – David Icke) which affects our own personal frequency.

What I think may be happening is that the changes to the magnetic field are going to alter what the moon is throwing at us and make it ineffective. When this happens, the veil will be lifted and we will see what really is, rather than what we have been programmed to see.

I don’t think HAARP is constantly controlling our mind processes and keeping us limited to a particular frequency range. It’s more of a one blast at a time sort of thing.

It seems, looking back through whatever they have of recorded history and what they can take from rock samples is that a pole reversal occurs naturally every so often – so, I don’t know if HAARP could do it - that's some amazing, amazing amount of energy.

This may all be some cyclical repeating existence and HAARP existed at the time of the last pole shift as well. Maybe that's the cycle of the spiritual evolutionary classroom.
From Kindy (right after the previous pole shift - where the earth is young, the magnetic field is light and men can fly without planes (I got that last part about men flying from some Hindu scripture) and then we go forward through time where the magnetic field once again becomes denser, the moon frequency is able to have an effect, the bad guys get their foothold and then we find ourselves again at spiritual graduation time, where the magnetic field once again diminishes, humanity evolves and another pole shift occurs.
Sort of like the Yuga cycles.

[Fred259]

[QUOTE=passiglight;129759]Yes Teakai it affects the brain directly......and deliberatly......

I[QUOTE] don’t think HAARP is constantly controlling our mind processes and keeping us limited to a particular frequency range. It’s more of a one blast at a time sort of thing.


This is a Serious Report and does show the dangers facing mankind.

[Fred259]

4413




Over Australia oh Look NSW !
We still love you Teaks!






4414

Crimes against Humanity.


Seriously folks, these criminals need to be herded up sent to the International Court in the Hague Netherlands.

[Teakai]

The reason I don't think it's HAARP that's controlling our perception is only because HAARP is reasonably new and we have been living in a state of delusion in regard to reality a lot longer than it has been around.

So - maybe HAARP is also used to control our brainwaves within the altered frequency in which we already exist.

I wonder - if we raise our own frequency above the frequencies being used to do this - if they wouldn't be able to affect us.

[Mandala]

Also looking at the etromagnetic field , this NASA video about the breach in the magnetosphere may provide interesting information to aid in our discussion. Dated "2009"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nVqWH5Qlg8Y&feature=related

[Fred259]

This Mind Control method can be transmitted by GWEN TOWERS via VLF or UHF


Silent Sound Spread Spectrum (SSSS) & the All-Digital TV Broadcast Signal:

Ever since first hearing of it last spring, I’ve had a deepening sense of foreboding – an unnamed dread of the upcoming shift to an all-digital television broadcast signal, scheduled to occur in February 2009. Now, I believe, that nameless dread may have a name, after all.The Department of Defense calls it Silent Sound Spread Spectrum (SSSS), and it also goes by the name of S-quad or Squad. In the private sector, the technology goes by the name of Silent Subliminal Presentation System and the technology has also been released to certain corporate vendors who have attached catchy brand names like BrainSpeak Silent Subliminals to their own SSSS-based products.
Whatever you call it, SSSS is a technology that uses subliminal programming that is carried over Ultra-High Frequency (UHF) broadcast waves, planting inaudible messages directly into the subconscious human mind.


Perfected more than twenty years ago by the Department of Defense and battlefield-tested upon unwitting Iraqi soldiers serving in the army of Saddam Hussein in the Gulf War during 1991, SSSS is a sinister weapon that may have been been developed for a specific mission: the total subjugation of the American people.


Whether SSSS is coupled with the new all-digital TV signal as its means of delivery into the minds of an unsuspecting U.S. populace or not, it can be deployed by many different devices, including HAARP and GWEN towers, which would effectively blanket the entire nation at once. In fact, Judy Wall says that “there is evidence that the US Government has plans to extend the range of this technology to envelop all peoples, all countries. This can be accomplished, is being accomplished, by utilising the nearly completed HAARP project for overseas areas and the GWEN network now in place in the US. The US Government denies all this.”

But the most insidious aspect of SSSS is that it is completely undetectable by those being targeted. Because it delivers its subliminal programming directly to the human brain via the auditory sense at frequencies that humans are incapable of perceiving as sound, there is no defense against it. Everyone on the planet is equally susceptible to mind control via SSSS and there isn’t any escape from it, as the UHF waves can be transmitted over very long distances from remotely located sources and will pass through walls and other objects as if they are not there. UHF is the frequency (100mhz) that has been used for television and radio broadcasting for as long as these media have existed. SSSS is designed to utilize UHF as a carrier wave.


Even more insidious, though, is the fact that, coupled with the use of supercomputers, an individual’s unique electroencephalographic (EEG) patterns can be digitally altered and then stored for rebroadcast via digital UHF. According to Judy Wall, editor and publisher of Resonance, the newsletter of the Bioelectromagnetics Special Interest Group, these computer-enhanced EEGs “can identify and isolate the brain’s low-amplitude ‘emotion signature clusters,’ synthesise them and store them on another computer. In other words, by studying the subtle characteristic brainwave patterns that occur when a subject experiences a particular emotion, scientists have been able to identify the concomitant brainwave pattern and can now duplicate it.” These modified emotion signature clusters can then be broadcast over UHF carrier frequencies (i.e., regular TV and radio signals) directly into the brain where they can then “silently trigger the same basic emotion in another human being.” In other words, if the emotional signature cluster for, say, a feeling of hopelessness and despair is being fed directly into your brain via unseen radio waves, you will feel those emotions. The implications of this are, quite literally, mind boggling.

[Mandala]

Ok Fred, that is a very unsettling post you just made. We can be emotionally modified on a regular basis.

[Teakai]

Ok Fred, that is a very unsettling post you just made. We can be emotionally modified on a regular basis.

He-e-e-y, maybe that's why so many people have depression. That makes millions for big pharma.

[Teakai]

This Mind Control method can be transmitted by GWEN TOWERS via VLF or UHF


Silent Sound Spread Spectrum (SSSS) & the All-Digital TV Broadcast Signal:

Ever since first hearing of it last spring, I’ve had a deepening sense of foreboding – an unnamed dread of the upcoming shift to an all-digital television broadcast signal, scheduled to occur in February 2009. Now, I believe, that nameless dread may have a name, after all.The Department of Defense calls it Silent Sound Spread Spectrum (SSSS), and it also goes by the name of S-quad or Squad. In the private sector, the technology goes by the name of Silent Subliminal Presentation System and the technology has also been released to certain corporate vendors who have attached catchy brand names like BrainSpeak Silent Subliminals to their own SSSS-based products.
Whatever you call it, SSSS is a technology that uses subliminal programming that is carried over Ultra-High Frequency (UHF) broadcast waves, planting inaudible messages directly into the subconscious human mind.


Perfected more than twenty years ago by the Department of Defense and battlefield-tested upon unwitting Iraqi soldiers serving in the army of Saddam Hussein in the Gulf War during 1991, SSSS is a sinister weapon that may have been been developed for a specific mission: the total subjugation of the American people.


Whether SSSS is coupled with the new all-digital TV signal as its means of delivery into the minds of an unsuspecting U.S. populace or not, it can be deployed by many different devices, including HAARP and GWEN towers, which would effectively blanket the entire nation at once. In fact, Judy Wall says that “there is evidence that the US Government has plans to extend the range of this technology to envelop all peoples, all countries. This can be accomplished, is being accomplished, by utilising the nearly completed HAARP project for overseas areas and the GWEN network now in place in the US. The US Government denies all this.”

But the most insidious aspect of SSSS is that it is completely undetectable by those being targeted. Because it delivers its subliminal programming directly to the human brain via the auditory sense at frequencies that humans are incapable of perceiving as sound, there is no defense against it. Everyone on the planet is equally susceptible to mind control via SSSS and there isn’t any escape from it, as the UHF waves can be transmitted over very long distances from remotely located sources and will pass through walls and other objects as if they are not there. UHF is the frequency (100mhz) that has been used for television and radio broadcasting for as long as these media have existed. SSSS is designed to utilize UHF as a carrier wave.


Even more insidious, though, is the fact that, coupled with the use of supercomputers, an individual’s unique electroencephalographic (EEG) patterns can be digitally altered and then stored for rebroadcast via digital UHF. According to Judy Wall, editor and publisher of Resonance, the newsletter of the Bioelectromagnetics Special Interest Group, these computer-enhanced EEGs “can identify and isolate the brain’s low-amplitude ‘emotion signature clusters,’ synthesise them and store them on another computer. In other words, by studying the subtle characteristic brainwave patterns that occur when a subject experiences a particular emotion, scientists have been able to identify the concomitant brainwave pattern and can now duplicate it.” These modified emotion signature clusters can then be broadcast over UHF carrier frequencies (i.e., regular TV and radio signals) directly into the brain where they can then “silently trigger the same basic emotion in another human being.” In other words, if the emotional signature cluster for, say, a feeling of hopelessness and despair is being fed directly into your brain via unseen radio waves, you will feel those emotions. The implications of this are, quite literally, mind boggling.

I heard that ringing in your ears etc (and not the ringing caused by tinitus) is caused by these SSSS waves. Can;t find where I read about it - but here's this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e4OEooonA3E&playnext=1&list=PL5C009CF1CB4258E2

[Teakai]

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HAARP Over Australia oh Look NSW !
We love you Teaks!






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Awww, thanks, Fred. That cheers me up no end :lol:

[Fred259]

[QUOTE=Fred259;129895][B]

[QUOTE][I heard that ringing in your ears etc (and not the ringing caused by tinitus) is caused by these SSSS waves. Can;t find where I read about it - but here's this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e4OEooonA3E&playnext=1&list=PL5C009CF1CB4258E2

Where did you get that image #117 from . When I first looked at that I thought it was something else, mind you on reflection a bit big I suppose, but then again…

[Teakai]

Where did you get that image #117 from . When I first looked at that I thought it was something else, mind you on reflection a bit big I suppose, but then again…

Your post is #117, Fred.
Are you talking about the you tube video?

[slvrfx]

Maybe its just a cosmic water pistol that you are refering to slvrfx

Or perhaps you misunderstand the scientific aproach of my evaluation,,,,,,,,

well lets try this one then,,,,,,,,,,

The apparatus for HAARP is a reversal of a radio telescope;

Antenna send out signals instead of receiving.

HAARP is the test run for a super-powerful radiowave-beaming technology that lifts areas of the ionosphere by focusing a beam and heating those areas. Electromagnetic waves then bounce back onto earth and penetrate everything -- living and dead.

Now one might be entitled to inquire what sort of beam would the haarp be beaming up there.........

OH,,,,,,,,,,, it's beaming radio waves,,,,, not like Kerrang mind you,,,,

<does his best homer impersonation,,,,,,,,mmmmmmmm,,, radio waves mmmmm

Radio waves,,,,suits you sir,now what frequency would one prefer,,,,,now let me seee,,,,,,would sir prefer a nice low one ,say mmmmmmm,,,say ELF SIR ? 200 - 230 DB SIR,,, OOOO suits you sir,,,,,,,,now where exactly would you like those dead bees,, fish,,, birds,and extremly confused sharks and humans,, sir,,,,


yeah right
,peace out dude

Why do you assume it's some deep dark conspiracy? Why not something cosmic?

I've known all the HAARP theories, but I also know scientists like Immanuel Velikovsky who wrote books in the 50's about catastrophes on our planet caused by cosmic events.

You need to expand your limited point of view. Grab a high-powered telescope.

(Knock off the negativity.)

Check this out while you're at it. Pentagon Abrupt Climate Change Report. Oct. 2003. 24 page report, given to congress, the President, and all government leaders around the globe.

They're NOT talking Global Warming, but ABRUPT CLIMATE CHANGE. Even has a timeline.

http://www.greenpeace.org/raw/content/international/press/reports/an-abrupt-climate-change-scena.pdf

Compare the scenarios to what is known to have happened a few times, anciently.

[passiglight]

written in my inglorious and humble opinion as usual..........Therefore kindly disregard my thoughts please

A long time ago we were thick,,Peace full-ish and sharing the planet with the reptillions whom we treated as gods.

Then the creators showed up and decided,, hey,, these guys are just what we need for our genetic experiment.

So they do two things,,, they change our DNA,, and they make adjustments to earths energy field.

This field of energy is known as the matrix. which not only is able to directly affect change to the newly adapted DNA but also regulates the vibration of the planet in order to enable us to be not sooo thick.

The newly adjusted matrix enables us to vibrate at a higher frequency than was previously available, thereby making us more intelligent.

The energy source for the matrix is located on the moon apparently.

I see this as an amplifier and modulator,,, only you can't plug your axe into it (guitar)

Not exactly sure this is correct but i think,,, something like 3% of our DNA is original,,, the other 97% is enhanced or alien.

We are currently and very patiently awaiting our next upgrade to the DNA which can be remotely switched and yes everybody's DNA can be switched at exactly the same time give or take some minutes depending on where one is on planet earth.

The switching mechanism is with the creators i believe...

When they throw the switch a higher field of energy will be directed at earth and will raise the frequency of the matrix,,,we will then all go 4th dimensional .

it looks like it will come from planet x,, which is apparently one of the creators home planets.


However,,, i believe the creators were hoping we would have made the 4th dimensional change ourselves, by peacefull and loving means..

Which had we been left alone we probably would of.

And this is where it all goes tits up,, because a few thousand years ago some other entities or souls showed up and basically threw a spanner in the works.


The technology for HAARP has probably been around for millenia and has probably been used over and over again thereby causing the abrupt climate changes as described in previous replys

One thing to bare in mind here,,, is we are something like the 3rd civilization that is this genetic experiment called us to have existed on this planet in the last few hundred thou years,,,

the others left lots of stuff behind after they were removed by the creators, whom i'm guessing are not very good at clearing up after themselves...

there is lots of stuff especially underground,, from the previous inhabitants including the tunnel networks which were found when they started building the new ones,,

imo, Some of the pyramids go back hundreds of thousands of years especially the ones just recently found and ones waiting to be found.

and including stuff like atlantis,whom our current vip would probably have plenty info on.

There is a difference to be made between visitors coming here using stargates,,, (jump rooms) and craft and visitors coming here as souls,,, who merely incarnate when they get popped off,,
instead of going back to source,,,

it would appear that staying away from the source leaves one a little cold, lonely and missing the experience of the love source provides.



Still,,,, you can take a horse to water but you cannot make it drink.


Could HAARP flip the geomagnetic field,,of course it could,,,,,,,could it even flip the planet,,,,my guess is yes,,



One could easily assume me of being a negaitve soul,,,, but then one wouldn't have a clue bout me ,would one


Cosmic love

[PandorasBox]

Understand that this information comes from my position where i have worked for many years. I find it very ironic also that they are waiting until May.

[truthseekerdan]

Scientist David Sereda discussed pole shifts and a recent FAA advisory regarding magnetic anomalies in the Bermuda Triangle, on Coast to Coast AM.

aUdiQMSNkQ0

Playlist (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aUdiQMSNkQ0&feature=mfu_in_order&list=UL)

[passiglight]

Understand that this information comes from my position where i have worked for many years. I find it very ironic also that they are waiting until May.

Please could you expand on your comment pandorasbox,,,

[passiglight]

Scientist David Sereda discussed pole shifts and a recent FAA advisory regarding magnetic anomalies in the Bermuda Triangle, on Coast to Coast AM.

aUdiQMSNkQ0

Playlist (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aUdiQMSNkQ0&feature=mfu_in_order&list=UL)


Thank you truthseekerdan

You have to go to youtube to listen to the other 3 parts

Now i understand what freds was meaning by cosmic effect,,,,,,,

cosmic love

[shiva777]

isn't it funny to see these people in proj Avalon who jump from very positive and uplifting messages about the future to really doomy and cataclysmic ones from day to day...are you guys manic depressives?........if it's not solar emmissions that are going to kill us all,it's food shortages or...dum,dum,de,dum...POLE SHIFT

Magnetic pole shifts are VERY different to physical pole shifts...the magnetics can be easily controlled and reversed by the collective human mind and our greater selves...the more people screaming "POLE SHIFT!" the more the magnetics will shift...what's the point in trying to convince the people that the poles will shift when there is absolutely nothing one could do to prepare for that?...think people...think about THIS
http://www.handclow2012.com/catastrophobia.htm

[Fred259]

Seriously folks this is “Media Terrorism”

Magnetic North is not really a pole as they would have you imagine. Yes it may reverse in the next million years or so but if it does life will still go on. The earth is not going to peel apart like a banana. You will still be able to drive the car and go to work.

