Flouridation of water voted in. (So angry!!)

[Lucid Jia]

The forced medication of our water supply with Sodium fluoride was just voted in by our "trusted" council members where I am living (mabey not much longer) in Northern rivers, NSW, Australia.

So who are these people that do this to us? Are they just naive and really believe that fluoride is harmless and is needed for healthy teeth. Are they ruthless business people that see a profit potential and don't really care what happens to us? Are they weak sheep that are just obeying a higher order and just want to keep their snug job? Or are the evil psychopaths that have an agenda and know full well what they are doing to us ? Beats me.

This has really got to me and I am left wondering what I can do. I'm sure as hell not going to drink the tap water here anymore. But what about all my friends and the general public around me that have no idea what they are about to start ingesting and what it will do to them in the long term.

This seem very backwards to me as allot of countries have banned the use of fluoride in the water. Also it is in nearly everyone toothpaste already so why does the council feel the need to give us a double dose??

So, any suggestions on what I can do to either try and fight this or inform the public? Maybe it is to late as fluoride is known to make people docile and sheep like..... sigh!

I was thinking of sending each council member a list of horrible facts about fluoride and then demand a justification of why they voted for this but I'm sure that wouldn't help and they would just ignore me.

Any thoughts, comments or suggestions?

Namste, Jia.

[Swanny]

I was thinking of sending each council member a list of horrible facts about fluoride and then demand a justification of why they voted for this but I'm sure that wouldn't help and they would just ignore me.
Better than doing nothing. But sounds like you need to get yourself a place with a well. Good luck

[Jacqui D]

Good luck lucid but i am not sure it would make a difference, to make any change it would need total ban on all water bills i think by the populace!
In the UK even the dentists are now admitting that flouride in the water has not helped the children's teeth much, of course this was the real reason why they supposedly felt we needed it put in to our drinking water.
But nothing will de done about it, obviously the dumbing down affect is working because half the blooming country is already in a don't care state of existance.

[conk]

Flouride is the reason I bought a distiller. Flouride and aluminum combine to make for a true poisonous concoction. just terrible. Flouride supplants iodine in the thyroid. It's just so maddening that a mountain of unbiased evidence clearly shows the serious issues with this 'rat poison'. The Russians used it purposefully to make the population apathetic. What else do we need to know, I guess. A grave mistake, so to hear. Reverse osmosis or distillation are your best bets.

[CetaceousOne]

Reverse osmosis or distillation are your best bets.

There are other filtration systems that offer post filters that remove fluoride.

The Berkey water filter is one of them. It effectively removes the bad stuff,
but does not strip the water of the minerals your body needs.

[onawah]

Be aware that showering and bathing in fluoridated water is just as bad as drinking it--it enters your body through the pores. I am fortunate that my town's water isn't fluoridated (lots of folks fight long and hard to keep it out) but we do have chlorine and other toxins. If, like me, you are on a budget, you can buy a shower filter that filters out the toxins and fill gallon bottles from the shower for drinking water, until you can get a filter for the kitchen faucet too. If you can afford it, of course, the best thing is to buy a system that connects to the source of the water for your whole house. Aquasana is the brand I bought, as Consumer Reports gives them flying colors. But I'm not sure if they have a fluoride removing filter.
The Berkey has a fluoride removing filter, but it doesn't connect to faucets, so is more work. I thought of buying one, just in case I ended up living somewhere with fluoridated water, and using the filtered water for bathing, purchasing a heating element to put in the bathtub. You could use the bathwater more than once, use it for watering plants, etc.
I have had guests comment how much cleaner the water feels in my shower, who went home and bought a filter for their shower too. The difference is very noticeable!

[Barron]

Hi Lucid Jia

Try your fluoride research here for the best site - very comprehensive: http://www.fluoridealert.org/ - The Fluoride Action Network - USA based but probably there is an Australian branch. In NZ we have http://www.fannz.org.nz/ or The Fluoride Action Network. Both organisations have had good success with councils changing their minds on this issue. And thru this local (for you) Australian site you should be able to network with others of like-mind and ask the what you can do to help stop this in your area - http://www.fluorideaustralia.org/

Good luck!

PS I have no association with the following website however they have a good article on what actually removes the fluoride from your water: http://wellingtonwaterfilters.co.nz/Fluoride_Removal.html

[Swanny]

I can smell the chlorine in my water when I shower. Which is the best shower filter to buy??

[conk]

Distillation does not remove the organic minerals the body needs, only the heavy metals it doesn't. Proven time and time again. Tired old argument against distilled water. Just to be sure you can add a pinch of sea salt to a gallon or add a few grains of unstripped rice to the gallon.

