My ET contact experiences (discussions/Q&A panel etc.)

[OnyxKnight]

Hi there

A lot of members requested that I start a thread of my own, regarding this, because they thought the information I sometimes provide in other threads, could be explained and or expanded in more detail, given I have my own thread for that.

I hesitated to do this (didn't get me anywhere constructively in other forums, why should here?), but decided I would try it out and just let it flow from there.

The information presented in this thread, like everything else, are subject to criticism and objective thought. I do welcome both here. As I too keep a healthy level of skepticism regarding certain things (some which are to do with my own contacts too), I would advise the rest to do this as well. Take everything you read here with a grain of salt. If you resonate with the information provided here, that's great. If not, that's okay too.

I will not, on the other hand, tolerate offensive posts directed personally at me, or any other members who may wish to post on this thread. If you don't even like these kinda of discussions, it would be best not to engage in one, for the sole purpose of mockery.

People have a hard time believing individuals had contact with one alien civilization, let alone 27 more. I feel like Icke and when he dropped the 'Reptoid bomb'. He was paid close attention to til he did that. But I better got that part of my story out now in the beginning, rather than later.

In essence, I've had contact with representatives of 28 different ET cultures. Some are quite a long while here, some are new, and some have been here from the start. ETs don't have all the answers, contrary to popular opinion, so in turn, I wouldn't have them either. But like anyone else, I too, am researching things whenever I can in order to expand my knowledge and give depth to my experience.

I remember seeing UFOs ever since I was a small child, at age where I couldn't even read. Blurred memories, but are still there. Am not sure why I happened to notice them and other people didn't. Didn't know what I was looking at till so many years later, when I found out what exactly was that I was looking at as a kid. I use the term UFOs deliberately, so as people to know what I'm referring to (alien craft). They are not unidentified for me though. Not anymore.

I want to stress, that this is contact, not abduction scenarios, or astral traveling and similar things. I'm talking about face to face contact. I just wanted to point that out, for less confusion.

My first experience started when I just turned 9. Few days after my birthday. I was going back from school a bit sad about an event that happened that day, when I noticed a couple of people. A man and a woman. Dressed smart, they looked normal (Except for the slightly broader nose than the natives of my country), but I got that vibe that there was something else, very different about them. They kept looking at me as I was walking and I stopped to the sidewalk, waiting for the traffic light to go green, As soon as the light became green, the woman spoke to me, asking me why I was sad. Without much hesitation I told them that I was disappointed because the opinions of kids are never heard, even less respected, by the older folk.

The woman than asked, "What caused this disappointment to manifest today?", with me saying that it was my biology teacher, with whom I got into a serious argument, regarding the existence of the human soul. And that I got an 'F' as a result of that. I complained a bit on how the world is cruel, and that I wanted to leave school. I slowly started hate it. The man then asked me, if I would like to know why certain things are the way they are in our world, what are its secrets, and how that can change. I said yes, of course. They invited me in an old red yugo car, and I went inside, without questions or doubts. Not sure why, it seemed like an optimal level of trust has been reached long time ago, and I didn't need to think before I decide.

They drove to a remote area of the city, that still had some visible damages from the heave earthquake scenario that struck that city in the early 60s. Few damaged houses up front the car and a lot of trees was the place where they stopped. We got out and they went near the trees and, not sure what they did, but a large shaft opened, and a tube-like elevator appeared. I was nine, so the only other reaction other than "... That's odd" was "That's so cool!", so I just went inside it with them and we descended below. When we reached the desired floor, I noticed a large underground structure. I today know it as an old research facility. It is largely abandoned and unusable, but some parts of it have been 'renovated' for usage. The old parts were dusty, dirty, and with stains and water. The renovated ones looked like straight out of a sci-fi movie.

We entered a yellow-litted square room, with a table and three seats around it. We sat, and started a conversation. By now I regarded them as some sort of special agents, like I have seen so many times in movies in that age. We talked about the place, I found out that it is being used for experiments on the flora we have on Earth, about school, the fun or boredom I feel there, teacher-student interactions etc. They asked me if I would consider one day for them to be my "teachers", and I gladly accepted (was feeling very happy along their side, and after all, they did hear me out, with all that bothered me). They then said that they had an urgent matter they needed to attend to, and that they would visit me again in a couple of months time. They dropped me off home, without asking me where they should go to do that. Like they knew where I lived.

A little over a couple of months later I wanted to lend a book from a library so I went to the local one and, there they were, inside, waiting for me, almost like they knew would be lending a book that day. The weird thing about them was, wherever they went, they always carried hats and sunglasses. Even when inside. But nobody payed too much attention to that. Except for me. I found that to be very odd. They also presented themselves to others as employees in the library. I thought it was a part of their operation here, as agents. The man then came to me as I was looking around the books in the shelf, asking me if I was looking for anything specific. I told him I wanted to lend Carl Sagan's 'Contact' book, and asked if they had a copy. He smiled, asking me why do I wish to lend that book specifically. I explained to him that I watched the movie adaptation of the book, with Jodie Foster as the protagonist, and that I was so blown away with the story, I wanted to read the book as well.

The man went to get me a copy and the woman asked me to sit down and have a conversation till the man returns. We started talking about extraterrestrial contact with humanity, than switched off to communication between individuals, and then branch off to language in general. The discussion was quite a serious one, considering my age at the time. The convo involved topics such as the nature of language and communication, about the formation of dialects, grammar, translation and how needy or not it really is etc. We came to a conclusion that language is a construct, like most things with humanity. Translation gave birth to a new topic, regarding universal communication tool. That's where we got into telepathy. And they explained to me that telepathy is the nearest to perfection example of a universal language. And no need for translators if one has telepathy. I didn't think it exists until they confirmed that by talking inside my head.

Sometimes it sounds like you are talking with yourself. Only you know those thoughts did not originate inside your head. Most of the time, you can recognize a distinct voice. And I knew it was them talking because I saw them nod, smile, and raise eyebrows while the telepathy was going on. And, I have to say its so awesome when you get to hear somebody else talking inside your head :). Imagine a "chatroom" inside your head. That's how it would feel like. Instant thoughts between individuals. A weaker form of telepathy supposedly works just by the process of give-receive intentions and emotions. Advanced form uses words, symbolism, and various forms of imagery, along side the empathic aspect of it.

But since I never was good with such a communication, and that coupled with excited state spells trouble. They have decided to cut down on words (because they came off twisted, intermingled, without any grammatical structure etc.), and introduce more symbolism and imagery into that. even after 13 years I'm still practicing. I barely can communicate with them, and even less, with humans. It has happened in some rare, random occasions, but not something I can do by will.

Being too excited for the strictly calm atmosphere in the library, we decided to continue outside. They had that old red yugo car again (which was weird, they dressed smart very often, which would indicate they had money, yet they drove a silly old car around), that seemed to work perfectly as though it was newly purchased. The man didn't even pay attention to the traffic at all, nor other cars and traffic lights. His eyes were focused strictly on the road ahead, yet it seemed he was aware of his surroundings pretty well, even though he never looked. They drove me back home and I couldn't wait for the next time, which they said would be in a few months time.

On the 11th of April, the man was waiting for me near the library entrance (the library became the spot where we usually met). This time he had a very serious face, that was unusual for him, because he was always smiling, happy, with a lot of energy to him. When we got into his car, he told me this contact will be very short, because some problems have arisen regarding his 'Mother Star'. That word, 'Mother Star', got me really confused so I had to ask him what he meant by that. He said that he is not who I think he is, and that he is a being from another planet. He said he planned to tell me that after a few contact dates, but unfortunately some recent events lead him to do this sooner. He took off his hat and his sunglasses, and to my surprise, I found myself looking at a man who had pointy ears, and very fierce, orange eyes. I also later found out that his people use some cream to make their skin look more "Caucasian-like". Their real skin is ... well .... "tann-ish". I didn't find myself in shock, as far as I remember. I was surprised, but not shocked.

I immediately thought of Star Trek's Vulcans when I saw him, and he started laughing, most likely because of reading my thoughts again. He told me to research Gene Roddenberry and his idea for the TV Show, where it originated, who he contacted etc., to see how the show was created. Apparently, the Vulcan race in Star Trek is based on these guys. I found out his name as well - Jarek, and the woman I found out was his sister, Ania. They are extraterrestrials who came here from Epsilon Eridani. They drive their origins from the Durre Menthor system (Or their "Mother Star"), and are one of the most developed tau cetian colonies. I later found out that the problem they had was that the Tall Greys from Rigel have again destroyed (implying it has happened before too) a planet in the Durre Menthor (Tau Ceti) system, and they were needed back there.

We got in the car and drove off towards the eastern mountain where his sister was waiting for us near a spacecraft. As he drove, he said that this meeting will be not only short, but the last for this year too, to which I found myself quite sad. When we arrived, Ania was preparing the spacecraft for flight, trying to bring down some grass and bushes that were covering the scout craft (that's how they refer to it). We climbed up in and we took off in the air. We got to what was told to me as being the carrier craft in orbit around Earth, where I was told I would be meeting two more representatives from other worlds. One was a semi-humanoid who's people currently reside in the Van Maanen's Star system, though draw origins from Sirius B, and the other one was a non-humanoid species, a sentient, sapient aquatic race from the star system of Sadir (Gamma Cygni).

The civilization from Van Maanen's star have red skin (very much red, like tomato red, not Native American red), and they also have pointy ears and broad noses like Ania and Jarek. They call themselves the Mekodem, their culture being divided in clans, and the representatives I met are from the family called Makadi, a main branch of the clan they call Makadesch (supposedly one of the oldest clans). They are the ones I have had the most contact with along with Jarek and Ania. The two males of this race I contact mostly are the Koren and Akiva. It seems that the culture as a whole is pretty much benevolent, from what I have gathered so far. They used to be very much reserved with information when we had contact in the past, but as time went by they became more open about almost everything I was interested. They are one of the races that had to learn my written and spoken language, for communication purposes, as opposed to their language with morphing symbols (which I still barely understand, to this day). Their culture is very much dominated by colors and symbolism. They have very strong, lively, concentrated colors on their clothes,. In some aspects, the clothes remind me of what the people in India wear. They work closely with the humanoid groups from Tau Ceti, Epsilon Eridani and Alpha Centauri.

Since the Mekodem being originally from Sirius B, these guys used to have a pretty oppressive political system, one version of which, still exists in the Sirius B area, till this day. It was a shared monarchy. But as things started to escalate to the worst there, before the conflicts arose to wars, they left Sirius B and colonized Van Maanen's Star, where they now practice what would best be described as "conscious social nepotism". I'm not sure we have a term for their type of political system, so brewing a few words together won't successfully bring the nature of their organized society. Their society is drowned in clanship, and family circles. Each clan and the group of its 'familiars' rests on top with the most votes. Only other clans vote. The ruling family always chooses the oldest in their 'House' to represent them in the circle of 'Allied Worlds'. Groups of families who share family history together are 'Housed' under one clan. They are a lot more organized, and conscious about what they do now, and they rarely engage in any disagreements between each other, let alone conflicts.

The Mekodem have 30 meter scout crafts that resemble the lozenge rhombus. They have bicone shaped Motherships of 500 miles. No carrier craft. The scouts are inside the Mothership. The Makadi trade with traders of other trade ships, they don't have their own.

The aquatic culture I call Valou, vaguely resembles a cross between squid and a whale, only with a few more tentacles and more flippers for better maneuvering in the water. They stay in spherical water tanks which can move in any direction depending on will-power and they communicate with other races using a wide range of symbols which they produce by emitting certain vibrational frequencies on a round device, that has a strange gel-like liquid, in the form of a dish. The symbols are similar to what we have know here as cymatics. The sound tones they produce are similar in a way to the basic binaural beats. They communicate this way with most other developing races because those races are not telepathic. And we are considered a 'developing race' by them. They have a lot of small "towns" below the Atlantic and the Indian ocean 9some of the strangest USO reports are for their craft), and they are very much involved in restoring some of the flora and fauna that has died out there or is on the brink of extinction. The Valou create complete water worlds around other star systems. They literally create water heavens, on each unpopulated star system they find, and to date there are 447 planets like this that are created by them. All oceanic worlds.

They have been busy building these worlds mostly in star systems of the the constellation of Cygnus and Andromeda. Recently (in their concept of time/existential duration), they are busy creating such planets around M-dwarf stars. They seem to be one of the most 'preservationist type' of civilizations out there who collect life forms from dying planets and/or star systems and relocate them in more habitable ones. In ancient times before the rise of oxygen levels, they have transported a semi-sentient amphibian species native to this planet, allegedly, to Neptune at first. And then taking it to colonize other water worlds of their creation. They also were the first ones to discover the SuperWormhole in the vicinity of Jupiter. Dozens of successful aquatic and amphibian civilizations have been created by them too, just wanted to note that.

The Valou have white spheroidal craft (I think they are around 200 meters in diameter) with pointy end that are used for traveling. They have white spherical probes (not sure how many), and their motherships are white, oval shaped craft of aprox. 4000 miles in length. They make their craft out of a strange white material found under the oceans of their homeworld. It looks and feels like rubber to the touch. The material has a pearly glow to it, when you look at it, but when you touch it, its a bit soft and curvy like a rubber. The inside is more or less like a swiss cheese, it has holes and hallways filled with water, oxygen, carbon dioxide and methane. I think other then the water, the other chambers seem to be made for other life forms. I noticed that there are glass-like wires around the corridors and the chambers, that glow with a blue light. The blue light passes in some interesting patterns patterns through the glass wires, almost like information is being sent. The Valou motherships have the largest "aquariums" and genetic banks with aquatic life that I have seen so far. There is a "form" of dolphin species that has evolved differently in the environment of another planet, that they keep specimens in their craft. Its blue skinned, green eyes, with large nostrils, larger front flippers, and smaller back flipper.

The Valou have had huge interests in our oceans here because they found saltwater, something they have not found very often in the star systems they have traveled. Of course, there are many other planets with saltwater, but they are more rare, especially in in the majority of stars in the constellations of Antlia, Cygnus and Caelum. They have noticed, while visiting our Solar system in the distant past, that sodium is present on Earth, by reading the signature of it in their instruments. They come from sweetwater oceans, so they are fascinated how life can develop in saltwater, since sodium is very toxic for them. That's why salt as we know it, is regarded as a rarity by them. The crystal form is regarded as a "spice". They use it as a supplement with coral-like life forms when creating an aroma-filled atmosphere for their homes.

The Valou have something akin to a "social anarchism" type of society. 'A.W.' representatives are chosen by popular vote of its member civilizations.

Also, since we talk about society and craft here too, the people from Epsilon Eridani, have a parliamentary system. A 'high council of five' is elected who presides over three other councils situated in three different planets in the system. Those three councils are each represented by seven individuals, and they are involved with the worlds they are situated. Only the high council of five can decide on the whole three inhabited worlds in the system. Only one of the 'high council of five' is an ambassador representing the star system they inhabit within the body of the 'Allied Worlds'.

This "ambassadorship" bit is apparently an example of interstellar and/or intergalactic form of politics that has nothing to do with an individual portrayal of politics that the beings in these system have put in order. Even if we become part of the 'Allied Worlds', only one human would act as an official representative of mankind, and depending on our choosing, the representative may have to be subject to a mandate role there.

Those from Durre Menthor and Epsilon Eridani seem to have had a large influence on many cultural and genetic aspects of the present-day Slavic nations of Earth like: Russia, Bosnia, the Czechs, Ukraine, Croatia, Serbia, Slovakia, Macedonia, Belarus, Hungary, Bulgaria, Slovenia, etc. and have been part of the ET colonies we have named in myth as Atlantis and Hyperborea. They are also engaged in diplomatic negotiations with some governments on Earth for which they haven't disclosed names (not yet anyway). I know the countries are European though, but that's all. They also had a part as one of the ET races that added the genetic material in the long term experiments with the creation of mankind as we know it.

Contacts soon resumed and happened in periods of 4 months at a time, and before the end of the year, along with the humanoids and the Valou, I met another, very alien, non-humanoid species who have managed to establish a physical, free will, symbiotic relationship with the Valou civilization, and who come from the system of Al Tarf (Beta Cancri). There are a few species that come from the same planet, yet the same designation is used. They are a planimal species, meaning they are have a mix of plant and animal characteristics. They are smaller than humans, barely a couple of feet tall. They are referred to as 'rooters' (the closest translation I could get from the term they use). They can 'root' with a race at least slightly compatible with their biochemical basis, and they boost the host's lifespan, health and immunity, for an exchange, of intake of additional proteins and gases which the host will have to consume on regular bases. It just so happens, the Beta Cancrians seem to love methane, which the Valou dispose as a byproduct, so the racial match-making seems quite perfect. I learned a lot from these guys. One thing being the symbiosis between two sentient races. How two species can live together, not only as separate entities, but as one. A good lesson about unity there.

The Altarfians are doing some genetic experimentation with the native flora here. Concerned that some of the flora is slowly dying out and they are trying to fix the problem from a genetic aspect. They are also working with several other people in the world allegedly, where they plan on resurrecting some ancient flora that existed before and at the time of the dinosaurs, which could have some quite profound and very positive effects on nature and humanity if successful.

I recently had the chance to see one of their craft. One of the bigger vessels anyway (not sure if it is the Mothership-type craft). It looks like a black, pointed sphere, with texture like it has spikes and thorns on it. Some of the hind area of the craft starts to glow red when they travel. Apparently, with strictly biologically based engines, they have achieved traveling capabilities 3 times the speed of light. The Altarifian society is revolved around the basis of what could be termed, ecological collectivism.

The next year, along with Ania and Jarek, in the scout craft, had came a "bigfoot-like" creature who is representative of a species, which is a descendant of a race that used to live in the Sirius B system, and they live alongside the people of Epsilon Eridani, on the two planets that were found suitable in the system there. There is a third planet (moon of the fourth in orbit) that is being terraformed by them as we speak (these beings also seem to have a sub-species in the system of Ta Tsun (Psi Ursae Majoris)). They monitor wildlife in forests, and reinvigorate damaged plants and herbs. Other ET races refer to these guys as "Sabarak". Their society is loosely based on a parliamentary system similar to the one in Epsilon Eridani.

That year I also met three representatives of the human-like Tau Cetians, who are not that much different than the humanoids from Epsilon Eridani, but they seem a bit more shorter on average (5 feet height on average, as opposed to 6 to 7 feet tall for the Epsilon Eridani people). It was two men, and one woman. The younger guy introduced himself to me as Jasha, the slightly older man as Kresimir, and the female Milena. From what I gathered, in their culture, they let their kids wear what we would most likely label 'Vulcan-like' hair-styles. The young adults wear very short haircuts, in some ways with similar styles like the modern African American style these days, and the elderly people let their hair and beard grow in great length. Letting hair grow in length is a symbolical thing they do when they enter the 'Age of Maturity and Wisdom' as they refer to it. Two of these people have traveled the Slavic countries in old times and spawned the creation of the modern-day Slavic alphabet and written language. They were regarded as teachers among our people, and are known as St. Cyrill and St. Methodios. They were also involved for a brief period in Egypt along with the Sirian civilizations, where they educated the middle class people on trade, writing, various crafts, herding, medicine etc.

The middle writing on the 'Rosetta Stone' is their own work. Its the oldest form of the pre-Slavic language ever used in writing, and all the Slavic languages and their variations are descended from it. They have spread it from nation to nation during the course of history.

The Tau Ceti scout craft is also disk-shaped, but its smaller, around 12 meters in diameter. They don't use probes that much, when they research the soil, the water or the air, they do it themselves, if the conditions of the planet allow that. The carrier craft, with 800 meters in diameter, which is also disk-shaped, can carry 8 scout crafts. They have slightly larger craft that they use for transportation and trade only, which for a lack of a better word I can call them 'trade ships'. They are about 1400 meters in diameter. The Tau Ceti people don't have motherships.

The conversations with Kresimir, Jasha and Milena will be expanded upon another time.

Sometimes these contacts would make you experience really strange things. Each contact you get intense energy coming from them that makes it hard to breathe, gets you excited or makes you faint. There are times when I would feel drawn to place for no apparent reason at all, and actually find some of them waiting for me. One such time when my scheduled contact was to happen, I found myself going to a place I have never seen or been before, yet I knew exactly where to turn, or stop by, and .... well ..... nothing. It seemed that way at first though. It just so happened, after I got there, and there was nobody in sight, and I was tired of all that driving, I guess I "fell asleep" or something. I woke up what I think was, hours later, in a really strange environment of dark green "hall" with no visible floor in sight that I could see/stand/lie on (yet I was laying down, on seemingly invisible floor/material?), and the atmosphere seemed like liquid around me, I could feel my hair move as if I was underwater, but strangely I was able to breathe quite well.

While I was examining the surroundings in a circular manner, and before I completed the circle I noticed a luminous appearance on my left. It seemed like a "plasmic" form of life, something I don't think any contactee has yet seen so far. I fainted at the very sight of it. It was too much. When I woke up, three more were there, two on each side. One of them approached me, and touched my head with what seemed to look like a "tentacle", and that's how communication was initiated. After that touch I slightly calmed down because my heart was beating very fast like I had just ran a marathon. They look 'demonic' and 'ghostly', but they seem quite passive and non-hostile from my experience. Its also believed by various ET groups that they are probably the only race of that type in this galaxy, and are probably one of the oldest extant civilizations in the galaxy as well, predating even the ET species I call Methuselahns.

The craft of the race from Omicron Scorpii is slightly pear-shaped. The outside is dark-red with a slight glow, and the inside is dark green. The funny thing about the environment in which they live, is that the atmosphere is "liquid". You can feel your clothes and the hair on your head move around like you are under water, but you don't feel any liquid around yourself, and you can breathe perfectly. Its really bizarre. I haven't spent much time on their ship thus far, so I don't know of any other weird/interesting things about their craft.

Their homeworld is the the seventh planet of the system of Omicron Scorpii, and they told me that there is a huge artificial body, that has its origins from their system, that will be passing through our Solar system in the intermediate years (2005-2014), but that we do not confuse it with Nibiru. This planetary body is not hostile and will only do research work around Jupiter and Saturn as it passes them and will continue with its trajectory heading towards Mars' orbit and continue towards the Barnard's Star system for a short time, before departing for Wolf 1061. They are currently still in the vicinity of Jupiter. They are to collect resources from these systems and conduct some atmosphere research. They resemble yellowish "ghostly" jellyfish and are quite "gaseous" looking them from a distance. On a more serious note though, they do have some very good advantages in their physiology that many life forms of the strictly solid physical world here cannot brag about. After an hour, I seem to have fallen asleep again and when I woke up I was in my bed.

In August 2001, along with Jasha came two representatives of the Toliman (Alpha Centauri) group of civilizations. One who is quite humanoid and human looking, just like Jasha, Jarek or Ania, from Toliman A, and one who had some amphibian biological features, which I later found out were partially done modifications for some of the environments in the Toliman B inhabited planets. The Toliman A people are almost indistinguishable from humans, except for their slightly longer fingers, and that some of them have silver-shade colored eyes. They are also very tall. Those in Toliman B are a subspecies which can live underwater as well as on ground, and also have cities as on ground, so below water as well. They have gills near the bottom of the neck, by the throat, and they have webbed feet and hands. They also have few layers of protective membranes on their eyes too.

Many of the smaller underwater crafts (many current USO cases) that have been noticed here are actually theirs. There is a small faction of them that have been involved with the Aldebarans with the conquest of the 'Ashtar Collective', but unsuccessful at that, they have become a part of them. Do NOT trust all the humanoids from Alpha Centauri, unless there are humanoids of one of the other systems I mentioned that accompany them. Some of the manipulative schmucks of this system have contacted Eisenhower too. Some of them have claimed origins from Venus too, back in the 50s. Anyway, the original colonizers of the Alpha Centauri system have their origins from Vega, and actually used to live in the Theta Centauri system, before their colonized planet cooled down as a result of moving away from the star. They later discover the Alpha Centauri and Sol systems, and they colonize them (this happens waaay back in our past). Today, from what I have been told, there are in total 21 different civilizations in the Alpha Centauri systems, which are only second to Sirius in the multicultural aspect of society. There are 13 inhabited planets in total around the three stars, and another one is being terraformed in Alpha Centauri B, and from what I have been told, if humanity survives the times of tyranny that are before us, we will earn that planet as a potential human colony world. They really want to see humanity rise to its potential, and I hope that day arrives soon. After our long conversations involving arcology and underwater architecture, they left me near the mountain where I usually meet them.

The Toliman civilizations have a commonwealth-like system consisted of all of the 21 different cultures. On the top of the commonwealth-like system are 21 representatives of each of the cultures. In terms of the 'Allied Worlds', a random member from a certain culture is chosen to represent the star system. Each meeting of the 'Allied Worlds' results with a member of a different culture than the member of a culture that was representing the star system the previous meeting. All 21 individuals represent the will, intentions and opinions of each respective culture in the system of Toliman.

The Alpha Centauri culture I contacted have spherical scout craft and spherical probes. Each scout craft can carry six research probes. The carrier craft are very large silver disks, that can carry six scout crafts in them. They have a dock area for maximum of two scout ships on the top of the carrier craft, but this is mostly used for scout craft of other races, which tend to be around the same size as the Alpha Centauri scout craft. The scout craft is around 29 meters in diameter. Their carrier craft is about 3900 meters in diameter. Their mothership is like an oblate spheroid, with a slightly pointier side on the front. It can carry 120 carrier crafts, and its aprox. 2600 miles in length. Except for the mothership, which is dark blue in color, all other craft are silver-colored.

They seem to have artificial gravity, and the Alpha Centurian carrier craft even has lounges all over the place. Yeah I know, weird. The humanoids have a small "command deck" almost always located somewhere in the center of the disk. Each Alpha Centauri carrier is equipped with an A.I. just in case something goes wrong with manual control. So these things don't crash like the scout craft. All of the crashed disks so far have been scout/reconnaissance crafts. And in 90% of the cases, the craft have been brought down by us, humans.

All of the Alpha Centauri ships have aquariums, even the scout ships, although small. The Motherships have aquariums that extend with hundreds of meters in length. Some of the lifeforms there are similar to the Earthly ichthyosaurs with a lot of variations, physiologically and in pigmentation. They have hydroponic systems aboard too. They grow most of their food there. Some of their food have actually been modified to grow on our planet as well. They said the avocado and the conkerberry are two examples of it. Looks like if we visit their planets we may find something similar to these fruits.

Oh, and I was referring to humanoids from Alpha Centauri A. Not B. Just to clarify. Haven't seen craft from Alpha Cebtauri B yet.

I left out the military / battle craft on purpose. If you want, I can add that as well.

On many of the craft, the inside looks a lot more wider then it actually is when you are outside the craft. I don't know why or how is that possible. I haven't been told about it.

Unlike our own craft, the inside in many of the craft the humanoid ETs have, it looks a lot more ..... well, 'clean' would be one word of describing it. Its a lot less messy and less tangled with wires and instruments sticking out from everywhere.

More in the next post.

[Rocky_Shorz]

they'll be happy to know I've planted over 5000 Avocado seeds since the beginning of this year...

Onyx this is incredible...

I can't tell you how much everything rang true...

and so much coincides with what we have seen, but why would Bigfoot be on Mars, no Flora to take care of...

[OnyxKnight]

they'll be happy to know I've planted over 5000 Avocado seeds since the beginning of this year...

I will make sure I tell them that next time I see them :D

You know, throw around a few nice words about you :P

[Gajanana]

Phew!!!! :hippie: need a break.... halfway only so far.

[K626]

Thanks for that, a good and cogent read.

What was the prognosis for earth from the various races good or bad?

cheers

K

[Rocky_Shorz]

they'll be happy to know I've planted over 5000 Avocado seeds since the beginning of this year...

I will make sure I tell them that next time I see them :D

You know, throw around a few nice words about you :P

I added onto the first post, I have questions of amazement about everything, it also explains the image transfers instead of psychic...

I can't thank you enough for what you just shared...

[mojo]

Hi,
It's wondeful your willing to share your story and invite questions and answers. Were you able to document your experience in film or photo? I love to hear contactee stories because they may help me understand my own better. My desire is to authenticate contact through video evidence and I wonder if there will be a point where they say, 'You will not be able to video tape this.' I would hope not, but I can maybe understand why. In the past they have turned lights off or dimmed them enough that I couldn't video tape so maybe I can unnderstand why contactee's have more stories then evidence. In fact my motive changes when I'm evidence gathering and many times when I choose to put down the camcorder and go for the experience it pays off, because of the attitude adjustment.

[OnyxKnight]

Continuation ...

In November that same year, I noticed some other humanoids working aboard the craft with Jasha. They had dark green skin with light blue stripes, and had really long arms. They also had light blue dots on their head, back, limbs, and in some cases, the chest area too. They have four fingers with one opposable thumb. Yellow, hazel and blue eyes, no hair. Its hard to tell apart males from females because their genitalia is retracted inside, and their voices and physical characteristics are practically the same. Their ears are made out of a single hole on each side of the head. They come from the system of Sigma Capricorni, where they share two of their four inhabited planets with another brighter green-skinned species that lost their own homeworld (in the Y Canum Venaticorum system). I met a representative of them as well. I heard the term Dushaba being used from Jasha each time when I referred to them in conversation.

They are a very nice-mannered and very spiritual race of humanoids, the latter of which (the colonists) in appearance would look to us like they are overweight (which they are not). The part of their bodies where one would assume fat is stored is actually a lot of layers of skin who act as a shield from certain types of radiation and dangerous level of UV rays. Also, in order to make use of any vitamins they consume, they must bathe in sunlight so they can photosynthesize, which will break apart even the hardest chemical compounds, and release vitamins inside their bodies. They have dark-green markings on their skins, they are hairless, and they have brown and black eyes. It seems that they deal a lot with agriculture.

The only reason I met them there was for exobiological studies conducted on my initiative, and cultural studies on the intent of both. They are not the type of species that travels around other planets and stars, unless they have a need for it. They are like "stay-at-home-housewives" when it comes to interstellar relations. I learned from them how two species can co-exist and share a system together. Something we might need for the future.

The Dushaba's social system would be termed as ..... "sub-suburban-eco-green-autocentrism" (my term, since we have no term for their type of society and politics). Well, what would constitute automobiles for us, and living vehicles for them. Its closely tied with the economy they have, and thus the politics. They are part of the 'Allied Worlds', but are not 'active members' of it. At least, not the second 'adopted race' of beings in the system.

These meetings lasted three nights in a row, and the second and the last night another species attended the meetings, which had feline-like features. They have black, white, red and golden fur, which is slightly different then normal fur here, it looks/feels like feathers to the touch. They have green, orange and blue eyes, "whiskers" that come out of their ears, and some have tails too. Although I used the word 'feline', they are more accurately described as feline/ape hybrid humanoids, since they exhibit some ape-like features as well. They currently reside in the system of 98 Aquarii, though draw origins from Sirius A. We spoke about the aspects of humanity worth retaining, and what exactly are human values, and how would I define them as a human being.

Their social structure is a type of unitary state. Elections are made by popular vote. Elections result with 15 members of a government body they call "Endorsers". They elect one non-member of the "Endorser" group as a representative of the 'Allied Worlds'.

There were several other contact events till May 2002, on which I will expand in a later date. In May 2002, I had another meeting with the Valou, this time accompanied by another aquatic species with whom they have long-term relations and a strong alliance. I call them Velvetuli (Velvetooles/Velvetules? Don't know the exact spelling on English). Their skin is reddish, in a velvet hue (hence the name). These look like manta-rays crossed with jellyfish, though less luminous and less see-through. Also smaller in size, and they have yellow, green and brown eyes. They come from the 60 Sagittarii system, and are here to aid the Valou in their missions and operations. They are one of the first species that have inhabited one of the oceanic worlds created by the Valou, as primitive beings. They had an unusually fast evolution in their history and are now part of the 'Allied Worlds' and act as an "assistant race" to the Valou. I learned some crazy aspects of evolution from them that exist in the "rapid evolution theory model" here in our scientific world.

The Velvetulans don't have a sense of politics. They only recognize diplomacy. They are still getting used to these (for them) new "alien" concepts since they just recently joined the group of 'Allied Worlds'. Their society is dominated by genetic markers. Those who exhibit the reddish-velvet-like skin color in more than 90% of their body, are considered prime specimens of health, genetic wealth, and potential. The current representative (with 93% of velvet skin color) has a seat reserved in the 'Allied Worlds' group. They are currently working on breaking some of their cultural biases.

On the second session with them, we traveled to another location in space, far from the Solar system, and met at the 79 Pegasi star system, with another species, who are avian in nature. I noticed the term 'Danago' a few times associated with them so I started calling them that way. The Danago are very large, blue-winged wonders of nature that come from the system of 107 Piscium. They have "elephant like-snouts", a large mouth, and tusks emanating near their head and jaw. They have a pair of arms and a biological analogue for "chair", because they can stand very well, even though they don't have legs like humanoid species do (and they are probably the largest intelligent creatures I have contacted so far). They are currently busy in the system of 11 Pegasi, building a new colony. Their specialty, so to speak, is creating artificial planets with supporting ecosystems around gas giants. They have really good terraforming technology that's biological in nature.

The Danago like things in great size. They have yellow, spherical, Moon-size trade ships. Some of their cruisers are almost the size of Venus. The motherships are half as large as Jupiter. They also have what they call 'Orbital Habitats/Centers', which are almost the size of Jupiter. These are artificial planets, or can even rival artificial planets from other races too. They just build planets from scratch or use planet materials to create an artificial planet-ship.

These guys have an adhocracy-like system. The most prominent minds get elected for the 'Allied Worlds' representation seat.

July 2002, while discussing biology with the Danago, and working on my 'microsphere systems' (I'll explain some other time what they are), unannounced show up a species that are really frightening in appearance. Insectoid-like in nature, they come from the unusual system of PSR B1620-26. I named them 'Methuselahns', after the famous planet in that system. They are considered as one of the oldest extant civilizations, second after the Omi Scorpians, by other races. They are four-legged, and have evolved from six-legged, to four-legged so they can use their front pair for manipulation. They come in various skin colors, ranging from yellow to green to red and brown. They have several forms, caretakers/healers, workers/builders, three different warrior types, "scientist type", a carrier type and a leader/melder type (they telepathically influence the brood's actions).

These guys are very present in the Kuiper Belt nowadays, and a lot of astronomers have noticed them. Mind, what some have seen are not ships/craft. Its the actual living beings. The semi-alive carrier vessels are living organisms who redefine what the word "gigantic" means. They are really pissed off at the current rulership on Earth, and the whole 'Illuminati' and 'Reptoid' thing going on behind the scenes and under the Earth. They are also interested in the biological aspects of humans, but the 'Allied Worlds' have ruled out any face to face interaction, if opportunity arises. They might research humans who are caught outside the solar system doing illegal activities, like what is going on with Altair at the moment. If they catch them, they even have the permission to dissect them as frogs. Even though their nature is a bit scary, they are not hostile, from what I have gathered. They are capable of decent communication and understanding, and for an insectoid species, understand a lot of our concepts. Probably because of a long-term research from an observationist standpoint.

The 'Methusehlan' type of society. Well, Its difficult to explain political views through an insectoid-like ET species' perspective. But anyway, in my own opinion, its an eusocial system. Controlled by a 'Queen' in each colony. When involved in politics, they also seem to have some militarism present in their ideology. Eugenics is very present in their society too. 'Queens' are always picked as representatives in the 'Allied Worlds' groupation. Only 'Queens' from the homeworld are picked.

In August 2002, along with Koren and several other Makadi crew, I met sluggish-like life forms, who are residents on a planet in the system of Yed Prime (Epsilon Ophiuchi). They are yellow slug-like creatures, who can sense reality through other non-sentient drones with whom they attach, and who become subjected to their will, when they are exposed to a chemical compound the Opi Epsilonians excrete from their body, mainly the back. They are creatures that depend on others to build their homes, their ships, and to experience reality through all the senses. They have pores on their bodies, mainly their backs, which excrete a chemical compound that made a native insectoid species from their home planet, addicted to it like a drug, and thus dependent on their will. They were the first species to succumb to their will, and built their starcrafts. They also smell really bad. If / when communicating, keep your distance.

They have brown, rod-like spacecrafts that can reach up to the speed of light. They are 500 km long, and they carry no other vessels, other than probe-like machines.

The Yeds have a dual monarchy type of system. Not to be confused with dual monarchy in human terms, as in a monarch ruling over two separate territories, but with a symbiotic relationship between a male and a female of the species, over the entire planet. Males organize themselves in groupations loosely translated as 'brothers/brotherhood', and the females in 'sister groups, sisterhood'. Their sense of family is quite broad and quite literal in that meaning. Because the symbiotic relationship between an (what they call, and choose) 'Elder Brother/Sister' can produce an entire new population of the species, if they were to colonize another planet, or repopulate their own. Depends on their cycles really. Since the male/female symbiotic bonding is considered a representation of a single, "androgynous" entity, of both sexes, the 'Elder Brother/Sister' is elected as a representative of the species in the 'Allied Worlds' group.

As of the start of 2003 I didn't have any contact at all, until January 2007 - when I met a race from the star system of Matar (Eta Pegasi), together on a craft by the Danago. This was actually one of the races that comes from their homeworld, where there are total of 17 native sentient civilizations, but only 5 have achieved interplanetary travel, and only two of those have just recently achieved interstellar traveling capabilities. Their structure, ways of reproduction, and to some extent, the appearance, remind of the Earthly fungi life. It wouldn't be really far fetched since a lot of the life forms on their planet do look, and behave, in most ways, like fungi too. The rest of the life there is plant-like and aquatic. The 'Ba-Kouké' species in particular, who I contacted the first time back then, exhibit plant-like characteristics as well, so they are categorized by humans as a fungi/planimal class of extraterrestrial life.

They all come from closely related species, but with time have changed their physiology drastically. One major factor is the change in environment, and another the competition for life, and the "vicious circle" between predators and prey. The planet used to be an icy rock, just to later melt and become similar to Earth, in terms of land and water. After some time, the land started to turn into "savanna-like" fields, where some basic flora-like life forms found their place, and some basic life in the seas. Later the climate became more hotter, the flora become more and more bigger (the Malkessior/Jarkara forests are one hell of a challenge to take on, since its "trees" on average can reach kilometers in height), the large areas of water retracting, and large quantities of them going in the air as water vapor etc., all this made certain species change and adapt to the new conditions of the planet.

It used to be a few planimal species displaying some hints of intelligence. Before long, it seems, many joined the group. Those who were somewhat intelligent, became nearly semi-sapient. Later when the semi-sapients developed full sentience, others started displaying hints of intelligence. In just about 15.000 years time, of achieving full sentience, a couple of the sapient species developed transport between continents. According to the geological record, these frequent buffs in intelligence and complexity are like sharp spikes on the historical scale, and have happened after each major natural disaster. Another peculiar thing is, after each natural disaster, with each 10 species going extinct, 5 times more arise in their place, establishing new niches. The natives of Malkessior/Jarkara have different concepts of time, slow metabolism, and really large lifespans.

Only four planets like this are known to exist/have existed so far, dealing with a "boom of life and intelligence at the same time": Malkessior/Jarkara, another world named Kalonus in 14 Fornacis (HD 12596), Drennea, in 267 Carinae (HD 98292), and remnants of another such planet named Apex, in the Lyra constellation (in the present-day Ring Nebula). Only Malkessior/Jarkara shows some indication that probably the whole phenomena of 'Ecosystems on steroids' is artificially done. Malkessior/Jarkara has a large, artificial construct orbiting it. After centuries of close contact with other extraterrestrial civilizations, none has a clue what this object is made of, or for what purpose is orbiting the planet. Theories claim that the object has something to do with the boom of life on Malkessior. Many today consider this object as a remnant piece of technology of the 'Progenitor" race, and another witness to their existence. The spherical object is referred to them as the "Genesis Sphere". The planet where they come from fits the category of a 'SuperEarth', almost seven times the size of it. The species there range in aquatic, vegetative/plant-like, fungi, and any possible combination of the three.

Since there are 17 civilizations in their homeworld, and only five of them capable of interplanetary travel, those five are chosen to be the body of the government in their system. They are very altruistic in nature, and emphasize symbiosis with nature (to whatever degree) in their interactions with other, less developed races. In each meeting of the 'Allied Worlds', one of the five most developed races is attending the seat. Also because of being 17 intelligent species there, the society/social structure is varied, from almost pure anarchy, to commonwealth-like system, to a technocracy state;

Another race that came three months after that was the Capellans, who are 'Reptoid'. They are former genetic experiment of the Alpha Draconians, but they have dissociated themselves successfully from the Draconians and the Orion Group, and they work closely with the Sirius A races and the Valou. They are bluish, with varying light colors on their bodies, and are divided in two different species, and they are quite tall. The Capellans have a collectivism type of society. 'Allied Worlds' members choose a representative of their planet. Since then, contacts with pretty much the same group (the humanoid races and Capellans) and discussing the same topics has resumed and continued till the end of 2008.

