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Ahkenaten
12th March 2011, 21:50
Today scholars announced what they believe is the discovery of the ancient city of Atlantis - in a huge swamp in Spain! Check it out:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/us_tsunami_atlantis

cloud9
12th March 2011, 21:55
I hate articles with no pictures but thank you Ahkenaten for the link.

DawgBone
12th March 2011, 22:00
Today scholars announced what they believe is the discovery of the ancient city of Atlantis - in a huge swamp in Spain! Check it out:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/us_tsunami_atlantis

Very interesting, Ahk! Thank you.

Bluebird
12th March 2011, 22:12
Thank you Ahkenaten for this link. Very interesting! Will look forward to following this story

Maria Stade
12th March 2011, 22:43
Thank you Ahk :biggrin:
Here is something for you !


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a1zvWMREQhQ&feature=related

Have a great weekend !

Love

Maria

giovonni
12th March 2011, 22:54
Reminder for those who have cable access

Finding Atlantis
Next PrimeTime Airing Sun Mar 13 9P Sun Mar 13 8P Sun Mar 13 7P Sun Mar 13 9P

http://channel.nationalgeographic.com/staticfiles/NGC/StaticFiles/Images/Show/49xx/498x/4982_Finding%20Atlantis-09_04700300.jpg


Read more: http://channel.nationalgeographic.com/episode/finding-atlantis-4982/Overview#tab-Photos/8#ixzz1GQddYFd9

modwiz
12th March 2011, 23:33
Today scholars announced what they believe is the discovery of the ancient city of Atlantis - in a huge swamp in Spain! Check it out:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/us_tsunami_atlantis

Made you look, made you look!

Mention Atlantis and you will get noticed. An ancient city of Atlantean culture is more like it.

Given the enormity of influence of this civilization, anywhere on the peripheral Atlantic coasts is a reasonable place to find their presence.

These scholars have now gotten their 15 minutes of fame.

Rog
12th March 2011, 23:57
Yea, good point Mod. It's good that they've found more evidence of old societies and who knows maybe a location where an artifact will show up out of left field. Let's just not let these guys spin us off our barstool.

str8thinker
13th March 2011, 01:53
I'd like a dollar every time someone claims to have found "Atlantis". Why is this lost city necessarily Atlantis? Did they find a submerged gate or monument with Atlantis inscribed on it? It's a nice find, but until that happens, let's just call it a "memorial city" as the original article says. My favorite sites right now are in the West Indies and also off the West coast of India. It would be great to know how many of these are antediluvian (before the Great Flood, or earlier than 10000 BCE).

TWINNICK
13th March 2011, 02:25
Yes I think there is tons of stuff under the sea's which we have yet to discover, I have only had a quick look at this but I do like Graham Hancock's work, check it out and see what you think.

..Nick..



http://www.grahamhancock.com/archive/underworld/

davyj0nes
13th March 2011, 02:28
sweet! now we can turn archeologist to finding Mu, and Lemuria.

Ahkenaten
13th March 2011, 02:42
I would like to point out the obvious - that Schliemann was not an expert in his field but a person with a profound hunch that he knew the location of the fabled city of Troy. If I remember the story correctly his hunch was based upon a dream he had. Turned out he was correct! It doesn't hurt at all for people of all stripes and inclinations, including those without professional degrees in anthropology or archeology, to pursue their hunches! It is between them and their patrons whether it is felt the hunches have enough merit to actually fund an expedition and excavation. Sometimes, such as in the case of Howard Carter and his patron Lord Carnavon, they are lucky! At the end when they almost gave up, they discovered King Tut's Tomb! Then there was the case of Hiram Bingham, a historian, who discovered the Lost City of the Incas, Machu Picchu, in Peru. It is the glorious old tradition of the adventurer following his hunches and his dreams - and sometimes, indeed, it does pan out....for the historians, the archeologists, AND the investors!! The first written record of Atlantis is in the writings of Plato in the Timaeus written before the birth of Christ. In this book Plato described the fabled lost city, apparently based upon an interview with Egyptian Priests. People have been looking for Atlantis everywhere from in the Mediterranean to the Canary Islands and beyond. The characteristic layout of the City, according to Plato was concentric rings. The current focus on the swamp in Spain is upon SOMETHING with a similar design, apparently - and also that, according to those involved in the project, there are other cities in the region that seem to mimic that design. Dr. Rainer Kuehne who is at the heart of this quest does believe it may be Atlantis and has many articles written on the subject. Turns out someone in the establishment thought the idea had enough merit to fund an expedition!! We shall see if he, like Howard Carter and others in the past, are onto something!! I say, good luck to them. It would be fabulously interesting if there were to be discovered to be, as was the case with Troy, an historic basis for Plato's story about Atlantis! It also could have other implications, if it were discovered to be in what is now Spain given some interesting anomalies in certain people of that part of the world.

