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Mandala

16th February 2011, 13:38

http://news.blogs.cnn.com/2011/02/15/scientists-telescope-hunt-massive-hidden-object-in-space/?iref=NS1

You know how you sometimes can sense that something is present even though you can't see it? Well, astronomers are getting that feeling about a giant, hidden object in space.

And when we say giant, we mean GIANT.

Evidence is mounting that either a brown dwarf star or a gas giant planet is lurking at the outermost reaches of our solar system, far beyond Pluto. The theoretical object, dubbed Tyche, is estimated to be four times the size of Jupiter and 15,000 times farther from the sun than Earth, according to a story in the British paper The Independent.

Astrophysicists John Matese and Daniel Whitmire from the University of Louisiana at Lafayette think data from NASA's infrared space telescope WISE will confirm Tyche's existence and location within two years.

The presence of such a massive object in the solar system's far-flung Oort Cloud could explain a barrage of comets from an unexpected direction, according to a December article at Space.com.

Its 27 million-year orbit could also explain a pattern of mass extinctions on Earth, scientists say.

Brown dwarfs are cold "failed" stars; their dimness and lack of heat radiation can make them hard to detect. Gas giants are huge planets – like Saturn, Jupiter and Neptune – that are made up of gases and may lack a solid surface like Earth's.

Whitmire told The Independent that Tyche will probably be composed of hydrogen and helium and have colorful spots, bands and clouds like Jupiter.

"You'd also expect it to have moons," he said. "All the outer planets have them."

Tyche was first hypothesized in 1984 as Nemesis, a dark companion star to the sun. It's been the subject of astronomical research and debate ever since. In July, another Space.com article said the celestial evidence suggests Tyche could not possibly exist.

To distinguish it from the Nemesis star theory, Matese and Whitmire are calling their object Tyche, after the good sister of the goddess Nemesis in Greek mythology.

Their research is published in Icarus, the International Journal of Solar System Studies.

Gaia

16th February 2011, 13:51

Wasn't there some astronomer in the Middle Ages that said there was another planet out there ?

the_flyingboy

16th February 2011, 13:56

do you think it might be nibiru?

Ultima Thule

16th February 2011, 14:00

Wouldn´t it be possible that Tyche is not a planet, but the "twin" of our son, in a binary solar system?

greybeard

16th February 2011, 14:15

Ultima Thule

20th February 2011, 10:40

Bump, interested in ideas whether this might the binary companion of our sun?

Ammit

20th February 2011, 11:37

Lord Sidious

20th February 2011, 11:50

I dont think they are hunting for it I think they know its there just hunting for a way to gently tell us bit by bit.
I posted a coast to coat interview regarding energy and 2012 there was a lot on it about this planet.
I dont like repeatedly posting the same video seem bad manners to do so.
Its a few pages back on the Enlightened: Ego what is it thread in the spiritual section.
I dont know enough about this subject to comment
Excitin times though.
Chris

I would concur.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eris_(dwarf_planet)

I don't believe it is a planet, but a dwarf star. That would make our system binary, much like you see in Star Wars when we see Luke on Tatooine and the twin suns.
This one seems to have either failed to grow or has shrunk down to the dwarf stage.
If it has shrunk, the gravitational field would be enormous.
More than enough to pull moons out of orbits and cause catastophes on planetary surfaces.

str8thinker

20th February 2011, 12:26

greybeard

20th February 2011, 12:41

@greybeard: Chris, your thread (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?860) is 40 pages long. To which video were you referring?

To everyone else: We probably don't need another Tyche thread, since we already have this one plus at least three others:
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?3893
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?8873
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?14154

(I searched for 'Tyche' - didn't even try 'Nibiru', 'Planet X', 'Nemesis', etc.)

Maybe we need a separate forum subsection for this, seeing that both it and 2010 are drawing closer...

Hi to save you going through it;
A very interesting listen
Its in ten parts on u tube.
I download all into one folder then it plays right through,
Fasten your seat belts could be an interesting ride ahead if he is right
Regards Chris

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sNgUdg2NAmc&feature=player_embedded

witchy1

23rd February 2011, 12:34

You know how you sometimes can sense that something is present even though you can't see it? Well, astronomers are getting that feeling about a giant, hidden object in space.

And when we say giant, we mean GIANT.