The worst that will happen is a few power stations may be affected, ships and aircraft will have to load the new pole position into computers and satellites may be affected if they have no anti-magnetic protection.

Don’t believe all this horsepucky.

Ask a Physicist Geomagnetic Reversal (Pole Shift)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9tfLA1vKlfE

This is low priority viewing because it’s not going to affect you or your life.

If however you want a sensible answer from a Physicist this 10.00 video explains it is easy simple terms and you will have peace of mind. I promise.

[Teakai]

Understand that this information comes from my position where i have worked for many years. I find it very ironic also that they are waiting until May.

Why Pandorasbox?
Maybe it's something to do with dates?

Are you talking about pole shift of the New Madrid fault.
I was thinking you were talking about the NMF.

[Teakai]

isn't it funny to see these people in proj Avalon who jump from very positive and uplifting messages about the future to really doomy and cataclysmic ones from day to day...are you guys manic depressives?........if it's not solar emmissions that are going to kill us all,it's food shortages or...dum,dum,de,dum...POLE SHIFT

Magnetic pole shifts are VERY different to physical pole shifts...the magnetics can be easily controlled and reversed by the collective human mind and our greater selves...the more people screaming "POLE SHIFT!" the more the magnetics will shift...what's the point in trying to convince the people that the poles will shift when there is absolutely nothing one could do to prepare for that?...think people...think about THIS
http://www.handclow2012.com/catastrophobia.htm


I do think you make a very important point, Shiva. However, denying something or closing one's eyes to it out of fear isn't the solution - one is just burying their fear instead of giving voice to it - but they're still giving off negative energy.
If one feels fear in regard to thinking about a certain subject, the subject is not the cause, the cause is that the person feeling the fear is feeling it from lower mind - the lesson is to get out of lower mind - when we're out of lower mind our world will change.

The journey from lower mind to higher mind - and epic journey of awakening - to authentic self.
:)

[Teakai]

Thanks, Dan - very interesting interview.

Made me think that we should pinpoint the HAARP sites around the world and organise a mass consciousnessness focus on bringing them down. I guess the only problem is that we don't know when they're going to use it.
The only other thing I can think of is perhaps visualising the ground opening up and swallowing them whole or something. Whatever it is, we'd have to focus the same intention.

It'd be interesting to see what might happen if we all combined our intention.
(I realise that's not what the interview was about, really - but when the guy mentioned us using our magentism? to make the transition smoother than it might otherwise be it gave me the idea of using it in regard to HAARP. :) )

[passiglight]

Seriously folks this is “Media Terrorism”

Magnetic North is not really a pole as they would have you imagine. Yes it may reverse in the next million years or so but if it does life will still go on. The earth is not going to peel apart like a banana. You will still be able to drive the car and go to work.

The worst that will happen is a few power stations may be affected, ships and aircraft will have to load the new pole position into computers and satellites may be affected if they have no anti-magnetic protection.

Don’t believe all this horsepucky.

Ask a Physicist Geomagnetic Reversal (Pole Shift)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9tfLA1vKlfE

This is low priority viewing because it’s not going to affect you or your life.

If however you want a sensible answer from a Physicist this 10.00 video explains it is easy simple terms and you will have peace of mind. I promise.

AHHHH yes of course,here we go wasting our time debating the possible consequences of an earth shattering possibility,,,,,

You seem to be soooooooooo well informed fred its almost like your a professor in this stuff,,,,,,,

I mean its like,,,,,who cares what the planet does,,,,flip this flap that its all irrelevant in the long run anyhow as good old SOURCE has got our bed all made and is puffing up the pillows as we speak.

And its not about the message its all about shooting or dissing the messenger or making out its all some fairy tale in a ladybird book......

cosmic love

[Fred259]

Just watch the video and you will get it all into prospective…

With respect you would be better looking into why the British Government are training MK Ultra type super soldiers in Somerset

[truthseekerdan]

Thanks, Dan - very interesting interview.

Glad you enjoyed it Teakai. :)

Another interview with David Sereda (http://www.coasttocoastam.com/guest/sereda-david/6011) -- about a year old that I also recommend for you and those interested it's regarding Energy Shifts & 2012. (http://www.coasttocoastam.com/show/2009/12/21)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sNgUdg2NAmc

Playlist (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sNgUdg2NAmc&feature=mfu_in_order&list=UL)

[Mandala]

Shiva, I do understand what you are saying, but the thread evolved into an intetesting discussion which has presented new information, additional videos to view and more pieces of the puzzle to contemplate.

I personally don't see this as fear mongering, but a chance to research, understand, enlighten and move on. I understand this is about our personal spiritual journey.

At this point I am questioning HAARP, bird deaths in the New Madrid fault area, the millions of stored casket liners and the planned FEMA exercises along the New Madrid zone. (Not to mention FEMA requisitioning over 7 million meals ready to eat with a 6 month shelf life.) If TPTB were to trigger an earth quake in that area, I would want to take my family to safety. Also the video that truthseekerdan provided with David Sereta warants research and discussion.

Before the Charles thread, I was willing to accept the occurences of nature and continue my spiritual enlightenment. He didn speak of enhancing spirituality. He confirmed TPYB wanting to "cull the herd". If this true and I have prior knowledge of this, in any way or shape, I am moving my herd.

[Mandala]

Truthseekerdan thanks for bringing the video to light. It was very interesting. Fred,like to get your take on it. I have heard from several sources that recently there are noticeable magnetic anomalies in the Atlantic (in the triangle). We have friends that regularly go to the islands by their own boat and plane, but are leary to do so now. Electrical failures, gps screw-ups, and of course extreme navigational errors. The vortex is becoming active.

[Fred259]

Truthseekerdan thanks for bringing the video to light. It was very interesting. Fred,like to get your take on it. I have heard from several sources that recently there are noticeable magnetic anomalies in the Atlantic (in the triangle). We have friends that regularly go to the islands by their own boat and plane, but are leary to do so now. Electrical failures, gps screw-ups, and of course extreme navigational errors. The vortex is becoming active.


Utter horsepucky…he waffeled on for 10 minutes and said nothing. He has no professional qualification…

George Norey talks about a “massive shift”. More housepucky…seriously where is this massive shift…?

It doesn’t matter it just fills the airwaves, they need to talk about something.



The thing that’s Im seriously worried about in the US and UK is this.

The US / UK governments are controlled by the New World Order

The US / UK Military are controlled by the New World Order.

The man squatting at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue needs to be removed and sent to jail.

Charles needs to be told in no uncertain terms that slaughtering 6 billion is insanity

That’s what we need to worry about… we can do something about this, what can you do to influence the earth’s magnetic flux?

[truthseekerdan]

Utter horsepucky…he waffeled on for 10 minutes and said nothing. He has no professional qualification…

The interview is more than 10 min. click on the Playlist link (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aUdiQMSNkQ0&feature=mfu_in_order&list=UL) for the whole thing. :)

[Fred259]

Utter horsepucky…he waffeled on for 10 minutes and said nothing. He has no professional qualification…

The interview is more than 10 min. click on the Playlist link (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aUdiQMSNkQ0&feature=mfu_in_order&list=UL) for the whole thing. :)

Sorry I was looking at the one above...thaks for the link.


1) Noctilucent clouds toxic? High altitude clouds formed by ice crystals I cant see how they can be toxic?



2) The 2 day early sunrise in Greenland I suspect has something to do with changes in the nautical almanac and it may be to do with astronomical twilight….



3)He says 3-5 degrees change in magnetic north.. “Could be around 189 miles”

No What is wrong here is that he is confusing the word “degrees”.

The compass rotates around 360 degrees the same as your watch. Its just 360 degrees.


Changes in Latitude and Longitude on a chart / map are also called degrees, which I accept is confusing. 1degree change of lat or long is *60 nautical miles. (only at the equator)

*Magnetic north is at 86N so if its moved in any direction due to its high latitude you need to multiply 0.5 x cosine of the mean latitude to get the true distance.

The problem is he is confusing the two.

I think magnetic north has moved about 22nm so that would be 1/3 of 1 degree or 22 minutes of latitude.



4) He says Earths magnet programmed in the magnetic compass. This is rubbish folks the magnets sense continually the earths magnetic flux, it’s a continual process. I can honestly say I have never ever programmed a compass in my life,have you?



5)Magnetic anomalies / sunspot activities / solar storms. Yes these do happen and are allowed for in aircraft and ships but maybe not smaller boats..


6) @11.30 He says: A 10 degree shift would be physically devastating???

In what way would this be devastating? Seriously it’s grossly irresponsible to say that. The compass needle will now point 10 degrees further to the left or right.

It could be a small problem for ship’s and aircraft, but they will just calculate a new bearing.
Possible problems with power stations.
Satellites would need to be re programmed.

That’s it. These could be done in a matter of days. The worlds power supply is not going to shut down, so how can this be devastating.???

The earth will still be the same. The compass will read the new point of Magnetic north.



7) @12.03 “Noctulucent toxic clouds could slam down and cause animal deaths” Get real!!! they are at 60-70,000 ft if I remember.. lerts just agree very high..




8) GPS signals being pulsed and weak….. GPS signals are a UHF band and are modulated onto the UHF carrier wave how could they be weak.

Ham radio. Well long range ham radio will be LF/HF again these are radio waves so LF will be stronger because the width of the wave is greater.


9)If you are wondering about the animal deaths I think its HAARP. All the earthquakes are happening at 10,000 feet precisely within the earths core. I think that’s strange !




10) Let’s assume that Magnetic north rotates anticlockwise on Tuesday and instead of being in Ellesmere Island Canada its now in Grand Forks North Dakota good old ND. So now we have a POLE SHIFT !


This is what you should do.

Tell your wife/girlfriend this is a poleshift and this is her last chance to get lucky!

If you require a compass to get to work, check with the FAA or Coast Guard and they will advise you the new variation (declination) required.

If you don’t require a compass to get to work, you have no excuse for not being at work.

It will just be a normal day.

[David Dean]

Bill, I am asking you to weigh in on this one for rumor control.
I need some of our good researchers with time on the hands, which I don't have at the moment, to check out some things.

I recently was sent a link concerning information on the internet regarding a possible pole shift in March.

It seems this is partially due to an alleged Alex Jones (so-called whistleblower from the White House) claiming the government was aware of a pole shift their scientists are predicting this March. They quickly went to a commercal. Fact or fiction? Don't know. Of course I can't find proof. Other people are discussing a youtube video.

I can't see youtube at work to evaluate the videos some people are discussing. I was hoping someone who can access them, might check them out.

On one youtube video that I'm blocked from deals with a lady who "claims" she has been experimented on by the government. She says she has received information regarding the Comet Elenin which caused Earth's axis to shift February of last year,and believes this year it will cause a much larger shift on March 15th.
This comet should not be coming back until the fall.

It is kind of interesting because I belive I read that there is a FEMA readiness exercise on May 15th in the middle of the country near the New Madrid Seismic Zone. Supposedly planning for supplies for 7 million people over a period of 10 days. Also, I read that FEMA had recently requisitioned MRE with a short shelf life of no more than 6 months.

Guys, it could all be BS.

Could someone give me a hand with this. I am at work with only 5 min to write this request. Thanks, Mandala

Hi folks,,

I had some dejavu earlier today,,,, "nothing is a coincidence,,

I had a cold call fone call earlier today,, from a guy in the states,, i let him deliver his pitch,,, and then half jokingly,, but slightly sardonic,, i said "whats the point the world is gonna end soon anyhow"...

He said "oh,, thats ironic"

He continued,, "On my way to work this morning i was exiting grand central in new york and in my path was a guy wearing a sandwhich board" saying: " the world ends, i think it said, 24th march", "ain't that bit wierd!"

I said "oh, there are no coincidences" .

but there's good examples of synchronicity.,, my reading this thread,, him telling me the story and him meeting the sandwhich board man

That's really got me thinking,,,,

and,,,,on a couple of other threads about the prevelance and possibility of earthquakes,,especially at yellow stone,, and the wandering magnetic pole,,,,,

There's this business with the dark patches on the sun,, could be foretelling large earthquakes, plus the axis shift being caused by the comet,,,which reminds me of the star of david,,, we're only few months out from xmas,,,,,,

And,, if they were 11 years out on the calender calculation for birth of christ, then it could well be 2000 years almost to when christ was born,, and that comet could be star of david,,,

If thats the case then,,hhhmmmm well maybe he's here,,,

Oh well just thinking,,

anyhow i take the dejavu for real.

cosmic love folks

Hi all,

One of the reasons I joined Avalon is because I now believe in synchronism. Certain things where given to me over my life time and also within the last few years that do seem strange. If you would all allow me to post certain things, I would be grateful if you could give me your advice on what I post. I am not a malicious person and have only tried to be a friendly person.

The reason I replied to this post in particular is because of the Star Of David mentioned above.

So first of all would you all allow me to post a few things just to see what reaction I receive, and please do not hesitate to ask me to leave if you all believe it to be appropriate.

If it would be more appropriate to start a new thread please don't hesitate to let me know.

Wishing you all the very best.
Dixie.

[Teakai]

Thanks, Dan - very interesting interview.

Glad you enjoyed it Teakai. :)

Another interview with David Sereda (http://www.coasttocoastam.com/guest/sereda-david/6011) -- about a year old that I also recommend for you and those interested it's regarding Energy Shifts & 2012. (http://www.coasttocoastam.com/show/2009/12/21)


Woah!! Thanks, Dan - if he's right it sounds like some kinda trip :)

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Hi all,

One of the reasons I joined Avalon is because I now believe in synchronism. Certain things where given to me over my life time and also within the last few years that do seem strange. If you would all allow me to post certain things, I would be grateful if you could give me your advice on what I post. I am not a malicious person and have only tried to be a friendly person.

The reason I replied to this post in particular is because of the Star Of David mentioned above.

So first of all would you all allow me to post a few things just to see what reaction I receive, and please do not hesitate to ask me to leave if you all believe it to be appropriate.

If it would be more appropriate to start a new thread please don't hesitate to let me know.

Wishing you all the very best.
Dixie.

Go right ahead, Dixie. I certainly won't rouse on you - watch out for Fred, though :)




Joking Fred.
;)

[David Dean]

Although this is out of sync I'll start with this because I've not long posted it on anther web site. Have a look and see what you think and then I'll tell you a bit more about myself.

When I first arrived in Thailand I was looking for somewhere to stay and went looking round and collecting business cards. One off the places we went to was this…

http://img34.imageshack.us/img34/4044/rimpingcondo.th.jpg (http://img34.imageshack.us/i/rimpingcondo.jpg/)

Rimping Condominium, we didn’t stay there but, I kept the card just in case. After being here about 2 years we went to our local supermarket called Rimping and while we were there we notice a guy selling lamps so we went over to have a look but decided to go back later but, before we left I asked the guy for his card which was this one…

http://img200.imageshack.us/img200/3218/slamp.th.jpg (http://img200.imageshack.us/i/slamp.jpg/)

I asked him for his email address just in case he wasn’t there when we came back again and this was his signature…

http://img406.imageshack.us/img406/6182/card2t.th.png (http://img406.imageshack.us/i/card2t.png/)

It looks a bit like David to me.

A few months after we got the card from Rimping I decided to go for a ride on my bike which takes me through an housing estate but, this day I went a different way and noticed a Church of Christ while riding round. I didn’t go in at the time I just thought it was funny. A few days later I decided to go and see the people running the Church. One thing I noticed at the time was that they had a picture of Winnie Pooh. Anyway I went into the Church and the guy gave me a King James Bible.

While we were talking I opened the Bible to the inside cover which is this picture…

http://img200.imageshack.us/img200/4802/bible11.th.png (http://img200.imageshack.us/i/bible11.png/)

The first thing I noticed was the lamp because it reminded me of the lamp man in Rimping. Notice under the lamp Psalms 119 : 105. While we where still talking and discussing the Bible we ended up on this page…

http://img716.imageshack.us/img716/5779/bible21.th.png (http://img716.imageshack.us/i/bible21.png/)

My Birthday is 25 August 1953 the first thing I noticed on the Calendar reading page was that Psalm 119 was on my birthday. That Psalm is the longest Psalm in the Bible which is one of the Psalms of David. It also has I Corinthians 7:20 – 40. In this copy of the Bible Psalm 119 is on page 404, and Corinthians 7 is on page 121.

Now, can anyone tell me if I am being set up for something I don’t know about because, all this synchronisation seems a bit out of the ordinary for me. I really would like to know what’s going on. And I'd like to know why I being ****ed with.