[Ross]

18 months ago, here in Queensland Australia, the state government introduced flouride into the water...there were many who opposed this, a referendum was not 'required' as the 'experts' and the evidence of fluoride to be beneificial for the populace overrode any 'minor' oppositon...they do not ask us, the people, they do not give a damm about us! These are the ones at the top who instigate this kind on measure, and of course keep the 'others' compartmentilized and ignorant!

I am saddened at the continued degeneration of the human race...by the few that rule the many...

I am fortunate that i collect my own rain water for all uses, I am in an area that is as healthy as you can get when it comes to 'clean' precipitation' But...there is already talk of 'taxing' what we collect from the skies...can you believe that? true friggin story!

Peace

[Barron]

Hi Ross

Like yourself, i also collect rain water and am not on the town supply either as they fluoridate most of Auckland's supply.

Swanny, not sure re the "best" brand to buy to remove chlorine but hopefully a shop or business over your way that specialises in such things can help. I seem to recall seeing an add in the Nexus Mag about them sometime ago.
Apparently when you have a hot shower the chlorine fumes aren't meant to very good for you at all, not to mention whatever level maybe absorbed into your body thru skin etc.

This link here reviews products re shower filters and also has very good articles on the matter: http://search.mercola.com/Results.aspx?k=shower%20filter

Cheers

[Vidya Moksha]

Drinking rain water in the long term is not good for you. Water will strip from your body all the nutrients and elements it needs to make itself healthy.

If you collect rainwater, suspend a small rot proof bag of granite dust in the water to mineralise it, that should do the trick!

i also guess himalayan salt in the right dose would do similar, without acquiring a salty taste

I miss spring water, drank it for so many years, and now im back to chlorinated tap water :( i filter it, but even so :(

[Teakai]

18 months ago, here in Queensland Australia, the state government introduced flouride into the water...there were many who opposed this, a referendum was not 'required' as the 'experts' and the evidence of fluoride to be beneificial for the populace overrode any 'minor' oppositon...they do not ask us, the people, they do not give a damm about us! These are the ones at the top who instigate this kind on measure, and of course keep the 'others' compartmentilized and ignorant!

I am saddened at the continued degeneration of the human race...by the few that rule the many...

I am fortunate that i collect my own rain water for all uses, I am in an area that is as healthy as you can get when it comes to 'clean' precipitation' But...there is already talk of 'taxing' what we collect from the skies...can you believe that? true friggin story!

Peace

Seriously???
How ridiculous!.. When I read or hear stuff like that I can't help but be stunned by the depth of greed and stupidity of the people in charge.
Sort of makes me think the earth could really do with a bl**dy good shake up so that we might be able to begin again with a clean slate.

[Ross]

Remember that they 'own' the supply of it, poison it, then sell it to us...

[Barron]

For Swanny: REMOVE CHLORINE FROM YOUR SHOWER
It is common for health-conscious families to install chlorine-removal filters in their kitchens, but it has been estimated that we absorb more chlorine through our skin when taking a bath than we ever could from drinking water. That is because the body's skin surface is larger than the intestinal surface and because the lungs, too, are very efficient absorbers, and we inhale a substantial amount of chlorine gas while bathing. Benefits of de-chlorinated water are healthier, younger looking skin; softer, more manageable hair; less fading of color-treated hair; relief from dry skin and scalp; and better lathering. Removes 90% or more of chlorine.... http://www.realityzone.com/rainshowr.html

[Barron]

Surprise truth from mainstream media: In the wake of the recent Icelandic volcano eruption, local farmers are sheltering livestock to prevent them from eating grass with volcanic ash on it because it contains fluoride. This article from the Associated Press says: "Fluoride causes long-term bone damage that makes teeth fall out and bones break." [Fluoride is added to human water supplies because we are told it is safe and protects our teeth, but in Iceland it is very dangerous for cattle. Got it?] AP 2010 Apr 18
http://www.journalgazette.net/article/20100418/NEWS04/304189890/-1/NEWS09

[Swanny]

Thanks for the info Barron :)

[Swami]

“Fluoridation is the tip of the enhancement iceberg. Science is progressing fast to develop safe and effective cognitive enhancers, drugs which will improve our mental abilities. For years, people have used crude enhancers, usually to promote wakefulness, like nicotine, caffeine and amphetamines. A new generation of more effective enhancers is emerging modafenil, ritalin, Adderral and ampakines and the piracetam family of memory improvers.”

