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xbusymom
16th March 2010, 03:40
I have been looking at several videos on how to make orgone/orgonite devices..

they look fairly simple to make... so i am going to try my hand at it.

I have put out an ad on craigslist to see if I can collect (recycle-able) aluminum cans, grind them into a powder or sand and make small ones from mini-dixie cup molds using the expoxy (the kind that dries clear) and a little bit of color.

... will experiment with different shapes... may even look into the claim that they can regenerate the life force in water- if that turns out to be true- then *bam* I will have got me a business started!

:cool:

john.d
17th March 2010, 14:02
Hello , here's some good links if your getting into orgone :

http://educate-yourself.org/dc/giftingwithorgone11feb03.shtml
http://www.littlemountainsmudge.com/howtomakehhgs.htm ..... there are a lot of more advanced stuff on this site :)
http://educate-yourself.org/fe/fejoewatercell.shtml
http://loveforgifting.com/
http://magnetism.vfedtec.com/JoeCellExperiment.htm

Some of the links are about joe cells but its all the same energy :)

John

xbusymom
18th March 2010, 08:31
john d; thanks for the links...

the Love For Gifting site looks great... I didn't think anyone else was doing orgonite devices... this will be tremendous help for me.

I have the resin and several types of scrub pad metals and plastic mini cups for the molds, but I was wondering if I really needed the crystals (if so ... I will have to wait till my next paycheck)?

john.d
18th March 2010, 12:07
Yeah you need the crystals . And from ive read , if you focus your intent on what you want it to do (when the resin is curing) , it makes them 50 - 60 % better . Ive got a few pyramids made of organite with the quarts points and a few other crystals like kyanite in them . I think adding sacred geometry adds to the flavour too :) . A friend of mine uses one of these (that he made ):
http://www.littlemountainsmudge.com/buyringgenerator.htm
fed with solfeggio frequencies to cure his orgonite .

John

xbusymom
19th March 2010, 03:37
I ordered a pound of mini-crystals from OrgoneCrystals.com and started cutting up the scrubbies...

can't wait till they get here-

I go back to work monday (spring break went by so fast) so the caste/mold will have to be done on the next weekend...

Myra
19th March 2010, 04:06
Here is a mini short clip on how to make Orgone:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EwBF7vTEoyE&feature=player_embedded

xbusymom
19th March 2010, 19:21
thanks, Myra, but could it be that simple???

I have read quite a bit of stuff over the last few weeks...

use any metal, don't use aluminum, copper is best, but don't use iron or lead, mixing metals is good/bad...
crystals, no crystals, double point, use crystal dust or tumbled ones, other gems, be sure to point single terminal crystals a certain way...
use/dont use magnets, put in marbles, bb's - and which type...
good/bad shapes and molds, mold types- paper/plastic/metal/glass...

wow... I think my head is spinning at this point... hahaha

so - while I am waiting for my crystals to get here, I think I will stay productive and create a 'comparison chart of ingredients' (and hopefully I won't get to distracted by it when my crystal order finally gets here) to help others find their way through this maze

MargueriteBee
19th March 2010, 19:32
Hi xbusymom! I highly suggest you cover your table with plastic sheeting, and use gloves and an apron. This stuff is super sticky and will get on everything. My best advice is to plan every step, set it up that way and go slowly. Also, I never let my dogs get near this stuff while wet because you will have to cut it out of their hair, kids too. If you make a bunch of tower busters to gift I suggest you paint them brown like a rock.

I'm getting everything together to make a chembuster.

Myra
19th March 2010, 19:35
I haven't made any Orgone yet but plan to really soon. It seems like it's pretty simple. But what kind of metals to use? I even hear of people using aluminum, so I guess I need to study a little more about it as I wouldn't want to use the wrong metals. I have a feeling it's probably easier than we think, though.

Myra
19th March 2010, 19:40
I'm getting everything together to make a chembuster.

I really want to make one of those immediatly because the Chemtrails are covering us in So Cal daily. :(

MargueriteBee
19th March 2010, 19:57
I use copper clad BBs and copper scrub pads cut up. The crystals don't have to be perfect, use cheap ones for towerbusters. I use the pretty crystals in personal devices. I add other crystals also like citrine, emerald, ruby, etc. Use your imagination and have fun.

xbusymom
20th March 2010, 02:13
from what I have read... it doesn't really matter what metals (except never use lead) are used... its just that some people have knowledge of the different metal energies and want to make a HHG specially energized for specific healing effects...

and what I am concluding -from all the posts and boards- is that the metal-resin combination attracts the EMF energy and the crystal re-transforms the DOR into POR

MargueriteBee
20th March 2010, 05:00
What I think is important is the circular shape. My guess is the energy comes in and whips around and speeds up. But I don't know for sure. As soon as I figure out how I will post a picture of a organite plate I made using a nine inch pie pan as a mold.

Myra
20th March 2010, 05:15
I use copper clad BBs and copper scrub pads cut up. The crystals don't have to be perfect, use cheap ones for towerbusters. I use the pretty crystals in personal devices. I add other crystals also like citrine, emerald, ruby, etc. Use your imagination and have fun.

Marguerite, do you use Aluminum? I heard it's okay, kinda gross because Fluoride is a waste product :yuck: But using nastiness for unintended good is a pretty good thing to me :wink: Kinda like makin' Lemonade from Lemons even though I don't know where that ever came from because Lemons are good! Anyway...

MargueriteBee
20th March 2010, 05:36
The BBs are aluminum but clad in copper. I just like the way copper looks all shiny and bright.

Myra
20th March 2010, 05:56
The BBs are aluminum but clad in copper. I just like the way copper looks all shiny and bright.

I do like the look of Copper better. I actually saw a website advertising Aluminum shavings to make Orgone. I say whatever works! I will find out more on that subject...

john.d
20th March 2010, 10:31
What I think is important is the circular shape. My guess is the energy comes in and whips around and speeds up. But I don't know for sure. As soon as I figure out how I will post a picture of a organite plate I made using a nine inch pie pan as a mold.

You can put a loose copper spiral in the bottom to help the energy spin :) Personaly i think pyramids or dodecohedrons are better shapes because the sacred geometry is linked to the torsion/orgone energy . Its really tricky to do the moulds though . Cones are nice and easy and work well so probably the best option for getting started .

John

xbusymom
20th March 2010, 17:31
I found this page on Terminology (and metal recommendations):

http://materiaetherica.com/tutorials/terminology.html

http://materiaetherica.com/tutorials.html

and charging the crystals inside of a pyramid and it really works
http://materiaetherica.com/tutorials/pyramidcharger.html
... my mom did some experiments with pyramid energies when I was a teen (with preserving/drying a flower, and the flower showed NO signs of wilting at all, it dried looking as fresh and retained the color as "still alive").

Orgone related links:
http://materiaetherica.com/mothership.html

MargueriteBee
21st March 2010, 04:05
I have used a copper wire spiral in a few devices, it does feel more intense. I put on in a wand I made and will post a photo of that when able.

Blueskywalking
21st March 2010, 06:09
For those embarking on the orgonite journey a must read is The Adventures of Don and Carol Croft: http://educate-yourself.org/dc/adcepisodeindex.shtml

Don was the one whose destiny it was to inspire the modern orgonite movement to the next level back round 2001/02. "His" website is http://www.ethericwarriors.com/ where there are gathered a core crew of very active 'gifters' who mass produce and distribute heaps of orgonite in a sort of a frequency/energy warfare with the PTB or the Old World Odor as Don calls them. The forum is invite only so it has become quite a sanctuary for the proactive and the level-headed. You will find complete tutorials on orgonite construction and links to many 'proven' vendors of orgonite products. This forum also includes a section where advanced orgonite research is practiced and discussed.

I heartily recommend Don's writings as bull**** free and a very honest effort to come to terms with the state of things. He is partnered to a high level clairvoyant called Carol.

MargueriteBee
21st March 2010, 17:17
For those embarking on the orgonite journey a must read is The Adventures of Don and Carol Croft: http://educate-yourself.org/dc/adcepisodeindex.shtml

Don was the one whose destiny it was to inspire the modern orgonite movement to the next level back round 2001/02. "His" website is http://www.ethericwarriors.com/ where there are gathered a core crew of very active 'gifters' who mass produce and distribute heaps of orgonite in a sort of a frequency/energy warfare with the PTB or the Old World Odor as Don calls them. The forum is invite only so it has become quite a sanctuary for the proactive and the level-headed. You will find complete tutorials on orgonite construction and links to many 'proven' vendors of orgonite products. This forum also includes a section where advanced orgonite research is practiced and discussed.

I heartily recommend Don's writings as bull**** free and a very honest effort to come to terms with the state of things. He is partnered to a high level clairvoyant called Carol.


I heartedly agree. Educate-Yourself.org is where I learned about chemtrails and orgonite. I never saw the chemtrails until then.

Candeisr
27th March 2010, 18:28
Several weeks ago I installed a Chembuster and have been observing the effects. I have taken a kind of Fox Mulder of X-Files approach to this. I want to believe but you have to prove it to me. Anyway, the spewers have been busy in our neck of the woods and I have seen some very interesting results and some cloud formations that seem to have nothing with the prevailing winds. Lots of fun. If anyone's interested I will keep you posted.

Gita
27th March 2010, 19:13
Please do Candeisr. It’ll be interesting to see what the actual results would be.

MargueriteBee
27th March 2010, 22:42
Absolutely, Candeisr, please keep us updated.

Candeisr
28th March 2010, 18:56
I'd like to post a picture I took of the clouds about 4 days after setting up the Chembuster as soon as I figure out how

Candeisr
29th March 2010, 17:55
Here we go. I wasn't born yesterday but sometimes feel that way. This is a picture of the clouds.taken 4 days after setting up the Chembuster.

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/attachment.php?attachmentid=408

john.d
31st March 2010, 22:49
This is a great thread about orgonite :
http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=62867
Lots of good tips on there , like putting a hhg on your electric meter to reduce your bill and using them in your greenhouse to get your plants growing better :)

Good stuff

John

Solphilos
1st April 2010, 00:16
I've always had an interest in orgone-accumulators and such devices after studying the works of Tesla, and have had a good deal of success and with the orgone accumulator mentioned in his works. However, that Croft site seems to be just a bunch of psuedo-science and nonsense that deviates extensively from Teslas original works. I have experimented extensively with "orgonite" and the "chem/cloud-busters" with absolutely no noticeable effects, as have many others. Maybe a few placebo type effects for some people, but the many unjustified claims on that site are just ridiculous.

But hey, if anyone has gotten any positive results from such things, be they all placebo, imagined, or genuine, by all means continue experimenting as you wish. Results are results, and benefit is benefit, no matter what actually brings such results about.

john.d
7th April 2010, 17:03
I've always had an interest in orgone-accumulators and such devices after studying the works of Tesla, and have had a good deal of success and with the orgone accumulator mentioned in his works. However, that Croft site seems to be just a bunch of psuedo-science and nonsense that deviates extensively from Teslas original works. I have experimented extensively with "orgonite" and the "chem/cloud-busters" with absolutely no noticeable effects, as have many others. Maybe a few placebo type effects for some people, but the many unjustified claims on that site are just ridiculous.

But hey, if anyone has gotten any positive results from such things, be they all placebo, imagined, or genuine, by all means continue experimenting as you wish. Results are results, and benefit is benefit, no matter what actually brings such results about.

Hello Solphilos , your the first person ive ever noticed that has a negative thing to say about organite ? Maybe some people are not sensitive to its effect ? I was under the impression that it was Wilhelm Reich that first experimented with orgone-accumulators ? Can you elaborate on the success you have had with orgone and which devises?
Cheers

John

Solphilos
7th April 2010, 17:56
Hello Solphilos , your the first person ive ever noticed that has a negative thing to say about organite ? Maybe some people are not sensitive to its effect ? I was under the impression that it was Wilhelm Reich that first experimented with orgone-accumulators ? Can you elaborate on the success you have had with orgone and which devises?
Cheers

John

Your right, it was Reich; I seem to have confused my scientific geniuses :doh: lol, thanks for the correction.

My successful experiments have been with the box or cabinet type accumulator, which I decided to build after reading the orgone accumulator handbook.

My first experiment was to build a full size accumulator in my garage, initially sticking to the book in construction and materials.

Initially, I tried sitting and meditating in the device to notice any effect, but being that I was always full of abundant energy anyways, nothing special happened.

Considering my love for plants and horticulture, I figured this would be the perfect medium for experimentation. First, I took twenty cuttings from a species of salvia and placed them in a rooting substrate. Ten of these went inside the accumulator at night during lights out, the other ten remained outside of the accumulator. During this experiment, all cuttings received the same amount of lighting, and humidity levels were relatively the same inside and outside of the cabinet; the only variable was the device itself.

After just four days, 8 of the 10 plants that were in the accumulator perked up from their droopy state and already showed signs of rooting. None of the other ten plants showed any signs of change. After 8 days, all of the accumulator plants have rooted and displayed new growth, while 5 of the other ten plants were just beginning to perk up. The other five never rooted and died in the next week.

This was what I consider my first real success with this device, and to me, is absolute proof that it works, and works quite well. After this, I went on to experiment similarly with seeds, of which sprouted faster and went on to become healthier plants than was normal.

I also started placing jugs of water in the cabinet, and used this to water my plants, and the amount of plant diseases in my garden went on a decline soon afterward.

About a year after using the accumulator, I stumbled upon articles about orgonite, and quickly went out and purchased the resin, crystals and and metals. I've experimented with these devices repeatedly, but never obtained any noticeable results whatsoever. I'm not saying that they do not work, only that I have had no success with them personally, so I have not proven to myself any reason to believe that they do.

mijas
8th April 2010, 15:20
I think the person who adheres most to Reich's work is Dr. JamesDeMeo, check out his interview on ConsciousMediaNetwork, you have to enter your e-mail and get a 'guest' pass to watch the videos now, otherwise its a small subscription monthly. He has also written lots of books on building your own devices & he explains the extraordinary results he has achieved with these. Rain in areas where there had been drought for long periods etc. I get the impression he doesnt think much of Don Croft or many other organite sellers online. He has a website and will e-mail personally. He only recommends one website in California for products, says pendants/pyramids/HHG's etc are not based on the work of William Reich, contrary to popular opinion!

Solphilos
8th April 2010, 15:45
I have several books by Dr. DeMeo, and it was his research that actually inspired me to experiment with these devices. And you are absolutely right about him adhering most to Reich's work. People like Croft are either just out to make money scamming people, or they are simply enthusiastic experimenters that have no practical understanding of the science behind Reich's research.
"Orgonite" and such just have no basis in science whatsoever, and seem to be based of a gross misunderstanding of what Reich was talking about.

Fina
18th April 2010, 20:17
I attached a small orgonite 'phone charm' to my mobile phone. When you dowse for negative/harmful EMF etc without any orgonite near, I get a strong reaction, but when I place a piece of orgonite near the phone, it seems to have dissipated.

I know this is not 'scientific', but, I am hoping to be able to gain access to some sensitive EMF-detecting equipment in the near future, to see what results we can get - if any?

Plenty personal anecdotal evidence that an orgone generator / accumulator / orgonite pendants etc do seem to have some positive effects on people {eg. people not knowing anything about the "Nice new ornament" their partner has acquired}


...placebo effects or not- if it's cheap, and helping people enjoy a better quality of life, what the heck?!

HORIZONS
10th May 2010, 01:41
I thought this was interesting.

source: http://proliberty.com/observer/20030310.htm

Who was Dr. Wilhelm Reich and why has history tried so hard to erase him?

Before dismissing what you are about to read, consider that the FDA did everything in its power to eliminate the knowledge of orgone energy from the world because, it claimed, "it doesn't exist." If orgone energy does not exist, it is, therefore, not a threat, is it? Rather than ignore this thing that does not exist, the FDA effectively sentenced Dr. Wilhelm Reich to death and, for at least a decade, actively pursued a campaign to destroy all the books, notes and research papers it could find containing the word "orgone." Judging by the government's actions, orgone energy does, indeed, exist.

by Jerry Morton

Dr. Wilhelm Reich (1897-1957) is still noted historically for his work in psychiatry and psychoanalysis. However, Dr. Reich's work in biophysics has been stricken from the historical record.

In the mid 1930s Dr. Reich began noticing an energetic connection that is shared by all living beings and had the clarity of mind to not dismiss the observation as unimportant. Dr. Reich called this energy "orgone" and worked for decades demonstrating its laws and studying its various manifestations. His work encompassed 40 years within six countries but in the end he suffered the indignity of seeing his life's work banned in America and tons of his books and journals burned by the U.S. food and Drug Administration per bureaucratic decree. It was a brazen act of censorship that is overlooked today within the texts of history.

Prior to his orgonomic research, Dr. Reich had earned an international reputation as a scientist of integrity. Once, after he had demonstrated orgone energy to Albert Einstein, the famous physicist exclaimed that, "this would be a bombshell to physics."

Dr. Reich spent his last days in prison falsely labeled a quack and a racketeer by the American government and the American medical system.

Wilhelm Reich was born in Austria in 1897 as the son of a rather wealthy farmer and, as was the common at that time, he was home schooled first by his mother and later by a number of tutors. He excelled in his studies because of his intelligence and also, in part, out of fear of his father's horrible temper that would erupt over something as trivial as an incorrect answer in his studies.

Reich's family was tragically dysfunctional and, at age 13, his mother poisoned herself to flee the abuse of Reich's violently-tempered father. Four years later, Reich's father died of pneumonia -- a financially destitute and lonely man. Reich, at 17, ran the farm himself for a short time after his father's death but the property was destroyed by WWI in 1915.

After serving in the Austrian army on the Italian front, Reich began attending classes at the University of Vienna and graduated in 1922 as a doctor of medicine.

While studying for his doctorate, Reich became a protégé of Dr. Sigmund Freud and soon after graduating became the clinical assistant at Freud's Psychoanalytical Clinic where he, himself, became a pioneer in psychoanalysis.

In his book, "Character Analysis" (1933), Dr. Reich detailed a biological basis for neurosis and provided a step toward the discovery of the cosmic orgone energy. During the years 1936-1939, Dr. Reich conducted experiments concerning the idea of airborne infection. He showed that microorganisms form themselves from inorganic material and disintegrating organic substances. He proved where airborne germs came from and demonstrated the absurdity of the commonly held "air germ" theory. It was during these experiments in 1939 that Dr. Reich accidentally discovered radiation particles which he later named orgone.

An assistant had mistakenly taken the wrong container from the sterilizer and heated the substance within it to incandescence. The substance was common ocean sand and, when cultured and inoculated on an egg and agar medium, yielded a yellow growth. When viewed under high magnification this growth was seen as vesicles (he called them SAPA bions) that glimmered an intense blue color that, in time, would grow and then move about.