If I find any more links I let you all know.

I also started putting this together in relation to what I've posted above and I'm not sure if it means anything.

I also don't know if it's a coincidence that there are 365 days in a year and the book of Psalms starts on page 365.

Staying with Psalms the last Psalm is 150 and is on page 413. It means playing round with numbers. 150 could mean 15 because zero's don't count and 15 could be 3 O'clock. 413 could mean 4/13 or 13th April. And we have Easter in April. There are 11 days difference between the Julian Calender and the Georgian Calender 13 plus 11 = 24 which would mean Easter Sunday. Easter also reminds me of Easter Island.

You could also think of 3 Oclock as North East.

There could also be something in Bearing Navigation (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bearing_%28navigation%29) especially as I have a disc here with Navigator written on it.

So as it's 3 there could be something in section 3.


3. In marine navigation, starboard bearings are 'green' and port bearings are 'red'. Thus, in ship navigation, a target directly off the starboard side would be 'Green090' or 'G090'.[7] This method is only used for a relative bearing. A navigator on watch does not always have a corrected compass available with which to give an accurate bearing. If available, the bearing might not be numerate. Therefore, every forty-five degrees of direction from north on the compass was divided into four 'points'. Thus, 32 points of 11.25° each makes a circle of 360°. An object at 022.5° relative would be 'two points off the starboard bow', an object at 101.25° relative would be 'one point abaft the starboard beam' and an object at 213.75° relative would be 'three points on the port quarter'. This method is only used for a relative bearing.


In a circle you have 360 degrees and 365 days in a year so, that's a difference of 5. 5 days.

As we are talking about time 5 days in Minuets is 7200. Divide that by 32 points and you get 225 mins. I'm not sure of the relationship between the Georgian Calendar and the Julian Calendar is just yet. I did look at a Wiki page I'll have to find it again.

7200 also reminds me of Hard Disc Drive Speeds. Meaning computer. My first computer was an IBM PS1 which could mean Pslam 1. Psalm 1 is on page 365, and 366. Next year is a leap year having 336 days.

I don't know if all this means anything just yet as I haven't finished, I'm just looking into it, as I've not done this sort of thing before. So if anyone could give me their advice, I would be very grateful. I do have more I can post later if requried. And I'll let you know a bit more about myself.

I would have thought if what was mentioned above about the Star Of David it would maybe tie in with Easter weekend.

Thanks in advance
Dixie

PS. Sorry for any spelling mistakes or bad punctuation.

[Teakai]

Wow, Dixie - what you ought to do is paste this into a new thread and then those who know about numerology (and those who just like to guess ;) ) can chime in with what they think.

You'll get more viewers that way - a lot of people stay away from pole shift threads - I think, so your audience here is limited.

Sorry, I'm not much of a help - with numerology I'm mostly a guesser :)

[David Dean]

Wow, Dixie - what you ought to do is paste this into a new thread and then those who know about numerology (and those who just like to guess ;) ) can chime in with what they think.

You'll get more viewers that way - a lot of people stay away from pole shift threads - I think, so your audience here is limited.

Sorry, I'm not much of a help - with numerology I'm mostly a guesser :)

Hi Teakai,

As this was my first post could you give me any indication of the best section to post it in?

Teakai,

Talking of synchronisation. I mentioned 13 April in my last post and notice you joined on the 13th of April and I'm in Thailand which is well known for Teak.

Strange things.

[Isostool]

Apparently, back in 1996 an insider known as 'Red Pin' revealed that the numerology associated with the pole shift as known to some inside esoteric orders was 15-55. The pole over the last little while moved 15 then 55 km. it is also to know that a pole shift takes about 2000 years to happen from start to end. it doesn't just switch in a day... it's a gradual thing. For the Red Pin reference see:http://www.facebook.com/l.php?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.slideshare.net%2FPureJoy2Exist%2Ftime-gate-2011-news&h=b15fc

[David Dean]

Wow, Dixie - what you ought to do is paste this into a new thread and then those who know about numerology (and those who just like to guess ;) ) can chime in with what they think.

You'll get more viewers that way - a lot of people stay away from pole shift threads - I think, so your audience here is limited.

Sorry, I'm not much of a help - with numerology I'm mostly a guesser :)

Hi Teakai,

As this was my first post could you give me any indication of the best section to post it in?

Teakai,

Talking of synchronisation. I mentioned 13 April in my last post and notice you joined on the 13th of April and I'm in Thailand which is well known for Teak.

Strange things.

I don't know if this is just timing or not but, I've just listened to this You Tube link by Alex Jones (http://www.youtube.com/v/tRTOqqhhDBs) and notice he mentions The Genie is out of the Bottle.

[passiglight]

Hi fred how are you today ? well i hope :-)

I watched the vid on the link you suggested,,,personally i found this information to be lacking in some detail,,,,,,the man doesn't even have the correct terminology,,,a geophysical field reversal is what we are discussing here, i believe your man was a physicist great,,but does that mean he can comprehend the geophysical consequences that are experienced when something like a geophysical field reversal happens ? well he has demonstrated he doesn't comprehend these consequences at all.

In fact not one single human being on planet earth has any idea whatsoever in any way at all about what will happen during this event,not ONE.

Now as i understandit, the elements of that paradigm cannot be comprehended, and the reason for this non understanding is because the last time this event happened on a major scale was 780,000 thousand years ago,,

So please tell me what right do you have to issue personal statements claiming that you know something that not ONE other human being on this planet does.

The only evidence that we apparently have is the geophysical characteristics that were layed down at that time,,,,,,,,,,,

and what we do know is that around that time there was massive geological upheaval and a mass extinction event.

What accurate and technological data can you add to this fred, other than your apparent opinion and a video of a physicist talking about geophysical events ????

I appreciate your input and value your knowledge base and recognise your ability to copy and paste from this data base fred,,,,but when something more is called for,,,,,,,,,please tell me,,,,,

what further scientific data can you add to this debate please ?????

Other than your personal speculation.

perhaps this man knows more than is commonly percieved.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0TiCBrFQUa0&feature=related

Cosmic love

[passiglight]

Teakai,there is some stuff that i have said recently here that is not right,and i will try to put that right later,,,

[passiglight]

Check this wondefully aware guy out,,,,his references about the geophysical reversal come towards the end of the vid,,,,,,,,,

But please watch it all,,,

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rRaRBryUMV8&feature=player_embedded

[passiglight]

There are in general a couple aspects of a geomagnetic field reversal that we do not seem to be able to agree on

1) the time it takes for the reversal....data copied and pasted from British Geological Survey Website...


2) the impact it may have : data copied and pasted from British Geological Survey Website...

http://www.geomag.bgs.ac.uk/education/reversals.html



1) this info is taken from this link........

http://www.geomag.bgs.ac.uk/education/reversals.html

It suggests here that

How quickly do the poles 'flip'?

"We have no complete record of the history of any reversal, so any claims we can make are mostly on the basis of mathematical models of the field behaviour and partly on limited evidence from rocks that retain an imprint of the ancient magnetic field present when they were formed. For example, the mathematical simulations seem to suggest that a full reversal may take about one to several thousand years to complete. This is fast by geological standards but slow on a human time scale. "


2) "Is there any danger to life?

"Almost certainly not. The Earth's magnetic field is contained within a region of space, known as the magnetosphere, by the action of the solar wind. The magnetosphere deflects many, but not all, of the high-energy particles that flow from the Sun in the solar wind and from other sources in the galaxy. Sometimes the Sun is particularly active, for example when there are many sunspots, and it may send clouds of high-energy particles in the direction of the Earth. During such solar 'flares' and 'coronal mass ejections', astronauts in Earth orbit may need extra shelter to avoid higher doses of radiation. Therefore we know that the Earth's magnetic field offers only some, rather than complete, resistance to particle radiation from space. Indeed high-energy particles can actually be accelerated within the magnetosphere."

"At the Earth's surface, the atmosphere acts as an extra blanket to stop all but the most energetic of the solar and galactic radiation. In the absence of a magnetic field, the atmosphere would still stop most of the radiation. Indeed the atmosphere shields us from high-energy radiation as effectively as a concrete layer some 13 feet thick."

"Human beings have been on the Earth for a number of million years, during which there have been many reversals, and there is no obvious correlation between human development and reversals. Similarly, reversal patterns do not match patterns in species extinction during geological history."

"Some animals, such as pigeons and whales, may use the Earth's magnetic field for direction finding. Assuming that a reversal takes a number of thousand years, that is, over many generations of each species, each animal may well adapt to the changing magnetic environment, or develop different methods of navigation."

I hope this goes some way to supporting and understanding freds theory

Cosmic love

[passiglight]

Further to my earlier post:

Teakai :

i previously said about the matrix nurishing us etc,,,,,,,

*David Icke says something about the matrix having forgotten it is part of Source and it having developed some extremaly negative frequencies.*

* Not quoted directly just recalling from my memory

cosmic love

[Teakai]

Wow, Dixie - what you ought to do is paste this into a new thread and then those who know about numerology (and those who just like to guess ;) ) can chime in with what they think.

You'll get more viewers that way - a lot of people stay away from pole shift threads - I think, so your audience here is limited.

Sorry, I'm not much of a help - with numerology I'm mostly a guesser :)

Hi Teakai,

As this was my first post could you give me any indication of the best section to post it in?

Teakai,

Talking of synchronisation. I mentioned 13 April in my last post and notice you joined on the 13th of April and I'm in Thailand which is well known for Teak.
Strange things.

That's cool!! :)

Here's another synchronicity - you're from Thailand - and my first name is in the word Thailand :)

Perhaps put it under general discussion. I'll open it for you if you don't yet have access to do it yourself. Just let me know. And tell me what you want to call it.
If it's already done just ignore this post.

[Teakai]

Thanks, Dan - very interesting interview.

Made me think that we should pinpoint the HAARP sites around the world and organise a mass consciousnessness focus on bringing them down. I guess the only problem is that we don't know when they're going to use it.
The only other thing I can think of is perhaps visualising the ground opening up and swallowing them whole or something. Whatever it is, we'd have to focus the same intention.

It'd be interesting to see what might happen if we all combined our intention.
(I realise that's not what the interview was about, really - but when the guy mentioned us using our magentism? to make the transition smoother than it might otherwise be it gave me the idea of using it in regard to HAARP. :) )

Has anyone been doing this?
I noticed there were 8 small earthquakes in Alaska yesterday. I don't know how normal that is because I've only just started checking.
But, just thought I'd say, if people are doing this, I would suggest honing in focus to a direct area and not willy nilly. :)

¤=[Post Update]=¤


Further to my earlier post:

Teakai :

i previously said about the matrix nurishing us etc,,,,,,,

*David Icke says something about the matrix having forgotten it is part of Source and it having developed some extremaly negative frequencies.*

* Not quoted directly just recalling from my memory

cosmic love

Hi Passiglight, I listened to that interview fairly recently - and what it is is direct and conscious effort to keep our persepective restricted due to the frequency it's surrounding us with.

That's what I came away with anyway - that the matrix was a being made invention for the use of self gain and control.

[dddanieljjjamesss]

its like... 8 pages and I still don't know up from down. I tried to follow but it feels that the discussion is no longer about pole shift.

Magnetic fields may be important but what I want to know is what I can do.

Well, if everything is off-balance: Best thing may be to restore it.

[David Dean]

Hi Fred - how do the government make money out of a pole shift? I haven't heard it being officially mentioned, so it's pretty hard to cash in on, unlike global warming *snort*

I watched the Wiki link. That's also covered in this video, but going back a lot further than 400 years:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lJxrs0v-3b0

Can I be allowed to just pick up on the above video. If you look at the Scripps logo it looks a bit like the Ankh (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ankh) and isn't it strange they are called Scripps because that sounds like Script as in Biblical. From what I can see of Scripps they are also into Medical Research (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scripps_Research_Institute)

I was just wondering if there might be a link between Scripps and the Scripts. What about the Dead Sea Scrolls (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dead_Sea_Scrolls).

Constable reminds me of Police and a Police state.

When I was in Saudi Arabia working an American lady gave me a peace of oiled cloth with people on it (pictured bellow) I didn't take much notice at first until I came over to Thailand when I looked at it again and it reminded me of Moses and the People waiting to come out of Egypt. What do you think yourselves.

http://img692.imageshack.us/img692/7789/peoplewaiting.th.jpg (http://img692.imageshack.us/i/peoplewaiting.jpg/)

Moses was said to have lead the people out of Slavery. You will have to excuse me as I'm just trying to get my head around what's going on in this world today.

I've posted another picture below of a plaque that was made for me in Norway and when you look at my name I've just realised that the letters used are in Script but, the S looks more like a J to me. Have a look at the picture and then compared the lettering using Word and the Script font. Font also reminds me of a Church Font.

http://img219.imageshack.us/img219/5623/housephotos005.th.jpg (http://img219.imageshack.us/i/housephotos005.jpg/)

You have to zoom in to see the writing. I'll start a new thread in General and see If I can peace a few things together. I just find it funny how I've started with this thread.

Could I just say at this point that I believe I am a victim of MK Ultra and Haarp. I also believe someone has been messing round with my teeth and maybe fitted a Chip. Obvisously I can't prove it not unless there are people out there that can detect it for me.

[Fred259]

Hi fred how are you today ? well i hope :-)


I watched the vid on the link you suggested,,,personally i found this information to be lacking in some detail,,,,,,the man doesn't even have the correct terminology,,,a geophysical field reversal is what we are discussing here, i believe your man was a physicist great,,but does that mean he can comprehend the geophysical consequences that are experienced when something like a geophysical field reversal happens ? well he has demonstrated he doesn't comprehend these consequences at all.

I'm sorry you didnt like the video, but he is a Physicist what are you?


So please tell me what right do you have to issue personal statements claiming that you know something that not ONE other human being on this planet does

I have not issued personal statements. I have just provided fact.

These are your words, I would agree its not common knowledge but hundreds of thousands of people if not millions know what this is about this it’s just that you don’t.



What accurate and technological data can you add to this fred, other than your apparent opinion and a video of a physicist talking about geophysical events ????

I have, been trying to help you, but the facts didn’t fit with your agenda so you told me I didn’t know what I was talking about.

I say again, No opinions just facts they might be rusty I admit, but we can only talk facts.

“Opinions don’t exist in Engineering”



I appreciate your input and value your knowledge base and recognise your ability to copy and paste from this data base fred,,,,but when something more is called for,,,,,,,,,please tell me,,,,,

what further scientific data can you add to this debate please ?????

Ladies and Gentlemen this is a fine example of an Englishman. Because he don’t know what he’s talking about, he thinks’ that nobody else could remotely know either.

He comes from Somerset England, where they grow apples in orchards and make cider. (it’s a drink)

People in the southern hemisphere are laughing now.



Other than your personal speculation.

No speculation. Only facts.



perhaps this man knows more than is commonly percieved.

Ha! You are so gracious.

I did study this many years ago in a rush, and failed the exam.

I then had to properly study in order to pass the exam.


*I refer you to post #15 this guy knows what he’s talking about, I agree with him.


*I’ve been with the girls in the chat room and I popped out to see how it was coming along.. Now you are making good progress Post #148 is good, in fact very good. I see you are even gracious enough to give me a plug;

“I hope this goes some way to supporting and understanding Freds theory” NO FACTS

Wonderful. Now a Tip. In order to prove to yourself that the world won’t fall apart you need an understanding the workings of “Gyroscopes”.

Now I’m going back to be with the girls, but wonderful effort it’s coming along….




Cosmic love

And cosmic love to you too

[Fred259]

Hi fred how are you today ? well i hope :-)


I watched the vid on the link you suggested,,,personally i found this information to be lacking in some detail,,,,,,the man doesn't even have the correct terminology,,,a geophysical field reversal is what we are discussing here, i believe your man was a physicist great,,but does that mean he can comprehend the geophysical consequences that are experienced when something like a geophysical field reversal happens ? well he has demonstrated he doesn't comprehend these consequences at all.

I'm sorry you didnt like the video, but he is a Physicist what are you?


So please tell me what right do you have to issue personal statements claiming that you know something that not ONE other human being on this planet does

I have not issued personal statements. I have just provided fact.

These are your words, I would agree its not common knowledge but hundreds of thousands of people if not millions know what this is about this it’s just that you don’t.



What accurate and technological data can you add to this fred, other than your apparent opinion and a video of a physicist talking about geophysical events ????

I have, been trying to help you, but the facts didn’t fit with your agenda so you told me I didn’t know what I was talking about.

I say again, No opinions just facts they might be rusty I admit, but we can only talk facts.

