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seehas
30th April 2011, 00:34
hej avalon-community,
my very first thread here and i got some question about regression hypnosis
i realy had some weird things happen to me when i was very young ( taken like scenarios) i can only remember to have beeings in my room that want to take me with them and grab me out of my bed this happend pretty often, like a bad nightmare that came again and again for years... but this werent dreams for me
often i was in fear to go to sleep, once i knew they come to take me i climbed out of my stockbed running to my parents sleepingroom but i got paralysed in the floor that was the only time i realy could do something.
im not able to remember more details
the funny thing is im into these topics since the 90s but i never tought about a regression on myself, maybe its just fear to see things that happend.
someone here got experience with this topic? and whats your point do you think its worth it? how was it for you? did u regret to have done it?
greetings
Flasky
30th April 2011, 01:50
Hello Seehas! I share your same curiosities...I am sorry I don't have answers to offer you but more questions of my own.
Hmm...I'd really like to go through with regression therapy. But who to trust and who to go to? I have tried "self" regression therapy but it was very....How to say...I think I needed a guide. It didn't work very well, I think.
Recently, I've had similar experiences to you - but never as clear as feeling as someone is taking me away. But I've felt the 'fear' or uneasiness of falling asleep. And I have definitely experience a feeling of been 'watched' and not definitely alone as well as seen weird play of lights in my room -- which sometimes I feel like I had JUST missed out on something/someone been there. If that makes sense...
9eagle9
30th April 2011, 02:20
A competent regressionist will teach you methods of self hypnosis for you to use in the future. The first few times out though you really need someone to guide you. A hypnotist only guides you into hypnosis--into state-- you do the actual hypnotizing. But the guide is necessary to help you achieve a deep in=state. Some are fast, medium and slow methods and it varies with each person what works best for them.
I can't be shocked into hypnosis like some can. Neither can someone take a half hour putting me in state. If it takes more than two to seven minutes their going to lose me because I get bored. Explain the situation in full to them, so you have a goal and the hypnotist can guide you to a place where you can have recall of these events, SAFELY, and you are in control. If you find one of a alternative nature they can actually take you out of body so you can see what is occurring using a practice called Ultra Height. . There' is a numerous methods employed so it depends on what occurs as every session is different. You can even ID and remove negative influences and go back in time to re-view circumstances that occurred in childhood. You're subconscious will know don't worry.
If you have never been hypnotized don't expect a sudden change in consciousness you really don't have one although a thing called the critical barrier breaks down allowing you to know sub conscious information. Even if you dont' feel hypnotized and most people don't unless they go way into anesthesia state, or amnesia state, you are able to navigate through this things and still have all the recall.
After the first couple sessions you can typically get back into regressive state yourself.
pharoah21
30th April 2011, 02:23
I too am in the same dilemma. The thing with a hypnotic regression for this is that it can feel quite traumatic, but generally if you can experience the intense emotions, accept them, and move on, it will do wonders for you, because the trauma associated with these encounters are already lodged in your subconscious.
Generally speaking, alien beings who encounter humans are not here to cause us any harm or anything, but we are so traumatised by them because the events that take place with them are so far out of what we have been mentally programmed to perceive as possible. If you were approached by a man in the streets with grey, dolphin like skin and big black eyes, you would probably run for your life and have nightmares about it for years, and this man could have been as gentle as the dalai lama. The key word to your/our healing and development regarding this is the word 'acceptance'. Accepting that these beings are very different, and being comfortable with that is huge.
If you find yourself looking at different humans i.e blacks, whites, asians or different animals and find yourself ridiculing them because of their differences (most of us do this in some way) then that is the first thing to work on. When we can learn to praise people for their differences and feel good around them, then we won't be so traumatised with alien encounters.
Just about everyone who has reached this level of acceptance regarding their encounters has reported an increase in feeling psychic, more loving and just becoming much more spiritually in tune with everything.......
Good luck
DoubleHelix
30th April 2011, 02:32
I went to a hypnotist specialising in past life regression about a month ago and I found he couldn't put me under, it was as if I was too aware and conscious of where I was and what was happening to fall into a deep enough mind state. I've heard this is more common than I originally thought.. Has anyone here had a similar experience?
pharoah21
30th April 2011, 02:38
I went to a hypnotist specialising in past life regression about a month ago and I found he couldn't put me under, it was as if I was too aware and conscious of where I was and what was happening to fall into a deep enough mind state. I've heard this is more common than I originally thought.. Has anyone here had a similar experience?
A lot of that has to do with not being comfortable in the environment with a stranger. My girlfriend was very difficult to be placed under during her session with a professional in her office (I was watching) but I was able to put her under much easier when we were at home.
Carmody
30th April 2011, 02:51
A competent regressionist will teach you methods of self hypnosis for you to use in the future. The first few times out though you really need someone to guide you. A hypnotist only guides you into hypnosis--into state-- you do the actual hypnotizing. But the guide is necessary to help you achieve a deep in=state. Some are fast, medium and slow methods and it varies with each person what works best for them.
I can't be shocked into hypnosis like some can. Neither can someone take a half hour putting me in state. If it takes more than two to seven minutes their going to lose me because I get bored. Explain the situation in full to them, so you have a goal and the hypnotist can guide you to a place where you can have recall of these events, SAFELY, and you are in control. If you find one of a alternative nature they can actually take you out of body so you can see what is occurring using a practice called Ultra Height. . There' is a numerous methods employed so it depends on what occurs as every session is different. You can even ID and remove negative influences and go back in time to re-view circumstances that occurred in childhood. You're subconscious will know don't worry.
If you have never been hypnotized don't expect a sudden change in consciousness you really don't have one although a thing called the critical barrier breaks down allowing you to know sub conscious information. Even if you dont' feel hypnotized and most people don't unless they go way into anesthesia state, or amnesia state, you are able to navigate through this things and still have all the recall.
After the first couple sessions you can typically get back into regressive state yourself.