As he continued to experiment with these "bions" he noticed that when he placed live cancer cells next to them the cells would die. It was during days of observing these phenomena that Dr. Reich came down with an extreme case of conjunctivitis and his eyes became very sensitive to light. He noticed that it affected his eyes the most when he was looking at these vesicles through his microscope.

During the course of this work in the winter of 1939, Dr. Reich also noticed that he had developed a suntan under his clothing and he knew he was being exposed to some type of radiation and it greatly worried him. He used a radium electroscope to test the culture tubes and it gave no reaction. It took a few weeks for him to realize that this newly noticed radiation (that he had named orgone) was present everywhere.

Taking his SAPA bions into the darkness of his basement and waiting for two hours he noticed his hair and clothing emitted a blue glimmer and that the room was filled with a hazy, slow-moving, gray-blue vapor.

Over time, Dr. Reich demonstrated that the orgone radiation was the same energy that the sun gave off and that the incandescing and swelling of the sand had released this energy once again from its material state. He was forced to this conclusion by the facts before him but he admitted having to overcome great emotional reluctance in doing so.

Further experiments showed that this ever-present orgone would be repelled by metal objects and absorbed by organic material. By making a box with alternate layers of organic (wool) material and metal, Reich found that he could accumulate a more concentrated field of orgone. He called these boxes "orgone accumulators" and they had a major role in his experimentation with orgone.

Nearly 15 years later, the American government made an attempt to wipe the very word "orgone" from the English vocabulary, by banning the accumulator and destroying Dr. Reich's books and journals.

Dr. Reich was able to watch orgone in the various forms it would take on within an accumulator. The forms were: A bluish-gray, fog-like formation; deeply blue-violet luminous dots or; whitish, rapid rays.

He was also able to demonstrate and measure orgone with a thermometer and an electroscope as well as with a Geiger counter.

What astounded Dr. Reich was the fact that for over two thousand years the presence of this orgone energy was overlooked or argued away whenever a scholar attempted to describe what he saw.

What Dr. Reich discovered is nothing short of the energy responsible for the biological, orgiastic pulsation of life on Earth (and possibly the universe). Rather than embracing Dr. Reich's discoveries, the collective (politically-motivated) scientific community responded with levels of anger and derision that bordered on hatred; rather than conducting investigations of their own and furthering the knowledge of orgone energy for the betterment of mankind, the (politically-motivated) scientific community led the charge to destroy any documents that even mention the word "orgone." And then the (politically-motivated) scientific community destroyed Dr. Reich.

Though a meticulous researcher and prolific scientist, Dr. Reich saw himself as only a pioneer in the field of orgonomy (the science of orgone) and likened himself to Christopher Columbus. In his book, "Ether, God and the Devil" (1950 and 1951), he said that, as Columbus did not discover New York City or the resources on the west coast of America, but rather a stretch of seashore that was up to that time unknown to Europeans, so he only discovered the orgone energy of orgiastic plasma pulsations. This phenomena, being the common etheric energetic thread coursing through all life forms, represents a universe of discovery of which Dr. Reich located only one small shoreline.

The object of the (politically-motivated) scientific community's opposition of Dr. Reich's work was his "orgone accumulator." The orgone accumulator, a "box" large enough for a person to sit in and constructed of alternating layers of organic and inorganic substances, was used to successfully treat his patients for various maladies. In his book "Cancer Biopathy" (1948), Dr. Reich recreates his carefully documented work regarding the treatment of several cancer patients deemed hopeless and terminal by orthodox medicine. Several of his cancer patients were "cured" but, being the careful man of science he was, Dr. Reich was careful not to declare orgone treatment as a cure for cancer.

After a lengthy harassment campaign by the FDA over the medical use of orgone that began in the mid 40s, Dr. Reich died in prison in 1957.

All of his books and papers were, by federal decree, burned up through 1962 and may have continued on a lesser scale until 1970. The government of the United States had declared that orgone did not exist and orgone was the only word that was necessary to appear in print to qualify the material as worthy of destruction.

During the course of his varied orgone experiments, Dr. Reich touched upon many aspects of science. Among these, the disciplines of medicine, physics, cosmology and meteorology. He discovered atmospheric orgone and noticed that, in the presence of pollutants of various kinds, including electromagnetic emissions, the orgone would become stagnant and cause illness and environmental damage.

Dr. Reich called this "stagnant" orgone, "dead" orgone or "DOR." The effects of DOR would often be that of drought and the formation of deserts.

To counter the effects of DOR, Dr. Reich added long pipes to an orgone accumulator box and pointed it skyward to help balance the atmospheric orgone and bring rain. He called this device a "cloud buster."

In one experiment starting in October, 1954, Dr. Reich was successful in bringing rain to the desert around Tucson, Arizona. Even before the rain fell the newly-balanced orgone had caused the grass to grow a foot tall in the desert. This green spectacle stretched some 40 to 80 miles to the east and north of that city. It took tremendous skill to use the cloud buster because it drew the dead orgone into the device and could pose serious health problems to both the operator and the atmosphere itself.

The ability to safely use the cloud buster died with Dr. Reich and remained buried for half a century. Science, good or bad, historically moves forward of its own inertia-a scientist dies, another scientist picks up his notes and continues where he left off. Not so with orgonomy. It wasn't until almost 50 years after the (politically-motivated) scientific community sentenced Dr. Reich to death and erased the memory of his work from history that a new and improved cloud buster would be developed.

Self-taught bioelectric innovator Don Croft of has recently developed a modern cloud buster he claims is safe for both the operator and the environment.

Dr. Reich touched upon many aspects of the cosmic orgone energy and knew that it would take many people to develop the many potentials of its nature. In 1948 a close friend of Dr. Reich by the name of A.S. Neill stopped by Reich's laboratory, called Orgonon, in the state of Maine. He saw a small motor turning over that was attached to an orgone accumulator. He said that Reich cried out with great joy, "the power of the future!"

When later asked if he had developed that power source any further Reich is reported to have said that his job was one of discovery and he was going to leave it to others to carry out the results.

***

Note: The IO understands the controversial nature of orgone energy. Though one cannot see or smell it, sensitive equipment can measure it. Therefore, it exists -- regardless that the FDA determined it did not exist in 1954.

Our contemporary controversy, therefore, has nothing to do with whether or not orgone energy exists because the federal government's non-scientific wishing it away doesn't make so. The controversy is the modern adaptations of orgonomy and claims by a growing circle of people who believe that Reich's work provided a foundation for positive changes in our embattled world.

One has to wonder if those who worship the "DOR" and revel in its ability to cause misery recognized Reich's discoveries as a direct threat to their globalist intentions. Is that recognition the power behind the campaign to ruin the man and erase the memory of his orgonomic research from history?

The answer becomes obvious when you place into perspective what the government did to Reich. It killed him at the age of 60 for continuing to research, without FDA approval, something it claims does not exist; when asked to prove orgone energy does not exist, it refused to provide the science that supports its claims or the identity of those who conducted the experiments and reached that conclusion.

Those who have ever taken a high school-level biology class understand the scientific method and can determine that Dr. Reich was sent to his death by a government that ignored science to make a political point for all those who may wish to explore orgone energy: Do not.

Most IO readers understand energy; that good energy that produces good things (like sunshine, positive thoughts, healthy food and healthy bodies) occupies higher vibrational frequency ranges and bad energy that produces bad things (rot, disease, unhealthy food and negative thoughts) occupy lower vibrational frequency ranges.

It follows, therefore, that a world saturated in low frequency vibrations will produce a world filled with anger, hostility, disease and death.

What kind of world do we live in now?

Ah, success. Because the U.S. government has managed to keep low, through a variety of socio/political maneuvers, the vibrational frequencies within which Americans operate, our people are sick, angry, frightened and living in chaos -- the environment most conducive to totalitarian control.

Dr. Reich's work evoked the wrath of the baby totalitarian state. It killed him to send a message to scientists that orgone energy is off limits for further study. In the absence of scientists developing beneficial applications for orgone energy, the totalitarian state has come of age.

Now it appears we have nothing left to lose -- the pretense of freedom is gone (all that remains is the illusion of freedom being kept alive in the minds of dwindling numbers of Americans).

As the totalitarian police state emerges, its emissions of dead, stagnant energy from exponentially-increasing sources (both organic and inorganic) is also increasing. Rising to the challenge are groups of people who have picked up Dr. Reich's work and are running with it.

Next month we will continue this story with the adventures of those who claim to be using orgone energy to replace bad energy with good.

A small candle, when lit, can, all by itself, overcome darkness where the same amount of darkness cannot similarly affect light. The same is true when it comes to good and bad energy. That's why bad energy must have outside help from government and its duplicitous minions to prevail.

Those who have chosen to expand upon Reich's work believe they can prove to a candid, if not doubting world, that the following ills can be corrected by the proper application of techniques that harness orgone energy. They believe in their ability to prove how properly directed orgone energy will neutralize bad energy emissions from cell towers, chemtrails and angry people. They also believe they can reproduce Dr. Reich's experiments and bring rain to drought-ridden areas.

Can they direct orgone energy to accomplish these things? My own personal skepticism has been extreme for many months. However, a few things have happened to cause my skepticism to waver and my hope begin to grow.

Besides, we haven't much else to lose. Wouldn't it be marvelous if something as simple as overcoming bad energy with good is the antidote for all the evil which has so saturated our modern world? Isn't it also just like God to set things up to be so simple even his human children can do it? (DWH)

***

Whatever happened to William Washington?

by Don Harkins

As Dr. Reich indicated, he only discovered the shoreline of what could lead to a universe of potential applications for orgone energy. Though we may never know which potential application caused the federal government to sentence Dr. Reich to death and zealously seek out and destroy all references to his work, a clue may be found in the mysterious fall, 1948 disappearance of William Washington.

Reich biographer Harvard graduate Myron Sharaf (Fury on Earth: A Biography of Wilhelm Reich [1983]), also pictured in the white shirt in the center of the photo at left [in the IO newsprint edition], claims to have met “Bill” at the University of Chicago when they were both freshmen in 1944. Sharaf explains that Bill began working with Dr. Reich in the summer of 1947 to help him with the mathematics of developing an orgone energy motor. “When he left Orgonon in fall, 1948, he took the motor set-up with him in order to work on further refinements. He was supposed to return to Orgonon in early summer, 1949, but he did not appear, nor was there any word from him,” wrote Sharaf.

Sharaf and Dr. Reich checked out some of the stories Bill had told them about his past and previous employment. “None of these stories proved true,” Sharaf noted.

Dr. Reich was able to speak to Bill on the phone once in late summer, 1949. Reich, a lifelong student of the human mind, deduced that Bill was hesitant in his speech because he was being monitored by some outside force, probably the federal government, a conclusion not shared by Sharaf. “Washington was never heard from again,” wrote Sharaf.

Ola Raknes, Ph.D., had observed the orgone-force motor in action and saw that the theory was valid. Unfortunately, no further research into this area was conducted after Bill left Orgonon. “This would be an extremely important area of orgone energy research,” Raknes observed in 1970.

***

We should begin construction of the Museum of Federally-Buried Technologies so we can dream about what the world would be like if problem-solving intelligence was celebrated instead of persecuted.

Did the FDA ban evil's antidote in 1957?

Dr. Wilhelm Reich, MD, died at the age of 60 after serving eight months of a two year prison sentence. Since his death, tremendous energy has been expended to erase his memory from history. One must ask, “Why?”

The following paragraph, taken from the book, “Wilhelm Reich and Orgonomy -- The great psychologist and his controversial theory of life energy,” by Ola Raknes, Ph.D, of Norway (1970), sets the stage for answering that question: “The existence of such energy is still contested -- or at least neglected -- by practically all scientists who have not themselves made the observations and experiments, and had the experiences, that form the basis of the discovery. An American Federal Court has even, in March, 1954, in a Decree of Injunction, declared Orgone Energy to be nonexistent, without, however, giving the facts on which the Injunction is said to be based. In a correspondence with the present writer [Raknes] the Food and Drug Administration (FDA), on whose complaint the Injunction was decreed, said that experiments executed with the most modern equipment and methods by experienced scientists had proved the nonexistence of orgone energy. None of these experiments has ever been published, and in further correspondence, the FDA refused to divulge the names of those scientists or any of the experiments on which the complaint was said to be based. As Dr. Reich did not obey the injunction he was arraigned for contempt of court and sentenced to two years in the penitentiary. He died in prison after not quite eight months.”

Dr. Reich, a world-renowned psychologist and protégé/contemporary of Sigmund Freud, was sent to prison at age 60 to die because he insisted upon continuing his research into orgone energy -- in defiance of a federal injunction that resulted from the FDA's apparently unscientific opinion that orgone energy did not exist. All Reich's books were banned and those that were found were burned by the FDA. Any printed matter that contained the word “orgone” was subject to the ban and burning by the FDA per the injunction. The injunction was still holding in 1970.

The question now becomes, “What is orgone energy?”

If it did not exist, why did the federal government behave so militantly in its attempts to remove all mention of it from the world of print and the minds of people? Why did the federal government give a death sentence to a well-respected old man for insisting upon continuing his studies of something that doesn't even exist?

The federal government has used its authority to ban many viable and useful technologies. Should we accept the FDA's position that orgone energy doesn't even exist or is it in our best interests to take another look at Dr. Reich's work and his controversial theory of life energy? More importantly, can orgone energy be used to help neutralize the negative energies that so permeate our modern world?

***

What is orgone energy?

Dr. Wilhelm Reich was first a protégé and then a contemporary of Sigmund Freud. Most people associate Freud with his belief that the manifestations of being human are directly related to sexual repression or expression.

As Dr. Reich's work began pulling away from that of Freud, he became intrigued with identifying the specific form of energy that made sexual expression possible. He discovered that the formula of function that led to an orgasm was the common formula of function for all biological processes in all living matter: tension ® charge ® discharge ® relaxation.

Dr. Reich isolated the particle responsible for this formula and named it “bion.” He was also able to culture bions from inorganic matter and, quite accidentally, solved the riddle of biogenesis: He discovered the mechanism whereby lifeless substances transition to living matter.

He later named the energy that resulted from bionic activity “orgone.” It's properties can be summarized as follows: 1. Organic substances attract and absorb orgone energy; 2. Metallic substances attract and repel or reflect orgone energy; 3. Stoppage of orgone energy by any metallic obstacle as well as by a sensitive living organism will result in a rise in temperature

[Ola Roakes, Ph.D, Wilhelm Reich and Orgonomy, 1970].

An FDA agent who was at the Orgonon Observatory burning Dr. Reich's books and research papers commented in his report that Reich told the agent how his books had been burned in Germany after the nazis came into power, but he never expected it would happen again.

Swami
10th May 2010, 06:26
Kate Bush Cloudbusting


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IRHA9W-zExQ

I still dream of Orgonon.
I wake up cryin'.
You're making rain,
And you're just in reach,
When you and sleep escape me.

You're like my yo-yo
That glowed in the dark.
What made it special
Made it dangerous,
So I bury it
And forget.

But every time it rains,
You're here in my head,
Like the sun coming out--
Ooh, I just know that something good is gonna happen.
And I don't know when,
But just saying it could even make it happen.

On top of the world,
Looking over the edge,
You could see them coming.
You looked too small
In their big, black car,
To be a threat to the men in power.

I hid my yo-yo
In the garden.
I can't hide you
From the government.
Oh, God, Daddy--
I won't forget.

'Cause every time it rains,
You're here in my head,
Like the sun coming out--
Ooh, I just know that something good is gonna happen.
And I don't know when,
But just saying it could even make it happen.

It's you and me, Daddy.

It's you and me... Daddy---

It's you and me... Daddy---

E-yeah yeah yeah yeah yo-ohhhhhhhhhh

And every time it rains
You're here in my head
Like the sun coming out.
Your son's coming out.
Ooh, I just know that something good is gonna happen.
And I don't know when,
But just saying it could even make it happen.

Ooo-ohh, just saying it could even make it happen.

I'm Cloudbusting Daddy.

Your son's coming out.
Your son's coming out.

leavesoftrees
10th May 2010, 07:43
Greetings. My first post on this forum

Thanks for this clip. I have loved this song since Kate Bush released it back in the 80s.

I had no idea it was about Reich!

Swami
10th May 2010, 07:45
Greetings. My first post on this forum

Thanks for this clip. I have loved this song since Kate Bush released it back in the 80s.

I had no idea it was about Reich!

Its about Wilhelm, you can bet on that.........

Axman
10th May 2010, 12:53
Thanks I never heard that song from Kate that,s Awesome

Thanks Captain Swami

The axman ;)

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Thanks I never heard that song from Kate that,s Awesome

Thanks Captain Swami

The axman ;)

mijas
10th May 2010, 15:18
Its about Wilhelm, you can bet on that.........

Wow, I loved this song too from the 80s. I remember the video back then & yet I had no idea what it was about! It just seemed a bit strange. Lyrics & video makes sense now. Thanks for posting.

Swami
10th May 2010, 16:43
Wilhelm Reich (March 24, 1897 – November 3, 1957) was an Austrian born psychiatrist and psychoanalyst, known as one of the most radical figures in the history of psychiatry.[1] He was the author of several notable textbooks, including The Mass Psychology of Fascism and Character Analysis, both published in 1933.

Reich worked with Sigmund Freud in the 1920s and was a respected analyst for much of his life, focusing on character structure rather than on individual neurotic symptoms.[2] He tried to reconcile Marxism and psychoanalysis, arguing that neurosis is rooted in the physical, sexual, economic, and social conditions of the patient, and promoted adolescent sexuality, the availability of contraceptives, abortion, and divorce, and the importance for women of economic independence. His work influenced a generation of intellectuals, including Saul Bellow, William S. Burroughs, Paul Edwards, Norman Mailer, and A. S. Neill, and shaped innovations such as Fritz Perls's Gestalt therapy, Alexander Lowen's bioenergetic analysis, and Arthur Janov's primal therapy.[3]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wilhelm_Reich


“A hundred and sixty acres of land on a soft incline facing
south and east, six hundred meters above sea level,
covered with a young pine forest, a lake in front and
mountains on the horizon. Here truth shall be sought and
protected from the plague, here sickness and misery shall
be understood and ways discovered for conquering
them...The name of the home of life research
shall be Orgonon.”