“Opinions don’t exist in Engineering”



I appreciate your input and value your knowledge base and recognise your ability to copy and paste from this data base fred,,,,but when something more is called for,,,,,,,,,please tell me,,,,,

what further scientific data can you add to this debate please ?????

Ladies and Gentlemen this is a fine example of an Englishman. Because he don’t know what he’s talking about, he thinks’ that nobody else could remotely know either.

He comes from Somerset England, where they grow apples in orchards and make cider. (it’s a drink)

People in the southern hemisphere are laughing now.



Other than your personal speculation.

No speculation. Only facts.



perhaps this man knows more than is commonly percieved.

Ha! You are so gracious.

I did study this many years ago in a rush, and failed the exam.

I then had to properly study in order to pass the exam.


*I refer you to post #15 this guy knows what he’s talking about, I agree with him.


*I’ve been with the girls in the chat room and I popped out to see how it was coming along.. Now you are making good progress Post #148 is good, in fact very good. I see you are even gracious enough to give me a plug;

“I hope this goes some way to supporting and understanding Freds theory” NO FACTS

Wonderful. Now a Tip. In order to prove to yourself that the world won’t fall apart you need an understanding the workings of “Gyroscopes”.

Now I’m going back to be with the girls, but wonderful effort it’s coming along….



[
QUOTE]Cosmic love And cosmic love to you too[/QUOTE]

[Mandala]

I think the "Ask a Physicist" is a little misleading. The physicist, is a student "doing a physics degree" at Warwick, UK. He said this was a class project. Sometimes you just can't beleve anything that you see or hear. Shame on that guy.

[Lifebringer]

Heyyy? That's the same way I shifted the poles in my book I'm writing. Canada and US east coast is the new North Pole, and Africa on the southern half of the equator.

Talk about coincidence. I drew this same diagram on my paperwork, to keep up with the catastrophic ending so as not to get them mixed up with the new shift.

WOW!

[passiglight]

• ALL QUOTES ARE FREDS
Hi Fred
Hope you are enjoying yourself and you are in a good space spiritually.
“He comes from Somerset England, where they grow apples in orchards and make cider. (it’s a drink)

People in the southern hemisphere are laughing now.”

First off, I think, if you don’t mind I would like to point out some notes on Facts and factual representation and the application of such here-in
“He comes from Somerset England, where they grow apples in orchards and make cider. (it’s a drink)

People in the southern hemisphere are laughing now.”
I don’t come from somerset.

And as I understand it imo they grow apples and make cider all over the Uk,,,
and too be honest I fail completely to understand the context of the comment…

“People in the southern hemisphere are laughing now.”

So for me ,,,,please could you pm me to expand on this comment please.

“I say again, No opinions just facts they might be rusty I admit, but we can only talk facts.”
By this comment are you refering to your posts # 97 and # 100 ????

The reason I ask is because you have not given the source for the references..They do not apear to be rusty facts to me..

And I ask you once again for the site links, so that we may verify for ourselves the comments you have posted.

As an aside to this,and imo… That picture you posted of the plane spraying chemtrail seemed a real hot one.

This comment you posted here is a very confusing comment to make fred, and I fail to see the relevance of it in this thread.

“I’ve been with the girls in the chat room and I popped out to see how it was coming along.. Now you are making good progress Post #148 is good, in fact very good. I see you are even gracious enough to give me a plug;

“*I hope this goes some way to supporting and understanding Freds theory* ” "NO FACTS"
• *Me quoted from prevoius reply to this thread*,, ‘see above”.

"Wonderful. Now a Tip. In order to prove to yourself that the world won’t fall apart you need an understanding the workings of “Gyroscopes”.

Now I’m going back to be with the girls, but wonderful effort it’s coming along”

A couple of things I’d like to highlight here are this…….

1) If you have something to add with regard to “gyroscopes” please feel free to enlighten us your imput is more than welcomed.
2) “is good, in fact very good”. Please refrain from confusing fact with opinion its doesn’t help us to discern the content of your data.
3) Girls ????!!!!!
4) In future when quoting me ,,, would you be so kind as to quote me correctly with appropriate puntuation so that is clear for the reader to discern what is your text and what is mine

“I say again, No opinions just facts they might be rusty I admit, but we can only talk facts.”

And I quote ,,,,,,,,,,,,,

“ I didnt say that, I don’t dispute this. Has it happened before yes millions of years ago? Will it happen again? On the basis that it has happened before probably yes.”

Your opinions are clear enough here fred as is your vague acount of the last time a geomagnetic field reversal took place,, and the scientific valuation of this last reversal was aproximately 780,000 years ago as defined in the geological records….

Another of freds opinions ……
“Very few people understand magnetic polarity or flux and so all this chit chat about reversing poles is grossly irresponsible.”

I see no reason to illuminate your other vagueness's or opinions, or to attempt to extradite the differences between your data and your opinions and the other irrelevant content you have entered here…other than to state,,,,,,,,

There is a thread on this forum with regard to replying to threads in general.
It is helpful to the other readers for the contributor to place his opinions with opinion statuses, and facts to be backed up with source links in order that others may inform and discern themselves more easily of the content involved therein.

Actually fred ……imo,It is very difficult for the reader to determine the difference between your opinions and your facts and you have not presented others with the oportunity to check your data for themselves, this can be confusing to the reader.

One point I’d like to make here is,,,,,if you fred have something personal to say to me,, I would prefer it if you would kindly PM me ,,as the noise and chatter on this thread is moving us away from the subject matter, and people have come here to inform themselves of the context of a geomagnetic field reversal and not inform themselves of where I allegedly come from.

One more important thing I’d like to note here is….

Having introduced some personal comments with regard to me ,you have placed yourself within my field of influence and this gives me a wonderful oportunity to send to you my shining light of aura…

I have meditated on you fred and have sent you oodles of positive karma and beautiful intentions I have cosmic love for you fred which is pure and unconditional, and I send this for you to bathe in. hope you enjoy my spirit..

Cosmic love

[Fred259]

• ALL QUOTES ARE FREDS
Hi Fred
Hope you are enjoying yourself and you are in a good space spiritually.
“He comes from Somerset England, where they grow apples in orchards and make cider. (it’s a drink)

People in the southern hemisphere are laughing now.”

First off, I think, if you don’t mind I would like to point out some notes on Facts and factual representation and the application of such here-in
“He comes from Somerset England, where they grow apples in orchards and make cider. (it’s a drink)

People in the southern hemisphere are laughing now.”
I don’t come from somerset.

And as I understand it imo they grow apples and make cider all over the Uk,,,
and too be honest I fail completely to understand the context of the comment…

“People in the southern hemisphere are laughing now.”

So for me ,,,,please could you pm me to expand on this comment please.

“I say again, No opinions just facts they might be rusty I admit, but we can only talk facts.”

By this comment are you refering to your posts # 97 and # 100 ????

The reason I ask is because you have not given the source for the references..They do not apear to be rusty facts to me..

And I ask you once again for the site links, so that we may verify for ourselves the comments you have posted.

As an aside to this,and imo… That picture you posted of the plane spraying chemtrail seemed a real hot one. This comment you posted here is a very confusing comment to make fred, and I fail to see the relevance of it in this thread.

“I’ve been with the girls in the chat room and I popped out to see how it was coming along.. Now you are making good progress Post #148 is good, in fact very good. I see you are even gracious enough to give me a plug;

“*I hope this goes some way to supporting and understanding Freds theory* ” "NO FACTS"
• *Me quoted from prevoius reply to this thread*,, ‘see above”.

"Wonderful. Now a Tip. In order to prove to yourself that the world won’t fall apart you need an understanding the workings of “Gyroscopes”.

Now I’m going back to be with the girls, but wonderful effort it’s coming along”

A couple of things I’d like to highlight here are this…….

1) If you have something to add with regard to “gyroscopes” please feel free to enlighten us your imput is more than welcomed.
2) “is good, in fact very good”. Please refrain from confusing fact with opinion its doesn’t help us to discern the content of your data.
3) Girls ????!!!!!
4) In future when quoting me ,,, would you be so kind as to quote me correctly with appropriate puntuation so that is clear for the reader to discern what is your text and what is mine

“I say again, No opinions just facts they might be rusty I admit, but we can only talk facts.”

And I quote ,,,,,,,,,,,,,

“ I didnt say that, I don’t dispute this. Has it happened before yes millions of years ago? Will it happen again? On the basis that it has happened before probably yes.”

Your opinions are clear enough here fred as is your vague acount of the last time a geomagnetic field reversal took place,, and the scientific valuation of this last reversal was aproximately 780,000 years ago as defined in the geological records….

Another of freds opinions ……
“Very few people understand magnetic polarity or flux and so all this chit chat about reversing poles is grossly irresponsible.”

I see no reason to illuminate your other vagueness's or opinions, or to attempt to extradite the differences between your data and your opinions and the other irrelevant content you have entered here…other than to state,,,,,,,,

There is a thread on this forum with regard to replying to threads in general.
It is helpful to the other readers for the contributor to place his opinions with opinion statuses, and facts to be backed up with source links in order that others may inform and discern themselves more easily of the content involved therein.

Actually fred ……imo,It is very difficult for the reader to determine the difference between your opinions and your facts and you have not presented others with the oportunity to check your data for themselves, this can be confusing to the reader.

One point I’d like to make here is,,,,,if you fred have something personal to say to me,, I would prefer it if you would kindly PM me ,,as the noise and chatter on this thread is moving us away from the subject matter, and people have come here to inform themselves of the context of a geomagnetic field reversal and not inform themselves of where I allegedly come from.

One more important thing I’d like to note here is….

Having introduced some personal comments with regard to me ,you have placed yourself within my field of influence and this gives me a wonderful oportunity to send to you my shining light of aura…

I have meditated on you fred and have sent you oodles of positive karma and beautiful intentions I have cosmic love for you fred which is pure and unconditional, and I send this for you to bathe in. hope you enjoy my spirit..

Cosmic love

The aircraft is an aerial VLF / ELF platform in the context of the thread so yes they have the capability.

It’s not spraying chemicals it’s dumping fuel.

[passiglight]

With the utmost respect fred

I have not asked you for information regarding the plane fred i have asked you for information and links to the data you have supplied so that ,,,,,,,

a) the average reader can ascertain what you claim are facts and then be checked upon by any individual freely,, in order that they may discern for themselves the context of your content

and,,,,,,,

b) that you make it more clearer and that you differentiate between what you are describing as fact who and what precisely you are quoting,,what is your opinion...

as written down in the guidelines set forth by bill himself.......

Cosmic love...

[Fred259]

With the utmost respect fred

I have not asked you for information regarding the plane fred i have asked you for information and links to the data you have supplied so that ,,,,,,,

a) the average reader can ascertain what you claim are facts and then be checked upon by any individual freely,, in order that they may discern for themselves the context of your content

and,,,,,,,

b) that you make it more clearer and that you differentiate between what you are describing as fact who and what precisely you are quoting,,what is your opinion...

as written down in the guidelines set forth by bill himself.......

Cosmic love...

I’m not quoting anyone or offering an opinion for that matter, earths magnetism was part of a training course I was on years ago, I don’t remember who said what but I do remember the lecture and what we were taught. Is that quite alright.

Now if you want to worry about the earth falling apart, that’s your problem, despite everything that you have uncovered including the British Geological Survey document you for some reason are determined to prove everyone wrong. What’s the problem?

Seriously passinglight that video on the George Norey show was utter rubbish. Noctilucent clouds are miles high; how could they give out toxic gasses. These were the clouds that according to him that “slammed down” of the earth and killed all the animals. The guy didn’t know the difference between a compass degree and a degree of latitude so he just picked the biggest figure in sheer sensationalism. It’s ridiculous.

Tell me, when you go to the dentist for a filling do you ask the dentist to provide all the documentation on the anesthetic he is about to inject into you?

[Mandala]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kWhFv22nB_k

I didn't know if you guys look at all the threads, there are so many. I was reading ascendingstarseeds post and realive they are discussing the same things we are under earth changes/climate.... I thought you folks might like to see the video she posted, interesting. This lady believes they are taking the elite to safe places now. Also, interesting about our 262+ diplomats being called home to Washington for an emergency meeting.

[Tuza]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kWhFv22nB_k

I didn't know if you guys look at all the threads, there are so many. I was reading ascendingstarseeds post and realive they are discussing the same things we are under earth changes/climate.... I thought you folks might like to see the video she posted, interesting. This lady believes they are taking the elite to safe places now. Also, interesting about our 262+ diplomats being called home to Washington for an emergency meeting.

Exactly, all of those diplomats are not being called back for anything except to be told what we are not going to be told.

Note to them: Entering into your bunkers or boarding your arks, or even going into a jump room off planet or one of the off world ships you got are not going to save you if your meant to depart the body, just remember you were told and I would not be confident if I were you on any level.

[Teakai]

I didn't know if you guys look at all the threads, there are so many. I was reading ascendingstarseeds post and realive they are discussing the same things we are under earth changes/climate.... I thought you folks might like to see the video she posted, interesting. This lady believes they are taking the elite to safe places now. Also, interesting about our 262+ diplomats being called home to Washington for an emergency meeting.

This is weird - came across this today.

Apparently there were clusters of smallish earthquakes taking place at Yellowstone - and the USG have removed them. Some people have them downloaded, though.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q74OYaFkwd4

I haven't seen the earth changes thread - maybe I should put it up there - if it isn't there already.

[Fred259]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kWhFv22nB_k

I didn't know if you guys look at all the threads, there are so many. I was reading ascendingstarseeds post and realive they are discussing the same things we are under earth changes/climate.... I thought you folks might like to see the video she posted, interesting. This lady believes they are taking the elite to safe places now. Also, interesting about our 262+ diplomats being called home to Washington for an emergency meeting.

Exactly, all of those diplomats are not being called back for anything except to be told what we are not going to be told.

Note to them: Entering into your bunkers or boarding your arks, or even going into a jump room off planet or one of the off world ships you got are not going to save you if your meant to depart the body, just remember you were told and I would not be confident if I were you on any level.

I agree Tuza and Mandala in Post #162. It’s not because of a possible pole shift, but all this talk is just a distraction, everyone looking the other way. But I do agree with you something is very wrong. This could be a coup d’état. The 9/11 coup d’état failed or did it look at the mess we have been in since 9/11 banking, sub prime, wars, the takedown of the US.

People are saying this has never happened before, every US Ambassador in Washington for a meeting, so who is representing the US throughout the world. When will they return? This is what they did on 9/11; General Henry Shelton was sent overnight to Europe. By the time his plane touched down it had happened. The President was sent to Florida, to read school children a story about a goat.

Questions are asked who stood down the air force on 9/11 Shelton was in Europe, Bush was in Florida, the US military is controlled by the New World Order. Further the US Government is the New World Order. It’s the same in UK and Canada. Canada is now part of the US in the NWO Plan. Democracy was taken at Willie Pictons Pig Farm.

[passiglight]

With the utmost respect fred

I have not asked you for information regarding the plane fred i have asked you for information and links to the data you have supplied so that ,,,,,,,

a) the average reader can ascertain what you claim are facts and then be checked upon by any individual freely,, in order that they may discern for themselves the context of your content

and,,,,,,,

b) that you make it more clearer and that you differentiate between what you are describing as fact who and what precisely you are quoting,,what is your opinion...

as written down in the guidelines set forth by bill himself.......

Cosmic love...

All quotes once again are freds...........

"I’m not quoting anyone or offering an opinion for that matter, earths magnetism was part of a training course I was on years ago, I don’t remember who said what but I do remember the lecture and what we were taught. Is that quite alright."

"Now if you want to worry about the earth falling apart, that’s your problem, despite everything that you have uncovered including the British Geological Survey document you for some reason are determined to prove everyone wrong. What’s the problem?"

"Seriously passinglight that video on the George Norey show was utter rubbish. Noctilucent clouds are miles high; how could they give out toxic gasses. These were the clouds that according to him that “slammed down” of the earth and killed all the animals. The guy didn’t know the difference between a compass degree and a degree of latitude so he just picked the biggest figure in sheer sensationalism. It’s ridiculous".

"Tell me, when you go to the dentist for a filling do you ask the dentist to provide all the documentation on the anesthetic he is about to inject into you?"

Well there you go again fred,,,,,,this article is completely littered with your opinion,,,,,

Fred you do know what an opinion is don't you ? ,,,i mean this most sincerely and genuinely fred as you seem unable to discern between facts and opinions

And please tell me why you think it's appropriate talking to me about the noorey stuff,it had nothing to do with me and i made no comment on it.

