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Luke
20th February 2011, 15:42
Hello!

I would like all of you to meditate on one issue:

Why it is that there is hardly a day without someone predicting the world is going to end?

In western world, this goes at least to John the Mushroomhead, when he wrote/was dictated little bit called "Apocalypse" ...

But even before that, the "end of the world was a important part of Jewish Mysticism.


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core idea is there will be time of judgement, and "good" will be separated from "bad"

"chosen" from those not.

Etc.

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In Europe, this belief turned into something generally called "Millenarianism"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Millenarianism

Millenarianism (also millenarism) is the belief by a religious, social, or political group or movement in a coming major transformation of society, after which all things will be changed, based on a one-thousand-year cycle. The term spawns from the word "millennium", and is more generically used to refer to any belief centered around 1000 year intervals. Millenarianism is a concept/theme that exists in many cultures and religions. Millennialism is a specific type of Millenarianism as it applies to Christianity.
There is hardly a mystic or seer that do not have his version of how and why we are going to be eradicated from face of the Earth

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we can track this brand of thinking to current times: Y2K fear, now turned 2012 for example.
The other brands are "elite/corporations are gonna kill us"
There is hardly a day without such prediction made somewhere.

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Are such thing going to happen? Maybe!
This is not the real question though.

Real question is why YOU consider the issue important enough to give your energy to it.

Remember, we co-create reality as it is. Nothing really happens without our consent. We are the ones that collapse the waves of probability.

Those who think themselves Rulers are aware of that. That is why they want you to believe in things that make them powerful.


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Fear is great attractor. Look at the things you do in your life, and see how much of them you do out of fear. Fear of hunger. Fear of being pariah. Fear of being single person that cares about something.

And now look at the issues you bombard yourself with.
They put fluoride into water in order to kill you.
They use TV to scramble your brain.
They make GMO food in order to starve you
They make cellphones in order to fry your brain.
They use HAARP/Chemtrails in order to controll/kill you.

Day after day after day, site after site that says you are not master of your destiny.

Are those things above a problem? sure they are.

But all you do surfing and reading and giving your energy into contemplating the issue.. you give your energy supporting those causes!

This is essence of Fear Porn - the more you are afraid - the more you seek it - the greater hold it have over your life.


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Think what your thoughts and actions allow to transpire.
What intentions you project
What things you are attracting into your life
What need to be done to balance all this.

Do not Fear. Communicate. Build.

9eagle9
20th February 2011, 15:48
After years of listening to 'The world is going to end" one begins to get the impression some folks look forward to that sort of event, and indeed in their woundedness want it to happen. As if some great unknown justification will occur. Or to be facetious: some people would rather be right than happy.

A sort of collective self loathing (guilt) that is so vast, that the only way it could be probably punished is having a collective end of everything.

Perhaps the world will end for some people. Perhaps some people die and go to hell...but only because they created those conditions for themselves. For the terribly righteous they are smugly content with the notion of the world ending. It's God's right and proper punishment for all evil doer's in the world. What is really is a death wish, a murder intent. That is presumably why some religions are so violent.

greybeard
20th February 2011, 15:54
For the same reason people go in for extreme risk sports, mountain climbing. Everest being the hight of it.
Its the adrenalin high,
Also there is the conviction I am a chosen one it will happen to some one else.
When it does happen I will be proved right.
Oh Yeah!!!

c

777
20th February 2011, 15:59
Fantastic thread Luke, very true.

Only thing is.......

I would venture that "meditating on this issue" any further, will only serve to feed the fear p0rn. When I meditate, I go inside, rather than concerning myself with the worries of others!

To be aware of this is spot on, to meditate on it, hmmm

Arpheus
20th February 2011, 15:59
The thrill of the ride no doubt about it it Greybeard,i agree with Luke people do that almost on a subconscious level without even realizing it tho,but there are still those who are fully aware of the situation ,the thing is a couple thousand isnt enough to **** the paradigm of an entire planet unless those couple thousand are on Jesus level enlightenment level then maybe!

dan i el
20th February 2011, 16:08
Perhaps, sometimes when people get wrapped up in cults foreseeing the end of the world, it serves in the manner of a strange comfort blanket, to take what could be a bitter edge off from existential angst found when considering their own individual physical mortality.

