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viking
21st March 2011, 11:03
Al-Qaeda doens't exist!! So who's ramping up the trouble?? CIA?? Why?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cd4tR0agNOU&feature=player_embedded#at=36

viking

avid
21st March 2011, 12:10
I have no doubt the 'Al CIAda' was involved, and didn't Israel hire 50,000 African Mercenaries to go into Libya? Who supplied the arms to these upstarts, I heard that some came through Egypt.... The 'revolution' in Egypt was fomented by Zebignew Brzezinski and George Soros - funded groups who train 'revolutionaries'.

Libya is financially independent from the IMF - no debt, no poverty, a superb agricultural feed from their innovative aquifer system. Therefore they cannot be 'controlled' by the globalists. These swines want Libya's oil, as he wants to sell directly to Russia and China without going through the oil corps.

Truly, this is a media-controlled Zionist/globalist set-up and it stinks.

Here is another opinion similar to mine:
http://smokingmirrors.blogspot.com/2011/03/one-of-darkest-evils-world-has-ever.html

How dare we just barge into other sovereign states on a media whim....?
I am ashamed to be British and have no support for globalistically biased leadership in our country. They say one thing and do the opposite. We are paying for their cabalistic machinations.

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majapahit
21st March 2011, 12:19
Webster Griffin Tarpley explains it
http://TARPLEY.net

find an audio interview with him (alex jones / coast to coast am)
and he tells it all including the last 50 years history of it

p.s. Tarpley is a classicist
his solutions are also classicist; build infrastructure, build industry
he doest like the 'twitter' generation 'nihilists'

ah, well

avid
21st March 2011, 12:34
For goodness' sake - more 'date-related' madness.....:angry:


Few people know but Minerva is the Roman Goddess of War and her birthday falls on March 19...what a 'coincidence'...


Purim ALSO Falls On March 19

Regarding the post on your site about the action against Libya starting on Minerva's birthday, it may be more, er, "illuminating," to recall that March 19 is also the Jewish holiday Purim.

The United States invaded Iraq on March 19, 2003, which that year was the holy "Day of Purim" in the Jewish calendar. This "Day of Purim" is a day the Jews celebrate their victory over Ancient Babylon, now based within the borders of Iraq. How interesting.

What is also significant is that the previous U.S. led invasion of Iraq ended on the Day of Purim ten years earlier with the massacre of 150,000 fleeing Iraqis under George H. W. Bush.

(This was the so-called "Highway of Death" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Highway_of_Death )

Purim is also the time when the Jews are encouraged to get bloody revenge against their perceived enemies.

In 1994 on Purim, the Israeli "settler" Baruch Goldstein gunned down 30 Palestinians praying in a mosque in what is now known as the Cave of the Patriarchs massacre.

http://www.rense.com/general93/dke1.htm

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chelmostef
21st March 2011, 12:40
I posted this in another thread but thought I might as well put in he too, if the mods want to delete this fine :)

Arm both sides watch them fight for a bit then come to rescue as humanitarians while at the same time bombing civilians and smudging UN charters.


The United Nations Charter strictly limits Chapter 7 military actions to threats to international peace and security, which Libya has never represented, but rules out interference in internal affairs of member states. The pretext cited in this case was the protection of defenseless civilians, but it is clear that the rebels constitute an armed military force in their own right. Since no state can be an aggressor on its own territory, the Security Council resolution stands in flagrant violation of the UN Charter. Russia, China, Brazil, Germany, and India abstained. The resolution contains an arms embargo against Libya which the US is already violating by arming the rebels through EgyptIts simply a case of an age old tried and tested trick that allows the pludder of your terrotory by arming both sides then come to resuce. That is not what the UN charter is for..

source-http://tarpley.net/2011/03/19/obamas-bay-of-pigs-in-libya/


Who armed Gaddafi?