Once I got into the meditation, I did it all on my own. I did things like remain in this conscious world like that of a 2 week old child. For about 3 weeks straight. I could not remember people's names, words, objects and I had the emotional shift speed of change of a 2 week old child. meaning I could not be stable for more than 5 minutes at a time. What a ride.
Then I went back to the womb and then pre-birth, to soul inclusion and then..well..conscious joining to your higher self can be quite strenuous, at best.
Flasky
30th April 2011, 03:38
Hm very interesting.
It did enter my mind that perhaps I would be a hard one to put under hypnosis. But how to judge when your only guide (or experience) is youtube? Hilarious right...On this note, can anyone suggest some techniques for me to try that have genuinely worked for you?
Pharoah21, I hope to read your suggestions to this as you sound like you know what you are talking about.
Also I was wondering something else. What about 'new' souls? My ex boyfriend told me that he once had a reading from a close family friend (possessing psychic ability and the lot) and all he could remember from it was that he was a 'new' soul put on this Earth and was destined to rule or had the qualities for a great leader.
Now, just to give you guys a little feel of him...His had a very tough childhood; was forced to believe in a religion (Jehovah's Witnesses) he never really believed in and ridiculed by his peers for it - and other reasons. He also had it tough in the family because his other brothers and sisters were of a different father (his the youngest). In his teens he dropped out of school and got in the circle of drugs and became dealing as well - not to mention his mother grew sour on him and has drinking problems - weighted/blamed a lot of their own personal tragedies on him.
Has a result, his grown to be (or has I know him) very closed within himself. His a very difficult person and will always carry this burden of his childhood...in a sense his a very dark person. Hate easily consumes him.
Said that - he isn't a horrible person because obviously I did fall in love with him (I think I will always) and did the see a beautiful person under all that hurt...but his instability and me not been able to cope with that was our downfall.
There is a lot of talk about souls and karma and coming on Earth each time to cleanse off the karma and whatnot... So his journey as an apparent 'new soul', to do with the SHOCK of living here and the learning process? You all following?
But then again. how do you know if you are a 'new soul'...and this inability to fall under hypnosis could it have anything to do with that?
BCBlueJay
30th April 2011, 03:39
Hello Seehas
I recently went to a regression hynotherapist who was trained by Delores Cannon. Are you familiar with her books? Here is the link to Kerry's interview with Delores Cannon: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ihH0L_bffAA
Delores Cannon has written many great books about her experiences with her clients in their sessions.....and she trains people her technique all over the world. I went to one of her students - only 2 or 3 people in Canada who have done her training. She has a unique technique apparently.
The woman I went to is about an hour from me. I live in Western Canada and my sister found this gal for me. She was very thoughtful and explained everything. We were in touch via email and I forwarded numerous questions I wanted to ask days before I went to the session. When I arrived we talked for about 2 hours before we went into the session. My "intuitive self" said, "she's okay". Here is her website:
http://bodysoulapothecary.com/past-life-regression - Years ago I went on stage to try to be hypnotized by a man named Reveen but he asked me to leave the stage because my "resistance" was just too strong.
This time I was ready. Meditated and prayed days before, thoughtfully approached the questions. Went into a cleansing ceremony the day before I went there. I was in this session for 8 hours this past Monday! And, it's taken until today (Friday) for me to feel 'okay'. I just felt totally exhausted. And, she warned me this may happen because it depends on how much 'healing' work you request. I am still "in the process" if you will and am curious how it will all unfold.
Just wanted to share my experience with you. I hope this is helpful!
BC Bluejay
Rozzy
30th April 2011, 05:02
Would love to do a regression hypnosis, maybe get some answers.
Hervé
30th April 2011, 05:10
Something to take into consideration with regards to hypnosis:
Here are the words from a very old oral tradition echoed to the ears of an apprentice to the Gypsy tradition (Pierre Derlon, Voyage au delà du Mental):
“Never in my life have I ever used hypnosis as my masters constantly repeated to me that what destroys Man’s will, destroys Man. Hypnosis destroys consciousness of motion and therefore massacres personality. For hypnosis is to a man’s brain what drug is to his body: a poison which, by killing his will, enslaves his soul into only perceiving lies.
“The difference between drugs and mental disciplines is that drugs kill; whereas, whichever ascetic discipline chosen, it strengthens/empowers. Man is prisoner of drugs, he is the master of the disciplines he subjects his body to in order to free his spirit from the gangue he is prisoner of.
"Man is ignorant of the fact that he is both a machine as well as its mechanics. He distances himself from nature and resorts to artifice. Artifice slowly kills him."
How to do it without hypnosis and/or Carmody's kind of determination?
Here is a site one can start from.
http://web.archive.org/web/20110208115750/http://matrixrevealed.com/
Do read what the guy has to say... and you may realize that it's hypnosis that creates and maintains the skull dwelling zombies also known as sheeples.
DoubleHelix
30th April 2011, 05:11
Hello Seehas
I recently went to a regression hynotherapist who was trained by Delores Cannon.
Hey BlueJay, fan of birds are we? The hypno i saw was also trained by Dalores Cannon.. Seems she gets around :)
phillipbbg
30th April 2011, 10:15
First of all people if you are going to use hypnosis to bring out regressed memories, go to a legit hypnotherapist with psychology training, the reason your mind is preventing you from accessing the information is because of the potential trauma it could or may cause you. YOU NEED A GUIDE to keep you mentally safe.
Now if you want to do past life regression again get to know a good hypnotherapist, your Doctor could be a good person to talk to about who they refer patient to for hypnosis, happens a lot more than you think. With past life regression it is often not as glamorous as you may wish it to be, after all we can't all be Princes and Kings if you know what I mean. However the one most gratifying point about a true past life regression is the realisation that it does not all end with Death... this can be one of the most profound ways of helping patients with terminal illness in helping them come to terms with ceasing in this life.
As far as a therapist not being able to put you under, well in actual fact it is you that is performing the induction to the state of hypnosis not the therapist, they are only guiding you. In most cases if hypnosis can't be achieved it is due to fear or miss trust between therapist and patient.
