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Icecold
22nd March 2011, 18:42
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4XF3z9UXhT0&feature=related





http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=evE6aLg-_Q8

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tOmsl9OytlQ&feature=related



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cEaXJ-Uh6SI&feature=related

MargueriteBee
22nd March 2011, 18:44
Do you have a link?

Icecold
22nd March 2011, 18:44
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vOn1kffri78&feature=related



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ag_X4_vYFDs&feature=related



http://deoxy.org/media/Hidden_Knowledge_in_Old_Norse_Myths

Icecold
22nd March 2011, 18:49
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1S7b1eDTnK8&feature=fvwrel



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xagMYiZ2NP0&feature=related

Icecold
22nd March 2011, 18:53
Well thank you too. Marg.....sheeesh.

jorr lundstrom
22nd March 2011, 21:13
Hi Ice, this guy Snorre Sturlason was a christian bishop. When he rewrote Eddan he had a task

from the church to write it in a way so it would benefit the church. And he sure did. He decreased

Freya from a very powerful lady to an impotent bimbo. He also created the opposition between

good and evil, to suite the idea that Im good and the other evil. To ceate tensions among people.

Its just politics. I have for some days thought about writing a story about the Valknot.

I have written it before on an other forum, but I may do it again.

And then the question, who on PA is interested in a subject like this?

Maybye a handful, but who cares. I have for some days witnessed

some wannabes, wordmagicans. And they are not even skilled in that

art. So lets see wot this subject is all about. Love;)

ROMANWKT
22nd March 2011, 21:28
Thank you Icecold, I found her informative and very entertaining, she is very awake on translation.very interesting.

And as one dog to another AAAWWWOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

HURRITT ENYETO
22nd March 2011, 21:32
He decreased

Freya from a very powerful lady to an impotent bimbo

Sounds familiar doesn't it :)

modwiz
22nd March 2011, 21:40
Hi Ice, this guy Snorre Sturlason was a christian bishop. When he rewrote Eddan he had a task

from the church to write it in a way so it would benefit the church. And he sure did. He decreased

Freya from a very powerful lady to an impotent bimbo. He also created the opposition between

good and evil, to suite the idea that Im good and the other evil. To ceate tensions among people.

Its just politics. I have for some days thought about writing a story about the Valknot.

I have written it before on an other forum, but I may do it again.

And then the question, who on PA is interested in a subject like this?

Maybye a handful, but who cares. I have for some days witnessed

some wannabes, wordmagicans. And they are not even skilled in that

art. So lets see wot this subject is all about. Love;)

OK (raises hand) I'd be interested in a look at the Aesir and/or Vanir from a non-christian perspective.

Lettherebelight
22nd March 2011, 23:23
Some interesting theories here, I would agree that many myths can be interpreted in an allegorical way.

however...

In reference to the video in which the lady compares old Norse myths to the Mahabharata, I must wholeheartedly disagree with her statement that most learned people of India accept Draupadi to be 'a metaphor for the mind'. This is a very incorrect assumption. I would not expect to hear this from someone who has studied the Vedas, even cursorily.

Furthermore, they (most learned people of India, ie Brahmanas, yogis, etc.) would hardly regard the Mahabharata as a 'myth' in the first place. It is regarded as part of their history: Maha-- great, Bharata--Bharata-Varsha (Indian subcontinent).

This discrepency in understanding leads me to question all other statements made, no offense intended. l am keen on old scandinavian culture, particularly the Sagas, so I am sincerely interested..not just fault finding.

So I will have to approach this material wearing my 'skeptacles'!

To give credit where it is due, however, the lady looks good on video. They could have cast her in the new movie out this spring 'Thor'.:nod:

JOddp-nlNvQ

TimelessDimensions
23rd March 2011, 06:41
Thor, Zeus and Jehovah had a lot in common.

Dennis Jonathan
23rd March 2011, 20:11
Very interesting stuff. Thanks Ice. Watched all the videos, subscribed to the 3 from the OP.

(b ^^)b

Thumbs up :).

Icecold
24th March 2011, 06:25
Some interesting theories here, I would agree that many myths can be interpreted in an allegorical way.

however...

In reference to the video in which the lady compares old Norse myths to the Mahabharata, I must wholeheartedly disagree with her statement that most learned people of India accept Draupadi to be 'a metaphor for the mind'. This is a very incorrect assumption. I would not expect to hear this from someone who has studied the Vedas, even cursorily.

Furthermore, they (most learned people of India, ie Brahmanas, yogis, etc.) would hardly regard the Mahabharata as a 'myth' in the first place. It is regarded as part of their history: Maha-- great, Bharata--Bharata-Varsha (Indian subcontinent).

This discrepency in understanding leads me to question all other statements made, no offense intended. l am keen on old scandinavian culture, particularly the Sagas, so I am sincerely interested..not just fault finding.

So I will have to approach this material wearing my 'skeptacles'!