I did ask you to substantiate your previous posts which you have conveniently ignored and i did ask you to quote me correctly,,, you have done neither fred.

My request of you to put the source of your material links in here in order that the reader has the opportunity to discern your information for themselves still stands as well

And once again here, fred you are using obscure language to describe an event .........

"I agree Tuza and Mandala in Post #162. It’s not because of a possible pole shift, but all this talk is just a distraction, everyone looking the other way. But I do agree with you something is very wrong. This could be a coup d’état. The 9/11 coup d’état failed or did it look at the mess we have been in since 9/11 banking, sub prime, wars, the takedown of the US."

I have asked that if your desire is to inform on this thread that you keep to the correct terminology instead of confusing and blurring the issue with endless chatter and noise.

I have also stated that you clearly mark your opinions fred instead of attempting to slur or slandering me,,

This comment is a slant on my involvement and perspective on this thread,,,,,,,,,,, ""Now if you want to worry about the earth falling apart"", i ask you therefore once again if you have a personal comment to make with regard to me then i respectfully suggest you PM me in private

Cosmic love to fred et all

[Mandala]

Yes, something is definitely up. Announcement maybe?

Could be something about disclosure
Could be about the devaluation of our glorious dollar
Could be about a natural calamity, but they would first want to make sure everyone that matters is safely tucked away.

This reminds me of those 1960's era nuclear drills where they made us get under our desks and cover our heads to keep us safe from "THE BOMB".
As my buddy Jimmy Buffett says in, "Waiting for the Next Explosion:"

Missing Link Crouched Upon A Promontory Rock
Tryin' To Figure Out His Biological Clock
No One Around To Announce His Arrival
So He's Got To Get To Work On His Sense Of Survival
Oh Oh, It's A Dangerous World

Over In China They Got Smart Real Fast
That's Where They Invented The Man Made Blast
They Lost A Few Infers And Some Bamboo Shacks,
But They Gave Birth To A Tribe Of Pyromaniacs

Oh Oh, It's A Dangerous World
Fire In The Sky, Lava In The Ocean,
Sittin' Round Waitin' For The Next Explosion

Back In The Fifties They Thought It Made Good Sense
To Teach All The School Children About Civil Defense
Don't Be Scared, Do Not Cry,
Just Dive Under Your Desk And Kiss Your Ass Goodbye

Oh Oh, Such A Dangerous World
It Was A Hell Of A Hustle, Paranoia Promotion
Waiting At Ground Zero, For The Next Explosion

Where You Gonna Be
When It Hits The Fan
Got A Plan
What You Gonna Do
If It Lands On You
Where's Your Point Of View



Down At The Beach Club There's A Sales Convention
Night Sky Is The Focus Of That Crowd's Attention
It's No Cosmic Collision Just A Fireworks Show,
But They Feel It In Their Hearts When Those
Concussion Bombs Blow

Oh Oh, Such A Dangerous World
Gunpowder's Louder Than Newton's Laws Of Motion
Everybody's Waitin' For The Next Explosion

Firs In The Sky, Fallin' On The Ocean
Sittin' Round Waitin' For The Next Explosion

[Fred259]

[B][QUOTE]I did ask you to substantiate your previous posts which you have conveniently ignored and i did ask you to quote me correctly,,, you have done neither fred.

My request of you to put the source of your material links in here in order that the reader has the opportunity to discern your information for themselves still stands as well


Perhaps the best way to discuss this would be if you were to highlight those points that you have an issue with.

I have already told you I have a professional qualification which includes the study and of earths magnetism, I am not cutting and pasting as you suggest rather divulging what I was taught.

What don’t you agree with?

[Fred259]

Mandala, I was wondering given you are local what are they saying in the press and the public at large about these ambassadors being summoned home?

[Eric J (Viking)]

:noidea:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=1ZHsBP2srto

viking

[yiolas]

I wonder which is going to come first, the pole shift or comet elenin. Wierd stuff going on guys. It's getting harder every day discerning whats true and what is dis-info. Another thing is, why isn't the main stream talking about any of this stuff ?

We should take it as a given that we are not going to get advance notice about anything coming our way.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zJ7Fzk0vojA&feature=related

[greybeard]

May we live to see our demise smiling
c

[passiglight]

FRED you clearly cut and pasted your material and intermixed it with my material from an earlier post.....

your post #100 is clearly cut and pasted by yourself and you have used bold highlight to distinguish between my material and yours,,, fact

This thread is about geomagnetic field reversal,,, apart from your post #100 you have not given any material that has anything to do with the topic of this thread..

You are completely ignoring my requests to support the information you have supplied with links as to where you got your material from........

Now you are saying ..........".I have already told you I have a professional qualification which includes the study and of earths magnetism, I am not cutting and pasting as you suggest rather divulging what I was taught."

" I have a professional qualification which includes the study and of earths magnetism,",,,,,,,,,well if this is true then why don't you add something of value to the topic of this thread fred ????
instead of causing endless chatter and completely unnecessary noise which doesn't belong in this thread..........


AND WHAT IS MORE YOU HAVE BEEN DOING A VERY SIMILAR THING ON ANOTHER THREAD - "a documentary more powerful than loose change" not only are you attempting to disrupt the flow of this thread but you are creating a pattern of doing the same elsewhere and you appear to be smearing another member of this forum at the same time,, I will now investigate this further fred

Not only am i going to bring this to the attention of the mods but because of your actions here and elsewhere on this site,,,i am of the opinion you are behaving like a dis -info merchant fred

[Fred259]

FRED you clearly cut and pasted your material and intermixed it with my material from an earlier post.....

your post #100 is clearly cut and pasted by yourself and you have used bold highlight to distinguish between my material and yours,,, fact

This thread is about geomagnetic field reversal,,, apart from your post #100 you have not given any material that has anything to do with the topic of this thread..

You are completely ignoring my requests to support the information you have supplied with links as to where you got your material from........

Now you are saying ..........".I have already told you I have a professional qualification which includes the study and of earths magnetism, I am not cutting and pasting as you suggest rather divulging what I was taught."

" I have a professional qualification which includes the study and of earths magnetism,",,,,,,,,,well if this is true then why don't you add something of value to the topic of this thread fred ????
instead of causing endless chatter and completely unnecessary noise which doesn't belong in this thread..........


AND WHAT IS MORE YOU HAVE BEEN DOING A VERY SIMILAR THING ON ANOTHER THREAD - "a documentary more powerful than loose change" not only are you attempting to disrupt the flow of this thread but you are creating a pattern of doing the same elsewhere and you appear to be smearing another member of this forum at the same time,, I will now investigate this further fred

Not only am i going to bring this to the attention of the mods but because of your actions here and elsewhere on this site,,,i am of the opinion you are behaving like a dis -info merchant fred


#100 This was document you posted up. Yes I copied the document within the thread it and highlighted the bits that were clearly relevant to the discussion at that point. I didn’t add anything at all it was a complete document

I did add NB I think the aircraft in Post 97 could perhaps do most of what was discussed in the document. I also added 3 photographs to explain what the text relates to . I agree with everything the report says.

I have been trying to assist you in all aspects of this thread but for some reason known only to yourself you are convinced that a significant movement of magnetic north will be earth shattering, it wont.

As a matter of fact I’m past caring what you think or ponder, but I do care for those reading this thread who are concerned of such events (particularly women) who are worried and concerned about the earth pealing apart like a banana or so called Pole Shift as the media would describe it cant do that its impossible. Any movement of Mag north will have no earth shattering effect on mankind.

Turning to your point about Loose Change. I support the thread yes an aircraft flew over the Pentagon and No it’s impossible for a B757 to ever have entered or hit the building. I am basing this on facts and professional knowledge and experience. I have been flying professionally for 27 years we use compasses all day every day, so magnetism is very important. Don’t worry about what may or may not happen, ships and aircraft use gyro stabilised compasses referenced to true north so even less reason to worry passinglight.

As for your comment about being a disinformation agent, No I say again the magnetic pole shift is just a distraction. 9/11 as we are told is utter rubbish, we now know precisely how it happened, why it happened and the names of those involved. What's really going on and the destruction of the western world as we know it. That’s the most important issue here not pole shifts. Elsewhere on the forum we have Charles passing on information related to the proposal to slaughter 6 billion. That’s the most important issues and those who are behind this proposal not pole shift. If they get their way you aren’t going to be around to worry about whatever should happen to magnetic north.

Maybe it’s you who is the disinformation agent, why 174 post on a load of cobblers..

Page1. #post 15 Bill Ryan.

Hi, Folks:

A magnetic pole shift is not a physical pole shift. It would have effects of all kinds (if it were to happen) - but the Earth does not physically wobble or move at all.

He’s right I pointed this out to you days ago, everything else that has been said on this thread 70% is just wind and wee wee.

[Teakai]

:noidea:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=1ZHsBP2srto

viking


Hi Viking - it seems very much like this David guy is in government employ. I thought he was one of the good guys - but check out this video - it's pretty damning:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=djXmONkvkic

[Teakai]

May we live to see our demise smiling
c

Absolutely - if it's your time to go, go with a smile and a laugh - that's important.
Our culture has been taught to fear this process - it is not fearful - it is simply going home.

:lol: I'm sure that's going to come across as doom and gloom, but it's not meant to be - and I think it's important that people know this.

[Fred259]

:noidea:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=1ZHsBP2srto

viking


Hi Viking - it seems very much like this David guy is in government employ. I thought he was one of the good guys - but check out this video - it's pretty damning:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=djXmONkvkic

Cracking Teaks, it hits the nail on the head, this is the problem around 7,000 government employees have been subverted or bought and are working for the other side. It’s the same in the UK and especially Canada, but what is the situation in Aus?

[passiglight]

FRED you clearly cut and pasted your material and intermixed it with my material from an earlier post.....

your post #100 is clearly cut and pasted by yourself and you have used bold highlight to distinguish between my material and yours,,, fact

This thread is about geomagnetic field reversal,,, apart from your post #100 you have not given any material that has anything to do with the topic of this thread..

You are completely ignoring my requests to support the information you have supplied with links as to where you got your material from........

Now you are saying ..........".I have already told you I have a professional qualification which includes the study and of earths magnetism, I am not cutting and pasting as you suggest rather divulging what I was taught."

" I have a professional qualification which includes the study and of earths magnetism,",,,,,,,,,well if this is true then why don't you add something of value to the topic of this thread fred ????
instead of causing endless chatter and completely unnecessary noise which doesn't belong in this thread..........


AND WHAT IS MORE YOU HAVE BEEN DOING A VERY SIMILAR THING ON ANOTHER THREAD - "a documentary more powerful than loose change" not only are you attempting to disrupt the flow of this thread but you are creating a pattern of doing the same elsewhere and you appear to be smearing another member of this forum at the same time,, I will now investigate this further fred

Not only am i going to bring this to the attention of the mods but because of your actions here and elsewhere on this site,,,i am of the opinion you are behaving like a dis -info merchant fred


#100 This was document you posted up. Yes I copied the document within the thread it and highlighted the bits that were clearly relevant to the discussion at that point. I didn’t add anything at all it was a complete document

I did add NB I think the aircraft in Post 97 could perhaps do most of what was discussed in the document. I also added 3 photographs to explain what the text relates to . I agree with everything the report says.

I have been trying to assist you in all aspects of this thread but for some reason known only to yourself you are convinced that a significant movement of magnetic north will be earth shattering, it wont.

As a matter of fact I’m past caring what you think or ponder, but I do care for those reading this thread who are concerned of such events (particularly women) who are worried and concerned about the earth pealing apart like a banana or so called Pole Shift as the media would describe it cant do that its impossible. Any movement of Mag north will have no earth shattering effect on mankind.

Turning to your point about Loose Change. I support the thread yes an aircraft flew over the Pentagon and No it’s impossible for a B757 to ever have entered or hit the building. I am basing this on facts and professional knowledge and experience. I have been flying professionally for 27 years we use compasses all day every day, so magnetism is very important. Don’t worry about what may or may not happen, ships and aircraft use gyro stabilised compasses referenced to true north so even less reason to worry passinglight.

As for your comment about being a disinformation agent, No I say again the magnetic pole shift is just a distraction. 9/11 as we are told is utter rubbish, we now know precisely how it happened, why it happened and the names of those involved. What's really going on and the destruction of the western world as we know it. That’s the most important issue here not pole shifts. Elsewhere on the forum we have Charles passing on information related to the proposal to slaughter 6 billion. That’s the most important issues and those who are behind this proposal not pole shift. If they get their way you aren’t going to be around to worry about whatever should happen to magnetic north.

Maybe it’s you who is the disinformation agent, why 174 post on a load of cobblers..

Page1. #post 15 Bill Ryan.

Hi, Folks:

A magnetic pole shift is not a physical pole shift. It would have effects of all kinds (if it were to happen) - but the Earth does not physically wobble or move at all.

He’s right I pointed this out to you days ago, everything else that has been said on this thread 70% is just wind and wee wee.



Hi fred hope you don't mind it taken me a while but i have prepared a portfolio documenting evidence of your clear and systematic attempts to give misleading information and also your attempts to dis-info contributors to this forum...if you would like to discuss this further feel free to pm me anytime,,,,,,,,meanwhile i will forward this document to a mod,,,,,

take care

cosmic love

[Tangri]

Is this it?

VtJdfdzrU1s&feature

Well Date does not show matching with follow calculation;

2011:

* Jun 27 Ahead: Switch downlink rate to 160 kbps
* Jun 27 Ahead: End use of 720 kbps on 70 m DSN subnet
* Jul 15 Behind: Switch downlink rate to 160 kbps
* Jul 15 Behind: End use of 720 kbps on 70 m DSN subnet
* Jul 25 Behind: Close approach by comet Elenin
* Mar 18 Messenger - Mercury orbital insertion
* Jul DAWN - Vesta arrival
* Jul 13 Both: HGA calibration

[Fred259]

[QUOTE=passiglight;138462]FRED you clearly cut and pasted your material and intermixed it with my material from an earlier post.....

your post #100 is clearly cut and pasted by yourself and you have used bold highlight to distinguish between my material and yours,,, fact

This thread is about geomagnetic field reversal,,, apart from your post #100 you have not given any material that has anything to do with the topic of this thread..

You are completely ignoring my requests to support the information you have supplied with links as to where you got your material from........

Now you are saying ..........".I have already told you I have a professional qualification which includes the study and of earths magnetism, I am not cutting and pasting as you suggest rather divulging what I was taught."

" I have a professional qualification which includes the study and of earths magnetism,",,,,,,,,,well if this is true then why don't you add something of value to the topic of this thread fred ????
instead of causing endless chatter and completely unnecessary noise which doesn't belong in this thread..........


AND WHAT IS MORE YOU HAVE BEEN DOING A VERY SIMILAR THING ON ANOTHER THREAD - "a documentary more powerful than loose change" not only are you attempting to disrupt the flow of this thread but you are creating a pattern of doing the same elsewhere and you appear to be smearing another member of this forum at the same time,, I will now investigate this further fred

Not only am i going to bring this to the attention of the mods but because of your actions here and elsewhere on this site,,,i am of the opinion you are behaving like a dis -info merchant fred


#100 This was document you posted up. Yes I copied the document within the thread it and highlighted the bits that were clearly relevant to the discussion at that point. I didn’t add anything at all it was a complete document

I did add NB I think the aircraft in Post 97 could perhaps do most of what was discussed in the document. I also added 3 photographs to explain what the text relates to . I agree with everything the report says.

I have been trying to assist you in all aspects of this thread but for some reason known only to yourself you are convinced that a significant movement of magnetic north will be earth shattering, it wont.

As a matter of fact I’m past caring what you think or ponder, but I do care for those reading this thread who are concerned of such events (particularly women) who are worried and concerned about the earth pealing apart like a banana or so called Pole Shift as the media would describe it cant do that its impossible. Any movement of Mag north will have no earth shattering effect on mankind.

Turning to your point about Loose Change. I support the thread yes an aircraft flew over the Pentagon and No it’s impossible for a B757 to ever have entered or hit the building. I am basing this on facts and professional knowledge and experience. I have been flying professionally for 27 years we use compasses all day every day, so magnetism is very important. Don’t worry about what may or may not happen, ships and aircraft use gyro stabilised compasses referenced to true north so even less reason to worry passinglight.

