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Swami
5th May 2010, 21:12
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sNaKGZNK89c

Swami
5th May 2010, 21:17
Slave Species of god


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jKKQXjRU4Cg

Human Origins


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4bIXCwb9nAo

Michael Tellinger & Credo Mutwa


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g8QHDdegVWc

morguana
8th May 2010, 12:49
this book i am currently reading (as fast as poss as dad wants to pinch it), it is very well written and covers a lot of ground, well worth haveing a nose though in my opinion, however he does not seem to cover any new ground, but is well presented and the ideas collated are food for thought. (slave species of god, that is. my kids have the adams calender one, as it is mainly pictures)

Snowbird
9th January 2011, 02:35
There are several different paths that the people of Earth can take to vastly improve their lives and their standard of living. One of these is considered the Contribution System in which people do not work for a living and do not pay taxes and live their lives in freedom with everything that they need provided for. They pursue their passions and live in comfort with all needs and many wants, met. This isn't as foreign as it may sound. This type of lifestyle has been enjoyed by the few for hundreds of years, at the expense of the many.

This thread is in response to the call for ideas for methods and systems that will benefit humanity. I want to write that this is a suggestion that corresponds to Bill Ryan's hugely popular threads, The Rulers Of The World. However, I can't help but think that the 33 would find this contrary to what they have envisioned for this planet. From what I have surmised, the 33 have intentions of culling the population of planet Earth down to the half billion which is engraved on the Georgia Guidestones. This half billion was envisioned by the controllers eons ago, as the sustainable supportable number of inhabitants for this planet. This half billion does not include the poor, or the invalid or the aged or anyone who is not considered strong and capable and unwilling to embrace the rules and procedures of the 427 controlling bloodlines.

The Contribution System was introduced to me by a Conscious Media Network interview with Michael Tellinger. This system parallels the Venus Project to some degree. The Contribution System essentially says that there is no money. And it goes a step further to explain that money was invented many hundreds of years ago as a controlling factor. Tellinger goes on to state that not only is money done away with, but so is every form of barter and trade and value-added. Because these four represent the loopholes for controlling mechanisms. It is a type of Utopia and surprisingly enough, the 427 controlling bloodlines are living this Utopia and have been for thousands of years. These don't necessarily worry about earning a living. In some cases, their subjects support them. Many of these don't pay taxes as do their subjects. Utopia is not only a dream, but it is and has been a state of being for those in the 427 controlling bloodlines.

Contributionism does not include culling. It does not tear down. It builds up.

Think about it.

Czarek
9th January 2011, 02:42
post the job, I'll sign up.

Snowbird
9th January 2011, 03:21
post the job, I'll sign up.

Czarek, you won't have to sign up unless you want to.

The term job would become an unused and unwanted concept.

What we would do, is whatever-we-are-best at doing to serve others. If someone loves to cook and loves to see people eat and be full and a few others enjoy serving people, you open a restaurant.

If someone really knows how to repair and maintain vehicles and enjoys helping people, this is what they do.

These are not 8 to 10 hour days, unless you want them to be. Someone could spend two hours once per week cleaning someone's home because they enjoy doing it.

In short, we would "work at" those things in life that we enjoy doing that will help someone else.

I can think of a large list that would keep me busy and happy and helping others. :dirol:

l_e_cox
11th January 2011, 06:58
I'm glad you attributed this to Tellinger, as that's who I heard it from too.

When you think about it, this is a very advanced social system. If you believe some of the stories that are told in books that you can find out about on the internet (such as the Dutch book about Iarga), then this sort of system is already successfully used by other societies in this universe.

But I want to point out one great stumbling block: criminality, or criminal behavior. This problem is still rampant on our planet, and I think the concept of criminality sums up everything that is wrong here. What we need is a civilized, non-barbaric, and most importantly, workable handling for criminality.

With that in place, or even being worked on (and such handlings do exist and are being worked on), we can begin to see the light at the end of what has been a very long, dark tunnel.

The "33" are working on a "solution" that is a criminal solution. As is obvious from the most recent interview, they hire criminals to do their work for them. And they have insinuated their influence into governments, schools, churches, and business, so these institutions are likewise turning criminal. We have progressed quite far into a situation that seems impossible to get out of. But as I say, handlings do exist and are being worked on. If you look for them you can find out about them. If enough people get behind these handlings, it might even be possible to salvage the situation.

You sometimes hear stories about Golden Eras on earth. See "Gupta Empire" in Wikipedia for one such example. In such times, sufficient order is established in an area for the balance to swing over into a sustained positive scene. The most important weakness of any such regime has been the lack of sufficient technology to handle internal criminality. This leads to weakness and then takeover by external forces. For me, the key is not which system of social organization is in place. If that system were in honest well-meaning hands and could be kept that way, it would be improved and become more and more ideal. If dishonest perverts (sorry, just to make the point) are allowed to take over, then the system will be degraded, resulting in slavery and chaos.

Just to push the point home: Say you have a technology that is somewhat workable. Let's say it's a spiritual technology that a religion is based on. Criminals in the society will try to discredit or destroy this technology because that is what they think they must do to protect themselves. Honest and well-meaning people tend to not understand the criminal and can be persuaded by more intelligent ones to give up what is rightfully theirs. If guile doesn't work, there is always brute force. And thus the technology is lost.

I used the example of spiritual teachings, because this has happened to most, if not all, of them. But it can happen with more prosaic technologies. Remember how Los Angeles used to have an electric street car system? So there is a more basic "technology" that must be learned and practiced for any workable system to be maintained and improved. And that is the technology of how dishonest and degraded people are detected, kept out of important positions in the society, and eventually rehabilitated. Without such a technology well-known and in use, no permanent forward progress is possible.

Some think that the rise and fall of civilizations is the highest game this universe has to offer and that we cannot ever hope to rise out of it. In my view, such people have already began to fall under the influence of the criminal mind. I firmly believe that lasting improvements are possible, and that much higher-level games can be created and enjoyed. But it will never happen if we don't get over this first barrier. Some will insist on inventing new ways to do this. But one way has already been developed and has been in use for over 50 years. All you have to do is look for it.

l_e_cox
11th January 2011, 07:28
It should be noted that another thread was started on Contributionism, which should really be part of this one. I like the idea, but we somehow have to make it real. It is a star-high goal for a planet like ours. More pertinent now is: what is the next step to take to move us closer to such a system? And how can we prevent any good idea from being co-opted by the criminal elite?

rainbowhorse
1st March 2011, 04:18
Oh my goodness. He's saying everything I think. So... happy... :cry:

Chicodoodoo
1st March 2011, 05:20
there is a more basic "technology" that must be learned and practiced for any workable system to be maintained and improved. And that is the technology of how dishonest and degraded people are detected, kept out of important positions in the society, and eventually rehabilitated. Without such a technology well-known and in use, no permanent forward progress is possible.

But one way has already been developed and has been in use for over 50 years. All you have to do is look for it.

OK, I give up. What is it?