Whitehaze
20th February 2011, 16:12
Thank you Luke and I will meditate on this today.

Luke
20th February 2011, 16:20
(...)I would venture that "meditating on this issue" any further, will only serve to feed the fear p0rn. When I meditate, I go inside, rather than concerning myself with the worries of others! (...)
Did not made myself clear there - I meant how the issue affects our individual lives .. with the goal of lessening it's impact. Thank you for pointing this out


(...) thing is a couple thousand isnt enough to **** the paradigm of an entire planet unless those couple thousand are on Jesus level enlightenment level then maybe!
Well, that IS a thought! Anla'shok (http://babylon5.wikia.com/wiki/Anla%27shok) lead the way


Perhaps, sometimes when people get wrapped up in cults foreseeing the end of the world, it serves in the manner of a strange comfort blanket, to take what could be a bitter edge off from existential angst found when considering their own individual physical mortality.
Keyword here is physical.

9eagle9
20th February 2011, 16:22
Oh but there humor abounds. I once worked with a man named Dave who was convinced the world was going to end back in the 80's. Think it was the time of the harmonic convergence. Dave spent a great deal of time convincing the rest of his co-workers, including myself, that the world was going to end at 11 am on a certain date. Handing out Chick pamphlets, reading us the Bible, quoting scripture when the computers went down.

When the day arrived he made a last appeal for us to join him outside at 10:40 am as he prayed. (For some reason you had to be outside when the world ended). None of us took him up on the offer but we watched him from the office windows. There was just this sort of morbid fascination with the whole matter. We were literally mesmerized by his utter conviction even though we weren't convinced. One of the supervisors came in and seen us all crowded around the windows. He asked if anyone had started payroll.

Nope our AP guy was out in his car waiting for the world to end. One guy even ran upstairs stating his grandmother was buried in the cemetery down the road and wanted to see her bones come flying up out of the grave.

Needless to say 11am came and went without incident. Dave sat there for another two hours in the hopes that the time delay was due to some confusion with time zones. When he finally came back inside his face was like thunderstorm. He. Was. Pissed. ..that the world hadn't ended. Just furious. Little mild manner Dave was a lion in his furty. Of course we all sat there in that sort of awkward silence that such circumstances generates as he stormed back to his desk.

Unfortunately some wit called out, "Oh come on Dave, its not the end of the world."

Dave came unglued and had to be sent home the rest of the day with the warning that "Next time the world ends, do us all a favor, and call in sick."

Words of wisdom.

If you truly thought the world was going to end on a given day, wouldn't you at least take that day off from work?

dan i el
20th February 2011, 16:32
Unfortunately some wit called out, "Oh come on Dave, its not the end of the world."



:third: lol

lake
20th February 2011, 16:36
Maybe its just a sub-conscious knowing, that the way we are forced to live our lives is not correct and this is why we strive for a completion which is not of our own manufacture?


If I awaken a person, the first thing that happens is a creation of fear in them, they then search for a remedy but all they will find is more fear! Did you not go through this?
If you create more fear, then you can only assist to make a worst world. ( thought creates existence, times this by however many millions that you wish )
Pick which ever life ending result that you wish! ( plus 40 others )

I cannot tell my own sisters the things that I feel are true, as this would destroy their beliefs and life's, including their children's hopes.


This place / world would seem to be a place where consent is necessary for things to happen. If you have looked at the laws here at all, then you will know this to be true.

How can you awaken a being without the creation of fear?

gary

davyj0nes
20th February 2011, 16:42
wow, luke if i could thank you twice i would, lol. agreed, everyone should ask themselves if they are addicted to fearpron.

Heartsong
20th February 2011, 20:55
Those that think the world is going to end are hoping for an end to making decisions for themselves or facing the unknown that is before them.