In December 2008, after another meeting with the Makadi, I saw a representative from a synthetic race as I was going back home, in the form of yellow glowing circle. Three months after that Makadi contact, I started seeing yellow lights hovering above the mountain almost every night. By the end of the week I went there to see what's going on. What seemed as disks from distance, were actually circles. At first, I got really confused because I was being visited by what seemed to be, intelligent .... circles. I started calling them "Halos". It was interesting because there are 8 other people who saw one of these with me, and who can confirm this. I later found out that each "Halo" is a piece of a larger structure, which also has a "body" and a "head". The "body" and the "head" can be used as weapons sometimes, but they are usually active in communication, primarily the "head". Each piece has its own individual mind, but they also function as a collective as well. When these pieces are assembled together, they act as one unit, and these bodies can in turn, as well, act independently, and at the same time, act as a collective with other units.

I know this might confuse some people, and I understand why, I got confused the first time I heard about it. It took some time to understand the concept. They are a very peculiar species in the sense that, they have features such as what I call 'individual collective minds'. It sounds like some antagonym, but its actually is a simple logical conclusion on my side. Each unit is comprised of several different parts, and each of those parts has a mind of its own, even though they function primarily as a collective mind of the entire unit. And then you have all the units, who can act as a collective mind themselves. Its strange, I know. The only time each unit expresses 'individual collectiveness' is when it is detached from its "herd". A single part of the unit expresses individuality when it is also detached from the whole unit. There can be other situations with other circumstances that may lead to a unit or a part of the unit to act independently on its own, practicing individual behavior. They are called An-Si-Pahr (which is a rough pronunciation of the scripts other races have found of their creators. It means something like - fourth-in-line/fourth-in-row, and I think it has to do with the number of the series they represent, in this case, the fourth). Nobody knows exactly who are their creators, who seem to have gone extinct. Some speculate that they killed their creators/masters, but there is no evidence for that.

The "halo" is used as a means to collect materials like matter and gas, as well as collecting energy, but its most widely used to stabilize unstable or irregular and eccentric orbits orbits of stars and planets. The body looks like a snake, the head is a spherical object and the "halo" part has a torus shape. All three parts are not physically attached to one another (even in unit mode). As a species they specialize in creating and maintaining stable orbits of planets around A-class giant stars, and red/orange supergiants, as well as the stars themselves. The reasons behind that are not very clear, but it seems that their creators have programmed them to do so. Possibly their creators having preferred to live on planets around giant stars, especially A-class giants. They are busy rearranging the orbit around Alpha Cygni for the aquatic species that live there, because there seems to have been some problem with the planetary orbits, so they were called for help. Recently, they have contacted another sentient synthetic form of life called the Hummers (404-H), and have created an alliance. As an attempt for communication, the two species have created 3 representatives who are a combination of the two, and they look like toroidal polyhedron, Stewart toroid and Szilassi polyhedron. They have done the same with the humans, where they have created five such cases (so far), and they have attempted something similar with the Crystomorphs, although the crystomorphs have ignored the hybrid creation completely (for now).

In the start of 2009, I have had contact with a benevolent collective transversal intelligence I have nicknamed 'Logos'. It exists inside a cosmic body which is believed by our astronomers to be a companion to the star known as Omega² Aquarii (105 Aquarii). It always uses third parties to contact others. It cannot function in this universe otherwise. The way its interacting in this universe is through a hive of semi sentient avian creatures who have been modified to withstand the harsh conditions of space and its vacuum. They seem to act as puppets to its will, and speak as a collective. I have to say it has some interesting philosophical concepts, some who have changed my way of thinking completely. 'Logos' is very active around the Solar system lately, and is part of what some people have termed the KBA (Kuiper Belt Aliens). Some of those objects that have been spotted moving there, are actually its flying avatars.

Before the year ended, I had met another 'Reptoid' species that lives on Sirius A and Sirius B. Its also benevolent, and works with the Capellans on getting the Bellatrician 'Reptoids' to join allegiance with the humanoids of Sirius A and Tau Ceti, and dissociate from the Alpha Draconians. They are a golden-skinned 'Reptoid' species that comes originally from Sirius A, but has also colonized parts of Sirius B and Sirius C. They have green, brown, gray and beige eyes. They don't "hiss" when they talk like other 'Reptoids', but they "hum" a lot. They don't have tails too, but do have bone crests on their forehead. They are also tall, like the Capellans. The 'Reptoids' from Sirius A & B have a form of libertarianism. They have a body of Sirian humans monitoring the decision-making. All the rest of the aspects of the libertarian philosophy seem to match the type of government and politics they lead.

July the 5th, 2010, I had met another humanoid species which I labeled it, Demetras. They come from the system of 110 Virginis. They are a highly advanced humanoid species who creates Earth-like planets around K-type stars. These giant humanoids have taken the role of what the ancient 'Firstborn' (Paa Tal?) as they say, were doing, and they create habitable worlds around K-class stars. That's what they do, they are terraformers, and they specialize in Earth-like planets. They are humanoid, but not human-like. They have brown-ish skin, with some bony ridges here and there on their bodies, very long legs and arms, with strong hands and fingers. They have small holes where the ears should be, and nostrils but no visible nose like the one we have, and their mouths are more slit-like then ours. Golden, green or brown eyes, and no hair. I would best describe their type of thinking as: "All for one, one for all". They are one of the few races that constantly hold the 'Allied Worlds' council seat, which comprises of 508 races, from a total of about 3000 species involved with this group.

There also another species, Numanni, that I briefly interacted with, while with the Valou in some recent contacts we had, they are small pink-skinned humanoids that are about a foot tall, who's homestar is starting to die. One of the possible scenarios that have been laid out to me is that we share Earth with these beings (as an experiment to see if we can co-exist with another species, alien species). This is planned after we rise above our own differences of nationality, skin color, religion, gender and sexuality etc. IF, we do. Its still debatable.

September 2010, I received a notification to travel to the same deserted area of the city, that was part of my first contact and meet Ania there. When we met, I was asked to go inside the old research facility. Inside, I was introduced to three, giant, pale, white-skinned humanoids with red eyes. Their ancestors were originally humanoids from Vega who colonized several stars in the Orion Constellation. They had the Chi¹ Orionis system colonized, and it was the main colony there. They currently reside in the star system of Nembus, on the planet Aeleema, in the Andromeda constellation. They are tall, pale-white, with white hair and orange, yellow, blue or red eyes. Their ears are also slightly pointed, and they also practice wearing short haircuts. A lot of the information that I got out of them was regarding spirituality and metaphysical aspects of existence. I was also warned about an attempt for some Aldebarans to try and pull off another "Thule" scenario.

The humanoids from Nembus have cylindrical motherships of around 1700 miles in length, but with an empty space between the base centers. So its somewhat tube-like. The circular empty area around the bases, is used for the propulsion system. Their motherships are among the few of the humanoid races that can travel several times faster than light. They have small ellipsoid trade ships (300 meters length) and disk-shaped scout craft (45 meters diameter). They also don't have carriers. They collectively refer to themselves as Mekoran, and their society revolves around council based decision-making. The same year, I was informed that alongside the people from Nembus, cultures from Sirius and Procyon have made contact with China and Japan's governments (presently, as of 2011, the ongoing contact is with Japan only, and the Brazilian government has been contacted as well).

Month later, near the end of October, I had another encounter with the Valou, who had brought representatives from few other star systems. I've termed them Mer-Mal, and this is an interesting species since it starts off amphibian, but as it grows and goes through a few stages of life, it ends up as a mammal-like creature in its mature period of existence. Mer-Mal have something akin to liberal democracy system, and they are one of the newest members of the 'Allied Worlds'. They are also a provolution form done by the Valou, and their planet is located in one of the stars in the Kappa Geminorum system.

Another representative was from the Eta Andromedae system. These are pale white, very big, avian humanoids, with wings similar in appearance to combination of "stickied" flippers of dolphins, which can extend to as much as twice their original size. Hairless, and with white, silver, purple and hazel eyes. Longer necks, ears are inside the head, only small holes exist visibly. They don't have a nose or mouth, but have 'nostrils' near their chest area. They also have some boney protrusions on the back of their heads too. This race has taken a role in creating oxygen-based ecosystems on planets wherever they travel. Been told they worked on accumulating oxygen on this planet too, hundreds of millions of years ago. They have a "meritocracy" type of system, as the closest description I can think of.

The last representative was a giant, black, "centauroid" being. I found out they have a colony on the star system of Sophian (Eta Herculis), but who originally come from another galaxy, we know as M82. They have used a "gate" located near the center of the their galaxy, which we theorize presently is a microquasar, to enter an area of space in the constellation of Hercules. Sophians are huge, black centaur-like beings who have moved here because their star system got destroyed there. They have wing-like appendages on their backs, which are used to photosynthesize all the nutrients they receive inside their bodies. During this process, the wing-like appendages shine in rainbow colors. They have four eyes, two looking at the sides, and two looking up front, they have a lot of bone crests on their heads, as well as their back and their tails too. Most of them have leather-black skin, but to present day, I have seen some who are indigo colored, and some who are purple and red. They have a type of confederation. They have a member of their race as a representative in the 'Allied Worlds' group, on mutual consent of all the members (because they have origins from another galaxy). These guys, are one of the most technologically advanced civilizations I have heard of to date. They actually have achieved inter-galactic trip with using their own technology. Only the 'Progenitors' had such advanced technology.

More some next time (my hands hurt of so much typing :D).

[OnyxKnight]

they'll be happy to know I've planted over 5000 Avocado seeds since the beginning of this year...

Onyx this is incredible...

I can't tell you how much everything rang true...

and so much coincides with what we have seen, but why would Bigfoot be on Mars, no Flora to take care of...

:D

Thank you. Even if it doesn't ring true, its totally fine. I'm here to share, and compare experiences with others. Like all, trying to get as close to the truth as possible.

That Mars pic is of an ET in a dark-green space suit, with alleged origins from a star system somewhere in Ursa Minor. Its an organic suit, and it looks like its its' skin.

"Bigfoot" is originally a race of beings who appeared on the (now destroyed) planet Apex in the Lyra constellation. They are present in Sirius, Tau Ceti, and a few other systems as colonies. There are various sub-variants of the original Apexian species who is 9 feet tall.

Not sure if all the "Bigfoot" accounts could be explained with this, but a large number of them, yes.

If I misunderstood your question, do correct me :).


Phew!!!! :hippie: need a break.... halfway only so far.

Hahahaha :D

Take your time friend, no need for a hurry.


Thanks for that, a good and cogent read.

What was the prognosis for earth from the various races good or bad?

cheers

K

I will answer your question in more detail when I make a post on the general views about the future of Earth, according to the different ET views on it.

And thanks to you too :).


I added onto the first post, I have questions of amazement about everything, it also explains the image transfers instead of psychic...

I can't thank you enough for what you just shared...

LOL, thanks Rocky :)

I'm glad we resonate. Feel free to post any questions you have in your head (while they are still fresh :D), and I'll seat to that I answer them as best I can.


Hi,
It's wondeful your willing to share your story and invite questions and answers. Were you able to document your experience in film or photo? I love to hear contactee stories because they may help me understand my own better. My desire is to authenticate contact through video evidence and I wonder if there will be a point where they say, 'You will not be able to video tape this.' I would hope not, but I can maybe understand why. In the past they have turned lights off or dimmed them enough that I couldn't video tape so maybe I can unnderstand why contactee's have more stories then evidence. In fact my motive changes when I'm evidence gathering and many times when I choose to put down the camcorder and go for the experience it pays off, because of the attitude adjustment.

I have some photo, video, and material evidence, but I am not allowed to reveal it right now, at this time. Though, in case I disappear/get "removed", the evidence will surface from various different places and find its place on the net. I have made sure of that.

There is so much information, its impossible to remember/learn everything, unless one takes notes and keeps some kinds of records of things.

I understand what you mean though, I have felt the same. The experience is what counts the most IMO. Evidence will just earn a few more people who would believe you. But a lot of the rest will remain skeptical and find a way to "explain" or "debunk" the evidence in a "rational" way.

Although some of the evidence of what you will read in this thread, is possible/will be, discovered in the relatively near future.

I'm just playing a minuscule part here, as a supporter of a change. A positive one.

[sunflower]

Hi Onyx, I'm 1/3 thru but wanted to thank you before I continue. Very interesting. I appreciate the work you put into getting this ready for posting. Hope you stay on Avalon!

[watchZEITGEISTnow]

Amazing - and I 'feel' you're telling the truth (refreshing).

I have so many questions - but i don't know how to put them into words :P (this is where telepathy and symbols would be good).

1:The obvious (self-Earth-based-ish) question is - what do these other species see of us and our 'human condition' in the near future?

2:Also do they speak of other "incidents" in UFO lore we are familiar with - eg the Phoenix lights or Israel dome UFO and explain what they were?

3:Contacts such as Collier or Meier - what do they say about them and others like them?

4:Why did they "choose" you?

5:How can I meet some of these groovers?

Rock on I love your story - please go on!

:victory:

[Belle]

Thank you for sharing, Onyx. I find your courage refreshing...I can sense it comes from a place of truth in you, and we all benefit greatly from it. I find myself "expanding" to take all of this in, creating room to grow.

[Pilgrim]

May I ask you, your physical contacts witj ET s have been based on free will scenarios or have you encountered some kind of "manipulations"?

Having read your experience with such a variety of life forms and inteligent beings which exist in Universe, inspires me to think about their concepts of God or their spiritual phylosophies, can you elaborate on that either?

Otherwise, I can just say, excellent, thanx for your effort and your sharing with us, I have many points to ponder, now heading to bed...

[fifi]

Hi OnyxKnight,

Your story is fascinating. Thank you so much for sharing with us. It's great to know that there are real contactees here in Avalon Forum. I'm really looking forward to your next posts.

[mojo]

I would love if you could determine the ET/type group through the footage in my archive. There are almost 70 videos to choose from and hopefully something in the video would look familiar. It might also help to authenticate my efforts. There's a link in my profile if you decide. Thanks

[Hughe]

Have you met any alien species that mention their interaction or influence with Mongolians?
I'd love to hear that if you have some. Thanks.

[meeradas]

wow...
against the tendency of my attention span getting ever shorter these days, and despite my plans for the day, i couldn't unglue myself from the panel and had to read all of it.
Thank YOU!:cool:

[Dionysus]

Hello Onyx: Thanks, this has been fascinating. Some of it seems oddly familiar, as if it was a confirmation of a barely felt 'hunch.' I can't describe it any other way, although I realize that is extremely vague. Which is how it feels. More to do with childhood ideas rather than conscious notions I have at this age.

OK, that sounds strange even to me now that I read it, but I suspect I have 'learned' through 'education' to accept a different view of reality.

I did have some questions as a carryover from the Omniverse thread, but I will hold off for now until you finish your story.

[bennycog]

onyx,
i am going to get myself ready for a mamoth thread here mate :)
And i know your going to be able to express yourself well here..

How do you overcome the time thing, when you have travelled out to space? have you been the speed of light? I mean growing up with science the way it is. If you leave earth for a period of time at the speed of light or close to and you travel a fair distance wouldn't you come back in the future? or the past? not at the same time you left or certainly not the amount of time by your watch that you were gone..

[Sir Eltor]

Great readings thanx OnyxKnight !!!

I'm only going to ask a few Q's to be fair cuz I have a feeling this thread will turn out to be huge like :preggers: lol

1) Do you know of the " Voynich manuscript " and if it shares any relationship with the Altarfians ?
(was a thread on such, but sorry don't know how to post the link( if someone with the know-how ,would be greatly appreciated;)))

2) Have any of the E.T 's you've been in contact with , had anything to do with the crop circles on Earth ?

3) I'm guessing E.T. 's visualize a different spectrum of colors than humans ?

-many , many thanx

Elton

[meeradas]

SE: here it is


1) Do you know of the " Voynich manuscript (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?14201) " and if it shares any relationship with the Altarfians ?

[Roseheart]

OnyxKnight thank you!

There is so much clarity in your writing. I makes the unimaginable come alive...

Do you ever see anyone else from the human race in your meetings?

If not, is this a lonely experience in that sense?

Have they explained the purpose of these meetings and revelations? I had the distinct feeling while reading your posts that the sharing of these experiences at this time on this particular forum is a very important and powerful event...

What is your take on Angels? Do they figure at all and how would you classify them?

Your generous sharing is much appreciated. Thanks.

[Oouthere]

This is so fascinating and beautifully written! I was excited about meeting an ant like creature a few nights ago, but my experiences pale in comparison.

Thank you for this wonderful post :hungry:

Rich

[pickle]

Many thanks for sharing this OnyxKnight, and I'm looking forward to more.

A sort of a question for you.........especially interested to hear thoughts about possible 'options' for the future (perhaps there's many potential scenarios to be dealt with?), and if at all, any advice/help that your friends can offer to make our world a better place.

Thanks also to other posters for keeping this thread as intended - what a pleasure to read, er, even though I should be working!

Peace to you all,

Pickle

[OnyxKnight]

Great readings thanx OnyxKnight !!!

I'm only going to ask a few Q's to be fair cuz I have a feeling this thread will turn out to be huge like lol

Haha :D, Thanks. You can ask as many questions as you like, I'm here to give an answer to (given I know it, or have one of course).



1) Do you know of the " Voynich manuscript " and if it shares any relationship with the Altarfians ?

I have only heard of these manuscripts once, when discussing the Rosetta Stone with an individual. It was only used as an example, we didn't discuss it any further.

The Altarfians were present here on Earth till ~71.000 BC, in central Africa. They were later also involved with the Lemurian supercolony till around 33.000 BC. They came back here at the end of the 19th Century, doing the research and work that they do.

I see these manuscripts are carbon-dated to be from the 15/16 century. I don't believe in carbon dating, because its faulty. These could be very much older. In any case, the Altarfians haven't been present here when these manuscripts have been made, so there are no indications they could be the source.

BUT...

The symbols look like the pre-Arcturian language. While the colony from Vega was still fresh and new in the Arcturus system. The problem is, the structure of words is a bit strange. The Arcturians have very long words (usually each word is a sentence on its own), and this is structured in a way reminiscent of human languages. This is where somebody could shout "Fake! / Hoax!", but if its a fake, somebody sure knew at least something about the Arcturian language. If anything, the form of the symbols.

Also, there are very interesting drawings, some of which are extinct Earthly plants, some of which are plant-analogues of other planets (nearby at that).

I could mention very peculiar astronomical drawings, some of our Solar system's position from a point of view from another planet in a particular star system (will have to do a research to find which one), and clearly, our Milky Way galaxy as seen from above, with the blue dot being our solar system's position. The irregular circle of yellow stars may indicate how the sun travels through the galaxy:

http://imageupload.org/dm-1512997818486.png



2) Have any of the E.T 's you've been in contact with , had anything to do with the crop circles on Earth ?

Yes, a few of them. They didn't let me know which ones though. They explained that the crop circles are not meant for me, so I don't need to know. Those who the crop circles are meant for, will recognize them, and the message behind them.

They also said a lot of the crop circles are done by humans. But only small part are done by regular, ordinary people. Most of the human handy work has been done by black op groups.



3) I'm guessing E.T. 's visualize a different spectrum of colors than humans ?

-many , many thanx

Elton

You are welcome Elton

Yes, they do. Sometimes its a different perception of reality altogether.

Most of the humanoids share our own spectrum of colors, maybe a bit more sharp and enhanced, but its almost identical.

But for example, the beings from Eta Pegasi have "heat vision". They do not recognize black and white, but a variety of other colors.

The Altarfians have a similar heat vision, and can see in the infra red.

The Valou can "picture" sound.

The Sophians have a "break-down spectrum" of each color. In other words, they can recognize other colors invisible to us because of our limited perception, with breaking down the colors known to us. Its a bit hard to explain. For example, blue isn't blue to them, but can be divided into more colors (and I'm not talking about shades of blue here, just to be clear) that we can't observe.

This is because they have entered the 5th level of 'Awareness'. They can interact with cosmic continuums from 1 up to 5 now. I'll explain about space continuums a bit more in a larger chunky post very soon



OnyxKnight thank you!

There is so much clarity in your writing. I makes the unimaginable come alive...

Thank you very much. I didn't expect that this would have such an effect on people here. I have shared the some of this information on some other forums, but I quickly quit because people were becoming very rude and insulting with me.



Do you ever see anyone else from the human race in your meetings?

No. So far nothing. I have asked them numerous times if there are other people that they contact in my country so I can exchange information, views, experience etc. but they are adamant that I'm the only one.

I personally don't think this is the case, and I think they are indeed contacting others, but for whatever reason, they try to keep each contact case isolated.

I think this because at the beginning they mentioned that I was a random pick from about 30 individuals who were up for potential contact. I think they are contacting these other 30+ individuals, who I believe are in my country.



If not, is this a lonely experience in that sense?

Yes and no. In a sense yes, because I'm the only human there when the contact happens. No, in the sense I'm almost convinced there are others in my area getting contacted as frequent as I am, probably from the same ET cultures, only I have no luck in finding any so far. I dunno, its some kind of a hunch, an internal feeling I have that this is the case.



Have they explained the purpose of these meetings and revelations? I had the distinct feeling while reading your posts that the sharing of these experiences at this time on this particular forum is a very important and powerful event...

Many people still believe ETs are all either "good" or ETs are all "bad". Rarely do people consider both to be true with extraterrestrials out there.

One of the reasons I'm sharing so much detail about alien cultures is that if people get contacted by some in the future, that they know who they are dealing with. If its the "good" guys, or the "bad guys". Theories like those of Stephen Hawking and Steven Greer, only fuel both sides with "ammunition" that their view is correct and justified, even proven in some cases.

Some of the information I will be presenting you may have heard before, some will be probably mentioned here for the first time, and possibly you will hear about them for the first time. According to them, every single piece of information that I will post here is important in some way or form. Even though it may not seem that way always.

Maybe some would recognize this as something they have been told before, by ETs. Might trigger a memory of experiences. Past lives maybe? I'm also going to touch upon many problems in society today, and preferred solutions, theoretical models etc. Something I think this thread would be of most value, if anything.

I think this community here is in the best mood to do some changes and discuss things with an open mind, so it may be important that I stick around here (I did plan to leave).



What is your take on Angels? Do they figure at all and how would you classify them?

There are some people who claim contact with angels, archangels, ascended masters and the like. I haven't talked about this subject with many of the ETs, but those that I have, they don't like how the meaning the definition of it has twisted in the course of time.

The non-corporeal energy beings that we imagine angels to be are sometimes holograms, in other cases they could be real beings who manifest here in the form of energy, and thus glowing. They may take a human form so you can be more easily communicated. If its a real being, it won't present itself as an angel/archangel/ascended master. That's what they told me.

Those contacting St. Michael etc., they say its not real. But bear in mind this - the experience is real, the one people have. St. Michael is not real. Not the way we have pictured it. Many Mind Control operations involve hologram projections, and thought implantation, as analogous to telepathy, channeling. So next time one is channeling, bear in mind they may be channeling a black ops satellite in space.

The word 'Angel', or 'Angél' (more correctly, in pronunciation), is a modern form of the the word 'ankh-él'.

The ankh symbol - also known as key of life, the key of the Nile or crux ansata. I will stick to the oldest reference and definition, here the first one - Key of Life.

El - Deity, or God.

What do we get - God's Key of Life.

There was an interesting reference, not sure if it was Dr. Bill Deagle, David Wilcock or Michael Tsarion, who explained this way the names of the Archangels: St. Michael - Mi-Ka-Él, St. Gabriel - Ka-Bri-Él and so forth.

He also explained what each meant, but I have also forgotten that too.

I think it was El - translated as the Holy Fleet (Or fleet of God), and the rest of the words meant something else. So they are referring to spaceships. And it makes sense, picturing the angels as 'divine beings' with "wings", that come down from the sky.

Angel in common understanding means messenger from God. I think these spaceships were omens, sings, or a 'message' that the God(s) were coming.

Also, a lot of Egyptians hold the Ankh, the pharaohs in particular. If you look at the walls with the hieroglyphs, you will always see them holding the Ankh. Holding the Ankh means that they were descended from "Heaven", or you could say "space". The Angels were also later replace with the Enoch's 'Watchers'. Would also confirm that the best way to watch would be from above, in a craft.

Here is another example:

http://www.rebeltime.com/wp-content/photos/ankh.JPG

Of what ANKH, or the (God's) Key of Life is. And it doesn't make much sense until you enter (the) vowels in it - and you get An.Nu.nK.Hi. Sounds familiar? Its the Anunnaki. To my understanding, the Anunnaki encompass many civilizations (The cultures involved in Hyperborea, Atlantis and Lemuria), but are first and foremost used to describe the Nibiru civilizations. They were the first to mess with us genetically.

I will expand more on that later on. My point was, that this is their take on Angels, Archangels and Ascended Masters. Maybe a bit disappointing for some, but I'm sorry, this is what the think of it, and what my research has lead me so far too.



Hi Onyx, I'm 1/3 thru but wanted to thank you before I continue. Very interesting. I appreciate the work you put into getting this ready for posting. Hope you stay on Avalon!

Thank you. I did thought of leaving, but I have recently decided to stay. Thank you, and I'm glad that you enjoy this so far .



Amazing - and I 'feel' you're telling the truth (refreshing).

I have so many questions - but i don't know how to put them into words (this is where telepathy and symbols would be good).

Haha, I wish I could use it right now . The need for huge threads with lots of explanation goes out the window. Its okay as it is I guess.



1:The obvious (self-Earth-based-ish) question is - what do these other species see of us and our 'human condition' in the near future?


Well, a lot of them were once very biased and looked at us as a bizarre experiment. I can gladly say they have moved on since then. They see us as equal (most of them) and something refreshing in this part of the universe. Quite a unique piece of work. You will see why when I get into the history of Earth and the Solar system.



2:Also do they speak of other "incidents" in UFO lore we are familiar with - eg the Phoenix lights or Israel dome UFO and explain what they were?

Phoenix Lights - Black Ops testing new craft.

The Israel Dome UFO - Aldebaran orb-probe.

Will add more information in one of the posts I'm preparing, concerning exoplotics and covert projects.



3:Contacts such as Collier or Meier - what do they say about them and others like them?

They are a bit disappointed that people would still support Meier, and regard him as a prophet and some sort of Messiah, even after everything that happened. They don't like the premise (one and only contactee).

Alex Collier on the other hand, is supported by them. They actually told me to research Jordan Maxwell, David Icke, and Alex Collier. It turns out, a lot of the material I have is similar to what these people have put forward, especially Alex Collier.



4:Why did they "choose" you?

I'm not a "special person", or a "chosen one". I was quite a random pick. I don't have telepathic abilities like many other contactees have. I don't have the mental preparedness and strong stomach for some of these encounters too.

Some are quite the opposite and are not random picks. They are picked for a set of characteristics.

They say that its different for each race. Some will pick exclusively on genetic basis, some on spiritual basis, others on some mental characteristics.

Most of those I have contacted claim past life connections. While I do have memories of past lives that I don't remember everything, and of course not each of these races. But so far I trust what they say. I'm quite an average person. If we look at biological standpoint, I have one vertebrae more than "normal" humans (this is actually a "relatively" common thing, it happens to every thousand people or so), and I had a 'tail' as well, which was surgically removed at my early years as a baby child. This is also not uncommon with humans.

My blood type is RH-, and this might be something connected to this biological aspect of their choice, since most contactees that I have spoke to have RH- blood. So that might be one of the criteria, and also mixed nationality or racial mixture. Contactees/Abductees in most cases are either quite "pure" genetically, or heavily mixed racially and/or ethnically. I'm quite mixed for example.



5:How can I meet some of these groovers?

If it was possible, I wouldn't be sharing the information here myself, It would be them sharing this information in a thousand times better ways to all of you individually.

I have asked them to appear to some of my family members, so as my family would believe me but they have refused. They rarely take back decisions that they have made, and they have decided to go ahead with contact with me when the pick fell on me.

I am very sorry.



Rock on I love your story - please go on!

Thanks, I will continue sharing, as long as this thread doesn't get too abused :D.



May I ask you, your physical contacts witj ET s have been based on free will scenarios or have you encountered some kind of "manipulations"?

I think I have been lead to some of the places by intelligent control. Like the places I said I have gone to, but never been to before, and where the contact would happen. I don't think its so much a violation of free will, since I have agreed to these contacts, and its controlled till I get to the destination.



Having read your experience with such a variety of life forms and inteligent beings which exist in Universe, inspires me to think about their concepts of God or their spiritual phylosophies, can you elaborate on that either?

I will, in another chunky post akin to the two previous ones. See, I should have incorporated them too when I talked about their social structure. Your question will be answered, and with detail at that, so don't worry.



I would love if you could determine the ET/type group through the footage in my archive. There are almost 70 videos to choose from and hopefully something in the video would look familiar. It might also help to authenticate my efforts. There's a link in my profile if you decide. Thanks

Thank you. I will. After I'm done I will send a PM to you regarding this.



Have you met any alien species that mention their interaction or influence with Mongolians?
I'd love to hear that if you have some. Thanks.

Orion cultures from the Saiph and Bellatrix systems. I haven't met any, but I have been told that these have interacted with the Mongolians. I don't have much more information except that they have been personally interacting with Attila as well.



Hello Onyx: Thanks, this has been fascinating. Some of it seems oddly familiar, as if it was a confirmation of a barely felt 'hunch.' I can't describe it any other way, although I realize that is extremely vague. Which is how it feels. More to do with childhood ideas rather than conscious notions I have at this age.

Oh, well I'm glad it feels that way. More to come soon.



I did have some questions as a carryover from the Omniverse thread, but I will hold off for now until you finish your story.

Okay, no worries.



How do you overcome the time thing, when you have traveled out to space? have you been the speed of light? I mean growing up with science the way it is. If you leave earth for a period of time at the speed of light or close to and you travel a fair distance wouldn't you come back in the future? or the past? not at the same time you left or certainly not the amount of time by your watch that you were gone..

Oh, I have been around space a few times, true. But none were FTL trips. When I would get back it would really be the present for me, but the future for everyone else. Everyone I know would have passed away. The only solution would be time traveling back to the pas (or present in this case). But there is a lot of complexity involved with time travel I will have to do a huge post on it to explain it well enough. They used portals and wormholes when traveling with me.

[vibrations]

With lot of expectations waiting on your next part. Very enlightening information. Thank you very much (and don't abandon, it's too interesting for all of us)
Regards

[OnyxKnight]

The image I made is gone... why?

[InCiDeR]

The image I made is gone... why?

Thank you OnyxKnight for sharing your story, I really appreciate it. Regarding your question, can you please specify! / InCiDeR

[OnyxKnight]

The image I made is gone... why?

Thank you OnyxKnight for sharing your story, I really appreciate it. Regarding your question, can you please specify! / InCiDeR

The image I made comparing the Milky Way galaxy with the drawing in the Voynich manuscripts was temporarily gone. After I edited the post, it appeared again.

And you are very welcome Incider :)

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4:Why did they "choose" you?

I'm not a "special person", or a "chosen one". I was quite a random pick. I don't have telepathic abilities like many other contactees have. I don't have the mental preparedness and strong stomach for some of these encounters too.

Some are quite the opposite and are not random picks. They are picked for a set of characteristics.

They say that its different for each race. Some will pick exclusively on genetic basis, some on spiritual basis, others on some mental characteristics.

Most of those I have contacted claim past life connections. While I do have memories of past lives that I don't remember everything, and of course not each of these races. But so far I trust what they say. I'm quite an average person. If we look at biological standpoint, I have one vertebrae more than "normal" humans (this is actually a "relatively" common thing, it happens to every thousand people or so), and I had a 'tail' as well, which was surgically removed at my early years as a baby child. This is also not uncommon with humans.

My blood type is RH-, and this might be something connected to this biological aspect of their choice, since most contactees that I have spoke to have RH- blood. So that might be one of the criteria, and also mixed nationality or racial mixture. Contactees/Abductees in most cases are either quite "pure" genetically, or heavily mixed racially and/or ethnically. I'm quite mixed for example.

I still think that the actual physical contact is decided if there is some past life connection to the ET race contacting the person. In most cases. The reason a lot more other races contact me is that they trust the choices of their "partner races". I would guess so, because I haven't talked to each race about their choice for contact. Only some, with who this topic has been discussed.

I'll elaborate a bit more

Sometimes, those who choose people for contact strictly on certain biological features, will monitor a few families for centuries, until circumstances are usually made, for them to come in contact. As science has proved so far - women can usually "sniff" out a good potential partner based in how good his genes are. Of course feelings have to be involved here, but sometimes love based on feelings alone does not work out. And I have seen many cases of this. People have feelings for each other, get married, but they don't have sexual intercourse that much (or none at all) and age older without having any children.

After the right (for a lack of a better word) "ingredients" are "put together", and the offspring that shows most genetic potential is contacted (usually saliva, skin and blood samples are requested (I say requested, not unwillingly taken) as well, and in each contact the health status of the individual is checked).

Some have mental capacities to either channel certain information, receive thought forms and send thought forms (telepathy), receive and send emotional waves (empaths), or sense more layers of reality that most people can't, with their limited five senses. Some can even "sense" the future probabilities and possibilities and therefore are able to predict things (which are usually the most probable scenarios). Some who are chosen for this mental aspect of themselves for contact, are just simply able to mentally survive the contact without loosing their minds. It sounds off, but there have been cases, a lot of cases actually, where people have been freaked out so much, they have lost their sanity. Now I know many of us think we are ready for contact of that type, even think its no big deal if that's the criteria, but remember me? I became a science fiction fan as soon as I learned how to read books, and getting used to the idea of alien beings visiting us here was no big deal for me, I didn't even have some profound reactions when I started to notice UFOs around the area where I live. But when it came to contact, when I was faced with things that are anything but human or human-looking, I fainted. And I have fainted quite a few times during the course of the contact in years before. I think its a thing you don't get used to that easily. And even after 26 different races contact you, you can still faint at the sight of some of them. Well, I did anyway.

The spiritual aspect, well, I don't know much about that one, since it hasn't been a topic of discussion with them that much. I know that some who are "very" spiritual actually gained their spiritual status from some other time (On Earth), and/or somewhere else (another planet), which brings us back to the past life connection thing I mentioned earlier. What does it involve, as a criteria? The way they put it out was, people who are advanced spiritually on this planet, are going to play a huge role in the redefinition of what spirituality, ethics, morals, and human values are in the future. They will have some role as teachers or something. That's all I know for now, regarding rules/criteria for contact.

[Rocky_Shorz]

Hi Onyx,

I had to step back to understand who is with me, while I was trying to sort them all out, I ran to the grocery store for food as I was walking through the isle I was hearing... "no wonder you are all fat" " shock at the resources we use to store our foods... I wandered over into the fresh foods and they had me pick up and handle many of the vegetables so they could see what they were... I left walking towards what I needed and as I glanced over at the meat section felt someone get sick, trying to learn the different links and an hour in the grocery store really helped, taught me how to turn on and off different links.

Yesterday I took the day off to broadcast live from earth...

we've been broadcasting fire and brimstone messages, torture... the worst of humanity...

now that I have the chance it was time to show truth...

I drove up to the mountains standing looking over our city to let it all sink in... One asked where the war was it looked so peaceful here.

I drove back down and out to the ocean, walked out into the water and called some dolphins, and several pods arrived they were dancing in the waves... Flipping out of the water, pretty amazing the show they gave us...

Birds of all types were on the beach and they were amazed watching them floating in the air and running in and out of the waves I felt laughter...

they saw a small child on the beach with her parents and they wanted to be closer, suddenly the child dropped her parents hands tipping forward and back, bent over to pick something up then turned and walked straight to me... when she arrived she reached out handing me a small stone...

the parents were all excited, for it was her first steps...

I put the stone in mom's hand for a reminder of the moment...

all she could do was smile...

question, intergalactic and inter-dimensional connections?

[Rocky_Shorz]

The image I made is gone... why?

they are still there, little pics back up a bit...



is everyone ready for tomorrow? 111 1111

[conk]

I read most all of your post. Extremely interesting!

How do ET travel through space in their craft? Manipulate time and space? Sorry if I missed this in your post.

[OnyxKnight]

Are we the only ones with an active A.I. on Earth, and
1- its orbit*
2- in-system
3- inter/galactic
4- interdimensional

1) No

2) Hell No

3) Most definitely - No

4) Negative ...


Question: Are the levels of extraterrestrial and AI involvement here on Earth greater or less than other species on other planets with the same physical and mental levels as humans? If greater then why?

Yes and no.

In some planets the ET and/or A.I. influence is more concentrated and in some worlds it is not. Some worlds are free from ET influence completely.

Those that are greater, why? Well, it can be a number of reasons. The planet may house a specific piece of technology not available in light years away. It may be under a 'protection program' for also various reasons. Maybe the planet has some unusual biological peculiarities. Could be the planet has some rare minerals and resources. Could be that the inhabitants are expected to evolve into something better than those who watch over them. It could be many, many reasons why ETs, or for that matter ET AIs would be interested and active, in this case more active, on other worlds.


2. What was the very FIRST AI created in our UNIVERSE?

To my knowledge, Arkuram. Its regarded as a divine entity by some ET cultures. It was the first and only artificial intelligence created by the 'Progenitors'. There are very few records of it. Its said that it has also 'ascended', along with its creators. 'Ascension' is one explanation given to the sudden disappearance of the 'Progenitor race'.

Omni's AI may know more, or of an even older example. We will have to wait till it decides to share.


Another Q:
I have heard that other civilizations does not allow a broader connection between AI's, because the danger of gaining too much control. Can you explain if this is true?

One of the basis for various alliances, is these AIs to share information between themselves. And some do create intentionally the AIs more powerful than them, in order to cope with defense and survival there.

Its a way they have made to bypass unwanted company to emerging civilizations.

Our planet was one such example, while we were young as a race. We were under a 'protection program' if you will. Now in quarantine unfortunately.


omniverse.
"This is beyond the clearance level for this thread."

What thread may we start or is it another forum, to answer the questions that can only be answered so far by this new above catchphrase?
Why is there a limit to what you can tell us?
I am really starting to not find these things funny anymore and i am afraid that if i don't follow it closely i will miss out on information it is all also making me feel very gullible aswell..

I can answer the questions Omni hasn't. I'm not bound by the contract he has with his A.I. And I only talk about what I know, and that which I know, I do not hold it for myself.

I do hope you understand Omni's situation. If it was his own choice, I'm sure he would answer all the questions you may have. I guess the A.I. is a bit more balanced, so in calculation (her own) it decided that some questions need to be left unanswered. I disagree and believe that in all that secrecy and censorship of information, that if we aim for balance we need to learn as much as we can, and get ourselves as informed as we can. Information and knowledge are the greatest weapons one can have. Intellectual artillery beats the one made of metals any day. If anything, with the intellectual one, you can build the metal artillery yourself.

Uf you have questions, I can assist in answers (given I have them).


2. Does AI comprehend love?

If allowed to learn for itself, yes, it can learn what love is. A little bit more harder as an artificially created being, but it can.


How many others are controlled by/connected to AI

There are a few Artificial Intelligences present on this planet. Omni's A.I. seems to have a good cloaking technology, so the rest cannot sense its here.

There is an ET A.I. on the Moon, influencing a lot of the behavior and emotions people feel on Earth. When a large population starts to act erratic all of a sudden, you know it has something to do with the Moon. Special effects on people who were born on a full moon (full spectrum of its electro-magnetic properties). Its a common fact that the Moon pulls the liquids in our bodies, but not many know that the electro-magnetic nature of the Moon A.I. is influencing people's hearts (who also have electro-magnetic properties). Or let's say, the heart chakra, to clear any confusion it may arise.

People go to extremes when exposed to the Moon - people become their most violent selves, or their loveliest selves. Many murders happen on a full Moon, as well as the most romantic nights happen on full Moon too.

Another A.I., controlled by humans, is overseeing the planet and is connected with the Moon A.I. It uses Earth's satellites (seen and unseen) to have "eyes" all over the planet. Been told that it uses the internet too. I wouldn't put much faith in the web-bots if I were you. It was an advice given to me after mentioning them to some of my friends (from distant places).

The Earth-based A.I. is created by humans, with human technology, under guidance and technical advisory of ETs.

On a positive note, I have heard that there will be a "positive" A.I. that will emerge from one of the Asian countries who will attempt to "override" the current one. In relatively near future. This A.I. emergence will be the result of an accident. A simple experiment that produced peculiar results. It will not be completely self-aware, but acting on its core program it will do some beneficial things.