I hope that this answers some of your questions. I have been a qualified hypnotherapist since the early 90's and only do referral work from doctors or other health workers. I have done past life regression for HIV patients who found it most helpful, also children with specific fears and recurring nightmares etc.
Oh and by the way if you do decide to do hypnosis ask the therapist to record the sessions for you, he or she should not have a problem with this at all. Most people are amazed that over an hour has passed in the blink of an eye, but the tape is proof of the pudding you might say.
I am more than happy to try to answer any Q's but sensible ones please.
pharoah21
30th April 2011, 12:31
Hey Flasky, you may find some answers to your questions in phillipbbg's response.
Also another potential reason for people struggling to go under is what they eat before the session. Think of hypnosis like sleep for now. If before you go to bed, you eat some steak, french fries, and a coke, you would feel tired and lethargic, but you would definitely struggle to sleep that night. The reason being is that your stomach is working hard to break down all the food, and it's almost like trying to go to sleep in the middle of exercise. That's why in many indigenous cultures it's considered taboo to eat a meal after the sun goes down, because it makes sleep harder. The same goes with hypnosis, because it is not all too different from sleep, your body needs to be well rested and peaceful to be able to go under. The same goes with astral travel, meditation, channeling etc. Eat lightly on the days (maybe even the day before) you plan such activities, fruit, veggies, etc. All that good stuff that your body likes.
In regards to the whole 'new soul' thing, time does not really exist in the spiritual dimensions. You could have had 75 previous human lives and still be a new soul. The reason for this is you are not called a new soul because of the amount of lives you've lived, but because of the amount of lessons you've learned. This is why it is important to apply yourself to spiritual learning. If you really dedicated yourself to it all, you could be considered an old soul in the next life. Also, if it is your first time as a human, you'll see yourself in different form during a regression, i.e, aliens etc.
9eagle9
30th April 2011, 12:39
It doesn't need to be traumatic, there's a means of stepping you away from the emotional part so its less traumatic and easier to be expressed. I agree that its necessary to expereince them in some fashion, otherwise there's no point in doing them. Get the trauma out and when you go back you don't have anything to flinch from.
I too am in the same dilemma. The thing with a hypnotic regression for this is that it can feel quite traumatic, but generally if you can experience the intense emotions, accept them, and move on, it will do wonders for you, because the trauma associated with these encounters are already lodged in your subconscious.
Generally speaking, alien beings who encounter humans are not here to cause us any harm or anything, but we are so traumatised by them because the events that take place with them are so far out of what we have been mentally programmed to perceive as possible. If you were approached by a man in the streets with grey, dolphin like skin and big black eyes, you would probably run for your life and have nightmares about it for years, and this man could have been as gentle as the dalai lama. The key word to your/our healing and development regarding this is the word 'acceptance'. Accepting that these beings are very different, and being comfortable with that is huge.
If you find yourself looking at different humans i.e blacks, whites, asians or different animals and find yourself ridiculing them because of their differences (most of us do this in some way) then that is the first thing to work on. When we can learn to praise people for their differences and feel good around them, then we won't be so traumatised with alien encounters.
Just about everyone who has reached this level of acceptance regarding their encounters has reported an increase in feeling psychic, more loving and just becoming much more spiritually in tune with everything.......
Good luck
crownme
30th April 2011, 13:18
waves
regression hypnosis-Trance.
im a hypnotist. i can say its in many cases verry good to have a patient regressed to the issue one may have in life.
your mind absorbs all that happens around you. nothing is ever forgotten.
what happens in many cases im working on like this. is that its like your inner mind shield you from alot of painful memmories that it sees an threat to your persona. or decides what you can handle at the present time in your life.
but with regression i still find it baffeling how clear of an image of a event in their life. and the way i regress is that i get him-her down into somnambulance . and regress them first to a the happyest event in their life first. to build up a start point and endpoint. and to make the patient see the "past" more vivedly . and vivedly it is :D
and then i kinda speak to the inner mind, not "you" i dont care about you and your issues :D and what you think is the problem or your "solutions"
to establish if you as a persona can handle example an abduction, bad behaviour from parents, teatchers, uncles, priests, and so on.
like with heavyweight humans, many of these have verry creative mind to "protect" themselves like this. if they have emotial deep scars, and memmory blocked. then the inner mind is giving you thoughts to get fat to not get example raped, beaten again. its like the mind thinks " ok no one will abuse you if you are fat/big, then you are not pretty or desirable" and then its mission is complete. and you as a person dont have priviledge no more to recognise this as the reson of being fat.
just one example :)
but if i get a positive responce i will let the person also get to watch and remmember each journy and each whole-life experience (if they regress to another life-past-race-animal whatever. many wierd ones :D
but hypnotists in my experiences do know of these things, and thats why most lay a ground of a happy moment in life. then its just when i count to 3 and not before i will snap my fingers and you are out of this place. snap, then bring em to happy place :)
but i sense no danger in regression, not so far, only happy humans that suddennly wake up and smiling :)
if you have issues about this life and stuff you wanna remmember, its ussually no worryes to get a cleryfication of your memmories. and "re-live" that experience.
it may if there are spectators that they will react to that the patient suddenly makes noises, jumps around, gets red, crys, yells, and looooots more. even change tone of voice. but this is nothing to worry about. my personal thought so far is that these emotions really heals and changes the human
so do not run and shake one under trance if they start yelling when re-experience their lets say abduction since its that kinda forum ;) hehe
so even if the experience is negative its then even more emportant to re-live it and cry and then work on it with a new perspective and much clearer insight becouse you just relived it a sec ago :) with the knowledge you have now lets say 20years later. im trying to study and learn how to "talk to your past child" , then you set up a conversation in the hypnosis between the grown up patioent and child one, then have the adult one tell the child that everything is gonna be ok. to me this seems like a logical aproach to solving issues humans may have from child experiences that arent as vividly clear as they was when young.
but overall i say if you trust a person that is a hypnotist, try it out. i doubt highy that you will regrett it . mby you even can get to ask to visit a former life and remmember that too :) its quite fun
namaste
9eagle9
30th April 2011, 13:58
One one hand I see mass hypnosis used daily that is harmful. Mind damaging. In media, in every place.