As for your comment about being a disinformation agent, No I say again the magnetic pole shift is just a distraction. 9/11 as we are told is utter rubbish, we now know precisely how it happened, why it happened and the names of those involved. What's really going on and the destruction of the western world as we know it. That’s the most important issue here not pole shifts. Elsewhere on the forum we have Charles passing on information related to the proposal to slaughter 6 billion. That’s the most important issues and those who are behind this proposal not pole shift. If they get their way you aren’t going to be around to worry about whatever should happen to magnetic north.

Maybe it’s you who is the disinformation agent, why 174 post on a load of cobblers..

Page1. #post 15 Bill Ryan.

Hi, Folks:

A magnetic pole shift is not a physical pole shift. It would have effects of all kinds (if it were to happen) - but the Earth does not physically wobble or move at all.

He’s right I pointed this out to you days ago, everything else that has been said on this thread 70% is just wind and wee wee.




Hi fred hope you don't mind it taken me a while but i have prepared a portfolio documenting evidence of your clear and systematic attempts to give misleading information and also your attempts to dis-info contributors to this forum...if you would like to discuss this further feel free to pm me anytime,,,,,,,,meanwhile i will forward this document to a mod,,,,,

Do that..

Don’t suppose whatever you call misleading information may actually be fact…but then how would you know…

[David Dean]

Wow, Dixie -

It's funny and I could be wrong but Wow, Dixie sounds to me like someone I knew on David Ickes forum using the name LadyBird. It wouldn't be the same person would it? And what's with the Eye. People go on about the all seeing Eye and yet I see it everywhere as with this...

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/cpstyles/Breeze/misc/banner.png

And we are talking Symbolism and Illumination.

http://img64.imageshack.us/img64/6668/2312010027.th.jpg

I like most other people on this planet am only trying to seek the truth about what is really happening. People can hide behind avatars and false names till the cows come home. If, like on David Ickes site, you want to ban me from posting don't worry, it will give me more time to myself. Banning people from web sites is a bit like restricting freedom of information isn't it?

Also as these people all seem to work together I was wondering if there is any connection between Myself and Bob Dean, as my name is David Dean. I watched a video where Bob said that he had seen Jesus so, if Bob as seen Jesus does he have a photograph of him so we can all see what he, or is it she looks like. I could be wrong about the she, I'm not quite sure yet.

I'm also not quite sure if Jesus was a Jew. If you look at Jesus and Judean and then take out the U you get Jess as in Jesse (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jesse) and J Dean. I was also thinking about the Garden of Eden and the tree of knowledge. It wouldn't be linked to the Tree of Jesse (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tree_of_Jesse) would it? It might be worth thinking about.

Surly God wouldn't mind people searching for the truth would He/She? All we have are scripts but, are those scripts correct?

I'm sorry this might not be the right place to post all this but, you can split it up and place it in the appropriate places on these forums if you feel fit.

By the way Happy Valentine to Everyone, it's all about having a decent Heart isn't it?

Dixie

[Mandala]

Now I have another possible theory. James Gilliland and George Kavassilas both seem to think something is going on in March, but no mention of a pole shift from either.

In James Gilliland's part 2 of "2011, The Year to End All Years", James stated that a galactive wave was on its way and the biggest wave would be this March. He said the ego would be dismantled, and the veil lifted. We would be able to see Draconian separation and elitist societies imploding. He referred to this as THe Wave of Unity Consciousness. This is worth ~14 or so minutes to gain another perspective.

Now, if I were an elitist,politician or a deceptive Wall Street banker, etc., I would be formulating a plan before the masses knew where to find me. Head for the hills, into that bunker, and lock the 10,000 pound door! No matter what else may happen or be acknowledged, I see some upset masses if the veil is lifted. I wonder if this meeting was part of the first alarm saying,"Oh crap, they are all going to know what we have done."

ps. Fred, haven't heard anything on the news in Florida about the diplomats. Unless it is about Lindsay Lohan or Hollywood, they don't seem to cover it. SAD!

Pretty quiet here, how about for you?

Here is the video from J. Gilliland:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jf1EughO3Jo&feature=related

[Thrasher1218]

It should be noted that thee is a large difference between a shift of the magnetic poles (which is very common and not something to worry about unless you a re a homing pigeon in which case it will take some time to reorient your flight path.)
This is not to be confused with a pole shift involving a shift of the crustal layers. That's the nasty possibility. Listening to some of Alex Jones' commentary, he treats information about the magnetic shift as if it was information on a crustal shift.

[Mandala]

Yes, you are correct. There is a major difference. Some researchers, such as Pattick Geryl, believe it will be a pole shift revesal/severe platatonic shifting with disasterous results, Many researchers believe it will be simply a magnetic shift which is not a big deal in comparison. It is a great topic to research and discuss, lots of possibilities and theories.

[Teakai]

Cracking Teaks, it hits the nail on the head, this is the problem around 7,000 government employees have been subverted or bought and are working for the other side. It’s the same in the UK and especially Canada, but what is the situation in Aus?

I think the Australian government is fairly irrelevant in the grand scheme of things. Past action has shown that they just follow the orders given to them.

[Teakai]

Wow, Dixie -

It's funny and I could be wrong but Wow, Dixie sounds to me like someone I knew on David Ickes forum using the name LadyBird. It wouldn't be the same person would it? And what's with the Eye. People go on about the all seeing Eye and yet I see it everywhere as with this...

And we are talking Symbolism and Illumination.

I like most other people on this planet am only trying to seek the truth about what is really happening. People can hide behind avatars and false names till the cows come home. If, like on David Ickes site, you want to ban me from posting don't worry, it will give me more time to myself. Banning people from web sites is a bit like restricting freedom of information isn't it?
Dixie

Hi Dixie, no, I’m not ladybird, and I’ve never been on David Icke’s forum.

The eye is mine and my girlfriend photo-shopped it and put the tree in – and I liked what she did so I use it.
I have a thing for eyes. If I ever doodle, I draw eyes.


According to a very interesting documentary I watched recently, which made a whole lot of sense – Jesus is Julius Caesar and Cleopatra’s son Caesarian.
If anyone is interested I’ll chase up the documentary. I watched it on you tube. So, just let me know.

[Teakai]

It should be noted that thee is a large difference between a shift of the magnetic poles (which is very common and not something to worry about unless you a re a homing pigeon in which case it will take some time to reorient your flight path.)
This is not to be confused with a pole shift involving a shift of the crustal layers. That's the nasty possibility. Listening to some of Alex Jones' commentary, he treats information about the magnetic shift as if it was information on a crustal shift.

Hi Thrasher - I don't know if you listened to Alex Jones about the pole shift, but, on the first day he was talking about how there was quite a lot to go into and he wanted to spend some time on it and do it justice, and then he talked about it for 15 - 20 minutes and said he'd talk about it properly the next day.

And the next day he pretty much spent 5 minutes saying that the pole shift was nothing to worry about. Maybe not in those words exactly, but it was definitely uninformative.
He spent more time introducing it that he did talking about it. I thought that was weird.

I turned off then - maybe he covered some more about it later and I missed it.

[Teakai]

This is a good example of how and why a pole shift may happen.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vrFrmb5nH80

[David Dean]

Wow, Dixie -

It's funny and I could be wrong but Wow, Dixie sounds to me like someone I knew on David Ickes forum using the name LadyBird. It wouldn't be the same person would it? And what's with the Eye. People go on about the all seeing Eye and yet I see it everywhere as with this...

And we are talking Symbolism and Illumination.

I like most other people on this planet am only trying to seek the truth about what is really happening. People can hide behind avatars and false names till the cows come home. If, like on David Ickes site, you want to ban me from posting don't worry, it will give me more time to myself. Banning people from web sites is a bit like restricting freedom of information isn't it?
Dixie

Hi Dixie, no, I’m not ladybird, and I’ve never been on David Icke’s forum.

The eye is mine and my girlfriend photo-shopped it and put the tree in – and I liked what she did so I use it.
I have a thing for eyes. If I ever doodle, I draw eyes.


According to a very interesting documentary I watched recently, which made a whole lot of sense – Jesus is Julius Caesar and Cleopatra’s son Caesarian.
If anyone is interested I’ll chase up the documentary. I watched it on you tube. So, just let me know.

Sorry if I was mistaken, I for one would be very interested in the documentary you mention so, if you can dig it up (so to speak) I'd be very interested to see it, especially as I lived near Chester which was said to be a major Roman City and possibly the Capital of the UK.

[Fred259]

Wow, Dixie -

It's funny and I could be wrong but Wow, Dixie sounds to me like someone I knew on David Ickes forum using the name LadyBird. It wouldn't be the same person would it? And what's with the Eye. People go on about the all seeing Eye and yet I see it everywhere as with this...

And we are talking Symbolism and Illumination.

I like most other people on this planet am only trying to seek the truth about what is really happening. People can hide behind avatars and false names till the cows come home. If, like on David Ickes site, you want to ban me from posting don't worry, it will give me more time to myself. Banning people from web sites is a bit like restricting freedom of information isn't it?
Dixie

Hi Dixie, no, I’m not ladybird, and I’ve never been on David Icke’s forum.

The eye is mine and my girlfriend photo-shopped it and put the tree in – and I liked what she did so I use it.
I have a thing for eyes. If I ever doodle, I draw eyes.



According to a very interesting documentary I watched recently, which made a whole lot of sense – Jesus is Julius Caesar and Cleopatra’s son Caesarian.If anyone is interested I’ll chase up the documentary. I watched it on you tube. So, just let me know.


Indeed Teaks it would seem so, which is where the word came from. Lies and deception through the ages.

[greybeard]

Marcel Messing mentions this possibility ( a video on Bills threads)

There also a mention on a Coast to Coast audio that I posted on the Enlightenment thread in the spiritual section.
The audio interview of a scientist is in great detail.

He points out something I hadent realised, we , the human race are going into an area of the solar system that we have not been in before.
Planet earth has, at the time the dinosaurs died out.
There is every possibility that planet x is a fact and is being monitored by NASSA.
He goes into detail regarding conversations with people from there.

So in October of this year there is every possibility of a major event.

The audio is in ten parts but well worth down loading

Its a 2012 audio Coast to coast recently posted as said.

Also of interest there is a video on the Maya 9th Wave just started.

Regards Chris

[Teakai]

Sorry if I was mistaken, I for one would be very interested in the documentary you mention so, if you can dig it up (so to speak) I'd be very interested to see it, especially as I lived near Chester which was said to be a major Roman City and possibly the Capital of the UK.

The easiest way to watch the documentary is from this channel: http://www.youtube.com/user/jmaros15#p/u/27/nQ2Pc7fw6UI. There are quite a few parts to it. It's called 'the bloodline of the illuminati who's who' and the whole thing is really interesting and informative, but the part that directly discusses Jesus being Caesarian is here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=499qXcMhTM8

[passiglight]

Actually fred it doesn't matter what you think i know or don't know,,,,,what matters i the readers ability to discern for themselves the content of a contributors postings..


My comments to you are about you behaviour here in this thread and amongst other threads...

I have sent a document to Mr ryan detailing my claims......

He will, i hope, adjudicate apropriatly.



Cosmic love

[Fred259]

Actually fred it doesn't matter what you think i know or don't know,,,,,what matters i the readers ability to discern for themselves the content of a contributors postings..

further more this text written by you is an absolute lie,,,,,,,"

#100 This was document you posted up. Yes I copied the document within the thread it and highlighted the bits that were clearly relevant to the discussion at that point. I didn’t add anything at all it was a complete document"

you added your details to my previous posting and diferentiated my text and yours with bold text,,,,,
Quite simply fred you are lying


My comments to you are about you behaviour here in this thread and amongst other threads...

I have sent a document to Mr ryan detailing my claims......

He will, i hope, adjudicate apropriatly.

Cosmic love

Passinglight. The document posted up by you was most relevant to the discussion. I read it in full and agreed and highlighted the bits that were relevant to the discussion at that time. I also added 3 photographs in my post back to the thread… What is wrong with that? I agree with the post!

Might I suggest it’s perhaps better to post on subjects you know about, Medicine, Computing, Agriculture or whatever background you have, I know very little about these subjects and would be happy to trust your judgment.

I re affirm the public have little to fear in the very very remote chance involving movement of magnetic north. What we now have is 10 pages of half cocked ideas and disinformation rather than clear fact, and as I posted yesterday my concern is particularly from women who think that the earths surface is going to peel apart like a banana. It can’t.

Elsewhere but not on this thread but also on the subject of pole shift a member believe it or not looked at the north pole on Google Earth, which has no polar ice cap because its not a land mass and actually posted that the ice cap had melted and now “brown and green stuff was showing”. ( his words) Can you believe that, its utter madness.

I’m very happy you have posted your concerns with Bill, my own private thoughts are at would be good if Bill did a 5 minute video on this subject putting the matter straight and stopping all this madness.

[passiglight]

Fred i retract my comments made to with regard to calling you a liar and i apologise unreservedly to you for making those comments,,,,,,

I mean this most sincerely i hope you accept my apology to you

As for the rest ,well it lays in bills hands now.............

cosmic love and light to you

[Fred259]

Fred i retract my comments made to with regard to calling you a liar and i apologise unreservedly to you for making those comments,,,,,,

I mean this most sincerely i hope you accept my apology to you

As for the rest ,well it lays in bills hands now.............

cosmic love and light to you

Don’t worry I’m off to Russia, I will find out what they think about the Pole shift, hey they might even be pleased if it shifted! Its -23C in Novosibirsk.

[Mandala]

Marcel Messing mentions this possibility ( a video on Bills threads)

There also a mention on a Coast to Coast audio that I posted on the Enlightenment thread in the spiritual section.
The audio interview of a scientist is in great detail.

He points out something I hadent realised, we , the human race are going into an area of the solar system that we have not been in before.
Planet earth has, at the time the dinosaurs died out.
There is every possibility that planet x is a fact and is being monitored by NASSA.
He goes into detail regarding conversations with people from there.

So in October of this year there is every possibility of a major event.

The audio is in ten parts but well worth down loading

Its a 2012 audio Coast to coast recently posted as said.

Also of interest there is a video on the Maya 9th Wave just started.

Regards Chris

Thank you Chris, I will listen tonight. Mandala

[Teakai]

Don’t worry I’m off to Russia, I will find out what they think about the Pole shift, hey they might even be pleased if it shifted! Its -23C in Novosibirsk.

That made me laugh, Fred. :)

[David Dean]

Sorry if I was mistaken, I for one would be very interested in the documentary you mention so, if you can dig it up (so to speak) I'd be very interested to see it, especially as I lived near Chester which was said to be a major Roman City and possibly the Capital of the UK.

The easiest way to watch the documentary is from this channel: http://www.youtube.com/user/jmaros15#p/u/27/nQ2Pc7fw6UI. There are quite a few parts to it. It's called 'the bloodline of the illuminati who's who' and the whole thing is really interesting and informative, but the part that directly discusses Jesus being Caesarian is here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=499qXcMhTM8

That's an interesting video, funny thing here in Thailand I know somebody by the name of Mark Cameron Sears his wife Aom has just given birth to a baby boy and he is called JC by his father, and in this godly world we live in, his wife came to my house one day wearing a new pair of shoes with the name Mary written on them. I wouldn't know if all this is just coincidence or not as I still can't get my head around what's going on. Also yesterday I finished watching the movie The Robe on You Tube and also Demetrius and the Gladiators (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demetrius_and_the_Gladiators).

I did notice a mistake between the end of The Robe and the start of Demetrius and the Gladiators, in that Caesar was wearing different coloured cloaks. I wonder if that was deliberate or a mistake.

I also notice that both movies featured Michael Rennie (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Rennie) who also stars in War of the Worlds (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_War_of_the_Worlds) and Michael has the same birthday as me.

I also wonder if it's any coincidence the movie involves tigers as in the Eye of the Tiger (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eye_of_the_Tiger).

Also Aom (Marks wife) sounds like Ohm when it's pronounced. As I'm an Electrician it reminds me of Ohm's Law and the Triangle. The Ohm is the unit of Resistance.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/fb/Ohm%27s_law_triangle.svg/130px-Ohm%27s_law_triangle.svg.png

How the above links up I don't know and I'm sorry if I'm taking this thread off topic as I can't think where else to discuss the above. Taking of Pole shift haven't a lot of Poles been shifted to the UK?

[Macka]

Hi everyone

Lately I have taken an interest in this topic of pole shifts,
I have read most of the posts in this forum and have also come to a similar conclusion as most of you.
I have looked at a lot of the sites referred to in this forum relating to this topic and come to the following conclusions.
Firstly, the geological pole shift, if this was to happen then it’s probably all over for most of us.

