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linz2d
6th March 2011, 23:08
Out of all the future predictions and prophecies I have read I must admit that I tend to favour Mother Shiptons prophesies above all. Yet these prophesies aren't complete without their controversial history. Firstly we do not actually know if Ursula Sontheil aka Mother Shipton was an actual person. Most the information we have on her comes from a book published in 1686. The next controversy was due to Charles Hindley who added the following lines "The world to an end shall come, In eighteen hundred and eighty one." he later admitted this fabrication but this is usually the key reason for many to ignore these prophesies.

Yet I find that when I read them they show insight into human nature and parallels can be made with other prophesies and theories about the future. What I have done is tried my best to link historical events(in italic) to the prophesy, to show my interpretation and a sense of time. Something else we have to keep in mind is that Mother Shipton was a Medieval English women so we find that many verses focus on England and that she most likely did not have knowledge of places outside of Europe.



A carriage without horse will go
Disaster fill the world with woe.
In London, Primrose Hill shall be
In centre hold a Bishop's See

Around the world men's thoughts will fly
Quick as the twinkling of an eye.
Oceanic telegraph cables from the 1870
And water shall great wonders do
How strange. And yet it shall come true.
First house powered by hydroelectricity 1878

Through towering hills proud men shall ride
No horse or ass move by his side.
First steam locomotive tunnel 1804
Beneath the water, men shall walk
Diving suite invented 1837
Shall ride, shall sleep, shall even talk.
Submarine's can be dated to 1620s but to match the above description then it would have to be around 1860s
And in the air men shall be seen
In white and black and even green
First steam powered airships 1852 or maybe the line refers to hot air balloons

A great man then, shall come and go
For prophecy declares it so.
… have no idea who this could be

In water, iron, then shall float
As easy as a wooden boat
Iron/steel hull boats, mid 19th century
Gold shall be seen in stream and stone
In land that is yet unknown.
Perhaps the California Gold Rush but there were many gold rushes throughout the world in the 19th century.

And England shall admit a Jew
You think this strange, but it is true
The Jew that once was held in scorn
Shall of a Christian then be born.
I believe that this verse refers Benjamin Disraeli who became a British Prime Minister in 1874, he was Jewish up until the age of 13 then he converted to the Church of England.

A house of glass shall come to pass
In England. But Alas, alas
The Palm house built 1848, Royal Botanic Gardens, Kew.
A war will follow with the work
Where dwells the Pagan and the Turk
This is when I believe that we have to look at these lines from the mediaeval perspective, as their understandings of countries and nations were limited. There was the Second Anglo-Sikh War in 1848, the war took place in the Punjab present day India/Pakistan. I am assuming from a medieval perspective that a Turk would be referring to a person from the Islamic faith and pagan is referring to Hindu.

These states will lock in fiercest strife
And seek to take each others life.
When North shall thus divide the south
And Eagle build in Lions mouth
Then tax and blood and cruel war
Shall come to every humble door.

Three times shall lovely sunny France
Be led to play a bloody dance
I take the view that “bloody dance” are wars.
Before the people shall be free
Three tyrant rulers shall she see.
Louis XIV-War of the Spanish Succession, Louis XV-War with Austria, Louis XVI - French Revolution

Three rulers in succession be
Each springs from different dynasty.
Napoleon Bonaparte, Louis XVIII, Charles X (may need revised)
Then when the fiercest strife is done
England and France shall be as one.
“France and England shall be as one” does not necessarily mean they will become one. I think what is meant is that the long running conflict between both countries has come to an end.

The British olive shall next then twine
In marriage with a German vine.
There has been many instances since 1714 where German royalty and British Royalty have intertwined. I do believe though that these lines more likely relate to either Queen Victoria or George V due to the dating of the previous and future verses.
Men walk beneath and over streams
Fulfilled shall be their wondrous dreams.

For in those wondrous far off days
The women shall adopt a craze
To dress like men, and trousers wear
And to cut off their locks of hair
They'll ride astride with brazen brow
As witches do on broomstick now.
There is some evidence to show a craze like this started around the 1910-20s and there is high chance in my view that it may have some connection to the women feminists movement.

And roaring monsters with man atop
Does seem to eat the verdant crop
First self propelled Combine harvester, 1911
And men shall fly as birds do now
First propelled flight 1903
And give away the horse and plough.

