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blue777
30th April 2010, 07:58
Truth or Fiction- Test your favourite Theory ...ask any question you like and the rest of us will try and get to the truth of any particular theory........then we will ask the person if they are happy with the result

first question......
What is the LION , BULL , MAN and EAGLE , AND HOW DOES IT EFFECT AN ORDINARY PERSON?.....it will also give us an insight into how we see truth and reality in different ways .......all thoughts are valuable
lol

Teakai
1st May 2010, 07:11
Blue777, I'll give it a go.

The best I can come up with is:

Lion, bull, man and eagle are all viewed as strong and dominating forms and they may effect the ordinary person by giving them a sense of protection (or fear) depending on how they're depicted.

??????
Am I right off the intended track?

blue777
1st May 2010, 07:20
Blue777, I'll give it a go.

The best I can come up with is:

Lion, bull, man and eagle are all viewed as strong and dominating forms and they may effect the ordinary person by giving them a sense of protection (or fear) depending on how they're depicted.

??????
Am I right off the intended track?

YES you are on the right track...would you like to elaborate a bit more..............thanks

Teakai
1st May 2010, 07:27
YES you are on the right track...would you like to elaborate a bit more..............thanks

Ummmmmm,
they are used a lot in advertising to promote a sense of durability or strength or power and might.

also:
they are all figures that can be found represented in the horoscope (eagle/scorpion)

xbusymom
1st May 2010, 07:39
hmmm... let me take a swing at this...

1- they are all viewed as male leaders of different types of preditor 'pack' societies

with virtually the same theme
2- lion has his harem serving him and is very possessive with his girls, bull is an unpredictable, easily provoked bully that is in charge of the stupid herd, man is in competition for the purpose of conquest, and the eagle is viewed as (ok I give up on the eagle- no clue)

blue777
1st May 2010, 07:53
hmmm... let me take a swing at this...

1- they are all viewed as male leaders of different types of preditor 'pack' societies

with virtually the same theme
2- lion has his harem serving him and is very possessive with his girls, bull is an unpredictable, easily provoked bully that is in charge of the stupid herd, man is in competition for the purpose of conquest, and the eagle is viewed as (ok I give up on the eagle- no clue)

very interesting reply xbusy man......... quote: they are all viewed as male leaders of different types of preditor 'pack' societies
eagle may be more spiritual...soul etc....................good we have 2 different notions already.......can you have another go

blue777
1st May 2010, 08:09
Ummmmmm,
they are used a lot in advertising to promote a sense of durability or strength or power and might.

also:
they are all figures that can be found represented in the horoscope (eagle/scorpion)

Again great reply, you are on the right track...do archetypes come to mind?

Teakai
2nd May 2010, 06:59
Again great reply, you are on the right track...do archetypes come to mind?

No.

Curioser and curioser.
:D

Jacqui D
2nd May 2010, 07:19
Okay i am going to have a stab at this, these are natural shield protections of the earth one may be an imposter though a distortion.

Vidya Moksha
2nd May 2010, 07:59
No.

Curioser and curioser.
:D

They have many correspondences, often referred to as the four corners of the heavens (universe), or the cherubic angels ... they have translations into many cultures (snake, jaguar, himmingbird, eagle (condor) in south american culture)

found this..

In the “Eastern Churches” that use some form of Aramaic rather than Greek as their scriptural and liturgical language, there is a tradition that connects the Four Living Creatures of Revelation 4 with the Four Gospels of the Bible. Yet even there, the order of the Four Living Creatures is not the same as that of the Four Gospels. A recording by Esther Lamandier called Romances features an Aramaic hymn that describes the traditional connection. Here the lyrics (given in transliterated Aramaic and French in the liner notes) are translated into English:

The Eternal sits on the throne above four faces and four images:
The aspect of the lion who is Mark;
The face of the bull who is Luke;
The figure of the man who is Matthew;
The image of the eagle: John of Ephesus [the apostle John]. (…)

Whereas the Four Cherubs have their faces arrayed in this manner:

(Eze 1:10 ESV) As for the likeness of their faces, each had a human face [in front]. The four had the face of a lion on the right side, the four had the face of an ox on the left side, and the four had the face of an eagle [in back].

Interestingly, this order of faces corresponds to how the faces are assigned to the Four Gospels when the latter are taken in order.

There is another peculiarity. In antiquity, the constellations of the Lion, the Ox, the Man and the Eagle (the latter now called Scorpio the Scorpion in the West) were the four “cardinal” constellations of the Zodiac. Roughly between 4000-2000 BC (in biblical terms, the first two millennia of human civilization), the vernal equinox was in the Ox (now called Taurus the Bull). The summer solstice was in the Lion (now Leo the Lion). Moving from east to west in the sky from the position of the summer solstice (at which point the sun is the furthest north in the sky during the year), the order of the cardinal constellations was the Lion (summer solstice), the Ox (spring equinox), the Man (winter solstice), and the Eagle (autumnal equinox).

http://lcgscribe.wordpress.com/2009/09/28/the-four-cherubic-faces-and-the-four-gospels/

xbusymom
2nd May 2010, 14:50
very interesting reply xbusy man......... quote: they are all viewed as male leaders of different types of preditor 'pack' societies
eagle may be more spiritual...soul etc....................good we have 2 different notions already.......can you have another go

ok, that makes sense... but the eagle is often seen as only one... ?? meaning that the spiritual aspect is to be done alone???

or- maybe it represents that only the 'higher-ups' are able to see and prey on the ground groups??

Teakai
3rd May 2010, 02:03
What's the answer??
I really want to know the answer?


Is there an answer?:confused: