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Ruis
28th April 2010, 23:10
Is it right to subject people to subliminal messages/images without consent?

When a person buys a self hypnosis CD or DVD, there is a warning that it should not be used by persons suffering from depression or personality disorders. And yet subliminal images/messages are used with no warning to the general public in everyday media.

The following links show that subliminal images have effect.

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People can perceive subliminal messages, particularly if the message is negative, according to a UK study….the study was funded by the Wellcome Trust.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/8274773.stm


…researchers say that their studies indicate that, in general, subliminal messages -- that is, messages that are processed by our brains but never reach our consciousness -- do indeed influence explicit attitudes and real-life political behaviour, a significant extension to what we know about the effects of non-conscious processes.
The studies, led by cognitive scientist Dr. Ran Hassin of the Hebrew University of Jerusalem Psychology Department, show that the subliminal presentation of a national symbol affects not only political attitudes, but also voting intentions and actual voting in general elections
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2007/12/071227183859.htm


Teens Half As Likely To Smoke If They Are Wise To Subliminal Messages In Cigarette Ads….University of Pittsburgh School of Medicine study indicates.
http://www.emaxhealth.com/22/7777.html

Of course there are sceptics. [
QUOTE]But marketing psychologist, Paul Buckley, of the Cardiff School of Management, said there was no evidence that subliminal messages work in the real world: "From a practical point of view this probably doesn't reflect what would happen in real life.
http://www.skepdic.com/subliminal.html sceptical

But studies keep coming up with this:

Now, researchers say it is becoming clearer that the rumours might have a kernel of truth: so-called subliminal messages can in fact affect our brains. Moreover, these hidden messages activate the same brain areas as do overt messages of the same nature.
http://www.world-science.net/othernews/050516_sublimfrm.htm


Science Daily (Mar. 9, 2007) — University College London researchers have found the first physiological evidence that invisible subliminal images do attract the brain's attention on a subconscious level. The wider implication for the study, published in Current Biology, is that techniques such as subliminal advertising, now banned in the UK but still legal in the USA, certainly do leave their mark on the brain.
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2007/03/070308121938.htm

Kemp-Wheeler, S.M. and Hill, A.B. Anxiety Responses to Subliminal Experience of Mild Stress. British Journal of Psychology, 1987, 78, 365-374.

concluded that manifest anxiety and some features of anxiety …can be induced by subliminal experience of mild stress. (p. 365).
http://www.deeptrancenow.com/subliminal_messages.htm

Even in the games we play:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TMRDGAnokZo


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uDx3oIEMpkk


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RlUaGsau53o&feature=related

As well as mental health issues there is also the question of informed consent. When you rent or buy a game/film/music media there is usually a certificate rating. This will tell you the consumer the age range deemed suitable, it may also tell you if strong language, sex or nudity or violence is contained.

Not all unconscious viewing is hidden, after it’s not like kids get sex…is it?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lA--60mJths

Some things are just too cute to be true (urggh ) (sorry couldn't get the pic to show)

http://www.pinkstinks.co.uk/campaign_name_shame.php
We are living in a culturally induced coma.

I propose that we find away to either stop subliminal images/sounds/messages or make it an obligation to state the presence and nature of such content.

morguana
29th April 2010, 11:15
exellent thread ruis, really informative, will take a longer look in a while. the use of subliminals runs very very deep, and folk arent aware sadly of how they effect us emotionally
love to you, looking forward to weekend
m xxxxx

K626
29th April 2010, 11:25
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=11k5_e9JfFw&feature=player_embedded#!

Indigo
29th April 2010, 14:15
Sometimes I'm glad I live in the UK, where subliminal messages have been banned from TV advertising. Not that I have a tv anyway these days, but still .....

I agree, subliminal messages are bad news, and potentially dangerous, especially, it occurs to me, to mental health. If our behaviour is being 'managed' by subliminal messages, it can take us away from our true-self actions, dividing the mind and potentially resulting in serious mental health problems.

K626
29th April 2010, 14:18
Sometimes I'm glad I live in the UK, where subliminal messages have been banned from TV advertising. Not that I have a tv anyway these days, but still .....

I agree, subliminal messages are bad news, and potentially dangerous, especially, it occurs to me, to mental health. If our behaviour is being 'managed' by subliminal messages, it can take us away from our true-self actions, dividing the mind and potentially resulting in serious mental health problems.

You also might wanna keep an eye on those advertising billboards, especially the ones that are smiling at you. :p:eek:

Indigo
29th April 2010, 14:55
Ah K626, again I am lucky there. I don't go out much, and out of my little town less. To my knowledge there are no billboards in my town, and when I'm out of my town I'm too busy watching the road to notice any billboards I pass. :-)

Oh, my life is so blessed ;-)

alke
29th April 2010, 17:06
a great song "In the Words (of Satan) _ The Arrows....

http://http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jK83dT9KxKg&feature=player_embedded

Ruis
30th April 2010, 22:29
I went onto the Xbox360 site, and nowhere in the forum is the issue of subliminal messages raised or confronted. This is odd as Halo,and it's spin offs are for the Xbox.

Ruis
30th April 2010, 22:34
Ah K626, again I am lucky there. I don't go out much, and out of my little town less. To my knowledge there are no billboards in my town, and when I'm out of my town I'm too busy watching the road to notice any billboards I pass. :-)

Oh, my life is so blessed ;-)

The problem is your not supposed to notice. Its all taken in anyway

Indigo
1st May 2010, 11:23
Very true Ruis, but if you don't even look at them, then the info's not going in, surely?

Ross
3rd May 2010, 10:10
excellent thread thanks...be under no illusions...subliminals are everywhere, Im highly suspect...

Peace

morguana
4th May 2010, 10:39
I went onto the Xbox360 site, and nowhere in the forum is the issue of subliminal messages raised or confronted. This is odd as Halo,and it's spin offs are for the Xbox.

it would be interesting to post some of these clips on that forum, to see what feed back you get

xbusymom
9th May 2010, 04:34
Here is a very well presented video showing how pervasive it is...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yous90Cz33s

I got my son aware of this stuff and he found subliminals in Harry Potter, lots of magazines, and other music videos, even on a 'message' T-shirt from his school...

Swami
17th May 2010, 20:24
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jqALdkTArqs

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=itrhEbJZBVA