There'll be a sign for all to see
Be sure that it will certain be.
Then love shall die and marriage cease
Divorce rates have drastically risen since the 1900s
And nations wane as babes decrease
Fertility and birth rates per 1000 have been steadily decreasing since the 1900s.

And wives shall fondle cats and dogs
And men live much the same as hogs.


In nineteen hundred and twenty six
Hitler's Volume 2 Mein Kampf was published
Build houses light of straw and sticks.
A warning of the coming blitz
For then shall mighty wars be planned
And fire and sword shall sweep the land.

When pictures seem alive with movements free
Cinema had already been around for many years now, WWII actually held back the release of the television
When boats like fishes swim beneath the sea,
When men like birds shall scour the sky
Then half the world, deep drenched in blood shall die.
Half the world did not die in World War 2 but is this a literary devise or maybe this is how it appeared to the seer.

For those who live the century through
In fear and trembling this shall do.
Flee to the mountains and the dens
To bog and forest and wild fens.

For storms will rage and oceans roar
When Gabriel stands on sea and shore
And as he blows his wondrous horn
Old worlds die and new be born.
Tropical Storms can stand on sea and shore however they only have female names but in the days when these prophesies where written there was no feminine form for Gabriel. But today we have Gabrielle. And there have already been a few storms given this name. The names are cycled every 6 years and the next time Gabrielle will be used will probably be early 2013.


(I believe from here onwards are events which have not happened, so it is all up to interpretation)
A fiery dragon will cross the sky
Six times before this earth shall die
This could be a number of phenomena from solar flares, comets, supernova, superwave or something not thought of.. Because the earth revolves on its axis the “Dragon” may appear as if it is crossing the sky.
Mankind will tremble and frightened be
for the sixth heralds in this prophecy.

For seven days and seven nights
Man will watch this awesome sight.
The tides will rise beyond their ken(know)
To bite away the shores and then
The mountains will begin to roar
And earthquakes split the plain to shore.

And flooding waters, rushing in
Will flood the lands with such a din
That mankind cowers in muddy fen
And snarls about his fellow men.

He bares his teeth and fights and kills
And secrets food in secret hills
And ugly in his fear, he lies
To kill marauders, thieves and spies.

Man flees in terror from the floods
And kills, and rapes and lies in blood
And spilling blood by mankinds hands
Will stain and bitter many lands

And when the dragon's tail is gone,
Man forgets, and smiles, and carries on
To apply himself - too late, too late
For mankind has earned deserved fate.

His masked smile - his false grandeur,
Will serve the Gods their anger stir.
And they will send the Dragon back
To light the sky - his tail will crack
What is clear, is that this event will happen for a period of time, then vanish and after a interval will reappear suddenly.
Upon the earth and rend the earth
And man shall flee, King, Lord, and serf.

But slowly they are routed out
To seek diminishing water spout
And men will die of thirst before
The oceans rise to mount the shore.

And lands will crack and rend anew
You think it strange. It will come true.

And in some far off distant land
Some men - oh such a tiny band
Small group of people
Will have to leave their solid mount
And span the earth, those few to count,
Who survives this (unreadable) and then
Begin the human race again.

But not on land already there
But on ocean beds, stark, dry and bare
Not every soul on Earth will die
As the Dragons tail goes sweeping by.

Not every land on earth will sink
But these will wallow in stench and stink
Of rotting bodies of beast and man
Of vegetation crisped on land.

But the land that rises from the sea
Will be dry and clean and soft and free
Of mankinds dirt and therefore be
The source of man's new dynasty.

And those that live will ever fear
The dragons tail for many year
This may suggest that it has happened before and will happen again in the future.
But time erases memory
You think it strange. But it will be.

And before the race is built anew
A silver serpent comes to view
And spew out men of like unknown
Sounds like aliens to me.
To mingle with the earth now grown
Cold from its heat and these men can
Enlighten the minds of future man.

To intermingle and show them how
To live and love and thus endow
The children with the second sight.
The second sight is a mediaeval phrase which relates to the ability to perceive things which cannot be seen with the normal 5 senses. Today we would call it having psychic abilities,
A natural thing so that they might
Grow graceful, humble and when they do
The Golden Age will start anew.

The dragon's tail is but a sign
For mankind's fall and man's decline.
And before this prophecy is done
I shall be burned at the stake, at one
My body singed and my soul set free
You think I utter blasphemy
You're wrong. These things have come to me
This prophecy will come to be.