- Wilhelm Reich, September 1942

http://www.wilhelmreichmuseum.org/

Peter Robbins - Orgone Energy, Wilhelm Reich and UFOs


Peter Robbins Presents 'Orgone Energy, Wilhelm Reich and UFOs' (from the 15th Annual International UFO Congress Convention & Film Festival) Peter Robbins has been involved in UFO studies for more than 25 years, as a researcher, investigator, writer, lecturer, activist and author. He is a board member of Budd Hopkins' Intruders Foundation and is co-author of Left at East Gate: A First-Hand Account of the Bentwaters-Woodbridge UFO Incident, Its Cover-Up and Investigation. Robbins has lectured extensively both in the States and abroad. His topics have included the U.K.’s RAF Bentwaters-Woodbridge UFO incident; the suppression of UFO information by the American and British Governments; James Vincent Forrestal, first Secretary of Defense and early casualty of UFO secrecy; Dr. Wilhelm Reich and UFOs; the UFO abduction phenomenon; crop circles, and the media and UFOs.

7602609578301856050

Swami
10th May 2010, 17:02
Wilhelm Reich's Discoveries
by James DeMeo, Ph.D.

Around 1970, during my studies at the university, I became intrigued with the writings of the late Dr. Wilhelm Reich on the controversial subjects of "biological energy" and his thesis that blocked emotions and sexual repression led to mental illness and neurosis. I met and studied with some of the scientists who had worked with Reich, experienced the orgone therapy Reich had developed, undertook simple experiments, and eventually became the first student at a mainstream American university to earn a Ph.D. for scientifically testing Reich's ideas.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sPV-JExUPns


Today, through the non-profit Orgone Biophysical Research Laboratory (OBRL) (http://www.orgonelab.org/index.htm), Reich's original discoveries are preserved, and presented in summer educational laboratory seminars. (http://www.orgonelab.org/events.htm)

http://www.orgonelab.org/wrhistory.htm

HORIZONS
10th May 2010, 19:01
Swami, thanks for the posts - very informative - they are much appreciated.

Swami
10th May 2010, 20:07
Swami, thanks for the posts - very informative - they are much appreciated.

Search...... and you will find...
The third one's funny....


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=09Wl8W0HnAg


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TJ4C4mOG1fw


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YMJMiIu1FBs

Swami
10th May 2010, 20:13
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V6hXqITNHyU


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B_6JljLO8z4


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bGduFWRYBjs

concerned square
12th May 2010, 17:24
..........

Swami
12th May 2010, 17:42
@ Swami
Is that kate bush video taken from a movie? it's unusual to see an actor in a music video.

As far as I know it was only for the clip.........

concerned square
12th May 2010, 17:56
..........

Swami
12th May 2010, 18:09
:(I was afraid you were going to say that. It would make for an excellent movie.

The life of Wilhelm Reich itself is a beautiful script for a movie..... a sad one thoo

leavesoftrees
13th May 2010, 08:23
@ Swami
Is that kate bush video taken from a movie? it's unusual to see an actor in a music video.

Yes she talks about it here

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a6uwL...eature=related

Donald Sutherland agreed to take part in the clip, which is based on Peter Reich's book

Swami
13th May 2010, 08:37
Link doesn't work, no tube behind it......

bluestflame
13th May 2010, 09:21
thank you for this thread , I am very interested in building orgone accumulators' generators and transmuters , am currently exploring these themes and applications ..hint : look at some of the crop circles

Swami
13th May 2010, 10:15
..hint : look at some of the crop circles

Care to elaborate.....?

DIY Chembuster:

http://www.orgonite.info/how-to-make-chembusters.html

DIY Towerbuster:

http://www.orgonite.info/how-to-make-orgonite-tbs.html

DIY Holy Handgrenades:

http://www.orgonite.info/how-to-make-orgonite-hhgs.html

DIY Earthpipes:

http://www.orgonite.info/how-to-make-orgonite-eps.html

Connecting with Sauce
8th June 2010, 15:06
from what I have read... it doesn't really matter what metals (except never use lead) are used... its just that some people have knowledge of the different metal energies and want to make a HHG specially energized for specific healing effects...

and what I am concluding -from all the posts and boards- is that the metal-resin combination attracts the EMF energy and the crystal re-transforms the DOR into POR

Metals are important... Here is a thread I started on the old forum with some good info links...

http://projectavalon.net/forum/showthread.php?t=13363&highlight=gold+aura

Copper is a positive aura metal (130%) so copper would be better than Aluminium (68%) ( i.e. an Aura degrader...)

********

I saw this guy Stephane Cardinaux this last weekend at the Stars and Stones event in Bury I posted last week… fascinating event , I highly recommend it to people on here where people like us meet to try and 'work it out'….

"here Stephan adds more detail to his measurement experience:"Variations of the (body's aura) vital field in the presence of a metal patch (10cm /10cm) - placed in front of the breast - Metals are placed in the lessening order- Gold 160 %, Silver 140 %, Copper 130 %, Zink 113 %, Titanium 110 %, ----Normal vital field 100 %, Nickel 79 %, Iron 76 %, Aluminium 68 %, Lead 58 % - - ................ average values for non allergic persons to certain metals.."

More information here...
http://www.goldenmean.info/geobiology/

The metals specifically boost certain chakras and this specific data is not here on site but is in his latest book (French). Aluminium and Mercury (52% amalgam) specifically lower the 3rd eye chakra area!!! It could be the link to chemtrails and why they are only in populated areas where the 'crop' is. Barium is quite a rare metal and wasn't tested but I bet it does something similar and is not good... In "minerals for the genetic code" barium is not good.

The PM metals boost the chakra and tend to be the higher chakra's hence crowns etc being made from these metals with crystals inlaid in them.


*******

The protector pendant I use has copper and titanium in it... if it had PM's it may be more effective :) The 3 interlinked dolphins may be from gold leaf...

http://www.worldwithoutparasites.com/The_Harmonic_Protector.html

I had a Tower Buster (from whale.to ) on my work desk at work and it seems to have disappeared... I'll have to bring another one in an bluetak it under the desk out of sight. Hopefully blue tack doesn't degrade the orgonites properties :)

Fina
20th June 2010, 11:53
Interesting, Sauce, thanks for the link.

Now, what effects could one expect if one had a Titanium Intrathecal Pump implanted inside them? Or any other type of medical device eg Pacemaker?

{Pity we live too far away from anyone with an Aura camera...}

This maybe isn't relevant, but, every day when I am getting dressed, I think about the energies / concentration / emotional strength I think I will need to face whatever is on that day, and look at my earrings to see which ones to wear that day?
Some days, I am drawn strongly to certain pairs - maybe the different types of metals / natural materials help or detract from ones energies?

I remember someone telling me to never wear earrings with crystals, as they 'sing to each other'. {Might be worth trying it one to see??}


I have worn the same 'torque' bangle 24/7 for nearly 30 years, occasionally swapping it for a 'dressier' one for special occasions - but always replacing it with the old one as soon as I get home. I dowsed all my jewellery once, to 'ask' what was 'good' for me - the bangle was very good.

... now, "The Kara is a metal bangle worn on a Sikh's wrist. This seeks to deter the Sikh from committing any type of sin. For most sins and crimes are committed through the hands, hence the Kara would always be seen by the Sikh."

... is there a link here? The effects of metals on one's energy fields and therefore one's emotional state & behaviour...


I decided, in my wisdom, a while ago, that people with arthritis who wear Copper bangles could be benefiting by absorbing 'nano-copper' through the skin- same as absorbing 'nano-silver' from rings. {When I dowse to see if I need to take any Colloidal Silver, I always get a 'no'- I concluded it could be because I wear 2 silver rings? I took off the 2 gold ones when they dowsed 'bad'.}

Now, are copper & other metal 'torque style' bangles also helping by some form of energy being transmitted across 'the gap'?
Or, is this purely the effects of the metal on the chakras / energy field? {for solid bangles}

Is this the same / similar principle as how the Wands of Horus work?


Or, do I need to get out more?! :)

Solphilos
20th June 2010, 16:25
...placebo effects or not- if it's cheap, and helping people enjoy a better quality of life, what the heck?!

Same can be said for anything really. But I agree with you.
There are many snake-oil cures out there that work for people by placebo alone. It is my strong opinion that "orgonite" is one of them, but hey, it doesn't cost much to make, and it's actually quite fun! After my personal research with it, I continued to make the stuff because it makes pretty art, which can be healing in itself.
Also, placebo aside, when one creates "orgonite", they are probably doing so with the intention of it being a healing/protecting device. Any time we create, we imbue our creation with our own personal energy and intention. Also, crystals are a key component to these objects, and we are all aware of the abilities of crystals to store, transmit and transmute energy.

Swanny
4th August 2010, 18:17
I had a go at making some.
The pointy ones have a crystal, copper wire and stainless steel in the other don't have copper wire in
:tinfoil3:


http://i31.tinypic.com/2e3zbm1.jpg


The other night after putting the points in the four corners of the house I had a bit of a restless nights sleep and a very strong dream.
In the dream I was walking along a road going up a hill when I met a girl who told me she is going to be my girlfriend, she then started telling me about hows it's possible to swap your concious from one body to another, strange girl but I like her :p

Deega
5th August 2010, 01:52
I had a go at making some.
The pointy ones have a crystal, copper wire and stainless steel in the other don't have copper wire in
:tinfoil3:

The other night after putting the points in the four corners of the house I had a bit of a restless nights sleep and a very strong dream.
In the dream I was walking along a road going up a hill when I met a girl who told me she is going to be my girlfriend, she then started telling me about hows it's possible to swap your concious from one body to another, strange girl but I like her :p


Hi Swanny,

I think you had a great experience doing "orgonites", great!, keep on doing, people will benefit from the EMF negative vibrations.

Tell me, do you see any connection, orgonites and your dream...?

All my blessings.

Deega

Olam
5th August 2010, 02:57
I love pouring for orgone.
Its one of the best meditations I can do. I'm busy, but very still inside.
Put 2 pyramids on top of my small speakers. Thats great activation with the electro magnetic speaker feild.
I have some, maybe 10ft apart everywhere in the appartment.
I love the soft cushy space/time feel I get from my local reality.

bluestflame
5th August 2010, 03:28
am experimenting with adding dried and powdered herbs such as ginger , rosemary etc. to the orgone mix for herbal infusion

Olam
5th August 2010, 03:32
I tried Magnolia leaves in all ways. Not easy!...they all become brown. Sacred white sage works great I find. It stays intact.

bluestflame
5th August 2010, 03:37
even plant juices as plants by thier nature gather the earths minerals and concentrate them

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maybe ill look at including specific types of seeds , cos they seem to hold thier integrity

Deega
5th August 2010, 17:24
I love pouring for orgone.
Its one of the best meditations I can do. I'm busy, but very still inside.
Put 2 pyramids on top of my small speakers. Thats great activation with the electro magnetic speaker feild.
I have some, maybe 10ft apart everywhere in the appartment.
I love the soft cushy space/time feel I get from my local reality.

Hi Olam,

I would appreciate you tell me what type of mould you're using for the pyramid one, I experience a metal one, used pam oil before pouring, when hard, in getting the orgone out the mould, the tip of the pyramid came off. Do you use plastic mould and if so, where do you buy them...?

Many thanks.

All my blessings.

Deega

Swanny
5th August 2010, 18:38
Hi Swanny,

I think you had a great experience doing "orgonites", great!, keep on doing, people will benefit from the EMF negative vibrations.

Tell me, do you see any connection, orgonites and your dream...?

All my blessings.

Deega

Hi Deega
No idea but it did seem a very strong dream and that was the first night I had the Orgonite in place.
Going to put a little one in the roof so my house becomes sort of a pyramid :)

Swami
5th August 2010, 19:27
How much Admiral....?
Including shipment to the Netherlands....?

bluestflame
5th August 2010, 19:32
can make up a flask like they do for sand casting , or plaster of paris

Victoria Tintagel
5th August 2010, 22:27
Hi there, these Orgone devices are pretty interesting, I like to make some myself and wonder if clear paraffin or clear beeswax is good enough to be used, as an alternative of resin?
It doesn't smell so bad and is a lot cheaper. I guess by melting some white paraffin candles (paraffin is a byproduct of the gasoline fabrication, so it's organic) or a chunk of clear paraffin or beeswax, au bain marie, could make a working orgone device, as long as the device is placed in a relatively cool place. Not in a tropical climate, because it would melt. Beeswax has a lower melting point then paraffin. I am a candlemaker, so........ that's why this idea came up.

Swanny
6th August 2010, 07:42
How much Admiral....?
Including shipment to the Netherlands....?

Free :)

Grr saying free is too short a message

Ok for you my friend no charge
stupid forum rules :p

bluestflame
6th August 2010, 08:36
I think many use resin cos it's more hardy in the suns rays outdoors whereas beeswax melts at a lower temp

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perhaps a beeswax core and encase it in a shell of resin

witchy1
4th December 2010, 06:48
Thought I migh bump this thread having only just discovered organite. do people have some more photos to put up, and is there anyone who would like to share their experience with it.

Is there a place in Oz to obtain the relevant ingrediants or buy these???

Carmody
21st December 2010, 06:25
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?6830-Space-plane-goes-missing/page6

Just..uhm... take that page under consideration....when contemplating Orgone device design. Warning. Be very very careful. We're talking about the devices you use now being like a dribble... in comparison to building orgone devices as an elecret, which would be like a firehose. They would start resonating with a field intensity and note that is somewhere in the 100x range of greater potency than normal. What it is, is that the electret is a device that has a permanent field.

Since the the orgone device resonates like a reed in a wind, causing disturbance and resonance that impinges upon us in either a negative or positive way, depending on design and execution (build) parameters...if we add in a large electrostatic field that is oriented and polarized by the shape of the device as well as it's construction..well..we get something that has a huge and incredibly sensitive reed that can strike a humongous note, and really fire up a large area.

bluestflame
21st December 2010, 08:41
http://www.littlemountainsmudge.com/shorty.htm

"The Shorty Device by Jon Logan

This simple design is rather primitive compared to most of the stuff I make now, but as long as it is used and maintained responsibly, it works reasonably well. It works better when used in conjunction with focused attention, like other more powerful variants of the 'Succor Punch' style of hand-held scalar / orgone device. The design is easily modified to allow for an audio signal to drive the coil."

""SHORTY" is a pocket orgone tool designed to stabilize a person's energy fields and offer protection against energetic and psychic attack. It may also be used as a small beamer or wand.

Like other devices which create standing or scalar waves inside a quartz crystal, Shorty can be used as an intent amplifier, and creates a field of orgone energy with a beam emerging from the xtal points. Shorty does not require electrical power, but is powered by orgone energy and ambient electromagnetic fields. The device is designed to be carried on the person, preferably on the left side, as a defensive shield/stabilizer against the rampant proliferation of mind control technology, concerted psychic attacks on individuals and groups of people, and other harmful nasty stuff. *grin* this device is one of many of a new generation of free technology, easy to build and it works. did I mention it doesn't take batteries?

Parts list:
- Either 1 dt quartz crystal, at least 2" x 1/2"... or 2 st quartz crystals, each at least 1" x 3/4".
- About 1 foot of 15 gage copper magnet wire.
- About 16 feet of 22 gage insulated wire.
- 3 slivers of kyanite, about 1/8" x 1/8" x 1/2"
- Aluminum tape or Aluminum foil
- Electrical tape
- Hot melt glue
- 2 crimp connectors to fit 15 gage wire... or 2 small twist connectors (marrettes)
- Utility knife and Pliers (crimping tool for connectors if using)
(st= single terminate, dt= double terminate)"

http://www.littlemountainsmudge.com/shorty.htm

home of "Wizzer's Workshop is now in it's 9th year of supporting the DIY experimenter's community with informational resources."
http://www.littlemountainsmudge.com/

webyourstuff
14th January 2011, 00:13
john d; thanks for the links...

the Love For Gifting site looks great... I didn't think anyone else was doing orgonite devices... this will be tremendous help for me.

I have the resin and several types of scrub pad metals and plastic mini cups for the molds, but I was wondering if I really needed the crystals (if so ... I will have to wait till my next paycheck)?

:cool:I've seen orgone devices being sold on ebay... A new source of income for you?

Also, I have seen videos on youtube, of people making them.

(I especially like the cloudbusters!) Good luck!

anikohu
14th January 2011, 01:38
It is lot of funn;) I made a medium size chemthbuster and also spreaded lot of orgone muffins around my house. Works greeeet!!!
Inside my house it is just amazing the result for the plants- they are gorgeous and we have very little sun. You can test how effective is your orgone. Put the ready orgone muffin or whatever object you have into a plastic contaner and covered with water. Place it to the freezer for a day or two,,,, You'll see the formations how effective is the orgone. Lot of funn and usefull project to help you and your family, friends and your environment......
I recently made an other project. I made a 10" hard paper piramid. this is also fun. I put my old cellphone under for 30 hours the phone was fully charged. Im working on testing what else i can do with that.,,,,,
Well, as we know we getting closer and closer to heal ourself and have free energy and as farr as i concern for the PTB is going down. :p

bluestflame
14th January 2011, 02:46
maybe make orgone "dohnuts" large dohnut shaped orgone device to go round the base of potplants to interact with and enhance the living vegetation ( just put a crystal in the bottom of the pot before planting )

or an orgone "tube"

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I had similar thoughts when trying to come up with ideas on how to use the principle to infuse good energy into drinking water , like a cup holder type setup

Paladin14
24th January 2011, 07:29
This is the first I've heard of Orgone Devices, I am definitely going to make some molds and try this out. Thank you all for the great info!

nomadguy
24th January 2011, 08:00
Ever heard of Dan Winter? Tons about Orgone or "Phase Conjugate Dielectric".
http://www.fractalfield.com/pyraphi/
http://www.goldenmean.info/book1/

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DStMMnAKsKA

The discovery called "orgone" leads to a whole new branch of thinking...

Paladin14
24th January 2011, 09:15
Thank you for this. I was just thinking about making a model of a ideal/dream home incorporating aquaponics and self sustainability, now I have to incorporate sacred geometry into the structure. of course! of course!

Paladin14
27th January 2011, 05:47
I've been searching the internets for info regarding what metals to use. This is new to me and exciting, I can see I will be making a hobby out of this. But anyway check out the photos on this page http://www.warriormatrix.com/about7395.html

It shows "Kirlian" photographs of some Orgone amulets made with various metals.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kirlian_photography

Kirlian photography refers to a form of photogram made with voltage. It is named after Semyon Kirlian, who in 1939 accidentally discovered that if an object on a photographic plate is connected to a source of voltage an image is produced on the photographic plate.

"Kirlian said that the image he was studying might be compared with the human aura."

this confirms the metals list and link posted by Connecting with Sauce, in that Gold and Copper are showing a bright life force energy

omeriko
12th February 2011, 15:29
thank you for this thread , I am very interested in building orgone accumulators' generators and transmuters , am currently exploring these themes and applications ..hint : look at some of the crop circles

Before you start, it's not something to rush into. There can be side effects and unforeseen accidents.
Check out this article by James DeMeo.
http://www.orgonelab.org/sobuildaclb.htm

I understand you can get zapped while the Cloudbuster is working; and you can cause famine instead of rain if operated with ignorance.