What looks like faith is a manifestation of depression and hopelessness. They throw their free will and power away to an idea that will save them from their own ambivalence and lack of direction.

I was in charge of a project some years ago and one of my key people said that she didn't see any point to working on it because Christ was coming and it wouldn't make any difference. It made a difference to her boss, however.

johnf
20th February 2011, 21:10
I find myself attaching to "the End" belief on various levels. One is my death, similar to the death of someone I want to die on some level, as well as fear I am going to lose myself or others.
The other is the end of the world.

Two types of desire drive those. One is the release from responsibility/release from suffering.I want my and others suffering to end (Divine desire) I want out of the painful learning experience.
The other is to end it prematurely, so I can keep some level of self/selfish desires. If I don't learn the lesson, I get to indulge more , maybe in another life, on another plane.

GK76
20th February 2011, 21:14
I was just about to write something positive about how the world won't end and we'll all live in peace soon due to the sacrifices of the many... but then I noticed the someone has scorched the chocolate chips on my muffin!

DOOOOOOOOOOOM!!!!!!

Well, we all have our ups and downs. Many like to make others feel equally as bad, couple that with a need for attention and we have ourselves a doomsayer. Sadly the real power of those doomsayers is due to the stupidity of those who don't question the evidence.

On a positive note I made 500 for monitoring the computer system at work on the Y2K rollover. I'm sure there is a point in all this typing... I believe it started out as such.

It turns out they are raisins on my muffin, not burnt chocolate chips, and the world makes sense again. :biggrin:

RedeZra
20th February 2011, 21:36
don't worry

death will come

to all of us

; )

Ahkenaten
20th February 2011, 22:33
people in all times have always been convinced they live in End Times - especially around thousand-year calendar shifts. It is also a way of feeling special, as if all the thousands of generations that lived before us, without whom we would even exist, were not "special" too..................it remains to be seen what will happen

PHARAOH
20th February 2011, 23:48
Boy, if only we could think our way out of this mess it would be great. Unfortunately it just doesn't seem to work that way. While the preachers, rabbis and imams tell the masses not to worry "GOD" will handle our buisness in the end; they will just idol-ly or idle-ly stand by and do nothing about what is really happening. Just like "2012". Don't worry masses, the pole shift will take care of the bad guys for us or maybe it's the "Photon Belt", how about "Nubiru and the Annunaki" yeah they'll handle this evil force on our planet for us. What about the "Pleadians" or the "Galactic Federation" will they come and save us? The truth is that although we pretend the "NWO" will end, the reality is that it is the only certainty i see for "2012". After all we are just wating to be saved by some outside force, so just forget about what they are doing to us for in the end they will fail. Well, last i checked even when these "NWO" types get caught they get away with it. They are doing everything they want as planned at not so much as a wisper from us. So for all of us who are watching and waiting for our "Saving Force", start rolling up your sleves because the helping hands we are all waiting for is at the end of our arms. We must talk, outsmart and outthink them every step of the way without relenting for they work 24/7 on thier agenda. Anyone that tells us not to must be either mentally dead or a coward that doesn't want to face the truth because to do so will force them to change and want to do something about it which is exactly what the "NWO" wants for us to do. Idle-ly stand by and wait for false hopes and saviors while they continue to work toward thier goals. People this should be the main topic of conversation where ever we may be and whom ever we come in contact with so as to begin to move humanity to take the necessary steps to defeat the "NWO". Once this is accomplished we can begin to re-create the world we wish to live in. Anything short of first stopping the "NWO" in its tracks will be certain defeat. IMHO of course......

RedeZra
21st February 2011, 00:45
People this should be the main topic of conversation where ever we may be and whom ever we come in contact with so as to begin to move humanity to take the necessary steps to defeat the "NWO".


stay informed and don't fight their wars

if they can't fool us they might try to force us but we don't have to comply


it's not easy for everyone to recognise agents of deception but they are everywhere so don't fall for every little lie you pick up somewhere without earnest investigation

Caterpillars Lens
21st February 2011, 01:38
Hello!
Thank You for those wise words...