On the other hand we enter hypnotic states daily, hourly, without even realizing so I'm not sure how that can be construed damaging. When I drive my car long distances or ride on a horse for a long time i enter a sort of hypnotic state. Road trance is just that. There's your hypnotic state. Its a natural state for people to enter into and from POV , a hypnotist that understands that I'm are just setting the conditions to allow a natural process to occur , I can't really see how it is damaging unless the facilitator themselves is less than well intentioned. I just guide things so that a naturally occurring state becomes more productive.
crownme
30th April 2011, 14:08
Something to take into consideration with regards to hypnosis:
Here are the words from a very old oral tradition echoed to the ears of an apprentice to the Gypsy tradition (Pierre Derlon, Voyage au delà du Mental):
“Never in my life have I ever used hypnosis as my masters constantly repeated to me that what destroys Man’s will, destroys Man. Hypnosis destroys consciousness of motion and therefore massacres personality. For hypnosis is to a man’s brain what drug is to his body: a poison which, by killing his will, enslaves his soul into only perceiving lies.
“The difference between drugs and mental disciplines is that drugs kill; whereas, whichever ascetic discipline chosen, it strengthens/empowers. Man is prisoner of drugs, he is the master of the disciplines he subjects his body to in order to free his spirit from the gangue he is prisoner of.
"Man is ignorant of the fact that he is both a machine as well as its mechanics. He distances himself from nature and resorts to artifice. Artifice slowly kills him."
How to do it without hypnosis and/or Carmody's kind of determination?
Here is a site one can start from.
http://www.matrixrevealed.com./ (http://www.matrixrevealed.com./)
Do read what the guy has to say... and you may realize that it's hypnosis that creates and maintains the skull dwelling zombies also known as sheeples.
waves o/
kremt * what aload of bull**** :D
you know nothing of trance and hypnosis and yet you can direct ppl here to these sites were alot of Bs is writte. by humans that never experience this and just have opinions.
what you speak of may be the closest to "waking-hypnosis". but even that you as a individual can wake from that. but yet i bet you all still sit and watch your precious TV :D and even build your home around it :)
im sorry but true "hypnosis" (wouldnt even call it that, but hey) is a form of trance where you have to "agree" to enter. tbh a hypnotherapist is nothing more but a guide for you. i never even try anymore and hypnotise humans that are reluctant or have fear. fear like this. becouse they wont enter deep enough state without alOT of work. wont achive sonmabulance or deeper when you wont agree to the contract.
fear and ignorance. the wanting to belive to know whats really going on. i call it ego :)
fear of the unknown.
namaste
crownme
30th April 2011, 14:17
One one hand I see mass hypnosis used daily that is harmful. Mind damaging. In media, in every place.
On the other hand we enter hypnotic states daily, hourly, without even realizing so I'm not sure how that can be construed damaging. When I drive my car long distances or ride on a horse for a long time i enter a sort of hypnotic state. Road trance is just that. There's your hypnotic state. Its a natural state for people to enter into and from POV , a hypnotist that understands that I'm are just setting the conditions to allow a natural process to occur , I can't really see how it is damaging unless the facilitator themselves is less than well intentioned. I just guide things so that a naturally occurring state becomes more productive.
hello :D
oh you are so right on the money :)
mass suggestion, just relly read up on nazi germany. your see the open mass hypnosiss in its rawest form.
but yeah your tv and all is mass suggestions, espsially loud noice fast followed by lower voice. then your critical factor isbypassed and the suggestion is freely to program straight into your brain. its relly easy really :)
you even use trance hypnosis on your friends without even knowing it. when you put emotion to words, then assossiate it to life. and humans ussually start with a loud hello or attention seeking notion that baffeles you and stops you from thinking of what you just where thinking of, and if friend fires in his story fast enough without stop, its straight into your subconcious as fact and assossiation to emotion. bang you are "hypnotised" .
see the logic ?
you are so right when you speak of driving, that is a trance state where your inner mind takes control and lets you drift off into your "ego thoughts" ;) daydreaming and so on.
i say again a hypnotist can do really wonders for you as a individual. ive seen small miracels and its quite fun :)
but ofc it as anything can be used to negative and to your own agenda. but thats on you. i would never ever go against an individuals will (if its not as aprty trick to make him/her bark when i say banana :D )
i meen have fun with it :)
namaste
phillipbbg
30th April 2011, 14:51
Hey Flasky, you may find some answers to your questions in phillipbbg's response.
Also another potential reason for people struggling to go under is what they eat before the session. Think of hypnosis like sleep for now. If before you go to bed, you eat some steak, french fries, and a coke, you would feel tired and lethargic, but you would definitely struggle to sleep that night. The reason being is that your stomach is working hard to break down all the food, and it's almost like trying to go to sleep in the middle of exercise. That's why in many indigenous cultures it's considered taboo to eat a meal after the sun goes down, because it makes sleep harder. The same goes with hypnosis, because it is not all too different from sleep, your body needs to be well rested and peaceful to be able to go under. The same goes with astral travel, meditation, channeling etc. Eat lightly on the days (maybe even the day before) you plan such activities, fruit, veggies, etc. All that good stuff that your body likes.
In regards to the whole 'new soul' thing, time does not really exist in the spiritual dimensions. You could have had 75 previous human lives and still be a new soul. The reason for this is you are not called a new soul because of the amount of lives you've lived, but because of the amount of lessons you've learned. This is why it is important to apply yourself to spiritual learning. If you really dedicated yourself to it all, you could be considered an old soul in the next life. Also, if it is your first time as a human, you'll see yourself in different form during a regression, i.e, aliens etc.
Very true about eating, well said. Your next point about time not really existing is true also, one of the strangest regressions I have done was to another life in the Future... it was an interesting session to say the least when both the patient and myself realised the time line... we decided to come back to this time line, easier on the mind. More spiritual learning required on both our parts at the time.