I want to research the Cloudbuster too, though I want to also know why it works than only why.
That's why I started reading Reich's books. I'm currently finishing the first one (first for me), "The Function of the Orgasm". Which is a rundown of how his theories were developed.

good luck, all of you.

peterspm
14th February 2011, 08:00
they locked him up for making rain, they didn't like him because he was a communist, and advocated premarital sex, and teenage sex back when even talking about it would get you arrested.
be that as it may, orgone energy is real, and one can make rain, and bust up chemtrails.

loveandgratitude
27th April 2011, 11:34
Wilhelm Reich and the Orgone Energy

Wilhelm Reich is one of the most intelligent, courageous and generous human beings in history. His contributions to humanity are invaluable. He once said that his work is for the future. To understand Reich, one must read Reich's own works. The short book "Liisten! Little Man" is the most accessible to laypersons, and the book 'The Mass Psychology of Fascism" is the classic analysis of fascism. Both books are timeless. Rest in Peace, Wilhelm Reich.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sPV-JExUPns

Wilhelm Reich - Private Recording (rare)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D0ekuB67Eqw


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PMM1MNyfDX4&feature=related


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kCOic3MuVLQ&feature=related


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jKc7U-GMvak&feature=related


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vLcv1R2Evd8&feature=related

bearcow
27th April 2011, 21:09
One of reich's original inventions
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_IxnfUPOgwas/S3I4Wbx1vtI/AAAAAAAABvY/RXu9cUB8mYE/s320/orgone%2Baccumulator.jpg
orgone accumulator

very effective in gathering yang chi

If you have health problems such as high blood pressure, constipation, skin cancer, or other issues where there is excess yang energy in the system these devices may not be the best modality for you

The orgonite pyramids that Don and Carol Croft have come up with don't do much in my opinion, Reich's original designs are more effective.

shybastid
28th April 2011, 02:11
Bearcow..... The video's show that the pyramids interfer with cell phone towers don't they? Isn't that pretty good results?

The technology looks very encouraging stopping loose waves all over the place.

A lot of people sell new wrist bands at Trade Shows. and They have you stand straight up with your arms out stretched and push down on your arms..and they go down quite easy.... They put a wrist band on you and the results are different. VERY hard for them to move your arms down. Same trying to push you backwards..with same results.

The official explanation is..there is an embedded hologram inj the plastic.. The hologram is used to ground the body,there by shorting out all the waves we get bombarded with...
I wondor if some of the same science applies. My buddy bought one for 80bucks and swears by it.

Here's a promotional ad:
http://www.efx-uk.co.uk/

Here's a skeptics review: http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2010/11/09/when-a-university-helps-promote-nonsense/

I'm still without opinion... but like the ogone science.

bearcow
28th April 2011, 02:52
Bearcow..... The video's show that the pyramids interfere with cell phone towers don't they? Isn't that pretty good results?

If these devices created a field strong enough to neutralize potential harmful effects from a cell phone tower, they would also have a discernible effect on the cell phone towers ability to broadcast it's signal clearly. A orgone accumulator is not intelligent, it cannot discern between good & bad energy. it simply gathers the surrounding orgone in the environment and concentrates it. However, the amount of orgone it can accumulate is finite based upon it's materials/size/shape.

i looked at the product you gave the link to. The manufacturer doesn't give details on how it works, but if it does anything it probably is some form of radionics

Some Bloke
7th May 2011, 00:00
Has anyone bought / built a Chembuster (CB ) I would like to know from some one who isn't selling them what they do.
Is there somewhere i can buy the right size quartz cristals, and Aluminium shavings? and as they use 1 inch 6 foot long pipes in america, does that mean the ratio is 72/1 for the pipe as I live in metric land ?

noxon medem
7th May 2011, 00:21
Wilhelm Reich and the Orgone Energy

Wilhelm Reich is one of the most intelligent, courageous and generous human beings in history. His contributions to humanity are invaluable. He once said that his work is for the future. To understand Reich, one must read Reich's own works. The short book "Liisten! Little Man" is the most accessible to laypersons, and the book 'The Mass Psychology of Fascism" is the classic analysis of fascism. Both books are timeless. Rest in Peace, Wilhelm Reich.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sPV-JExUPns
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sPV-JExUPns&feature=player_embedded
Wilhelm Reich - Private Recording (rare)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D0ekuB67Eqw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D0ekuB67Eqw&feature=player_embedded


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PMM1MNyfDX4&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PMM1MNyfDX4&feature=player_embedded


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kCOic3MuVLQ&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jKc7U-GMvak&feature=player_embedded


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jKc7U-GMvak&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kCOic3MuVLQ&feature=player_embedded


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vLcv1R2Evd8&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vLcv1R2Evd8&feature=player_embedded

been adding some links .

- it is in a shambles, maybe you can sort it out ...
the point being adding links to videos, and possibly
some more comments ..

Some of the posts on these forums would
look very naked and weired if YouTube
should go offline, for some time ...
- or reason ..

all well .
nm

W.C.
7th May 2011, 00:23
Bearcow..... The video's show that the pyramids interfer with cell phone towers don't they? Isn't that pretty good results?

The technology looks very encouraging stopping loose waves all over the place.

A lot of people sell new wrist bands at Trade Shows. and They have you stand straight up with your arms out stretched and push down on your arms..and they go down quite easy.... They put a wrist band on you and the results are different. VERY hard for them to move your arms down. Same trying to push you backwards..with same results.

The official explanation is..there is an embedded hologram inj the plastic.. The hologram is used to ground the body,there by shorting out all the waves we get bombarded with...
I wondor if some of the same science applies. My buddy bought one for 80bucks and swears by it.

Here's a promotional ad:
http://www.efx-uk.co.uk/

Here's a skeptics review: http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2010/11/09/when-a-university-helps-promote-nonsense/

I'm still without opinion... but like the ogone science.

...something to consider:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Piezoelectricity

Connecting with Sauce
12th May 2011, 23:32
I recently built this...

http://www.warriormatrix.com/viewtopic.php?t=8456

Wow... the skys have been clear since I did. I ummmed and aaarrrred about this for far too long... clear blue skys and NO sticking chemtrails... they spray, but they just disperse and disappear... Amazing...

Maia Gabrial
13th May 2011, 01:33
Hey Some Bloke,
I bought my teeny tiny crystals from Clear Creek Crystal Mine for a decent amount. Check out Stuart Schmitt's website at [URL="www.arcrystalmine.com"]
Peace,
Maia

Maia Gabrial
13th May 2011, 01:36
Check out Stuart Schmitt's website at http://www.arcrystalmine.com for crystals. He has all kinds. I just bought real small ones for my orgonite projects....

Snugg
13th May 2011, 15:09
I found this site I believe is orgon technology http://www.neologicaltech.com/category_s/46.htm what do you think? Regard snugg

bearcow
13th May 2011, 15:33
I found this site I believe is orgon technology http://www.neologicaltech.com/category_s/46.htm what do you think? Regard snugg

clearly a scam, $4000 for a piece of copper? Go to home depot and buy some copper pipe.

DianeKJ
13th May 2011, 17:07
I've been wanting to make my own devices for a long time now. I have some wonderful copper shavings I got for free from a friend, a few crystals that I think would be perfect. My only thought or concern is about using the resin for some reason. Anyone use anything different than resin? For some reason I don't want to mess with those chemicals. I would love any thoughts or suggestions about this.
Thanks,
Di

Snugg
13th May 2011, 17:46
Is it orgon technology or not? I didn't ask anyone about a scam. The technology on that site is it orgon technology? Is a yes or no question.

Snugg
13th May 2011, 18:08
My desire to post is to promote this forum with the subject at hand. I only believe in postive post. I do not enjoy post that judge and brand a person or organization in a negative light. I only see a subject as a opertunity to learn from. Even that site is a opertunity to learn from. The point no one person or persons know it all. So don't judge or brand something that is different from what you know. Otherwise you miss a opertunity to grow. Agian what do you thinks is it orgon technology?

bearcow
13th May 2011, 18:10
copper can hold yang chi, like any electrical conductor does. is it a technology? From what i saw on the site i would say it would not be any more efficient in building a charge than any piece of copper bought in a hardware store. that Dr. Jonthan Reed artifact stuff is bunk.

everything is orgone technology, orgone is everywhere.


The point no one person or persons know it all.

I do not not know it all, but i know that $4000 dollars for copper is a scam

Snugg
13th May 2011, 18:48
You keep calling name and brand them as scam. That not the subject at hand. All I am interested in is orgon technology this site appear to have information as well. How the people who run that site that their business is not for you or me to cast our opion on what they do on that site. Keep negative opion to your self. Remember the subject is orgon technology. Do you understand english? Your answer to me is mostly opion that not related to the orgon technology question .I refrian from posting in regard to you.

bearcow
13th May 2011, 19:04
You keep calling name and brand them as scam. That not the subject at hand. All I am interested in is orgon technology this site appear to have information as well. How the people who run that site that their business is not for you or me to cast our opion on what they do on that site. Keep negative opion to your self. Remember the subject is orgon technology. Do you understand english? Your answer to me is mostly opion that not related to the orgon technology question .I refrian from posting in regard to you.

ok, you are free to say what you wish.

Snugg
13th May 2011, 20:14
What I found in that site is very intriguing to me is the secrad geometric. The cube,the tetrahedron cone,and sphere which consist of layered metal and organic in this case the hairs. I find it intriguing that this organization has united all the organ technology pricipal into a all in one system. That is practical. I know cone has frequency, I know hairs is scalar antanna also is dna, crystal, and light. Interesting indeed regard snugg

Snugg
14th May 2011, 02:15
Futhermore I see that the orgon device in that site is both voice and mental activation interaction with the user of the the orgon device. This is fastnating indeed this definately I never heard of this in a organite technology. According to that site the organite device is a computor that is living and conscious not just only that it generate also a stargate or some sort of singlelurity. I find their information very precise with torsion field physic and more advance then what I have read in similiar organite technology.

Snugg
14th May 2011, 03:16
I've been wanting to make my own devices for a long time now. I have some wonderful copper shavings I got for free from a friend, a few crystals that I think would be perfect. My only thought or concern is about using the resin for some reason. Anyone use anything different than resin? For some reason I don't want to mess with those chemicals. I would love any thoughts or suggestions about this.
Thanks,
Di

I got a thought for after review the site http://www.neologicaltech.com/category_s/46.htm and comparing them with welhiem reich there is a different . Reich technology lack advancement in the area of control,voice activation,power increasement,mental interaction, medicine creation,also secrad geometric. In comparison this site organite technology give quality structure information and the control of the device to it full spectrum. This organization really did their homework. They even maped out the frequence in three catergorie that is healing, paraelectric,and lifeforce. Also their orgon device don't need grounding or to be put into water for cleansing. The material that they used is copper flashing ,copper foil, sea shell,hot glue,plastic,and hair. Along with the three secrad platonic solid secrad gemetric of cube,cone,and sphere.
Whoever invented this know exactly what they are doing I see also they use hairs as the orgnic activation aspect of the device that is the cpu or core of the device is made of copper foils layer seperated by plastic and hairs. The site siad the increase in the amount of copper cone, copper foil or increase in copper flashing layer,and increase of human hairs will increase the power level of the organite device. Ok I feel that you now should read the site also and do some some caparison to map out the weakness and strenght of both orgonite device. In construction wise both are simple to make. From 1 through 10 I give riech orgonite device a 4 and that site orgonite device a 1000 . Regard snugg

Some Bloke
1st June 2011, 17:35
I've been wanting to make my own devices for a long time now. I have some wonderful copper shavings I got for free from a friend, a few crystals that I think would be perfect. My only thought or concern is about using the resin for some reason. Anyone use anything different than resin? For some reason I don't want to mess with those chemicals. I would love any thoughts or suggestions about this.
Thanks,
Di

I got a thought for after review the site http://www.neologicaltech.com/category_s/46.htm and comparing them with welhiem reich there is a different . Reich technology lack advancement in the area of control,voice activation,power increasement,mental interaction, medicine creation,also secrad geometric. In comparison this site organite technology give quality structure information and the control of the device to it full spectrum. This organization really did their homework. They even maped out the frequence in three catergorie that is healing, paraelectric,and lifeforce. Also their orgon device don't need grounding or to be put into water for cleansing. The material that they used is copper flashing ,copper foil, sea shell,hot glue,plastic,and hair. Along with the three secrad platonic solid secrad gemetric of cube,cone,and sphere.
Whoever invented this know exactly what they are doing I see also they use hairs as the orgnic activation aspect of the device that is the cpu or core of the device is made of copper foils layer seperated by plastic and hairs. The site siad the increase in the amount of copper cone, copper foil or increase in copper flashing layer,and increase of human hairs will increase the power level of the organite device. Ok I feel that you now should read the site also and do some some caparison to map out the weakness and strenght of both orgonite device. In construction wise both are simple to make. From 1 through 10 I give riech orgonite device a 4 and that site orgonite device a 1000 . Regard snugg

Resin should only be mixed in a well ventilated enviroment, preferably out doors, never use too much hardener and don't do big quantities in one go as it will explode (though the metal shavings in lage quantities will help mitigate this).Thats why he takes his time in the instruction vid.
For hair, can you use dog hair as I've got a lot of that, but not much human hair ?
I've just finished reading "Listen, little man"- and I'll now revel in the irony of joining a queue to say that Reich was a genius. I found his concept (observation) of the 'little man' very similar to Eric Hoffers 'true believer', which was written at about the same time.

Anno
1st June 2011, 19:07
I've been wanting to make my own devices for a long time now. I have some wonderful copper shavings I got for free from a friend, a few crystals that I think would be perfect. My only thought or concern is about using the resin for some reason. Anyone use anything different than resin? For some reason I don't want to mess with those chemicals. I would love any thoughts or suggestions about this.
Thanks,
Di

It depends if you want to make the original Orgonite as made by Reich and the other guy who owns the trademark to the name Orgonite, or the stuff made by that couple in America who add crystals.

Traditional Orgonite just needs a matrix of Organic and None-Organic material, so you can use anything you want aslong as it's Organic. The guy who owns the trademark has videos on youtube but he comes across as a right moody b*st*rd so I can't remember his name. You don't use crystals in traditional orgonite.

The idea of using epoxy resin is that it contracts when it sets, compressing the crystals and causing them to give off a charge like in quartz watches. Essentially making the Orgonite breath. This was done by that American couple, so technically, it's not Orgonite at all, but a 'next step', but everyone uses the name out of simplicity.

So if you want the crystal version, you need to use a resin that compresses when it dries. If you don't, you can use mud if you want. But no crystals as they won't do anything.

The fumes from the resins are toxic but aslong as you do it outside or at least in a well ventilated area, you'll be alright. I would reccomend picking up a simple respirator from a hardware store. Make sure it's the right kind though that is rated to work with fumes and not just a dust mask. A dust mask won't help you. A damp cloth tied around your mouth would work if you were desperate, just don't let it dry out. Also remember that they will continue to give off fumes for a while after they've set, so be careful where you keep them at first. Outside is best.

The Alluminium shavings most people use is also toxic and if you get it from a scrap bin from a machine shop, you can expect it to be contaminated with coolants and lubricants from the machines. It will have also started to oxidise. So I'd reccomend wearing gloves too. Also expect to get a mixture of different grades and alloys of alluminium so any energy field created may be unstable.
The best bet is to get something cheap made of alluminium and take a drill to it. Wear gloves and eye protection if you do this!

As to whether the stuff actually does anything... *shrugs* The people who sell it swear it works but I've not seen any empirical evidence from what I would accept as an independent and properly controlled study. Maybe we could arrange our own?

I'm very wary of overly 'easy answers' to very complex problems. Especially when a trade has sprung up surrounding it.

Maia Gabrial
1st June 2011, 22:29
I've been making my own Orgonites. It seems like they work. I wear one constantly, too; because it keeps negativity away. You can use steel wool, copper scrub pads, metallic powder....not just metallic shavings. Also, if you spiral any wires just know that clockwise spiralling should be placed facing outward in the Orgonites which will bring it's properties outward.
Be sure to cleanse the crystals in water and sea salt in the sun; and then program them for whatever you want them to do.
Maia

bearcow
13th June 2011, 22:50
james demeo's orgone site

http://www.orgonelab.org/

Carmody
14th June 2011, 06:23
If you do a search for 'electret' on this forum, you will find a post by me informing a member about the ideas behind such (electrets) being added into the idea of such devices (orgone)..done as an electret pyramid. Such a device is going to be, er, quite potent. I'm not so sure about the sanity of making one that way. could be dangerous. But the possibilities intrigue, so I mentioned it anyway.

Trail
7th July 2011, 10:39
Has anyone bought / built a Chembuster (CB ) I would like to know from some one who isn't selling them what they do.
Is there somewhere i can buy the right size quartz cristals, and Aluminium shavings? and as they use 1 inch 6 foot long pipes in america, does that mean the ratio is 72/1 for the pipe as I live in metric land ?

Do not use aluminium shavings.. use only metals that are attracted to a magnet.. containing iron.. only this causes the accumulated orgone to be reverted to positive orgone (OR instead of DOR)..

For my TB's i've bought a cheap pack of stainless steel wool cleaning pads and used a scissor to cut it to small pieces..

p.s. Do not touch the copper pipe when ur CB is done. Also make sure its grounded to the earth for best effects.

Connecting with Sauce
24th July 2011, 10:25
Orgone energy is real... and so is a substance you can make with a little resin and metal shavings and some crystals and pipe work and a spare weekend :) and some basic tools most reasonable DIYers have,...

http://www.warriormatrix.com/about8456.html&sid=1995136d353159cef70b6c62e5574c0c

I just built another 2 devices which will be heading outside of Essex :)

Wonderful blue skies and fluffy white clouds about my place with 3 Chembusters on site :) ... the black clouds are too many but no trail to be seen anywhere... they just do not stick AT all... before the 1st was built they used to bind and create an over cast sky within hours of the spraying starting... :) Now... nothing sticks which is great!

2-3 litres of resin, 2-3 kg of metals shavings and some pipe, crystals and tape and some wood and a mold :)

What are you waiting for??

Connecting with Sauce
24th July 2011, 10:37
I built my first buster out of 100% copper based on the research I came across and discussed here:

http://projectavalon.net/forum/showthread.php?t=13363 Energetically copper is more powerful than Aluminium! ...and a positive energy metal...

Copper is 10 times more expensive than aluminium when both are in scrap form so a full copper buster is approximately £100 in raw materials.