The world will end when we will change this sentence into "the world as we know it will end..."
:)
The world as we know it ends every time we close our eyes to dream or to meditate :)
The world as we know it ends every time we learn new beautiful thing, when our imagination helps us create another piece of music, an image or a complex thought..
The world as we know it ends every time we smile to a stranger..
There is nothing wrong with the idea that the world as we know it can end..
because the new world begins
:)
greetings,
CL

PHARAOH
21st February 2011, 13:40
People this should be the main topic of conversation where ever we may be and whom ever we come in contact with so as to begin to move humanity to take the necessary steps to defeat the "NWO".


stay informed and don't fight their wars

if they can't fool us they might try to force us but we don't have to comply


it's not easy for everyone to recognise agents of deception but they are everywhere so don't fall for every little lie you pick up somewhere without earnest investigation

Unfortunately this is our world and our war RedeZra. What are we all willing to sacrafice for a better world? Ask yourself, what will happen to me and my family when I tell the "NWO" no? See if we stop them in thier tracks then you won't have to worry about this in the first place.

RedeZra
21st February 2011, 14:03
Unfortunately this is our world and our war RedeZra. What are we all willing to sacrafice for a better world? Ask yourself, what will happen to me and my family when I tell the "NWO" no? See if we stop them in thier tracks then you won't have to worry about this in the first place.

still there is something deeper in this


"what good is it to win the world if the soul is lost" - Luke 9:25


don't be afraid to say no to the nwo

what's the worst they can do

kill you ?


those who scheme to save their lives

will certainly loose it

9eagle9
21st February 2011, 14:07
The concept of sacrifice is what keeps most people out of the making the world a better place arena. When you shift your perception about things one sees no sacrifice is involved, indeed your world becomes richer. So one has sacrificed perceptions that didn't serve humanity. Breaking down of old stale, static belief systems. When you are unencumbered one is powerful enough to begin to affect positive changes of their own. Get several people together who have altered their perceptions and a powerful synergy is created.

RedeZra
21st February 2011, 14:09
The concept of sacrifice is what keeps most people out of the making the world a better place arena.

nope cowardice does coupled with ignorance !

9eagle9
21st February 2011, 14:13
Its the same thing. Fear of giving something up. But there's nothing to give up but baggage that doesn't serve us anyway. Getting people to understand that is the hard part via their system of attachments is the hard part.

PHARAOH
21st February 2011, 14:22
[QUOTE=PHARAOH;149326]

Unfortunately this is our world and our war RedeZra. What are we all willing to sacrafice for a better world? Ask yourself, what will happen to me and my family when I tell the "NWO" no? See if we stop them in thier tracks then you won't have to worry about this in the first place.

still there is something deeper in this


"what good is it to win the world if the soul is lost" - Luke 9:25


don't be afraid to say no to the nwo

what's the worst they can do

kill you ?


those who scheme to save their lives

will certainly loose it[/QUOTE

Yes and that is the problem, I won't be any good to humanity if im dead. So i will willingly give up all of my conforts and even my life to save yours.

Carmody
21st February 2011, 14:23
Its the same thing. Fear of giving something up. But there's nothing to give up but baggage that doesn't serve us anyway. Getting people to understand that is the hard part via their system of attachments is the hard part.

recall the story about the gods who came to play a game and forgot who they were.

I keep playing that game. I get the attachments..and then loose them.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KJRL4ylEVeU

RedeZra
21st February 2011, 14:23
Yes and that is the problem, I won't be any good to humanity if im dead. So i will willingly give up all of my conforts and even my life to save yours.


don't worry

death will come

to me too

; )

lake
10th February 2012, 15:32
I am posting this in this old thread which is all about stopping fear porn and the feelings which it creates because I do not wish to cause any!
So if you read the thread then hopefully there will be a balance of some type?

Last night I had a dream in which there were 3 images, each with a red border and spoken text, like a ticker tape, over each image.