As a student of the Vedas, I would agree with some of your assumptions.

[QUOTE]Furthermore, they (most learned people of India, ie Brahmanas, yogis, etc.) would hardly regard the Mahabharata as a 'myth' in the first place. It is regarded as part of their history: Maha-- great, Bharata--Bharata-Varsha (Indian subcontinent).

That is true, as far as it can be said..... though this is the same perception that all religious leaders have for their sacred texts.


that most learned people of India accept Draupadi to be 'a metaphor for the mind'.

Here is what the VID maker may have thought.....

Draupadi as you know, managed five husbands.... this could be seen as a metaphor. It is the five sense organs and your mind. Mind manages the five sense organs. See?

I think this is what she meant.

Whether it is a very incorrect assumption?????

It is certainly stretching a long bow. :)

jorr lundstrom
25th March 2011, 22:33
Thor, Zeus and Jehovah had a lot in common.

Yes, it seems they have the same positions in the different panthenons.

But I want to juggle with some other ideas for now. I think it is a great difference

between seeing these forces as some kind of personalities that demands special

attention like sacrificies in different forms like blood, meat, lifes, fruit, incense or

sufferings or fearfilled fields or wotsoever and just unpersonal forces, that can be

handled and utilised in ones endavours to find out wots the universe is all about.

Humanity has given energy to those forces for many thousands of years and I

think its about time to end this habit. :ranger:

13th Warrior
25th March 2011, 22:50
Hi Ice, this guy Snorre Sturlason was a christian bishop. When he rewrote Eddan he had a task

from the church to write it in a way so it would benefit the church. And he sure did. He decreased

Freya from a very powerful lady to an impotent bimbo. He also created the opposition between

good and evil, to suite the idea that Im good and the other evil. To ceate tensions among people.

Its just politics. I have for some days thought about writing a story about the Valknot.

I have written it before on an other forum, but I may do it again.

And then the question, who on PA is interested in a subject like this?

Maybye a handful, but who cares. I have for some days witnessed

some wannabes, wordmagicans. And they are not even skilled in that

art. So lets see wot this subject is all about. Love;)

I am interested, count me in for a listen.

Rocky_Shorz
25th March 2011, 22:57
Tusentuk...

I'm interested in hearing more and if the stories changed once the Templars joined the Vikings in the 1300s...

Hawkwind
25th March 2011, 23:57
And then the question, who on PA is interested in a subject like this?

*jumps up waving hand frantically* Meeeeee!

Thanks for posting these here, Icecold. Great stuff.

Dionysus
26th March 2011, 09:46
Tusentuk...

I'm interested in hearing more and if the stories changed once the Templars joined the Vikings in the 1300s...

The Templars joined the Vikings? Could you elaborate please?

Icecold
26th March 2011, 13:46
OK Jorr,

what are your thoughts brother?

Would you be inclined to accept the beings in these stories as representations of various energies
which are at work in the universe?

noxon medem
26th March 2011, 14:23
.....
Ok, OP .
- the thread seem to call for this posting
(BTW: I do not subscribe to any gods) :

6461

- this is stricktly humour,
so please take no offence.
....

Rocky_Shorz
26th March 2011, 20:07
Tusentuk...

I'm interested in hearing more and if the stories changed once the Templars joined the Vikings in the 1300s...

The Templars joined the Vikings? Could you elaborate please?

The Templars joined the Vikings in a voyage to MN in the mid to late 1300s, they left the Runestone (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?9584-Swedes-brought-Templars-to-MN-to-hide-ancient-treasures-in-1342...) as a Marker of claim to America heartland...

Dionysus
26th March 2011, 21:03
I have so far watched the first 6 of her YouTube videos. I think she is quite correct in her interpretation. Just about everything she say rings true for me. Myth is metaphor, and must be decoded that way to make any sense of it.


The Templars joined the Vikings in a voyage to MN in the mid to late 1300s, they left the Runestone (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?9584-Swedes-brought-Templars-to-MN-to-hide-ancient-treasures-in-1342...) as a Marker of claim to America heartland...

It sounds like there is an interesting story there. I have heard some references to such things, but have never looked into it. I'll have to add this to my ever increasing list of things to research further.

Dionysus
26th March 2011, 21:12
Noxon Medem, I haven't had a laugh that good in a while! Thanks for the humour.

jorr lundstrom
26th March 2011, 21:22
OK Jorr,

what are your thoughts brother?

Would you be inclined to accept the beings in these stories as representations of various energies
which are at work in the universe?

Yes brother.:ranger:

Lord Sidious
27th March 2011, 07:09
This is the Havamal.
Recited by Sveinbjörn Beinteinsson



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=npbJYQXIvzY

The Norse in me resonates with this.

delfine
21st July 2011, 15:25
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vOn1kffri78&feature=related



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ag_X4_vYFDs&feature=related



http://deoxy.org/media/Hidden_Knowledge_in_Old_Norse_Myths

What an absolutely enchanting girl!