Not sure if the "Machine", that "Charles" has talked about, or the A.I. Bill Ryan was told about by his friend insider (forgot his code name), is the same thing as this Earth-based A.I. system I talk about. It could be though.

And something more:


AIs rarely interact with humans (or other species out there) on a direct contact basis (at least to my understanding).
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I don't think this is true, regarding the matter of AIs that can simultaneously deliver messages to all races in the universe at once , based on what I was told. And on the matter of translators, they are not needed if there is a universal language for communication (telepathy).

I will share more information regarding AIs soon. Questions about this topic are also welcomed.

[ulli]

In Costa Rica, where I live, there have been many sightings, and in the newspapers since the early 90s there was a telepath who reported messages he received.
Then one day he was on an obscure TV show, late show, his message was that the following day ships were going to come and take energy out of the crust to prevent a major quake.
And sure enough, the next day on the main news they showed how several lights high up in the sky were moving about, like bubbles, very high
for about 1/2 hour.
After that I no longer feared a mass landing with humanity taken hostage. That was in 1994. Since then I have been running around telling people not to fear.
So many young ones there are scared of 2012 and come to me with questions. It's our job to turn them to the positive side, but as you said its not totally black and white, they are a mix like us.
Evolving, becoming.

[Maria Stade]

Thank you for sharing this !
You are not alone I have also met some of them trough wormholes, so they can be opened were ever needed.
All Love

[fopa]

Interesting thread thus far, thanks Onyx.

[Sir Eltor]

Hello again OnyxKnight

I was just wondering , since you have ties to ancient aliens , have you ever asked anyone of them about how EVERYTHING or shall i say ANY multiverse had it's birth ?

Or will this be covered in your in your up and coming info on time travel ?

Maybe even just a hint ? heh heh

thanx

[Roseheart]

Thanks for answering my questions. This is exciting!
I've had many angel experiences so.... I'll have to chew on what you said.
I see them in my minds eye and they are a very fine vibration. I think they present in this way (with the wings) to be acceptable and non threatening to me but I certainly don't think that's what they really 'look' like. I have had many beautiful and gentle experiences with them and also positive inspiration for my work...
Boy oh boy....

[Hughe]

Thanks a lot. I can really finish the big puzzle of Mongolian and aliens relationship.


Jake Simpson: The biggest secret (http://projectcamelot.org/jake_simpson.html) mentioned about a real A.I system.



The AI surveillance system, Jake told us, was literally "out of this world". It operates hyperdimensionally, based on a highly advanced quantum computing model that is basically our development based on acquired alien technology. This system is so advanced that the ETs themselves are unhappy that we have it.



There are a few Artificial Intelligences present on this planet. Omni's A.I. seems to have a good cloaking technology, so the rest cannot sense its here.

There should be at least four A.Is: Two A.Is on Earth, Omni's A.I, one from the moon. The A.I on Jake Simpson's report is belong to one of secret projects by humans. Question is where is the A.I which Charles is talking about. Is the same A.I on the moon or different one.

Bill Ryan and Kerry did spent good time with Jake Simpson so Bill might have more insight about the crazy A.I. :madgrin:

[Hughe]

I have one more question. Have you heard about Verdants?

Excerpt from Alien Mind, George LoBuono (http://www.alienmindbook.org/)


Krapf reports that, so far, Verdants have persuaded 27,000 other non-Verdant planets to join under their umbrella, adding yet another 150 trillion aliens to their empire, which touts itself as a collective. Each of the additional 27,000 planets is reportedly inhabited by a different alien species. Given that a galaxy like ours contains roughly 150 billion stars, there should be many habitable planets in a typical galaxy. So, we shouldn't conclude that Verdant numbers mean they control a number of large galaxies. A single large spiral galaxy could contain most of the Verdant alignment. For example, if all Verdant planets were in a single large spiral galaxy like the Milky Way, Verdants would live in but one of every 600,000 to 1,000,000 star systems.

Krapf says his Verdant contacts informed him that they were the only colonizers they knew of in the universe. If true, that would mean they’re probably more manipulative than non-colonizing aliens. Krapf says Verdants call their umbrella the Intergalactic Federation of Sovereign Planets, or the IFSP. So, if Krapf is correct we live within reach
of a galaxy that’s 14 million light years away and inhabited by colonizing Verdants who speak in terms of a federated structure, which implies a central, over-riding authority. Verdant and gray alien abductions of humans may have accelerated our awareness of off-world dynamics. Krapf writes that in a series of meetings on a 1 ½ mile diameter, disk-shaped craft with many windows and entry ports, Verdants admitted that they orchestrated years of human abductions for scientific and breeding purposes prior to attempting a diplomatic opening to humankind. Electrogravity/magnetogravity was apparently used to slow certain brain processes and render abductees semi-conscious so that they wouldn’t remember such events. Krapf’s story is the first that presents an integrated overview of such abductions. It may be important. Navy intelligence briefer to the Pacific Fleet Commander, William Cooper, corroborated Krapf’s report about a large alien mother ship that hovers in the far side shadow of the moon. (Cooper, “Operation Majority”)

Krapf says Verdants have contacted roughly 800 human "ambassadors," people chosen by Verdants, not by humans, to help initiate relations with the Verdant contingent aboard ship. Krapf says that while onboard he saw at least one US citizen of national stature being led on a tour of the disk. Krapf felt intimidated in the man’s presence. While in the disk, Krapf learned that a Times Mirror executive (LA Times) was part of the program.

[Jake]

I just made my way through the entire thread. I want to read the book. Onyx, You have a gift! Your thoughts come accross perfectly clear using words, and your words resonate. Any memory of physical contact has been removed/repressed for me. I have 'come to' many times after an event, and found myself in strange places crying etc... I know there are memories of physical contact but they are not readily accesable. My memories of ET contact all seem to be Astral. So I have to ask, What do you know about astral and non-physical beings? I have always assumed that all physical ET races have the same abilities that humans do regarding astral projection and bi-location. I also know that some of the 'healing' races are non-physical. I can definately relate to your experiences with telepathy. It is easy if everyone else is doing it, not so much if nobody is doing it. kinda frustrating, actually. I can 'flex' the 'mind function' that I have always used. But it just does not seem to work with other humans. IT WILL!!! I have been taught/shown a great deal regarding the energy body matrix and its relevence to our understanding of the physical vs non-physical. That has been the focus of my interactions with any of the groups. I wonder what do you think is the main focus of what they are showing you. Sounds like an amazing past life connection. I am at the edge of my seat, please continue... jake...

[BMJ]

Sometimes it sounds like you are talking with yourself. Only you know those thoughts did not originate inside your head. Most of the time, you can recognize a distinct voice. And I knew it was them talking because I saw them nod, smile, and raise eyebrows while the telepathy was going on. And, I have to say its so awesome when you get to hear somebody else talking inside your head :). Imagine a "chatroom" inside your head. That's how it would feel like. Instant thoughts between individuals.

Those from Durre Menthor and Epsilon Eridani seem to have had a large influence on many cultural and genetic aspects of the present-day Slavic nations of Earth like: Russia, Bosnia, the Czechs, Ukraine, Croatia, Serbia, Slovakia, Macedonia, Belarus, Hungary, Bulgaria, Slovenia, etc. and have been part of the ET colonies we have named in myth as Atlantis and Hyperborea. They are also engaged in diplomatic negotiations with some governments on Earth for which they haven't disclosed names (not yet anyway). I know the countries are European though, but that's all. They also had a part as one of the ET races that added the genetic material in the long term experiments with the creation of mankind as we know it.

Regarding telepathy, spot on Onyxknight it is a very clear articulate voice within your head regardless of what language they speak it has always sounded like english to me whether I have conveyed words to someone or I have picked up thoughts from someone else. Or even when I had a conversation with my pet budgy, don't laugh it did happen guys.
Maybe your ET friends had been messing with my family tree some way back because I am of Slovenian / Czech orgins.

I'm glad your confirmed this last time I mentioned it I had people replying by telling me what telepathy really is like, and I thought well you have to try it to know what it is actually like and not just theorize.

[BMJ]

Hi Onyxknight,
What's your ET friends take leading up to December 21st 2012, is acension going to happen?
Or anything for that matter?
What things maybe happening coming up to this time?

Are you familiar with George Kavassilas work and if so what are your thoughts?

Thank you.
Boris

[Rocky_Shorz]

They are really pissed off at the current rulership on Earth, and the whole 'Illuminati' and 'Reptoid' thing going on behind the scenes and under the Earth. They are also interested in the biological aspects of humans, but the 'Allied Worlds' have ruled out any face to face interaction, if opportunity arises. They might research humans who are caught outside the solar system doing illegal activities, like what is going on with Altair at the moment. If they catch them, they even have the permission to dissect them as frogs. Even though their nature is a bit scary, they are not hostile, from what I have gathered. They are capable of decent communication and understanding, and for an insectoid species, understand a lot of our concepts. Probably because of a long-term research from an observationist standpoint...


Of what ANKH, or the (God's) Key of Life is. And it doesn't make much sense until you enter (the) vowels in it - and you get An.Nu.nK.Hi. Sounds familiar? Its the Anunnaki. To my understanding, the Anunnaki encompass many civilizations (The cultures involved in Hyperborea, Atlantis and Lemuria), but are first and foremost used to describe the Nibiru civilizations. They were the first to mess with us genetically...

I will expand more on that later on. My point was, that this is their take on Angels, Archangels and Ascended Masters. Maybe a bit disappointing for some, but I'm sorry, this is what the think of it, and what my research has lead me so far too.


ahhh my friend, God and the Angels were here long before those who tried to appear as them...

How is communications going with the reptoids now? ;)

it's III IIII the day of awakening...

welcome back humans...

[ulli]

They are really pissed off at the current rulership on Earth, and the whole 'Illuminati' and 'Reptoid' thing going on behind the scenes and under the Earth. They are also interested in the biological aspects of humans, but the 'Allied Worlds' have ruled out any face to face interaction, if opportunity arises. They might research humans who are caught outside the solar system doing illegal activities, like what is going on with Altair at the moment. If they catch them, they even have the permission to dissect them as frogs. Even though their nature is a bit scary, they are not hostile, from what I have gathered. They are capable of decent communication and understanding, and for an insectoid species, understand a lot of our concepts. Probably because of a long-term research from an observationist standpoint...


Of what ANKH, or the (God's) Key of Life is. And it doesn't make much sense until you enter (the) vowels in it - and you get An.Nu.nK.Hi. Sounds familiar? Its the Anunnaki. To my understanding, the Anunnaki encompass many civilizations (The cultures involved in Hyperborea, Atlantis and Lemuria), but are first and foremost used to describe the Nibiru civilizations. They were the first to mess with us genetically...

I will expand more on that later on. My point was, that this is their take on Angels, Archangels and Ascended Masters. Maybe a bit disappointing for some, but I'm sorry, this is what the think of it, and what my research has lead me so far too.


ahhh my friend, God and the Angels were here long before those who tried to appear as them...

How is communications going with the reptoids now? ;)

it's III IIII the day of awakening...

welcome back humans...


Ulli, wiping forehead....PHEW!

[Möbius]

Hello OnyxKnight,

I have enjoyed reading about your experience very much.

Have the other races discussed with you the micro aspects of the universe such as the mechanics of atoms, DNA, genes etc?

Mobius

[Fatherof2Girls]

Thank u for opening up & sharing . ... I enjoy reading this thread ..... what is your view on DNA? Is it limited to the physical body? Is there any connection to one's higher self?

[bennycog]

you said they showed you things.. was this japan earthquake one of them? any info from here, we would like to know?

[ghostrider]

I'm curious about reptilians, and their culture/agenda can you tell me any info ?

[BMJ]

Hi Onyxknight,
Why do you feel the need to tell us about your ET experiences? (Avalonians I'd like to hear a reply from Onyxknight only on this, thank you).

Thanks Boris

[GCS1103]

Thanks for spending so much time on your posts about your experiences and encounters. I found it fascinating, to say the least. I am very interested in your opinion about when, and if, disclosure concerning E.T. contact will be made by the world governments. Do you agree with Bob Dean that it is a long way off or do you think it will happen soon?

[Rocky_Shorz]

They are really pissed off at the current rulership on Earth, and the whole 'Illuminati' and 'Reptoid' thing going on behind the scenes and under the Earth. They are also interested in the biological aspects of humans, but the 'Allied Worlds' have ruled out any face to face interaction, if opportunity arises. They might research humans who are caught outside the solar system doing illegal activities, like what is going on with Altair at the moment. If they catch them, they even have the permission to dissect them as frogs. Even though their nature is a bit scary, they are not hostile, from what I have gathered. They are capable of decent communication and understanding, and for an insectoid species, understand a lot of our concepts. Probably because of a long-term research from an observationist standpoint...


Of what ANKH, or the (God's) Key of Life is. And it doesn't make much sense until you enter (the) vowels in it - and you get An.Nu.nK.Hi. Sounds familiar? Its the Anunnaki. To my understanding, the Anunnaki encompass many civilizations (The cultures involved in Hyperborea, Atlantis and Lemuria), but are first and foremost used to describe the Nibiru civilizations. They were the first to mess with us genetically...

I will expand more on that later on. My point was, that this is their take on Angels, Archangels and Ascended Masters. Maybe a bit disappointing for some, but I'm sorry, this is what the think of it, and what my research has lead me so far too.


ahhh my friend, God and the Angels were here long before those who tried to appear as them...

How is communications going with the reptoids now? ;)

it's III IIII the day of awakening...



US backing for world currency stuns markets...

[Arrowwind]

Very interesting! and thank you for telling us your experiences.

can you please tell us how discern aliens who are friendly to humainty from those who are not, both in their physicality and in the types of ships they travel in?

I have a friend who believes some aliens will be taking some of humanity off the planet when end times come. Have you met any that are planning to do this and if so what is the plan for those they take off?

[Roseheart]

Hey Onyxknight.
At this time of upheaval, I've been thinking on the Disclosure Project and the (so called?) revelations by some of the men about alien ships arriving and shutting down nuclear weapons facilities they were working in. If these disclosures are true - I want them to disable and cool those reactors in Japan... Can they disable HAARP too?
Do you have any information about this situation?
Thanks and best wishes to you.

[Rocky_Shorz]

hi Onyx,

would you consider yourself as a trainee of MIB to be making so many non earth contacts?

[Herbert]

George Kavassilas says the Nordics from Orion can be dangerous and are not to be trusted. Are you familiar with the Galactic Federation of Light? I only ask because I'm concerned you might be caught up in the 4th dimensional "hive" that is apparently a trap. The 'Cabal' stretches out through the cosmos in 4th dimension . Appreciate your sharing.

[bennycog]

Hi and love,
Can i ask just one question two ways..
Can you ask your entities why they have not helped in stopping these nucleur disasters? or can you ask them why they are letting it happen and what is the outcome planned by them?
just a simple question..
thankyou

[OnyxKnight]

Hi onyx,
i got also the "fearmongering" accusations from people who don't want to see whats coming up, until they get hit.
What is your opinion about this:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?11701-Full-Disclosure-!

.


Thanks for spending so much time on your posts about your experiences and encounters. I found it fascinating, to say the least. I am very interested in your opinion about when, and if, disclosure concerning E.T. contact will be made by the world governments. Do you agree with Bob Dean that it is a long way off or do you think it will happen soon?

Disclosure will never happen if you wait on the governments to confirm and unleash evidence. Unless they do the 'False Flag ET invasion' event, and introduce us with one or two species they have been in contact with as the "savior alien race".

Disclosure in its real form will only come from ETs. Hopefully from the "good guys". They plan on revealing themselves after we get our heads together, fight this off (with a little help from them behind the scenes), and shape a better world. Depending on how good we organize, and how many act, the time when this happens should be relatively short. In your/my lifetime at the very soonest, and more possibly in the lifetime of your children, or younger relatives.

They may reveal themselves sooner if things go very bad globally, on this entire planet and our survival as a species is being put into question. They won't let the human species die, that I can guarantee. They have invested a lot of time and resources to just give up on us like that. But this would be in a way a "forced" disclosure. Not a carefully planned one.

[OnyxKnight]

I'm not feeling very well, I will be off from this forum for a few days.

I will answer the rest of the questions when I get back.

Till then, peace

[fopa]

I'm not feeling very well, I will be off from this forum for a few days.

I will answer the rest of the questions when I get back.

Till then, peace

Take it easy and rest up, wishing you a relaxing few days and a full energy recharge.

[bennycog]

be well please mate..

[GCS1103]

I hope all is well with you.

[Bill Ryan]

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Many thanks for this. Fascinated! :)

A handful of questions:





Anunnaki?
Mars Base?
Abductions?
Isn't 3x FTL still pretty slow for most interstellar travel? (Wormhole/stargate travel - which is almost instant, yes? - must surely be infinitely more efficient)
Future human time travelers?
How can an aquatic species evolve to become a technological culture as tool makers?
The real history of Earth?
Alternative parallel timelines? (What might be our future?)
Which races are co-operating with the US government, and why?

[Zook]

Without rationalism, we are faith-bound followers. Without skepticism, we are organic robots.

My skepticism, Onyxknight, amounts to two nagging questions.

One, why would one extraterrestial race choose you, a human unit of modest experience (age 22) and modest Earthly presence (here, I've taken the liberty to assume that you do not belong to any power structure; you may correct me if I am wrong in that assumption)?

Two A, what is the probability that more than one extraterrestial race would contact the same inexperienced human unit (of modest Earthly presence) ... for purposes of contact? Two B, how steeply does this probability diminish with each successive ET race that allegedly makes contact with the aforementioned human unit? To wit, do all the ET races get together and vote on the specific human unit(s) to be targeted for contact, prior to making contact? If so, do you not see the absurdity of that proposition?


:smow::typing:

[Bill Ryan]

Without rationalism, we are faith-bound followers. Without skepticism, we are organic robots.


You make faith sound like a dirty word.

And without faith, being willing to listen, and being willing to suspend our own disbelief, we are never going to get ourselves of the old-paradigm-thinking we've been stuck in for so long.

You're smart enough to know you've asked Onyx questions that he cannot answer, whether his experiences were real or not.

That means that your post was mere rhetoric that translates as I don't believe you.

[vibrations]

Zook, you're jealous, admit it. I am too, but what can we do? And who are we to judge who is suitable to be contacted. All we see is our (quite limited) perspective.
By my (humble) experience Onyx's info has a huge value. And every one of us has a right to believe it or not. And selecting "common" people is saying to me that the species he's involved with has a positive intention.

[Agape]

The right question seems to be 'why' would they spend so much energy on educating few individuals who are existentially tampered with since cradle if they did not expect these individuals to communicate the knowledge to the rest of human race ,
and why this all is being carried to the risk of the individuals being doubted , ridiculed and not listened to by human society .

It's not that your questions are unanswerable but without personal need and experience of such kind, do you wish to have them answered ?

They say an elephant has a good memory ...so also those who are to carry some extra ordinary message for mankind need to have one,

with that comes ..we also remember all the hurts .

And we have faith and forgiveness , and unquenched thirst to learn more ,

do you ....?






One, why would one extraterrestial race choose you, a human unit of modest experience (age 22) and modest Earthly presence (here, I've taken the liberty to assume that you do not belong to any power structure; you may correct me if I am wrong in that assumption)?

Two A, what is the probability that more than one extraterrestial race would contact the same inexperienced human unit (of modest Earthly presence) ... for purposes of contact? Two B, how steeply does this probability diminish with each successive ET race that allegedly makes contact with the aforementioned human unit? To wit, do all the ET races get together and vote on the specific human unit(s) to be targeted for contact, prior to making contact? If so, do you not see the absurdity of that proposition?


:smow::typing:

[Agape]

Not so long ago , this forum has voted ( oh really that's what you did ) whether to accept answers from another member ..
"important answers " from " important member ".

The whole system seemed to depend on few dedicated individuals , Bill as the leader of this sub-project , in that case ,
someone who trusted the individual fully .

There was no rational test of that individuals actual abilities and truthfulness in place , there were crowd emotions in place and who trusts whom .

It's illogical , fleeting , very transitory phenomenon , human race standing in front of a decision with buttons ,
should they judge the process as too difficult they simply will be 'clicking' here on yellow button, now red button perhaps ,
let's trust him, let's distrust him, let's remain impartial and show no feelings .

No matter how well you explain yourself , no matter how sophisticated are your considerations that's mostly,
how you behave unless forced by the social paradigm or immediate emotion to someone to behave friendlier .

You may feel to have all the answers or be convinced that there's no ultimate answer at all .

You may feel superior or inferior yet the feeling itself has 80% probability to be faulty .


One would feel good to answer here thinking it has a meaning corresponding to the knowledge level shared , cosmic proportions ..


:angel:

[ponda]

It is also possible that many people have been watched and monitored by et's without knowing it.They might be able to tune in to us with out us being aware of it.

Say you are a higher dimensional being who decides to incarnate here on Earth at this time for whatever reason.You might receive visits or telepathic contact from many of your higher dimensional friends.You might not yet know/remember them but they might certainly know you.These contacts might be from many different races of beings.Sometimes they might let you become aware of their presence and other times they might not.It might have already been decided what protocols were to be followed for each individual.

I would guess that contact and monitoring is quite common.


cheers

[SEAM]

It is also possible that many people have been watched and monitored by et's without knowing it.They might be able to tune in to us with out us being aware of it.

Say you are a higher dimensional being who decides to incarnate here on Earth at this time for whatever reason.You might receive visits or telepathic contact from many of your higher dimensional friends.You might not yet know/remember them but they might certainly know you.These contacts might be from many different races of beings.Sometimes they might let you become aware of their presence and other times they might not.It might have already been decided what protocols were to be followed for each individual.

I would guess that contact and monitoring is quite common.


cheers

Love it!!

"Binkie, will you turn that thing off... You've been talking to that Earther for over an hour"... "In a minute Mom... I need to answer one more question"

Not too difficult to conceive...

Imagine describing a computer, w/ cam, and microphone to someone just 100 years ago....

[Little Ishta]

Without rationalism, we are faith-bound followers. Without skepticism, we are organic robots.

My skepticism, Onyxknight, amounts to two nagging questions.

One, why would one extraterrestial race choose you, a human unit of modest experience (age 22) and modest Earthly presence (here, I've taken the liberty to assume that you do not belong to any power structure; you may correct me if I am wrong in that assumption)?

Two A, what is the probability that more than one extraterrestial race would contact the same inexperienced human unit (of modest Earthly presence) ... for purposes of contact? Two B, how steeply does this probability diminish with each successive ET race that allegedly makes contact with the aforementioned human unit? To wit, do all the ET races get together and vote on the specific human unit(s) to be targeted for contact, prior to making contact? If so, do you not see the absurdity of that proposition?


:smow::typing:

One: There are many extraterrestrial races out in the Universe. Maybe one of the races wanted contact. For all we know the other races may have contact with other humans already. And maybe these humans have an open mind. Maybe they think outside of the box instead of inside of the box? I don't know, it is speculation. It is a thought.

Zook I could get down to the nitty gritty and ask you why were you chosen to be born. But I won't. ;)

The only thing I know, is that the Universe is huge. And I believe we will have Contact one day. Besides if you really think of it, of Contact, we have made contact ourselves with the different types of nations. We sailed the oceans to find other humans. We made Contact. We even made contact with animals. To communicate. So needless to say, the extraterrestrials are probably doing the same thing as we did. And why not someone who is inexperienced? Someone who is experienced may need to be untaught to learn a certain way. We have been so conditioned in life. We think differently. Someone who does not have the life experience, is not conditioned, may be more open to new ideas. To new experiences.

Alas, these are my opinions. Just like you have yours. Keep an open mind though. We are all here to learn and to grow. Even I have my moments of disbelief. Yes I too have my doubts. And I take it with a grain of salt.

[Chuck]

Fascinating Onyxknight

I just stumbled upon this thread today. Thank you for sharing and spending considerable amount of time composing your thoughts and answering questions. Perhaps the answer to Zook’s 1st question, “Why you?” is answered by your willingness to spend so much energy to communicate your experiences. (perhaps even at the risk of your own health)… perhaps not so random after all.

No questions… just heartfelt encouragement and best wishes for a quick recovery.

[11alone]

They resemble yellowish "ghostly" jellyfish and are quite "gaseous" looking them from a distance.

Theres a band I listen to, its called Radiohead, and on their album The King of Limbs, there is a picture on that album that looks kind of what you described. I know its off subject, but i just wanted to share that with you :). Very Interesting experience you've had, It was great to read. I would also like to know more on the humanoid ET's aircrafts, thanks.

[Muzz]

Wow thanks for sharing.

[Rocky_Shorz]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NV4xhsYvU2g

that is a pretty scary cover...

[Gone001]

This is an amazing account thus far Onyx. I just got through part one and I'm about to get into part 2. I have to say I'm quite jealous already, I'm sitting here bored out of my skull while your flying about in countless different spacecrafts meeting all these new life forms. Assuming this is all true (and somehow it resonates, with me at least), then your life is basically Star Wars lol (One of the Species you described even sounds a lot like Chewbacca :P). Anyway I'm going to get back to this story and will probably post again afterwords. In the meantime if you and your space friends ever fly over Orangeville feel free to stop by. We could rock some x-box, order a pizza.... fly to Saturn, no biggy ;). Cheers Man and thank you for giving me something to be interested in!

Edit///

Ok just finished. One thing I was wondering; you described the 'Danago' as having blue skin with an Elephant nose, tusks, pairs of arms and being large. Is this creature at all an inspiration for the Hindu god Ganesha?

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_w6Ne4ZV_v5c/TQd-1ul2YAI/AAAAAAAAAB4/03MYXstD8VE/s1600/lor34h%5B1%5D.jpg

[MariaDine]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UiiktuqlioE&NR=1

Very insightfull arguments !
Made my day.
Namasté

[ponda]

SEAM said:

Imagine describing a computer, w/ cam, and microphone to someone just 100 years ago....


Yes i agree absolutely.Perhaps this is why we don't hear much about the type of tech the et's have and how their societies function etc.A lot of it might be beyond our comprehension and understanding.Some of these beings might be millions/billions of years more advanced than us.Many might of gone beyond the need for any tech etc

[ponda]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UiiktuqlioE&NR=1

Very insightfull arguments !
Made my day.
Namasté


Yes very interesting Maria.

Some people might find some of the info useful at the Allies of Humanity website.

http://www.alliesofhumanity.org/

[MariaDine]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UiiktuqlioE&NR=1

Very insightfull arguments !
Made my day.
Namasté


Yes very interesting Maria.

Some people might find some of the info useful at the Allies of Humanity website.

http://www.alliesofhumanity.org/


Thanks for posting the link.

Indeed ! It seems we think alike about this matter. :) We already know that any form of Dependency is not good for the developmentof One Self !

Namasté

[ponda]

MariaDine said:


Indeed ! It seems we think alike about this matter. We already know that any form of Dependency is not good for the developmentof One Self !


Hi,

Yes i agree Maria.It's probably why 'they' don't come down and fix everything for us.We have to learn to be independent and to take personal responsibility for our actions individually without outside help.

cheers

[Etherios]

Is Onyx well ? Anyone in contact with him?

I sure hope you get back to us soon Onyx and with good health. Be well and safe.

With love Themistoklis.

[ktlight]

Hi Onyx
That was a very honest and deep experience that you conveyed and it touched me. Personally, I feel such an experience is always a burden. Even though it is difficult sometimes, do not react to closed minds. Just stay focussed on getting the work done.

Stay well and keep the faith. Knowledge cannot be undone.

[bashi]

............................................... my bad; SORRY!!

[buckminster fuller]

Weird, don't see why an admin would have done that.. Keep us informed if you get news.

Onyx, hope you're ok man; give us news !! At least that it's all good..

[thunder24]

Hello onyx,
I hope you are feeling 1000000000000x's better.
forgive me if this has been asked, I didn't see it and I started a thread about it with little results.
How many of us here have an earthly parent and non earthly parent. thanks
peace

[EYES WIDE OPEN]

Without rationalism, we are faith-bound followers. Without skepticism, we are organic robots.


You make faith sound like a dirty word.

And without faith, being willing to listen, and being willing to suspend our own disbelief, we are never going to get ourselves of the old-paradigm-thinking we've been stuck in for so long.

You're smart enough to know you've asked Onyx questions that he cannot answer, whether his experiences were real or not.

That means that your post was mere rhetoric that translates as I don't believe you.

Well put Bill

[MariaDine]

Well, so far we know that most of us come from «other places» (other star sistems) and have been here acting out the karma .
Some are coming in (Earth) for the first time and for the Awakening.
Others are leaving as their «job» is done
Some keep in touch with the OutSide Family.
Others suffer from amnesia and have to be contacted directly by their «friends».
Some are here from other dimensions, look human but don't have (human) aura.
Others pop in and out of this dimension.

The last 2 don't join Foruns :)

Namasté

http://www.cartoonstock.com/lowres/sma0081l.jpg

[thunder24]

Well, so far we know that most of us come from «other places» (other star sistems) and have been here acting out the karma .
Some are coming in (Earth) for the first time and for the Awakening.
Others are leaving as their «job» is done
Some keep in touch with the OutSide Family.
Others suffer from amnesia and have to be contacted directly by their «friends».
Some are here from other dimensions, look human but don't have (human) aura.
Others pop in and out of this dimension.

The last 2 don't join Foruns :)

Namasté

http://www.cartoonstock.com/lowres/sma0081l.jpg
thanks great link. I like.
I realize we are all alien, just wondering if there was something as to be shared as far as the physical makeup of this lifetime.
peace

[goldmother]

Hi OnyxKnight

Thank you for sharing your experiences WOW you are very privileged indeed

Give us 3 rings let us know you are ok (English humor means let us know u ok)

:hug:

[OnyxKnight]

In Costa Rica, where I live, there have been many sightings, and in the newspapers since the early 90s there was a telepath who reported messages he received.
Then one day he was on an obscure TV show, late show, his message was that the following day ships were going to come and take energy out of the crust to prevent a major quake.
And sure enough, the next day on the main news they showed how several lights high up in the sky were moving about, like bubbles, very high
for about 1/2 hour.
After that I no longer feared a mass landing with humanity taken hostage. That was in 1994. Since then I have been running around telling people not to fear.
So many young ones there are scared of 2012 and come to me with questions. It's our job to turn them to the positive side, but as you said its not totally black and white, they are a mix like us.
Evolving, becoming.

This is very interesting. Would you mind giving me a link to read some of this, about that telepath guy? If you can't, Im fine with it, just it would be nice to read.

I wanted to make a lengthy post on the 2012 thing, but I'm not sure if I should. It may go against what many people believe.

I will say though, that there is no doomsday scenario, especially 2012 doomsday scenarios. Even Nibiru doesn't exist anymore, so people don't have to fear anything about those topics. Its a nice thing you do with the people, and those kids. I try and do the same when I get the chance.

But the reality is, we do have certain things to fear, or be aware of, that may happen. They don't involve extinction, but they do have their potency for mass dying out of humans.

If fear didn't exist as a natural defensive mechanism, mankind would have died a long time ago. Of course, fear should only be useful in such cases, not to base our lives on it. Like some people do. Everything used seldom or moderately is fine. When people cross the line, is when things go for the worse.

And yes, things are more than just plan black and white. Even saying that they are in shades of gray wouldn't exactly out it. When you add a color to them, do you perceive why certain things are the way they are. Understanding the reasons behind an act we would surely deem "evil" is the first successful step at, in turn to be aware of it, to be able to also act on it, defensively, or act in a way that would counter those actions.

'They' were given the head start. Now its our turn, and we are catching up, fast.


Thank you for sharing this !
You are not alone I have also met some of them trough wormholes, so they can be opened were ever needed.
All Love

Yes :)

I'm not sure if I would use the word wormhole for that, but you are correct, they do use artificially created portals to connect two points in space, just like wormholes.

I'm also glad I'm not the only one here who has had contact of some kind. I feel more "normal", if that's even a word that still has any real meaning today :).


Hello again OnyxKnight

I was just wondering , since you have ties to ancient aliens , have you ever asked anyone of them about how EVERYTHING or shall i say ANY multiverse had it's birth ?

Or will this be covered in your in your up and coming info on time travel ?

Maybe even just a hint ? heh heh

thanx

I will need a bigger post for explaining that in detail (and I will make such a post soon), but for the sake of getting an answer right now, I will share something in short:

This Multiverse/Omniverse, has always existed. But it hasn't existed this way from always. To explain it in words that people would be able to understand, we need to look at the origin, or 'source' of the whole multiverse as an entity, or being. Think of the Multiverse as the sub-consciousness of "God" if you will. It would be easier to understand.

We are projections of a "dream". Of a "sleeping God". If one was to find out all the secrets of the universe, it would find a way to circumvent all its laws. As such, you become omnipotent. As omnipotent, you become "God", or more specifically, an "awakened" fragment/particle of "God". You join the source in its "awakened" state.

It sounds quack, I know. I had a lot of time pass before I swallowed even the basic aspects of this information.

Apparently, the "Source" of this Multiverse, decided to try out a 'different' experience and "fell asleep", thus creating the Multiverse. Now, how do I explain the fact that it has always existed?

Maybe if one was to read the definition of Omnipotence more closely, would understand a bit better. Time for the "source" itself, and for cosmic projections like us and other aspects (ETs, etc.), is not the same. We would consider it has always existed because of its cyclic nature. For "it", assuming we can put in some kind of category of what we deem 'sapience', it is probably just began to "sleep". I have no idea how to explain it in a better manner.

If I knew how to explain it, and figure everything out, like I said before, I wouldn't be here, I would be rejoined with the "Source".

You only "wake up" when you know you are dreaming right? What would happen if every single aspect of this Multiverse, gained full awareness? End of the "dream" and "subconsciousness".

I will have to find some other words to explain this, because as I'm reading this I think many would get even more confused than they were before with the nature of the Multiverse.

Sorry I can't be more elaborate.

I have the concept of it precise and clear in my head, but its like trying to explain the leaf of an idea to the atoms inside it, and then proceed to explain the branches and the whole tree. Its very, very difficult. We don't have words, terminology, nor concepts to be able to explain these things.


Thanks for answering my questions. This is exciting!
I've had many angel experiences so.... I'll have to chew on what you said.
I see them in my minds eye and they are a very fine vibration. I think they present in this way (with the wings) to be acceptable and non threatening to me but I certainly don't think that's what they really 'look' like. I have had many beautiful and gentle experiences with them and also positive inspiration for my work...
Boy oh boy....

I will have to explain myself a bit better.

Non-physical entities, do exist. They sometimes appear in forms we would be pleased to see like the images of angels we have concocted throughout the ages.

When those entities claim they are St. Michael, and ask you to live your life A to Z according to the Bible, that's when I get the red alarm, as anyone else should.

So, I do believe you have these experiences, I am just explaining a deeper understanding of it, than simply labeling it an angelic visit, if you get what I mean.

The names and what they used to mean, is what its different. The words, or labels if you will. That was my point in the post. Not "debunking" experiences involving non-physical energy-based beings :).

[manny]

hello oxy,
what do you feel about the charles material

[OnyxKnight]

Because of shortage of time, at least today, I will continue answering the questions tomorrow.

Best wishes to all of you :)

[bilko]

Dear OnyxKnight, i am only half way through your first post here but i have to get this down before i forget.

The valou sound very much to me like the extraterrestrial beings portrayed in james Camerons film The Abyss.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lJyRF0Fzl9Y

It is an excellent film and from the producer of Avatar, aliens, and the terminator no less. I wonder if there is a connection and where he gets his information from.

[MariaDine]

This is very interesting. Would you mind giving me a link to read some of this, about that telepath guy? If you can't, Im fine with it, just it would be nice to read.

I wanted to make a lengthy post on the 2012 thing, but I'm not sure if I should. It may go against what many people believe.

I will say though, that there is no doomsday scenario, especially 2012 doomsday scenarios. Even Nibiru doesn't exist anymore, so people don't have to fear anything about those topics. Its a nice thing you do with the people, and those kids. I try and do the same when I get the chance.

...

I will need a bigger post for explaining that in detail (and I will make such a post soon), but for the sake of getting an answer right now, I will share something in short:
...



---------

One of the good thinghs about information is, that if you can't present it to others, you are not ready yourself !

Namasté

[MariaDine]

POSTED BY ONYX -
«I will have to explain myself a bit better.

Non-physical entities, do exist. They sometimes appear in forms we would be pleased to see like the images of angels we have concocted throughout the ages.

When those entities claim they are St. Michael, and ask you to live your life A to Z according to the Bible, that's when I get the red alarm, as anyone else should.

So, I do believe you have these experiences, I am just explaining a deeper understanding of it, than simply labeling it an angelic visit, if you get what I mean.

The names and what they used to mean, is what its different. The words, or labels if you will. That was my point in the post. Not "debunking" experiences involving non-physical energy-based beings . »

-----------------

Are you talking about «The Urantia Book» ?


Quote from The Urantia Book -
«P24:7, 1:2.6 In theory you may think of God as the Creator, and he is the personal creator of Paradise and the central universe of perfection, but the universes of time and space are all created and organized by the Paradise corps of the Creator Sons. The Universal Father is not the personal creator of the local universe of Nebadon; the universe in which you live is the creation of his Son Michael. Though the Father does not personally create the evolutionary universes, he does control them in many of their universal relationships and in certain of their manifestations of physical, mindal, and spiritual energies. God the Father is the personal creator of the Paradise universe and, in association with the Eternal Son, the creator of all other personal universe Creators. »

Namasté

[Dionysus]

I wanted to make a lengthy post on the 2012 thing, but I'm not sure if I should. It may go against what many people believe.

I would never consider that a reason not to do it. If you have good information to add to the discussion, it would seem that it can only be a positive, in the long run at least. You may want to consider how to broach the subject though.

Speaking for myself, I would love to see an elaboration on this subject.



This Multiverse/Omniverse, has always existed. But it hasn't existed this way from always. To explain it in words that people would be able to understand, we need to look at the origin, or 'source' of the whole multiverse as an entity, or being. Think of the Multiverse as the sub-consciousness of "God" if you will. It would be easier to understand.

We are projections of a "dream". Of a "sleeping God". If one was to find out all the secrets of the universe, it would find a way to circumvent all its laws. As such, you become omnipotent. As omnipotent, you become "God", or more specifically, an "awakened" fragment/particle of "God". You join the source in its "awakened" state.

It sounds quack, I know. I had a lot of time pass before I swallowed even the basic aspects of this information.

Apparently, the "Source" of this Multiverse, decided to try out a 'different' experience and "fell asleep", thus creating the Multiverse. Now, how do I explain the fact that it has always existed?

Maybe if one was to read the definition of Omnipotence more closely, would understand a bit better. Time for the "source" itself, and for cosmic projections like us and other aspects (ETs, etc.), is not the same. We would consider it has always existed because of its cyclic nature. For "it", assuming we can put in some kind of category of what we deem 'sapience', it is probably just began to "sleep". I have no idea how to explain it in a better manner.

If I knew how to explain it, and figure everything out, like I said before, I wouldn't be here, I would be rejoined with the "Source".

You only "wake up" when you know you are dreaming right? What would happen if every single aspect of this Multiverse, gained full awareness? End of the "dream" and "subconsciousness".

I will have to find some other words to explain this, because as I'm reading this I think many would get even more confused than they were before with the nature of the Multiverse.

That is not a strange explanation to me at all. It has a lot of similarities to what various mystics and 'enlightened masters' have said about the nature of the universe, or as it sometimes called, 'the all.' Gurdjieff, among others, constantly referred to the need to 'wake up.'


I have the concept of it precise and clear in my head, but its like trying to explain the leaf of an idea to the atoms inside it, and then proceed to explain the branches and the whole tree. Its very, very difficult. We don't have words, terminology, nor concepts to be able to explain these things.

This is the same problem the aforementioned mystics seem to run into when trying to explain it to those of us that haven't yet achieved their level of insight. Apparently such 'higher realms' can best be comprehended symbolically, while our waking consciousness tends to be rather limited by our language constructs.

[Dionysus]

Onyx:

You originally posted this on your More Will Come ... thread, but it seems more appropriate for me to ask my question here.


A few of them have human connections in the various sources of the PTB. Its how they have come to know so much about the plans in detail. They have known the basics for quite a while, but not every single objective from their agenda. To my understanding, most of the "white hats" were quite present centuries ago, now only very few individuals that do leak information.

So contrary to popular thinking, not all of those involved with the NWO and the PTB are evil psychotic tyrants with a domination complex. There are always a few "white hats" as we call them here in Avalon/Camelot. There are some in NASA too, and in the various underground bases. We later come to know them as whistleblowers, or insider sources.