But once highly safe and effective cognitive enhancers are developed – as they almost surely will be – the question will arise whether they should be added to the water, like fluoride, or our cereals, like folate. It seems likely that widespread population level cognitive enhancement will be irresistible.

http://www.prisonplanet.com/oxford-professor-calls-for-mass-drugging-population-through-water-supply.html

[John Parslow]

Hello Lucid Jia

Please don't be angry with them for they know not what they do ... ... I like your plan to send them each personally a data sheet of just what evil they propose - at least let the sheep read the facts, should give them food for thought, my best wishes go with you.

Love and peace. JP :cool:

[PINEAL-PILOT-IN MERKABAH]

again i say pray for the solar flare , it can only be a good thing. since we are living ina fascist techno control grid, universe will provide those of us that need to help to escape this by frying every eelctrical item on earth. NO MORE SATTELITTES MORE CHIPS, GAME OVER FOR THE NWO.

[conk]

Inexpensive filters can be attached to your shower head for filtration of chlorine.

The worst part of the fluoride debacle is that most municipalities add the WRONG kind of cheap fluoride, rather than the least poisonous kind they are supposed to use. Then you get more from the tea you drink and you get fluoride's dangerous cousin bromide in your bread. The poor thyroid gland is most unhappy with these putrid chemicals.

[lindabaker]

Flouride in the water and thyroid disease is why many Americans have so much trouble with weight gain. Our bodies are doing the best they can. Most people still use fluoridated toothpaste as well. So brainwashed and so controlled. Veterinarians in the US are communicating about the dangers of the chemical to horse breeders. Maybe the public will get it now...

[sjkted]

Be aware that showering and bathing in fluoridated water is just as bad as drinking it--it enters your body through the pores. I am fortunate that my town's water isn't fluoridated (lots of folks fight long and hard to keep it out) but we do have chlorine and other toxins. If, like me, you are on a budget, you can buy a shower filter that filters out the toxins and fill gallon bottles from the shower for drinking water, until you can get a filter for the kitchen faucet too. If you can afford it, of course, the best thing is to buy a system that connects to the source of the water for your whole house. Aquasana is the brand I bought, as Consumer Reports gives them flying colors. But I'm not sure if they have a fluoride removing filter.
The Berkey has a fluoride removing filter, but it doesn't connect to faucets, so is more work. I thought of buying one, just in case I ended up living somewhere with fluoridated water, and using the filtered water for bathing, purchasing a heating element to put in the bathtub. You could use the bathwater more than once, use it for watering plants, etc.
I have had guests comment how much cleaner the water feels in my shower, who went home and bought a filter for their shower too. The difference is very noticeable!

I'm not sure it's as bad as drinking it. I've done my research on taking fluoride orally and there are substantial studies that it causes skeletal flurosis and potentially contributes to osteoporosis, but I haven't heard anything about ingesting it dermally.

I've not see a single shower filter that will filter fluoride. The only "filter" method that would do it is RO, but it wouldn't produce much of a shower -- a trickle would be more accurate.

Has anyone seen any method to get fluoride out of shower water?

--sjkted

[sunnyrap]

Jim Humble's MMS addresses fluoride very easily and cheaply along with most pathogens that are harmful to us. Being angry in itself is destructive, so don't dwell there--it's just what the manipulators hope for because it destroys you just as neatly as the long list of chemicals they throw at us. Just learn the proper protocols for addressing these hazards and you will be fine:

http://theomegaway.com/mms.html
Be sure to check out the new protocols by Humble, as they've changed:
http://jimhumble.biz/biz-fundamentals.htm

By the way, I highly recommend the Freeman thread and watching his video message. Very smart and uplifting.

[Lucid Jia]

Being angry in itself is destructive, so don't dwell there--it's just what the manipulators hope for because it destroys you just as neatly as the long list of chemicals they throw at us. .

This is true, anger doesnt help anthing. I am now only drinking filtered rain water. But still am at a loss as what to do for all the unsuspecting people all around me.

Namaste, Jia.

[Bea]

They fluoridated the water here in central Victoria (Australia) years ago, truly I think I've become more apathetic over the years.
I remember reading some article in Nexus years ago where it mentioned that one of the first things Margaret Thatcher did when she became PM was to fluoridate North Ireland's water supply. Don't know if that's true, but would be surprised if she hadn't done it rather than other way round.