I came across too many people on awareness sites who said they worked for me to umm and arrr and dismiss it for any longer. I just bit the bullet and made one and used the time on the Royal wedding day to build it instead of feed my energy elsewhere :) So maybe the first is more powerful due to that, who knows. I know I will continue to build them and I'm looking into a way of building one so people can buy one very cheaply and with a way of minising the costs to them... Watch this space ;) I'm an engineer so I'm going to get creative! I also now how to minimise costs ;) from many years working for F motor co...

Some orgonite pendants use nano powder and gold and other amazing substances...

gandra99
24th September 2011, 20:48
I am interested in your experiences with Orgon energy.
http://www.orgoneblasters.com/make-your-own.htm

onawah
24th September 2011, 22:47
I have had a couple of exposures to orgone producing objects, one was a kind of blaster, and another was a pad. The energy felt good to me. I like the idea of using crystals in conjunction, to amplify the power. Anything to cancel out cell phone tower frequencies is fine with me!

Kristo
24th September 2011, 22:58
I am interested as well, gandra99. I live near some high powered lines (not in my back yard, but too close for comfort). Does anyone know if orgone deflects an this type of energy?

meredith
25th September 2011, 01:16
This might be a good starting point:
http://www.orgonite.info/what-is-orgonite.html
Although nothing replaces your own research and intuition.

Lefty Dave
25th September 2011, 02:15
Educate-yourself.com is where I bought mine years back when the cell phone tower went up 1/4 mile from my door...now they are putting 'smart meters up and down the street...NOT TOO SMART !!!

bearcow
25th September 2011, 02:40
I am interested as well, gandra99. I live near some high powered lines (not in my back yard, but too close for comfort). Does anyone know if orgone deflects an this type of energy?

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?19269-Wilhelm-Reich-and-the-Orgone-Energy

This thread already covers basic questions

i said this regarding orgone accumulators in the previous thread

A orgone accumulator is not intelligent, it cannot discern between good & bad energy. it simply gathers the surrounding orgone in the environment and concentrates it.

Tony
29th September 2011, 11:17
Osho on Prana and Wilhelm Reich Orgone boxes.

Osho - This word prana is very significant, very meaningful, pregnant with meaning. It is made out of two Sanskrit roots. One is pra; pra means the basic unit of energy, the most fundamental unit of energy. And na means energy. Prana means: the most fundamental unit is energy. Matter is just the surface. Prana is the real thing there is -- and it is not a thing at all. It is more like a no-thing, or you can call it almost nothing. Nothing means no-thing. Nothing does not mean nothing; nothing simply means that it is not a thing. It is not solid, it is not static, it is not visible, it is not tangible. It is there, but you cannot touch it. It is there, but you cannot see it. It is there, beyond and beneath every phenomenon. But it is the most fundamental unit; you cannot go beyond it.

Prana is the basic unit of the whole of life. Rocks, trees, birds, man, God, everything is a manifestation of prana, on different levels, on different understandings, on different integrations. The same prana moves and manifests as millions, as many, but the basic unit is one.

Unless you come to know prana within yourself, you will not be able to know what God is. And if you cannot know it within yourself, you cannot know it without, because within you it is so close. That's why Patanjali could know it five thousand years before Albert Einstein and company. Five thousand years is a long time for science to come to understand it, but they were trying from the outside.

Patanjali dived deep into his own being; it was a subjective experience. And science has been trying to know it objectively. If you want to know something objectively, you have taken a very long route. That's why so much delay. If you go within, you have found the shortest route to know what it is.

Ordinarily you don't know who you are, where you are. What are you doing here? People come to me and they say, "What are we doing here? Why are we? For what?" I can understand their confusion, but wherever you are and whatsoever you are doing the problem will remain the same -- unless you understand the source from where you come, unless you understand the basic structure of your being, unless you come to know your prana, your energy.

I have heard, it happened:
Mulla Nasruddin visited a field and filled his bag full of melons. He was about to leave when the owner showed up.
"I was passing by," Mulla began to explain, "when suddenly a strong wind blew me over to the fence and into the field."
"What about the melons?" the owner asked.
"The wind was so strong, sir, that I clutched at anything I could get my hands on. And that's how the melons came loose."
"But who put them into your bag?"
"To tell the truth," Mulla replied, "I was wondering about that myself."

This is the situation. How are you here? Why are you here? Who has put you into the bag? Everybody is wondering. Philosophy, they say, comes out of wonder; but don't go on continuously simply wondering and wondering. Otherwise wondering becomes a sort of wandering. Then you never reach. Rather than simply wondering, try to do something. You are here, that much is certain. You are alert that you are here, that much is also certain. Now these two ingredients are enough for yoga experimentation. You are: the being is there. You are aware that you are: the consciousness is there. These two are enough to make a lab out of your being for yoga experimentation.

Yoga does not need sophisticated, complicated things for its work. It is the simplest. Two things: you and your awareness that you are. Enough. These two you have; everybody has them. Nobody is lacking in these two things. You have a certain feel that you are, and of course you are aware of that certain feel. These two things are enough. That's why yogis had no laboratories, no sophisticated instrumentation -- and they never needed any grant from Rockefeller or Ford. They needed only just a little bread, water, and they will come and beg in the town and will disappear for days. After a week or two they will come again and beg again and they will disappear again.

They did the greatest experiment: the experiment in human reality. And only with two small things, but those small things are not small. Once you know them they are the biggest phenomenon ever. So the first thing about today's sutras is the discovery of prana. That became the very foundation of the temple of yoga. You are breathing. Yoga says you are not only breathing air; you are also breathing prana. In fact air is just a vehicle for prana, just a medium. You are not alive by breath. Breath is just like a horse, and you have not looked at the rider yet. The rider is prana.

Now many psychoanalysts have come across this mysterious thing -- the rider who is coming on the breath, going on the breath, continuously moving in and out. But yet in the West it is not a recognized scientific fact. It should be because now science says matter is no longer there and everything is energy. The stone, the rock, is energy; you are energy. So there must be happening many energy games within you, tides and ebbs of energy.

Freud stumbled upon this fact. I say "stumbled upon it" because his eyes were not open; he was very blindfolded. He was not a yogi. He was again caught in the scientific attitude of making everything objective. He called it "libido." If you ask the yogis they will say libido is prana ill. When prana is not vital, when somehow the energy of prana has become dammed up, blocked; that's what Freud has come to know. And that's explainable because he was working only with ill people, neurotics, mad people, mentals. And working on ill, mentally disturbed people he came to know that their bodies are carrying some blocked energy and unless that energy is released, they will not be healthy again. Yogis say libido is prana gone wrong. It is just a diseased prana. But still Freud stumbled upon something which later on can become very, very significant.

And one of his disciples, Wilhelm Reich, went deeper into it, but he was caught by the American government because he could not prove very scientifically, that is very objectively, what he was saying. He died in jail as a madman, certified as mad. He was one of the greatest men ever born in the West. But again he was working blindfolded. He was not yet working as a yogi has to work. The scientific attitude was his undoing.

Reich tried to make contact with this energy the yogis call prana, and he called it "orgone." "Orgone" is better than "libido" because "libido" gives a feeling as if all is sexual energy. "Orgone" is a better word, more inclusive, more comprehensive, bigger than "libido," and gives a possibility for the energy to move beyond sex or to touch higher realms of being which are not sexual. But he got into trouble because he felt it so much and he observed so much that he started to accumulate the prana energy, the orgone, in boxes. He made orgone boxes. Nothing is wrong in them; yogis have been working on that for centuries. That's why yogis try to live in almost boxlike caves, with only one small door.

Now those caves look very unhygienic, and how did they live there for years? No air goes in because there is no cross ventilation. So dark, dingy, and yogis have lived so perfectly and so healthily that it is almost a miracle. What were they doing there and how were they living there? According to the modern Scientific ideology they should have died, or at the most they should have lived as very ill people, depressed; but yogis have never been depressed. They are one of the most vital people to come across, very alive. What were they doing? What was happening? They were creating orgone, and for orgone to stay in a particular place, cross ventilation is not needed; in fact cross ventilation wi]l not allow the orgone to accumulate because once the air comes there the orgone energy is a rider -- it jumps on the air and moves out. No air passage is needed; then layers upon layers of orgone go on accumulating, and one can thrive on it and live on it.

Wilhelm Reich created small orgone boxes, and he he]ped many ill people. He will tell them just to lie down in the orgone box, and he will close the box and tell them to rest; and within an hour the person is out, feeling very vital, alive, tingling all over with energy. And many people have reported that their diseases disappeared after a few experimentations with the orgone.

The orgone box was so effective that without knowing the laws of the country and without bothering about them, Wilhelm Reich started to produce them on a mass basis and he started selling them. Then he was caught by the Food and Drug Administration and he was asked to prove it. Now it is difficult to prove because the energy is not tangible. You cannot show it to anybody. It is an experience; and a very inner experience.

You don't ask Albert Einstein to show electrons, but you can believe in him because you can go and see Nagasaki and Hiroshima. You can see the effect; you cannot see the cause, Nobody has yet seen the atom, but the atom is, because it can produce effects.
Buddha has defined truth as that which can produce effects. Buddha's very definition of truth is very beautiful. Never again and never before has there been such a beautiful definition of truth: that which can produce effects. If it can produce effects it is true.

Nobody has seen the atom, but we have to believe it because of Nagasaki and Hiroshima. But nobody listened to Wilhelm Reich and his patients. There were many who were ready to certify, "We have been cured," but this is how -- once some attitude becomes generally accepted -- people become blind. They said, "All these people are hypnotized. In the first place they must not have been ill -- or they have imagined themselves cured -- or it is nothing but suggestibility." Now you cannot go and tell people who have died in Hiroshima, "You have imagined that you are dead"; they have simply disappeared.
Just see the thing: death is more believable than life.

And the whole modern world is more death-oriented than life-oriented. If you kill a person you will be reported by all the newspapers; you will become a headline. But if you revive a person, nobody will ever come to know about it. If you murder, your name becomes a famous name, but if you give life to people, nobody is going to believe in you. They will say you are a charlatan or a deceiver.

That has always been so. Nobody believed Jesus; they killed him. Nobody believed Socrates; they killed him. They have killed even a very innocent man like Aesop, the famous story teller. He never did anything, he never created a religion or a philosophy, and he was not saying anything against anybody. He was just creating a few beautiful parables. But those parables offended people because he was saying such great truths in those parables and in such a simple way that he was murdered.

You go on killing people who have been affirmative, life enhancing. You ask for proofs.
If somebody comes to me and asks what I am doing here, it will be difficult. If you certify, they will say you have gone mad. This is something. If somebody is against me, they will believe him; if somebody is for me, they will not believe him. If somebody is against -- howsoever foolish -- they will not argue with him; they will say, "Right." And if somebody is with me and for me -- howsoever intelligent -- they will laugh; knowingly they will say, "I know, you are hypnotized." Ask Dr. Phadnis; people say that he is hypnotized.

This is a vicious circle of argumentation. If I convince you, you are hypnotized; if I cannot convince you, I am wrong. So either way I am wrong. If somebody is convinced....

It happened. Swabhav is here. A few years before, he came with his two brothers; all the three had come to argue with me. And Swabhav was the most argumentative of all the three; but he is a sincere man, and simple. He became by and by convinced. He had come as a leader with the other two brothers; then he became convinced. Then the other two became against him. Now they say he is hypnotized. They have stopped coming; they won't listen to me. Now they are afraid: if Swabhav can be hypnotized, they can also be hypnotized. They avoid, and they have created a protective defense mechanism around them. If I can convince another brother -- because I know one can be convinced still -- then the remaining one will become more defensive; and then he will say, "Two brothers gone." And the remaining one is also very good-hearted; there is a possibility for him also. Then the whole family will think all the three have gone mad.
This is how things go. If you cannot convince, you are wrong; if you can convince, then too you are wrong.

Many people, very intelligent people, PhD's, professors, psychoanalysts -- certified -- but the court wouldn't listen. They said they are all conspirators in the same game. "Show us where orgone energy is! Open the box and let us see where it is. It is an ordinary box, there is nothing. And you are selling it, deceiving people, cheating."

Wilhelm Reich died in a prison. It seems humanity is not going to learn anything from history; it goes on repeating the same, again and again. Why are you so much against love, because orgone energy is love energy? Why are you so much against life and why are you so much in favor of death? Something has not evolved in you. You are so unalive that you cannot believe that life has more and higher possibilities. And if somebody reaches to a higher peak, you cannot believe that that is possible. You have to deny. It becomes almost an offense to you.

If I say I am God, it becomes an offense. I am simply saying that you can also become gods, never settle for less. But you feel offended. And you are living only two percent of your possibilities; ninety eight percent of your possibilities are being wasted. As if you were given a hundred days to live and you lived only two days and died. Even your great thinkers, painters, musicians, geniuses, they live only fifteen percent of their potentiality.
If you can blaze to your utmost, you become a god. The situation is such that I would like to tell you one anecdote to explain it.

Cohen bumped into Levy Isaacs who was looking terribly dejected.
"What is the matter?" he asked.
"I am bankrupt," said a quiet Isaacs. "My business failed."
"Oh, well," said Cohen, "what about the property in your wife's name?"
"There is no property in my wife's name."
"Well, then, what about the property in your children's names?"
"There is no property in my children's names?"
Cohen put his hand on Levy's shoulder, "Levy, you are very mistaken. You are not bankrupt -- you are ruined."

This is the situation where you are: not only bankrupt, ruined. If you don't become alive, if you don't revitalize your prana and energy, you are ruined -- and you will live with the false idea that you lived. And you are supported by the whole mass of people around you because they are almost as dead as you are, so you think this is the rule. This is not the rule.

The effort towards religion starts only when you catch hold of this -- -this sutra, this thread -- that whatsoever you are doing is almost nothing. You are wasting a great opportunity. Unless you start feeling God within you, never settle for anything. It is okay if you stop for a night's rest, okay, but by the morning start going. Remember it as a criterion that your fulfillment is your godhood. When your prana flowers you are God. Right now your prana is just crawling on the earth -- not even standing and walking.

I have heard about one beggar who knocked at a big house. The lady of the house opened the door. The man immediately did a shashtang, he bowed down with his whole body on the earth. He crawled at her feet. A very strong man, healthy, perfectly healthy and young. The lady said, "What are you doing? Why are you wasting your energy and crawling at people's feet? Why don't you work! Why do you go on asking, begging, crawling!"
The man looked up and said, "Lady, I am a very scientific man. I am moving alphabetically."
The lady said, "What do you mean, alphabetically?"
He said, "Asking -- A. Begging -- B. Crawling C. Work is very, very far away...."
Alphabetically! Don't be so alphabetical.

If you are using your prana only for sex purposes, you are crawling. Unless the energy moves to the sahasrar, unless the prana comes to your crown of the head, to your very peak, you will not be able to fly in the sky. You will remain imprisoned and you will remain miserable. Happiness is when you are flying. Happiness is when the sky is vast, unlimited. Happiness is when you have learned the pinnacle, the crescendo of your being, when you have touched the highest peak.

Source - Osho Book "Yoga: The Alpha and The Omega, Vol8"

Tony
29th September 2011, 18:29
I find this fascinating. During the summer I met someone who knew Wilhem Reich and used his Accumulator. This video shows how it works. His work was so important, that he was arrested and jailed for two years. Two day before his release he died of a heart attack.....? Orgone, could be what drives HARRP and could actually be dark matter...?




http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sPV-JExUPns&feature=related


All the best
Tony

Tony
29th September 2011, 18:44
Something so banned must be interesting!!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wvSCMoT9vAg&feature=related

butcherman
29th September 2011, 19:53
thanks tony will look into this one


Butcherman

DNA
29th September 2011, 19:57
I find this fascinating. During the summer I met someone who knew Wilhem Reich and used his Accumulator. This video shows how it works. His work was so important, that he was arrested and jailed for two years. Two day before his release he died of a heart attack.....? Orgone, could be what drives HARRP and could actually be dark matter...?




http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sPV-JExUPns&feature=related


All the best
Tony

I was looking for usefull material on the subject and it turns out that someone at Camelot posted a really good Q&A on Reich. In Tribute to Dr. Wilhelm Reich (http://www.projectcamelot.org/reich.html)

Most notable are the UFO's Reich seemed to have show up whenever he started doing his cloud busting experiments in Arizona.
It was this that seemed to expedite his ass into the imprisonment and execution that then took place.

My questions are this.
1. Did Wilhiem Reich discover somethiing that could have furthered the growth of humanity exponentially and was he shut down by,,,,a government infiltrated so to speak by an offworld presence as Charles Forte had hinted at earlier?

2.Or,,,did Wilhiem Riech stumble on to something that proved invaluable in "combating" UFO's, and was his research then applied to that purpose?

3. Did Wilhiem Riech's death follow the official story? Or was he secretly offered a deal he "couldn't refuse" and then whisked away to one of the underground millitary research bases to continue his research without publicity?

PurpleLama
29th September 2011, 20:28
I am pretty sure Reich was murdered, possibly for having developed devices that cheaply cure illnesses that would otherwise make the medical/pharma establishment lotsa money. That's what I recall from a bunch of research done years ago. Glad to see your interest in this topic, tony, it's a juicy one!

The One
28th February 2012, 13:22
Franz Anton Mesmer called it animal magnetism; Charles von Reichenbach called it odyle. To Henri Bergson it was the elan vital, the "vital force;" while to Hans Driesch it was the entelechy . Sigmund Freud observed its functioning in human emotions and termed it libido. William MacDougall, the great British - American psychologist of a generation ago, labeled it hormic energy. Dozens, if not hundreds, of lesser - known scientists have recognized its presence and have given it a name to characterize its special properties. Among the 20th-century proponents of the concept are, for example, Doctors Charles Littlefield and his vital magnetism and George Starr White and his cosmo-electric energy . Mechanistic science in the 17th through 19th centuries embraced many of its essential qualities in the concept of the ether, while mystical human beings have embraced other essential qualities of it in the concept of god.

Orgone energy is Wilhelm Reich's name for the substratum from which all nature is created. The best definition this author can provide for it is this: Orgone energy is the creative force in nature. This article will discuss briefly the history of the discovery of orgone energy by Reich and will describe its properties. It will then summarize the evidence for and against the concept and, finally, will undertake to explain why it is that the concept meets such great resistance.

Reich's Discovery of Orgone Energy

Orgone energy was originally discovered by Wilhelm Reich in his psychiatric work. As a psychoanalyst and student of Freud, Reich's point of departure was, quite naturally, Freud's concept of "libido. " "Libido" is life energy, desire, the source of human striving. Reich developed the libido concept, concentrating on its physical expression and simultaneous psychological content, until he was able to show the relation of bodily attitude and emotion. This he described in CHARACTER ANALYSIS, a book which went further than any work in history in solving the mystery of the relation' of mind and body. In this great book Reich also described the mass pathology of the animal man, This pathology consists of a chronic rigidity of the musculature which blocks the movement of energy underlying emotion and hence blocks the emotion, thus providing the psychic or emotional underpinning of mankind's universal sickness.