The EU granted export licenses for 834.5m worth of arms exports in the first five years after the arms embargo was lifted in October 2004 (Edit to add - Linked Tony The Peace Envoy Blairs tent trip securing 13 billion oil deal see article below)
2009 is the highest amount ever: 343.7m
Italy is the top exporter, with 276.7m over the five years
The UK got off to a big start in 2005, with 58.9m of the 72.2m total. UK licenses over the five years are worth 119.35m
Malta saw some 79.7m of guns go through the Island en route to Libya in 2009 apparently sold via an Italian company.
The top European suppliers since 2005 were:

Italy (276.7)
France (210.15)
UK (119.35)
Germany (83.48)

source-http://matthewismail.wordpress.com/2011/03/19/qaddafis-weapons-where-did-he-get-them/


In the article below its alluded to being so good Gaddafi giving up his weapons. What it does not say is he traded them in for new ones in return for oil thanks to Tony The Peace Envoy Blair.

Officials travelling with Mr Blair said the oil firm had signed a 450 million agreement, with the prospect of 17 wells being drilled. They added that if all this exploration reached its full potential the deal could be worth 13 billion.
Mr Blair sees Libya as one of the key foreign policy successes of his premiership.
Yeah I bet it does, you sell us oil and we sell you weapons and bombs..
source-http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/1553044/Blair-Gaddafi-and-the-BP-oil-deal.html


And who armed the rebels?


The rebel region of Cerenaica has long been the scene of Moslem brotherhood agitation against Qaddafi, much of it fomented from across the Egyptian border with US assistance. After the failed 1995 assassination attempt against the Libyan leader reported by MI-5 defector David Shayler (for which MI-6 paid 100,000 to an al Qaeda subsidiary), eastern Libya was the scene of a protracted Islamist insurrection. In the wake of events in Tunisia and Egypt, it has become clear that the CIA has stipulated a worldwide alliance against existing Arab governments with the reactionary and oligarchical Muslim brotherhood, which was created by British intelligence in Egypt in the late 1920s. Al Qaeda of the Islamic Maghreb (AQIM), another CIA front, is trumpeting full support for the rebels on its website.

source- http://tarpley.net/2011/03/19/obamas-bay-of-pigs-in-libya/

So in fact they have armed Qaddafi then armed the rebels, then bombed them with weapons all from they same countries... It's complete kleptocratic corruption. White washed over with UN resolutions.

The video below is quite apt


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iLrLgOVHT8E

Davidallany
21st March 2011, 12:59
It has become more and more ridiculous, with Europe and the US going guns blazing wherever they want saying that it's the united nations wish. The only united nations is the secret society and it's affiliates. But who really knows why "they" want to eliminate most of the Arab regimes ? I don't see a pattern. Mubarak was "their" strong ally in the Arab world yet they had him removed. So it's puzzling.

HURRITT ENYETO
21st March 2011, 13:03
Al-Qaeda doens't exist!! So who's ramping up the trouble?? CIA?? Why?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cd4tR0agNOU&feature=player_embedded#at=36

I noticed at 10.47 one of the 'poorly armed rebels' is carrying a brand spanking new P90 assault rifle,
I wonder where they got those.

The One
21st March 2011, 13:06
http://cryptome.org/info/libya-fight/libya-fight-03.htm

avid
21st March 2011, 13:10
Fascinating video about proof of wars being planned years ago, and more info on the date 19th Minerva's birthday, and it's links to Freemasonry.....

http://www.youtube.com/user/kevin604bc#p/a/u/0/9eSb-EpL4fY

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tkh123186
21st March 2011, 13:22
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OY-_JsNrxiM - Farrakhan advises Obama on Libya.

http://www.cnn.com/video/?/video/world/2011/03/20/lok.robertson.gadhafi.compound.cnn - Gaddhafi Supporter In Tripoli: "We believe they(Americans) are trying to terrorize people and trying to weaken our spirits"

http://www.thelibertyunderground.net/2011/03/did-msnbc-cut-off-their-reporter-when.html - Did MSNBC cut off their Reporter when he begins to report the Civilian Deaths in Libya due to US air strikes? (@3:00)

http://revolutionarypolitics.tv/video/viewVideo.php?video_id=14365&title=gaddafi-s-known-chemical-weapons - Here We Go Again: "Gaddafi's KNOWN Chemical Weapons"

http://af.reuters.com/article/egyptNews/idAFLDE72H0N120110318 - Egypt arming Libya rebels, Wall Street Journal reports

http://www.metro.co.uk/news/858091-britain-may-arm-libyan-rebels-says-william-hague - Britain may arm Libya Rebels