[onawah]

I believe that fluoride is not a problem when you are showering as it cannot enter the pores, but I'm not sure about breathing the vapor. I use an Aquasana filter on my showerhead to filter out the chlorine and I fill water bottles from that for drinking, until I can afford to get a filter for my kitchen sink too. (Fortunately, we don't have fluoride in our water here.)
Aquansana may not be the best, but the prices are reasonable and it's been in business a long time, so replacement parts should always be easy to obtain. It gets a high score in Consumer Digest.
I would like to have a Berkey too, in case of emergencies.

[conk]

I believe you can draw some water and let it sit for a few hours to allow the chlorine to escape, then drink it.

[onawah]

I'm not sure it's as bad as drinking it. I've done my research on taking fluoride orally and there are substantial studies that it causes skeletal flurosis and potentially contributes to osteoporosis, but I haven't heard anything about ingesting it dermally.

I've not see a single shower filter that will filter fluoride. The only "filter" method that would do it is RO, but it wouldn't produce much of a shower -- a trickle would be more accurate.

Has anyone seen any method to get fluoride out of shower water?

--sjkted

I was informed since I posted that that fluoride cannot enter through the pores, though as I also stated in a subsequent post, I don't know if it can enter through the lungs via vapor.

[Snowbird]

Water is the stuff of life. We have to know what we are drinking. How on earth can they possibly estimate taxation for the collection of rainwater? Is that not desperation on their part?

I shop at a Whole Foods market here in the states. This market has a water processing unit that has a five-step purification system which includes reverse osmosis. Yes, I cart water and am very happy to do so. It costs $0.59 per gallon, but this also saves me from being forced to purchase and maintain a purification system plus the filters which don't last very long. I use this water also for cooking, so I use quite a lot of water every week. I have been using this water for years and I trust it.

Fluoride Primer from the International Institute of Concern for Public Health

Some of the myths:

Ingested fluoride reduces cavities by hardening the enamel.
TRUTH: peer reviewed dental research shows that benefits, if any, are TOPICAL, not from ingestion....Airborne fluorides are a significant contributing factor to dental and skeletal fluorosis but this factor is ignored by Public Health when adding fluorides to drinking water and in effect, doubling or tripling the exposure that children get. The longest-fluoridated areas of the US such as Kentucky show the highest number of toothless adults and children with severe dental fluorosis.

Fluoride is an essential nutrient.
TRUTH: The NIH, NRC and NAS were forced to admit that fluoride has no role in human nutrition and is not necessary for optimal development and growth. Fluoride is toxic at the molecular level in very low concentrations and causes osteoporosis and spinal stenosis after 50 years at so-called “optimal” concentration in drinking water....

Thousands of studies support water fluoridation.
Oh, this is a good one. TRUTH: The studies don’t exist, period....The data from the few early, short-duration studies are damning – earlier puberty in girls, increased drop out rate from high school, increased thyroid disease and cancer, increased bone cancer, higher rates of Alzheimer’s disease, higher lead levels, higher crime rate, increased Down’s syndrome births, higher rates of osteoporosis and hip fractures in fluoridated seniors. Recent animal studies are also damning – fluoride at “optimal concentration” is neurotoxic to rats.

Water fluoridation is safe and effective.
TRUTH: No safety or toxicity study has ever been done on fluorosilicates for human use....

http://iicph.org/fluoride_primer

[iceni tribe]

a picture can speak a thousand words ,

http://i753.photobucket.com/albums/xx171/naf09_2010/dd395-Watersite.jpg

[jackovesk]

The forced medication of our water supply with Sodium fluoride was just voted in by our "trusted" council members where I am living (mabey not much longer) in Northern rivers, NSW, Australia.

So who are these people that do this to us? Are they just naive and really believe that fluoride is harmless and is needed for healthy teeth. Are they ruthless business people that see a profit potential and don't really care what happens to us? Are they weak sheep that are just obeying a higher order and just want to keep their snug job? Or are the evil psychopaths that have an agenda and know full well what they are doing to us ? Beats me.

This has really got to me and I am left wondering what I can do. I'm sure as hell not going to drink the tap water here anymore. But what about all my friends and the general public around me that have no idea what they are about to start ingesting and what it will do to them in the long term.

This seem very backwards to me as allot of countries have banned the use of fluoride in the water. Also it is in nearly everyone toothpaste already so why does the council feel the need to give us a double dose??

So, any suggestions on what I can do to either try and fight this or inform the public? Maybe it is to late as fluoride is known to make people docile and sheep like..... sigh!

I was thinking of sending each council member a list of horrible facts about fluoride and then demand a justification of why they voted for this but I'm sure that wouldn't help and they would just ignore me.

Any thoughts, comments or suggestions?

Namste, Jia.

Just you wait Lucid Jia until you taste it!

