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Pagan
8th May 2011, 08:24
My Intention was to create this thread sometime in July. However the information started to show up in the forum due to a discussion in an another thread, so decided post some stuff now. I'll already had this story for over 20y in my brain. It has certainly affected my view on the humanity.

The Bock Saga is an oral tradition kept secret inside the Bock-family uptil 1984. It was then given out by Ior Bock, as his mother passed away. This was an agreement made between Birger Jarl(the advisor to the Swedish King) and the Head of the Bock-family. this was the year 1248, when Finland became the last European country to be christianized.

The "Saga" is very complex and very detailed, all based on the spoken sounds of Root and Vaan language(todays "Swedish", spoken in the south of Finland and the Finnish language), the clear sounds of the Alphabet, Alfernas beten.

There is a huge archive of material, all in sound, that is not out on the web yet. There is also some video material on you tube, however that material is not very well organized and not necesearly very informative, as it is fragmented and lacking the "red thread" to follow (most of it is also, inferior in quality as it is from the VHS and compact casette-age)

Many of you might wonder why this material never really hit the mainstream? There is several reasons to that. One is that it came out before the internet-era and the other wich might be the greatest reason was the badwill in the Finnish MSM. The resistance actually, has been mindblowing! Not going into detail here for now. There has, anyway been somewhat great excavations east of Helsinki, in the efforts to reveal Lemminkäinen's Tempel(sealed year 987) and the enormous pyramid-shaped hollow space, that was created at the old north pole, a long, long time ago when the lava came out from the inner earth, creating the base for the landmasses we walk upon, this very present day. There inside is also one enormously long spiral, around the hollow space with chambers with artefacts stored there from thousands and thousands of generations, most of it from the pre-iceage paradise time.

(footnote: I will put all new links and posts in this first segment to keep all the material together for easier viewing, wich means I will post all new material at two locations, in this segment and as traditionally, in the end of the thread)


Suggesting you start from this website: http://bocksaga.de/



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=36dYmHpfQ08





I'll put out this short clip with an unknown fellow, giving his views. I do not back up his thoughts more than that it is quite a nice intro for your Bock Saga experience.





http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w2bFPFMFIQY&feature=related

The beginning of the excavations 1987. People were filled with enthusiasm and hope. One can se the horizontal crack in the entrance. Above the crack is solid granit, under the crack is softer material, some sort of crafted concrete that got softer inside.(in the crack were also an inscription made, consisting of a geometrical symbol of 5 horisontal lines and 7 vertical lines. the number five stands for Visdom and the number seven is Oden's number. The meaning is Visdom of Oden) Before the "crack" was exposed there layed 3 or 4 granite blocks, on top of each other, in perfect rektangular shape, 1,5 meters wide and 4 meters long. The entrance was sealed the y 987 When Rosland(Russia) turned to the greek ortodox-belief system.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tbeVAPbgaWg&feature=related

Ior Bock Explaining the Bock saga in Goa, India, 1991 (the dia show lacks relevance. Not connected to the voice or what is said.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xeb9aMeO8Lk&feature=player_embedded#at=2101

K W Telling a bit about the excavations that still up to day hasn't been approven by the Finnish authorities amongs other subjects.

Some written information about above mentioned topic here: http://bocksaga.de/sagae2.htm


Monday, April 24, 2006
THE SECRET OF ATLANTIS AND SANTA CLAUSE, RELEAVED! – Rewriting Nordic History

I used to go to a local pub for few pints with my flat mate talking about all kind of topics, once we were talking about history, especially Finnish history, and we concluded that we have learned in the school only one sided version of our home country’s story written by scholars and priests under Swedish rule. We were puzzled by the lack of connections to east or downgrading the influence of the east. Moreover, we were speculating that in Finland must have been a kingdom because most the neighboring countries have chieftain type of governing system, why Finland would be exception. We thought that something crucial is missing in history writing. Aah, those lovely beer talks with salt’ n’ vinegar crisps (ships)!