Hey, can't hurt to check it out!!

OK for those who like pictures, check out this article

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/3766863.stm

Of course people have looked for Atlantis literally all around the world

http://atlantis.haktanir.org/ch9.html

johnf
13th March 2011, 02:52
Graham Hancock as well as others have shown that there are submerged ruins pretty much all around the world.
Atlantis is probably not the only ancient civilization that has ruins out there.
I expect this is part of a string em along policy that has been picking up speed in the last couple of years.

Dennis Jonathan
13th March 2011, 02:54
Step 1. Engineered earthquakes & Hoaxed discoveries.


http://educate-yourself.org/cn/projectbluebeam25jul05.shtml

Ahkenaten
13th March 2011, 03:02
Whether the National Geographic special on Atlantis airing tomorrow is cynically capitalizing on people's naivete concerning Atlantis or whether the team looking in Southern Spain for Atlantis is exploiting sensational information and is a "hoaxed discovery" or not, I can't say, nor would I say that is necessarily a distraction or that it is misleading. This subject has fascinated people for thousands of years and I expect Atlantis will continue to fascinate for thousands more years - even after it is finally discovered. I think the story now - especially with its elements about the ancient city being decimated by a tsunami even though 60 miles inland - is especially fascinating. As an aside it also is interesting that part of Spain is very prone to massive tsunamis, having suffered one "ten stories high" in the past.

Lost Soul
13th March 2011, 03:19
It is my understanding that Atlantis was several interconnected islands with the minor ones sinking before the big one also went under. So, while this may have belong to Atlantis, it may not be only be part of the smaller island or even a sunken outpost of that once great civilization.

modwiz
13th March 2011, 03:27
I would like to point out the obvious - that Schliemann was not an expert in his field but a person with a profound hunch that he knew the location of the fabled city of Troy. If I remember the story correctly his hunch was based upon a dream he had. Turned out he was correct! It doesn't hurt at all for people of all stripes and inclinations, including those without professional degrees in anthropology or archeology, to pursue their hunches! It is between them and their patrons whether it is felt the hunches have enough merit to actually fund an expedition and excavation. Sometimes, such as in the case of Howard Carter and his patron Lord Carnavon, they are lucky! At the end when they almost gave up, they discovered King Tut's Tomb! Then there was the case of Hiram Bingham, a historian, who discovered the Lost City of the Incas, Machu Picchu, in Peru. It is the glorious old tradition of the adventurer following his hunches and his dreams - and sometimes, indeed, it does pan out....for the historians, the archeologists, AND the investors!! The first written record of Atlantis is in the writings of Plato in the Timaeus written before the birth of Christ. In this book Plato described the fabled lost city, apparently based upon an interview with Egyptian Priests. People have been looking for Atlantis everywhere from in the Mediterranean to the Canary Islands and beyond. The characteristic layout of the City, according to Plato was concentric rings. The current focus on the swamp in Spain is upon SOMETHING with a similar design, apparently - and also that, according to those involved in the project, there are other cities in the region that seem to mimic that design. Dr. Rainer Kuehne who is at the heart of this quest does believe it may be Atlantis and has many articles written on the subject. Turns out someone in the establishment thought the idea had enough merit to fund an expedition!! We shall see if he, like Howard Carter and others in the past, are onto something!! I say, good luck to them. It would be fabulously interesting if there were to be discovered to be, as was the case with Troy, an historic basis for Plato's story about Atlantis! It also could have other implications, if it were discovered to be in what is now Spain given some interesting anomalies in certain people of that part of the world.

Hey, can't hurt to check it out!!

OK for those who like pictures, check out this article

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/3766863.stm

Of course people have looked for Atlantis literally all around the world

http://atlantis.haktanir.org/ch9.html

I looked at the photos. I'm thinking it's Gondor. :thank_you2:

modwiz
13th March 2011, 03:30
Whether the National Geographic special on Atlantis airing tomorrow is cynically capitalizing on people's naivete concerning Atlantis or whether the team looking in Southern Spain for Atlantis is exploiting sensational information and is a "hoaxed discovery" or not, I can't say, nor would I say that is necessarily a distraction or that it is misleading. This subject has fascinated people for thousands of years and I expect Atlantis will continue to fascinate for thousands more years - even after it is finally discovered. I think the story now - especially with its elements about the ancient city being decimated by a tsunami even though 60 miles inland - is especially fascinating.

It's not cynical. It's brilliant marketing typical of corporations involved in every part of our lives, including "scholarly" findings.

BTW Ahkie, your efforts here are appreciated. Keepin' it real is to keep a proper perspective.