It's tastes like it's Metallic and then you constantly get a ringing in your ears if you drink too much of the Poison!

Send this to Each & Everyone of the ScumBags!

Our Govts. are slowly Killiing Us all..!

Professor issues a Stark Warning to us all..!

The Flouride that goes into our drinking water is Toxic Waste from the production of Fertiliser.

I KNOW this is not New News, HOWEVER it is problably one best Reports coming straight from the MSM.

It is a Great "Wake Up" Education Video to share with friends & family who never believed that their Govt. would ever harm them!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nZBRBPgTOt0&feature=player_embedded

[witchy1]

I like your plan to send them each personally a data sheet of just what evil they propose

Hi Lucid, I also think this is a great idea plus advise them in your letter you have sent a copy of your correspondance to the local papers and all media for comment. (or just put a cc and all the names at the bottom) Make it short and to the point and cite as many references as you can.

You might also like to add that many countries are stopping putting it in and request in specifically request a response in writing for rationale, including references for adding poison to yours (and their) water supply. You can also ask the cost to the tax payer for this and ask the rationale for not considering "green" techniques - namely oxygen treatment!!!!

Good link here http://www.fluoridealert.org/RFW-nations.htm about who has and hasnt got it.

"That makes the grand total anywhere from 14 to 32, which in any case, is a far cry from the ADA's claim of 60. To state the obvious, if these "authorities" cannot count up to 60, what credence should we give their other "research" claims? Let me end with something we do know.

In the democracies of Western Europe, water fluoridation has been almost unanimously rejected. Countries there that have rejected fluoridation include Austria, Belgium, Denmark, Finland, France, Germany, Iceland, Italy, Luxembourg, Netherlands, Norway, and Sweden. For explanations of why these countries chose not to fluoridate, visit www.fluoridealert.org/govt-statements.htm (http://www.fluoridealert.org/govt-statements.htm). Of particular interest in this respect is that according to World Health Organization figures (see http://www.fluoridealert.org/WHO-DMFT.htm (http://www.fluoridealert.org/health/teeth/caries/who-dmft.html)) their children’s’ teeth are just as good, if not better, than the teeth of children in fluoridated countries. And that isn't fuzzy math!

Just writing about it makes my blood boil.

[The One]

I sent this email below to the European Parliment asking for an answer on this subject

I would like to know why the United Kingdom was never able to vote on weather we wanted fluoride in our water supply. There have been fluoridation schemes in the UK for over 30 years. We have always been told it improves tooth decay statistics show it doesn’t. Why would the government go to such lengths in wanting this action?

I think this should have been put to a public vote but it wasn’t. It was decided by Mps who instructed the Strategic Health Authority who in turn contacted the water supply companies with how much fluoride to put in our water.

This was never put to a public vote and decisions were made without public consent. We are supposed to live in a democratic society .I would like to know why Ministers thought this action was so necessary without public opinion because contrary to what they say it was not for the greater good. Fluoride is a poison

[irishspirit]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dl5TrAEFtJQ

http://www.youtube.com/user/HumanSayNo#p/c/0/dl5TrAEFtJQ excellent playlist

[THIRDEYE]

i did a little research on floridated water its poison!!!!!!yesterday nsn had an article that municpalities would lower the levels of floride,floride not to mention kills the thyroid,and tampers with hormones in the body...ok drop the level in water and increase the level in dental products,tooth paste and mouth washes,the powers to be are killing us....i dont use tooth paste anymore i use baking soda....just food for thought....love,light,and abundance...thirdeye....

[Binaryspellbook]

Flouride in the water and thyroid disease is why many Americans have so much trouble with weight gain. Our bodies are doing the best they can. Most people still use fluoridated toothpaste as well. So brainwashed and so controlled. Veterinarians in the US are communicating about the dangers of the chemical to horse breeders. Maybe the public will get it now...

Hi Linda,

It used to be a joke in Europe. Fat Yanks. However it seems the calories have decided that Europe is the next new target. More and more chubbies to be seen here too. Not of course on the scale of America, but we are catching up fast. Here in Scotland we have had fluoride in the water for years. It really makes you wonder what their motives are. Dr Pete Peterson alluded in an interview with Camelot that there was a type of fish liver oil (he refused to name the fish - that pissed me off a lot actually) that was given to children in the aftermath of WW2. This oil allegedly eradicated ALL tooth decay. So why the hell do they not add that to the water. Perhaps it's because healthy children are not as profitable as children with bad teeth. It's disgusting, and the bastards who make these decisions should answer for their crimes.