Some years has passed since the questions were raised in Turnpike Lane’s Weatherspoons Pub, and recently, I found this interesting Bock’s Saga which is feeding my hunger for the other view of Finnish and Nordic history. – I have to inform my old friend Mika about this…

READERS GUIDE: when keeping the mind open for new theories it is good to calm down the imagination, it is hard sometimes, I know. ;)

Enjoy this interesting article: http://aleksur.blogspot.com/2006_04_01_archive.html

The www.bocksaga.com is still down due to the hacker attack some weeks ago. However the link below is quite informative so recommend it to for you to read.

http://www.paulapeterson.com/Bock_Saga.html

Ria
8th May 2011, 08:35
I would like to know any thing ells that you can find
many thanks

daddy fishwick
8th May 2011, 08:45
I find this very interesting! Thanks!

Kamikaze
15th May 2011, 20:14
Hmm.. The bocksaga site doesn't work anymore. Google gives attack warning thingy and if I ignore it as it was all fine a few days ago I get only 'permission not granted'. Was it Hacked?

Hopefully the site will be fixed soon. I've yet only read a few pages there.
Maybe I should go and buy the actual book as I can read Finnish and Swedish all well.

Language skills go like this.
Mother tongue: Finnish fluent
Most familiar with: swedish writing and speech, "native"
Finnish writing. Fantastic. spelling wrong on every second word ;P But I can read and understand without issues thought it can be a little slow at times as I never read anything in Finnish.

Sadly it seems to be hard to come by?

Well at least a download was found, yet to check if it works though.

Pagan
15th May 2011, 20:45
Hmm.. The bocksaga site doesn't work anymore. Google gives attack warning thingy and if I ignore it as it was all fine a few days ago I get only 'permission not granted'. Was it Hacked?

Yes, the bock saga homepage got hacked! :(

Amenjo
15th May 2011, 22:18
I was shocked to discover Ior Bock was murdered in October 2010!

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ior_Bock

Love and Truth,

Amenjo

Amenjo
15th May 2011, 22:25
This is an interesting page on the Bock saga, also talks about Drunvalo Melchizedek's involvement with the excavations of the kings chambers.
http://spiritofmaat.com/feb07/bock_saga.html

Love and Truth,

Amenjo

Pagan
16th May 2011, 06:27
I was shocked to discover Ior Bock was murdered in October 2010!


Yes, It in deed was and is still shocking too us. I knew Ior, personally. A truly remarkable person he was. Ior gave private history lectures at Sveaborg, to the Royal families of Sweden and Denmark. No one had his knowledge and could explain history the way he did.

There is other things about Ior Bock that you wouldn't even belive if told.

I'll find it as a strange coincidence that the bock saga site got hacked as it never occured before and the site has been up for many years. After posting the link here it didn't take very long. Strange.

Pagan
16th May 2011, 12:23
This is an interesting page on the Bock saga, also talks about Drunvalo Melchizedek's involvement with the excavations of the kings chamber

http://spiritofmaat.com/feb07/bock_saga.html


Love and Truth,

Amenjo




I think this article contains several parts of biased/false info and/or authors own conclusions, without knowing all the facts. The bocksaga.com -page is the only reliable source, that I know of.
The Bock saga cant be written down, to explain itself. It's an oral tale, where the sounds of the spoken word is giving out the logic of the saga.

Borden
16th May 2011, 19:44
Thanks, Pagan,

I do find it suspicious that the website isn't working. I watched the youtube clips and then wanted to go and read more on the site. Disappointing.

Perhaps the suppression of this information isn't just historic?

Borden

K626
16th May 2011, 19:51
Finland is a very magical place Pagan and has high power. It is one of my favourite places and I learnt many things on my visits there.

I will look at this a bit more before I post.

cheers

K

Pagan
7th June 2011, 22:07
The www.bocksaga.com is still down due to the hacker attack some weeks ago. However the link below is quite informative so recommend it to for you to read.

http://www.paulapeterson.com/Bock_Saga.html

jorr lundstrom
10th August 2011, 20:59
Ok Pagan. Ty for this. Seems to be too strong acid for someone. LOL

neuthral
4th January 2012, 15:24
I have been very interested in the Bock Saga and Nordic mythology for very long time and was very sad to hear that Ior got murdered in his own home (i think) as i was eager to meet him face to face some day. I read the bock family saga was told to Ior over a 20 years time every day so it would be remembered correctly.
I would be happy to volunteer for excavations of the Lemminkäinen Temple and get it open.

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