Message from Benjamin Fulford

[Victoria Tintagel]

Hi there, here's a short message by Benjamin Fulford, on the state of our planet, in a nutshell, but quite accurate, I think. On the news in Holland, quite some troublesome talks on how Europe is in a critical state, with Greece in turmoil and England, going through quite some government changes. Even in my country, Holland, the government has fallen apart, in march. We are without reign........... ;) except that we have a Queen and a Prince which will be King soon.

The US financial crisis is a historic opportunity for world peace
By Benjamin Fulford

The people of China and Japan now have in their hands a historic opportunity to create permanent peace on earth. The inbred clans that have been fomenting vast wars around the planet for the past several hundred years are bankrupt. If the Asians have the courage, they will demand, in exchange for agreeing to a bail-out, that the Americans and Europeans participate in negotiations to create a world government. This would not be the tyrannical New World Order long planned by the white elite. Rather it would be a government that works for the interests of the average person and life form on this planet. Such a government would be the minimum necessary to replace war with court battles and ensure equal opportunity for all humans and safety for all creatures.
We need such a government because humanity has already wiped out 30% of the species on the planet even as millions starve and wars rage. This is because the world financial system we know have acts like a giant black hole sucking money away from the poor and the weak. Simply by taking money from trillionaires who could never possibly spend it, we could put $100,000 in the hands of each person on earth.

The Chinese and Japanese now have the leverage to demand that the Americans open up their secret bases for world inspection as well as release all the technology they have hidden for their own benefit. With such technology we could make the deserts and arctic regions bloom with life even as we travel to the stars.

A world government would allow us to replenish the seas with fish and rebuild our precious eco-systems. The poor could become well-educated, well-nourished and filled with hope.

If on the other hand, the Asians agree to bail out the Nazis who have taken over the US government, they will continue with their horrific genocidal plans. They will simply continue to manufacture disease, war and starvation in order to maintain their grip on humanity.

We are at a historical moment of great import. We have reached a harmonic situation where the peoples of the world face a choice between a win-win solution and a lose-lose solution. I sure hope the Asians grab their destiny.

[truthseekerdan]

Great message :thumb: Thank you :)

Espavo ~ Dan :wub:

[Fredkc]

Well, I managed to get this far...

The people of China and Japan now have in their hands a historic opportunity to create permanent peace on earth. The inbred clans that have been fomenting vast wars around the planet for the past several hundred years are bankrupt. If the Asians have the courage, they will demand, in exchange for agreeing to a bail-out, that the Americans and Europeans participate in negotiations to create a world government. This would not be the tyrannical New World Order long planned by the white elite. Rather it would be a government that works for the interests of the average person and life form on this planet.

Sadly, the Chinese govt has no interest in "defeating" other factions for any other purpose than to replace them. You don't participate in the destruction of the west, by maintaining a 600,000 member homeless work force out of "brotherly love". They have spent the last 40 years getting this "leverage", and will cut off communications with any govt, or person who even mentions "human rights".

If you look at what they have done, globally, is exactly what the US did with their money during the 50's and 60's. the first example that comes to mind is oil.
http://fredsitelive.com/reference/chinaoil/images/20oil.gif

Since 2000 China has signed long term deals, oil for manufactured goods, or technology with everyone on that list, except the US, and Iraq. And they are working on Iraq. They are also doing the same re. food with places like Argentina, and Brazil. In fact, Brazil is now turning rain forest into farmland to satisfy those deals.

China sees all this as a "chessboard" no different from the "evil west".

Economics being what it is...
taking money from trillionaires who could never possibly spend it, we could put $100,000 in the hands of each person on earth is also a non-starter, really. It sounds really good. Sorta. The reality of it is quite different. Economics is a study of the "system of worth". Like any other "fluid system" it seeks a balance. it's "own level" per say.

Give every human on the planet $100,000 and Big Macs will wind up @ $50 ea. The term for this is "broke at a higher level". Force the price of Big Macs to remain the same, and you accomplish 3 things:
1. Big Macs will disappear. Why make something, when you can make something else for more money?
2. You'll have a black market in Big Macs, by week's end.
3. You'll have drive-by shootings between rival "Big Mac Gangs" killing each other over sales turf. (sound familiar?)