Were these "white hats" what were called the Rosicrucians? I am not referring to any of several current organizations that use that name, but what I can only describe as the 'true' Rosicrucians. Are these people still at work as they have been in the past, quietly behind the scenes?

[kaatje]

Hi Onyxknight,

Thank you very much for sharing all of this,what a fantastic story!
and i would like to thank Bill for pointing out this Thread:

Greetings Karin. :o

[ktlight]

POSTED BY ONYX -
«I will have to explain myself a bit better.

Non-physical entities, do exist. They sometimes appear in forms we would be pleased to see like the images of angels we have concocted throughout the ages.

When those entities claim they are St. Michael, and ask you to live your life A to Z according to the Bible, that's when I get the red alarm, as anyone else should.

So, I do believe you have these experiences, I am just explaining a deeper understanding of it, than simply labeling it an angelic visit, if you get what I mean.

The names and what they used to mean, is what its different. The words, or labels if you will. That was my point in the post. Not "debunking" experiences involving non-physical energy-based beings . »

-----------------

Are you talking about «The Urantia Book» ?


Quote from The Urantia Book -
«P24:7, 1:2.6 In theory you may think of God as the Creator, and he is the personal creator of Paradise and the central universe of perfection, but the universes of time and space are all created and organized by the Paradise corps of the Creator Sons. The Universal Father is not the personal creator of the local universe of Nebadon; the universe in which you live is the creation of his Son Michael. Though the Father does not personally create the evolutionary universes, he does control them in many of their universal relationships and in certain of their manifestations of physical, mindal, and spiritual energies. God the Father is the personal creator of the Paradise universe and, in association with the Eternal Son, the creator of all other personal universe Creators. »

Namasté

Hi Maria
You are the first person in years that I have met who has read Urantia.

How did you get on with the idea that he first human was made from lemurs? Perhaps this should be in a different thread.

[OnyxKnight]

Hi Maria
You are the first person in years that I have met who has read Urantia.

How did you get on with the idea that he first human was made from lemurs? Perhaps this should be in a different thread.

Urantia has some really good information, sometimes written in a way that needs a bit of a thoughtwork to guess the real meaning. But like any other material, at least in my opinion, it has its share of false information.

To my understanding, we do come from a lemur-like creature. As do all the humanoid, human-looking ETs. I think I had it in the ancient history material in my notes. I will expand more on it in this thread.

Provolution/Uplift would be one way of putting how we came to be.

[MariaDine]

Well, so far we know that most of us come from «other places» (other star sistems) and have been here acting out the karma .
Some are coming in (Earth) for the first time and for the Awakening.
Others are leaving as their «job» is done
Some keep in touch with the OutSide Family.
Others suffer from amnesia and have to be contacted directly by their «friends».
Some are here from other dimensions, look human but don't have (human) aura.
Others pop in and out of this dimension.

The last 2 don't join Foruns :)

Namasté

http://www.cartoonstock.com/lowres/sma0081l.jpg
thanks great link. I like.
I realize we are all alien, just wondering if there was something as to be shared as far as the physical makeup of this lifetime.
peace

«...the physical makeup of this lifetime.» ??? What do you mean ?

Namasté

[ulli]

Well, so far we know that most of us come from «other places» (other star sistems) and have been here acting out the karma .
Some are coming in (Earth) for the first time and for the Awakening.
Others are leaving as their «job» is done
Some keep in touch with the OutSide Family.
Others suffer from amnesia and have to be contacted directly by their «friends».
Some are here from other dimensions, look human but don't have (human) aura.
Others pop in and out of this dimension.

The last 2 don't join Foruns :)

Namasté

http://www.cartoonstock.com/lowres/sma0081l.jpg
thanks great link. I like.
I realize we are all alien, just wondering if there was something as to be shared as far as the physical makeup of this lifetime.
peace

«...the physical makeup of this lifetime.» ??? What do you mean ?

Namasté

we are star dust...

[ktlight]

Hi Maria
You are the first person in years that I have met who has read Urantia.

How did you get on with the idea that he first human was made from lemurs? Perhaps this should be in a different thread.

Urantia has some really good information, sometimes written in a way that needs a bit of a thoughtwork to guess the real meaning. But like any other material, at least in my opinion, it has its share of false information.

To my understanding, we do come from a lemur-like creature. As do all the humanoid, human-looking ETs. I think I had it in the ancient history material in my notes. I will expand more on it in this thread.

Provolution/Uplift would be one way of putting how we came to be.

I read Urantia many years ago. I think I read that the first lemur-like humans did not last long. Subsequently, and I cannot remember how it progressed to this, but there were then red, green, yellow, indigo, blue races spread out over the plant. Indigos were in Africa. I am not sure that I liked what was said about the indigos.

Can you expand?

[MariaDine]

POSTED BY ONYX -
«I will have to explain myself a bit better.

Non-physical entities, do exist. They sometimes appear in forms we would be pleased to see like the images of angels we have concocted throughout the ages.

When those entities claim they are St. Michael, and ask you to live your life A to Z according to the Bible, that's when I get the red alarm, as anyone else should.

So, I do believe you have these experiences, I am just explaining a deeper understanding of it, than simply labeling it an angelic visit, if you get what I mean.

The names and what they used to mean, is what its different. The words, or labels if you will. That was my point in the post. Not "debunking" experiences involving non-physical energy-based beings . »

-----------------

Are you talking about «The Urantia Book» ?


Quote from The Urantia Book -
«P24:7, 1:2.6 In theory you may think of God as the Creator, and he is the personal creator of Paradise and the central universe of perfection, but the universes of time and space are all created and organized by the Paradise corps of the Creator Sons. The Universal Father is not the personal creator of the local universe of Nebadon; the universe in which you live is the creation of his Son Michael. Though the Father does not personally create the evolutionary universes, he does control them in many of their universal relationships and in certain of their manifestations of physical, mindal, and spiritual energies. God the Father is the personal creator of the Paradise universe and, in association with the Eternal Son, the creator of all other personal universe Creators. »

Namasté

Hi Maria
You are the first person in years that I have met who has read Urantia.

How did you get on with the idea that he first human was made from lemurs? Perhaps this should be in a different thread.
»
... first human was made from lemurs?» ?????????????????????

I'm sorry, but I don't understand a word you are saying. I find difficulty understanding the way you speak English.

Besides I never said or wrote in any post that ...........«he first human» ,......... who ever it is.................was made from lemurs... .

Ps - Who wrote it was OnixKnight

Namasté

[Billy]

I have just began reading you experiences OnyxKnight, Thank you so much for sharing this amazing account of your personal journey. I will read on and ask questions later.

Bless you.

[MariaDine]

The info talks about the Manus, beings that coordenate the evolution of 7 Root Races. The first 3 have already left the Earth, The 4 th is still here, since more then 14.000 years. The 5 th race and the 7 sub-races are here now.

Many are on the american continent, being this civilization of the (years) 90, the 5 sub-race.

The 6 Root Race is coming in , through all those gifted children !

The 7 Race due to the 4 th Race being a «bit» late , and also some other factors, are late coming in... They should already be here to act together with the 6 Race.

Namasté

[Herbert]

Onyx said: To my understanding, we do come from a lemur-like creature. As do all the humanoid, human-looking ETs. I think I had it in the ancient history material in my notes. I will expand more on it in this thread.

Provolution/Uplift would be one way of putting how we came to be.

In reply: The Lemurs must be "the Feline race" that Jelaila Star talks about. The Felines are one of the two primary root races in our universe and ancestors of the human race.

Her site offers more details, including where their home planet is, a picture and description here: http://www.nibiruancouncil.com/html/felines.html

[MariaDine]

http://www.tuaregviatges.es/fotografia/india___tiger_project_0.jpg

:) That is more or less correct.

Namasté

[ktlight]

POSTED BY ONYX -
«I will have to explain myself a bit better.

Non-physical entities, do exist. They sometimes appear in forms we would be pleased to see like the images of angels we have concocted throughout the ages.

When those entities claim they are St. Michael, and ask you to live your life A to Z according to the Bible, that's when I get the red alarm, as anyone else should.

So, I do believe you have these experiences, I am just explaining a deeper understanding of it, than simply labeling it an angelic visit, if you get what I mean.

The names and what they used to mean, is what its different. The words, or labels if you will. That was my point in the post. Not "debunking" experiences involving non-physical energy-based beings . »

-----------------

Are you talking about «The Urantia Book» ?


Quote from The Urantia Book -
«P24:7, 1:2.6 In theory you may think of God as the Creator, and he is the personal creator of Paradise and the central universe of perfection, but the universes of time and space are all created and organized by the Paradise corps of the Creator Sons. The Universal Father is not the personal creator of the local universe of Nebadon; the universe in which you live is the creation of his Son Michael. Though the Father does not personally create the evolutionary universes, he does control them in many of their universal relationships and in certain of their manifestations of physical, mindal, and spiritual energies. God the Father is the personal creator of the Paradise universe and, in association with the Eternal Son, the creator of all other personal universe Creators. »

Namasté

Hi Maria
You are the first person in years that I have met who has read Urantia.

How did you get on with the idea that he first human was made from lemurs? Perhaps this should be in a different thread.
»
... first human was made from lemurs?» ?????????????????????

I'm sorry, but I don't understand a word you are saying. I find difficulty understanding the way you speak English.

Besides I never said or wrote in any post that ...........«he first human» ,......... who ever it is.................was made from lemurs... .

Ps - Who wrote it was OnixKnight

Namasté

This is what I wrote, in response to your statement about Urantial.

"Hi Maria
You are the first person in years that I have met who has read Urantia.

How did you get on with the idea that he first human was made from lemurs? Perhaps this should be in a different thread."

Onyx was responding to the second sentence, which is what I read in Urantia.

Hope this helps.

[OnyxKnight]

In reply: The Lemurs must be "the Feline race" that Jelaila Star talks about. The Felines are one of the two primary root races in our universe and ancestors of the human race.

Her site offers more details, including where their home planet is, a picture and description here: http://www.nibiruancouncil.com/html/felines.html

Have been through that website before. I don't like the information presented, because it goes almost entirely different than what I have been informed. And from what I have discussed with other people, I seem to not be the only one.

I'm sorry if this is disappointing, but I go by what I have been told and seen.

I am talking about a race of creatures with animal behavior when they were modified for the first time by the Progenitors, and thus creating the Lyran races.

By the time the same creature was brought on Mars and later also provolved by the Nibiruans, it already had reached some sentience.

To my understanding, there are no 'root races', and a lot of the things in Urantia are written symbolically, and need to be expanded upon, as all symbols are.

One of the Lyran races, were, in appearance, in the head at least, a bit felinoid. If they are referring to root races, maybe this is what they meant. If they deem that particular Lyran system the "cradle of life". The thing is, that planet produced three different races, one being humanoid, human-looking. The well known Lyrans many talk about today.

There is a lot to write, I will have to expand upon this so its more clear.

[MariaDine]

http://de.toonpool.com/user/1107/files/misunderstanding_171975.jpg

:p:o;):peep:

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In reply: The Lemurs must be "the Feline race" that Jelaila Star talks about. The Felines are one of the two primary root races in our universe and ancestors of the human race.

Her site offers more details, including where their home planet is, a picture and description here: http://www.nibiruancouncil.com/html/felines.html

Have been through that website before. I don't like the information presented, because it goes almost entirely different than what I have been informed. And from what I have discussed with other people, I seem to not be the only one.

I'm sorry if this is disappointing, but I go by what I have been told and seen.

I am talking about a race of creatures with animal behavior when they were modified for the first time by the Progenitors, and thus creating the Lyran races.

By the time the same creature was brought on Mars and later also provolved by the Nibiruans, it already had reached some sentience.

To my understanding, there are no 'root races', and a lot of the things in Urantia are written symbolically, and need to be expanded upon, as all symbols are.

One of the Lyran races, were, in appearance, in the head at least, a bit felinoid. If they are referring to root races, maybe this is what they meant. If they deem that particular Lyran system the "cradle of life". The thing is, that planet produced three different races, one being humanoid, human-looking. The well known Lyrans many talk about today.

There is a lot to write, I will have to expand upon this so its more clear.

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Already know that.
Thanks anyway.
Namasté

[Flash]

Thanks very much OnyxKnight, very interesting. I do not dare asking questions right now, not to get you overswamped (forums can do that as I witnessed here recently).

Personnaly I would be glad if you recoup by yourself and write about what happened to you, and what you learned that we should share in, as well as what they told you to tell us, all in one writing, i mean long pieces at a time. It would probably answer some of our questions anyhow and make for a coherent presentation on which we could then elaborate with our questions. It may avoid being overswampinbg you as well and not letting you the opportunity to truly explain.

Questions may be answered separately then. But of course, you do as you see best fit. This is only a suggestion.

I love reading you. Thank you for sharing. Be careful for your safety, you know a lot.

[OnyxKnight]

Thanks a lot. I can really finish the big puzzle of Mongolian and aliens relationship.

Would you please share? As I lack that particular information, but would love to know.

And you are welcome :).


Jake Simpson: The biggest secret (http://projectcamelot.org/jake_simpson.html) mentioned about a real A.I system.



The AI surveillance system, Jake told us, was literally "out of this world". It operates hyperdimensionally, based on a highly advanced quantum computing model that is basically our development based on acquired alien technology. This system is so advanced that the ETs themselves are unhappy that we have it.


Well, at least there is somebody else out there who knows about the Earth-based A.I. system. I only remember hearing about this in a video where Bill Ryan had a presentation, and was answering questions. I never went through the Jake Simpson material.

I'm not 100% sure it operates hyperdimensionally, but its very much possible. And if so, then most of our liberation efforts would be reduced to null.

... mind I said most.

Whoever controls that A.I. forgot the other ET factor in the equation.

Also, to my understanding, the alien technology humans had to build this A.I. system was consciously, and quite willingly given to them. SO I'm not sure what they would be unhappy, unless Jake was referring to the ETs we would deem "positive".


There are a few Artificial Intelligences present on this planet. Omni's A.I. seems to have a good cloaking technology, so the rest cannot sense its here.


There should be at least four A.Is: Two A.Is on Earth, Omni's A.I, one from the moon. The A.I on Jake Simpson's report is belong to one of secret projects by humans. Question is where is the A.I which Charles is talking about. Is the same A.I on the moon or different one.

Are you referring to the self-aware A.I. the Japanese will create in a few decades?

Because I don't know of any other A.I. systems at present, other than the Earth-based, back-engineered ET A.I. system (possibly the one Jake Simpson talks about), Omni's alien A.I, and the A.I. system situated on the Moon (who has malfunctioned recently).

One Earth-based, one Moon-based, and one based somewhere in our Solar system.

If you have more information, do share please.


Bill Ryan and Kerry did spent good time with Jake Simpson so Bill might have more insight about the crazy A.I. :madgrin:

I went through the whole Jake Simpson material, and I can say the guy is dead on about many things. The information he has, at least from that summary you linked me to Project Camelot, seems to coincide with a lot of what I have been told.

I disagree with him on a few points, but this is great since I usually disagree a lot with others who have claimed the same status, yet offered information totally unlike what I have been told.

Its difficult to share such information when you are deeply tied in with such organizations. I have no doubt he is who he says he is. I just hope he is alive, and safe, wherever that may be.


I have one more question. Have you heard about Verdants?

I have seen them under a different label in one of the databanks Kresimir had. He did say some may know them as "Verdants". So yes. Botanical, green, very cunning little buggers.

They are not allowed to do what they do in our galaxy though. I think most of the ETs already "smelled" their intentions.

[linz2d]

Thanks for the thread Onyx I have to say that you go into an amazing amount of detail, I have an illustrators mind so my imagination is working in overdrive. On a lighter side what do these visitors do with their recreational time. For example do they like music, art, philosophy perhaps going out for the night. And have you asked what they think of human art, music and culture.

Thanks

[Roseheart]

Hi Onyxknight and thanks again.
Just one personal question from me:
Could you explain what the high pitched tone that I experience is? I hadn't had it for a while but just experienced it again out in the middle of the country... literally in the middle of nowhere with no t.v or radio on in the house. When it occurs it's very intrusive. I've heard different explanations for this. Is it AI taking a look? ....
Also, when I look at the sky (during the day) it appears to be teeming with glowing flying worm shaped things... Are these natural? I asked before on the Icke forum and was told they were prana, ufo's and 'seeing the blood pumping in your eyeballs'... Is the sky like the sea and just full of stuff?
What's your take?

[thunder24]

Hi Onyxknight and thanks again.
Just one personal question from me:
Could you explain what the high pitched tone that I experience is? I hadn't had it for a while but just experienced it again out in the middle of the country... literally in the middle of nowhere with no t.v or radio on in the house. When it occurs it's very intrusive. I've heard different explanations for this. Is it AI taking a look? ....
Also, when I look at the sky (during the day) it appears to be teeming with glowing flying worm shaped things... Are these natural? I asked before on the Icke forum and was told they were prana, ufo's and 'seeing the blood pumping in your eyeballs'... Is the sky like the sea and just full of stuff?
What's your take?
I see the flying worm shaped things everywhere.

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Well, so far we know that most of us come from «other places» (other star sistems) and have been here acting out the karma .
Some are coming in (Earth) for the first time and for the Awakening.
Others are leaving as their «job» is done
Some keep in touch with the OutSide Family.
Others suffer from amnesia and have to be contacted directly by their «friends».
Some are here from other dimensions, look human but don't have (human) aura.
Others pop in and out of this dimension.

The last 2 don't join Foruns :)

Namasté

http://www.cartoonstock.com/lowres/sma0081l.jpg
thanks great link. I like.
I realize we are all alien, just wondering if there was something as to be shared as far as the physical makeup of this lifetime.
peace

«...the physical makeup of this lifetime.» ??? What do you mean ?

Namasté

I mean is there a percentage or number that can be given of the earths population, that mothers familial line has been on earth for a long time, and the father:tinfoil3: is not even from this planet. and vice versa how many kids are being born off planet who has a male earthling father and a female ET mother
peace

[Lefty Dave]

Greetings OnyxKnight
What an interesting young man you seem to be...and what an eventful life you have...
Would like to know if any of your 'associates' from other worlds, dimensions...etc., ever indicated any civilization or human remnant that resides inside the Earth...
Are you familiar with the theory that there is an abundant living area inside our Earth, possibly entrances at the poles, perhaps others, and that most of the vehicles we see flying around our skies may originate from inner earth locations?
Thanks for your time.
Blessings

[Icecold]

OnyxKnight

I'm a naturally sceptical person Onyx, and I've read all the material you posted here.

I have to say, my intuition is telling me this is factual.

A brilliant piece of work on your part.

You definitely need to write a book. Your explanatory flow is highly intelligible and is a pleasure to read.

I hope you continue to have many more experiences such as these.

Also, after reading this, I retract any statement I said regarding you theory of upcoming events in the solar system.

I'll take what you have said on board.

Though I would like confirmation that the planet X is not as large as Jupiter and I'd like to know what the average size of a dwarf star is?

Keep up the good work here sir.

Cheers,

Icecold

[ktlight]

Hi OnyxKnight
Question 1: Have you met any pig-like entities, or seen any?
Question 2: Have you seen or been in any very long, supple, undulating craft, possibly the same as what Credo Mutwa described, maybe a mile or so long?

I thank you in anticipation.

[Billy]

OnyxKnight

I'm a naturally sceptical person Onyx, and I've read all the material you posted here.

I have to say, my intuition is telling me this is factual.

A brilliant piece of work on your part.

You definitely need to write a book. Your explanatory flow is highly intelligible and is a pleasure to read.

I hope you continue to have many more experiences such as these.

Also, after reading this, I retract any statement I said regarding you theory of upcoming events in the solar system.

I'll take what you have said on board.

Though I would like confirmation that the planet X is not as large as Jupiter and I'd like to know what the average size of a dwarf star is?

Keep up the good work here sir.

Cheers,

Icecold

I agree with Icecold. For you to document all your experiences in a book would be a gift and education to all of humanity.

[Davidallany]

This is most interesting, I'd very much like to see you interviewed by Bill? Thank you for sharing.

[bilko]

This Multiverse/Omniverse, has always existed. But it hasn't existed this way from always. To explain it in words that people would be able to understand, we need to look at the origin, or 'source' of the whole multiverse as an entity, or being. Think of the Multiverse as the sub-consciousness of "God" if you will. It would be easier to understand.

We are projections of a "dream". Of a "sleeping God". If one was to find out all the secrets of the universe, it would find a way to circumvent all its laws. As such, you become omnipotent. As omnipotent, you become "God", or more specifically, an "awakened" fragment/particle of "God". You join the source in its "awakened" state.

It sounds quack, I know. I had a lot of time pass before I swallowed even the basic aspects of this information.

Apparently, the "Source" of this Multiverse, decided to try out a 'different' experience and "fell asleep", thus creating the Multiverse. Now, how do I explain the fact that it has always existed?

Maybe if one was to read the definition of Omnipotence more closely, would understand a bit better. Time for the "source" itself, and for cosmic projections like us and other aspects (ETs, etc.), is not the same. We would consider it has always existed because of its cyclic nature. For "it", assuming we can put in some kind of category of what we deem 'sapience', it is probably just began to "sleep". I have no idea how to explain it in a better manner.

If I knew how to explain it, and figure everything out, like I said before, I wouldn't be here, I would be rejoined with the "Source".

You only "wake up" when you know you are dreaming right? What would happen if every single aspect of this Multiverse, gained full awareness? End of the "dream" and "subconsciousness".

I will have to find some other words to explain this, because as I'm reading this I think many would get even more confused than they were before with the nature of the Multiverse.

Sorry I can't be more elaborate.

I have the concept of it precise and clear in my head, but its like trying to explain the leaf of an idea to the atoms inside it, and then proceed to explain the branches and the whole tree. Its very, very difficult. We don't have words, terminology, nor concepts to be able to explain these things.


Hi Oxyknight
I am absolutely loving this thread. It seems to open so many doorways for me.
Can i assume what you are saying here is that before the multiverse fell asleep it was whole and so omnipotent? If one is omnipotent it is everything so time and space outside it cannot exist according to our laws.

Once it fell asleep there was a separation, it spit between its waking form and its dreaming form. Thus time and space started at that exact moment, the moment of creation for this multiverse simply because of the split creating some sort of distance.

Distance or separation creating time needed to get from one object to another, space between objects creating the all that is not from the all that is.

Thus it has 'Always' been in existence because existence started when it split or fell asleep.

Am i on the right track?

[An Cailleach]

Also, when I look at the sky (during the day) it appears to be teeming with glowing flying worm shaped things... Are these natural? I asked before on the Icke forum and was told they were prana, ufo's and 'seeing the blood pumping in your eyeballs'... Is the sky like the sea and just full of stuff?
What's your take?

Hi Roseheart

I started a thread about these glowing dots/worms... at least I think you're talking about the same thing ;)

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?14517-Little-whizzing-white-dots

I found some of the replies very helpful, hope you do too.

[Roseheart]

Hi Roseheart

I started a thread about these glowing dots/worms... at least I think you're talking about the same thing ;)

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?14517-Little-whizzing-white-dots

I found some of the replies very helpful, hope you do too.[/QUOTE]

Hey thanks An.
That was useful. It's practically the same discussion that occured on Icke's forum... In the end, I don't think they are blood cells... They don't move with your eyes. I just 'feel' they are independant of me.
I love them.

[katewilliams79]

Apologies, not for public forum

[Snowbird]

I have to say OnyxKnight that I believe. I also want to thank you for your bravery in coming onto this forum and offering such an articulate account of your personal and ongoing experiences.

This really is an incredible read.

I hope that we don't wear you down with our questions, but you stated earlier that "Even Nibiru doesn't exist anymore", by that, what did you mean? I have heard that Nibiru was destroyed. Would you elaborate as to why Nibiru no longer exists and if it was destroyed, who or what destroyed it?

It is rather obvious to me that you have a particular mission on this earth and that mission is to educate us. We are in desperate need of this education and I thank you for taking this time and effort.

I'm ready for more.......... :alien:

[bennycog]

hey onyx how many extraterrestrials live in and around the universe like species in an ocean? just from a dream i had the other night i could see many different forms swimming in the upper atmosphere.. i was standing on the ground watching it all in awe.. fascinating dream

[NeoEmc2]

bennycog wrote:


hey onyx how many extraterrestrials live in and around the universe like species in an ocean? just from a dream i had the other night i could see many different forms swimming in the upper atmosphere.. i was standing on the ground watching it all in awe.. fascinating dream

I do not mean to answer for Onyx but I would like to give my two cents regarding your question. He might give you a similar answer...

The universe is infinite. Now try to imagine how many species can possibly live in an infinite universe. Me personally, I believe there are an infinite amount of species in the universe. The crazy part is that there are an infinite amount of univeserses too!

[vibrations]

I hope that we don't wear you down with our questions, but you stated earlier that "Even Nibiru doesn't exist anymore", by that, what did you mean? I have heard that Nibiru was destroyed. Would you elaborate as to why Nibiru no longer exists and if it was destroyed, who or what destroyed it?

:alien:

In '93 when I knew the group of people contacting some ET civilization we were told that a huge cold planet is approaching a solar system and by then they told us it will pass our system arround 2014 and that there is a lot of chance to destroy all the life in our planet.

Over years the information has changed. To make long story short, in 2005 they told us that the level of general awareness in Earth has grown a lot so for sake of preserving emerging conciseness which can actively participate in an evolution of known Universe the Aliance or whatever name we gave them, decided to change the direction of the huge planet (the name varies from culture to culture so name it Nbiru, Horcobulus, Ajenjo, it's still the same piece of rock) and that was what they told us.

If the planet was destroyed I have no clue.

I hope this little piece will add some brick to this wall of knowledge.

[OnyxKnight]

Hi Onyx,
..............
question, intergalactic and inter-dimensional connections?

I would say interdimensional.

Very interesting experience. I get a symbol of an eye. Sort of a watchful eye. but I get a warm and caring vibration about it.

Rare times when I actually get stuff to visualize in my mind.


I read most all of your post. Extremely interesting!

How do ET travel through space in their craft? Manipulate time and space? Sorry if I missed this in your post.

The Alpha Centaurians use some propulsion system based on water, usage of the hydrogen atom specifically.

Both the people from Tau Ceti and Epsilon Eridani use electro-magnetic properties in their craft system in order to travel.

The Velvetulans use what I could only translate as "preon burst" in order to travel in interstellar terms.

The Mekoran people from Nembus, use a "zap-link". They connect with the point in space they want to travel, and they create an energy line which their craft travels like an "elevator" on.

The Sophians have technology to bend space and time (as many other very advanced ET races, just like you asked).

The Altarfians use some kind of biological means to travel above the speed of light (I do not know the details of that yet).

The beings from the Matar system have living craft which uses an internal, biological, fusion reactor.

The An-Si-Pahr create mini-singularities in front of them for "pull".

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These are how some of those I contact travel. Those not mentioned in here means I have no idea yet how they travel on interstellar basis.

I know about few others:

The Procyonians use "space windows". I think they mean wormholes.

The Orion races use artificial portals/wormholes.

A race from Ursa Major connected with the Gray variants uses plasma engines.

The Thubans use particle acceleration technology on their artificial planet-like crafts.

if I find out more, I will update this post for you.


I just made my way through the entire thread. I want to read the book. Onyx, You have a gift! Your thoughts come across perfectly clear using words, and your words resonate. Any memory of physical contact has been removed/repressed for me.

Thank you very much Jake. I did (and I'm thinking about the same idea again lately) thought about compiling all my experiences and information down in several books, and maybe issue them online, free of cost. I don't like book companies, because I would be most likely forced to sell it as fiction, and I don't like being told what to do much. Besides, book companies also belong to this old system with their sole interests of making profit, and I don't like that.

Although with presenting this in such a format, I would be subject to heavy criticism (which I don't mind really), but also to a lot of mockery (which I have an issue with, unlike skepticism). But I dunno, I feel prepared for that. I will have to think about this more, before I decide what I'm going to do.

As for your memory, depending on when you had your contact, your memory might return (about 80% chance of this happening). If they used technology to repress your memory. if they used technology in the end to erase that memory, then you won't get it back.... successfully.... in this lifetime. Although memory is information stored in energy impulses that travel in your brain. They can't destroy that memory, because its based in energy. They can only affect the matter-based neurons who use this electric impulses back and forth to make the transfer of information successful in the brain. So they may limit what you remember in this lifetime, but you regain full memory when you leave the body, and/or incarnate in another.

Don't worry, things will sort out eventually for you.


I have 'come to' many times after an event, and found myself in strange places crying etc... I know there are memories of physical contact but they are not readily accessible. My memories of ET contact all seem to be Astral. So I have to ask, What do you know about astral and non-physical beings?

Why were you crying?

Have you tried any memory retrieval techniques?

I have only few experiences in the "Astral" (Not sure what it was). One was when I was 18, it was on 13th of October, and the other was when I was 20, on the 13th of December. I find it interesting that both of those experiences happened on the 13th of the month.

The first one involved a strange series of flashes in colors I have difficulty explaining (we don't have words for them?), followed by a series of flashing symbols made from the same colors. I'm trying to understand what they were/meant to this day.

(To note: My one and only OBE involved seeing space filled with almost the identical colors, in various formations, some of which I had barely recognized such, as our galaxies and the stars).

The other experience involved me traveling through a weird brown construction, with huge empty chambers inside. Many towers extending from the sides, seeing them from the window-like holes in some of the rooms. The traveling is done without walking. It involves zero gravity as well. Yet I seem to be moving quite easily, in some way, through all the chambers. There are black "horn-like" architectural decorations on the sides of the towers, and I saw some altar-like things on each side of the "doors", who are six in each room/chamber (there were "doors" on the "floor" and "ceiling" too).

My contacts still refuse to explain to me what I was seeing there. They remain adamant its a "puzzle from a personal journey, that you need to figure out yourself".

A question from me to the visitors of this thread: Anyone of you guys had an outer body experience involving 360° vision? Many seem to retain the human type of vision when they leave the body, which is very confusing for me, because or my personal experience like this.


I have always assumed that all physical ET races have the same abilities that humans do regarding astral projection and bi-location. I also know that some of the 'healing' races are non-physical.

That's true, there are non-physical beings who work on an energetic level repairing some of the damage done on the planet here. They have to work slowly, small step by small step, because if they use full power to fix everything in an instant, its like overdosing your patient with medication. You might end up killing them.


I can definitely relate to your experiences with telepathy. It is easy if everyone else is doing it, not so much if nobody is doing it. kinda frustrating, actually. I can 'flex' the 'mind function' that I have always used. But it just does not seem to work with other humans. IT WILL!!! I have been taught/shown a great deal regarding the energy body matrix and its relevance to our understanding of the physical vs non-physical. That has been the focus of my interactions with any of the groups. I wonder what do you think is the main focus of what they are showing you. Sounds like an amazing past life connection. I am at the edge of my seat, please continue... jake...

I will share my past life memories (those little that have right now). Their focus is that they are very pissed at how some groups portray themselves here. And that there is a lot of confusion about the alien civilizations who have our best interests in mind, and those who want to see our downfall, yet many of them are presented from time to time, and in certain cases often, as the "good guys". Its why I go to detail with some of the information regarding ET races. Those from Orion and the Pleidians are two of those who have a reputation they haven't deserved among many.

Regarding your experiences, maybe you could share some here, or at least that information that you have regarding the energy body matrix you were talking about here above in the quote.

And I'm glad somebody had something similar regarding telepathic experiences, that I can relate as well. Thank you.


Regarding telepathy, spot on Onyxknight it is a very clear articulate voice within your head regardless of what language they speak it has always sounded like english to me whether I have conveyed words to someone or I have picked up thoughts from someone else. Or even when I had a conversation with my pet budgy, don't laugh it did happen guys.
Maybe your ET friends had been messing with my family tree some way back because I am of Slovenian / Czech orgins.

I'm glad your confirmed this last time I mentioned it I had people replying by telling me what telepathy really is like, and I thought well you have to try it to know what it is actually like and not just theorize.

I don't laugh. My parents are still puzzled how I figure out what our cat Dembo wants :). Not always, but it happens quite often.

Yes, they do have a tendency to mix families. I would guess it has to do something with the Tau Ceti people. Its not anything sinister, don't worry. To my understanding, they are slowly repairing the damage done long ago, when we lost our image as humans, and became this, what we are today. Even with this skin color you see, as a result of genetic damage.

And also pleased that there is another one with very similar experiences in telepathy like mine here.


Hi Onyxknight,
What's your ET friends take leading up to December 21st 2012, is acension going to happen?
Or anything for that matter?
What things maybe happening coming up to this time?

Are you familiar with George Kavassilas work and if so what are your thoughts?

Thank you.
Boris

The Mayan Calendar ends. As many would say (me included). Only I will add that I was told that the dissatisfaction with this system, formation of various truth movements, revolutions, fights for freedom will increase almost exponentially at the start of 2013. Ascension is too far away to happen, there is something else in store for us at this time period. No doomsday 2012 scenarios, no "harvest", no "cleansing" etc, to be clear.

I will explain what ascension really means very soon in a post I started writing on last night, but I had trouble finding the rest of my notes to check something regarding "densities" (it is tied into that).

Regarding George Kavassilas' work ... I need another post to answer in detail. There are some things I agree with, but many I do not agree with personally.


ahhh my friend, God and the Angels were here long before those who tried to appear as them...

How is communications going with the reptoids now?

it's III IIII the day of awakening...

welcome back humans...

Hi Rocky :).

If by "God" you mean 'The Source' of the Multiverse, and "Angels" as the closest fragmented aspects of it, then yes, I agree. If you meant something else, do explain :).

Haven't had any new contacts with them yet. I had a really weird 'Reptoid' experience near the mountain in my country known as 'Jasen' couple of years ago. I was on a trip with friends and was sent to gather wood for the fireplace where we were staying. I encountered a 2.5 meter tall 'Reptoid', looking at me gathering the wood. It stared at me for almost a minute before I said "Hello" and moved to greet it more closely, when the creature started running like crazy. I'm not sure why it did that. But it was one of those that "hisses". So it wasn't one of those who I contacted, or who I deem to be the "good guys".

That mountain in our country is a bit of a mystery as it has had a lot of UFO activity, and there is a military/paramilitary base there where no civilians are allowed. Something like our version of "Area 51", though quite boring in comparison maybe :).


you said they showed you things.. was this japan earthquake one of them? any info from here, we would like to know?

They have shown me some things that happened in the past, some potential future events, and some things in present. Some other non-earthly places as well. But no, nothing of Japan. If they did I would have warned you all in time.

I will expand on it in a larger post.


I'm curious about reptilians, and their culture/agenda can you tell me any info ?

'Nordics', 'Grays' and 'Reptoids' are very general terms that people use. Its like saying Europeans when referring to a person who you had contact to. Europe is a sum of many countries, and like so, all these labels encompass large number of civilizations, not necessarily all "positive", and not all "negative" either. That's why there is so much confusion among abductees and contactees and their experience.

The original "Reptoid" prototype, if you will, was created in hyperspace by a very old and advanced civilization, which according to lore, came from another universe. They have noticed that the prototype life forms have started to become weak in hyperspace, so they decided they will take the most abundant element that they found in all the space they traveled, which was hydrogen, and they were modified to have hydrogen-based biochemistry. This civilization chose the system of Thuban (Alpha Draconis) in the Milky Way galaxy because it was the nearest system that they could find, that would support life forms like them.

After that they seem to have departed, and left the Thubans to evolve there. After evolving and becoming advanced in technology, they have left their planet and started conquering other planets and other star systems. The creatures that they have encountered have become a slave cultures to them. Its how the Draconian Empire started expanding. Soon, in one of their nearby systems they meet a very old civilization they have named it in their lore as the Paa Tal (almost 100% sure its the same civilization as the 'Progenitors'). Because of differences in philosophy and viewpoints it didn't take long for conflicts to arise, who escalated to wars. Wars that have left them sterile, and unable to procreate, which in turn led them to explore the area of genetics, that made them become experts in genetic engineering. They later modified their slave races by adding their genetic material to them, and thus creating new "Reptoid" species.

Even though we call them 'Reptoids', there is nothing really reptilian about them, since they are aliens. They are called that way because of a small list of characteristics that are similar to characteristics displayed here on Earth by a type of life forms we refer to as reptilians. Convergent evolution (or provolution in this case) can explain the similarities.

They engage in wars by using their pawns. Those subservient to them, the 'proxy warring races'. They have gone the coward way after the last war they had with the civilization they refer to as the Paa Tal. Hierarchy is everything to them. They are the top of the pyramid, all the enslaved races have their own place in the levels of power. It starts with the white Thuban masters, their gray and black variants being subservient of the white ones. There are red and green sub-species who are uplifted from other planets they found. Those in turn have uplifted and modified other ET species. It goes on and on and on.

They have noticed a rebellious nature in us, as a species, and they are trying to turn that instinct into aggressiveness, and hostile behavior, that they may incorporate in their empire. It seems at least some small part of us has become subject to that, and they have joined them (The MILAB elements), but we are largely a very hard species to bring down. If left to evolve freely, this rebellious nature might make our race a "cosmic knight" culture, who brings rebellion against injustice, brings freedom where there is oppression, creates life where there is none. Something they are very concerned with.

Important 'Reptoid' Empire Points: Thuban, Etamin, Grumium, Gianfar, 39 Draconis, Alrakis, Al dhi'bah, Alkaid, Dubhe, Kochab, Polaris, Ras Alhague, 70 Ophiuchi, 78 Cygni, Epsilon Hydrae (Ashlesha ), Algol, Izar (Epsilon Boötis), Bellatrix, Rigel, Betelgeuse, Alnitak, Sirius B, Altair, Sol B and D Carinae.

Star systems where there are 'benevolent' 'Reptoid' races: Sirius A & C, Toliman B (Alpha Centauri B), Capella, and Eta Arietis (emerging culture).

I will expand more on this when I get to my notes.


Hi Onyxknight,
Why do you feel the need to tell us about your ET experiences? (Avalonians I'd like to hear a reply from Onyxknight only on this, thank you).

Thanks Boris

To share some information, certain people may find it to be helpful, maybe important. I was asked to share this by them. I was eventually gonna do that myself, probably in a few years time, since I think information, on whatever subject, belongs to everybody, not privileged individuals.


Thanks for spending so much time on your posts about your experiences and encounters. I found it fascinating, to say the least. I am very interested in your opinion about when, and if, disclosure concerning E.T. contact will be made by the world governments. Do you agree with Bob Dean that it is a long way off or do you think it will happen soon?

I think I answered this question before in one of my posts here. If I haven't let me know, and I will :).


US backing for world currency stuns markets...

Of course they will, they need it as an important part of the NWO agenda. I, personally, am not stunned reading this at all.


Very interesting! and thank you for telling us your experiences.

can you please tell us how discern aliens who are friendly to humainty from those who are not, both in their physicality and in the types of ships they travel in?

I have a friend who believes some aliens will be taking some of humanity off the planet when end times come. Have you met any that are planning to do this and if so what is the plan for those they take off?

That's why I'm here. I will do a large post on ET cultures currently engaged with us as a race, and I will add details so you can know, in future, who you are dealing with, if you happen to run into some aliens there.

I can't squeeze it in this post, sorry :).

As for your friend - you said "when end times come". That 'when' word rings my bells. To my understanding, no "end times scenarios" are to occur, even less with a definite confirmation of the said. It also begs the question, who told him that? Some alien groups? If so, who?

If somehow, an unexpected event happens that would put into question our existence as a race, the civilizations of Procyon, Alpha Centauri, and an ET colony in 40 Eridani are to help save as much humans as they can and temporarily house them on their respective planets. Till they find a suitable planet for the saved.


Hey Onyxknight.
At this time of upheaval, I've been thinking on the Disclosure Project and the (so called?) revelations by some of the men about alien ships arriving and shutting down nuclear weapons facilities they were working in. If these disclosures are true - I want them to disable and cool those reactors in Japan... Can they disable HAARP too?
Do you have any information about this situation?
Thanks and best wishes to you.

I recently spoke about why the Japan disasters were not stopped in my other thread. As per HAARP, it is not as easy to shut it down, when the system is beneath ground, and we have the bases of the regressives down there. They can destroy the upper part, above ground. They are going to rebuild it in a day or two. Its like changing a pierced tire for them. Without the upper part of the HAARP system, the amplification of weather effects will become even more chaotic, and causing a lot more destruction and deaths. To destroy the whole HAARP systems, they will have to fire on the planet, or maybe "shake it", in order to mess up the system. But with that you get, again, a lot of destruction and human deaths as well.

Nuclear reactors don't extend with miles underground, do they?