It is obvious to me that this is a false flag coup to overthrow the country and push the Israeli Zionist agenda even further in order to provoke Iran to strike first causing an all out World War against Zionist / Palestinian regimes.... in my mind its like a bully instigating you to strike first so he can for lack of a better work **** your world up.

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It has become more and more ridiculous, with Europe and the US going guns blazing wherever they want saying that it's the united nations wish. The only united nations is the secret society and it's affiliates. But who really knows why "they" want to eliminate most of the Arab regimes ? I don't see a pattern. Mubarak was "their" strong ally in the Arab world yet they had him removed. So it's puzzling.

Mubarak was the only thing keeping Iran from escalating the situation further. With him removed from power did you see how long it took for Iran to move there warships through the Suez Canal? Shortly after they moved through the canal Israeli warships seized the warship and all of the weapons on it saying that they were for rebels etc... all of this has to do with the Israeli/Palestinian conflict that has been going on in that land for ages.

Davidallany
21st March 2011, 13:35
I dare say that Qaddafi is already a goner. It's just a matter of time before the inevitable happens. US and Europe made sure of it.

chelmostef
21st March 2011, 13:42
It has become more and more ridiculous, with Europe and the US going guns blazing wherever they want saying that it's the united nations wish. The only united nations is the secret society and it's affiliates. But who really knows why "they" want to eliminate most of the Arab regimes ? I don't see a pattern. Mubarak was "their" strong ally in the Arab world yet they had him removed. So it's puzzling.

For me it seems quite clear in Mubaraks case. I think if they could have kept him there they would. So IMO was damage limitation and still is. The military is in charge there right now so they have come a long way but the still have to change the constitution to one for the people.. The Imperialists still have their hand in there they are just playing a longer game of tennis in the fact of policies being hit back and forth between the people and the heads of the Military which have the Imperialist best interests at heart.

Gaddafi is a lot more confusing with what is going on but it seems that is a simple case of arming Gaddafi then arming the rebels then save the day... I also have a suspicion that he knows to much and they are relishing the chance to silence him.

What does he know to much about is the question from me.. I have a suspicion he knows to much about the lockerbie bombing but that is a guess.
Was the lockerbie bombing just another false flag and this is them seizing the moment I wonder...

Edit to add- I really hope they do not kill him.

tkh123186
21st March 2011, 13:49
It has become more and more ridiculous, with Europe and the US going guns blazing wherever they want saying that it's the united nations wish. The only united nations is the secret society and it's affiliates. But who really knows why "they" want to eliminate most of the Arab regimes ? I don't see a pattern. Mubarak was "their" strong ally in the Arab world yet they had him removed. So it's puzzling.

For me it seems quite clear in Mubaraks case. I think if they could have kept him there they would so IMO was damage limitation and still is. The military is in charge there right now so they have come a long way but the still have to change the constitution to one for the people.. The Imperialists still have their hand in there they are just playing a longer game of tennis in the fact of policies being hit back and forth between the people and the heads of the Military which have the Imperialist best interests at heart.

Gaddafi is a lot more confusing with what is going on but it seems that is a simple case of arming Gaddafi then arming the rebels then save the day... I also have a suspicion that he knows to much and they are relishing the chance to silence him.

What does he know to much about is the question from me.. I have a suspicion he knows to much about the lockerbie bombing but that is a guess.
Was the lockerbie bombing just another false flag and this is them seizing the moment I wonder...