Reich's initial work on orgone energy was done, then, in depth psychology. From this it spread, quite naturally, into sociology and political science, for Reich saw quite clearly that the sickness of man was socially or culturally transmitted. His books, THE MASS PSYCHOLOGY OF FASCISM, THE SEXUAL REVOLUTION and PEOPLE IN TROUBLE deal with this enlargement of his depth psychological discoveries to the social and political scene.

It was natural for a mind like Reich's to generalize and deepen his understanding of libidinal energy, and as he did his medical work expanded beyond the field of psychiatry into more general areas of medicine and biology. The concept of libidinal energy developed into the more concrete concept of "bioelectricity," which soon proved not to be electricity and in time was renamed "orgone energy." Books dealing with this phase of Reich's discoveries are THE FUNCTION OF THE ORGASM and THE CANCER BIOPATHY. These books constitute Volumes 1 and 2 of THE DISCOVERY OF THE ORGONE, Reich's presentation to the world of the discovery of orgone energy.

Although orgone energy was first discovered in the human body, Reich learned through painstaking observation and experiment that it existed in free form in the atmosphere. With this finding, Reich's work transcended the boundaries of biology and entered the realm of meteorology and atmospheric physics. These developments are described in THE CANCER BIOPATHY, THE ORANUR EXPERIMENT, and a series of articles which are covered under the general title of "weather control studies, " published in scientific journals.

The final and most general stage of Reich Is discoveries was the cosmic function of orgone energy in the universe, and Reich here entered the realms of astronomy and astrophysics. Reich's books dealing with this stage were COSMIC SUPERIMPOSITION and ETHER, GOD AND DEVIL.

As Reich progressed from the realm of psychiatry and medicine to biology, and from biology to physics, his concept of the energy which was the focus of all his scientific work retained its essential features. His understanding of the energy grew, and new properties were discovered, but the properties that had been discovered in the earlier, narrower realms remained true in the newer and broader ones. Through Reich's work runs the remarkable "red thread," the connectedness that shows each discovery to be a logical progression from the previous one, and each broader realm of nature studied to include the previous more restricted realm

Reich did not set out to discover "cosmic" truth; he was never attempting to revolutionize scientific
thought; he was not attempting to make "great" discoveries. Reich simply observed and experimented from day to day, setting down what he found, studying it honestly, and organizing the facts as they appeared, without forcing them into any pre -conceived framework. What he found was that the same energy which flowed in the sexual embrace was present in all nature, "living" and "non-living," and that it governed the most significant and widespread natural functions. Reich found that the same orgone energy underlay each of these classes of phenomena:

1. Consciousness

Sensation
Emotion
Perception
Thought

2. Life

Animal movement
Biogenesis
Reproduction
Evolution
Growth

3. Atmospheric and cosmic processes

Clouds
Storms
Atmospheric electricity
Creation of matter at every scale
(atom, planet, star, galaxy)

These three realms correspond to the sequence of Reich's discoveries, from his beginning in psychiatry through biology to physics, each realm including the previous. They are in inverse order with respect to our knowledge about them, however; for Reich explored the realm of psychiatry in breadth and depth, the broader realm of biology in a much more limited way, and only made a good start in his exploration of atmospheric and cosmic processes

More here http://www.orgone.org/articles/ax9kelley1a.htm

Russ1959
19th April 2012, 15:25
I would love to know whether any forum members use Orgonite at home and what positive results they get...or not?
There are many instructional videos on you tube on how to make these scalers at home so I have made my own having followed the instructions on these enclosed videos.
I have to say my wife and I sleep much better (or much deeper anyway) having placed a scaler directly under our bed!
We also place the scalers near electrical appliances such as pc's, television and our electrical meter.
I cant say for sure these are making any difference but according to other users they turn negative energy into positive energy and improve the chi.
My next project will be to make a cloud buster to knock out those darn chemtrails!
So I would greatly value any input from members who have had measured success in doing the same!

Blessings

Russ


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WpEDvX1XoEI


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_yxTotA604M

xeon
19th April 2012, 16:01
I have used orgonite for the past few years. In fact, I have one sitting in front of my PC monitor right now, and another one sitting on top of the electricity socket in my bedroom.

I have never measured its effects (good or bad), but I do sense/feel that it helps deflect negative energy being emanated from electrical devices and sources. This of course could be clouded by what I've been reading about orgonite.

Avocadess
19th April 2012, 16:34
I have orgonite on a necklace I wear every day for the past couple of years. (I got it at worldwithoutparasites.com -- the one called the Harmonic Protector.) I do whatever I can to protect myself from EMFs, including not owning a cell phone or cordless phone and often when I take my walks I am holding a zapper (from the same website).

I have a friend who lives in a beautiful place in Idaho and has been extremely distressed about the chemtrails for a long time. He didn't believe in things like orgonite but got so UPSET about the chemtrails ruining the sky overhead that he decided to try making some. He went all out and bought a big box of Tibetan crystals that the store he went to did not even keep in the storefront because they said they were "too intense." He thought it all sounded like poppycock but took them up on their offer to see them. They brought out the box and the hairs on his head stood up on end. (They had brought them out to show him because he had said, "I want the strongest crystals you've got.")

He went home and made a HUGE orgonite device that was really quite a piece of art that included a copper tube that was 6 feet high. He said that once he made this he could see chemtrails from far off and as soon as they got near his property there was clear blue sky -- and over on the other side of his property the chemtrails began again.

He was warned that "they" (whoever they are) might try to find him to do something to make the orgonite stop working -- but then learned of something he could put under it that would keep it working. (What that was I have forgotten -- I seem to remember some kind of small metal disks of some sort.

Russ1959
19th April 2012, 16:41
Wow, that is great information Avocadess, thank you!
I must admit I have wondered whether these devices could be traced if the cloud bursting becomes effective although Im going to make one anyway!

Russ

G.Deluca
19th April 2012, 17:33
i have nearly all the materials to do a smaller version,but i still need the crystals,no one seems to sell it anymore in this city,i'll have to buy some on the internet i guess or in another city

Russ1959
19th April 2012, 18:00
i have nearly all the materials to do a smaller version,but i still need the crystals,no one seems to sell it anymore in this city,i'll have to buy some on the internet i guess or in another city


E bay has been my main source of crystals and is quite reasonable in price too.
A cheap source of metal shavings can be found in supermarket scouring pads ( for washing up) or even just chop up staples etc.

Russ

evancruz1
19th April 2012, 18:40
I have orgonite on a necklace I wear every day for the past couple of years. (I got it at worldwithoutparasites.com -- the one called the Harmonic Protector.) I do whatever I can to protect myself from EMFs, including not owning a cell phone or cordless phone and often when I take my walks I am holding a zapper (from the same website).

I have a friend who lives in a beautiful place in Idaho and has been extremely distressed about the chemtrails for a long time. He didn't believe in things like orgonite but got so UPSET about the chemtrails ruining the sky overhead that he decided to try making some. He went all out and bought a big box of Tibetan crystals that the store he went to did not even keep in the storefront because they said they were "too intense." He thought it all sounded like poppycock but took them up on their offer to see them. They brought out the box and the hairs on his head stood up on end. (They had brought them out to show him because he had said, "I want the strongest crystals you've got.")

He went home and made a HUGE orgonite device that was really quite a piece of art that included a copper tube that was 6 feet high. He said that once he made this he could see chemtrails from far off and as soon as they got near his property there was clear blue sky -- and over on the other side of his property the chemtrails began again.

He was warned that "they" (whoever they are) might try to find him to do something to make the orgonite stop working -- but then learned of something he could put under it that would keep it working. (What that was I have forgotten -- I seem to remember some kind of small metal disks of some sort.

Thank you Avocadess!

I would be very interested to know how "they" could prevent the orgonite from working. I'm assuming they can detect the use of a Chembuster from far off? Or they simply see on radar the chemtrails break down over certain areas? This is important info as to have our work un-interupted...
It seems to me I may have read something about black helicopters circling houses with chembusters operating. What about these discs placed under the Chembuster? If anyone knows the answers please post...

My wife and I have also been using Orgonite for approx. 8 months now. We bought our pendants from Lilly at Natures-blessings.org. Also we just started using Orgone Zappers with great results... I researched zappers for 2 years before I actually purchased them.
Organiseafrica.com is where we purchased the Zappers from... Also check out Orgonite.info as it explains how orgonite works...

Recently I made a batch of HHG's to gift and give away... I used an oversized crystal, Polyester resin, Hematite, BB's, and some tightly shaved aluminum from an automotive machine shop. But I wasn't sure if the aluminum shavings were too small... They seem to work but we wear Orgonite everyday so it's hard to tell if the additional orgonite makes a difference. I gifted the two cell phone towers within a 1/4 mile from my house and my wife did ask shortly after if I felt more at peace in and around our house. I can say for sure it takes alot more to ruffle our feathers in the presence of Orgonite.
One thing we noticed right away is the ability of orgonite to dull pain, aid in healing. Wilhelm Reich used orgonite to heal physical as well as mental issues with his patients with great success. Hope that helps...

Jonathan

Connecting with Sauce
20th April 2012, 23:21
I built 3 of these...
http://www.warriormatrix.com/about8456.html&sid=1995136d353159cef70b6c62e5574c0c

I am happy with mine, and the other two owners report similar benefits in their locations...

This is interesting:
http://www.warriormatrix.com/post-50023.html&highlight=#50023

I have also made some orgonite with sugar... (very cheap) as the 'resin' (sugar) is cheap as it is part of the agenda to poison people and drop their immune system and cause mineral deficiency..
http://www.warriormatrix.com/post-46497.html&highlight=#46497

The larger sugar jar sits on my desk at work... A kg of Orgonite :) people in the office come and hold it and get tingles... the more stressed they are the more the tingle effect...

I can feel the energy above my chembuster a foot or so above it.

"They" know chembusters when they appear... My house had chemtrails directly over head for about a week... they just disappeared :)

Deega
20th April 2012, 23:55
Thanks Russ1959. still an interesting subject and difficult to accept or deny William Reich work.

A few years back, I came up to this subject, was intrigue by it, did many, was ridicule on it, but still, I bought a Gauss meter to check if this thing was phoney?

One thing is important to know, radiation from a transformer is radiating 360 degree horizontally, vertically. So if one do a cone, square, rectangular, or what shape, this orgone will capture what will come his way. From my measurement, a cone like orgone size 3 inches base, with a 4 inches will approximately capture about >=25%, <=30% of the radiation emitted by the device. If you want more radiation capture, you will have to change the orgone form to capture more degrees of radiation.

From my experience, and I'm not a physic researcher, I can say yes, it does capture radiation from an emitting device (radio, TV, cellphone, computer, etc), but it capture what come his way not the over-all degree field. From what I could measured, orgone doesn't siphoned out radiation emitted from a device!

Hope that it help.

All the best to you.

Deega

bearcow
21st April 2012, 01:37
look at the original devices made by reich, they are effective

the Orgonite products made by don and carol croft have very little to do with reich's designs, and in my opinion does almost nothing. they do not transmute unhealthy energy into life affirming energy at all.

http://www.orgonics.com/

this site sells products based on reich's original designs.

Hervé
21st April 2012, 02:52
[...]

He was warned that "they" (whoever they are) might try to find him to do something to make the orgonite stop working -- but then learned of something he could put under it that would keep it working. (What that was I have forgotten -- I seem to remember some kind of small metal disks of some sort.

Thanks for your input!

For some reasons, orgonite/orgone generators disturb "their" surveillance electromagnetic grid (all these EMF/ELF/radar/microwave tower grid) and can almost instantly pinpoint the location of the disturbance (think HAARP reflectors being poked a hole into).

The same happens to anyone firing up an authentic, genuine free energy device... they get "visited" on very short term (also happens to some people stumbling upon some ways of meditating).

Another useful and comprehensive site on the matter:

http://whale.to/b/orgonite.html

Besides pioneer Don Croft forum:

http://www.ethericwarriors.com/ip/forum.php

MessiahMews
17th May 2012, 02:01
We've had orgone in our house since 2002. We bought our first HHG from someone named Michelle Ridgley, I think.

We bought our first cloudbuster from Andy at ctbusters.com and also some HHGs from him. We bought another CB from Andy about 3 years ago, and left the first one at the last place we lived. We have made some for local friends, so we do know how to build them. I'd just rather buy though and support a vendor.

We too, have pendants from Lilly of Natures Blessings, and also bought orgone from a man named Cbswork who later changed username to Uwantsun/Uwantson. He quit making orgone.

Now we make it ourselves and mostly make the smaller muffin pan/dixie cup ones.

If I'm out of this constant orgone field for too long, I get a flu. Been exposed to it for 10 years now, and I feel kinda naked without the energy around. I usually take a piece or two with me, and the pendants.

UnrealDreams
17th May 2012, 02:31
I'm not sure that "orgonite" is really the best description for orgonite. I am a student of Reich's work and I have been planning on making a few devices myself. None of them would incorporate the resin, because it is the alternating layers of metallic, and non-metallic material that creates the concentration of orgone energy. The orgone energy increases in intensity with each layer it goes through. So, if you have a device which does not incorporate this design, it doesn't actually amplify the desired energy....not that there is not any energy there at all.

Does "orgonite" work? Maybe it does work, especially if you believe it will work. Much in the same way that different crystals and metals naturally have a "vibe" to them and can help you accomplish certain things if you believe they will help you.

Is it based on Reich's original design which actually amplifies the orgone energy? No. A better design would incorporate alternating layers of metallic and non-metallic sources and would have a "box" or similar area to contain this energy in a concentrated form.

UnrealDreams
18th May 2012, 08:21
Check out this Youtube video. This cat built a 'cloudbuster' and took video and....lo and behold there are several seemingly benevolent UFO appearances. There are a few older cloudbuster videos that have a 'Men In Black' black helicopter appearance. Sensi Dennis of warriormatrix has a film of this on youtube. I will link when I find it. Update: Here is the video of the helicopter circling Sensie Dennis' house. It wasn't a black helicopter, but rather blue, and unmarked.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6rUs6fjen14


Reich himself also had a war of sorts with non-benevolent ET's years ago. To me, this signifies a shift. If the black helicopters are replaced with benevolent ET's at the site of Orgone generation....this signifies that the good ET's are winning to me.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d5wq2yhy8Mw

The question is....are we now safe to really let loose on the Orgone Energy experiments? Can we experiment with Orgone energy without being harrassed? Can we find an Orgone solution to the nuclear problem polluting the entire northern hemisphere?

Trail
18th May 2012, 09:01
...and some tightly shaved aluminum from an automotive machine shop.

I have made some HHG's too a few years ago. they are actually outside the house on the balcony inside the pots of some bigger plants as my girlfriend sadly couldn't cope with their energy in the house too well. :S

From what i've read i don't think aluminum is a good metal to use. I believe i remember that the best metals to use inside the resin are attracted by a magnet.

Something to do with the charge those metals hold wich causes the energy attracted by the resin to change to a positive energy once it hits those metals.

~Trail

UnrealDreams
18th May 2012, 10:15
i have nearly all the materials to do a smaller version,but i still need the crystals,no one seems to sell it anymore in this city,i'll have to buy some on the internet i guess or in another city

Hi buddy, here is a link to an ebay search for DT quartz.
http://www.ebay.com.au/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=p3907.m570.l1313&_nkw=dt+quartz+crystals&_sacat=See-All-Categories

What is most commonly used is DT(double terminated) quartz crystals. Single terminated crystals should work just as well. The way DT crystals work is they transmit energy in both directions. So, you should cleanse them over running water for 1 minute. Then you need to dedicate them. You will want to enter a meditative state if possible(not absolutely necessary), and holding the crystal in your hand let it be known what your intent is for the crystal(to bust up chemtrails). After seeing that video with UFO appearance, I would suggest also asking any benevolent ET's to also assist in cleansing the chemtrails when you dedicate your crystal.

Full instructions are here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dqw7z2JJ-w4

Here is a great site for info on these, too: http://www.warriormatrix.com/forum-3.html&sid=58da5c0d9b17c8f670d4fa7cce69f755

Good luck.

G.Deluca
18th May 2012, 13:02
i have nearly all the materials to do a smaller version,but i still need the crystals,no one seems to sell it anymore in this city,i'll have to buy some on the internet i guess or in another city

Hi buddy, here is a link to an ebay search for DT quartz.
http://www.ebay.com.au/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=p3907.m570.l1313&_nkw=dt+quartz+crystals&_sacat=See-All-Categories

What is most commonly used is DT(double terminated) quartz crystals. Single terminated crystals should work just as well. The way DT crystals work is they transmit energy in both directions. So, you should cleanse them over running water for 1 minute. Then you need to dedicate them. You will want to enter a meditative state if possible(not absolutely necessary), and holding the crystal in your hand let it be known what your intent is for the crystal(to bust up chemtrails). After seeing that video with UFO appearance, I would suggest also asking any benevolent ET's to also assist in cleansing the chemtrails when you dedicate your crystal.

Full instructions are here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dqw7z2JJ-w4

Here is a great site for info on these, too: http://www.warriormatrix.com/forum-3.html&sid=58da5c0d9b17c8f670d4fa7cce69f755

Good luck.

thank you very much for the informations,i just got my crystals from the UK ,i'm looking forward to build some hhg this week end ! i just need to find some time! :)

Connecting with Sauce
18th May 2012, 13:34
There is a few threads on the net on the aura photos with different orgonites...
http://www.whale.to/c/klicken_sie_hier.html another one is on warrier matrix

I can say the weather definitely changed in the area around Chelmsford when the copper chembuster (http://www.warriormatrix.com/about8456.html&sid=1995136d353159cef70b6c62e5574c0c)was installed... it was like switching on a SWITCH :)

I know copper is one of the most economic best metals for positive energy from this thread (http://projectavalon.net/forum/showthread.php?t=13363) I posted a few years ago..

I know orgonite works... there are sylphs (http://educate-yourself.org/cn/sylphandchemtrailindex.shtml)in the sky above chelmsford if there is heavy spraying... At the V festival last year there were loads in the sky!

bearcow
19th May 2012, 15:44
The question is....are we now safe to really let loose on the Orgone Energy experiments? Can we experiment with Orgone energy without being harrassed? Can we find an Orgone solution to the nuclear problem polluting the entire northern hemisphere?

i have many devices from companies who continued Reich's legitimate work. I have never been harassed by anyone.


i'm not sure that "orgonite" is really the best description for orgonite. I am a student of Reich's work and I have been planning on making a few devices myself. None of them would incorporate the resin, because it is the alternating layers of metallic, and non-metallic material that creates the concentration of orgone energy. The orgone energy increases in intensity with each layer it goes through. So, if you have a device which does not incorporate this design, it doesn't actually amplify the desired energy.