Do you understand now why some people say often that, the ET's hands "are tied"?


hi Onyx,

would you consider yourself as a trainee of MIB to be making so many non earth contacts?

The MIB?

Could you elaborate what exactly do you mean by that?


George Kavassilas says the Nordics from Orion can be dangerous and are not to be trusted. Are you familiar with the Galactic Federation of Light? I only ask because I'm concerned you might be caught up in the 4th dimensional "hive" that is apparently a trap. The 'Cabal' stretches out through the cosmos in 4th dimension . Appreciate your sharing.

I'm familiar with his work. Some of the things he says are true, others are not (IMHO). The whole, masculine, feminine opposites, with Sirius and Orion etc., rings untrue to me. They forgot the Triangulum galaxy, what is that in the equation, an 'it' gender?

I will have to explain in detail why I disagree with his points, and go into very large details. It will require another post.

He is, correct though, about the Orion humanoids. They are part of the Orion Group of civilizations, and I believe its them who present themselves to people as the 'Galactic Federation of Light'. funny thing is, Pleiadians are also associated with this group. And we know how many feel about the Pleiadians, right?

There are also other things I do agree with him, on which I will also go in detail as to why, in a separate post. Sorry If you expected a different answer. But I'm here to express an honest opinion, not answering questions everybody would love to hear :). What would be the point of that?


Hi and love,
Can i ask just one question two ways..
Can you ask your entities why they have not helped in stopping these nucleur disasters? or can you ask them why they are letting it happen and what is the outcome planned by them?
just a simple question..
thankyou

I think I also answered this one in my other thread, regarding Japan and the disasters there.

[manny]

Hi Onyxknight.
can you please explain your avatar.
as imo it reminds me of a demonic overlord.

i think our avatars show a representation of some part of who we are imo.

what do you think.
thanks manny

[Rocky_Shorz]

Glad you are back and feeling better Onyx...

I'm not surprised about your vision, I get messages through dreams, visions and direct, when feelings are coming through makes it very important.

usually it triggers images from your mind that is related to the topic... why do you think the all seeing eye of the pyramid, gave you warm feelings when seeing it? the reason I ask is, I know you have strong feelings against TPB, but have also said not all of them are bad... This might have been an important insight for you.

MIB was a funny movie with Will Smith and Tommy Lee Jones - Men in Black

Were the beings in the movie close to any you have met?

[bennycog]

bennycog wrote:


hey onyx how many extraterrestrials live in and around the universe like species in an ocean? just from a dream i had the other night i could see many different forms swimming in the upper atmosphere.. i was standing on the ground watching it all in awe.. fascinating dream

I do not mean to answer for Onyx but I would like to give my two cents regarding your question. He might give you a similar answer...

The universe is infinite. Now try to imagine how many species can possibly live in an infinite universe. Me personally, I believe there are an infinite amount of species in the universe. The crazy part is that there are an infinite amount of univeserses too!

for sure i agree.. but ones i am asking about are fluid creatures i guess like jellyfish just moving out there in the universe, nothing containing them just their own bodies. like fish in the ocean..

[Mandala]

Wonderful informative post, thank you. Do you take notes on all the detailed information, such as various propulsion systems and galaxies of origin at the time you are receiving the information or do you have excellent recall? There is so much information here that I need to take notes on your posts. Your writing is clear and concise and quite compelling. Thanks, once again. Mandala

[GlassSteagallfan]

Thanks OnyxKnight for this post. I read the entire post in one sitting. Quite amazing stuff!

Some of the races you've described have hierarchal type societies, and others with subservient races that are genetic offsprings or created slave races.

If humanity goes the way of the slave race under corporatocracy or under a world government, is this allowed and considered evolution? Is this a 'hands off' situation to all the observers?

If it is happening elsewhere in the universe, why wouldn't we be subject to it also?

Paul

[BMJ]

Hi Onyx,
Thank you for your candid response on telepathy & George K. Also thank you for having the strength to come forward and give of of your time.

All the best Boris

[arpanet]

OnyxKnight, thanks for writing so clear and precise answers.

I think you missed some pretty good questions asked by Bill Ryan. I will quote them here again.
I think answering these would tremendously help understanding the bigger picture which Camelot/Avalon has been trying to figure out for the past years.


A handful of questions:





Anunnaki?
Mars Base?
Abductions?
Isn't 3x FTL still pretty slow for most interstellar travel? (Wormhole/stargate travel - which is almost instant, yes? - must surely be infinitely more efficient)
Future human time travelers?
How can an aquatic species evolve to become a technological culture as tool makers?
The real history of Earth?
Alternative parallel timelines? (What might be our future?)
Which races are co-operating with the US government, and why?

[OnyxKnight]

Arpanet, I'm trying to answer questions in order, as they are posted in my thread. If I start to pick and choose poster's questions I would loose track on answered and unanswered questions.

I did see Mr. Bill Ryan's post with questions, and it will be answered very soon, as soon as I answer the people who asked questions before him :).

I'm just trying to be fair here ;)

[arpanet]

Sorry, I thought you already answered some questions asked after Bill Ryan's post and thought you might missed it. There are so many questions that even I get confused :)
Glad to hear you are going to answer it...

[Realeyes]

A question from me to the visitors of this thread: Anyone of you guys had an outer body experience involving 360° vision? Many seem to retain the human type of vision when they leave the body, which is very confusing for me, because or my personal experience like this.

Hi Onxyknight, I’m just catching up with your latest posts – wonderful! I wanted to quickly reply to your question about 360 degree vision. From what I have experienced personally in O.B.E’s all my life, this is what I have discovered, for what it is worth.
Initially when people have their first O.B.E.’s they find themselves in a body very similar to their physical body and will move with their feet and see with their eyes using the mechanics they have learnt from being their physical body. With more experiences, confidence builds and they soon discover walking through walls and flying. It was by accident I discovered how to create a sort of vortex/wormhole not sure what to call it, which allowed me to go up into higher dimensions purely by taking myself (using my power of thought) into vertical flight upwards very fast. If I travelled/flew horizontally I remained in that particular dimension.
It was in these higher dimensions that I gained 360 degree vision. I would experience a sort of time/space reality perception around me, seeing everything all at once, no need to turn around to see what was behind me. Travelling in these dimensions is very different – if I think of ‘such and such’ I instantly ‘arrive’ there still keeping 360 degree vision – but no travel was involved – a simple ‘blink of’ and then a ‘blink on’ whereby all that I called ‘space/distance’ seemed to occupy the same ‘Space’ in different dimensions. An analogy of this would be everything existing past, present, parallel & future all existing on top of a pin head.
From my own understandings and experience, 360 degree vision is connected to wrapping up the visual (need) of a ‘body’ with all consciousness alert within the ‘head’; it feels like I have a head and I am still thinking and feeling the ‘mind’ and ‘identity’ I associate as ‘me’ but with less hang-ups and fear the higher I go gathering more ‘knowingness’. Now if someone was observing me I would be seen as an ‘orb’, a sphere of consciousness with 360 degree vision. I call my ‘orb’ my conscious travelling suit; I can unfold into a body at any time I feel like it upon ‘arriving’. The higher dimensions seem to me to be in a ‘Now’ constant ‘presence’ – no past or future – all Now. The higher up one goes in dimensions we all remain as conscious orbs changing colour to fit the dimensions/frequency we are experiencing that go into ‘no form’.
I have struggled with what words to use describing this – I wish we could do this via telepathy, it is so much easier, and that’s how all communication is done in these higher dimensions. Oh well, I’m back to being solid physical mentality for a while so I just hope I might have made a wee bit of sense and helped you further with your own enquiries on 360 degree vision. I will get back to reading your latest post – thanks again. ;)

[Realeyes]

This Multiverse/Omniverse, has always existed. But it hasn't existed this way from always. To explain it in words that people would be able to understand, we need to look at the origin, or 'source' of the whole multiverse as an entity, or being. Think of the Multiverse as the sub-consciousness of "God" if you will. It would be easier to understand.

We are projections of a "dream". Of a "sleeping God". If one was to find out all the secrets of the universe, it would find a way to circumvent all its laws. As such, you become omnipotent. As omnipotent, you become "God", or more specifically, an "awakened" fragment/particle of "God". You join the source in its "awakened" state.

It sounds quack, I know. I had a lot of time pass before I swallowed even the basic aspects of this information.

Apparently, the "Source" of this Multiverse, decided to try out a 'different' experience and "fell asleep", thus creating the Multiverse. Now, how do I explain the fact that it has always existed?

Maybe if one was to read the definition of Omnipotence more closely, would understand a bit better. Time for the "source" itself, and for cosmic projections like us and other aspects (ETs, etc.), is not the same. We would consider it has always existed because of its cyclic nature. For "it", assuming we can put in some kind of category of what we deem 'sapience', it is probably just began to "sleep". I have no idea how to explain it in a better manner.

BEAUTIFUL Onxyknight!!! I understand perfectly what you were expressing. :clap2: :clap2: :clap2:

Back in 1992 I came to the same realisation/connection. I am not so eloquent with words yet put this realisation into this sentence to remind me if I forgot. I use the term 'God' to mean 'Source' - nothing religous.

“I am dancing in the Mind of God.
God is meditating,
I am the mediation,
experiencing the Mind of God.”

:grouphug:

[OnyxKnight]

DNA



What little do we know about DNA, is just that - little. The general research on DNA thus far has focused dominantly on that 10% DNA that its active in our body and that we do use it. Even there, there are a few "key spots" who - if turned on - will awake some amazing properties and traits stored in our DNA. Rapid muscle development gene (ever wondered why almost all of the human-like ETs appear very muscular, and in-shape? Now you know), turning off another already present gene, results in slowing down the aging process tremendously etc.

I will focus more here on the 'Shadow' DNA (also referred to as "Junk" DNA).

According to the ETs, genetic codes are the 'programs' of life, or the 'software' of life, if you will. And as any software, the DNA can be re-programmed, activate certain codes, turn off others, have an entire hidden usage the "Computer" itself is not aware of, nor any "user" of this "Computer". They explained that to me, in this specific analogy, because they thought it is the most understandable to most humans, especially younger ones.

As any other "Computer", we, as "biological computers", are subject to "virus programs" and various forms of "malware", or if a "program" was "installed" to run the "Computer" differently than its original intended purpose.

To my understanding, 24 different races have been, and/or, some are still presently, involved, in our creation, and provolution/uplift (in other words, "assisted evolution"). They consider evolution analogous to "genetic form of Ascension process", that works in parallel with the spiritual/conscious (or energetic) version of what we deem to be "Ascension". Its about further development of your energetic and physical counterpart, from more simple form to a more complex one. Try looking at "Ascension" as a 'spiritual evolution' of a sort. I will get into that in another lengthier post.

Those 24 races took an evolving creature that reminds closely of the earthly lemur (though smaller, and quite different looking) and after various experiments in creating other life forms that would populate the planet, they create the human prototypes. I will expand more on the creation of mankind in another lengthier post. Its enough to say that we have two main, and ten additional DNA strands, 5 connected to each main one. Only the two main ones were made to be active at first. Later, in an incident that happens in Lemuria, with the "Garden of Eden" (On which I will explain things in detail) the remainder of the DNA strands are activated, which grants us God-like powers, and in a sense, more powerful than those who created us. Because not all were happy about it, in the course of time, through genetic manipulation and genetic degradation, we have came to be like we are today. With two main DNA strands, and everything else turned into a DNA soup, many thought was useless, till recently.

The DNA can also be influenced by vibration, light, and other types of energy and energetic frequencies. The effects are not always apparent in the individual, but sometimes they are reflected in their progeny. I have been told that, for example, electro-magnetic waves are the most potent sender of encoded information, when we talk about DNA, and storing it inside our body, in the form of additional genetic information, who today, because of the way we have been manipulated genetically, results in additional "Junk" DNA. Also, if I remember well, David Wilcock mentioned some research done by Russian scientists involving DNA, and the Mind (As seprate from the brain), and it coincided very well, with what I have been told. The only people I have find out that are close to what the real nature of DNA is, especially the "Junk" DNA, are Pjotr Garjajev, Vladimir Poponin, Peter Gariaev, Gennady Komissarov and Anatoly Vasiliev. Their work is very, very close to the real nature of DNA. I advise people to read whatever they can get regarding their research.

Here are some small parts I found in their material, that are truthful:


In 2005 a group conducted by P. Gariaev in Russia performed the following experiment. DNA samples were exposed to electromagnetic fields in certain frequency ranges. As a result, various luminous wave structures were created in the air nearby. They were recorded on film. These amazing phantom structures were found to move along complicated trajectories. Moreover, they mimicked the shape of the DNA sample and some objects surrounding it.

http://www.emergentmind.org/new_pa5.jpg


The Russian biophysicist and molecular biologist Pjotr Garjajev and his colleagues also explored the vibrational behavior of DNA. In brief the bottom line was: "Living chromosomes function just like a holographic computer using endogenous DNA laser radiation." This means that they managed, for example, to modulate certain frequency patterns (sound) onto a laser-like ray which influenced DNA frequency and thus the genetic information itself.


While western researchers cut single genes from DNA strands and insert them elsewhere, the Russians enthusiastically created devices that influence cellular metabolism through modulated radio and light frequencies, thus repairing genetic defects.


They even captured information patterns of a particular DNA and transmitted it onto another, thus reprogramming cells to another genome. So they successfully transformed, for example, frog embryos to salamander embryos simply by transmitting the DNA information patterns! This way the entire information was transmitted without any of the side effects or disharmonies encountered when cutting out and re-introducing single genes from the DNA.


This model is suggested as the basis for a more general nonlinear quantum theory which may explain many of the observed subtle energy phenomena and eventually could provide a physical theory of consciousness


Apparently, DNA is also an organic superconductor that can work at normal body temperature, as opposed to artificial superconductors which require extremely low temperatures between -200 and -140°C to function. In addition, all superconductors are able to store light and thus information. This further explains how DNA can store information.


To create an organism, two genetic programs are required. The first one is geometric, i.e. a scheme, how to design the body. The second program is in the form of a meaningful text which contains instructions and explanations how to use the first program, how to understand and build the organism. These programs exist in the form of “DNA video tapes”, which are used by the genetic apparatus, acting like a bio-computer. When the bio-computer reads these video tapes, sound and light images appear that constitute the movie program of the development of the organism. When the creation of a grown-up organism is completed, the movie ends. Then the second movie starts, which contains the instructions for maintenance of the organism for indefinitely long time. Unfortunately, the videotapes containing information about a perfectly healthy organism, get corrupted with time, errors accumulate (DNA mutations). The instructions accumulate errors and the organism gets sick, grows old and dies. It is very likely that these DNA video tapes can be renewed and corrected. With this new understanding of how our genetic apparatus works, completely new technologies for healing a person and extending a person’s life become feasible. And this is the essence of Wave Genetics and its practical applications to come.


For instance, studies have found that mutations in certain parts of the non-coding regions lead to cancer. Physicists backed the suspicions a few years ago, when those studying fractals noticed certain patterns in junk DNA. They found that non-coding sequences display what are termed long-range correlations. That is, the position of a nucleotide depends to some extent on the placement of other nucleotides.


In 1975 V. Adamenko in Russia performed the following experiment. After a part of a living leaf was cut and the remaining part was placed into a high frequency electromagnetic field, a visual image of the whole leave appeared. In other words, a phantom image of the cut part appeared which lived for 10-15 seconds and could be recorded on film. The experiment was reproduced by the Gariaev group and many other laboratories in the world.

http://www.emergentmind.org/new_pa6.jpg

http://www.emergentmind.org/new_pa7.jpg

I will need a whole new thread, to explain some specifics, and dive into heavy technical jargon, but not all people here have a deeper understanding of genetics here, so I will only stick to the most important things I wanted to share and inform on.

"There was always music and singing", he told me, "in the 'Garden of Eden', in order to setup, the genetic information of your kind. Word (or singing) is a sound, a sound is vibration, and vibration is energy. If we are the 'Gods' from your book you call the Bible, who do you think spoke the words(sang)?"- or in other words, setup our genetic structure.

This above is a small snippet of a conversation I had with Akiva, implying to the passage of the Bible, "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God", John 1:1.

Like any version of computers, we, as bio-computers, are subject to "hackers", and also get fixed by "programmers", either those who created the "program" or those familiar with it. The problem here is, even some of our own kind know play the "hacker" role. I will make a lengthier post regarding MK Ultra, various forms of Mind Control programming, subliminal messaging, and some details on "Mind-Hackers" (or mental hitmen), and something some may be familiar with as the "Mindwreaker Project". There is another one who started 50 years ago, "Dreamwalker project", a twin program, involving the dream realm and the subconscious state. Some of those things have been entertained in movies, although reality is a lot less fun, and quite more terrible than what you see in movies.

Having your DNA repaired also brings forth better genetic mechanisms for defense. For immunological purposes, who extend to the Mind field. Another reason why we are poisoned through the air, water, and the food we consume. GM food/Codex Alimentarius, chemtrails, the oilspill scenarios, all, are covert or overt events/operations used to poison the environment and us in order for suppression and further degradation of the human genetic structure. If we all had this detail knowledge about genetics, we would all know how to fix ourselves very fast despite the radical efforts they have taken to slowly destroy us. Also some of the technology we sue. TV changes brainwave frequency (to worse), satellites bathing us in various radio frequencies that affect our moods, cellphones who cause cancer etc.

I did mention how electo-magnetics can have some profound effects on genetics. Its very important that the baby is exposed to the electro-magnetic frequencies of the person who takes care of it, be it its parents, or one parent, relatives, or legal guardians. In order to develop as a fully grown and established individual. This process will influence his development with character and personality as they grow, and be more alike its parents or those who took care of it. The head should be close to the heart chakra, or the heart organ, who emits electro-magnetic properties, who transmit information stored in that energy to the head of the baby, who through its mind chakra will process that information and transmit it through its body and "save it" as a bio-computer, in the form of genetic codes.

Other alien civilizations may have a different genetic make up in comparison to us, they may even have something totally different other than DNA, but that like us, that constitutes to them, a genetic code (or something analogous to DNA). So the "rules" are more or less, the same out there.

In context of answering questions, there were a couple of members who posted questions having to do with this topic, but with additional topics:


Thank u for opening up & sharing . ... I enjoy reading this thread ..... what is your view on DNA? Is it limited to the physical body? Is there any connection to one's higher self?

The DNA does have a connection to the 'higher self', because all these segments are still parts of one being. In a sense, you would "survive" without a physical body, I mean, further exist, but the 'Higher Self', as a part of the soul/spirit, no. Its our basis to who we are, intelligently put together piles of energetic particles, who grouping in further complexity gain density and weight, and become us.

The fact that we know, and are aware, of whats going to happen, 1 second before it happens (right now), means that we all have a connection with our "Higher Self", who to our perception would seem like its slightly "into the future". In the past, we were able to "sense" the future events coming to realization, a lot more sooner than that.

I have been told that through procreation, the soul that attaches to the body also takes in some of the energy used in the sexual act, from both of the parents, and incorporate it into its own spirit/soul. Have in mind everytime you have sex, that there are souls waiting, for you to make a "mistake", and attach and experience life like you are. It may sound bizarre, and even might make some people feel weird while having sex, but its something they have told me to share with you, as a lot of women end up pregnant, when they cannot take care of the baby, and give it to others to take care of it, or go for abortion. Which they frown upon, because its destroying "contracts" and intentions of other spirits who wish to experience physicality.

They say that the soul "orbits" the "energy fragment" (I later found out they meant the joined spermatozoid and ovum) left behind by the mother and father, for about ~3 weeks / ~21 days before it attaches fully to it. By this time they justify, and approve, abortions, since the soul is not yet attached to the physical body. After that, they do get upset. They got angry a few times when they observed how a couple of young girls in the Middle East tried to abort the baby they carried, using very painful procedures, and when the baby already started to enter some of the later stages of the embryo form.


Hello OnyxKnight,

I have enjoyed reading about your experience very much.

Have the other races discussed with you the micro aspects of the universe such as the mechanics of atoms, DNA, genes etc?

Mobius

"Everything is crucial part of the Multiverse, you included. If you had the ultimate microscopic technology, or the ultimate telescope (macroscopic) technology, whether you zoomed in on yourself, or far away in the distant point in space, you would see after zooming through the preons, the bosons, the 'vibratons' and "strings", you reach a large sub-quantum area of your physio-energetic being, that if you keep going further down in observation, you would notice the outlines of another sea of "dots", which are actually other universes, in which beings of some kind live. Same result if you zoom out there in space, having the most advanced telescope, you would see the edges of our universe, and notice that there are other ones, larger and smaller, situated nearby, probably part of the quantum make up of another being. The Multiverse works in fractals. You are the macroscopic representation of, to your own perception, smaller, mini-universes, and at the same time, a microscopic fractal representation of this entire universe, and other universes out there. An even more microscopic fractal representation if you consider that those universes are sub-quantum representations of something bigger, and most likely, in some way or form, alive, just like you." ~ Hulma, my contact from Nembus.

- How's that for spiritual interconnection? :D

To make people closely visualize what I had in mind, this would be a very nice way to do so:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fiU77PamYls

Of course, the visualization, if real, would need a several more phases of zooming out, before reaching a "living being", but you get the idea (I hope) :).

Everything is a microcosm, and a macrocosm at the same time. The smallest particle, or point seems to be the outline of another universe and this who universe is also an elementary dot, constituting the smallest building blocks of something else. I was a proponent of the whole, interconnectedness thing (as its part of standard spiritual beliefs), but this information really took it to a whole other level.

The Multiverse thus, really is, infinite.

[linz2d]

"Everything is crucial part of the Multiverse, you included. If you had the ultimate microscopic technology, or the ultimate telescope (macroscopic) technology, whether you zoomed in on yourself, or far away in the distant point in space, you would see after zooming through the preons, the bosons, the 'vibratons' and "strings", you reach a large sub-quantum area of your physio-energetic being, that if you keep going further down in observation, you would notice the outlines of another sea of "dots", which are actually other universes, in which beings of some kind live. Same result if you zoom out there in space, having the most advanced telescope, you would see the edges of our universe, and notice that there are other ones, larger and smaller, situated nearby, probably part of the quantum make up of another being. The Multiverse works in fractals. You are the macroscopic representation of, to your own perception, smaller, mini-universes, and at the same time, a microscopic fractal representation of this entire universe, and other universes out there. An even more microscopic fractal representation if you consider that those universes are sub-quantum representations of something bigger, and most likely, in some way or form, alive, just like you."[/I] ~ Hulma, my contact from Nembus.


Reminds me of fractal animations


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G_GBwuYuOOs&feature=related

[Pilgrim]

DNA


"Everything is crucial part of the Multiverse, you included. If you had the ultimate microscopic technology, or the ultimate telescope (macroscopic) technology, whether you zoomed in on yourself, or far away in the distant point in space, you would see after zooming through the preons, the bosons, the 'vibratons' and "strings", you reach a large sub-quantum area of your physio-energetic being, that if you keep going further down in observation, you would notice the outlines of another sea of "dots", which are actually other universes, in which beings of some kind live. Same result if you zoom out there in space, having the most advanced telescope, you would see the edges of our universe, and notice that there are other ones, larger and smaller, situated nearby, probably part of the quantum make up of another being. The Multiverse works in fractals. You are the macroscopic representation of, to your own perception, smaller, mini-universes, and at the same time, a microscopic fractal representation of this entire universe, and other universes out there. An even more microscopic fractal representation if you consider that those universes are sub-quantum representations of something bigger, and most likely, in some way or form, alive, just like you." ~ Hulma, my contact from Nembus.

- How's that for spiritual interconnection? :D

To make people closely visualize what I had in mind, this would be a very nice way to do so:

Of course, the visualization, if real, would need a several more phases of zooming out, before reaching a "living being", but you get the idea (I hope) .

Everything is a microcosm, and a macrocosm at the same time. The smallest particle, or point seems to be the outline of another universe and this who universe is also an elementary dot, constituting the smallest building blocks of something else. I was a proponent of the whole, interconnectedness thing (as its part of standard spiritual beliefs), but this information really took it to a whole other level.

The Multiverse thus, really is, infinite.

The Multiverse thus, really is, infinite.

It is really what rings with me. During my childhood I had same dreams, visions, ideas, very similar what was discribed at the begining of the movie. Btw.I love that movie a lot. It was kind of clear for me, during my childhood the Existance worked in that way. When I imagined a universe it did role through my mind that time similarry. Amazing. However, as I grew older, becoming adult I lost that awarness of that. Thank you, OnyxK., for reminding me that knowledge. Amazing how it works, like a perfect orchestra. Brilliant. Your info makes me happily laughing. Cheers,P.;)

[Pilgrim]

This is most interesting, I'd very much like to see you interviewed by Bill? Thank you for sharing.

I agree with D. It would be more than interesting interview. I can see it kinda "MUST" work for Bill..:cool:

[Pilgrim]

The Alpha Centaurians use some propulsion system based on water, usage of the hydrogen atom specifically.

Both the people from Tau Ceti and Epsilon Eridani use electro-magnetic properties in their craft system in order to travel.

The Velvetulans use what I could only translate as "preon burst" in order to travel in interstellar terms.

The Mekoran people from Nembus, use a "zap-link". They connect with the point in space they want to travel, and they create an energy line which their craft travels like an "elevator" on.

The Sophians have technology to bend space and time (as many other very advanced ET races, just like you asked).

The Altarfians use some kind of biological means to travel above the speed of light (I do not know the details of that yet).

The beings from the Matar system have living craft which uses an internal, biological, fusion reactor.

The An-Si-Pahr create mini-singularities in front of them for "pull".


Onyx, May I ask, which technology or scientific aproach of those extraterestrial cultures are closest to us? Which of those systems would be easiest to grasp for our scientiests in order to use similar technologies for building a clean energetical sources to save an enviroment of this beautiful planet that we inhabit? Have you had any discussions on that subject with your ET friends? Doy they have any advice on that? I believe there might be plenty of scientific platforms available already, however, this knowledge has been stolen, corrupted or stored in safes by PTB certainly. Thanx for your sharing..


Those from Durre Menthor and Epsilon Eridani seem to have had a large influence on many cultural and genetic aspects of the present-day Slavic nations of Earth like: Russia, Bosnia, the Czechs, Ukraine, Croatia, Serbia, Slovakia, Macedonia, Belarus, Hungary, Bulgaria, Slovenia, etc. and have been part of the ET colonies we have named in myth as Atlantis and Hyperborea. They are also engaged in diplomatic negotiations with some governments on Earth for which they haven't disclosed names (not yet anyway). I know the countries are European though, but that's all. They also had a part as one of the ET races that added the genetic material in the long term experiments with the creation of mankind as we know it.

Can you also a little bit expand on this one? Wish you nice day. Take care.P.

[ViralSpiral]

Hi Onyxknight.

Having been away a while I had much to filter through. I LOVE this thread and thank you so very much for sharing. I look forward to all ensuing posts with great anticipation, and it is my sincere wish that you will never feel the need to stay away!

http://rationalia.com/z/rose-17.gif

[OnyxKnight]

-------- Anunnaki?

Hi Bill :)

Sorry it took so long (to at least start) giving you an answer to one of your questions. I just had to went through all the questions prior to your post, asked by the other members, so I can be fair towards everybody. I hope you don't mind that.

Now, the Anunnaki :)

The term itself is a very, very general term to be used. I'm confused why even the experts in that area, or people who had some ET contact, still use it to define a particular race. This is because this term encompasses a lot of different civilizations, who were present around the time the civilization from Nibiru created the first human prototypes.

I will refrain from talking about other races who were also referred to by this term (other than mentioning who they are), since there will be time to expand on them later, in case there is interest. I will stick to the culture of Nibiru.

Those of Nibiru are a really peculiar, interesting bunch. Long time ago (a dozen millenniums after colonizing Sirius), the colonies there (already slowly becoming strong and advanced civilizations themselves), and a few systems of the Orion Group got engaged in a new war that would have annihilated them completely. I still don't know the details yet, but somehow, they call a ceasefire and decide to make a treaty. The treaty involved a symbolic gesture of peace, by creating a unified genetic representation of both respective cultures. Those from Orion offered a female of a "Reptoid" race from Betelgeuse, and the Sirian civilizations offered a male from the Sirius B system (because those from Sirius A were reluctant to get involved genetically) to offer the Sirian genetic stock. They have artificially created a new hybrid race between them, representing both, but in the end, turned down by both as well, as soon after that the Sirian system gains the protection from a non-corporeal intelligence, and the Sirians rapidly advance in technology. The Orions didn't want them because they thought of them as "impure", and the sole reason they participated in this treaty was so they can later take over the Sirius system unexpectedly (they have seldom succeeded in this, with regards to Sirius B).

And we also have the wrong pronunciation of Nibiru, according to Koren - We should call it Ni-Bu-Ru.

They had uplifted a few ET species they have found around other star systems they have traveled to, that they incorporated them in their hierarchy, but they are not part of the Nibiru race. Anyway, the Niburuans were created on a beautiful red planet in the star system 18 Boötis, with a more tropical climate than Earth, and several times its size, and a bit thicker atmosphere. After the treaty had failed to keep the peace between these two warring cultures, the Sirians left the planet and the Orions threw the planet out of the star system's habitable zone out of anger (like a parent enraged from a betrayal of its spouse, and unleashes its anger on to their offspring, sending the cradle with the babies on the wild streams of a river - that's the visual I got). The newborn race had to fend for itself, and learn fast. They have managed to learn how to use some of the remnant technology left behind by the Sirians and Orions and started re-constructing the planet to become a self-sustainable habitat before the accumulated heat (Nibiruans breathe carbon dioxide, which was abundant on their planet, and carbon dioxide is the most potent green house gas out there) that should have lasted them for a few centuries disappears. With all the technology that they had available, they still were not able to mold the planet to become a self-sustainable habitat, with protection from radiation and with maintaining heat, so they prepared to go underground on their planet and try live there. Its there where they discovered the element of gold. Their planet had strangely large amounts of it, and through research they realized that this element had properties that could help them keep their atmosphere alive, and thus the heat they were able to produce with the rest of their technology.

They, I have been told, used this element to incorporate it in their already existing technology, and "seed" their upper atmosphere with monoatomic particles of this element.

Monoatomic gold, to be precise, is what was considered a true revelation. With a thing my ET contacts refer to as "stabilyzing field", they manage to keep these monoatomic gold particles up in the atmosphere, where the effects should take place. The electrons of the gold atoms, react to cosmic radiation, creating something the ETs I contact refer to as "spin" effect, on the electrons, producing a really unique vibration energy, from this particular element. It creates an electro-magnetic field which can decompose molecules who are composed of atoms smaller in mass than gold. The machinery they had on their planet produced significant pollutions which when in contact with their atmosphere, produced carbon monoxide, who had really serious damaging effects to the ecosystem as a whole there. By applying the gold monoatomic particles in their atmosphere, these harmful molecules break down to carbon dioxide and small amounts of oxygen, CO2 of which, is the gas they breathe. This electro-magnetic field I'm talking about, that emerges from these gold nanoparticles, enhances when they are exposed to solar radiation, of a star. I'm no scientist, so this can only be confirmed by other scientists, given they express a desire to test this, I'm just sharing what I have been told by them. Instead of using these nanoparticles to repair some of the damage we have done to our atmosphere, we poison ourselves with chemtrails. Words can not express my disappointment in my own kind sometimes.

Back to the Nibiruans, they came here to our multiple star system, in order to mine the gold, that they registered its present in our system after a few readings from their probes they sent here. They visit this solar system for the first time around aprox. 3 billion years ago. They observe the destruction of a planet I'm told was called Cerona, which was Earth-like, and in third orbit around this sun. The planet was destroyed by a hostile extraterrestrial civilization from the star system of Pi Cancri, who had a temporary association with the Orion Group at that time and it was chased away from this star system by the Nibiruans. 3 billion years ago, the Nibiruans were only busy mining the Jovian moons for minerals, gold, and other metals. They later create some rudimentary mining facilities on Earth, but they didn't have the proper technology and machinery installed here to refine the gold properly for Nibiru's atmosphere. The gold here was mostly used for the other aspects of their technological needs. Later, a large refining facility was set up on the Cydonia region of Mars, to refine the gold for transport to Nibiru. This also involved exchange of resources with other groups who lived on the Jovian moons, Mars, Cerona and another planet called Maldek. I will go in some further detail in the history of these relations, but for now I'm sticking to just the Niburuans.

The Nibiruans also have what is called, a rite for rullership, since they have adopted the heavy clan-based society model from the Sirians of Sirius B. The two respective lines of family, heavily opposed in worldviews, compete for the rullership of the planet every few thousand years. They usually abandon mining operations during this time, and leave star systems, and let the decision be made in the "void". They return periodically to the places where they have gold mines, but not in exact periods. The "3600 year" cycles is incorrect in several aspects, and mostly because they weren't here 3600 years ago, but quite a longer time than that. So, after the gold accumulation is complete, they leave this star system and travel to others. 95 million years later they return here, after a war that destroyed two planets (Cerona and Maldek), who are presently the Asteroid Belt. They create another huge mining facility in Central Africa. This time, few colonies came to research the changed planet Earth (Earth had been subject to slow terraformation), and a particular creature that was raised in domed facilities in the colony 'Ashoulan' (the present day Antarctica) caught their interest, as they observed that it had learned how to use tools for various purposes, like dig holes, create leaf envelopes to gather water, break eggs, open fruit casings etc.

They seem to have seen a potential biological, mining robot in us by that time. And in a way, I understand why they would see us that way. We multiply in large numbers, without them to waste much resources and energy on creating mechanical robots in large numbers, and we were 'dumb', not complaining (until the Tree Of Knowledge scenario). I'm still not sure why these facilities have been abandoned, I think the ET groups that brought the creature here to evolve had to leave because of Maldek and Cerona's destruction I guess. They have sort of left the "door open" for the Nibiruans. Thousands of years of genetic modification, by splicing genetic material has led to the creation of the first few ancestors of the primal ape species. And us, as a more advanced form of all of them, walking a bit upright. Unfortunately, this part of our historic provolution was led by En-Lil side of the family, so some creations who turned out to be disappointment to them have been exterminated. Some of the "missing links" will never be found, because they were eradicated on their own planet. Or so I have been told.

After a little more than billion years of servitude, the Niburuans leave the Solar system again. After a couple of milleniums, a "Reptoid" species from the star system of Izar, and starts its own genetic program while the Niburuans are gone. Our race comes a step closer to being a fully upright humanoid. After a few centuries of this program, they leave. After an atmospheric transformation program the automated maintenance units forbid the humanoids to walk on the surface, and remain in the domed facilities, who now have went underground. 31 million years ago, The Nibururans come back, and genetically engineer this humanoid species so that it has the Niburu genetics dominant in the body, instead of the newly discovered, alien DNA also present. After 4 million years, in which they have been the dominant force on this planet, around 27.450.000 BC they leave our Solar system in some quest in the constellation of Virgo. Our race, still primitive, was left to do what it only new what to do, mine gold. It didn't know the purpose for that, or why was the gold so important to these 'Gods', but since they find it important and valuable, we have adopted the same view as well, this early in our history. There are no 'Gods' to take the gold though. So some alpha members of the packs start to use hold the gold as a symbol of power and divinity. They later develop tools with whom they are able to break it down in small pieces, to use it for ornaments and accessories. This is where early rullership has its origins in our kind. Also, to note, before the departure of the Niburuans, an enclosed habitat was constructed in the underground of Central and South Africa, right next to the huge gold mining facility they had built there long time ago.

The first colony the Niburuans is set. It involved individuals of this race to actually set foot on the surface of this planet, instead of relaying on research probes, machines and nano-robots, like they have thus far. This colony is founded in 585.133 BC, it was founded in the territory of present-day Egypt, near Cairo. They have actually taken a peculiar invite, from a particular civilization of the Orion Group. In 71.933 BC, Nibiru joins a supercolony of different civilizations today referred to as Lemuria (Mu/Mu-Lan/Lamar). In 51.622 BC, they join another supercolony, of joint work of different civilizations in a small continent in the present-day Atlantic Ocean referred to as Atlantis. After a great war 20.000 years later, most of the Nibiru presence leaves this Solar system, and only few small groups remain in the underground installations here. They haven't expressed a desire to come back here until 34 years ago, when they set their course for our planet again, but were stopped in 2003 by an alien armada in the Kuiper Belt.

They were very much involved with the pre-Sumerian tribes they refer to as Cainanites, Abelians and Kalceans/Kalceonians. They have taken them as particular genetic variants of the various tribes provolved in Lemuria, and further experimented with them in their research base established in Iraq, south of their gold processing facility in the same territory. They later create the well known Sumerians, by mixing some of the tribal cultures and further experiment on them genetically. The Sumer culture was their product, and consequently, the Akkadian, Asyrian and Babylonian as well. The Babylonians, dragging roots from the Caininite tribe (as reference to the biblical Cain, and I will explain why in my next post) were the original ancestors of the Native American tribes. Mainly En-Lil followership holds these cultures and their progress.

Around 19.000 BC, En-Lil Niburuans, and some sub-servient Thuban races in the absence of the En-Ki Niburuan faction turn this planet into a planetary size 'zoo show', inviting many ET civilizations to sight-see the ongoings here in that particular time. These ET races were also allowed to explore and research whatever they found pleasing. Around roughly the same time period, the ancestors of the Mayan civilization were "dropped" in the northern part of present-day Colombia. A pleiadian faction has helped concealing them from a war that would be going on in the North American continent, ending with a desolation scenario, forming the present-day Chihuahuan desert. These tribes lived underground and traveled in the already established tunnel systems before appearing in the Chiapas area and spreading in the surrounding territory. The Niburuans were one of the groups most responsible for the "herding" as my ET contacts say they have referred to. In other words, they have been one of the most active races in our development, grouping in different cultures, and migrating us in different corners of the world.

The Nibiruans had small bases around the whole planet, but the largest ones were in Central Africa, and several places in the Middle East: Iraq, Lebanon, Egypt, present-day Saudi Arabia & the small territory of Israel, and there are some amazing artifacts, architecture and various forms of technology buried under the ground in these places. Especially Central Africa and Egypt. I hope something of this is uncovered during my lifetime, as it will change our history, our present and definitely our future as a race. Also, I wanted to mention something: Some of the later hybrids (or the Nephilim), between the Niburuans and us, are those who I refer to as 'Methuselahn' humans. The majority of this group are actually, essentially human, since so many years have gone by and they have mixed with the more "pure" halfbreeds (Niburu/human mix). If the 'Charles' material is true at least to some extent, Charles' master may be one of these 'methuselahn' humans.

The Niburuan civilization is 18 feet tall on average, with members going to min. of 12 feet high, to a max. of 25. This is largely due to them being a cross between very different races of beings, with contrasting heights. They have 6 fingers and 6 toes (a trait present from the "Reptoid" side of the genes), skin pale white, like snow, no eyebrows, white silk-like, or dark red hair, small bony humps above the cheeks, the eyebrow area and a small vertical bone ridge on the forehead (the bony traits are not present in all members though), they have a rib-cage of 14 pairs (28 ribs), they have "double dentition", or two sets of teeth, one row behind the other (another trait from the "Reptoid" race), stronger muscle fibers, amazingly powerful vocal cords, red, pink, yellow and blue eye colors. The majority of males have some form of beard, either short, or long, and their hair is wavy. They only wear full clothing suits when in an alien environment to what they are used to, otherwise they only wear some accessories and small garments to cover their genitalia, and are usually nude in the other body parts. The symbol you will see on their suits/uniforms, given they wear them, is a disk/circle with wings. It symbolizes their planet Niburu, and that it is a planet that can freely traverse space, unlike others.

Here is something else that I wrote about them a while ago (not sure if you read it, if you did, okay):


There are some people who claim contact with angels, archangels, ascended masters and the like. I haven't talked about this subject with many of the ETs, but those that I have, they don't like how the meaning the definition of it has twisted in the course of time.

The non-corporeal energy beings that we imagine angels to be are sometimes holograms, in other cases they could be real beings who manifest here in the form of energy, and thus glowing. They may take a human form so you can be more easily communicated. If its a real being, it won't present itself as an angel/archangel/ascended master. That's what they told me.

Those contacting St. Michael etc., they say its not real. But bear in mind this - the experience is real, the one people have. St. Michael is not real. Not the way we have pictured it. Many Mind Control operations involve hologram projections, and thought implantation, as analogous to telepathy, channeling. So next time one is channeling, bear in mind they may be channeling a black ops satellite in space.

The word 'Angel', or 'Angél' (more correctly, in pronunciation), is a modern form of the the word 'ankh-él'.

The ankh symbol - also known as key of life, the key of the Nile or crux ansata. I will stick to the oldest reference and definition, here the first one - Key of Life.

El - Deity, or God.