Gaddafi knows that this is a false flag coup in his own country and the rest of Tripoli knows it as well. I highly doubt that Gaddafi is crazy and is killing all his own people. What seems more likely to me is that Mercenaries are called in to Benghazi to smash the "rebels" which were supplied with support and weapons from TPTB. Its a classic case of Wag The Dog... supply both sides with arms and then come through and get mercenaries to kill the rebellion and then blame it on the crazy and insane Gaddafi... With that said they must silence Gaddafi before he can sound like a rational man with others to back up his claims such as Hugo Chavez (who also thinks we created the Haiti earthquake) and other countries such as Bahrain and Yemen... In my mind its not about us being humanitarians, its about us wanting to take over Palestine.

Davidallany
21st March 2011, 13:56
Of course it's the Imperialist who is behind it. I am sorry if I offended the good folks in Europe and the US, and thank you for making this point.

OmeyocaN777
21st March 2011, 13:58
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aL_KxtYZCRw

U.S. General Wesley Clark (Ret.), explains that the Bush Administration planned to take out 7 countries in 5 years: Iraq, Syria, Lebanon, Libya, Somalia, Sudan, Iran (2007 upto 2012)

Calz
21st March 2011, 13:59
Many good ideas here ... unlike the "old days" when the PTB/W could operate behind the curtain.

I would hazard to guess that this *might be* simply another piece of the ramping up of "chaos" that has long been promised.

Look around at what has transpired the last few weeks.

Things sure have the appearance that "they" have entered their "endgame" in which case the normally accurate "follow the money" may no longer apply. For example, funding both sides in a war to make profit, might now be simply doing what it takes to raise the *chaos* of these times?

"They" want as many worldwide with as low of vibration as possible and seem to be going around the globe inducing such by whatever means works in that particular area.

chelmostef
21st March 2011, 14:13
This to me is the war against humanity and its happening right now. They have armed both sides, its a money spinner with the end game control and population reduction in to boot it not just about Libyans or egyptians this a fight against humanity.

These corrupt kleptocrats are like a mad dog backed being into a corner, now they are lashing out... We can stop this. The dog needs to know who the is boss.

bluestflame
21st March 2011, 14:21
there we go , the anglo saxon agenda comes up again "while they're in the neighbourhood"

OmeyocaN777
21st March 2011, 14:29
As i said in my previous posts, fighting the NWO is not the answer - will bring destruction.
Doing nothing is the same - live the NWO doing their thing(more destruction).
The only option as i see it, is to WAKE thEM UP.(give them Love/try to make them "remember")
WE are All in the same side folks.

Etherios
21st March 2011, 14:29
So in other words The New World Government aka "UN" orders its members to attack in the name of freedom and peace. Simple as that guys, we see before our very eyes the start of a new World War and the target is everyone that is against their plans.

UN decides (ofc all guided by ... you know) - UN members obey. Sad times ahead ...

OmeyocaN777
21st March 2011, 15:05
ONE World Government is not a bad thing - is the natural consequence of (spirit)evolution.
The "intent" is the "key-word".
They must understand that what is good for us - is good for them also.

"εν το παν και δι ́ αυτού το παν και εις αυτό το παν"
"Εverything is one and consolidated"

Calz
21st March 2011, 16:31
One world government is not bad *PROVIDED* fair representation of said one world is what selects it.

If it is selected (as normal in the past how many hundreds/thousand years) by the 1% then it is only more of the same.

OmeyocaN777
21st March 2011, 16:46
The problem is not the 1%, the problem is that this 1% is still "sleeping"(false intent-ego).

.......Plato says reason and wisdom should govern. As Plato puts it:
"Until philosophers rule as kings or those who are now called kings and leading men genuinely and adequately philosophise, that is, until political power and philosophy entirely coincide, while the many natures who at present pursue either one exclusively are forcibly prevented from doing so, cities will have no rest from evils,... nor, I think, will the human race." (Republic 473c-d)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plato

Sabrina
21st March 2011, 17:54
http://www.bloggingstocks.com/2011/02/23/unrest-in-libya-could-jeopardize-bp-exploration-deal/

The opposite one might imagine...