100% correct, excellent post

Maia Gabrial
19th May 2012, 16:05
I've made quite a few of my own orgonites. The crystals inside them are specifically programmed for protection. I found out that they can be used to protect from mind control, too.
I'd recommend that everyone make their own, so that their own intentions are put into them. And they don't have to be fancy or fashionable. Plants love them. Animals are drawn to them....
What's not to like about them? :becky:

Connecting with Sauce
19th May 2012, 19:28
Plants love them.

Our chilli plants have chilis on them already in May... One or two are red, the plants are surrounded by orgonite pieces

Swan
29th May 2012, 09:54
Hi CWSauce,

Thanks for your link for making orgonite with sugar! Aluminium and polyester just does not feel right to me.

My first sugar and copper pieces have a soft, warm feel to them. Now I´m off to experiment with pine resin.

Wiremu2011
29th May 2012, 10:22
As an experiment and something I show friends when I'm visited, is a pot plant sitting right next to the wireless telephone, mini hi fi and HHG (orgone generator)The point being that the plant continues to thrive in this electro smog environment UNTIL I remove the orgone, which it then starts to wilt within a day each and every single time. The plants been in the same place for 14 months with no Ill effect, of course unless I remove the orgone.

eileenrose
29th May 2012, 10:35
Looking into this technology as well after the ETs on John Kettler site said to use Orgone and Tibetan Black quartz for my smart meter issue.

Of course, I am doing my research as well...including reading all the links on this thread (thanks for the thread!)....and one link says not to use them with smart meters.

However, as I already figured out (with my intuition) to not place them within 15 feet of any smart meter, I assume the ETs meant put one in my yard....far away from the actual meters. ...just saying....smart meters are everywhere and the site that said not to use them with smart meters didn't say how far from smart meters (since they are everywhere)....so I assume they are still using them....just not next to their smart meters (or infra-red saunas).


Anyway,....hope I got it right.

Wiremu2011
29th May 2012, 10:37
A good site with great product in Australia is orgoneeffects.com.au The owner (Gerard Bini) is a genius IMO and he can even remote view your property via google and advise you it's "condition". I've since purchased his home geocleanse which looks like a bar of soap plugged into a power socket. My home and entire property feels very centered and "cleared".
My home already had other orgone product about the place, but it just feels safe and peaceful. Coincidence or what??? I do t know for sure, but that's the sense that others who visit my home think as well, so there you go.. My 2 cents worth :)

Olam
30th May 2012, 03:16
I built alot of orgone devices last year. One way I tested them ,and I encourage everyone who is building to do so, is to put a glass of water in the freezer on top shelf and a device right below it.
The glass will probably break as the ice expands and freezes, but you will see the energy released from the device frozen in the water.
It looks alot like those subatomic particles that they smash in that huge collider.
Some devices are stronger and so you see more current flow.
Also, if you are going to use those, I say building them yourself is much more powerful.
You develop an instinct for what you like and your intention is in the crystals.
For me, building those was always a form of meditation.

Fred259
30th May 2012, 12:09
I have orgonite on a necklace I wear every day for the past couple of years. (I got it at worldwithoutparasites.com -- the one called the Harmonic Protector.) I do whatever I can to protect myself from EMFs, including not owning a cell phone or cordless phone and often when I take my walks I am holding a zapper (from the same website).

I have a friend who lives in a beautiful place in Idaho and has been extremely distressed about the chemtrails for a long time. He didn't believe in things like orgonite but got so UPSET about the chemtrails ruining the sky overhead that he decided to try making some. He went all out and bought a big box of Tibetan crystals that the store he went to did not even keep in the storefront because they said they were "too intense." He thought it all sounded like poppycock but took them up on their offer to see them. They brought out the box and the hairs on his head stood up on end. (They had brought them out to show him because he had said, "I want the strongest crystals you've got.")

He went home and made a HUGE orgonite device that was really quite a piece of art that included a copper tube that was 6 feet high. He said that once he made this he could see chemtrails from far off and as soon as they got near his property there was clear blue sky -- and over on the other side of his property the chemtrails began again.

He was warned that "they" (whoever they are) might try to find him to do something to make the orgonite stop working -- but then learned of something he could put under it that would keep it working. (What that was I have forgotten -- I seem to remember some kind of small metal disks of some sort.

I agree. What is happening is that the energy from the crystals is changing the stability condition within atmosphere around and above your friend’s home in Idaho from the “Saturated Adiabatic Lapse Rate” towards the “Dry Adiabatic Lapse Rate”.

Because the condition of the atmosphere has now been modified by the crystals towards the dry adiabatic lapse rate moisture that was previously held in a non gaseous state ie cloud (that you think is manmade chemtrail) has now evaporated and exists in a gaseous state such as a vapour.

As the lady reports in her insightful post downstream from her friend’s home and away from the generator the power and energy from the crystals has now dissipated.

So what happens?

The stability in the atmosphere immediately downwind from her friends home has now changed again from the Dry Adiabatic Lapse Rate towards the Saturated Adiabatic Lapse Rate and thus moisture that was held in a “gaseous state” (like a vapour) above here friends home now condenses out and the cloud appears again.

This lady is writing honestly and from her heart and reporting good clear scientific facts.

The problem however is that evil disgusting people are around who are very successful in subverting the truth. They do this because they want to control you and turn you into complete blithering idiots and make you look foolish.

You are neither.

Go back and read what this lady has typed. Essentially she is saying her friend in Idaho “turned off the chemtrail”

Think about it. How can that even be remotely possible?

It gets even better because she later reports that after the aircraft had flown over her friends house…guess what..? It started again…more chemtrailing.

Please stop. Please think. How can this be? The answer is it can’t happen.

The fact it can’t happen surely must mean that something else exists that you don’t know about or understand. To make matters worse they don’t want you to have access to this knowledge and understanding. Instead they fill you with this total BS about Chemtrails.

Don’t fall for it folks. I agree with everything the lady writes. She is telling the truth and writing from her heart. The power and energy of the crystals is the bit they don’t want you to know about?

Everything else is perfectly normal and nature as its best.

The question was Does Orgonite work myth or fact? The answer is a qualified Yes however it’s Crystal that’s working.

seehas
30th May 2012, 20:49
thank your projectavalon for this thread, you all helped me allot !

more than words can say

jack
11th June 2013, 01:59
Hey guys I just thought I would share with you my collection of orgonite.

It makes me smile everytime I look at it so hopefully it does the same for you.

http://i1313.photobucket.com/albums/t560/OrgoniteInfo/Orgonite%20For%20Project%20Avalon/BeFunky_BeFunky_Orgonite0010Ajpg_zpsca7481f9.jpg

http://i1313.photobucket.com/albums/t560/OrgoniteInfo/Orgonite%20For%20Project%20Avalon/BeFunky_BeFunky_Orgonite0011Bjpg_zps8cbe9166.jpg

http://i1313.photobucket.com/albums/t560/OrgoniteInfo/Orgonite%20For%20Project%20Avalon/BeFunky_BeFunky_Orgonite0012bjpg_zps0d7bda49.jpg

http://i1313.photobucket.com/albums/t560/OrgoniteInfo/Orgonite%20For%20Project%20Avalon/BeFunky_BeFunky_Orgonite0013Ajpg_zpsd4c79857.jpg

http://i1313.photobucket.com/albums/t560/OrgoniteInfo/Orgonite%20For%20Project%20Avalon/BeFunky_BeFunky_Orgonite0014Bjpg_zps61a3b6df.jpg

http://i1313.photobucket.com/albums/t560/OrgoniteInfo/Orgonite%20For%20Project%20Avalon/BeFunky_BeFunky_Orgonite001Bjpg_zpsdacf29ad.jpg

http://i1313.photobucket.com/albums/t560/OrgoniteInfo/Orgonite%20For%20Project%20Avalon/BeFunky_BeFunky_Orgonite002Ajpg_zpsf4fffd24.jpg

http://i1313.photobucket.com/albums/t560/OrgoniteInfo/Orgonite%20For%20Project%20Avalon/BeFunky_BeFunky_Orgonite003Ajpg_zps946c9b98.jpg

http://i1313.photobucket.com/albums/t560/OrgoniteInfo/Orgonite%20For%20Project%20Avalon/BeFunky_BeFunky_Orgonite004Ajpg_zpscba46d7d.jpg

Feel free to post your own!

jack
11th June 2013, 02:01
Heres some more :)

http://i1313.photobucket.com/albums/t560/OrgoniteInfo/Orgonite%20For%20Project%20Avalon/BeFunky_BeFunky_Orgonite005Ajpg_zps79ae29d3.jpg

http://i1313.photobucket.com/albums/t560/OrgoniteInfo/Orgonite%20For%20Project%20Avalon/BeFunky_BeFunky_Orgonite006Bjpg_zpsaa9362d7.jpg

http://i1313.photobucket.com/albums/t560/OrgoniteInfo/Orgonite%20For%20Project%20Avalon/BeFunky_BeFunky_Orgonite007Ajpg_zps96d43440.jpg


http://i1313.photobucket.com/albums/t560/OrgoniteInfo/Orgonite%20For%20Project%20Avalon/BeFunky_BeFunky_Orgonite008Bjpg_zps9a8f2784.jpg

http://i1313.photobucket.com/albums/t560/OrgoniteInfo/Orgonite%20For%20Project%20Avalon/BeFunky_BeFunky_Orgonite009Bjpg_zps6c12a091.jpg

turiya
11th June 2013, 04:28
I like this one...

http://curezone.com/upload/_T_Forums/turiya_file/ORGANITE_BUDDHA.png

lookbeyond
11th June 2013, 05:43
Thats a very useful skill Jack-i will hav a few more crystals wi mine thx

jack
11th June 2013, 12:00
I like this one...

http://curezone.com/upload/_T_Forums/turiya_file/ORGANITE_BUDDHA.png

I will make one with that picture in the next batch :)

InCiDeR
11th June 2013, 12:21
For those that are not familiar with the subject:


What Is Orgonite? (http://www.orgonite.info/what-is-orgonite.html)

A Brief History of Orgone Research

In the 1930's and 1940's, Dr. Wilhelm Reich was able to detect and measure the existence of etheric energy (life energy, chi, etc.), which he called orgone, using a modified geiger counter.

Dr. Reich determined that stacking alternating layers of fiberglass (an organic substance) and steel wool (an inorganic substance) would actually attract and collect orgone/etheric energy of both the life-beneficial positive form (which Reich called "OR" or "POR") and harmful negative etheric energy ("deadly orgone" or "DOR").

He constructed large boxes called orgone accumulators or "oracs" using this simple layering principle and was able to successfully heal his patients of various ailments, including various forms of cancer, by having them sit inside the box for periods of time.

In 1986, scientists at the University of Marburg, Germany published the results of a blind study1 which showed that 30-minute orgone accumulator treatments caused consistent, positive psycho-physiological effects not seen with the all-fiberglass box used for a control, stating "the results received in our investigation furnish evidence for the assumption that the physical properties of the orgone accumulator and its psychophysiological efficacy on human organisms, postulated by Reich and his associates, factually exist."

Reich's work was continued in earnest in the 1960's by more open-minded Russian scientists such as Dr. Nikolai Kozyrev (1908-1983), who also scientifically proved that such unseen energies indeed exist all around us, and who's Reich-inspired work led to the unfortunate development of practical Soviet military defense applications which utilized principles of so-called "torsion fields" (e.g., etheric energy). Kozyrev's work, which indeed confirms both Reich's research and our empirical experiences with orgonite, was classified until the fall of the Soviet Union in 1991.

Following in their footsteps, thousands of Ph.D.-level researchers from both sides of the Iron Curtain spanning multiple generations have continued Kozyrev and Reich's pioneering work, slowly forcing mainstream Western science to finally, "officially recognize" the concept of a universal, unseen energy medium they call "dark matter," "vacuum flux" or "zero-point energy," depending on who you ask. It is commonly understood among orgonite enthusiasts that these are all essentially describing the same thing, which Reich called "orgone". (...)

---

Orgone (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orgone)

Orgone energy was a hypothetical universal life force originally proposed in the 1930s by Wilhelm Reich. In its final conception, developed by Reich's student Charles Kelly after Reich's death, Orgone was conceived as the anti-entropic principle of the universe, a creative substratum in all of nature comparable to Mesmer's animal magnetism, the Odic force of Carl Reichenbach and Henri Bergson's élan vital.

Orgone was seen as a massless, omnipresent substance, similar to luminiferous aether, but more closely associated with living energy than inert matter. It could coalesce to create organization on all scales, from the smallest microscopic units—called bions in orgone theory—to macroscopic structures like organisms, clouds, or even galaxies (...)

Snookie
11th June 2013, 17:20
Are there any other uses for Orgonite besides curing cancer? What is it primarily used for?

I just read this...

"Within a year of this development, Don began publishing reports of his and his wife's experiences in, among other things, the tactical deployment of small pieces of orgonite near any and all sources of DOR, or life-negative energy, such as cellphone towers, nuclear power plants, underground bases and natural Earth energy gridlines and vorticies. Don included in his reports the specific life-positive, cleansing, healing, confirming effects they would notice following such "gifting" activities, causing Don to strongly encourage his readers to replicate his efforts in their own communities."

Can anyone who has used it give examples as to how they personally benefited by using it?

Carmody
11th June 2013, 19:10
The best way to make them is as self resonant electrets.

Danger Will Robinson.

~100x more potent.

Understand that it will not be a game to 'play', if you go down that road. As stated in earlier threads when revealing that build potential. Keep a hammer around, one that has a big wooden and insulated handle. The thing may require destruction.

The usual way to short an electret is to keep wrapped in foil.


Note the presence of the people responsible for the fundamentals in science, Maxwell, Heaviside, etc. Aetherists.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electret

An electret is a self aligned structure that is self charged and has it's own field..this..before it is inserted into a field to integrate with.

If you start building electret based pyramidal orgone structures, you are playing with fire.

TargeT
11th June 2013, 19:32
but electrets discharge over time?

Carmody
11th June 2013, 19:38
but electrets discharge over time?

Properly done, over a couple hundred years. Properly applied, there is a possibility that they might become more potent, over time.

This was the pyramid secret. Recall it is now considered that they were of a cement like nature.

Look at the more recent posts in the lithium thread, regarding cement and conductors. (cement as an electrical conductor)

Put that in the same box (and shake it up) with making electrets and you might have your eyes widen a bit.

This comes straight down to quantum and mass level polarization. Atomic Van Der Waals forces (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Van_der_Waals_force)vs covalent forces (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Covalent_bond).

Think of it this way:

http://images.amazon.com/images/G/01/toys/detail-page/c26-B00383PO48-2-l.jpg

In the Hot wheels toy, the car comes around and is set to move in a specific way, that is controlled by the track, yet..when it hits those spinning wheels, it is blasted out at terrific speed. On and in a very controlled path. Come in slow, goes out in the form of being blasted out a firehose.

That is essentially a comparison to an electret combined with an Orgone Pyramid. Besides the field being much more massive and integrated.

seehas
11th June 2013, 19:44
or as they are called "hollyhandgranade" funny name isnt it :hippie:

also got one here

http://www1.picturepush.com/photo/a/13297454/img/13297454.jpg

jack
12th June 2013, 00:24
I can post the experiences of me , my family and close friends.

I started making orgonite about 6 months ago. I had read through a lot of Wilhelm Reich's original works (which sadly cost a pretty penny) and also every other bit of information I could get my hands on. As I went about buying the materials and making the orgone I started to see with my own eyes the powerful effect that it has.

For me i'll list a number of what I consider to be the most powerful effects -

* Complete end of chronic night terrors. - Much more deep and peaceful sleep refreshing sleep. (I needed it :) )
* Massive increase to my energy levels - I had pretty bad chronic fatigue for the past number of years and now its the complete opposite.
* Creativity! Boy, did it do wonders from my creativity. The fact that it gives me so much energy may be the reason for this. I just love to get things done these days and seem to have endless energy reserves for achieving this.
* Better Relationships. It seems that whenever orgonite is around there is a calm in the air. I noticed the rapport between me and anyone I encountered to become much deeper and more meaningful. I also noticed that I was better able to face fears that normally used to dominate my life.

I really could go on. I dont have enough good things to say about this stuff. If you want to hear more of my experiences just ask.

My friends and families experiences -

Of coursae I wanted to show this off to my family so first I showed it to my dad the undying skeptic. He actually took the whole idea pretty well, im not sure was it to amuse me or was it genuine but he was willing to hold one of the cones in his hand where he was suffering from arm pain for some time. After about 2 minutes he hopped up off the chair and shouted "beeejesus! the bloody things worked!!" haha he was like a child. So i thought, thats one hand lets see if it does the same for the other one.. so I gave him another cone which he held in the other hand. In short time he was up shouting and making a fuss that the pain had gone in his other hand as well.

Since then he's been carrying pieces around and has some in the house and cant stop telling people about them.

I gotta go so i'll continue this another time. Its fun telling about it because its a fantastic thing to be a part of and to experience :)

enfoldedblue
12th June 2013, 05:33
Ahh I will share my sad orgonite story :( . I was discussing emfs and possible solutions in another thread and mentioned that I was going to try to make some orgonite. Since I already had crystals and resin all I needed was some metal shavings. I went to a key cutter and got some nice fine brass shavings, then some various sized curly metal shavings from a metalwork place. When I got home and got everything ready I discovered that the resin (which I had left over from an art project several years ago) had solidified even though I hadn't added the hardener. So the next day I went to the hardware store to buy some more resin. The guy from the paint section showed me the resin and explained that I just needed to add some hardener. I told him that I still had the old hardener and asked if I could use that, or if I needed to buy one to go with this new resin. He assured me any hardener would be fine.

So I began the process by creating 6 muffin tin shapes and a martini glass. By the time I got to the martini glass I was really having fun. I added some gold leaf and some raw rubies, as well as a new purpose bought quart crystal. I was excited and couldn't wait to see the finished result. 24 hours the can said, for the resin to dry...seemed like a ling time to wait.

Every few hours I checked to see how they were progressing...hmmmm no change....ok patience it said 24 hours. Well 24 hours goes by and still a gooey concoction. Ok well it said sometimes if humidity is high it can take 48 hours. So I continued to wait. 72 hours later something is wrong! So I began to research. Eventually I discovered that there are two type of resin: polyester and epoxy and they both require very different hardeners. It turns out I mixed epoxy hardener with polyester resin.

I returned to the hardware store and tell them what happened. In the end I got a new tin of resin, and I bought the right kind of hardener....but now I have this mini toxic mess to contend with.