The first image was of a warship being destroyed and the words were:
March 22 322 the ship will be destroyed.

The second image was of huge explosions with the words:
Limited nuclear exchange in the middle east.

The third image was of masses of people moving as one, with one purpose. The words being:
All the people of the world will together be VERY ANGRY at the controllers who did this.

After this there was more but I do not recall it, all I had was a feeling of unity?

I have only ever had one other dream like this and nothing came of it but I did post about it:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?32014-Told-In-A-Dream--&p=326535#post326535

So I felt that I should share this even though I dont really want to if that could in any way make sense!

jackovesk
10th February 2012, 16:36
Hello!

I would like all of you to meditate on one issue:

Why it is that there is hardly a day without someone predicting the world is going to end?

In western world, this goes at least to John the Mushroomhead, when he wrote/was dictated little bit called "Apocalypse" ...

But even before that, the "end of the world was a important part of Jewish Mysticism.


-----

core idea is there will be time of judgement, and "good" will be separated from "bad"

"chosen" from those not.

Etc.

-----
In Europe, this belief turned into something generally called "Millenarianism"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Millenarianism

Millenarianism (also millenarism) is the belief by a religious, social, or political group or movement in a coming major transformation of society, after which all things will be changed, based on a one-thousand-year cycle. The term spawns from the word "millennium", and is more generically used to refer to any belief centered around 1000 year intervals. Millenarianism is a concept/theme that exists in many cultures and religions. Millennialism is a specific type of Millenarianism as it applies to Christianity.
There is hardly a mystic or seer that do not have his version of how and why we are going to be eradicated from face of the Earth

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we can track this brand of thinking to current times: Y2K fear, now turned 2012 for example.
The other brands are "elite/corporations are gonna kill us"
There is hardly a day without such prediction made somewhere.

-----
Are such thing going to happen? Maybe!
This is not the real question though.

Real question is why YOU consider the issue important enough to give your energy to it.

Remember, we co-create reality as it is. Nothing really happens without our consent. We are the ones that collapse the waves of probability.

Those who think themselves Rulers are aware of that. That is why they want you to believe in things that make them powerful.


-----

Fear is great attractor. Look at the things you do in your life, and see how much of them you do out of fear. Fear of hunger. Fear of being pariah. Fear of being single person that cares about something.

And now look at the issues you bombard yourself with.
They put fluoride into water in order to kill you.
They use TV to scramble your brain.
They make GMO food in order to starve you
They make cellphones in order to fry your brain.
They use HAARP/Chemtrails in order to controll/kill you.

Day after day after day, site after site that says you are not master of your destiny.

Are those things above a problem? sure they are.

But all you do surfing and reading and giving your energy into contemplating the issue.. you give your energy supporting those causes!

This is essence of Fear Porn - the more you are afraid - the more you seek it - the greater hold it have over your life.


-----

Think what your thoughts and actions allow to transpire.
What intentions you project
What things you are attracting into your life
What need to be done to balance all this.

Do not Fear. Communicate. Build.

Congratulations on your 1st real (FEAR PORN) thread...:yes4:

lake
10th February 2012, 18:34
Congratulations on your 1st real (FEAR PORN) thread...

Thanks Jack

Dont see what your saying?

I needed to post this, didn't wish to but had to!
Looked for the best way to do it, and it seemed that to put it here was best!

I never before have had these type of dreams, would you wish me to not post?

eileenrose
11th February 2012, 06:28
How to end fear porn? That isn't going to occur.
How to deal with people who put out fear porn? Everyone does it. Do we have a volunteer to judge us individually?
My biggest beef currently? Channelings/ascension and religion. Each gets people worked up (and charges people for this 'special insight'), but offers no solutions (that actually
work). Then governments (who just keep taking...our money and all the credit -for our ideas-then sells them to overseas buyers.....that includes inventions and economics).

So not really a real issue. Each person has to decide what they take in and what they choose to ignore/not support.
Therefore, nothing to be fixed (not real issue).