There are also 32 measurable levels of hypnosis , many of us are dipping in and out all the time, as mentioned in other comments. For anyone interested it is when your conscious mind is occupied with a task such as driving and your are day dreaming (the day dreaming is the subconscious mind working, if you are aware of this you are in a level of hypnosis)
Another great time to self heal is when you first are waking in the morning, try not to actually wake up but hold that state of total comfort but awareness, this is one of the most powerful forms of hypnosis, many great things can be achieved in this time. It is also a great example of what it feels like to be in a hypnotic state, aware , comfortable but not really caring about anything in particular.
A little tip if you can think of a colour such as green and make it into mist to breath in first thing in the morning it will energise you for the day. The more you think about it the more it works for you day after day. And if you try not to think about it it will work even more for you.
Have fun
crownme
30th April 2011, 14:56
Philipbbg . what induction do you use ? do you have a self induction ?
Lost Soul
30th April 2011, 15:01
According to what I read, hypnosis can be dangerous. It allows an avenue for other entities to enter you.
crownme
30th April 2011, 15:11
walking can be dangerus. whats your point ? :)
phillipbbg
30th April 2011, 15:15
Philipbbg . what induction do you use ? do you have a self induction ?
There are many, for myself I use a little journey that gets me there very quickly and in control.
Get comfortable, no crossed legs arms etc, have a covering over you because your body temp will drop.
I close my eyes and picture a revolving door to a high rise building,
I walk through and over to the lifts
I get in a lift and feel it moving upwards
I feel the small bounce when it comes to a stop, which relaxes me more
I get out and walk over to a door with a gold key on a hook next to the door
As I unlock the door with the gold key I can see the light under the door, bright warm light
I go through the door putting the key in my pocket... the light is very bright but does not hurt my eyes.
I stand for a moment, then when my eyes have adjusted
I can see I am at the top of a spiral stair case
I start to go down step by step taking myself deeper and deeper towards the bottom.
It is very bright at the bottom and there is a nice comfortable lounge chair in the middle of the room.
As I reach the chair I gently sit in it and it folds all around me and is a fantastic place to be...
One of the arms on the chair has a bank of buttons that can control many wonderful things
I have created all these buttons to use
This is my special place....
5 minutes here is like a week and a fantastic safe place to be.
When I decide I have done what I wanted to do, I return the way I came making sure to put the key back on the hook next to the door....
This self hypnosis induction has a lot of safety hooks built into it to keep you protected and in control. Its not the usual relaxation but I find it very useful. Another induction is to occupy your mind with something like counting back from 1000 by 3's the problem with this one is you need someone to give you the therapy otherwise you just end up having a good sleep.
Hope this helps.
PS, my chair has a button that makes it fly, plus many many more special enhancements, it even controls a picture screen that shows me all sorts of things. You program your chair in the way you want. :)
Jake
30th April 2011, 15:23
According to what I read, hypnosis can be dangerous. It allows an avenue for other entities to enter you.
If care is taken, and the right people are involved, this will not be the case. Many phenomenon can occur during trance, especially if you are experimenting by yourself. Memory regression can be dangerous, as there are reasons for the memory being repressed in the first place. You should really be in a strong 'place' in your life. IMOO... The hypnotist must be someone that you can completely trust. More than one session is often required. I am not a hypnotist, so please don't take my words as gospel. Has anyone read any of Delores Cannons work? She has some fascinating input on this subject.
What a wonderful opportunity we have in Crownme. I have a question for you, Crownme. What is your take on chanelled material obtained during hypnosis? Delores Cannon, for example... She is a regression therapist who had dealt, primarily with abduction phenomenon, then moved into past life regression, and ultimately is communicating with beings 'through' these hypnotized folks. Have you come accross anything like this in your work?
phillipbbg
30th April 2011, 15:24
According to what I read, hypnosis can be dangerous. It allows an avenue for other entities to enter you.
The only danger with hypnosis is you will fall asleep generally. But as said before it can uncover memories that if you are not prepared for will be as traumatic as they were when they occurred. So yes it can be dangerous if you are not prepared ... if you have multiple personalities then they can be given a voice which may not be your intention, hence the importance of having a therapist who can keep control of the session for your mental safety.
As for other entities entering you, they do not need to wait for you to be in a state of hypnosis.... you already carry them with you.
crownme
30th April 2011, 15:30
Philipbbg . what induction do you use ? do you have a self induction ?
There are many, for myself I use a little journey that gets me there very quickly and in control.
Get comfortable, no crossed legs arms etc, have a covering over you because your body temp will drop.
I close my eyes and picture a revolving door to a high rise building,
I walk through and over to the lifts
I get in a lift and feel it moving upwards
I feel the small bounce when it comes to a stop, which relaxes me more
I get out and walk over to a door with a gold key on a hook next to the door
As I unlock the door with the gold key I can see the light under the door, bright warm light
I go through the door putting the key in my pocket... the light is very bright but does not hurt my eyes.
I stand for a moment, then when my eyes have adjusted
I can see I am at the top of a spiral stair case
I start to go down step by step taking myself deeper and deeper towards the bottom.
It is very bright at the bottom and there is a nice comfortable lounge chair in the middle of the room.
As I reach the chair I gently sit in it and it folds all around me and is a fantastic place to be...
One of the arms on the chair has a bank of buttons that can control many wonderful things
I have created all these buttons to use
This is my special place....
5 minutes here is like a week and a fantastic safe place to be.
When I decide I have done what I wanted to do, I return the way I came making sure to put the key back on the hook next to the door....
This self hypnosis induction has a lot of safety hooks built into it to keep you protected and in control. Its not the usual relaxation but I find it very useful. Another induction is to occupy your mind with something like counting back from 1000 by 3's the problem with this one is you need someone to give you the therapy otherwise you just end up having a good sleep.
Hope this helps.