The trick isn't in dumping one evil for another. The trick is forcing things to change through how people participate.

I am always dubious about someone's definition of a "good" world government. The saying that "All politics is local." points to a larger truth, really. "All politics that work, is local!" The larger a govt body is, the more harm it does. The best example of this can be seen by looking at how things have gone for the US. the bigger the Fed has become, the worse off the avg American has become. (see also what I said about china's "big govt")

ANY govt, no matter who set it up, how, or why, is only trustworthy so long as the people it affects have their foot firmly planted on its throat. Humans have little to fear from people who know they will have to look them in the eye, the next day. Most of the evil we do to each other stems from the notion that those affected, cannot bring home what those what dunnit have wrought.

Lastly,

A world government would allow us to replenish the seas with fish and rebuild our precious eco-systems. The poor could become well-educated, well-nourished and filled with hope.If Fulford is looking to "the asians" for this, he should take a long hard look at both Japan's fishing practices, and China's environmental condition.

Personally, I think the answer lies elsewhere.

Fred

[Swanny]

Great post Fred

[Decibellistics]

Does anyone remember Tiananmen Square????????????? Not tyrannical my butt cheeks. Ditto Swanny and Fred. Consider this, if governments only spent attention to the infrastructure of their state and the technologies that could improve them we wouldn't be in this mess. Creation is much more gratifying than destruction. Also, humans would actually see a physical improvement which would heighten the morale of the population. Esoteric bailouts to banking institutions has absolutely no physical manifestation in our reality at this point. It might have worked with FDR but I doubt that now.

The presence of Chaos induces order. Think about that one for awhile.

[pyrangello]

Tintagel, if you took out the nations names and inserted them with only truly good sources I think we would all want what is being stated, however Fred pulled the substance out of the clouds with some great examples for how a role model should look like.

I believe the common person of the world wants peace love and harmony, we just need to figure out how to get there. Here is a good start .

[Snowbird]

I consider Ben Fulford's posts and interviews to hold a very small piece of the overall world picture. I don't doubt that he has many and varied worldwide sources. However, sources can and do state whatever is most convenient for their long term objectives.

Tiananmen Square happened not at all long ago, 1989. The Chinese have never been known to make grand and sweeping changes over night. Is Hu Jintao willing to step away from his presidential office in order to integrate or harmonize peaceful and lasting human rights which is defined as, "The basic rights and freedoms to which all humans are entitled, often held to include the right to life and liberty, freedom of thought and expression, and equality before the law."? It is highly doubtful.

Whenever I hear or read that an Asian or Russian or U.S. leader is working toward peace for all and a lasting solution to global war, I simply open any news source that is not of the main stream media, and read of the truth of what is.

Under current circumstances, there is simply no way that a global world order will ever be successful until every leader is willing to step down and live among and be supportive of the whole.

[Operator]

My gut feeling is increasing that some of the wonderful things said by supposedly enlightened beings are so close to one world order >> new world order that they can/will be swapped
all of a sudden resulting in the new world order in the end.

The holographic model does not need a 'single' government ... so every attempt to create one i.m.h.o. is highly suspicious !

[NancyV]

Promoting a one world government should put the final nail in the coffin for any tiny bit of credibility that Fulford might still have for anyone. Since we know he isn't stupid he has to be deliberately giving out false information/dis-info for some personal profit motive, whether for money or power through cooperation with the PTB.

With his abysmal track record of mistaken predictions I would never give the slightest consideration to his opinion on the wonderful benefits of a world government. Although his predictions and opinions are not credulous there will always be people who tend to believe him. He has apparently been serving his purposes of fomenting fear and chaos, now world peace through one world government!!!??? Amazing! Bizarre!! Laughable!!! and INSANE!!!!

Nancy :)

[Fredkc]

Nancy;
You'll notice I never really said much "against" fulford, other than, from my viewpoint, I thought him quite the dreamer. Not all a bad thing, really... but we are still "swimming amongst the sharks".

This and other reasons are why I get troubled over anyone talking "one government" (Tyranny of the majority, anyone?).