Evidence is mounting that either a brown dwarf star or a gas giant planet is lurking at the outermost reaches of our solar system (http://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/up-telescope-search-begins-for-giant-new-planet-2213119.html), far beyond Pluto. The theoretical object, dubbed Tyche, is estimated to be four times the size of Jupiter and 15,000 times farther from the sun than Earth, according to a story in the British paper The Independent.

Astrophysicists John Matese and Daniel Whitmire from the University of Louisiana at Lafayette think data from NASA's infrared space telescope WISE will confirm Tyche's existence and location within two years.

The presence of such a massive object in the solar system's far-flung Oort Cloud could explain a barrage of comets (http://www.space.com/9612-giant-stealth-planet-explain-rain-comets-solar-system-edge.html) from an unexpected direction, according to a December article at Space.com.

Its 27 million-year orbit could also explain a pattern of mass extinctions on Earth (http://www.space.com/8028-sun-nemesis-pelted-earth-comets-study-suggests.html), scientists say.

More here:http://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/up-telescope-search-begins-for-giant-new-planet-2213119.html
http://news.blogs.cnn.com/2011/02/15/scientists-telescope-hunt-massive-hidden-object-in-space/
http://www.space.com/9612-giant-stealth-planet-explain-rain-comets-solar-system-edge.html
http://icarus.cornell.edu/information/

http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/2011/images/02/15/t1larg.dwarf.nasa.jpg

Some scientists think a brown dwarf or gas giant bigger than Jupiter could be at the outer reaches of the solar system. In this image showing relative size, the white object at the upper left edge represents the sun.

I am sure our Solar experts may have some words of wisdom on this hypothesis?
W

Steph

23rd February 2011, 18:27

Thanks Witchy, I too would be very interested to hear more on this.

crosby

23rd February 2011, 19:02

thanks witchy1. great information. i also just read somewhere (hmm......can't remember) that our planet has been hit by 4 meteors in the last year and that the fabulous media hasn't reported on them. presumably, if they haven't reported it then it never occurred. ahhh, now i remember, project camelot.
warmest regards, corson

witchy1

24th February 2011, 02:39

Where are our astro/ solar experts?????? Your opinion is kindly requested should you be available and have time - Please:hail:

str8thinker

24th February 2011, 03:55

Thanks, witchy1, but please see my post here (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?14326-Scientists-telescope-hunt-massive-hidden-object-in-space-2-15-11&p=147866&viewfull=1#post147866).

Calz

24th February 2011, 04:26

str8thinker

24th February 2011, 05:29

Thanks, Chris.

Here are the links to the 10 parts:

Energy Shifts & 2012 - David Sereda
1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sNgUdg2NAmc
2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jjMo2vf5pwA
3
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qeXqf31inJc
4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lTA1B5pTV8U
5
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u23OaXu-HVE
6
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fXkSuj3Q_as
7
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AnBpTdPZPpc
8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bc-2z_wzrm0
9
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EZg8kc6UyZw
10
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cYxdN7QLYlY

witchy1

24th February 2011, 05:54

Thanks Str&thinker, can mods please merge threads to here.

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?14326-Scientists-telescope-hunt-massive-hidden-object-in-space-2-15-11&p=147866&viewfull=1#post147866

lux

24th February 2011, 06:09

Greetings all!

Sorry to be the bearer of bad news, but it appears that the WISE telescope has been shut down.

"Feb. 17, 2011 - The WISE Spacecraft transmitter was turned off for the final time at 12:00 noon PST today (Feb 17). WISE Principal Investigator Ned Wright sent the last command. The Spacecraft will remain in hibernation without ground contacts awaiting possible future use."

http://wise.ssl.berkeley.edu/news.html

Interesting...

Darla Ken Pearce

24th February 2011, 06:20

There are more than a few planets out there, scientists haven't been able to detect. In the universe, there are multiple bodies that are not visible to the naked eye even with telescopes. These planets are like our etheric body ~ until one reaches a certain level of consciousness, we are not able to see it. Just because we can't see it, doesn't mean it's not there.

As Earth ascends and we go into higher levels of consciousness and finally when we reach full consciousness, we will have the ability to "see" many things that are not visible to us now. Expect to see many other wonders, as well. We live in the most exciting times! And the most amazing life is unfolding for us than you could possibly imagine! And so it is... xoxox

slipknotted

24th February 2011, 06:25

they dont know what they are talking about !

Shane_Original

24th February 2011, 06:40

Two threads merged.