Ahkenaten
13th March 2011, 03:35
It's certainly a stretch but the Basques are a very interesting group in Spain, especially genetically. Also if one looks into their history, they called one group of people living in their area "the Egyptians." The root source of their language is unknown. Although at present the Basques live predominantly in the North of Spain, who knows where they came from in the ancient past? It is possible, and this is totally 100% hypothetical and as far as I know, no one has said anything about this - that they are the descendants of the Atlanteans.

modwiz
13th March 2011, 03:51
It's certainly a stretch but the Basques are a very interesting group in Spain, especially genetically. Also if one looks into their history, they called one group of people living in their area "the Egyptians." The root source of their language is unknown. Although at present the Basques live predominantly in the North of Spain, who knows where they came from in the ancient past? It is possible, and this is totally 100% hypothetical and as far as I know, no one has said anything about this - that they are the descendants of the Atlanteans.

You have my complete support there Ahk. I believe the Basques are related to the Atlanteans in a strong genetic and linguistic way

tkh123186
13th March 2011, 17:38
A new national geographic special called "Finding Atlantis" premieres tonight!

http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/03/12/us-tsunami-atlantis-idUSTRE72B2JR20110312

Limor Wolf
13th March 2011, 18:24
How big was Atlantis? there are many locations (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Location_hypotheses_of_Atlantis) suggested already.i wonder what are the findings The national geographic intend to unveile today,as was mentioned in the article linked above, please keep us posted tkh123186 for Those new revelations if you hear anything else.. not much can survive 12,000 (aprox.) so whatever their findings are it should be interesting.

one thing for sure,Atlantis is always a fascinating subject.

tkh123186
13th March 2011, 18:33
one thing for sure,Atlantis is always a fascinating subject.

No doubt, can't wait to watch it tonight... should definitely be interesting... or it could be totally bunk but I don't think thats the case.

gigawatt
14th March 2011, 10:33
Found this article this morning. It does have some weight.



An international team of researchers -including three Canadian scientists who specialize in imaging buried ruins -says it may have discovered the site of the fabled lost city of Atlantis in the remote marshlands of southwest Spain.


View article here:

http://www.vancouversun.com/Evidence+mounting+lost+city+Atlantis+have+been+fou nd/4434632/story.html

conk
14th March 2011, 14:56
Just yet another lost city under the sea. So many have been found. I'd like to see the one around Cuba explored. Pyramid and all!

Dale
14th March 2011, 15:16
An interesting article, but I am unsure if this is the "Atlantis" as described by Plato.

I feel there were many civilizations that have since been wept beneath the sands of time, leaving little in their wake, possibly making the story of "Atlantis" an allegorical representation of their existence. Might this be closer to what Plato described in his original account of the Kingdom of Poseidon, or "Atlantis?"

It's probably impossible to truly know, though we are all likely in agreement that many civilizations developed and collapsed before the dawning of modern history's account of Sumer.

The One
14th March 2011, 15:23
Atlantis has been 'discovered' many times in the past. In 1997, Russian scientists claimed to have found it 100 miles off Land's End

Has the real lost city of Atlantis finally been found...buried under mud flats in Spain Scientists are convinced that Atlantis is submerged just north of Cadiz

http://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&source=news&cd=1&ved=0CCoQqQIwAA&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.dailymail.co.uk%2Fsciencetech %2Farticle-1365824%2FHas-real-lost-city-Atlantis-finally--buried-mud-flats-Spain.html%3FITO%3D1490&ei=5zF-TdCxO8KKhQfF39j7Bg&usg=AFQjCNHI-H6jTHtj014hOSZV3IH4wk4kig

Steph
14th March 2011, 18:17
Hello all,

I have merged tkh123186's and gigawatt's two threads, it's a great topic and would be a shame if further discussion were to be lost.

UPDATE: Please note that Akenaten's thread titled; Researchers Announce Discovery of Site of Fabled City of Atlantis has now also been merged at his request.

Kind regards

Steph

neptuneforce
15th March 2011, 11:45
Ever heard of the Ica Stones?

tkh123186
15th March 2011, 11:58
Ever heard of the Ica Stones?

Yes, Ica Stones have always fascinated me, do they relate to Atlantis in some way?

conk
16th March 2011, 18:12
The NG show was extremely interesting. They made a very good case for this location being the real Atlantis, or at least as described by Plato. Lots of physical evidence to support the theory.

Maria Stade
20th March 2011, 08:06
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-1365824/Has-real-lost-city-Atlantis-finally--buried-mud-flats-Spain.html

Lost Soul
20th March 2011, 23:41
Atlantis was supposedly huge before it broke up and became several islands. Those islands eventually sank too. That one part of Atlantis should be found in the Carribean and another part off the coast of Africa and yet another in the marshlands of Spain does not surprise me.