What do we get - God's Key of Life.

There was an interesting reference, not sure if it was Dr. Bill Deagle, David Wilcock or Michael Tsarion, who explained this way the names of the Archangels: St. Michael - Mi-Ka-Él, St. Gabriel - Ka-Bri-Él and so forth.

He also explained what each meant, but I have also forgotten that too.

I think it was El - translated as the Holy Fleet (Or fleet of God), and the rest of the words meant something else. So they are referring to spaceships. And it makes sense, picturing the angels as 'divine beings' with "wings", that come down from the sky.

Angel in common understanding means messenger from God. I think these spaceships were omens, sings, or a 'message' that the God(s) were coming.

Also, a lot of Egyptians hold the Ankh, the pharaohs in particular. If you look at the walls with the hieroglyphs, you will always see them holding the Ankh. Holding the Ankh means that they were descended from "Heaven", or you could say "space". The Angels were also later replace with the Enoch's 'Watchers'. Would also confirm that the best way to watch would be from above, in a craft.

Here is another example:

http://www.rebeltime.com/wp-content/photos/ankh.JPG

Of what ANKH, or the (God's) Key of Life is. And it doesn't make much sense until you enter (the) vowels in it - and you get An.Nu.nK.Hi. Sounds familiar? Its the Anunnaki. To my understanding, the Anunnaki encompass many civilizations (The cultures involved in Hyperborea, Atlantis and Lemuria), but are first and foremost used to describe the Nibiru civilizations. They were the first to mess with us genetically.

I will expand more on that later on. My point was, that this is their take on Angels, Archangels and Ascended Masters. Maybe a bit disappointing for some, but I'm sorry, this is what the think of it, and what my research has lead me so far too.

If you, Bill, or anyone else, have more questions about the Nibiruans, feel free to ask, I might have missed something you wanted/expected to be mentioned.

Now, on to the 'Mars Base' part of your question list Bill :)

[tkh123186]

I think Bill should try and do a web-interview with Onyxknight if he is willing; the information he provides us is fascinating and very detailed. He is either the greatest troll of them all or a true contactee; I believe he is a true contactee looking to better understand the nature of his contact and become spiritually closer to the universe. Cheers Onyx!

[Etherios]

Onyx man from the text above i can say that humans have been messed up a lot ... many many genetic manipulation. In the end what do the ETs you talk think of the humans? Are we seen as a slave/worker race of the Niburians? Cause in the end Niburians may have found the prehuman being but they were the "herders" ... so do they think we are owned by them + this planet?

[Hughe]

@ Oynix

Fascinating!



27.450.000 BC
585.133 BC
71.933 BC
51.622 BC
20.000
19.000 BC

The year notation should be used comma (,) every 3 digit not dot(.) for clarity.
27,450,000 BC
585,133 BC
71,933 BC
51,622 BC
20,000 BC
19,200 BC

Were there Earth origin reptilians?

[vibrations]

@ Oynix

Fascinating!



27.450.000 BC
585.133 BC
71.933 BC
51.622 BC
20.000
19.000 BC

The year notation should be used comma (,) every 3 digit not dot(.) for clarity.
27,450,000 BC
585,133 BC
71,933 BC
51,622 BC
20,000 BC
19,200 BC

Were there Earth origin reptilians?

Dear Hughe
Please understand that we are all from different countries, different language origin.
English is maybe our second, third or fourth language, so mistakes about dot or coma has little to do with a value of info. In my native language we do not put any sign between thousand mark, then others put dots, others combination of dots and coma etc.

So I think this is quite insignificant to mention it. I know it was your best intention, so it is mine. The real value of Onyx's info is in the content itself. And by MHO his English is astonishing.

And with Onyx's help we are building here a vast knowledge base to broader our understanding about what's around us. I have no any complain about what he is saying, contrary, the information I have is just upgrading on and on with what he told us until now.

15 years of studying the information received from other civilizations just became a small part comparing with what he is telling us. I thought I have a lot of info and when he started to share his info with us, my info just became a small part of much bigger picture. And comparing the information with two reliable sources I have just confirmed everything I knew with what he is sharing here.

[Dionysus]

@ Oynix



27.450.000 BC
585.133 BC
71.933 BC
51.622 BC
20.000
19.000 BC

The year notation should be used comma (,) every 3 digit not dot(.) for clarity.
27,450,000 BC
585,133 BC
71,933 BC
51,622 BC
20,000 BC
19,200 BC


Onyx, I hope you don't mind me stepping in here, but I think I can address this.

Hughe, and others who might be confused by the notation Onyx is using:

In many countries in the world, the standard notation is to use a comma for the decimal point, and periods to break large numbers every three places to the left of the decimal, for readability. In the USA, Canada, and I suspect all other Commonwealth countries, we use the period for the decimal point, and commas at every third place to the left. It is simply two different sets of notation. Neither is right or wrong. Most calculators, spreadsheets, etc., can display numbers in either format.

Another area of confusion is in the names of some large numbers. In the USA, a billion is a thousand million, 10^9, but in other places it can mean a million million, or 10^12. Likewise with a trillion, in the USA it is 10^12, but in some countries a trillion is 10^18, or a million (10^6) billion (10^12). Again, this is just differences in naming conventions. I'm not finding a way to use subscripts and superscripts here, I hope everyone understands what I mean by, for example, 10^6. ie: 10 raised to the power of 6.

These are some of the reasons for scientific notation, with all numbers expressed in exponential form, which avoids these confusions. Most people are uncomfortable with numbers expressed in this form however, so it is little used outside of scientific publications.

Onyx, I'm not suggesting that you use scientific notation. I'm just trying to clear up what might be a source of some confusion here.

[vibrations]

@ Oynix



27.450.000 BC
585.133 BC
71.933 BC
51.622 BC
20.000
19.000 BC

The year notation should be used comma (,) every 3 digit not dot(.) for clarity.
27,450,000 BC
585,133 BC
71,933 BC
51,622 BC
20,000 BC
19,200 BC


Onyx, I hope you don't mind me stepping in here, but I think I can address this.

Hughe, and others who might be confused by the notation Onyx is using:

In many countries in the world, the standard notation is to use a comma for the decimal point, and periods to break large numbers every three places to the left of the decimal, for readability. In the USA, Canada, and I suspect all other Commonwealth countries, we use the period for the decimal point, and commas at every third place to the left. It is simply two different sets of notation. Neither is right or wrong. Most calculators, spreadsheets, etc., can display numbers in either format.

Another area of confusion is in the names of some large numbers. In the USA, a billion is a thousand million, 10^9, but in other places it can mean a million million, or 10^12. Likewise with a trillion, in the USA it is 10^12, but in some countries a trillion is 10^18, or a million (10^6) billion (10^12). Again, this is just differences in naming conventions. I'm not finding a way to use subscripts and superscripts here, I hope everyone understands what I mean by, for example, 10^6. ie: 10 raised to the power of 6.

These are some of the reasons for scientific notation, with all numbers expressed in exponential form, which avoids these confusions. Most people are uncomfortable with numbers expressed in this form however, so it is little used outside of scientific publications.

Onyx, I'm not suggesting that you use scientific notation. I'm just trying to clear up what might be a source of some confusion here.

Another hepfull post, thank you Dionysus.

[arpanet]

He is either the greatest troll of them all or a true contactee; I believe he is a true contactee...

I wouldn't say troll but a very talented science fiction writer ;)
Anyway I also think the probability of him being a true contactee is >0.5. That is, I would rather bet money on him being a contactee than just a science fiction author :)

(Sorry for another useless post.)

[MariaDine]

Hi Onyx,
..............
question, intergalactic and inter-dimensional connections?

I would say interdimensional.

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He is, correct though, about the Orion humanoids. They are part of the Orion Group of civilizations, and I believe its them who present themselves to people as the 'Galactic Federation of Light'. funny thing is, Pleiadians are also associated with this group. And we know how many feel about the Pleiadians, right?

There are also other things I do agree with him, on which I will also go in detail as to why, in a separate post. Sorry If you expected a different answer. But I'm here to express an honest opinion, not answering questions everybody would love to hear :). What would be the point of that?


Hi and love,
Can i ask just one question two ways..
Can you ask your entities why they have not helped in stopping these nucleur disasters? or can you ask them why they are letting it happen and what is the outcome planned by them?
just a simple question..
thankyou

I think I also answered this one in my other thread, regarding Japan and the disasters there.

--------Hello OnyxK ! :)

Well, which of the two «Galactic Federations of Light« are you talking about ?

Namasté

Ps- Ah, another thing...Now that you are «on a roll», you could mention where the «Implants» are placed.

Ps 2 - You may also want to review the phonetics and the simbolism of the Ank. It's not accurate.

[Billy]

Hi OnyxKnight,
I am pleased to see you speak of the 24 civilizations. Can you comment on the following please.
As far as my research goes the 24 elders that sit around the throne of God mentioned in the book of revelations in the Bible, are the same 24 civilizations that seeded the twelve tribes, This was the latest seeding of Humanity. and there are many sub civilizations that work with the 24.
Have you heard the following names of those civilizations and Can you confirm some of the names of those civilizations.

Alteans. Who seeded the Atlantis.

Hoovans, Who seeded Sumarians, Hebrews, and Jehovah was a Hoovan.

Ashans, Who seeded, Scandivanians, Chinese, Phoencians, and also brought, Music and Art.

Zeneels, who were the Alchemists and Healers.

Other names are. Aragon, Myrex and Mora-Triomne work together, Ancore, Spectra, Zeemed, Zenthorp, Loanness, and Elarthin.

Do you recognize any of those names as members of the 24.

Thank you again for sharing. Much appreciated.

[Arpheus]

Now this was a thread worth reading and i mean that,as much as i'd like to say this is nuts or this sounds nuts i just fail to feel that way when i read all of this,i for one am open to more info and the whole origins thing you been talking about rings well and i do resonate with it,it makes a lot of sense tho and would explain more then anything why they been watching us for the skies since the begging of time on this planet,thanks for sharing your story onyx,eventually i will think of something to ask but i have to do some thinking first hehe.

[gong]

I, too find this thread and your information, OnyxKnight, highly intriguing. Really appreciate the detail, it does make it believable.

On this subject, I would like to ask you a question and would be delighted if you could respond as part your next posts. [of course i have got more, in fact i share some of bill ryan's but this one fits with the above]

Have you got further particulars on the vairous kinds of us humans and how these evolved/ provolved?

In short I'm thinking the dark-skinned african/ aborigines/ carribean type, the asian type, (also Indian type - geographically so close but different again), the european type and the native american type north/south.

Obviously our physical and facial features + skin colour tone are different and in parts, distinctly different. We are told that orginally, this is related to geographical locations and early human migration.
I have never bought the evolution theory from our educational systems on this but equally the creationist stories are not convincing either. The genetic engineering/ provolving theory -seems generally accepted as a possibility in the alternative community- seems rather plausible to me (also) and offers a lot of answers so yes, I'd be very keen to hear more detail on our history and how the various kinds of human types relate to geographical areas/ continents as well as migration (natural or imposed)

Much appreciate your time.

On a side note, I would also encourage an interview if you were to agree to it and I wouldn't be surprised if BR would be pursueing this in the background as this thread evolves...once he's got his answers of course :bounce:

p.s.
I may be itching here a bit but how do other life forms fit into this ET terraforming/ human engineering scenario...e.g. dinosaurs and evolution of birds, insects? sounds like designated/ protected + controlled habitats to me from what you write? If that was the case, who came up with the idea of designing dinos and for what purpose?

[hedigoto]

Hi Onix, thanks for sharing your experiences, I have some questions for you if I may:

A) Do the ET's belive in a God or god's as ultimate creator(s)?, do they have any religion whatsoever?
B) What do they think about mayor religions on earth? christianity, budism, hinduism, islam, judaism, etc.
C) Have they talked to you specifically about Jesus?
D) You already explained about angels, but do they say anithing about demons, episodes of demonic posession, the nature of it, etc.?
E) Have they ever told you what's the deal with "LAM", the entitty suposedly contacted by crowley?

I know this is maybe a lot to talk about, so thanks for taking the time to share and an comunicate in here, best regards!!

[Virilis]

Hi there Onyxknight!

Thank you so much for putting in the considerable time & effort in regards to disseminating the material in your posts. The information you have presented is truly breathtaking in its scope, & serves to make the Project Avalon forum one of the most enthralling of its kind. Like many other members, it is with eager excitement that I await the arrival of the next instalment :)

I'm a relative newcomer to the UFOlogy field, so I apologise in advance if my knowledge pertaining to this area lacks a certain depth. Your reply to 'watchZEITGEIST now's post had me intrigued.




2:Also do they speak of other "incidents" in UFO lore we are familiar with - eg the Phoenix lights or Israel dome UFO and explain what they were?

Phoenix Lights - Black Ops testing new craft.

The Israel Dome UFO - Aldebaran orb-probe.

Will add more information in one of the posts I'm preparing, concerning exoplotics and covert projects.


Were you both referring to the Dome of the Rock, Temple Mount UFO incident in Jerusalem in those posts (see Youtube video link below)?

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If so, I'm curious to know what type of information this Aldebaran orb-probe was gathering in relation to this sacred site.



I'd also love to know whether the photo below is authentic in nature. I'm not sure as to the veracity of the story behind it, but I read that a couple discovered it whilst developing their role of film, & they have no idea how it got there!

http://img809.imageshack.us/img809/755/ebetypeii.jpg

The reason I'm asking is because the entity in that picture was similar to the extraterrestrial described by 62 young students of Ariel school, located near Ruwa Zimbabwe. This UFO incident occured in 1994, & involved a UFO craft landing 100m away from the kids. The students said that a "small man" could be seen on the top of the UFO. The occupant of the craft was described as being about one meter (3 ft.) tall, with a slender neck, and very large eyes. A few of the older students related that they felt they had communicated with the craft's occupants. They were informed that we were destroying Earth by polluting it, and unless we changed our ways, we would face a failing planet. The school's headmaster, Colin Mackie, asked the children to make drawings of what they had seen. Mackie felt the children were telling the truth about their experience. The Pulitzer-winning psychiatrist, Professor John Mack, interviewed 12 of the children & also believed that they were telling the truth.

Who were these beings, & what was their purpose in regards to contacting these children in this way?

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[Dionysus]

E) Have they ever told you what's the deal with "LAM", the entitty suposedly contacted by crowley?

I'm not aware of any entity named LAM that was contacted by Crowley. What is the source for this?

[hedigoto]

E) Have they ever told you what's the deal with "LAM", the entitty suposedly contacted by crowley?

I'm not aware of any entity named LAM that was contacted by Crowley. What is the source for this?

Here is a link to an article with some basic general info about it:

http://www.boudillion.com/lam/lam.htm#Picture

[Dionysus]

E) Have they ever told you what's the deal with "LAM", the entitty suposedly contacted by crowley?

I'm not aware of any entity named LAM that was contacted by Crowley. What is the source for this?

Never mind, a quick Google search provided enough info to get the gist of it. I too would be interested in an answer to hedigoto's question

[Dionysus]

E) Have they ever told you what's the deal with "LAM", the entitty suposedly contacted by crowley?

I'm not aware of any entity named LAM that was contacted by Crowley. What is the source for this?

Here is a link to an article with some basic general info about it:

http://www.boudillion.com/lam/lam.htm#Picture

Thanks for responding. That was one of the articles I found. I would take some of the author's claims and conclusions with a grain of salt. But it concurs with other accounts as to the basic background of Lam and Crowley's part in the story.

[dan33]

Hi OnyxKnight. I would like to know if you have any information about the UMMO issue.
UMMO and Tall Whites are the same?

http://www.ummo-ciencias.org/Cartas%20en%20ingles/D21%20Eng%20Google.htm
http://www.ummo-ciencias.org/Cartas%20en%20ingles/D89%20Eng%20Google.htm

Excellent thread, thanks. (i've printed it all)

Thank you all.
Daniel.

[trenairio]

Hey Onyx.

Question: Do the planets truly have an effect on a person's mood and character as claimed by astrology? (referring to your info regarding the influence of the moon)

Thanks

[wynderer]

thank you for all the time & work you have put into this thread, Onyx

a question for you : the ETs with whom you are in contact -- am i correct in assuming that they are all of this 3D [physical]/4D [mind] world that our human bodies & minds inhabit? that they come from parts of the same Universe we see in the Hubble & similar photos?

i'm basing this question on the knowledge that we live in a multi-dimensional, perhaps infinitely dimensional, Universe

[Tenzin]

I will say though, that there is no doomsday scenario, especially 2012 doomsday scenarios. Even Nibiru doesn't exist anymore, so people don't have to fear anything about those topics. Its a nice thing you do with the people, and those kids. I try and do the same when I get the chance.

Thank you for this most exciting thread! :)

Here are my questions:


Could you share which ET race gave the confirmation that nothing will happen to Earth and our solar system in 2012? Looking forward to your input for this topic. I am speculating, that if one of the ET races did confirm with you about it, perhaps they are not aware of what the other ET races know who may have the 'technology' to see what is really going to happen then, such as those who did the crop circles?
You mentioned the Earth has been quarantined. Is this because of the AI being set in place against our will? If so, why is it doing what it is programmed to do?
What does it mean to be spiritual for an ET? They meditate as well?
War and conflict seem to be unavoidable even in space. How does the most peaceful ET race get by? Perhaps we can adopt their social system and learn from them?

[arpanet]

I know your question backlog is already quite high as many people ask many questions at the same time, but I would still like to add one question:

Have your ET contacts warned you about man-made global warming or man-made ecological catastrophes?

Background for the question:
I know that in the alternative community there's a belief that man-made global warming is caused by certain celestial bodies currently unknown to public. Is this also what the ETs say? I remember that at least in the 1990s and early 2000 the ET contactees in my country all said that the main message of the ETs was: take better care of your planet, there are some huge catastrophes ahead if you continue on the current path. This message seems contradictory to the now current trend that global warming is not mainly caused by us humans but celestial bodies.

(I hope everything is ok with Onyxknight as he has been away for quite a while now)

[cosmicharmony]

I think the big secret is that we are all ET existing within a body called human. Here we are met by mind blowing traits that sets us in a situation called our lifes here.

We come to learn aspects not gained quickly elsewhere and also have preset placement here where we effect a person, animal, enviroment to help them and move along the grand scheme of things.

I started with saying we are all ET but the fact is - human or our belief of ET is irrelevant for we are all the same! We have a spark inside us that is the real deal and not the form we house within.

This spark is no different to that of the biggest 99 eyed alien UFO visitor you could think of.

And these visitors know of this equality.

[Newlyn]

Thanks alot Onyx. This is so valueble.

Some questions:

1) What are their opinions on known researchers in the UFO field? I'm extra curious about Dolores Cannon, if they ever mention her, with all her tons and tons of information through past life hypnosis. Would also like to know your thoughts on Ashayana Deane.

2) How aware are they about karma, and what are their take on it? I mean specially the spieces that mix with other and maybe uses them for own purposes.

3) Will there be an ascension of this whole planet in the future? Some talk about a shift into 5:th dimension.

Sorry if you allready answerd the questions, or if they are stupid. I'm very tired, sitting here in the middle of night reading this interesting stuff. ;)

Blessings

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EDIT: You know what. This does not matter. Forget these questions. You have traveled through space and met people I can only fantasize about - and I do. It's a connection with something I feel is lost. A responsability that we could not handle. And I am sad, because I feel a personal responsability for this, and for this planet.

Of course my brain is filled with a hundred questions, but my heart has one. Are we as humans going out there? Are we going to see good times in the future where we can join our brothers, and really, our ancestors? You said somewhere (or was it you) that we as humans had the potential to be knights of truth in this world, and bring good as a unique creation. How great are our chanses acording to your sources?

I feel somehow that there is something here that is important in a deeper way, then just getting a lot of information in our brains. What would your sources say is the best way to go forth for us individuals?

I will always listen to what my heart speaks. That was the advice from my lightsister. And I feel there is a time now for the big turning point. Where things really starts to rolling.

Take care, and keep up the good work! :)

[Newlyn]

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[Etherios]

Where is Onyx has anyone contact him lately?

[vibrations]

He said to me he'll be out for a while, so I cannot give you more info. I was trying to reach him over Skype (account is in his Profile) and nothing. Let's be patient for now.

[Arpheus]

Maybe he drew too much attention and needs to lay low for now lol?Who knows ?If one assumes half the stuff he put on here is true ,you would think that someone in the higher ups would tell him to shut up or something?Thats just one of my many theories anyway.

[vibrations]

What I Know he had some personal issues to set up, so I doubt about PTB involvement.

[Newlyn]

Yea, it cannot be SO much attention. Compare it with Charles ;) Yet I find this info more rewarding.

I really hope everything is fine with him (her?). Such an extraordinary story. And ofcourse it takes a lot of courage to write about it like this. Especially when it did not go so well on the other forums he visited.

[Siberia9]

Well I hope he keeps it up, because this is has really opened the door for me. Everything I have tells me this is real, some of what he has stated is still bang'n thru my head, like a hammer hitting a bell. My God, just when you think you are in the deep end of the pool you find out there is an ocean in front of you. I think this is worth a re-read, there is alot of info here and Im sure we should take the time to chew on it all a bit. We just learned how it is that we came to be on this planet...man, I think I need a minute to process that.

[A New Hope Reborn]

if humanity survives the times of tyranny that are before us. Could you please expand on this?


While I was examining the surroundings in a circular manner, and before I completed the circle I noticed a luminous appearance on my left. It seemed like a "plasmic" form of life, something I don't think any contactee has yet seen so far. I fainted at the very sight of it. It was too much. When I woke up, three more were there, two on each side. One of them approached me, and touched my head with what seemed to look like a "tentacle", and that's how communication was initiated. After that touch I slightly calmed down because my heart was beating very fast like I had just ran a marathon. They look 'demonic' and 'ghostly', but they seem quite passive and non-hostile from my experience. Was this being red?, did it change shape? can you please give a more detailed description.

[Flasky]

Hmm, looking forward to read more. Thank you for your post.

:o

[phimonic]

wow - that's simply amazing! thank you very much!

[EsmaEverheart]

Thank you for this thread, OnyxKnight! I hope you keep posting more!

[McJigg]

Onyx,

Like many of the others, I want to thank you for your posts. Very much sat well with me, very little was rejected. As a young kid, I had an irrational fear of the night sky, particularity in winter when the skies where clearer. I had many dreams on the subject, bad ones that I didn't shake until my teens.
I've spent a lot of time trying to find fact in all the disinformation out there, and you pretty eloquently clear that up.

So thanks.

Question however. What's the situation around our planet concerning the factions? Are they encircling it like police surround a building because of the bad reptoids? Is there some sort of uneasy truce they hold out in space? 'Planet X' may no longer be a threat, but was that because of war? I guess I'm looking for an opinion on the current earth ET affairs from their point of view.

[Tuza]

It would be really wonderful if an opportunity arose for you to be interviewed by PC/PA OK.

with respect xo

[Tahi]

Hi OnyxKnight, do you have an opinion re post by Muzz today?

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?18622-Video-of-Alien-Body-Discovered-In-Buryatia-Russia-April-2011

thanx,

p.s the amount of info you have is frickn awesome :cool: and rings true for me. Keep it coming please

[Charlie Pecos]

Rocky_Shorz: but why would Bigfoot be on Mars, no Flora to take care of...

Hi Rocky, please have a look at these links to marsanomalyresearch.com. Joseph P Skipper has some pretty good evidence of lakes and old growth forests on mars. It would seem that NASA has been lying to us. Again. Surprise, surprise.

http://www.marsanomalyresearch.com/evidence-reports/2011/199/book-water-forests.htm

http://www.marsanomalyresearch.com/evidence-reports/2011/200/mars-biolife-samples.htm

To OnyxKnight: Great thread, thank you for your effort here.:)

[McJigg]

I thought of some more questions I don't think I've seen covered anywhere.

You mention their political systems, but what's life like for an average extra terrestrial? Do they have currency? What forms of entertainment do they have? What kind of jobs are available? Are they required to have jobs to support themselves?

Low priority stuff, but there has to be more to them then the faceless secret scientists in orbit many think of them to be.

[Omni]

Thanks for sharing Onyx. Log on Skype more often IMO. :)

They finally let me read some of your story. They have kept me from reading most of it on both forums I have seen it on. You wrote well with the first 2 big posts in this thread.

As for other forums, you got a mixed reaction on the other forum. Lots of people were liking it though too. Icke forum is a warzone for experiencers. I wouldn't call your thread on Icke a failed thread. Even though the debunk squad came in. At least you didn't get a guy posting you are insane for like 8 months straight every single day like I did in my thread. lol


What forms of entertainment do they have?

I can answer this one for one thing they have shown me they have. This is a text I wrote last year when I was speaking mainly to beings calling themselves Nordics:


The nordics have recently shown me what they can do with imagination(they say skimmed the surface). I now fully know they can create realities in your imagination that are just as real as you experience with your eyes and other senses normally. Evidence of this all one must do is simply look to dreams. ETs take this much further.
This is a bit about how I came to knowing they can do this:

I woke up once with a controlled consciousness, i was maybe 10% awake(very barely), i was on my back with my head hanging over the side of my bed, and a black entity was standing next to me. As I woke up this entity and the full view I had phased out like an opacity in photoshop and they let my eyes open(which were controlled and shut without any access to me while viewing the imagination construction). They later told me it was a full construction in my imagination. The entity itself if you were fully conscious was like a crappy paint drawing of a small alien. At around 10% I mainly just got its form, not details. I noticed it was somewhat poorly(or I guess in this case well done in doing so showing me it wasn't real) done only after my consciousness rose to fully awake. The feeling I had with this black alien figure standing over me was something along the lines of a very horrible grey induced consciousness. I am sure some of the worse abductions they give these consciousnesses to people. They are hard to explain. Some of it involved feeling very vulnerable and knowing an alien is about to do something to you(or could) in a feeling form, not conceptual. And you could do nothing to stop it.

They later told me they can use this technology for having amazing experiences. They(as I was writing this) just showed me an experience of you are right next to an asteroid and it smashes into a planet. The sound is amazing, and they alter senses and chakras to amplify the experience in a positive way. In writing the first occurrence the second was deleted from my memory, so unfortunately I don't have that one to give.

They say in a nutshell with the imagination technology they cut off the signals from the brain from going to your actual body, and make them go to a virtual reality body. They regulate your real eyes so you cannot open them(or even detect that you are not using your real eyes if desired in the engineering process). Your control over your real eyes is no longer connected, and this is now connecting your focus point in a virtual reality.

The applications for this are endless. You can be a ninja sneaking into a place with crouching tiger hidden dragon physics. You can be a warrior on a battlefield working as a team with other beings like in the movie 300. You can be a new born baby, and feel what that is like(learning experience possibly). You could basically engineer the matrix of reality like modern video games and give them traits that are seemingly non-existent in our universe. You could for example with your mind teleport yourself to wherever you want in the ninja simulation. Maybe give it a cooldown time so you can only use it so often. Advanced ET video games, must be amazingly fun. Although the nordics tell me they do not spend a lot of time in these recreational technologies. They say the primary function of them is to keep their race sharp physically, in times where sitting around in a ship is basically what you do(minus workout stuff they do, which they have told me nothing about, i am just speculating they have it).

They later told me one if the more fun video games for (some)younger people is being pitted against different vicious animals of the universe with something like a lightsaber. The reality simulation type games they have must be amazing. Taking masterpiece to a new level I'm sure...

Anyway that's just one thing that some of them have.

[Oak]

OnyxKnight, Your experiences and expertise in the subjects you've written about are extremely intriguing and impressive. A benefit to being empathic is that I am able to tell when effort and care has been put into a project, and I must say your writing has the feel of just that. You care very deeply about getting your message across, and if the replies on this forum alone are any indication; your feelings are being shared. I haven't quite finished reading everything, but what I have read has already been logged along some of the more important information I've gathered since I started my quest for knowledge. I thank you.

Clear paths, brother.

=UPDATE=

I have finished reading your posts and I have a question on how any of the ET's view religion; with an emphasis on pagan philosophy. I've often come across terminology in speeches and lectures (By Davide Icke and the like) that reminds me very much of the things I was taught to teach to others; primarily the "Higher Self" belief. I'm just curious if you or your contacts have ever thought on the subject.

[Enquiring1]

"These guys are very present in the Kuiper Belt nowadays, and a lot of astronomers have noticed them. Mind, what some have seen are not ships/craft. Its the actual living beings. The semi-alive carrier vessels are living organisms who redefine what the word "gigantic" means. They are really pissed off at the current rulership on Earth, and the whole 'Illuminati' and 'Reptoid' thing going on behind the scenes and under the Earth. They are also interested in the biological aspects of humans, but the 'Allied Worlds' have ruled out any face to face interaction, if opportunity arises. They might research humans who are caught outside the solar system doing illegal activities, like what is going on with Altair at the moment. If they catch them, they even have the permission to dissect them as frogs. Even though their nature is a bit scary, they are not hostile, from what I have gathered."

Hi Onyx,

Thank you for your post, it is wonderful. Your style of writing is artful.

Just a quick question in regards to the above, what is going on in Altair at the moment? Also are the Black project people out there getting taken out? (good job if they are)

[Calz]

What a magnificent thread!

OnyxKnight has made a remarkable contribution to this forum and my thanks go out to not only him but for all the many avalon members contributing here. Nary a peep of negativity which helps to keep the information flowing.

I hope some sort of book or online compilation can be brought to reality. Even if the desire for information to be made free is upheld there is still a matter of cost involved (ie energy exchange) and I am sure many many here would be willing to help in that regard.

I would.

My question would be regarding the "afterlife" or even "nde". Nde is too common and documented to dismiss. Not unanimous by any means but most people experiencing nde report similar things as well as those regressed to past lives.

I won't go back looking for the quotes (sorry) but I remember the et's not offering much regarding spirituality (or not being asked) yet coming forward with the "contract" souls make when entering the world and having said contract cut short via later abortions etc.

Val Valerian in the Matrix materials brought forth a lot of early solid information regarding the et/ufo situation (in many people's opinions). In his last writings he suggested that et's actually were in control of the "afterlife/inbetween life" condition as well as our living reality and inferred it wasn't such a "good idea" to go into the "tunnel of light" etc.

Can you offer any insight from your vast experience of information exchange to shed any light on that???

A million thanks due to you from avalon ... hope a book and avalon interview are forthcoming :)

[Rocky_Shorz]

can you give me an idea of the history at this location, who and when specifically?


http://youtu.be/DuqixqZqt2c


Gobekli Tepe ( Kurdish: Girê Navokê) is a hilltop sanctuary built on the highest point of an elongated mountain ridge about 15 km northeast of the Kurdish town of Urfa in northern Kurdistan. The site, currently undergoing excavation by German archaeologists,and was erected by hunter-gatherers in the 10th millennium BC (ca 11,500 years ago), before the advent of sedentism. . Göbekli Tepe is the oldest human-made place of worship yet discovered. Until excavations began, a complex on this scale was not thought possible for a community so ancient...

This place is so forbidden they made the country disappear... ;)

[Rocky_Shorz]

I don't want this lost in a monster thread...



does this explain why on full and new moons the human psych is so affected?

and when you say green skin, is that olive, or forest green?

Yes. You have paved away the platform for a successful mind control strategy if you can influence the fluids in the subjects' bodies. We are mainly fluids anyway, biologically. The gravity is strong enough that the pull has a sufficient 'tug effect' on us, particularly our fluids. Coupled with subliminal messages, and subconscious mental coordination techniques this physiological change on us seems to have an effect not only on our emotional aspect, but quite a profound, deeper, psychological aspect too. So yes, I have noticed disturbing changes in my own behavior on new and full moon. Sometimes I catch myself that way, and stop whatever I was doing, or try to alter my behavior to the way I conduct myself naturally, and I end up with a severe headache. The Moon-based A.I. is also connected with the reincarnation cycle and the 'Amnesia effect' on spirits.

The olive green skin is a biological derivative of mixing between the pure red and pure green skin complexions (in other words green, with a small genetic presence of the red human variant genetics). The original skin is light green.

We had hemocyanin properties in our blood, instead of large iron presence in it, we had copper, which coupled with other minerals we used to consume, made our skin appear light green. The red skin complexion variant comes from high presence of iron and zinc in the bloodstream. It seems only the high presence of iron has remained today (at least with the larger amount of the world population anyway).

When I talk genetic damage, I'm referring to our skin, due to radiation. The genetic manipulation involved other aspects of ourselves which became repressed. Those of the ETs today that come with brown, caucasian, or albino-like looks, is a result of genetic damage as well, and it only shows that they had been engaged in wars that have severely damaged their skin, mainly from radiation. Those who have red, blue or maybe "orange" skin tones from the ETs, are those who seem to have avoided conflicts and wars involving nuclear exchange, or weapons technology that features heavy radiation poisoning.

Its not a nice thought (it isn't for me either, I still don't like it), but they say this is what happened.


Hi Oxyknight,

I'm not too sure that where they are wrong is relevant. According to Kerry, Charles doesn't know who the bloodline is, Avalon claims he does / did. Only one can be correct. Right? If we talk about mathematical equations, apart from 2 + 2 = 4 and 2 x 2 = 4 all other sentances are distinct. There can only be one (unless the bloodlines are based on the number 2 - a very bad number, just ask any numerologist). So the question is which theory is right?

Best regards,

Steve

I'm also confused again. Since the blue eyed , blonde caucasian type beings are those who were the "pure hybrid", meaning that the "pure humans" look quite differently. So I have made a mistake in terms of comparison. I believe that 'Charles' said that they are not our of the public's eye, only that we may never find out their identity since they are not well-known people (correct me if im wrong). So they must look "human" as well, only with different features.

Regarding the "pure hybrids" - I can't see them as 50/50 (human/Reptoid) for the simple reason that they look entirely ... well ... human? Given I was told a description of the Reptoid culture that was bred here, before our creation, they seem to have had no involvement in the hybridization process. Or if they did, the genetic material was used on other aspects of ourselves, and not the appearance.

If I replace these 'Reptoids' with the Nibiruans, the picture becomes more clear - since both they and we, are similar in appearance, more than than we do with the Reptoids. Thing is, Nibiruans are also hybrids (humanoid/reptoid). So we are a mix of other hybrid races lol.

The "Pure Reptoids", or the species created here, before us, are not dead, but situated on a planet around Sol B. I have talked about this on other forums and have mentioned it before on this thread. I didn't know the specific reason of their creation, as I didn't ask (I had other questions for them at that time, which I considered to be of greater importance), but now I have a partial explanation - with the whole "Pure humans" vs. "Pure Reptoids" survival competition.

I'm not sure they left because of the humans though. The oxygen levels started to become a lot higher in (relatively) recent history on Earth, and they breathe carbon dioxide. They might have left since carbon dioxide started becoming scarce here.


I stopped looking at the 'Charles' material when I first read his statement that there are no longer any reptilians here on planet Earth. That lit-up my bullsh*t meter !!!

He was probably referring to the 'Reptoids' who were created here before humans, and left the planet later on.

Nobody said that other 'Reptoid' species/variants are not present on Earth at this time.


I first ran across evidence of the reptilian presence back in '76. Since then I've researched tens of thousands of hours of evidence regarding their presence; their continuous manipulation of civilization; their control of our current reality. (just ask me for some of that research)

Can we use the term 'Reptoid'? Its less confusing, as the word 'reptilian' is also referred to specific category of animal life on Earth. One large source of mockery from the general public is just that term, that we use.


What many people don't realize is, these Draconian Reptiles are hyper-dimensional (extra-dimensional) entities. To interface with them, one must 'invoke' their presence - through ritual. This practice has long been categorized as 'demon worship'. I tell you, it is as real as the type on this page you are reading. The evidence is overwhelming to this conclusion.

You might have confused certain things there. Their creators are with an ED nature. The Alpha Draconians, and the rest of the biologically derived sub-races of theirs are quite physical though.

Demon-worshiping is a way to keep the mind religiously-oriented, getting stuck on supernatural phenomena. Belief in magic comes to mind here too.


It's a game of chess. Rely intelligent people don't need a board. Lets say hypothetical Camelot was a chess board (in the beginning)
Then Bill was the king and Kerry was the Queen, Richard at the time was the loyal servant to the king, lets say a Bishop, add the mods who protected the king and the queen, so you can chuck in couple of Knights and castles. Then fill the rest of the board with members,(Pawns) and you have your Army.

The situation is more complicated than a chess game between totally opposed sides. Black and white analogy is getting old, and even the "shades of gray" is not any justice to the effect of explaining the particular set of events that happened, are going on, or will happen. Best explained using a bit of color, and something more complex than chessplay.


http://www.howardism.org/Philosophy/Questions/Troodon_dinosauroid.jpg

Going from dinosaur to reptoid involves a lot of missing links including the reptoid. The existence of all dino-to-retpoid fossils from around 65 million years ago to around 17,000 years ago would have to have been suppressed from the public, and not one archeologist whistle blower has come out and said that they have ever seen a reptoid fossil.

As other types of archeological evidence. Some have been destroyed, others have been transported on the inhabited planet around Sol B. Also, I hope people don't be surprised if they find dinosaur remains in upcoming Martian photos.


The theory is intriguing though with with timelines based on Atticus' information working in well with the pyramids being more ancient than thought and the existence of advanced technologies in Atlantis. Part 2 of a series called the Pyramid Code explains how the pyramids could generate energy and presents the idea that some may have been used as machines. This idea fits in with what Atticus said about the Reptoids using the pyramids to escape Earth.

They have been used to focus energy on a particular spot on earth, and the same focused in the opposite direction to direct energy on that side.


In relation to the reptoid and human hrybrids I'm not able to decipher how it fits in with information I have read related to blood types, eye color, and DNA evidence related to Neanderthals. Cro-Magnons which are modern humans basically showed up abruptly on the scene around 35,000 years ago. Not long after that, the Neandethals, who had been around a few hundred thousand years as a species suddenly died out. Recent DNA evidence has shown that non-Africans have a 1% to 4% Neanderthal genetic make up and Africans have no Neanderthal DNA:

http://www.amren.com/mtnews/archives/2010/05/07/neanderthal-small.gif

http://www.biblestudy.org/basicart/picture-comparing-cranium-of-a-modern-man-to-neanderthal-man.jpg

O-type humans are descendants of the experiments done in Ashaulon.

A-type and B-type are descendants of variants created in Lemuria and Atlantis.

AB-type was created in Hyperborea.


Below is a map of the Rh factor (Rhesus factor) distribution. Rh factor is associated with all primates except humans who are Rh negative. Rh negative is associated by some with Reptilian characteristics such as sometimes having an extra vertebra or vestigal reptilian tail. It's also associated with having more of a chance of being naturally intuitive or psychic. Some think that for Rh negative to exist, there had to have been a separate lineage that had it:

http://garyfelix.tripod.com/RHneg.JPG

The RH-factor was introduced from the Lyran humanoid groups.

I was born with with a tail and have an extra vertebrae, but far from being a "hybrid" of that type. The tail that sometimes appears with humans, it has to do with the tail that the lemur-like being had, from which all humanoid races (including ours) are derived from. It has nothing to do with the 'Reptoids'


Below is the distribution of type O blood type (O blood that is Rh neg is the universal donor type).:

http://www.naturalbuy.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/02/o-type-blood.gif

Related to eye color, blue is thought to have come from one individual and spread from there. It was either a mutation or introduced from outside (i.e aliens, possibly the Anunnaki). Some Sumerian and Egyptian statues have blue eyes.

It comes from the Pleiadian groups.


From the information that Kerry posted it sounds like Atticus is saying that the bloodlines of the 33 are pure human. I would think that would mean they don't have the Rh neg blood and the intuition or psychic abilities that go with it, which doesn't really make sense to me. Also aren't the Illuminati supposed to be the blue bloods that have reptilian DNA. So does that mean the next level down from the 33 has a lot of Reptilian DNA? Why is a group of 33 families that is so big on pure human DNA using people with more Reptilian DNA to suppress the general population. Why would alien species monitoring what is going on want a psychopathic group expanding out into the Universe?

Good questions all, but I want to comment on the last one here:

It seems that according to the chart, those with darker skin color have more 'Reptoid' genetics in them. And as so, it seems that they haven't been careful very much since a lot of people with darker skin color are present in Procyon as colonizers (human interstellar expansion).


Who is the progenitor race?

I'm not sure if you are referring to the progenitors? Also known as the Firstborn?

Its possible they are the same culture as the Wingmakers too.

They were/are probably the oldest civilization in the local group of galaxies, and the first humanoid one, as far as I've been told. They first encountered the 'lemur'-like being on a planet in a former star system today known only as the 'Helix Nebula'. It is presumed that it was native to this star system. Later they have transported the same being on other star systems, all of which who no longer exist today in that form, but as the 'Butterfly Nebula', 'Eye Nebula' and 'Ring Nebula' (the star system which produced the Lyran races). The last planet where some of this population has been seen was Mars. Whether it still exists in that form nobody knows.