We now have four threads with different variations of the same source news. As they are from different "view points" they will not be merged again at this time. We may have to do a little clean up of some sort soon. As I said when the topic was recently posted. Things seem to be heating up in the media with regards to "pushing" this topic.

With respect,
Shane

Darla Ken Pearce

24th February 2011, 06:57

The way that piece was written suggests to me that they already know where it is.
How else would they know it is 15,000 times farther from the sun than Earth!!
How would they know it`s had a 27 million-year orbit!!
And how the hell would they be able to guess it is composed of hydrogen and helium
and have colorful spots, bands and clouds like Jupiter.

They are privy to information given to them by 6 different types of beings from other planets they met through the original Roswell crash. The U.S. sent about a dozen scientists back with the dead Ebens from Serpo to do research and live among them for 10 years. While there, they were able to meet others from various planets and contract with them for technology that's been kept secret for over 60 years. A record of materials these scientists brought with them is available and the record of their experiences is actually posted online. Two did not want to return and were allowed to stay on Serpo. One or two died, and the rest returned.

These people who were from various military branches came back and were debriefed for a couple of years and held on bases. They were military that completely disappear off any records and apparently did not have families who would miss them. If anyone is interested I can guide them to this information, or you can ran a google search under "Serpo" it would probably come up. The Ebens look just like the beings used in "Close Encounters of the Third Kind." Many others have been aware of these events and did not or were unable to reveal them as evidenced by that movie in particular but many other space scenarios. While I will not mention any sci-fi writers, it is pretty obvious who was in the know. One of the reasons this had to be kept so quiet is that one of the contracts allowed the Greys to abduct people for their own purposes. No benevolent beings live in the underground complexes of places like Area 51. These are dark forces that Charles doesn't want to talk about and neither does the government.

So, yes, they know much more than we've been told. It is no longer possible to keep any secrets as consciousness rises and you can feel it within your own bodies ~ as we change from carbon to crystaline ~ light bodies ~ our powers increase and soon will only love and light will prevail and nothing can be hidden again. These changes cannot be stopped and even at this moment we are able to restore our own DNA and enable those 10 strands that were deactivated by the Annunuki to come back online and functioning. We've have been forced to operate using only 2 of our 12 strands of DNA and it's what enabled dark forces to enslave us all these eons. Those days are over.

One last thought, these other beings were not members of the Galactic Federation of Light who are the highest celestial beings, they are of lower vibration planets. The amazing technology has been used completely on black ops, war making. If you remember Admiral Byrd's encounter and warning from the Agarthans in inner earth, these higher beings refused to give technology for these dark purposes and have blocked many attempts to poison deep space on forays. Earth, in fact, has been under quarantine which has only now been lifted so the Celestials who are assisting earth can protect her. There are million of motherships of every size and dimension overseeing events.

The Galactic Federation of Light are our protectors. It is their ships, huge motherships, that can be seen in the skies and in activities around the Sun. Unlike the others, they are benevolent and have our best interests at heart. It is these celestials who I call the Hosts of Heaven. They are assisting us during this period of Earth's ascension and it is their desire that as many beings as possible are able to ascend with her. I'd tell you how I know these things but you'd never believe me ; ) xoxox

ascendingstarseed

24th February 2011, 09:30

Yes, they know much more than they are letting on to. Apparently they know of several large planetary bodies, which includes a dwarf star traveling through with it's own mini-solar system and Nibiru is a part of that solar system. It's said that the inhabitants live inside the planet since the dwarf doesn't radiate enough heat to support life on the surface.
Excellent interview with Lucus on Coast to coast Monday where they discussed many of the facts behind the existence of Planet X and the dwarf sun. The twin, or sister to our sun. It would be highly unusual if the sun didn't have a companion star, as binary system are the rule rather than the exception.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tsZwcrGZ4K8

Another good interview that recently came out is with Kerry Cassidy who interviewed Brooks Agnew around the end of Jan. he makes a lot of sense on the subject of several planetary bodies beebopping around the solar system that "they" are aware of. Stan Deyo was on Coast to Coast on Feb 16th, he's a new believer who's just now coming around to believe in Planet X, check out that interview for good info

Darla's correct in saying that much of our information comes from ET's that we've been working with for decades now. They began building all the underground bases back in the late 50's early 60's when they learned about that we are approaching the end of a cycle that's accompanied by cataclysms that basically reset life here on earth. Knocks us back to the Stone Age every time these planetary bodies barrel through the solar system, but this time we're also crossing the Great Rift at the galactic equator which happens less frequently, I think 26,000 yrs is the cycle for crossing the galactic hemisphere. The problem with that is when we reach the equator apparently there's a massive wave of energy that spreads out from the black hole in the center of the galaxy and when the Earth hits that wave it causes what the Native American's called the Great Shaking where the planet will shake violently, much stronger that a 9-10 on the Richter scale and for a period long enough to destroy just about everything standing, as well as bringing down many trees too.