PS, my chair has a button that makes it fly, plus many many more special enhancements, it even controls a picture screen that shows me all sorts of things. You program your chair in the way you want. :)
ahm thank you :) alittle different than what i currently use, but yeah i used the spiral and walk to door, leave all thoughtsd in a box and enter my controllroom :)
ive changed now to lightswitch in my brain to try and achive sonmambulance by finger-drop technice. 30sec
really, you use can use numbers in selftrance ? i only use on individuals that are acceptable to the elman induction. but use 100, deeper relaxed, let them drift out, 99 deeper relaxed even deeped, let them go. and ussually by then they have relaxed their numbers completly out.
and again thnk you for that one. ill try it out :)
crownme
30th April 2011, 15:33
According to what I read, hypnosis can be dangerous. It allows an avenue for other entities to enter you.
The only danger with hypnosis is you will fall asleep generally. But as said before it can uncover memories that if you are not prepared for will be as traumatic as they were when they occurred. So yes it can be dangerous if you are not prepared ... if you have multiple personalities then they can be given a voice which may not be your intention, hence the importance of having a therapist who can keep control of the session for your mental safety.
As for other entities entering you, they do not need to wait for you to be in a state of hypnosis.... you already carry them with you.
hello :)
tis should the hypnotherapist know about and let the patient sqream and cry throgh then let them freeze time and have an overview of the matter. ive had verry succsess with this.
and yeah your subcounsious are a tricky one and playful. love to play games. and if you are not stern and careful it can mess up the session :)
manny
30th April 2011, 16:04
imagine that you had lived your past life just 20 years ago and in that life you where a multi millionaire.
and in this one you are skint.
all that work in the last life.
and you remember it now in this.
you better get a good lawyer.;)
phillipbbg
30th April 2011, 16:48
imagine that you had lived your past life just 20 years ago and in that life you where a multi millionaire.
and in this one you are skint.
all that work in the last life.
and you remember it now in this.
you better get a good lawyer.;)
Just think about this
We pass away and at the pearly gates they say "How was the holiday? they missed you in the factory while you were away."
Its not the destination , its the journey.... live, lean, experience, evolve
White Phoenix
30th April 2011, 17:21
Hello seehas,
I'm also interested in present-life regression hypnosis because of events that occurred in my childhood. These are (for lack of a better description) some of my earliest memories, where "something" is coming toward me and I'm too terrified to move. I even recall on one occassion that I ran for the door and tried to scream, but no sound came out. Either this "thing" was invisible to me or the image has been blocked (by my mind or someone else's), but I had the impression that it was humanoid and quite malevolent (I wouldn't have known those words at the time though!). I honestly do not know if these "memories" were dreams or not, as I don't remember how the situations began or ended, but they felt very real. I'd just like to know one way or the other!
I've been to see a hypnotist once (for depression) several years ago, and I still don't know what to think of the experience!:noidea:
Does anyone know a "good" regression therapist in the UK, near London? I'd like to undergo past-life regression too, but this life seems to be asking for my more immediate attention!
phillipbbg
30th April 2011, 17:33
Hello seehas,
I'm also interested in present-life regression hypnosis because of events that occurred in my childhood. These are (for lack of a better description) some of my earliest memories, where "something" is coming toward me and I'm too terrified to move. I even recall on one occassion that I ran for the door and tried to scream, but no sound came out. Either this "thing" was invisible to me or the image has been blocked (by my mind or someone else's), but I had the impression that it was humanoid and quite malevolent (I wouldn't have known those words at the time though!). I honestly do not know if these "memories" were dreams or not, as I don't remember how the situations began or ended, but they felt very real. I'd just like to know one way or the other!
I've been to see a hypnotist once (for depression) several years ago, and I still don't know what to think of the experience!:noidea:
Does anyone know a "good" regression therapist in the UK, near London? I'd like to undergo past-life regression too, but this life seems to be asking for my more immediate attention!
When you find a therapist, ask them to play the regression on a screen in your mind , this way you will know that even though it is very real, you are not actually part of it, this way the therapist can help you understand the what you are seeing, it may not be what you expect, but more important that you are distanced from it so that your mind can re-adjust the memory and you can then move on. Make sure you advise the therapist that you have a session for depression ( something I personally would not advise hypnosis for IMO) And make sure you deal with this life's memories before you look at experiencing other lives.
Life always provides so long as you ask for help, the right person will come to help you.
seehas
30th April 2011, 17:59
Hello seehas,
I'm also interested in present-life regression hypnosis because of events that occurred in my childhood. These are (for lack of a better description) some of my earliest memories, where "something" is coming toward me and I'm too terrified to move. I even recall on one occassion that I ran for the door and tried to scream, but no sound came out. Either this "thing" was invisible to me or the image has been blocked (by my mind or someone else's), but I had the impression that it was humanoid and quite malevolent (I wouldn't have known those words at the time though!). I honestly do not know if these "memories" were dreams or not, as I don't remember how the situations began or ended, but they felt very real. I'd just like to know one way or the other!
I've been to see a hypnotist once (for depression) several years ago, and I still don't know what to think of the experience!:noidea:
Does anyone know a "good" regression therapist in the UK, near London? I'd like to undergo past-life regression too, but this life seems to be asking for my more immediate attention!
yes this sounds realy similar to what happend to me, i can not remember have seen a face or something but i know there were some beeings to get me and i had a realy huge bed (like 1.90meters high my dad build it for me) and they were able to grab me out of that, that one time i could escape out of my bed somehow i knew they were coming to get me i climbed out and did it to the floor on the way to the bedroom of my parents i was like frozen and i know they where behind me to get me, my scream-moment was the same it was like screaming in an vacuum and my movements were like glued.
of course my parents told me that this have been bad dreams but i knew it werent dreams this was to real this all stoped when we moved to another house and i was like 3 or 4 years older but i still was in fear about this to come back into my life i cant recall how often it happend but i was in fear about it for many years.
one night i was screaming so loud that my mother woke up and came in my room, i was fighting even her trying to touch me in pure panic and fear mumbling stuff like dont take me
this stuff is over 20 years in my past and i can still remember how terrifing it was for me because i couldnt do anything against it
White Phoenix
30th April 2011, 19:04
I certainly empathise with you about holding on to the fear, I was afraid of the dark well into my late teenage years because I thought something might try to grab me and there was nothing I could do to stop it. I'm much braver nowadays though! :)
Whether they were dreams, ET encounters, or my mind's way of protecting me from some other traumatic situation, I just don't know, but I'd prefer to know and to deal with whatever the consequences of that are.