It would sure help in making decisions, if we were told what is going on and what the true history is as we have been told that we would. If the plan is to starve us to weed out the weak, I'm not for it. I'm all for amnesty for the Illuminati and the 33, if they change to a plan with no genocide and killing. Otherwise I think the type of plans that Alex Collier has laid out from the Andromedans sound much better. This might be a good time for the Andromedans to explain our true history and explain what is going on through Alex Collier. It would be nice to have some information to make decisions from and to have some options.

The 33, as guardians and caretakers of this planet, seem to be doing a disastrous job at that, the only ones doing something to better this situation, whether its paradigm changes, exploration of alternative fields of science and energy, caring about nature etc., its us, the so called low-life hybrids (acc. to them). So in my opinion, they don't deserve a spot here. They can leave (they have the tech anyway). I'm questioning the sanity of those who left them in charge here.

This all, given the info 'Charles' has provided is correct, word to word. Which, I'm kind of skeptical myself.

I agree with what you said about the things mentioned and proposed by Alex Collier though.


PS: Anyone interested in overthrowing the Powers That Be is welcome to declare their intentions and join my face-book group; "Secret World Army To Overthrow The Status Quo" or you can just "like" or be a "fan" of it, either way we will send you a T shirt, training manual, weapon and orders... Please only apply if you are serious though, we have a very strict membership policy.

Erm ... how secret would your army be, if you have placed that on .... Facebook? From all the websites out there?


Do you think there aren't really drastic population reduction plans?

Have you noticed any earthquakes and tsunamis, to hit areas where there are dominantly white, blond, blue eyed people? All the recent natural disasters where mainly where there is non-caucasian population, with dominant numbers.

It was the darker skinned people in Haiti first, now they mess with the Asians.


When you refer to this stuff being disinformation are you saying that Atticus is accidentally or intentionally giving us disinformation about reptoids evolving before man and using the pyramids to escape Earth or are you saying that I am either intentionally or unintentionally presenting disinformation?

You are not spreading disinformation, that much I can say. We are a third intelligent civilization that has appeared on this planet. One was aquatic, and got transported someplace else, then the 'Reptoid' one, and then us.


The idea of the pyramids as some type of Stargate sounds pretty wild, but Atticus did bring that up, and the links that I posted have the best information I could find that shows speculation that reinforces some of what he said.

They can channel energy, not matter.


I'm looking forward to learning how the object on our moon is affecting the negative genes we have in us...

why hasn't it been shut off if benevolent ETs feel it is hurting us?

Because of the risk of:

- Direct exposure

- Direct intervention

- Direct genetic manipulation.

The third has been banned for the last 5000+ years, on the territory of this planet. There is a mechanism that unlocks new genetic markers, every few generations. Also, the awareness on social issues has raised sufficiently high enough that doesn't require as much "push" as it used to.

Regarding genetic repairment, google 'savants' or 'savant humans'.

[Hughe]

@ Rocky_Shorz
Thanks a lot.

How the hell Alien Ramone's post and Onyx's answer were gone on the thread?
I saw Alien Ramone's post for sure when it was up. I wonder someone is tampering this thread or not.

This one had my day.

Around 19.000 BC, En-Lil Niburuans, and some sub-servient Thuban races in the absence of the En-Ki Niburuan faction turn this planet into a planetary size 'zoo show', inviting many ET civilizations to sight-see the ongoings here in that particular time. These ET races were also allowed to explore and research whatever they found pleasing.

[Alien Ramone]

@Hughe

The comment that Rocky_Shorz posted is from the monster thread entitled "View of human family tree material given by charles to bill back in 2010".

I think Rocky is adding it here also, since it ties in with the other information that OnyxKnight is presenting.

[Rocky_Shorz]

anyone hear from OnyxKnight lately?

[observer]

I don't want this lost in a monster thread... [snip]

Since we are consolidating threads here, Rocky, I felt it my obligation to reply to what Onyx had to say with regard to my comments in that other thread.


.... [snip]

I stopped looking at the 'Charles' material when I first read his statement that there are no longer any reptilians here on planet Earth. That lit-up my bullsh*t meter !!!

[snip] Onyx's reply irrelevant to the comment.


I first ran across evidence of the reptilian presence back in '76. Since then I've researched tens of thousands of hours of evidence regarding their presence; their continuous manipulation of civilization; their control of our current reality. (just ask me for some of that research) [emphasis added by observer]

[snip] Onyx's reply irrelevant to the comment.


What many people don't realize is, these Draconian Reptiles are hyper-dimensional (extra-dimensional) entities. To interface with them, one must 'invoke' their presence - through ritual. This practice has long been categorized as 'demon worship'. I tell you, it is as real as the type on this page you are reading. The evidence is overwhelming to this conclusion.

[Onyx's reply]:

You might have confused certain things there. Their creators are with an ED nature. The Alpha Draconians, and the rest of the biologically derived sub-races of theirs are quite physical though.

Demon-worshiping is a way to keep the mind religiously-oriented, getting stuck on supernatural phenomena. Belief in magic comes to mind here too.

I have confused nothing, Onyx. Everything I have said is taken from the evidential trail.

The evidence will show that all of the "quite physical" reptile aliens (reptoid ) are in varying degrees, biological automatons (robots), or, otherwise, they are other reptilian species in contractual agreements with, and all working for the hyper-dimensional (extra-dimensional) Draconian Reptiles.

The term 'demon worship' is a simple matter of semantics. One must loose their mind control programing in order to gain an understanding of how the Draconian Reptiles (reptoids [if you must]) have created; directed the evolution of civilization; and, controled this particular reality, since Man first appeared on the planet.

These particular reptiles (reptoids [if you must]) [I]are hyper-dimensional (extra-dimensional) entities. They are the same entities the elite of this planet 'conjure-up' in their 'demonic' ceremonies. I use the term 'demonic' only so the hypnotized masses can understand what I'm referring to.

For a crash course on the Draconian Reptiles (reptoids [if you must]), I would strongly suggest reading Chapter 2 of David Icke's book, 'The Biggest Secret'. I include a free link to Chapter 2, 'Don't Mention the Reptiles', here:

http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/biggestsecret/biggestsecretbook/biggestsecret02.htm

For those of you who want a greater - in depth - understanding of this subject, I would strongly suggest reading the entire book. You can find it free online, here:

http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/biggestsecret/biggestsecretbook/biggestsecret.htm#contents

[OnyxKnight]

Mars Base?

Mars is currently being terraformed. It has been subject to terraforming since the late 80s, although with little success, because the human residents there have advanced craft and military tech at their disposal, but they suck at terraforming (not enough scientists well educated on that field). They seem to stick to scientists bred on the inside, and not rely on research and expertise on scientists in the public domain.

Colonization of the Moon and Mars was/is part of what we know as Alternative 3. Our interference on the Moon has pissed off some alien groups who really don't like human expansion (that's not in line with their terms and conditions), and so we have halted our Moon operations. Although it seems that as new head of the Moon base of operations has been placed, new Moon missions are granted. The Russians are going to be the first to jump in the occasion (or so I've heard).

Mars is one of the two planets in our solar system, other than the Earth, that have native, complex life (the other being Jupiter's moon Europa). Other than various microbial life forms, most of which are lithovores (they feed on minerals in the underground), there are a few races of creatures who roam the underground as well, who have small extremities with talons, near their head, with whom they dig their way around. They rarely go out on the surface, unless attracted to some sort of vibrations.

Of course, there is the intelligent life presence there too, but more on that a bit a later.

The Earth-Mars wormhole connection is artificial, but not man-made (not human-made I mean). The connection existed for a very long time now, and by a very random set of circumstances, that had nothing to do, goal-wise, with establishing an active wormhole connection between the Earth and Mars that we had gained access to it. I haven't asked them for more information on this, as I quickly switched off to the question of whether there was any life there, but according to my own research, I believe the "gates" were opened somewhere in the early 50s, with the Montauk Project, although some elements of the technology needed for that were present with the Philadelphia Experiment as well. I'm not privy as to what exactly happened that was connected with Mars, but it took a decade for the results of the experiments and the research to come up with a blueprint for technology that can be coupled with the reverse-engineered technology of crashed crafts, in order to travel to Mars successfully. The research was funded by the Germans (most were nazi elements), the French, the English, and Americans (as hosts of the "Jumpspot"). The people involved were funded privately by corporations present at that time in these countries, that were promised some influence and share of elements/resources that could potentially be found on Mars.

The first human colonies were mostly nazi people, because the largest funding was introduced by them, and they also aided a lot in the process, by introducing working models of technology, with their contact with an alien civilization of the Aldebaran system. The 'Bell Project' has its missing link - all of the nazi scientists working on it, got their leads, advices, tips and coordination from their communication with this alien race. The first 'send-off' occurred in 1962, and like I said, it featured mostly the nazis, with a few American elements. The total population sent was around 200 individuals. I have been told that this colony has been destroyed in 1981 by a civilization who (today) belongs to the Orion Group, and were present in this star system at that particular time. I'm not told there were any survivors (the colony featured men, women and kids). After a meet-up in 1983, in Dulce, by representatives of this particular civilization of the Orion Group, and the human elements associated with the Martian colonization project, a contract has been set in place, which dictates a long list of conditions the humans must meet in order for them to gain and maintain the 'green light' in terms of having the permission to colonize Mars. The next 'send-offs' occur in 1986 and 1988, and this time they feature both ordinary German settlers, French people, and people from the UK. Over 3000 people were dispatched in the first 'opening' and around 5000 the second. They were sent in an existing underground base (a city would be more accurate), which was there since before the dinosaurs came to be here on Earth. This was one of the conditions relayed by the Orion civilization - that no new, human-built bases will exist there, ever. This place is also used by the Orion Group as well. The Mars Underground city is also connected (via a wormhole) with a planet in the Sirius B system, where there are also a few human elements present at this time.

So far, the Orion Group, to my understanding, has a "lease" to use Mars for about a few more hundred years, before their "deadline of use" is reached. Apparently, they are only present there because some kind of contract/deal has been made with other civilizations who were present on Mars long time ago (civilizations from Amufar [present day Ring Nebula in Lyra], cultures from Arcturus, Sirius and the Pleiades), and after that they cannot use the city anymore. The other cultures don't like the Mars expansion of humans, because their activity there is guided, and molded, by the present race. Partially also because with the way they have got to Mars, was by "cheating" the 'Quarantine system' set in place around our planet. We were not due to colonize Mars until some time near the middle of the 21st century, or even later.

The reason 'Cydonia' was chosen at first was because its a remnant of an ancient seabed, and there are literally TONS of fossils there of the various forms of life that once inhabited Mars, when it was more Earth-like. There are also the (back then) undersea domed structures, which are now just surface constructions (they seem that way to us), and various monuments in the area. Terraforming wouldn't have been needed, if the humans, including the other alien civilizations knew how to activate the dormant colossal mechanism around the core of Mars (which was put there by an even older civilization that I have no information on, but its possibly the 'Progenitors'), which can not only activate the core, heat it up, and get it moving, but also release nano-machines that can effectively repair the atmosphere and 'reconstruct' some of the extinct life on Mars (crucial life forms that form the basic niches and elementary to the eco-system that was back then). The mechanism also generates an artificial, but very powerful magnetic field. I am told a similar machine is buried deep, deep underground in our own planet as well, just in case something happens with the planet, that we have the means to kick-start livable conditions once again. But whoever put these mechanisms in Earth, Mars and several other planets in our Solar system didn't really leave a comprehensible (to us and the other alien cultures) manual on how to work these mechanisms, or how to even activate them. When I asked how ancient these mechanisms were (because I wanted to know in terms of ancient history, which civilization could be responsible for them), they said that the mechanisms orbited the Sun, while it was part of a triple star system, and before the Earth and Mars were created. Apparently, these mechanisms also played a part in the creation of these two planets.

Mars is a lot more Earth-like, even today, then what is presented. Its not that red, the rocks are a lore more grayer, and the sky is a lot more clear and bright. Oh, by the way, you can spot Sol B from Mars, with telescopes the type we use here on Earth, of course, if the weather is okay. Its only observable from the southern hemisphere though. I also know other ways the eco-system on Mars can be restored, especially raising oxygen levels there with really simple means, but will refrain from details because I don't want to make things easy for the colonies there. If there is a future Mars mission with aims at colonizing it I might give away details (if I'm convinced the colonizers have a beneficial agenda).

I had some details regarding Martian history in the time when alien civilizations were present there, but the friend who had some notes with a quite a few details on that didn't show up to give them to me, and he is not responding to my phone calls and numerous emails. If I get in touch with him, I will quote this post and add those bits of information too. Thank you for your patience Bill, and the rest of you guys.

[Hughe]

@ OnyxKnight

The number infinite times thanks.

Is it just me or others too have this bone-chilling experience? :shocked:
Cause I got to ask it because your through description of the behind stories fill up the missing pieces of my big mosaic somehow.

It seems all the events begin to manifest by themselves like a living entity suddenly.

Best regards,

PS: EMVs - Designers of the Solar System - James Horak talks about how the beings in ancient time literally construct planets like Earth to house all the life forms using their advanced technologies.

[vibrations]

Thank you from the heart Onyx. All this data confirme the bigger picture in this puzzle of secret activities. The info I got was just vage, but thanks to your details everything fits together.
And very welcome back dude.

[observer]

.... [snip]
Tarraforming wouldn't have been needed, if the humans, including the other alien civilizations knew how to activate the dormant colossal mechanism around the core of Mars (which was put there by an even older civilization that I have no information on, but its possibly the 'Progenitors'), which can not only activate the core, heat it up, and get it moving, but also release nano-machines that can effectively repair the atmosphere and 'reconstruct' some of the extinct life on Mars (crucial life forms that form the basic niches and elementary to the eco-system that was back then). The mechanism also generates an artificial, but very powerful magnetic field. I am told a similar machine is buried deep, deep underground in our own planet as well, just in case something happens with the planet, that we have the means to kick-start livable conditions once again. But whoever put these mechanisms in Earth, Mars and several other planets in our Solar system didn't really leave a comprehensible (to us and the other alien cultures) manual on how to work these mechanisms, or how to even activate them. When I asked how ancient these mechanisms were (because I wanted to know in terms of ancient history, which civilization could be responsible for them), they said that the mechanisms orbited the Sun, while it was part of a triple star system, and before the Earth and Mars were created. Apparently, these mechanisms also played a part in the creation of these two planets.... [snip]

I used to subscribe to a newsletter, 'Cosmic Awareness Communications'. It still is a group of 'channelers' from the Olympia, Washington area. Back in the mid '70s and early '80's, there were a long series of channelings that included information on this 'alleged' machine (or 'computer' [in Cosmic Awareness terms]) at the center of the earth.

Needless to say, I've long since given-up on the validity of 'channeled' material. Any information coming through the process of mental telepathy is questionable - at the very least.

My question, Onyx, is the source of all this information coming through to you in the form of mental telepathy?

You say that some other individual has notes that you need access to in order to give more complete detail. Are these notes the result of a 'channeling' session?

You even make reference to the mental telepathic aspect in your opening post, here:


.... [snip]

"We came to a conclusion that language is a construct, like most things with humanity. Translation gave birth to a new topic, regarding universal communication tool. That's where we got into telepathy. And they explained to me that telepathy is the nearest to perfection example of a universal language. And no need for translators if one has telepathy. I didn't think it exists until they confirmed that by talking inside my head.".... [snip]

I would also like to know if there is any independent third party that has witnessed your 'encounters' with these extraterrestrials?

Thank you for your time and patience....

[vibrations]

Dear observer

I myself have a quite large experience on a receiving telepathic info from abroad. In your shoes I would not judge the think you do not know and not know the mechanisms which are involved to be able to receive high percentage of accuracy in a telepathic communication. It is very true that a lot of so called channeling are very polluted with a proper mind traps of the receiver, but doing it right is the most complete and rich information you can imagine. And to be able to receive it in a certain level of quality it can take a lot of time (maybe year or two of continuous receiving), but not because of the telepathy itself but because of our not enough evolved brain mechanisms. So as all the rest, everything is relative, no categorical denial is needed.

[OnyxKnight]

I used to subscribe to a newsletter, 'Cosmic Awareness Communications'. It still is a group of 'channelers' from the Olympia, Washington area. Back in the mid '70s and early '80's, there were a long series of channelings that included information on this 'alleged' machine (or 'computer' [in Cosmic Awareness terms]) at the center of the earth.

Needless to say, I've long since given-up on the validity of 'channeled' material. Any information coming through the process of mental telepathy is questionable - at the very least.

My question, Onyx, is the source of all this information coming through to you in the form of mental telepathy?

You say that some other individual has notes that you need access to in order to give more complete detail. Are these notes the result of a 'channeling' session?

You even make reference to the mental telepathic aspect in your opening post, here:

I'm not a fan of channeled material, because it varies as almost as personal accounts vary among people. But I don't discount all of it as BS though. Especially the material that goes along with what I have been told. And I believe with the last sentence I answered your question - I rarely get telepathic communication, and when I do its usually coordination and guidance regarding travel. Nothing to do with information like this. Although I have a lot of information that I have written down on notes that I have received as a telepathic communication from them. But the information is very strange, lacks correct grammar, context, and some words come off as scrambled. So I personally insisted on face-to-face interaction, so things could go more easier for both parties.

Most of the information is told to me by them, another portion of it is something I have personally read and observed in their databanks. A small part is some personal research that they encourage I do it from time to time, in order for not having every bit of information served to me on a plate.

Regarding the notes, all of the notes, the drawings and other data belong to me and are made by me, based on reading, hearing, and observations. For some safety measures (which obviously don't work), I thought that small parts of the notes would be wise to be sent to trusted people, to be taken care of and kept safe. This individual is one of them. I'm not sure what's going on, but I would trust him with my life.


I would also like to know if there is any independent third party that has witnessed your 'encounters' with these extraterrestrials?

Thank you for your time and patience....

My best friend, for well over 14 years, witnessed me going away with Jarek last year. He thinks he is one of my college assistants. The looks of Jarek (as disguised) can be confirmed by him if necessary (though I'm not sure what good that would do). But for the other encounters, no, there is nobody.

[tkh123186]

Mars Base?

Mars is currently being terraformed. It has been subject to terraforming since the late 80s, although with little success, because the human residents there have advanced craft and military tech at their disposal, but they suck at terraforming (not enough scientists well educated on that field). They seem to stick to scientists bred on the inside, and not rely on research and expertise on scientists in the public domain.

Colonization of the Moon and Mars was/is part of what we know as Alternative 3. Our interference on the Moon has pissed off some alien groups who really don't like human expansion (that's not in line with their terms and conditions), and so we have halted our Moon operations. Although it seems that as new head of the Moon base of operations has been placed, new Moon missions are granted. The Russians are going to be the first to jump in the occasion (or so I've heard).

Mars is one of the two planets in our solar system, other than the Earth, that have native, complex life (the other being Jupiter's moon Europa). Other than various microbial life forms, most of which are lithovores (they feed on minerals in the underground), there are a few races of creatures who roam the underground as well, who have small extremities with talons, near their head, with whom they dig their way around. They rarely go out on the surface, unless attracted to some sort of vibrations.

Of course, there is the intelligent life presence there too, but more on that a bit a later.

The Earth-Mars wormhole connection is artificial, but not man-made (not human-made I mean). The connection existed for a very long time now, and by a very random set of circumstances, that had nothing to do, goal-wise, with establishing an active wormhole connection between the Earth and Mars that we had gained access to it. I haven't asked them for more information on this, as I quickly switched off to the question of whether there was any life there, but according to my own research, I believe the "gates" were opened somewhere in the early 50s, with the Montauk Project, although some elements of the technology needed for that were present with the Philadelphia Experiment as well. I'm not privy as to what exactly happened that was connected with Mars, but it took a decade for the results of the experiments and the research to come up with a blueprint for technology that can be coupled with the reverse-engineered technology of crashed crafts, in order to travel to Mars successfully. The research was funded by the Germans (most were nazi elements), the French, the English, and Americans (as hosts of the "Jumpspot"). The people involved were funded privately by corporations present at that time in these countries, that were promised some influence and share of elements/resources that could potentially be found on Mars.

The first human colonies were mostly nazi people, because the largest funding was introduced by them, and they also aided a lot in the process, by introducing working models of technology, with their contact with an alien civilization of the Aldebaran system. The 'Bell Project' has its missing link - all of the nazi scientists working on it, got their leads, advices, tips and coordination from their communication with this alien race. The first 'send-off' occurred in 1962, and like I said, it featured mostly the nazis, with a few American elements. The total population sent was around 200 individuals. I have been told that this colony has been destroyed in 1981 by a civilization who (today) belongs to the Orion Group, and were present in this star system at that particular time. I'm not told there were any survivors (the colony featured men, women and kids). After a meet-up in 1983, in Dulce, by representatives of this particular civilization of the Orion Group, and the human elements associated with the Martian colonization project, a contract has been set in place, which dictates a long list of conditions the humans must meet in order for them to gain and maintain the 'green light' in terms of having the permission to colonize Mars. The next 'send-offs' occur in 1986 and 1988, and this time they feature both ordinary German settlers, French people, and people from the UK. Over 3000 people were dispatched in the first 'opening' and around 5000 the second. They were sent in an existing underground base (a city would be more accurate), which was there since before the dinosaurs came to be here on Earth. This was one of the conditions relayed by the Orion civilization - that no new, human-built bases will exist there, ever. This place is also used by the Orion Group as well. The Mars Underground city is also connected (via a wormhole) with a planet in the Sirius B system, where there are also a few human elements present at this time.

So far, the Orion Group, to my understanding, has a "lease" to use Mars for about a few more hundred years, before their "deadline of use" is reached. Apparently, they are only present there because some kind of contract/deal has been made with other civilizations who were present on Mars long time ago (civilizations from Amufar [present day Ring Nebula in Lyra], cultures from Arcturus, Sirius and the Pleiades), and after that they cannot use the city anymore. The other cultures don't like the Mars expansion of humans, because their activity there is guided, and molded, by the present race. Partially also because with the way they have got to Mars, was by "cheating" the 'Quarantine system' set in place around our planet. We were not due to colonize Mars until some time near the middle of the 21st century, or even later.

The reason 'Cydonia' was chosen at first was because its a remnant of an ancient seabed, and there are literally TONS of fossils there of the various forms of life that once inhabited Mars, when it was more Earth-like. There are also the (back then) undersea domed structures, which are now just surface constructions (they seem that way to us), and various monuments in the area. Terraforming wouldn't have been needed, if the humans, including the other alien civilizations knew how to activate the dormant colossal mechanism around the core of Mars (which was put there by an even older civilization that I have no information on, but its possibly the 'Progenitors'), which can not only activate the core, heat it up, and get it moving, but also release nano-machines that can effectively repair the atmosphere and 'reconstruct' some of the extinct life on Mars (crucial life forms that form the basic niches and elementary to the eco-system that was back then). The mechanism also generates an artificial, but very powerful magnetic field. I am told a similar machine is buried deep, deep underground in our own planet as well, just in case something happens with the planet, that we have the means to kick-start livable conditions once again. But whoever put these mechanisms in Earth, Mars and several other planets in our Solar system didn't really leave a comprehensible (to us and the other alien cultures) manual on how to work these mechanisms, or how to even activate them. When I asked how ancient these mechanisms were (because I wanted to know in terms of ancient history, which civilization could be responsible for them), they said that the mechanisms orbited the Sun, while it was part of a triple star system, and before the Earth and Mars were created. Apparently, these mechanisms also played a part in the creation of these two planets.

Mars is a lot more Earth-like, even today, then what is presented. Its not that red, the rocks are a lore more grayer, and the sky is a lot more clear and bright. Oh, by the way, you can spot Sol B from Mars, with telescopes the type we use here on Earth, of course, if the weather is okay. Its only observable from the southern hemisphere though. I also know other ways the eco-system on Mars can be restored, especially raising oxygen levels there with really simple means, but will refrain from details because I don't want to make things easy for the colonies there. If there is a future Mars mission with aims at colonizing it I might give away details (if I'm convinced the colonizers have a beneficial agenda).

I had some details regarding Martian history in the time when alien civilizations were present there, but the friend who had some notes with a quite a few details on that didn't show up to give them to me, and he is not responding to my phone calls and numerous emails. If I get in touch with him, I will quote this post and add those bits of information too. Thank you for your patience Bill, and the rest of you guys.

Thank you for information Onyx. I must say your posts are my favorite to read in all of avalon! I can't explain why but my inner self tells me you are a 100% true contactee; we appreciate you sharing your thoughts and experiences with us more then you will ever know. Namaste my friend!

[OnyxKnight]

Abductions?

Well, what exactly or more specifically interests you in the abduction phenomena?

I think we both (and I'd guess the rest as well) would agree that they are pretty much real, for the most part (some can be attributed to more 'rational explanations' but we don't need to dwell on that at this moment). Some people get abducted and are not returned back, which has happened quite often during the previous centuries, in comparison with present-day. About 70% (maybe more) of the abduction cases can be attributed to Black Ops/MK Ultra experiments, and not exclusively on extraterrestrials, but extraterrestrial do play a part in these Black Ops too, quite often. The triangular, the arrow-shaped, and the 'V' shaped craft are products of the secret operations done in research bases around the world, and the craft designs are based on the 'Orionite model', although quite far-back in terms of technological advancement, if compared with the real Orion Group crafts.

I don't like talking about certain aspects of the abduction phenomena, because I'm disgusted, appalled and disturbed with what's going on behind the scenes of everyday life. But I have to. Many of the people who are abducted are experimented on in the most disgusting and painful way one can imagine. Some have even been used for food and nutrition to some ET races. Abductees are usually subject to heavy dose of radiation while being inspected, and a lot of the time, people think that radiation comes from the exposure to the craft (not always the case, in fact very small percentage is acquired that way). The memory of the abduction experience has been repressed or erased (its never 100% successful, I ensure you), so people have a close encounter with a craft, and they see the craft leaving, and they think they had a CE2 or some of the seven sub-types of it, when in fact they very well may have had a CE3.

Abductees are also subject to heavy examination, involving surgery and and genetic experimentation. There are cases where the abductees are cloned and the clones are instead used as food, nutrition, or even a source for human research, examination, and dissection. Abductees can be used in hybridization programs involving several ET races, each respective race having different goals with this program. One of the hybridization programs involving repopulation of this planet with a hybrid race has been terminated on June 14th 2003, as an intervention of several other alien races who had a host-seat for the 'maintenance program' (that's how it was referred to by them), who had a neutral stance with our situation until they uncovered what was going on at the start of the summer in 2003. Today they are part of the supportive group, but I don't know who exactly they are. One is still playing an observer role in USA, and the ongoing events there, that's all I know. The rest of the hybridization programs have not been terminated since the hybrids have been deployed to other planets of interest, and are not present on Earth, so they don't seem to be violating any regulations or "laws" set in place by the larger groups of more advanced civilizations in this local corner of the galaxy.

I am told one of the hybridization programs are carried out by several factions of the 'Gray' variants, mainly the shorter-sized 'Grays', and the 'Tall Grays', who are actually more white, than gray. The shorter sized 'Gray' race originates from a Hyadean colony that was established on the binary star system of Zeta Reticuli, before the disaster involving chronotech occurred there. This star system is currently not populated with any intelligent life, and most ET races only observe things there from a distance, since it is dangerous to come anywhere near it, because of the temporal anomalies that twist space and time into very chaotic patterns, making it impossible to leave the system once in. They have managed to get out of there by using space-time warping technology, that got them transported to our solar system in 1799. Because of the disaster that happened there, their long-lived bodies now only last a few decades, so they have resorted to cloning themselves, but extensive cloning and radiation degradation had their organs atrophied, and now they have started this hybridization program in order to not only stabilize their genetic structure, but also the temporal side effects their bodies are subject to as well. I think this is why many abductees and contactees report seeing the 'Grays', or at least some variants of them, "phase in and out" of reality, or our space-time continuum. The reason they were introduced in the Orion Group was because they had the opportunity to experiment with raw biological material with stable temporal status on all those planets that are incorporated into their ownership, including the, so far, unresolved status of our planet, although under the 'status' section of our planet, according to the 'Allied Worlds' group databanks, we are under 'quarantine' status, as the 'threshold point' before we move to a status of a 'protectorate' world. In 'quarantine', we do not belong to any alien race exclusively.

Back to abductions - the 'Tall Grays' do experiments on "raw consciousness", or what we would deem to be "souls". They have developed a technology that can torture the "soul", and test the extreme of emotional energy generated by it in special experimental conditions. They can also fracture the spirit into multiple pieces with the same technology. I don't know how this is possible, but apparently this is what is going on, according to the aliens I had contacted. And this is one of the things that they are mostly pissed off about, more than anything else. They found out about this a few years ago, and since then they don't warn 'Tall Grey' crafts coming into this star system, they simply destroy them on sight. Usually before they do that they search every inch of their craft and motherships for humans or souls taken from here, before they fire. A lot of small kids have been saved this way (and this is what I forgot to mention, that small kids are usually the target of 'Tall Gray' abductions). Most have been taken to Procyon, some small number in the Pleiades.

There are also experiments involving sexuality during these abductions, where either the subject is experimented on individually, and their sexuality, and reproductive organs are "messed with", or they can be part of a multiple abduction scenario, where several humans have been abducted, with gender difference, and they are examined, then instructed, or forced, to engage in sexual activities with either the opposite, or the same gender (This is in no way me implying that sexual phenomena such as bisexuality and homosexuality are result of experiments carried out on these abductions, okay?). Sometimes the abducted humans experience sexual activity with the extraterrestrials themselves. The sex may not involve hybrid offspring, but quite for the most part, just sexual intercourse.

Implants are not always a negative thing. Most are monitoring devices who analyze the level of protein intake, heart and respiratory status 24/7, levels of fat and cholesterol in the body, etc., basically metabolism stuff, and they keep an eye on what foods the subject intakes. Many have reported to acquiring a different taste in food after an abduction or contact case, very suddenly. I myself have become more vegetarian oriented with my food since I was a teenager, and although I do consume meat occasionally, and its usually fish, I do lower the percentage every year. I think some of the races instead of lecturing us on what is "good food" they just tweak our taste and the area of he brain that is engraved in to, and just set the standards themselves. It may have to do with producing a healthier offspring, with a slightly better genetic set. Others put implants in order to release alien chromosomes who "hide" in the "Junk DNA" part of our bodies' genetic soup, and activate when a certain generation of humans in that family tree passes on. Some others put implants in humans so in order for them to be tracked better, or in some cases, the implants contain pathogens that can kill the subject if the specific alien race is not satisfied with the results, or if the subject becomes "unstable". I've been told by my contacts, that these races look upon this as, a "safety measure". A matter of "precaution".

The abductions in some more rare cases, that are not publicly entertained a lot, but deserve attention, is when a switch in bodies occurs, of the human subject and the extraterrestrial. In other words, a switch in consciousness. I have numerous people messaging me on other forums and social networks, implying that this may not be as rare as I used to think, describing friends, family members, or acquaintances, that have started to "act in weird, strange", and in many cases, quite "disturbing ways", in periodical events. Saying things that would disturb them, or scare them, or even do things that are morbid and disturbing. Many times these people would say something that only this one person knows it happened, or did, and end the disturbing experience with a very morbid smile. Many of those people who we have exchanged messages have said that their mother, a friend, or somebody they knew, would all of the sudden, "advise them", not to entertain conspiracy theories involving UFO and ET phenomena, or to stay away from certain subjects/topics. Sometimes threats are displayed, something along the lines of "We are watching you _____, and we know what you are doing. If you love your friends and close ones, you will stop your activity with _________."

I think this may shed some light on the whole demonic possession thing, which I believe in many cases is quite real. It may have its roots in extraterrestrial mind control technology, or this, more sophisticated, more advanced, "soul" swap technology. Its not any wonder we had a movie like "Avatar" come out recently. There is much truth behind the essential concepts of the movie, one being this ET tech, the other is the take over of the Altair system, and some others too.

Its also possible that with this technology, some people who have experienced ET contact, or an abduction case, may compare their experience in this 'alien body', as a fragment of a memory of a past life. Which adds a bit of complexity to the whole past life phenomena in turn, because it becomes harder to distinguish what are real past life memories, and who may be a result of this "soul swap" tech.

Bill, and the rest, if you have more questions concerning the abduction phenomena, let me know :).


Isn't 3x FTL still pretty slow for most interstellar travel? (Wormhole/stargate travel - which is almost instant, yes? - must surely be infinitely more efficient)

Yes Bill, but here's the thing: You would definitely have a point there if we life was very scarce throughout the galaxy, and we were the only intelligent life in a radius of 2000 light years from the homeworld of this particular alien race in question. It would be very inefficient for aliens to bother inventing FTL travel, even one that is several times faster than light, to reach civilizations if they are that far away. The thing is, life seems to be pretty common out there, and FTL travel is efficient on small distances, which is what they mostly use these crafts for, as they have colonies on nearby star systems, not more than a several light years away. Wormholes are used for long-distance travels, yes. And there is a tendency for usage of naturally occurring wormholes (small, larger, and intergalactic ones), rather than artificial, which may be another reason why FTL travel exists too. As natural, stable wormholes are not very common throughout the entire galaxy. Our solar system is one of the few that has two wormholes, one intergalactic and one that connects with the other side of the Milky Way. FTL travel is mostly used on the area of space where there is absence of naturally occurring wormholes. I hope this clears things up?


Future human time travelers?

Yes. They come from another timeline. In this timeline the 'Allied Worlds' does not exist as a unified body of many ET civilizations, and certain catastrophes do occur on Earth, that put the future of the human race n question. One of the Roswell crashes (I have been told there were several crashes in the same year, around the same time, from which two have been near Roswell, New Mexico), involved future humans. People who frown on this theory is because there are detailed reports involving the biology of the entities recovered in the crash. Little do people realize and connect the dots, is that as time goes by, as I have said before, more and more ET genes become unlocked and incorporated in our own genetic material, and these humans come from a distant future, where quite a few of the dormant ET genes have been activated. So, when the bodies were recovered, upon examination, they are given the label EBE (extraterrestrial biological entity). They are probably even more 'human' than we are now. Again, it depends on what we consider to be human in the first place. Our current form, or the whole genetic scope of us, in full activation. The other Roswell crash involved actual ETs, short beings, from Proxima Centauri. Another one, in Aztec, involved a tiny cyborg race from the Orion constellation (not affiliated with the Orion Group). And another in Arizona that involved beings from 82 Eridani.

[Lazlo]

OnyxKnight,

Many thanks for your patience and your contributions.

Sol B: You have referenced this a few times. Are we in a binary star system in which our companion has inhabitated planets? If so, are these indigenous races? Does the orbit keep the companion sytem distant, or does it make a periodic approach to our star?

How are your artistic skills? You mentioned that pictures were verboten, how about drawings of the various races and their craft? It would make for a fantastic visual companion to your story.

[OnyxKnight]

How can an aquatic species evolve to become a technological culture as tool makers?

You seem a bit skeptical Bill :). i don't see a reason why wouldn't an aquatic species evolve to start using tools?

After non-physical/energetic, and artificial life, aquatic is the most dominant type of life out there (statistically looking at the data in the AW banks). And most of the civilizations, probably, in the universe are either aquatic, amphibian, or were aquatic/amphibian at one point in their evolution.

I can only speak for the civilizations I know. The Valou have tentacles with retractable appendages which they have evolved during the long course of time when the only available food was a life form similar to the fungus was growing in the seabed, and it was hard to get it out effectively, unless one possessed the physical means to grab or wrap an extremity around the cylindrical shaped outer body of the fungus-like life forms. The food was cut short because of an ELE that occurred very early in their history as an intelligent life forms, where most of the ecosystem on the planet was destroyed, and 90% of the ecosystem was concentrated in the more coastal areas, the upper levels of the seas and the surface of the seas. luckily, in time, these fungus-like organisms, a small slug-like life forms, and the plant-analogues that survived, filled up the empty niches already established on the planet.

The first tools that they used involved bones of dead animals (the Sadir animal kingdom also has several vertebrate domains). Other more effective tools involved using rocks formed in the more deeper areas of the sea. Instead of fire they used energy from hydrothermal vents and eventually started concentrating their packs around these vents, which eventually grew into hunter-gatherer communities. The plant-analogues formed several niches on the surface of the water, where they absorbed solar radiation from the star and stored it into spherical sacks situated on their long, stalk bodies. The Valou started using those sacks as source of energy and the stalk bodies as material to build conical shaped habitats. later they used another plant-analogue which converted solar energy into electrical with its body to build the first things powered by electrical energy, such as crystals who were used for illumination (they are created as the byproduct of microbial activity on the bottom of the sea, eating away dead flesh and turning it into crystals of various forms. These fibers were cut off from the plant together with the neuron-like knots and tied together with others to form a long line of biological electrical line, connected with the crystals, situated in he center of the circular rooms, and the other end attached to a plant that is alive and converting solar to electrical energy.

Eventually they started building entire cities around hydrothermal vents who were more concentrated in one particular area. Like us, they went through a lot of natural catastrophes, like tectonic plate movement that eradicated a lot of their cities, eruption of lava, pole shifts that retracted the water and leaving some cities on dry land and exposed to a very violent sun. They eventually develop the skills to use the crystals they used for lighting in order to penetrate the bottom of the seabed using a hydraulic system. There they find that enigmatic white substance I was talking about in the beginning, for the first time. Things just escalated from there. They were afraid to go into the land, even when they had the technological means to do so. One individual, who they honor to this very day, dared to develop a suit with the plant materials they had available, added the white material on the external part of the suit, and used the empty spherical plant sacks as material to propel to the surface of the sea via the hydrothermal vents. Once on the surface this Valouan individual cut off the restrains and landed on the plants that suck up solar energy. This white material reflects the solar radiation very effectively it seems. There was a whole other world out there that they were not even able to imagine. It scared others from attempting something similar. It could be compared to us sending the first cosmonaut in space. But they were only able to observe, since they were not able to walk on land or fly in the air at that time. It took them another 50.000+ years for their civilization to dare venture further than the oceans, land and air of their planet, into orbit around their planet. Another 10.000 before they visited their moon. We have attempted things in a very short timescale compared with them.

This is what I have been told for the Valou. If you want, I can elaborate on other aquatic civilizations too.

[Rocky_Shorz]

I normally don't spread Sorcha Faal info, but I'm curious what you think of this report...


US Warns Russia: “Aliens On Their Way, Will Be Here In 2012

According to this report, the “communication signals” being passed between the giant asteroids 2010 SO16 and 2005 YU55 currently headed towards Earth, and which we reported on in our April 21st report “Awakening” Moon Shocks Scientists As Massive Asteroids Near Earth”, are “identical” to the deep-space transmissions previously described by the United States National Security Agency (NSA) as “confirming” an intelligent extraterrestrial race of beings other than human.

Most interesting to note in this report is the NSA release this past week of one of its most top-secret documents relating to these aliens titled “Key To The Extraterrestrial Messages” where the “21 symbols” used by these aliens in their “communications” seem to show that not one, but two distinct extraterrestrial are nearing our Earth...

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This report goes on to detail Putin’s speculation to Biden that our Earth may be nearing a scenario like that which occurred on April 4, 1561, when in the skies over Nuremberg, Germany, hundreds of UFO’s engaged in a battle witnessed by thousands, and of which we can read as reported from those times:..

full story (http://www.whatdoesitmean.com/index1475.htm)

[thunder24]

I have webbed feet, thats right, both. Could this have anything to do with aquatic DNA in me? As a kid, swimming under water,, if i took water in my mouth, it seemed like I could stay under longer.

In one dream I had, these enourmous craft started descending from the sky, in my dream I thought to myself that they looked very similar to the Transformers in the movie. I knew when I saw them that they were sentient.

Are there ET's that are like this and/can their crafts change shape from an enourmous ship into what would look like a earthling modern day vehicle but same size as the ship, while still in the air?
I woke up right after that, could this have been a abduction event?
thanks onyx, your information is very helpful
peace

[Rocky_Shorz]

just recently I had a helicopter pass over, but it was like I was listening to a recording...

no downward air pressure from the blades...

I've often wondered the same thing, if they slow down to aircraft speed and turn on the lights so no one notices them in the sky...

imagine a 2000 meter craft hiding behind a helicopter image... ;)

[Kerrigan]

Reading through this thread created vivid images of bright colors in my mind. So much details made me want to draw them all!