But without having read, or listened to much else by Fulford, I hasten to remind myself of an old saying:
"Never attribute to malice that which can easily be explained by ignorance."
Fulford may just be "dreaming out loud". Nice dream, but tricky to put in practice.

But if you take a simple issue like water control, the idea of "local governance" becomes the key. One place may benefit from, and really need "tight water usage control". Then again, someplace like Hawaii doesn't have any use for it. They're surrounded by the damned stuff! What they need is desalinization plants!

Toss in the 1000 other needs, and strengths ea. place in the world has, and you wind up with "one govt" that does everything poorly for everyone. ;)

I am going to go looking for the statements made by the general in charge at the time, re. Tienanmen Square. If I can't find them in a bit, I will just post the gist of the reasoning behind what they did.

Fred

[HURRITT ENYETO]

right said fred!!! :) The only time we will have world peace,clean up our planet and have fair governance is when the average human stands up to be counted and says NO MORE. Its is past time we took the power back from our so called governments and started again.

[stardustaquarion]

right said fred!!! :) The only time we will have world peace,clean up our planet and have fair governance is when the average human stands up to be counted and says NO MORE. Its is past time we took the power back from our so called governments and started again.

absolutely, who needs more fake governments we can govern ourselves, actually we normally govern ourselves quite well! We just have to invite the goverments of this world to leave as they are totally incompetent to represent us

:wave:

[Snowbird]

I have heard Fulford several times talking about a peaceful, loving and sharing world that he envisions. A peaceful , loving and sharing world would not need a government(s). The reason is obvious.:confused:

[Tuza]

Intuition is going with Fred this time; something is way off here Ben imho.

[NancyV]

Hi Fred,

I have listened to many interviews with Fulford for at least 2-3 years so I do not think he is merely a dreamer. I think he has an agenda. Whether or not it is a malicious agenda, who knows, and I do not think he is ignorant. Many things that seem to be malicious are not really if you understand the bigger picture. I don't really care if he has an agenda or not as most of us have an agenda of one kind or another. Fulford has been wrong so many times about so many things he has predicted and he seems to make a lot of really dire, fear based predictions. This is one of the few times he has sounded rather hopeful and it's about a one world government. I do find that to be rather laughable!

Nancy :)


Nancy;
You'll notice I never really said much "against" fulford, other than, from my viewpoint, I thought him quite the dreamer. Not all a bad thing, really... but we are still "swimming amongst the sharks".

This and other reasons are why I get troubled over anyone talking "one government" (Tyranny of the majority, anyone?).

But without having read, or listened to much else by Fulford, I hasten to remind myself of an old saying:
"Never attribute to malice that which can easily be explained by ignorance."
Fulford may just be "dreaming out loud". Nice dream, but tricky to put in practice.

But if you take a simple issue like water control, the idea of "local governance" becomes the key. One place may benefit from, and really need "tight water usage control". Then again, someplace like Hawaii doesn't have any use for it. They're surrounded by the damned stuff! What they need is desalinization plants!

Toss in the 1000 other needs, and strengths ea. place in the world has, and you wind up with "one govt" that does everything poorly for everyone. ;)

I am going to go looking for the statements made by the general in charge at the time, re. Tienanmen Square. If I can't find them in a bit, I will just post the gist of the reasoning behind what they did.

Fred

[Humble Janitor]

Fulford, Wilcock, etc. The names may change but the motives always seem to be suspect on here.

Can you blame them for dreaming though? Perhaps they want to manifest this reality and they want us to do so as well. I don't know about a world government but I want world peace and I want to save the ****ing world! We will never do so as long as we're cynical of each other!

[Swami]

Over one million North American Satanists are seeking refuge outside of North America sources with direct access to a former US president, a source close to David Rockefeller and a member of the Japanese cabinet say. The reason they are seeking a refuge is that they fear the reaction of the American people when they find out what was done to them. So far the Japanese, Philippine and Israeli governments have all refused to give the Satanists shelter.

http://benjaminfulford.net/

EDIT: is there somebody in here who can get that info from behind the payserver and send it to me....?

[Manifestor]

not your government or a world government can save the world. as long as you think that a government or an institution must save you...you are lost! there is only one way to save the world...save yourself!