Secondly, the magnetic pole shift, now this is definitely happening (every one agrees on this fact).
The magnetic poles are on the move and have been since we started measuring them,
There is no consensus that this will or won’t result in full reversal of the magnetic poles.
The magnetic poles are now moving 4 to8 times faster depending on whose data you use.( up to 50 km per year )
The magnetic field has been and is continuing to weaken but no consensus that this will or won’t have an effect in a full reversal.
But, again, no one knows if this is normal or not, there is insufficient data to rely upon.
The other main point is that there is no evidence of any influence by any astral bodies such as planets; comets etc having an effect on the magnetic field that could cause a pole reversal.
The main conclusion of the scientists are based on the fact, there is no evidence.
And the web is full of their statements and arguments that nothing is going to happen because there is no evidence.

IF THERE IS NO EVEIDENCE, HOW CAN YOU COME TO THE CONCLUSION THAT NOTHING IS GOING TO HAPPEN?

THERE‘S NO EVIDENCE TO SAY THE MAGNETIC POLES WON’T REVERSE

After weighing everything up that I have read to date
Here is a summery of what I can recall.
(I should have made notes for references - sorry folks, didn’t know I was going to write this at the time)

There appears to be something affecting global weather patterns and earths changing magnetic field is most likely a contributing factor.
Without getting into the science of it all, a change in the magnetic field has direct links to the weather.( expect more crazy weather if this continues)
There was a report of tears in the magnetosphere in one article I read and if this was true then this could result in possible higher levels of cancer or DNA damage.( This would not affect everyone)
There was also mention of the Comet Elinin (c/2010 X1) in some of the posts and there is very little on the web about this comet.
It was found by a Russian in Dec 2010.
(very strange NASA didn’t see this before this guy?- check out his telescope)
The latest info is that is will pass extremely close to earth in Oct 2011.
The comet, earth and the sun will be in alignment on March the 15th 2011 as it approaches us and this is the reported date for a pole shift.
I didn’t read it as a full reversal, I understood it as a part flip.
There was also reference to this alignment last year having a connection to the big earthquake in Chile.
Comet Elinin (if it is a comet?) would have to be pretty big for it to have a gravitational affect on us back then.( I don’t know how big it is?)
Maybe there is more to this comet than we are being allowed to know?
I found 5 sites but all had very little to say including nasa.
It is strange how little info there is on this comet considering its importance.
On the 15th march 2010 when the comet, earth and the sun align there is also an asteroid coming very close to earth.(I think it is 2000 PN9)
I have unfortunately forgotten more than I can remember.
I don’t know if there is going to be a pole shift of any kind but I do intend on keeping a eye on the information that comes to light.
There is more than enough evidence for me to think I should not totally dismiss the idea of a pole shift.

[Teakai]

Marcel Messing mentions this possibility ( a video on Bills threads)

There also a mention on a Coast to Coast audio that I posted on the Enlightenment thread in the spiritual section.
The audio interview of a scientist is in great detail.

He points out something I hadent realised, we , the human race are going into an area of the solar system that we have not been in before.
Planet earth has, at the time the dinosaurs died out.
There is every possibility that planet x is a fact and is being monitored by NASSA.
He goes into detail regarding conversations with people from there.

So in October of this year there is every possibility of a major event.

The audio is in ten parts but well worth down loading

Its a 2012 audio Coast to coast recently posted as said.

Also of interest there is a video on the Maya 9th Wave just started.

Regards Chris

That was good listening, Greybeard. Thanks :)

[Teakai]

The comet, earth and the sun will be in alignment on March the 15th 2011 as it approaches us and this is the reported date for a pole shift.
I didn’t read it as a full reversal, I understood it as a part flip.
There was also reference to this alignment last year having a connection to the big earthquake in Chile.
Comet Elinin (if it is a comet?) would have to be pretty big for it to have a gravitational affect on us back then.( I don’t know how big it is?)
Maybe there is more to this comet than we are being allowed to know?
I found 5 sites but all had very little to say including nasa.
It is strange how little info there is on this comet considering its importance.
On the 15th march 2010 when the comet, earth and the sun align there is also an asteroid coming very close to earth.(I think it is 2000 PN9)
I have unfortunately forgotten more than I can remember.
I don’t know if there is going to be a pole shift of any kind but I do intend on keeping a eye on the information that comes to light.
There is more than enough evidence for me to think I should not totally dismiss the idea of a pole shift.

Hi Macka - I read that Comet Elenin was 4 times the size of Jupiter, but I haven't found anything official to back that up so it may just be rumour.

I, too, can't see how Elenin would be responsible for the earthquake in Chile. I think once it's gotten close enough for the magnetic fields to start to influence earth then they'll have a continuous effect until the comet moves out of range again.

But then, maybe it did, maybe it was the shift that caused the earthquake rather than the other way around. But then, it would seem to me there would be more effect than just the earthquake in Chile.

[Mandala]

Teak, just saw this, could be responsible for some of the elctromagnetic goings-on and comet related. Started a thread about in the Astronomy section. 2/15/11

You know how you sometimes can sense that something is present even though you can't see it? Well, astronomers are getting that feeling about a giant, hidden object in space.

And when we say giant, we mean GIANT.

Evidence is mounting that either a brown dwarf star or a gas giant planet is lurking at the outermost reaches of our solar system, far beyond Pluto. The theoretical object, dubbed Tyche, is estimated to be four times the size of Jupiter and 15,000 times farther from the sun than Earth, according to a story in the British paper The Independent.

Astrophysicists John Matese and Daniel Whitmire from the University of Louisiana at Lafayette think data from NASA's infrared space telescope WISE will confirm Tyche's existence and location within two years.

The presence of such a massive object in the solar system's far-flung Oort Cloud could explain a barrage of comets from an unexpected direction, according to a December article at Space.com.

Its 27 million-year orbit could also explain a pattern of mass extinctions on Earth, scientists say.

Brown dwarfs are cold "failed" stars; their dimness and lack of heat radiation can make them hard to detect. Gas giants are huge planets – like Saturn, Jupiter and Neptune – that are made up of gases and may lack a solid surface like Earth's.

Whitmire told The Independent that Tyche will probably be composed of hydrogen and helium and have colorful spots, bands and clouds like Jupiter.

"You'd also expect it to have moons," he said. "All the outer planets have them."

Tyche was first hypothesized in 1984 as Nemesis, a dark companion star to the sun. It's been the subject of astronomical research and debate ever since. In July, another Space.com article said the celestial evidence suggests Tyche could not possibly exist.

To distinguish it from the Nemesis star theory, Matese and Whitmire are calling their object Tyche, after the good sister of the goddess Nemesis in Greek mythology.

Their research is published in Icarus, the International Journal of Solar System Studies.

[passiglight]

Thought you might be interested in this folks,,,well " You know how you sometimes can sense that something is present even though you can't see it?"

Well,,,,,,,,

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z7agsUEcclY


Perhaps if someone has google sky could they confirm this ??,,,,,,,,

And furthermore ,,,,,,,

could the above missing suspect possibly have anything to do with this ???,,,,,,,,,


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qNnn6RCgG50&feature=related

I'm thinking that if Niburu is in our neighbour hood,,, well,, is it possible ??

Could it really pull the earth round by its magnetic dog collar ??

is that really possible ? because if niburu's presence is being felt already by Mrs earth, then by definition we're in for a serious walk round the proverbial solar park.

And if that is possible then surely niburu will also take the magnetosphere for a walk round the park as well..

Cosmic love

[jjl]

any practical advice for survival folks?

[passiglight]

any practical advice for survival folks?

ERM,,,, plent of galvanised steel covering the teepee ???

[jjl]

any practical advice for survival folks?

ERM,,,, plent of galvanised steel covering the teepee ???

Jeez Pass, that's the bst you got?:p

[Teakai]

I'm having a hard time trying to keep up with all these planets/comets/dwarfs that are out there right now.

Is Tyche, Hercolubus, Niburu, Elenin, planet X and Wormwood all the same thing? I look on the NASA site and my eyes (and brain) just glaze over with all the numbers.

Found this for sizing. What the heck is that behind the low mass star?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UIyaSMPp18k


This is the site the picture and article are from: http://news.blogs.cnn.com/2011/02/15/scientists-telescope-hunt-massive-hidden-object-in-space/

Thanks Passiglight. Good find on the blackout. (Or rmaybe not so good.)

[Setras]

could be an average star like the sun.... there are things way bigger than even that

[Mandala]

Thought you might be interested in this folks,,,well " You know how you sometimes can sense that something is present even though you can't see it?"

Well,,,,,,,,

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z7agsUEcclY


Perhaps if someone has google sky could they confirm this ??,,,,,,,,

And furthermore ,,,,,,,

could the above missing suspect possibly have anything to do with this ???,,,,,,,,,


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qNnn6RCgG50&feature=related

I'm thinking that if Niburu is in our neighbour hood,,, well,, is it possible ??

Could it really pull the earth round by its magnetic dog collar ??

is that really possible ? because if niburu's presence is being felt already by Mrs earth, then by definition we're in for a serious walk round the proverbial solar park.

And if that is possible then surely niburu will also take the magnetosphere for a walk round the park as well..

Cosmic love

Passinglight, I've seen the big old black box with my own eyes. See mystery object in space, post 2.

Great video, by the way. Good find.

[Mandala]

Also, this was an interesting video, no scientific backup, just heartfelt sincerity, from a guy who has had visions. Got the impression he may have been a past marine. The reason I'm posing this is because I have repeated dreams of watching the wall of water, this huge tsunami coming toward Florida. I live 20 min from the coast, west of Ft. Lauderdale.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s9HdSuzRBEI&NR=1

[Teakai]

could be an average star like the sun.... there are things way bigger than even that

I was tempted to make a very bad joke about the global economic debt then - but I'm not going to.

[Teakai]

Also, this was an interesting video, no scientific backup, just heartfelt sincerity, from a guy who has had visions. Got the impression he may have been a past marine. The reason I'm posing this is because I have repeated dreams of watching the wall of water, this huge tsunami coming toward Florida. I live 20 min from the coast, west of Ft. Lauderdale

I think it's the US $50 note that can be folded in such a way (like an upside down pyramid) and it shows water gushing over the tops of buildings.
I can't try it because I don't have a note - but maybe someone could give it a go.
I tried googling, but didn't get anything that didn't come with pop-ups.

[normam2]

I dont want to suggest bad things are going to happened but lately (this past week) I've been feeling like a gut feeling that something negative has finally been put into play. That preparations have been finalized and its now ready to start working per se. Last night I had a dream (I have to admit my dreams look like a blockbuster movie which kind off sucks as times) where I was outside my apt with a friend at night. Somehow we were waiting underneath a light post just waiting there and suddenly I felt fear , as if something bad was on its way. As I felt this the light post started to flicker and it was then that i decided i had to move and go somewhere safe. I wanted to move away faster but i found myself walking instead , the more I moved away the faster the light post started to flicker. The feeling that something bad was heading my way was starting to make me physically uncomfortable and in that same moment someone or something said "It has started". Seconds later I heard a noise/ alarm coming from what look like a UFO , it was heading to my city and as it did it started to destroy things that got on its way. Somehow we ended up hiding from all the hysteria going on outside and I eventually woke up.
I dont think this has to do with the possible false flag attack, it felt like something regarding our world had been given the green light and it wasnt necessarily good. Has anyone felt this vibe these past couple of weeks?

[Teakai]

Thought I'd post here also that the USGS have done it again and yesterday removed earthquake recordings at Yellowstone from its public records:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BzopfsMLnRk

[passiglight]

Looks like niburu may be bringing some friends to the party ,,,,,,,,

http://www.sott.net/articles/show/128992-Forget-About-Global-Warming-We-re-One-Step-From-Extinction-

cosmic love

[Teakai]

Looks like niburu may be bringing some friends to the party ,,,,,,,,

http://www.sott.net/articles/show/128992-Forget-About-Global-Warming-We-re-One-Step-From-Extinction-

cosmic love

Well...Yellowstone and the New Madrid Fault pale in comparison.

Speaking of the New Madrid Faultline - there have been fifteen 2 - 3+ earthquakes there in the past 24 or so hours.

[kevlar]

Beware the ides of march - Pole shift-
There are 3 things i want to point out about this statement, taking into account the 911 reference in the simpsons-

1,in the episode called thank-god-it’s-doomsday http://www.watchcartoononline.com/the-simpsons-season-16-episode-19-thank-god-it%E2%80%99s-doomsday
When homer is predicting the end of the world(at about 7:38 on video)he works it out as -3150518 which he interprets as 3:15 on May 18 and he gets it wrong,

3:15 could be interpreted as 15 march!

2,in the episode -homer-the-great http://www.watchcartoononline.com/the-simpsons-season-6-episode-12-homer-the-great
This episode is completely about the masons (stone cutters)
Right in the middle of the episode Lisa says "Beware the ides of march"(at16:00 on vid)

3 -Charles master = st germain = Francis Bacon, who some believe (wiki) may have written the shakespearean plays- "Beware the ides of march"

love kevlar

not sure if this is right place for this

[passiglight]

Beware the ides of march - Pole shift-
There are 3 things i want to point out about this statement, taking into account the 911 reference in the simpsons-

1,in the episode called thank-god-it’s-doomsday http://www.watchcartoononline.com/the-simpsons-season-16-episode-19-thank-god-it%E2%80%99s-doomsday
When homer is predicting the end of the world(at about 7:38 on video)he works it out as -3150518 which he interprets as 3:15 on May 18 and he gets it wrong,

3:15 could be interpreted as 15 march!

2,in the episode -homer-the-great http://www.watchcartoononline.com/the-simpsons-season-6-episode-12-homer-the-great
This episode is completely about the masons (stone cutters)
Right in the middle of the episode Lisa says "Beware the ides of march"(at16:00 on vid)

3 -Charles master = st germain = Francis Bacon, who some believe (wiki) may have written the shakespearean plays- "Beware the ides of march"

love kevlar

not sure if this is right place for this

All depends on who your post is directed at

[kevlar]

Hi passiglight
post is not directed at anyone in particular, its just an observation i made, being new to posting thought i would post here as i thought it was most the relevant thread, was i wrong?

love kevlar

[yiolas]

Hi Kevlar, This spot is good as any on the forumn to post info. about pole shift. Interesting that we now have the Simpsons thrown into the mix.
I will check it out. Thanks

[passiglight]

Hi passiglight
post is not directed at anyone in particular, its just an observation i made, being new to posting thought i would post here as i thought it was most the relevant thread, was i wrong?

love kevlar

Hi Kevlar i find it difficult to understand what you mean by connecting homer to pole shift,,,and i don't quite get how that translates to charles which is why i made the comment "all depends who your post is directed at",,, you see i cannot make any connection with what you have written to what is the topic of this thread, so i just assumed you were directing your comments to someone else maybe viewing the thread, which can happen sometimes...

Perhaps if you would be kind enough to illuminate me and or the readers how you have made, or, come to your your conclusions, i and others would be able to clearly see the point you are making, which i'm sure is a very valid helpfull point.

Yes i agree with you also that even after making 6 posts and being a member here for 6 weeks or so, its still takes a while to work out what to post and where.

I think if you can find an interesting parallel between your observations and your connections it would be a very interesting read.

Thank you very much, look forward to hearing from you soon,,

take care my friend and cosmic love to you

[Teakai]

I think maybe the elites are using the Simpsons to let the masses know subliminally what's coming - due to the ritual that they have to let us know.

The Ides of March is relevant because the planet/comet/whatever is meant to then be in a position which will cause the first of the pole shifts.

Francis Bacon is relevant because, by order of King James he 'rewrote' the KJ version of the bible in the 16th century. Both were 33 degree Masons - so they knew what was what in this occult power that is running society today.
The Ides of March is seen as a very portentious date. Homer guessed the date as the 18th, but got it wrong. I'm guessing it's because it was wong, because it's the 15th.

I think that's what the whole 2012 thing is - a misleading date. It seems to me that it's all happening in 2011.

Going to watch the Simpsons now and see what I can see see see.

[jjl]

Beware the ides of march - Pole shift-
There are 3 things i want to point out about this statement, taking into account the 911 reference in the simpsons-

1,in the episode called thank-god-it’s-doomsday http://www.watchcartoononline.com/the-simpsons-season-16-episode-19-thank-god-it%E2%80%99s-doomsday
When homer is predicting the end of the world(at about 7:38 on video)he works it out as -3150518 which he interprets as 3:15 on May 18 and he gets it wrong,

3:15 could be interpreted as 15 march!