I agree with you phillipbbg about not advising hypnosis for depression. It certainly wasn't as big a mistake as trying to "cure" it with pills, but I didn't know any better back then. :violin: The only thing that got me out of it was me, and even though it took 13 years, I know now that it was an essential part of my journey. I had to know the darkness before I could appreciate the light!
crownme
1st May 2011, 11:07
I certainly empathise with you about holding on to the fear, I was afraid of the dark well into my late teenage years because I thought something might try to grab me and there was nothing I could do to stop it. I'm much braver nowadays though! :)
Whether they were dreams, ET encounters, or my mind's way of protecting me from some other traumatic situation, I just don't know, but I'd prefer to know and to deal with whatever the consequences of that are.
I agree with you phillipbbg about not advising hypnosis for depression. It certainly wasn't as big a mistake as trying to "cure" it with pills, but I didn't know any better back then. :violin: The only thing that got me out of it was me, and even though it took 13 years, I know now that it was an essential part of my journey. I had to know the darkness before I could appreciate the light!
waves o/
im just wondering on your sentence here about fear. holding on to it ? why would you ? does the sentence mean something ive missed or ?
White Phoenix
1st May 2011, 11:26
I guess I really meant to say that the fear holds on to you. It can stay with you and affect your overall personality, so in essence you carry it within until you are aware enough to deal with it and begin to let it go. It can be sticky stuff!
9eagle9
1st May 2011, 14:17
walking can be dangerus. whats your point ? :)
The ego is responsible for that actually. Hypnosis serves to break down the critical barrier the ego imposes. I know of people who have entities influencing them and one the easiest way to remove them is via hypnosis.
Hypnosis is like anything else-like druid or witchcraft. It can be used for positive or negative purposes.
ANYTHING in this physical world is bent to the will of the person wielding it.
9eagle9
1st May 2011, 14:23
The thing that gets me is that psychology passes off what you have described as 'night terrors' in children of around ages 3 to 6.. Its supposed to be caused by trauma. The thing is in children from relatively normal families, how much trauma does a child get exposed to? Their not even school yet, have a relatively sheltered enivironment, so this whole night terror thing, over all has to be caused by something other plain old waking trauma.
yes this sounds realy similar to what happend to me, i can not remember have seen a face or something but i know there were some beeings to get me and i had a realy huge bed (like 1.90meters high my dad build it for me) and they were able to grab me out of that, that one time i could escape out of my bed somehow i knew they were coming to get me i climbed out and did it to the floor on the way to the bedroom of my parents i was like frozen and i know they where behind me to get me, my scream-moment was the same it was like screaming in an vacuum and my movements were like glued.
of course my parents told me that this have been bad dreams but i knew it werent dreams this was to real this all stoped when we moved to another house and i was like 3 or 4 years older but i still was in fear about this to come back into my life i cant recall how often it happend but i was in fear about it for many years.
one night i was screaming so loud that my mother woke up and came in my room, i was fighting even her trying to touch me in pure panic and fear mumbling stuff like dont take me
crownme
1st May 2011, 14:29
I guess I really meant to say that the fear holds on to you. It can stay with you and affect your overall personality, so in essence you carry it within until you are aware enough to deal with it and begin to let it go. It can be sticky stuff!
oh yes that way :) certanly verry true :)
fear is one of main things i want to work with as i progress through this. i dont want to get rit of it, but i love to kinda make it clear for others what their fear do with them and what it is. becouse its awful watching stuck goodoo humans in life.
so yes verry sticky stuff :/ but a powerfull thing ive discovered espessially within hypnosiss is if you can convince the individual to forgive and forget. its like watching tonns of stone gone from their shoulders :) removes fear pretty good
Jean-Luc
7th December 2012, 10:41
Something to take into consideration with regards to hypnosis:
Here are the words from a very old oral tradition echoed to the ears of an apprentice to the Gypsy tradition (Pierre Derlon, Voyage au delà du Mental):
“Never in my life have I ever used hypnosis as my masters constantly repeated to me that what destroys Man’s will, destroys Man. Hypnosis destroys consciousness of motion and therefore massacres personality. For hypnosis is to a man’s brain what drug is to his body: a poison which, by killing his will, enslaves his soul into only perceiving lies.
“The difference between drugs and mental disciplines is that drugs kill; whereas, whichever ascetic discipline chosen, it strengthens/empowers. Man is prisoner of drugs, he is the master of the disciplines he subjects his body to in order to free his spirit from the gangue he is prisoner of.
"Man is ignorant of the fact that he is both a machine as well as its mechanics. He distances himself from nature and resorts to artifice. Artifice slowly kills him."
How to do it without hypnosis and/or Carmody's kind of determination?
Here is a site one can start from.
http://web.archive.org/web/20110208115750/http://matrixrevealed.com/
Do read what the guy has to say... and you may realize that it's hypnosis that creates and maintains the skull dwelling zombies also known as sheeples.
Very, very interesting.
I strongly resonate with this.
I will need to find time to have a look at the links you mentionned.
Thanks.
jackovesk
7th December 2012, 12:49
For some of you, regression therapy maybe the answer..?
For me...
I'll just stick with the 'Knowing', its a hell of alot more accurate..:)
Flash
7th December 2012, 13:49
Something to take into consideration with regards to hypnosis:
Here are the words from a very old oral tradition echoed to the ears of an apprentice to the Gypsy tradition (Pierre Derlon, Voyage au delà du Mental):
“Never in my life have I ever used hypnosis as my masters constantly repeated to me that what destroys Man’s will, destroys Man. Hypnosis destroys consciousness of motion and therefore massacres personality. For hypnosis is to a man’s brain what drug is to his body: a poison which, by killing his will, enslaves his soul into only perceiving lies.