If these prophesies are true it seems that the human race may almost be wiped out and that extraterrestrials might guide the human race to a golden age but only once such things as governments and countries no longer exist.


Well, we can only wait and see
If this prophesy will come to be.

:drum:

Jean-Marie
7th March 2011, 00:38
I read somewhere recently that we are entering the sixth extinction. Has anyone else heard that? When I heard it I remembered the line in Mother Shipton , "six times before the earth shall die".

Charlie Pecos
7th March 2011, 01:16
I spend an inordinate amount of time contemplating how our world will change. The only thing that seems to even come close to logical, is for the human population to be greatly reduced through natural cyclical means in order to facilitate a new understanding and implementation of a highly evolved society, one in which all of the old ways are discarded as unnecessary and destructive, in favor of ideals very much in tune with the planet, the Creator, and the universe.

Very interesting post, thank you.

Lost Soul
7th March 2011, 01:18
How very relevant to today. It reminds me of The Emerald Tablets of Thoth, Tablet XII:


Then shall there come unto man the great warfare
that shall make the Earth tremble and shake in its course.
Aye, then shall the Dark Brothers
open the warfare between Light and the night.

When man again shall conquer the ocean and fly
in the air on wings like the birds;
when he has learned to harness the lightning,
then shall the time of warfare begin.
Great shall the battle be twixt the forces,
great the warfare of darkness and Light.

Nation shall rise against nation
using the dark forces to shatter the Earth.
Weapons of force shall wipe out the Earth-man
until half of the races of men shall be gone.
Then shall come forth the Sons of the Morning
and give their edict to the children of men, saying:
O men, cease from thy striving against thy brother.
Only thus can ye come to the Light.
Cease from thy unbelief, O my brother,
and follow the path and know ye are right.

Link (http://www.crystalinks.com/emerald12bw.html)

It's very similar to the Talmud of Jmmanuel (pages 118-119, Bridger House edition, 2005):




25:24 There will soon be greater grief than there has ever been since the beginning of the world, and never will there be such grief again.

25:25 If these days were not shortened, no one would remain alive; but the days will be shortened for the sake of the spirit and of life.

25:26 This is for the sake of the people who serve the truth and the laws.

25:27 There will be howling and chattering of teeth when this time comes, because of people's lack of understanding and greed.

25:28 They will build machines made from metal for use in the air, on the water and on land, to kill off one another.

25:29 They will thorw heavy projectiles out of these machines made of metal, across the land and the cites,

25:30 and fire will come out of these projectiles and burn the world so that not much will be spared.

25:31 They will put the conerstones of life into the projectiles to kindle the deadly fire.

25:32 "If at that theim epowerful people did not appear as did the celestial sons long ago, in order to bring a standstill the unobstructed madness of the deluded dictators, truly, I am telling you: No human being would survivle.

25:33 Since the human races will at that time comprise far more than ten times five hundred million people, great parts of them will be eradicated and killed.

25:34 This is what the law ordains, because people have violated it and will violate it again into the distant future.

The Truth Is In There
7th March 2011, 08:56
In nineteen hundred and twenty six
Build houses light of straw and sticks.
For then shall mighty wars be planned
And fire and sword shall sweep the land.

When pictures seem alive with movements free
When boats like fishes swim beneath the sea,
When men like birds shall scour the sky
Then half the world, deep drenched in blood shall die.

For those who live the century through
In fear and trembling this shall do.
Flee to the mountains and the dens
To bog and forest and wild fens.

i've noticed that in most if not all historical predictions the timing is 12-13 years off. if we take the 1926 date as her predicted start date for ww2 (or the planning thereof), and "the century through" part as meaning "around the year 2000" then she's also 12-13 years off the mark. i believe edgar cayce, nostradamus and several others also predicted the end times to be around the year 2000 and while nothing happaned at that time their predictions seem to come true now. seems that only the maya got the timing right but many of them are truthful about what's going to happen.

witchy1
7th March 2011, 12:00
A fiery dragon will cross the sky
Six times before this earth shall die

Does anyone else think this might be a comet coming in for its 6th visit????

TimelessDimensions
25th March 2011, 08:49
"This prophecy will come to be." - mother shabooboo

Nobody knows "the" future, there are many possible/probable futures gathering momentum at any one moment.

Everyone experiences a different future based on their own expectations.