2,in the episode -homer-the-great http://www.watchcartoononline.com/the-simpsons-season-6-episode-12-homer-the-great
This episode is completely about the masons (stone cutters)
Right in the middle of the episode Lisa says "Beware the ides of march"(at16:00 on vid)

3 -Charles master = st germain = Francis Bacon, who some believe (wiki) may have written the shakespearean plays- "Beware the ides of march"

love kevlar

not sure if this is right place for this

All depends on who your post is directed at

dont let propaganda fear bully you!

[kevlar]

Hi passiglight
I have only posted 6 times in 6 weeks because I only feel the need to post when I can't find anyone else saying what I am thinking.

About three years ago I discovered torrents and as an experiment I tried to download the simpsons movie but instead downloaded 'Loose change' which ultimately lead to my awakening (that will teach me) hence the fascination with the simpsons.
An obvious reference to 911 appeared in the simpsons well before 911 happened. I think they release the info before to increase their black magic powers.
If you look on wiki at St Gemain who Charles claims is his master it says that in a previous incarnation he may have been Francis Bacon therefore I am speculating that Charles master may have actually written the phrase 'beware the ides of March'.

Maybe he was trying to give us a four hundred year in advance warning.

Love kevlar

[Bill Ryan]

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Dear All -

I'm amazed this thread is still going! :)

There will not be a pole shift in March.

Please see my earlier post here (on p.1)

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?13344-Pole-Shift-Sooner-than-later&p=124407&viewfull=1#post124407

... pointing out that magnetic pole movement (which happens all the time, and is happening now) is not in any way at all the same as a physical pole shift.

[kevlar]

Hi Bill
Is it possible that there is something planned for or known about 15 march, year unknown.

love kevlar

[slvrfx]

3 -Charles master = st germain = Francis Bacon, who some believe (wiki) may have written the shakespearean plays- "Beware the ides of march"




I don't know if St Germain and Francis Bacon were one and the same, maybe ask Charles, but according to my sources, Francis Bacon was writing under the pen name, William Shakespeare. (There actually existed a man by the name of W. Shakespeare, who was in actuality an illiterate).

Bacon was also head of a secret society dubbed, the Spear-Shakers, and also at the head of a group that translated the King James version of the Bible, which is, by-the-way, encrypted.

(I see in post 223, info about the King James translation of the Bible. Sorry for the repeat.)

[passiglight]

This only my humble opinion and should be completely disregarded.

Hi Kevlar,

Thank you and thank you teakai,now i get the drift here.

I have researched charles's master very thoroughly and i think i can trace him back for 30k more or less and to be honest i don't trust him one bit,, but then why should i ??

He's done nothing to install my trust in him, and i doubt he gives a rats arse about us, he just wants to look good when the big guys turn up.

IMO he's had his chance to warn us and thousands of years to do the right thing,,, and i think he's blown it, big style !!

If you ask me i'd say his and the other families game is up, and this is just the last throws of their political dice.

Yes i agree about the bacon stuff,but imo the only people he's ever gonna warn are his own (bloodline) and certainly not us. and furthermore i see nothing in the simpsons that ties in with any geomagnetic field reversal,or,,,,, a geotopical pole shift (lol i think i just made a word up!!)

Yes it could be said that one could tie the simpsons in with a cataclysmic event,, possible earthquakes and although geomagnetic field reversals theoretically could be tied in with earthquakes and massive geophysical upheaval leading to mass extinction events i don't quite see that here, and certainly not in the simpsons......

However in saying that, it's quite credible that HAARP could be heavily involved here and also, or, the effects of the sun and solar activity could have a lot more to do with it, and that TPTB are capitalizing on these unstable conditions.

Also, this business with comet elenin does not seem to have had any effect on the magnetic field yet nor does it look like it's going to. The projected path of the comet just doesn't seem to come close enough. Unless of course NASA is lying,(snigger, snigger)

If you asked me elenin is just a marker, an event, for the timing of events to begin or should i say accelerate..

By the way, it looks like today should be called earthquake day,,, according to my feeds,,, and i am using Equake, intellicast, RSOE and USGS, (and between all 4 of those sites i get some kind of balance) there is sooooooo many quakes today i cannot even count them !!!

Of course these earthquakes could just be tied in with the growing or expanding planet theory.

Also i am reading that a lot of the alternative forums seem to have been given 2 day warnings of events really stepping up,,,,icecold thinks these could be kids/pranksters,,which i have no evidence to support or deny his thoughts.

But they could also be a part of a very big picture unfolding or not.

If they are real warnings,, then i guess it's safe to say,, the PTB are using HAARP to capitilize on the current unstable conditions here now.

I also think,,,,,,,this business with planet x or nibiru or any of the myriad of names this planet/dead star seems to have is a critical factor here..

Although for now it seems to be too far away for it to have any real effect, it looks like it carries or drags along with it, what appears to be a whole bunch of meteors and cosmic debris which brings with it the possibility for more than normal inbound earth activity, as has appeared to be the case over the last few months.

This could be quite interesting as i guess the possibility of a large-ish object happening to land in a a major city could be more likely than usual.

However once this massive planet/star (planet x) does get closer it looks like it will have a huge impact on the geophysical landscape, because not only of the gravitational pull this huge object will have but also because of the magnetic influence it may possibly have on earths own magnetic field and core.

Once again i cannot see what this has to do with homer and co, but fair enough if you guys think so,, then i'll roll with that...

Another factor which has been raised just lately is this business with our solar system and galaxy entering unknown parts of the universe or space that may also impact on conditions here on earth.

Combining that with the path of our orbit through denser areas of local spacetime, i have no idea what effects this has on us but they are all mitigating factors.

As i see it,,, we know roughly whats happening here on this lovely planet and it doesn't look good.

There is no reason for fear or trepidation, if we go, we go,, we head back to SOURCE, where i'm sure we will all think twice before volunteering for another crazy escapade on some poxy planet is some dumb arse part of the universe. No matter what or how much we have to learn in this game of eternal existence.

Do not show these ruling bas***** fear, be brave and true to ourselves and know that whatever happens is for reasons we can not comprehend right now.

Have faith and love in SOURCE and for our fellow friends families and every living thing and most importantly have love for mrs earth,, she is a living being, and so are her neighbours including old mrs shiny up there.

My dream (and i'm sure everyone else's is that we could all have the opportunity to become 4'5 dimensional beings and at least fulfil some of the potential of our DNA and that TPTB were ALL good people who would help and encourage that scenario, but that isn't the case and who knows how all this will pan out.

Personally i think ET should have stepped in years ago and sorted this bloody awful situation out.

But once again,,no,,, they like to play political agendas and purport this BS of non interference.

Whatever,,,,,,,who am i to comment on these things ? ,, i am no one,,,, i have blood and am tied to an unusual line,,which gives the greys the excuse to stick their noses in whenever they feel like it,, but apart from that i am you and we are one, the good the bad the indifferent.

I love you all and for the first time in my life,,,,,,,,i love myself too,,,,,,,

whatever that may be lmao

Cosmic Love

[yiolas]

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Dear All -

I'm amazed this thread is still going! :)

There will not be a pole shift in March.

Please see my earlier post here (on p.1)

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?13344-Pole-Shift-Sooner-than-later&p=124407&viewfull=1#post124407

... pointing out that magnetic pole movement (which happens all the time, and is happening now) is not in any way at all the same as a physical pole shift.

Thanks for your input Bill. Seeing that pole shift is on peoples minds these days, wheather magnetic or physical, this is what I have to say on the matter:

[QUOTE][What is the "Ides of March" and why should anyone beware the date holding such bad news and omens?

The warning was first given to the Roman Emperor Julius Caesar, whose empire stretched throughout the known world. As Caesar's power grew, so did the number of his enemies who secretly plotted the emperor's fatal comeuppance.

The date they chose was March 15th, the Ides of March 44 BC.

/QUOTE] Source:Ides of March (http://www.chiff.com/a/ides-of-march.htm)

[slvrfx]

Maybe it's articles like this one that get us confused. The North Pole heading towards Russia and effecting equipment reliant on advance 'compass' technology, not functioning correctly.

http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2011/01/06/magnetic-north-pole-shifts-forces-closure-florida-airport/

"Tampa International Airport was forced to readjust its runways Thursday to account for the movement of the Earth's magnetic fields, information that pilots rely upon to navigate planes. Thanks to the fluctuations in the force, the airport has closed its primary runway until Jan. 13 to change taxiway signs to account for the shift, the Federal Aviation Administration said.

The poles are generated by movements within the Earth's inner and outer cores, though the exact process isn't exactly understood. They're also constantly in flux, moving a few degrees every year, but the changes are almost never of such a magnitude that runways require adjusting, said Paul Takemoto, a spokesman for the FAA."

[gripreaper]

Here, watch this. The energetic pulse coming from the black hole of this galaxy is now measured to be 6000 degrees and is headed this way, according to Pane Andov, who has collaborated with some of the greatest scientists on the planet and has collated the most comprehensive and recent research. There are 8 parts and the first three parts are background and part four starts with "so it's heading our way". This 6000 degree mass supposedly will cause massive solar flares and cause a pole shift. This is now confirmed science, not some New Age mumbo jumbo theory.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kZRrKi99mno&feature=related

[Teakai]

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Dear All -

I'm amazed this thread is still going! :)

There will not be a pole shift in March.

Please see my earlier post here (on p.1)

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?13344-Pole-Shift-Sooner-than-later&p=124407&viewfull=1#post124407

... pointing out that magnetic pole movement (which happens all the time, and is happening now) is not in any way at all the same as a physical pole shift.

Thanks, Bill, but I think this is a subject where none of us really know what's going to happen. There is reasonable evidence to suggest that a huge incoming object may very well effect the magnetic poles of the earth.

I guess we each draw our own conclusion as to the possibilities. It may not happen - but anyone who tells me it's definitely not going to happen, I figure that's likely a matter of wishful thinking rather than definite knowledge.
:)

[Eric J (Viking)]

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Dear All -

I'm amazed this thread is still going! :)

There will not be a pole shift in March.

Please see my earlier post here (on p.1)

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?13344-Pole-Shift-Sooner-than-later&p=124407&viewfull=1#post124407

... pointing out that magnetic pole movement (which happens all the time, and is happening now) is not in any way at all the same as a physical pole shift.

Thanks, Bill, but I think this is a subject where none of us really know what's going to happen. There is reasonable evidence to suggest that a huge incoming object may very well effect the magnetic poles of the earth.

I guess we each draw our own conclusion as to the possibilities. It may not happen - but anyone who tells me it's definitely not going to happen, I figure that's likely a matter of wishful thinking rather than definite knowledge.
:)

Yes Teakai you are correct...

The more I research this topic, the more I believe that we have an object out there that has in the past disrupted our planet and caused massive earth changes...and if this is object is getting closer then why wouldn't it cause a physical pole shift??...there is ample evidence to suggest we have had this type of disruption in the past...

Nibiru, What NASA Knows & You Don't
http://coupmedia.org/planet-x-nibiru/nibiru-what-nasa-knows-you-don-t-0702

viking

[Teakai]

Thanks, Viking.

Interestingly NASA shut down it's WISE spacecraft last Thursday.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/41654555/ns/technology_and_science-space/

[Mandala]

Bill, l appreciate your input very much, seeing that I not only highly respect you, but think of you as a dear friend I've never met, face to face.

However, I feel you are perturbed a bit that this thread is still going on. Do you know something we don't, or something you are not at liberty to discuss? You seem positive there is nothing to worry about in March. Thank goodness.

You seem clear there will not be a geophysical pole shift at all. Do you know this to be true? During your discussions with Charles, did he ever allude to any earth catastrophies and the elite's preparation for them? I do remember, he said we were a binary system, so I assume they are well aware of everything. Can you share anything else with us?

Our Avalon group and others like us, may be the only ones to give anyone a heads up. Would you leave the California coast if you knew something would be impacting it?

There may not be a geophysical pole shift, but this thread has lead to much discussion that something is definitely happening.

Something is being tracked, and if it comes close enough to earth it may impact earth's geomagnetics, possibly having effects on vulcanism and earthquake activity. There is also a possibility that google has blocked the location view of the, or one of the items being tracked.

Maybe not a pole shift, but something else that could impact many. I think the initial rumor has spun off into a little research project where we are trying to decipher what is known and the possible cause/effect. Could it affect costal areas, new madrid fault zone, etc.?

From your expert point of view, what should be our next move?

[Eric J (Viking)]

I would say that if anyone here has any type of knowledge pertaining to this subject, then it would be their duty to spread whatever information thay might have. We are all big enough to accept what might be approaching, and in any case folk can decide what to do regarding personal situations.

We cannot deny that we are experiencing massive earth changes at the moment, no matter what diversery tactics the ptw put in front of us. Is the cat out of the bag?

viking

[Icecold]

I think all the information is in....to date.

There is a comet out there. There often is.

The comet, also known as C/2007 Q3, was discovered in 2007 by observers in Australia. It made a close approach to Earth in October 2009 and is now heading back toward the outer reaches of the solar system.


http://msnbcmedia2.msn.com/j/MSNBC/Components/Slideshows/_production/ss-100217-wise/ss-100217-wise-03.grid-9x2.jpg



We are still here.


Even if the approaching comet comes close it does not mean the end of things.

I don't have a dread feeling about MAR 15.

Do any of the psychics or channelers have anything further to add?


The big problem will be Tyche, not a comet IMO.

[slvrfx]

Aha-aha! The magnetic north is definitely shifting. Adjust your GPS, compasses, etc.


"Magnetic north, the point at the top of the Earth that determines compass headings, is shifting its position at a rate of about 40 miles per year. In geologic terms, it's racing from the Arctic Ocean near Canada toward Russia.

As a result, everyone who uses a compass, even as a backup to modern GPS navigation systems, needs to be aware of the shift, make adjustments or obtain updated charts to ensure they get where they intend to go, authorities say. That includes pilots, boaters and even hikers."


http://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/local/fl-magnetic-north-shift-20110218,0,2819271.story


"You could end up a few miles off or a couple hundred miles off, depending how far you're going," said Matthew Brock, a technician with Lauderdale Speedometer and Compass..."

[Teakai]

I think all the information is in....to date.

There is a comet out there. There often is.

The comet, also known as C/2007 Q3, was discovered in 2007 by observers in Australia. It made a close approach to Earth in October 2009 and is now heading back toward the outer reaches of the solar system.


http://msnbcmedia2.msn.com/j/MSNBC/Components/Slideshows/_production/ss-100217-wise/ss-100217-wise-03.grid-9x2.jpg



We are still here.


Even if the approaching comet comes close it does not mean the end of things.

I don't have a dread feeling about MAR 15.

Do any of the psychics or channelers have anything further to add?


The big problem will be Tyche, not a comet IMO.

Hi Ice cold, I think the issue is that Elenin isn't a comet, but a brown dwarf.

[truthseekerdan]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eyij_LuL2cw

[Humble Janitor]

The Planet X/Niburu/Tyche/Elenin conspiracy is something that just keeps evolving every time new information is put out.

There's a huge movement on ATS to discredit anyone who posts information regarding this subject.

I've heard that you need to use infrared technology just to view this brown dwarf.

[Eric J (Viking)]

Update from Lucas...

http://www.coasttocoastam.com/show/2011/02/21

Viking

[truthseekerdan]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iMjLCp6AHz4

[Teakai]

More foreshadowing?

Is Tyche - Tycus of the movie?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pXREZ4D4NiE

[Teakai]

I don't have a dread feeling about MAR 15.

Do any of the psychics or channelers have anything further to add?



Forgot to say - maybe it's not something to dread - from a spiritual perspective, I mean.

[MariaDine]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ij62WVDCuaU&NR=1

In this video, among several references made about current «affairs» , there is also one about the so called ,shift.
PS - Take it as you will.

Namasté

[truthseekerdan]

For those interested in researching Planet X, here is a good place to start: http://planetx-hercolubus-nibiru.blogspot.com/


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gQlwbRfrd2o

[Mandala]

Alex Jones discussion on poles.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UsoHtOWhz2w&feature=related

[passiglight]

Maybe this is why Bill is so confident of the effect of the solar activity energy not impacting on us .......

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?10248-THE-RULERS-OF-THE-WORLD-Questions-and-Answers&p=88224&viewfull=1#post88224

and if you scroll down to post 171 James Horak explaining these EMV's

AND whitestars thread here ,,....

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?14605-Can-We-TRUST-CHARLES-Our-REAL-HISTORY-and-the-E.T.-INVASION-*LIE*

Post 5,,,,,,,this is very very interesting