“The difference between drugs and mental disciplines is that drugs kill; whereas, whichever ascetic discipline chosen, it strengthens/empowers. Man is prisoner of drugs, he is the master of the disciplines he subjects his body to in order to free his spirit from the gangue he is prisoner of.
"Man is ignorant of the fact that he is both a machine as well as its mechanics. He distances himself from nature and resorts to artifice. Artifice slowly kills him."
How to do it without hypnosis and/or Carmody's kind of determination?
Here is a site one can start from.
http://web.archive.org/web/20110208115750/http://matrixrevealed.com/
Do read what the guy has to say... and you may realize that it's hypnosis that creates and maintains the skull dwelling zombies also known as sheeples.
Entirely true Amer Zo. One thing one has to be very careful about hypnosis is that false memories, false beliefs, can and often are very easily implanted. They are not yours, but your behavior will change in consequence because you think they are yours. I have seen many hypnotist implanting stuff in the client. Be careful, it can be very subtle.
Second, I will use hypnosis when I am dealing with a professional (not Dolores Cannon, sorry) who is trained and can be held accountable if somehting goes wrong.
Third, I much prefer to do my own hypnotic session by taping my session and listening to it. Before starting though, I will listen to my taped session many many times to make sure I do not implant something undesirable. NLP can be used positively or negatively (which is happen when false memories are implanted) and inadvertently, unconsciously.
Fourth: a good hypnotherapist will make you go under without you ever noticing your are diving. You notice when coming out. So if you do not go under, you may have to do with a bad hypnotherapist. However
Fifth: 15% of the people are not hypnotizable. They just won't go under.
Sixth: We are being constantly hypnotised by TV, advertising, even teachers at school. But mostly TV and videos on youtube.
You could not know how reticent I am with hypnotherapists. I HAVE SEEN SOOOOOO MUCH UNETHICAL JUNK THERAPISTS, which makes them worst when under hypnosis, that I am almost allergic to it. The choice of therapist is essential. To my idea: you are the best one for yourself.
ex: when my ex electrician has followed week end courses to become therapist and uses hypnosis on his clients, while he himself is harassing his wife, being violent with his children, etc etc. there is a fundamental problem here. Can you imagine the love he is implanting on his customers' brain when they come for improving their relashiships :rolleyes:[
And this is only one amongst many unethical I have seen.
What allows me to say this: Although not practicing, I am trained in NLP - which means also hypnotherapy, in psychotherapy and have degrees in psychology. 90% of therapist around I would not go to.
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For some of you, regression therapy maybe the answer..?
For me...
I'll just stick with the 'Knowing', its a hell of alot more accurate..:)
I do agree with this approach Jacovesk
Flash
7th December 2012, 13:59
Hello seehas,
I'm also interested in present-life regression hypnosis because of events that occurred in my childhood. These are (for lack of a better description) some of my earliest memories, where "something" is coming toward me and I'm too terrified to move. I even recall on one occassion that I ran for the door and tried to scream, but no sound came out. Either this "thing" was invisible to me or the image has been blocked (by my mind or someone else's), but I had the impression that it was humanoid and quite malevolent (I wouldn't have known those words at the time though!). I honestly do not know if these "memories" were dreams or not, as I don't remember how the situations began or ended, but they felt very real. I'd just like to know one way or the other!
I've been to see a hypnotist once (for depression) several years ago, and I still don't know what to think of the experience!:noidea:
Does anyone know a "good" regression therapist in the UK, near London? I'd like to undergo past-life regression too, but this life seems to be asking for my more immediate attention!
When you find a therapist, ask them to play the regression on a screen in your mind , this way you will know that even though it is very real, you are not actually part of it, this way the therapist can help you understand the what you are seeing, it may not be what you expect, but more important that you are distanced from it so that your mind can re-adjust the memory and you can then move on. Make sure you advise the therapist that you have a session for depression ( something I personally would not advise hypnosis for IMO) And make sure you deal with this life's memories before you look at experiencing other lives.
Life always provides so long as you ask for help, the right person will come to help you.
If you have to ask that to an hypnotherapist, Phillipbbg, change therapist. All hypnotherapist should know this method, if they don't just go elsewhere. This method is used when there is a heavry negative emotional charge coming out, to distance the client so that he does not feel threaten again and again. If the charge is not too high, this method is not necessary.
I hope your last sentence is true for all of us.
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A competent regressionist will teach you methods of self hypnosis for you to use in the future. The first few times out though you really need someone to guide you. A hypnotist only guides you into hypnosis--into state-- you do the actual hypnotizing. But the guide is necessary to help you achieve a deep in=state. Some are fast, medium and slow methods and it varies with each person what works best for them.
I can't be shocked into hypnosis like some can. Neither can someone take a half hour putting me in state. If it takes more than two to seven minutes their going to lose me because I get bored. Explain the situation in full to them, so you have a goal and the hypnotist can guide you to a place where you can have recall of these events, SAFELY, and you are in control. If you find one of a alternative nature they can actually take you out of body so you can see what is occurring using a practice called Ultra Height. . There' is a numerous methods employed so it depends on what occurs as every session is different. You can even ID and remove negative influences and go back in time to re-view circumstances that occurred in childhood. You're subconscious will know don't worry.
If you have never been hypnotized don't expect a sudden change in consciousness you really don't have one although a thing called the critical barrier breaks down allowing you to know sub conscious information. Even if you dont' feel hypnotized and most people don't unless they go way into anesthesia state, or amnesia state, you are able to navigate through this things and still have all the recall.
After the first couple sessions you can typically get back into regressive state yourself.
I agree with this approach as long as the therapist is very well chosen.
oddjob428
7th December 2012, 14:15
I tried hypnosis for the first time last year and was unable be put under. I was told it can sometimes take 6 or 7 attempts to have any success. The lady I used was very thorough and a student under Dolores Canon.
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