Onyx, somebody asked you this before, but i really want to know too, how are your artistic skills? Even if you don't have much skills, I would love to see doodles of the faces of the E.T. If you need help with art, feel free to PM me. Having images with the explanation would be a strong asset to your writings!

Many thanks on your detailed experiences, very well put and easy to read and comprehend.

[Feren]

This one of the most fascinating threads I've read. Thank you Onyxknight and everyone.
Keep on.
I'll be reading and maybe asking something if I need to.

[Buchanan561]

OnyxKnight,

I have just now run across your thread. I have copied and pasted the main part of your work into my word file and will take my time reading it. I too have been abducted and it started back in 1983. Right from my house. So I have no problems understanding this kind events happening to people. And god knows (maybe not) just why they chose me to keep on picking up and taking places and.....teaching me things.

I do not know who my continuous line of visitors and takers were but they were kind and never did me any harm that I have any memory of. But the ones that took me over and over would catch me OOB in my Den and grab me and take me to the astral plane. The higher astral plane as there was never anything frightful about any of it.

They kept calling me by my given name Sue all the time and by the way they did speak to me reflected to me that there were many taking that I have no memory of. Many that I do but could never figure out what the purpose was. And they never told me who they were but I woke up once in what may have been a large space ship. But it more than likely was not as they were not ETs. I don't think. They let me remember only sections of that, and as soon as it went through my head that I was in some kind of container I they zipped me back into my own home and space. One gave me warnings about this 'end time' we are now in and told me that I would live through it and not to be afraid, and another was a warning to not play around with magic.

I did, years later when reflecting back on it I wondered why they always spoke in biblical terms. Using words that you usually only find in the bible. Just a thought.
I will shut up and go read your story some more. Thank you for posting this. good idea Emma

All that I am pretty sure about is that they were not Extraterrestrials, they were
Intra- dimension-al beings. They would just appear out of no where. Walk through the walls and then I could see them after they zapped me out of body. which was often. Actually I really do believe they were where I had come from and they were keeping an eye on me while here on earth for a specific purpose. I am just now getting all the pieces together. But I always feel their presence. I do not believe that my purpose was to be in some forum but I find good company here. And through meditation I find good things. I ramble. I will go and read.

[ulli]

Just think, if they had made a slight adjustment

to testosterone production in men,

what a lovely world this could have been....

[Rocky_Shorz]

if it wasn't for male testosterone, we'd still be slaves of the Reptiles...

everything has a reason...

[Maia Gabrial]

Hi OnyxKnight,
I'm new to the forum so forgive me if I'm asking something that you've already explained in some other post.... I just finished reading your post and I loved your experiences with different ET races. It's so fascinating that I wish our people were already interacting with them!
I've had my own good and bad experiences with ET's. Nothing like yours, though, that I can remember; but your experiences give me hope that we'll get there someday soon.
I'm wondering why so much knowledge about the races has been shared with you? Are you being prepared for something important?

Would you explain about the Ashtar Collective a little more? I'm just wondering if it's similar to what I just found out about the Ashtar Command, being very deceptive with us big time on Earth.
Thanks,
Maia

[ulli]

if it wasn't for male testosterone, we'd still be slaves of the Reptiles...

everything has a reason...

the act of love decreases testosterone in men and increases it in women...

when women start acting on their increased testosterone levels

freedom can be achieved, too

less lives lost

[Billy]

Nice to see you back and aswering Questions OnyxKnight, I left one a few pages back but i am sure you are working through the Questions one by one , I await patiently, Thank you again for sharing

[Rocky_Shorz]

nice Avatar,
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/customavatars/avatar725_3.gif

the all seeing eye is much more fitting, and less scary to some... ;)

do we have any visitors from there?

[Agape]

nice Avatar,
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/customavatars/avatar725_3.gif

the all seeing eye is much more fitting, and less scary to some... ;)

do we have any visitors from there?

My guess ..Onyx had to change the Avatar last night when I went to sleep because I was posting on the forum before and right, the one before had some scorpios in it ? I'm afraid my eyes enjoy the computer less and less ...
I tried the 'google translator' software before closing the board ( changed all to Japanese :lol:)

And then as I closed my eyes ..I saw a big bright blue eye . I think that was it.


Beautiful :angel:

[OnyxKnight]

nice Avatar,
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/customavatars/avatar725_3.gif

the all seeing eye is much more fitting, and less scary to some... ;)

do we have any visitors from there?

Thanks, I feel like I'm disturbing too many people with my avatars depicting dark things, like that scary black knight I had before this one.

Question: Would you think less of me if I did put the All Seeing Eye here as an avatar? :D

But anyway, thanks, I'm glad you like it :)


My guess ..Onyx had to change the Avatar last night when I went to sleep because I was posting on the forum before and right, the one before had some scorpios in it ? I'm afraid my eyes enjoy the computer less and less ...
I tried the 'google translator' software before closing the board ( changed all to Japanese :lol:)

And then as I closed my eyes ..I saw a big bright blue eye . I think that was it.

Beautiful :angel:

Hi Agape

Actually, while in the process of changing my avatar today, and picking pictures to put here, I DID want to put a black metallic scorpio on (its my zodiac sign), but I changed my mind and decided to pick something more colorful.

I find it odd lol. Its not the first time that this happens. I feel like sometimes my sub-conscious thoughts go viral around and some "pick them up" lol.

The picture I have put now is of the Helix Nebula, colorful remains of a planetary system in the Aquarius constellation, from which I've been told that legendary lemur-like critter first appeared, from which all humanoid, human-looking ETs out there are based on.

It is also referred to as the "Eye of God".

Rocky, it may not be the "All Seeing Eye", but I think the "Eye of God" could rival that, or even be considered better ;).

For the religious people out there, do you find it interesting that the nebula is the famed prototype of all human races in the known space, its referred to as the "Eye of God" and its in the Aquarius constellation (us entering the age of Aquarius pretty soon and all)?

PS: Rocky, no visitors that I could think of that would be living in the remains of that nebula, but I'm prone to imagine the "Progenitors" were very busy there, doing what they did, so I could list them as some kind of force "working behind the scenes".

[Rocky_Shorz]

the Eye of God is where human life began, wow, you might have something there to make this easier for religions to swallow... ;)

I bet the pope would back you on that one...

[OnyxKnight]

the Eye of God is where human life began, wow, you might have something there to make this easier for religions to swallow... ;)

I bet the pope would back you on that one...

LOL

Wait until he sees some of the ETs.

Even the humanoid ones.

The Mekodem might fit the classical demon-type. Fierce red skin, orange eyes, pointy ears, even the legs have a 'Z' type double-joint arrangement (in other words, reminisce the satyr-like legs, only no fur, and no hooves etc.), and the only thing they would be missing would be a tail ending in an arrow-shaped point, and a trident, and taadaaa, you have your demonic manifestation lol.

I wonder what they will react to the rest, non-humanoid ones ....


But I agree, it might be a one step easier, for things the religious people to swallow I guess.

[Rocky_Shorz]

any idea when we might have the pleasure of meeting?


psychic communication with some was like pounding a round peg into a square hole...

do they have communications devices to speak through?

[Tahi]

OFF TOPIC: I know...

Hi OnyxKnight, since seeing your Avatar this morning I have seen 3 pictures of the Helix Nebula, on this forum and two other websites... Not related. Today is the first time I seen the the Helix Nebula.
I think someone is trying tell me something... mmmmmm

Carry on, as you were ;)

[observer]

.... [snip]
Wait until he sees some of the ETs.... [snip]
....and the only thing they would be missing would be a tail ending in an arrow-shaped point, and a trident, and taadaaa, you have your demonic manifestation.... [snip]
I wonder what they will react to the rest, non-humanoid ones ....[snip]
....it might be a one step easier, for things the religious people to swallow I guess.... [snip].

Onyx, my brother,

As I've attempted (in the past) to point-out, everything to which you speak (here in this quote) is a matter of semantics.


One can use many different terms to describe the same phenomenon.
One's perception of events is very much molded by one's conditioning.
The human species has not gotten any 'smarter' since we were genetically manipulated into existence. Our understanding has evolved, not our intelligence capacity.


Over the course of recorded history (civilization), the records of this human species have indicated these 'manifestations' as "demonic". The term should not be mocked, rather understood with greater insight.

As our human capacity for understanding increases with each successive generation, it is not at all difficult to look-back at the records from antiquity and understand what is being described with a greater comprehension.

It is also not difficult to review these records as interpretations of experiences from the dark side of duality....

They are very clever at what they do....

[zerohero]

OnyxKnight, thanks for the great story!

I especially like the parts that match up with Sitchen, other contactee interviews and video games. Ever play Star Control 2?

I'd like to ask you if you could elaborate on their spiritual belief systems, and their histories of those systems.

Also, do you know of any preying mantis like ETs?

Thanks and please keep writing, it is a fascinating read.

[Rocky_Shorz]

Wait until he sees some of the ETs.

Even the humanoid ones.

The Mekodem might fit the classical demon-type. Fierce red skin, orange eyes, pointy ears, even the legs have a 'Z' type double-joint arrangement (in other words, reminisce the satyr-like legs, only no fur, and no hooves etc.), and the only thing they would be missing would be a tail ending in an arrow-shaped point, and a trident, and taadaaa, you have your demonic manifestation lol.

I wonder what they will react to the rest, non-humanoid ones ....


I'm curious what your reaction was the first time you met them?


The civilization from Van Maanen's star have red skin (very much red, like tomato red, not Native American red), and they also have pointy ears and broad noses like Ania and Jarek. They call themselves the Mekodem, their culture being divided in clans, and the representatives I met are from the family called Makadi, a main branch of the clan they call Makadesch (supposedly one of the oldest clans). They are the ones I have had the most contact with along with Jarek and Ania. The two males of this race I contact mostly are the Koren and Akiva. It seems that the culture as a whole is pretty much benevolent, from what I have gathered so far. They used to be very much reserved with information when we had contact in the past, but as time went by they became more open about almost everything I was interested. They are one of the races that had to learn my written and spoken language, for communication purposes, as opposed to their language with morphing symbols (which I still barely understand, to this day). Their culture is very much dominated by colors and symbolism. They have very strong, lively, concentrated colors on their clothes,. In some aspects, the clothes remind me of what the people in India wear. They work closely with the humanoid groups from Tau Ceti, Epsilon Eridani and Alpha Centauri...

do you know if their religious beliefs are close to the Hindu?

[Moonwish]

Hi Onyx;

I really like the new photo you've chosen. It is more "user friendly" though I was not personally put off by the other one.

I wonder how those in contact with us conciliate the idea of free will / prime directive with their interaction with us.

If this is, according to one psychic explorer, a virtual reality model where we are lowering our entropy (see Thomas Campbell "My Big TOE [Theory of Everything])

in order to evolve, why are they tainting the game? Because we're losing? Or something else?

When one reality system intersects with another, change is rapid and somewhat unpredictable.

Since I've been having guests myself, life seems to be polarized. "Regular Life" and this.

What is the expected outcome? What is the timetable?

[passiglight]

Hi Onyx,i have some questions which i hope you won't mind me asking,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

in your first thread you comment about the ,,quote,,,,,"Ashtar Collective",,,,,,,,,,which as i am aware is part of the galactic federation crew,,,,,,,,,which we all know is a made up bunch of stuff from st germain and co,who by the way is supposed to be charles master,, or should i say was in a previous incarnation,,,, as the new one is currently acting his way through a new series of something in the usa,and is running around with his fake unicorns and pack of wolves back in the uk,,,,,,,,,,,

So my first question is,,,,,,,,,,,,,,WHAT IS YOUR CONNECTION WITH THE HOUSE OF RAGOCZY ? AND THE GFL ????



HAS ANYONE EVER WONDERED WHY THE BRITISH ROYALS HAVE A UNICORN ON ONE SIDE OF THEIR COAT OF ARMS AND A MANTICORE ON THE OTHER ??????????

WELL YOU SERIOUSLY SHOULD,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

who would like to see some pictures of the famous ????????????????

Anyway back to topic,,,,,,,,,,,oh sorry i forgot,,,,,,,,,i'm on topic,,,,,,,,lol

You seem to draw your experiences from some sources which can be found on-line ..............

Here.................. http://johnsonm.com/garden_universe/Worlds/Toliman.htm

and here............. http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/vida_alien/alien_typologies.htm#contents

And of course THE GALACTIC FED CREW.........

please would you be so kind to confirm this and..............

Please can you explain to me and the rest of the interested AV formers why it is you just didn't put the links up which surely would have been much easier than copy and pasting the fantasies of the bloodlines,,,,,,,,,,which you all seem to take such great delight in drumming into each other about

and of course same goes for OMNIVERSE,who's links i will put up later................

And hi charles how's it going,,,,,,,,,,i see the your lot have been sooooooooo busy infiltrating avalon,,,,,,,,,with the plubicity side of the bloodies form of spirituality

Shame it's a completeload of old waffellllll including the so called gods,,,,,,,,who by the way are exactly the same figures that appeared in............

La Très Sainte Trinosophi (The Most Holy Trinosophia).............which can be found here for those who wish to check on my comments.... https://sacred-texts.com/eso/mht/mht04.htm

And you would you kindly explain to the good folk of avalon why it is that your own personal experiences are very similar to the acounts of others of your bloodline.....??

Thank you very much,,,,,,,,,, look forward to hearing your replies........

By the way,,,,,,, big thread coming soon,,,,,,,,,with full details,,,,,,,,,of house of hesse,,,,,,,,house of ragoczy,,,,,,,,,House of pendragon,,,,,,,,,,,and the fullest details of the man at the top of the tree himself,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,yes phillipe thats you.........

One point to note here is that you guys really don't want me dead,,,,,,,,,

because i won't be going back to source and my DNA is more than a bit spicey,,,,,,,,,,

Take care boys and girls

cosmic love,,,,,,,,,,,

[OnyxKnight]

I don't usually respond to other people this way unless I'm done with all those who asked questions/commented before the said individuals in a chronological order, but I will make an exception this time.


Hi Onyx,i have some questions which i hope you won't mind me asking,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

in your first thread you comment about the ,,quote,,,,,"Ashtar Collective",,,,,,,,,,which as i am aware is part of the galactic federation crew,,,,,,,,,which we all know is a made up bunch of stuff from st germain and co,who by the way is supposed to be charles master,, or should i say was in a previous incarnation,,,, as the new one is currently acting his way through a new series of something in the usa,and is running around with his fake unicorns and pack of wolves back in the uk,,,,,,,,,,,

If you knew what the "Ashtar Collective" really is, you wouldn't be really mocking it.

There is no army, or space armada, like channelers present it. And I'm 100% skeptical of any "Ashtar" channeled material. Any real Ashtar contactees? Have heard of no such thing.

Its an extraterrestrial artificial intelligence created by (so far), unknown source to me, in a star system in Canis Major. It goes from star system to star system and collects biological material of the life forms it encounters. There was a group of nations who have origins from Sirius and the Pleiades who went on to create their own associations, and one of their goals was to conquer this A.I. and use its library of genetic materials for their own purposes. In doing so, they just ended up being turned into a biological mush themselves and get incorporated into the A.I. system. The A.I. system acts as a collective intelligence but when it communicates it communicates as a single individual.

Have people like Ashtar, St. Germain and the like existed? Maybe. They could be the ones devoured by the A.I., or they could be invented characters, based on the biological material it has harvested.

What it does is, it channels information to a group of individuals on the world it visits and adds it to its list of potential 'resource worlds'. The information they present always pictures them ('it' to be more precise) in a positive light. What is always present is that 'doomsday' prediction, the "harvest" part of the scenario, and the "trigger" that its needed.

1- Doomsday event - Nobody wants to die, so of course somebody who is told TSHTF soon, will take any ticket away from this planet and save themselves. The A.I. does like to present itself as some sort of cosmic messiah. My advice to everyone - don't buy it;

2- The "Trigger" - I've heard a lot of people talk about a certain piece of text they need to, I quote, "chant", in order for Ashtar's army to come and save them. Some sort of "magic spell". It aint no spell, it aint no calling. Its an EXECUTIVE COMMAND. It will recognize the individuals who have "chanted" the piece of text, and come and harvest them - as we harvest crops. As simple as that. I could look for some testimonies regarding this, on the net, but I cant right now, although anyone interested, can look for it. There are numerous cases where the kids of those who were involved in worshiping this "Ashtar" thing, went missing. I have talked to one of the mothers who had their kids taken, on the Indigo Society forum, which resulted in my ban for some reason.

If Charles' master was one of the people who wanted to conquer this armada for their own purposes, then he is most certainly dead right now. Unless he has reincarnated as something else, and living presently on this planet.

I believe the "Galactic Federation of Light" is just another extension of its absorption program, but I'm not 100% sure (haven't asked either). I do know that such a thing does not exist either, according to those who I contact. There is only one major body of civilizations that work with each other, extending 2000 light years in in spherical radius. Nothing galactic about it, 2000 light years around in each direction is nothing more than ~2% of the Milky Way, and they refer to it as the "Allied Worlds" or "Alliance of Worlds". I haven't heard of anything else.


So my first question is,,,,,,,,,,,,,,WHAT IS YOUR CONNECTION WITH THE HOUSE OF RAGOCZY ? AND THE GFL ????

The only reference I have found of this House of Ragoczy is that is a royal family of some sort. I have no connection with it as I am of no royal descent.

I live in a country very few even know it exists (or still exists), in the heart of the Balkans, called Macedonia. Nothing royal there, at this point in time at least. Alexander the Great happened and passed, nothing major after him though.

I'll make things a little bit more easy for you, or anyone so eager to research my background more thoroughly. I'm the third one in my family to bear the name Alexander (that I know of), and I got mine after my grandfather, who was apex pilot in WW2, fighting the fascist groups, and flying one of the first Lear Jet airplanes (there might be some records of this, as he was quite used in sabotage missions when he was under the hold of the nazi, he crashed quite a few of their planes). His wife was a Serbian maid from Kragujevac, Serbia, and I also have a Spanish ethnic background from my mother's side, the furthest I have come being a man from the Araba region of Basqia), a cropsman called Diego (and I will withhold using surnames for my personal security).

I am interested though, why you want to see me connected with the royal bloodlines? You need material to stick the "disinfo" tape on my mouth, or what?


HAS ANYONE EVER WONDERED WHY THE BRITISH ROYALS HAVE A UNICORN ON ONE SIDE OF THEIR COAT OF ARMS AND A MANTICORE ON THE OTHER ??????????

WELL YOU SERIOUSLY SHOULD,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

I like the lion and the sun symbol more. Personal taste I guess :). Used frequently in our nation.

And I do wonder, so do tell me.


Anyway back to topic,,,,,,,,,,,oh sorry i forgot,,,,,,,,,i'm on topic,,,,,,,,lol

You seem to draw your experiences from some sources which can be found on-line ..............

Here.................. http://johnsonm.com/garden_universe/Worlds/Toliman.htm

Are you referring this guy using some of the same star systems that my contacts come from? Like Alpha Centauri and Epsilon Eridani? That's about it regarding similarity that I can see, and nothing "omg dishinfo alarm!" about it IMO.

Edit: I searched the website a bit more. You are referring probably to the civilization this guy calls "The Great Seeders". Yes, it does sound like the same one I was talking about in many other forums, social networks and the like, and the one I have been talking about here too, the Progenitors.

The only similarity: both being old civilizations, mysteriously vanish, are known to have seeded life on many worlds;

The difference:


The second oldest major known sophont race in the Known Universe, the endlessly mysterious Great Seeders laid down primitive life on nearly all suitable water and water/ammonia worlds throughout the Known Universe.

From what I know, the Known Universe for civilizations, even the oldest, is the area known as the Local Group - the local region of galaxies, featuring three major, and a myriad of minor galaxies. Little is known beyond that.

The "Known Universe" the guy refers to might be secluded to an even smaller area, or he might refer to the whole universe, how would I know? Or you for that matter?

Another difference - The Progenitors, from what I know about them, have not been prejudicial. Regarding different planets, and thus different atmospheres, and different type of stars (from blue, to red, to yellow). They have created life on water worlds, yes, but also on very arid, desert worlds as well, even some as hellish as our Venus is today. One of the words they have helped form a biosphere is orbiting a neutron star, in the Triangulum Galaxy. Neutron stars are not exactly known to being friendly to biological life.

Here, this race created life on exclusively water, and water/ammonia worlds.

I'm not the only one talking about an ancient, starter civilization though. Why blame me for copying material from this person specifically?

And is I have a similar material with somebody else who is a contactee, well, that should be a good thing, as what would be the point if every contactee came up to us with a different story?

The only real parallel I have found, long time ago, was with Alex Collier's Paa Tal. Why not blame me for "copying" him and his material?

Oh wait, this guy is creating a sci-fi project, a fictional universe :). And Alex is a real contactee, so if discrediting, you would have to discredit both.

I dunno what you are up to, so help me out with this please.


With the first of their influence dated some 4.1 billion years ago, they are the second oldest known major sophont race, they or their automated servants appear to have existed for some 300 million years. The cause of their disappearance is completely unknown and will likely never be known for they left no artifacts; no ships, no cities, no anomalous metal concentrations,

Another huge difference - the Progenitors "appear"* first in the Andromeda Galaxy, around ~ 11.3 billion years ago and they seem to immediately go "down to business" and terraform (or create) planets, and even arrange/compose entire star systems and start life there.

Their disappearance may be unknown, but the Local Group of galaxies is littered with various artifacts and remnants of their technology, a few present in our Solar System as well.


The Great Seeders appear to have engineered or bred the life they seeded from a single ancestral bioform, therefore, all Great Seeder biospheres share a common ancestor and many basic cellular and biochemical properties despite the varieties the Great Seeders created and subsequent four gigayears of evolution. The original bioforms could all be classified as Proto-Archaea and fell into two major groupings; Carbon/Water-based and Carbon/Water/Ammonia-based.

This is only similar to what I have said regarding mankind and the human-looking ETs. All of us, humanoid, human-like beings don't count for even 1% of the life forms the Progenitors have seed across the Local Group, many having quote alien physiology, and quite an exotic biochemistry - one good example being the 17 civilizations of Matar (Eta Pegasi), who are not only non-humanoid, but who are not carbon-based like us, but are nitrogen/phosphorus-based.

We for example, have no shared biological ancestry with these beings. The only thing we have in common regarding their existence and life is that we are both product of the Progenitors, directly (like them), or indirectly (like us).

I have been on and on about this since 2003, on various websites and forums. The latest update this guy has made is in 01.19.2011. Given I have been on so many places I have lost count, its not illogical to assume he might have came across some of my information and twisted it in his own version for his sci-fi project.

Its also a known fact that a lot of the sci-fi movies/TV Shows/Video games are using elements from the UFO/ET community as a source of information/inspiration.


and here............. http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/vida_alien/alien_typologies.htm#contents

Help me understand this - because there are 'some' similarities with the ... tons of material there, then that makes me a fraud?

Wouldn't logic dictate that a similar material is more prone to be true, than materials drastically different?

I'm saying this in context of you accusing me of copying material from there, not that I necessarily agree there are so many similarities between them. If there are, you are welcome to show me (and the rest).


And of course THE GALACTIC FED CREW.........

please would you be so kind to confirm this and..............

To my understanding there is no Galactic Federation out there, but you do have the right to your personal beliefs.


Please can you explain to me and the rest of the interested AV formers why it is you just didn't put the links up which surely would have been much easier than copy and pasting the fantasies of the bloodlines,,,,,,,,,,which you all seem to take such great delight in drumming into each other about

How about you list the copied material? Instead of me "giving you the links to it"?


and of course same goes for OMNIVERSE,who's links i will put up later................

Omni IMO is also a real contactee. Again, you have the right to a different opinion.


And hi charles how's it going,,,,,,,,,,i see the your lot have been sooooooooo busy infiltrating avalon,,,,,,,,,with the plubicity side of the bloodies form of spirituality

First, I have been on Avalon for a long long time.

Second, I only started participating in the forum talks when the payment subscription was lifted (some royal family connection! I didn't have any money to call my own).

Third, if you did your research right, you would see that I dislike Charles greatly and I also have a post, that a mod moved as a separate thread (and he immediately closed it for some ... odd reason). My opinion on Charles/Atticus is perfectly summed up there (Although I had a bit of an aggression period that time around, so what you will read is quite harsh and aggressive, but its what I basically think of that character).

And you could also see what I think of their philosophy on every thread on that topic that I have participated in. You haven't done your homework, have you?


Shame it's a completeload of old waffellllll including the so called gods,,,,,,,,who by the way are exactly the same figures that appeared in............

La Très Sainte Trinosophi (The Most Holy Trinosophia).............which can be found here for those who wish to check on my comments.... https://sacred-texts.com/eso/mht/mht04.htm

I use "." when talking about the Gods ("Gods"). I'm referring to extraterrestrials.

Regarding this link you set, its bad.


Secure Connection Failed

sacred-texts.com uses an invalid security certificate.

The certificate is only valid for host4.cruzio.com
The certificate expired on 06.04.2009 00:41.

(Error code: ssl_error_bad_cert_domain)


And you would you kindly explain to the good folk of avalon why it is that your own personal experiences are very similar to the acounts of others of your bloodline.....??

Thank you very much,,,,,,,,,, look forward to hearing your replies........

What bloodline!? Who are these "others"!? And like I said before, similarity in experiences is a good thing, in my opinion, because it proves to me that somebody else has went through the same thing I have, or has been exposed to the same information from other/same sources that I have.

Be more clear please.


By the way,,,,,,, big thread coming soon,,,,,,,,,with full details,,,,,,,,,of house of hesse,,,,,,,,house of ragoczy,,,,,,,,,House of pendragon,,,,,,,,,,,and the fullest details of the man at the top of the tree himself,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,yes phillipe thats you.........

Um ....... My name is Alexander ......



______________________________
* The Progenitors seem to "appear" out of nowhere, in full form. There is no indication that they had evolved from a simple form of life, though there is physical evidence of their activity in space, giving a hint that they were most likely physical, biological beings, only very old as a culture, and with an advanced technology akin to somebody being that much time present in the universe.

[ThePythonicCow]

Third, if you did your research right, you would see that I dislike Charles greatly and I also have a post, that a mod moved as a separate thread (and he immediately closed it for some ... odd reason).
That post (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?15858-Re-Plea-to-Atticus&p=169157&viewfull=1#post169157) reads rather different to me now than it did then when I moved and closed it. It makes more sense now.

[Kamikaze]

Much interesting reading in this thread.

I think passiglight got highly enthusiastic about 'his?' work and might have seen things one way or the other.
I'm interested to see and read it non the less. There is always something to be found in everything. Looks like "new" material for my eyes in either way.

I myself didn't like what I was reading too much in the beginning of this thread. It seemed overly familiar and looked like a hoop shoot mix and mash off all stories I've encountered now and then reading different stories of et-contacts and also some channeling and some random stories I had encountered. I thought at first it was channeled material(I recall reading some stuff that seemed to fit in like a piece of a puzzle with this)! But soon saw then your take on that afterwards, which made me soften a little to take my time and read through all you had to share.

I took a off stance to see this play out.

Your either a true contactee or a well researched individual with some cunning intelligence and motive to draw up this elaborate story. Probably then also with some well backed finances to make all this well of your time spent.
But I'll say it feels like there is truth in the words you share and the more I read the more convincing and coherent it seemed all to be.
But it could also mean I've been drawn in by some real good writing skills with "something" (can't get the word out from my mind)

I'm a steadfastly strong on that channeling is true as in it 'works' but who is on the other side? What are their motives? Do they speak truth? Are there agendas etc?... It's a much harder game to play than being in front of a actual person to communicate with. They could still lie.. but well it's harder to hide. And the more you get the easier it should be to see the lies if you are awake.

I would like to see more details and happenings and encounters you've had. Have they warned you of like something happening around in space we should be aware off or on earth? (natural events of sorts, or others, was a little while I read most in this thread so I don't recall right now if you took anything like that up?)

[observer]

Onyxknight,

As an 'observer', I'm trying not to come to any conclusions (just yet) regarding your story. Many on this thread seem convinced you are legitimate. Others, seem to have doubt. I'm undecided.

Your earlier explanation to me that your best friend of fourteen years once saw you walk-off with an individual that he thought was a college acquaintance, just doesn't allow for proof of these extraordinary claims you are making.

I think you could put all the uncertainty to rest if you would be willing to have an independent (preferably team) of investigators interview both yourself and (at least one of) your alien friends. If, as you say, you have had a long term relationship, I see no reason why one of these entities would not be interested in revealing itself to a team of interviewers, such as Bill and Kerry (for instance). All conducted at a safe location of the alien's choosing.

I'm certain (if these extraterrestrials) are truly interested in transparency and truthfulness, they would have no problem meeting with people of the character of Bill and Kerry.

Otherwise, it can only be assumed that something sinister is happening here.

Just to tie this in with another thread you have going, I would make the same suggestion with regard to Alex Collier.

I personally think it's imperative that Bill and Kerry interview Alex with one of his extraterrestrial buddies.

The time for these 'alleged' benign entities to come forward is long past due....

[Agape]

Just to say hello to buddies. I had to get some B12 shots and going to sleeeeep

Onyx, Alex, what's your favourite planet in this Universe ? Where did you come from ?



:sleep:

[vibrations]

I see a passIgkight being very angry for some reason and in a very wrong mode. As I understand Onyx is not posting here to convince anyone about some truth or even "higher truth". He is just sharing his experience and as I see it he is doing it well, in a balanced way and I appreciate it very much. His info is here so take it or leave it, ther is no obligation to believe. My criteria what is good and what bad info comes from what my heart tells me, and I do not have any point against what Onyx is writing. In reality for me he revealed a lot of things which were there in some memory cluster in my mind and needed additional info. So all my respects to his work and a huge THANK YOU.

[arpanet]

...just doesn't allow for proof of these extraordinary claims you are making.

I don't think he is trying to prove anything. He is just sharing information. Take it or leave it.


I think you could put all the uncertainty to rest if you would be willing to have an independent (preferably team) of investigators interview both yourself and (at least one of) your alien friends.

I highly doubt this would put all the uncertainty to rest. The only definite proof is that the ETs reveal themselves globally to everybody everywhere. But I think that would be regarded as against the rule of non-interference :)

That said, I would still like to see Bill & Kerry interview OnyxKnight's friends :p

[observer]

If I'm wrong, than Bill can correct me on this.


I don't recall ever seeing a single interview by Bill and Kerry where social chit-chat was the topic of discussion.
From my understanding, Avalon was created as a place where complex issues (pertinent to the destiny of Humanity) can be discussed and debated by individuals capable of critical thinking.
From my perspective, endless threads of social interaction are a waste of valuable time.

[OnyxKnight]

Alternative parallel timelines? (What might be our future?)

The future is just a sum of probable scenarios, and of course, they may not happen. But you know this very well, better than most I assume, regarding the change of events of certain probable outcomes, by yourself and Kerry.

There are two, best, according to my analysis, timelines of the future. One, involving full disclosure several decades from now, as a result of culminating negative events, by several humanoid groups of ETs. In regards to chemtrail toxication, viral outbreaks, artificial disasters, mass murder etc. As we are not heading this way, I will refrain from talking about it at this point in time.

There are several bad potential future timelines that still lurk "on the side", although we seem to be going down a slightly less "negative", but still one of the "bumpiest" roads possible out there.

The is the other, also a bit disastrous, and challenging timeline, sets a series of events that severaly damage human population, creating another desert region in the western part of North America and eastern part of Russia. A post apocalyptic scenario of a sort, if you will, involving hitech weaponry used among different shadow groups (not official governments). The destruction being attributed to alien invading force (which does not exist in reality, it is made up), and introduce us to a real alien race, and the biodrones (lab grown ET beings). A variant of the project Bluebeam. The surviving population will be split, depending on who of these groups gets to what part of the oulation and house them under its own control. One of these groups though, is slightly neautral to my understanding, so they may not have a sinister agenda regarding the collecting of surviving humans. I'm told this shadow group is now actively doing some work in Africa (I'm not told exactly who this group is, and what are they doing there, to this point, possibly so I don't affect too much of what might happen).

A few of the shadow groups, that do work closely with each other today, after introducing the ET species, will start to covertly do another hybridization program. There will be routine "health checks" established for men and women (where unknowingly, eggs and sperm would be taken as samples, and used). This is mainly based in the North American continent and parts of Central America. The food companies will start delivering food that will make the humans have a shorter lifespan, or introducing a "deadline". When the product, the human resource, becomes "corrupted", or "stale", they will be replaced with a fresh one. There will be a certain population of humans maintained, in order for the ETs to have a fresh genetic stock to use for the hybrids, and of course, maintaining the controlling human factor who must not get out of the equation, through a disease, disaster, or a fatal injury.

In a slightly different timeline variant this is taken to a new level, where humans consume mutagenic compounds in their food, causing severe genetic mutation. My contacts where not clear why there is a need for this to be done in the first place.

In these assault exchange programs western Europe is severely devastated, as well as some small parts of southern Europe. The larger parts of Greece, Albania and Bulgaria will be devastated by an artificial tsunami disaster scenario, as well as the Egyptian populated areas that lie on the Mediterranean coast (like Alexandria) and all the other surrounding places of human settlements around the Mediterranean Sea. France survives and unites with the region of Basqia under its French territory (Basqians dislike other nations and mixing with them, so I'm unsure how this happens), as well as Italy and the Sicilian parts into one united body of nations. They build huge walls extending several km in the sky around the part of the country they call the 'Central French Republic', or their epicenter of power. They will culturally disintegrate into cultureless soceity of hive-minded humans as time goes by, as they isolate themselves from the rest of the world (again, I understand the disastrous scenarios, but this seems to extreme and too absurd to happen, yet this is what was laid out to me). The Basque region of Spain takes hold in power and picks up the remaining parts along with Portugal when they become weak economically, under the 'Union of Basqia'. The Nordic countries survive by hiding in the underground cities built there (some are not built by humans). The Slavic regions also survive and take the least damage. But technologically they are drawn back for a century.

Only small parts of the Bavarian region of Germany survive, they form secluded isolasionist communities (largely underground). Only Belgium, parts of Turkey, Switzerland, some parts of Russia and Ukraine survive, the rest of the European countries are devastated beyond recognition.

This is part of a one timeline of events. Individual actions of people will determine how much, if any, of this would happen. This timeline sounds pretty bad, and pessimistic, but after a few centuries after these events, I'm told a benevolent global guidance system will be implemented incorporating most countries. The Martian teritory will be free for colonization too. An apropriate colonization at that. Some ET elements will reveal themselves but present themselves as remnants of "old human culture, going back to Atlantis" as they still don't feel we are "there yet" regarding ET reality made factual globally. Even less then, when there is so much else going on. After the colony on Mars (My ET contacts constantly leave off the Moon from the talk when discussing colonization, and they also hinted that it may not be around by the time most people start to pay attention to the sky again - humans will hide underground for a lot of time before going back to the surface), we colonize Ganymede and Titan. A dispatch station is set around Neptune accompanied by an accelerator tech (a type of technology that accelerates insterstellar travel near 3/4 of the speed of light), a "phase" gate, that wil be nicknamed Neptune Gate (very ... innovative ....). For some reason they said that what I know beyond that should be withheld from discussion at this point in time (it involves interstellar activities of humans).

Some other things that may happen in multiple timelines, that I will discuss a bit more in detail in another post:

* Full implementation of solar, wind, wave and tide energy in Asia (Most of Asia survives, and in the imagery I saw, Japan was still there, live and well);

* Discovery of magnetic, vacuum, acoustic, and orgonite sources of energy;

* Healing practices with solar energy and sound;

* The discovery of an A.I system monitoring our planet, by the Japanese.

* New theories of evolution will emerge;

* Discovery of the second sun, thus making our system a binary one ;

* Small Physical Pole Shift;

* Fall of EU and NATO;

* Discovery that Earth at one point in time had two moons (and even more deep in its past, no moons at all, and was in a system that once had three suns);

* Iran revealing ties with the Aldebaran system

and more


Which races are co-operating with the US government, and why?

'Grey' groups from Ursa Major (not Zeta Reticuli), and several civilizations of the Orion Group (HD 37022, Betelgeuse, Bellatrix, 13 Orionis, Tabit & Phi Orionis). Sirius B and Alcyone are also part of the contact.

The Orion Groups have an interest in the american lands, particularly whats under them. Also, the females in general (but they only made the deal with the USA government for a free supply of female eggs). Sirians from Sirius B seem to have an interst in MK Ultra experiements the most, but they are also here for the females too. The Pleiadians from Alcyone helped in establishing America in the first place, so their interest is clear. They gave up on you some time ago, after the rise of atheism. Though the militarism remains present in american culture. The "Reptoids" from Izar are present under american soil, but they are not in contact with any shadow group so far.


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I will add more to this later on, as I'm short with time and with noted material

[Rocky_Shorz]

hi Onyx, you really shouldn't defend yourself at all in this thread, just ignore fire starters...

if people don't understand why you are here, then they weren't meant to join the conversations in the first place.

Did you see I was searching back on Alexander yesterday?

I'd like to know your comments on what I uncovered...


follow me... (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?19509-Arthurian-Dynasty-In-Search-of-the-Prince-of-Wales-%28Cymry%29&p=209410&viewfull=1#post209410)

[vibrations]

Hi Onyx, nice post about timeline. I was aware about some of the possible scenarios but you put more light on it with a lot more details. Very nice, thanx.

[Axman]

Oxy Thanks for this thread it makes sense to me.
One question any info on the Law of One from any of your off world friends or was this disinfo.

Thanks again and take care of yourself
The Axman

[passiglight]

Hi Onyx,,

Thank you for responding to me i appreciate it...

i would like to say that i am not against you in any way,, i find your thread here and all your material very interesting,, very well written and you come across very sincere and intelligent....

i do have some more to say to you i hope you won't mind.

I am pushed for time right now and will get back to you soon....

once again thankyou very much...

cosmic love to all

[Rocky_Shorz]

don't worry everyone, our energy is peaked because of the new moon, everyone hang on 24 more hours and we'll be through it...

[Eric J (Viking)]

Well this is one monster informative thread...from what I have read so far...

I really do think, as several have said here that you need to be interviewed by Bill.

If you are are genuine Onyx, and sincerely hope you are then you will have no problem in an invite by Bill. As long as its ok with Bill of course.

I look forward to further input from you.

Just one thing, do the ET's have a underlying message for mankind ?

Thanks again.

viking

[MariaDine]

Ah ! Now I understand ...

[Flasky]

Why do they insist in wanting our "female" (I'm a female btw) don't they have freaking female of their own? *smoke puffs comes out of nose* And if we are so primitive compared to them, why the heck do they want to mix with our DNA? What are they seeking from this hybrid scenarios of theirs?

Sorry, had to get that rant out...:o

Ok so interesting to hear whats under the American 'soil'...is anything happening in Australia?

Edit

Woops, and I forgot to mention...........

Lol, are you taking down notes when your contacts talk to you because this is SO MUCH INFORMATION TO REMEMBER WITH SO MUCH DETAIL!!! Said that, you are awesome.

[Ascended Bean]

Hello OnyxKnight -

I have been lurking here since Avalon was created off and on without an account. Stumbling on this thread has made me apply for an account because I want to ask you questions.

I find what you have to say very fascinating but somewhat contradictory to what I have learned in the past. However, I’m drawn to it and it feels.... “right” for lack of a better word. So I want to bounce a few things off of you, if you as I redevelop and redefine what I know and believe (as such should never be cemented, imo).

1) The Moon.
Is it artificial?
Is there life on it? If so, who or what?

2) You’ve touched on time travel and multiple timelines. With many of the species you have described, several are millions or billions of years more advanced than we are.
If time travel can exist, do other species participate in it?
Do they even experience and measure time like we do?
Also, can you comment on “looking glass” technology?

3) For some reason Hollow Earth theory has always fascinated me. Can you comment on it? Is any aspect of it real? Etidorpha? Hyperborea? Are planets “hollow”, as absurd as most find it?

4) Religion.
Can you comment on any religions that you know of that are directly “manipulated” by ET’s in modern times?
Which of them are interested in this?
What affects have they had on past religious events and figures (Zeus, Krishna, Jesus, Buddha)?
Also, are these more advanced species religious? Are any of their religions similar to ours?

5) Can you elaborate on what they have told you happens when we die?
Is physical death absolute?
Can physical death be overcome?

6) You describe political and social belief systems that don’t seem too different than what we have. I really would have thought that any civilization with a few billion years on us would be way beyond things like treaties, warfare, territory, and contracts. Can you explain why they don’t seem too much more “advanced” than us in this regard?

7) Have you played a videogame called Mass Effect? I ask because much of what you are saying is VERY similar to the back story in that game. I am certainly not accusing you of ripping it off, more the opposite. :) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mass_Effect#Setting