Another thing to note is the scientists are sure what kind of energy we're facing on the opposite hemisphere ie: when you go to the Earths southern hemisphere the gravitational pull is opposite so that water swirls down the drain in the opposite direction from the northern hemisphere. So it's difficult for them to say what to expect on an energy level - maybe the energies on the other side will put us back in touch with our spiritual nature - who knows maybe humanity goes through these positive and negative polarities in cycles depending on what galactic hemisphere we're in. Maybe that's what's precipitating our ascension withe the planet and as a race????

It seems like there's a lot of information coming forward now, it's like they're letting just enough info out there through people like Agnew, Lucus and Deyo so that people like us who are willing to do the mental gymnastics, that are smart, patient and intuitive enough to figure it out . Takes time putting all this stuff together...I had to quit watching TV all together and devote myself to re-learning the truth about the world we live in. Instead of the false reality we were programmed to believe we exist in.

KosmicKat

24th February 2011, 13:05

It is no longer possible to keep any secrets as consciousness rises and you can feel it within your own bodies ~ as we change from carbon to crystaline ~ light bodies ~ our powers increase and soon will only love and light will prevail and nothing can be hidden again.
I think perhaps a great many people have known, intuitively, or in similar ways for a long time, some of the things that are now becoming more widely known (I first dreamed up the idea of a secret moonbase in the 1980s when IIRC there was no internet, and I had no idea such things as conspiracy theories existed, as the basis for a potential novel).

On the subject of crystaline bodies, this isn't meant to be a criticism but don't forget that carbon can also form crystals, much prized for engagement rings and crowns. However it would be nice to see our "animated mud" transformed into something that reacts more directly to the native energies of our universe.

truthseekerdan

25th February 2011, 00:34

They are privy to information given to them by 6 different types of beings from other planets they met through the original Roswell crash. The U.S. sent about a dozen scientists back with the dead Ebens from Serpo to do research and live among them for 10 years. While there, they were able to meet others from various planets and contract with them for technology that's been kept secret for over 60 years. A record of materials these scientists brought with them is available and the record of their experiences is actually posted online. Two did not want to return and were allowed to stay on Serpo. One or two died, and the rest returned.

Dear Darla, I thought that you knew already that the Serpo story (http://serpo.org/) is a bogus one...:rolleyes:

Billy

25th February 2011, 00:41

I am sorry if this is off topic but i could not find a solar flair thread, But this shot of our sun taken today is amazing.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Jz2D4CC1gI

Icecold

25th February 2011, 01:01

witchy1 wrote:

The presence of such a massive object in the solar system's far-flung Oort Cloud could explain a barrage of comets (http://www.space.com/9612-giant-stealth-planet-explain-rain-comets-solar-system-edge.html) from an unexpected direction, according to a December article at Space.com.

Laura Knight J. has been writing about this for several years.

Here is a post from another thread where I linked to a 2007 artical of hers covering the dwarf going into the Oort Cloud causing a massive meteor shower in the inner solar system:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?14308-What-s-up-with-the-news...&p=142174#post142174

I'm quite familiar with Laura's channeled information.

Yes, her channeled source has been saying that there is a brown dwarf which has passed through the oort cloud and is on its way to a solar system near you.

Giaia, no, Tyche is likely not Niburu, however, Niburu may be a satellite of Tyche.

Laura's material is complicated by her pronouncements regarding 'the wave'. A gravity wave which is approaching earth. It is this gravity wave which is causing the heating of the planets within our solar system. It is this gravity wave which is causing the shift to a higher state of being. This increasing vibration is occurring at the quantum level. This gravity wave is carrying beings. The annunaki are riding this gravity wave and they are coming back to us. Other beings are also riding this gravity wave.

There is a lot more information. But it is eerily accurate in many respects. Laura says that global warming (caused by the gravity wave and not pollution) would not be be seen as an effect on earth so much, rather that there would be a mini Ice Age. This has been quite evident of late. She made these predictions well before the characteristics of an ice age were evident.

Remember this is channeled information. Using a Ouija board.