I tried save the ones in the muffin tin, by adding the right hardener, as I could mix it in... now after nearly a week is almost hard, but I am not sure if it will ever fully cure :( . The carefully layered martini glass is a definite write off, and when I get up the courage I will try to fish out the crystal and the rubies...I am kinda dreading this!

So this is my sad tale of organite. Hopefully, now that I have the right materials, I will be able to muster up the courage to begin the process again...and this time achieve better results. But I am not a fan of plastic, and try to avoid contributing to its excess on the planet...so I must say after this experience I am really in two minds about the whole thing.

At least this story made my dad burst out laughing when he was feeling a bit down...so that's a positive :)

jbins
12th June 2013, 06:08
enfoldedblue, i had a very similar experience with some of my first orgone gens. It took months for my sticky muffin pan mess to eventually harden enough to pry them out with a knife, but i did end up getting all of them out(it was a struggle though i strongly considered burying the entire pan somewhere inconspicuous) and planting them all, so i guess all's well that ends well. Thanks for sharing, i got a chuckle out of it too.

jack
12th June 2013, 22:47
Some more eye-candy :)

http://i1313.photobucket.com/albums/t560/OrgoniteInfo/Orgonite%20Pyramids/BeFunky_IMG122jpg_zps55375acd.jpg

Olam
13th June 2013, 00:58
Hi there, yes orgonite devices are great stuff.
Nice samples we have here!
These are a few of the latest batch, I also did some garden pucks that have bionised sand and crushed crystals.
Those help gardens have more yield and general growth.
Cheers

http://i1340.photobucket.com/albums/o738/olam1/DSC02590_zps32784019.jpg (http://s1340.photobucket.com/user/olam1/media/DSC02590_zps32784019.jpg.html)
http://i1340.photobucket.com/albums/o738/olam1/DSC02574_zpsf9226678.jpg (http://s1340.photobucket.com/user/olam1/media/DSC02574_zpsf9226678.jpg.html)
http://i1340.photobucket.com/albums/o738/olam1/DSC02566_zps4521bdbf.jpg (http://s1340.photobucket.com/user/olam1/media/DSC02566_zps4521bdbf.jpg.html)
http://i1340.photobucket.com/albums/o738/olam1/DSC02565_zpsf2fd012c.jpg (http://s1340.photobucket.com/user/olam1/media/DSC02565_zpsf2fd012c.jpg.html)
http://i1340.photobucket.com/albums/o738/olam1/DSC02549_zps663da243.jpg (http://s1340.photobucket.com/user/olam1/media/DSC02549_zps663da243.jpg.html)

jack
13th June 2013, 01:25
Absolutely beautiful pieces Olam .. Its really amazing how beautiful this stuff is and im surprised I rarely see any works of art with it outside of orgonite.

bearcow
13th June 2013, 02:33
here is a quote from a former member on the validity of orgonite which pretty much sums it up


i'm not sure that "orgonite" is really the best description for orgonite. I am a student of Reich's work and I have been planning on making a few devices myself. None of them would incorporate the resin, because it is the alternating layers of metallic, and non-metallic material that creates the concentration of orgone energy. The orgone energy increases in intensity with each layer it goes through. So, if you have a device which does not incorporate this design, it doesn't actually amplify the desired energy.




the resin these things are made of actually deters the proper conditions necessary to build up a significant charge of orgone, prana, yang chi, or whatever other historically accurate name you wish to call it.

The limestone the pyramids were made of, or the limestone Edward Leedskalnin used to build his coral castle, is a excellent facilitator to build up a strong charge.

It saddens me to see so many people spending their time and money on these energetic placebos.

perhaps these threads should be merged

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?43953-Does-Orgonite-really-work-Myth-or-Fact&p=491515#post491515

jack
13th June 2013, 02:47
here is a quote from a former member on the validity of orgonite which pretty much sums it up


i'm not sure that "orgonite" is really the best description for orgonite. I am a student of Reich's work and I have been planning on making a few devices myself. None of them would incorporate the resin, because it is the alternating layers of metallic, and non-metallic material that creates the concentration of orgone energy. The orgone energy increases in intensity with each layer it goes through. So, if you have a device which does not incorporate this design, it doesn't actually amplify the desired energy.




the resin these things are made of actually deters the proper conditions necessary to build up a significant charge of orgone, prana, yang chi, or whatever other historically accurate name you wish to call it.

The limestone the pyramids were made of, or the limestone Edward Leedskalnin used to build his coral castle, is a excellent facilitator to build up a strong charge.

It saddens me to see so many people spending their time and money on these energetic placebos.

perhaps these threads should be merged

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?43953-Does-Orgonite-really-work-Myth-or-Fact&p=491515#post491515

Hello bearcow,

I would rather not have the threads merged since the heading on that thread is already very biased towards the matter - Its like saying "Round Earth, Myth of Fact". Ive done many experiments and spend a great deal of time researching Reich's original work and also putting more current variations to the test.

My results have been very significant so for that reason I prefer this thread stand alone as a mark of respect towards the validity of a lot of current research which has proven beyond any reasonable doubt that orgonite devices accumulate a great storehouse of Positive Orgone (If used in the right environment) which can itself be used to treat many different diseases as well as be used for promoting crop and vegetable growth.

The ramifications of orgone energy are immense. We are currently learning how to harness it and then how to utilize it in ways that can have amazingly profound effects on people.

To put it in the theory bin would contradict the results of tens of thousands of people who have put the time, effort and money into doing thorough scientific research.

Hervé
13th June 2013, 03:23
... it is the alternating layers of metallic, and non-metallic material that creates the concentration of orgone energy. The orgone energy increases in intensity with each layer it goes through. So, if you have a device which does not incorporate this design, it doesn't actually amplify the desired energy.
[...]

Strange logic... since there is no difference, concept-wise, between metal shavings isolated in an organic matrix which happens to polymerize in the same crystallographic shape as does quartz.

So, instead of being in layers, it is a 360 degree spherical, 3 D metal particles separated by an insulator... capacitor/condenser kind of stuff.

Then, these orgonite pieces are termed "generators" rather than accumulators, thanks to the added crystals and vortex twisted copper antennas...

bearcow
13th June 2013, 03:26
Here is a article from James DeMeo, who is one of the leading modern researchers of Orgone alive today. He is a former research associate with the American College of Orgonomy, the most highly regarded and technically astute organization out there regarding Orgone therapy. I have talked to quite a few clinical trained orgone practitioners over the years and they all feel "orgonite" is bunk.


Growing Nonsense About Wilhelm Reich and Orgone Energy on Global Internet.


The current craze about "orgonite", "orgonium", "orgone generators", "orgone zappers", "chembusters" and similar distortions has done a tremendous damage to the research legacy of the late Dr. Wilhelm Reich, who discovered a new cosmic force in nature and called it the orgone energy. The abuse of fact in this crazed and very public distorion of Reich is comparable to someone who would abuse nutritional or herbal remedies, by claiming if you mixed those substances up with purple and pink glitter, and stuck a yin-yang or hex-symbol or mandala on your forehead when ingesting them, they would then "align the cosmic forces to bring you money, wealth, happiness, sex, power, love!", etc. Nutritional supplements and herbal remedies, when carefully used according to the scientific and empirical evidence worked out by generations of physicians and healers, can work a very powerful influence on human physiology, to cure many diseases or keep you well and strong. Reich's original orgone accumulator, in this comparative example, is an equally if not more powerful therapeutic agent for improving the immune system, and reducing symptoms of a variety of diseases, including cancer. It is, all by itself, a very serious scientific and medical breakthrough discovery and powerful therapeutic tool, and there's nothing mystical about it.
By contrast, the "orgonite" and "generator" gadgets are feeble imitators. Maybe if one has absolutely zero knowledge or prior experience on the subject, the very weak orgone radiation from the metallic components of an orgonite-generator gadget might introduce someone to the subjective aspects of the radiation, and give them some limited subjective sensations or even unusual biological reactions. But the whole context of Reich's discovery then gets mystified and distorted way beyond rationality. For example, one can feel the life-energy radiation even more strongly as it radiates off a plain old plastic bag filled with steel wool pads, as found in any hardware store. Allow such a bag of steel wool to gently rest on your open palms and the radiant field is nearly always present and sensible. The orgone life-energy is everywhere, and interacts with all kinds of materials, but only Reich's original orgone accumulator or orgone blanket with their layered construction makes optimal use of this discovery.
The undocumented nonsense spread by the "orgone lump" junk promoters drags Reich's findings into a mystical swamp. Worst of all are the "chembuster" people, claiming to "end chemtrails" (jet contrails, composed of humidity and some air pollution) using Reich's words and terms in abusive and inaccurate ways. The orgonite-generator-chemtrail gadgeteers make fantastic claims, complete with references to mystical "shadow worlds" and "dark forces", speaking about "shape shifting reptillians" who are "repulsed by chembusters" or by "Holy Hand Grenade" pyramids made from "orgonite". Or they claim that serious health problems from exposure to cell phone and tower radiation, or "smart meters" is going to be "neutralized" by putting some orgonite lumps in your back yard. This is madhouse folly creating an overall public denigration and ridicule of Reich's work among more serious-minded people, maligning his important and objectively demonstrated findings. If you are serious, please consult Reich's original writings on the subject of the orgone energy and accumulator.

- James DeMeo, PhD,
author of The Orgone Accumulator Handbook and
various experimental works on the subject.


How the distortions of "orgonite", "orgonium", "orgone generators", "orgone zappers", "orgone pyramids", "holy hand grenades", "chembusters", and other concoctions from the internet madhouse work to destroy Wilhelm Reich's research legacy, and reveal a profound hatred for the man and his works.

Over the last decade there has been a slow and steady growth of misinformation and distortion about Wilhelm Reich's work, found on the websites of people promoting things such as the Montauk Project or "Trance Channeling" the dead Reich from the grave, to milder mixtures of his ideas with mystical religious ideas. Perhaps the most bizarre and widespread distortions are found in the promotional materials for people selling products such as "chembusters", "holy hand grenades", "orgonite", "orgone generators", "orgone converters", "orgone zappers", "orgone pyramids" and a host of similar things. Notably, they all claim (without evidence) to have made great "advancements", going "beyond Reich", in a manner which makes a mockery of Reich's original solid and authentic natural-scientific findings.

There are "orgone crystal power accumulators" (bearing no resemblance whatsoever to Reich's original orgone accumulator), "orgone pendants" and "pendant-beamers" (again, no connections to Reich), "orgone manifestors", "orgone chalice transmuters", "tachyon orgone Reiki massage throw blankets", "biophoton orgone resonators", "therapeutic orgone wealth prosperity and money pillows", "orgone generators [for] love and sex" or for "weight loss" or "...career, business and prosperity", and "radionics rife orgone tesla HHG zappers", and even "orgone-powered ouija spirit boards" all sold with Reich's name and terms stuck to them like so much glitter sprinkled on glue. "Money! Wealth! Power! Sex!" some of them shamelessly proclaim. Virtually nothing in their materials or construction resembles Wilhelm Reich's original or authentic descriptions of orgone energy-accumulating structures, even though they boldly lie about it.

Whatever claims these people make to scientific evidence must rely upon research conducted by Reich or the professional scientists who have undertaken controlled experiments with the "plain" orgone accumulator in laboratories, and for which positive results have been obtained, including in universities under double-blind conditions -- see the on-line Bibliography on Orgonomy. Or, in a few cases where honest people have been duped, they simply do not know how Reich's discovery anticipates everything will carry an innate charge of orgone energy, with a weak radiant field. However, you can get a stronger charge and radiant field from any ordinary plastic bag of steel wool from the hardware store -- and the charge of the original and properly-constructed Reich orgone blankets and accumulators is greater still. For those who stumble upon Reich's discoveries by way of "orgonite" claims, it may really seem like authentic hot-shot thing, but it is a mere shadow of the original, and often a shadow fabricated by the gadgeteers' hand-puppets. People embracing the orgonite craze will remain trapped in ignorance until such time as stumbling over Reich's original publications and break free from the cult of misinformation.

In short, the internet "orgone gadget" sellers they have no defendable scientific evidence for any of their "additions" to the "old fashioned Reich", whom they claim to have advanced "far beyond". Their gadgets may seem more colorful and artistic than the plain old-fashioned orgone blanket, but in terms of function, they are lagging a light-year behind.

But it gets worse.

Upon digging deeper, on the "orgonite" websites and e-groups one often allusions to demons in other dimensions, to large government conspiracies such as "chemtrails", and from there to "shape-shifting reptilian space aliens" who have "substituted themselves into military and key government and UN positions", "taking over the bodies of aircraft pilots and ground crews, and well-known politicians", with the goal to poison their own countrymen and families with toxic chemicals secretly sprayed from the air. They make other references to "ascended masters" and such, and many are factually refugees from religious cults. The devices are promoted for "self defense" against the same demons and space-aliens. The "HHG" term means, for example, "Holy Hand Grenade", and supposedly acts like a regular hand-grenade bomb in some nether-worldly dimension inhabited by demons -- putting one of these on your desk is said to drive away the demons." Some advocates of this madness are refugees from the old mystic Saint Germain "I AM" cult, out of Mt. Shasta, while others more generally espouse "magik" terms which even a dedicated alchemist would be embarrassed to associate with. Reich's name, and his term "orgone", "cloudbuster" and similar terms as developed with specific meanings and used in authentic natural-scientific research are included in their on-line discussions and products they sell, sometimes quite openly to "Obtain Money! Power! Sex! and Magik!", as if there were some direct and honest relationship to Reich, which there most certainly is not.

Taken together, the individuals promoting these distortions drag Reich's good name and work down into a dirty mystical swamp, and little recognizable remains of his authentic research findings, on orgone energy or otherwise. For those struggling to get a clear picture of Reich's findings, these efforts have the result of dramatically muddying of the waters. It is a toss-up to know which is more damaging to Reich's name and work -- the outrageous falsifiers of the CSICOP "professional skeptic" variety, who engage in deliberate distortions as a means to ridicule the man and his work (see for example my article here: http://www.orgonelab.org/gardner.htm), or the "madhouse" internet distorters, whose embrace of Reich provides an equally hideous misportrayal.

At some point in the future, I may write up a more complete disclosure, providing names and websites of the worst offenders, but a simple internet or eBay search on the terms "Wilhelm Reich" or "orgone" will turn up quite a few of them, usually at the "top listings" and also on quite a few of the internet "adwords" advertisements hawking their stuff. A Google search of "orgone" turns up a half-million webpages, with perhaps only 1 out of 100 providing authentic information. Ebay in particular is littered with products abusing the term "orgone", and which have no relationship whatsoever to Reich's discoveries. In a recent survey I made at the time of this writing, eBay was selling 236 items with "orgone" in the title (or 375 in the title and descriptions) -- out of this number a total of Three (3), or around 1%, used the word with accuracy, roughly paralleling the situation on the larger internet search engines.

As a help, the OBRL website includes a special Resource Guide which provides the names and weblinks of most authentic Reich/Orgonomy institutes and organizations, and the very few manufacturers of authentic orgone energy accumulators. Certainly there may be some others we have missed who are not included, but it is a reasonably comprehensive and useful guide for the beginner to consult: http://www.orgonelab.org/resources.htm

James DeMeo, Ph.D.
Director, OBRL
April 2007 (revised August 2010)



These are the opinions of the leading orgone researchers in the world, not just mine

I am only interested in seeing the truth be told, so if you have evidence to back up faith in orgonite, i would like to see it.

bearcow
13th June 2013, 03:30
So, instead of being in layers, it is a 360 degree spherical, 3 D metal particles separated by an insulator... capacitor/condenser kind of stuff.


ok, so how does the charge get inside the capacitor if the insulator is on the outside

this is like trying to get an electric charge in a copper wire that is completely surrounded by rubber insulation.

Hervé
13th June 2013, 03:43
Except it ain't no electrical but etheric "substance" which is permeating the devices and focused.

As for Demeo have a peek at what Don Croft uncovered about him to get an idea of what that individual is all about.

Hence Demeo is no authority in the matter. Experiencers are.

Here is a better run down of the history of "Orgonite": http://whale.to/b/orgonite.html

bearcow
13th June 2013, 04:04
Except it ain't no electrical but etheric "substance" which is permeating the devices and focused.

ok, so what focuses and holds the etheric substance into the orgonite? if it can find its way in, couldn't it just as easily find its way out?

going to bed now, but ill say one more thing, The human energy system has a natural storage unit for the orgone/etheric substance/prana. In the west it is somewhat mistakenly referred to as the dan tien. For 99.9% percent of people this storage unit stays mostly empty, it does not naturally fill itself up. You have to put the energy into it. The meridians in the body are "wires" with open access points to efficiently aid in the filling of this energy storage container.

enfoldedblue
13th June 2013, 04:53
This is so inspiring guys all your pieces are beautiful. I just have a question. I notice that there is not much metal in Olams pieces, but a lot of the info I have read said that there should be a proximately 50% metal to resin for max power. One person said it's better to fill molds with as much metal as possible (even if it means some poking out) than have not enough metal bits. You both look pretty serious about your production so I am curious about your thoughts on this. I am artist and I feel less metal makes it more opportunity to get creative, but I don't want to sacrifice potency.

Thanks

enfoldedblue
13th June 2013, 05:20
Here is a article from James DeMeo, who is one of the leading modern researchers of Orgone alive today. He is a former research associate with the American College of Orgonomy, the most highly regarded and technically astute organization out there regarding Orgone therapy. I have talked to quite a few clinical trained orgone practitioners over the years and they all feel "orgonite" is bunk.


Growing Nonsense About Wilhelm Reich and Orgone Energy on Global Internet.


The current craze about "orgonite", "orgonium", "orgone generators", "orgone zappers", "chembusters" and similar distortions has done a tremendous damage to the research legacy of the late Dr. Wilhelm Reich, who discovered a new cosmic force in nature and called it the orgone energy. The abuse of fact in this crazed and very public distorion of Reich is comparable to someone who would abuse nutritional or herbal remedies, by claiming if you mixed those substances up with purple and pink glitter, and stuck a yin-yang or hex-symbol or mandala on your forehead when ingesting them, they would then "align the cosmic forces to bring you money, wealth, happiness, sex, power, love!", etc. Nutritional supplements and herbal remedies, when carefully used according to the scientific and empirical evidence worked out by generations of physicians and healers, can work a very powerful influence on human physiology, to cure many diseases or keep you well and strong. Reich's original orgone accumulator, in this comparative example, is an equally if not more powerful therapeutic agent for improving the immune system, and reducing symptoms of a variety of diseases, including cancer. It is, all by itself, a very serious scientific and medical breakthrough discovery and powerful therapeutic tool, and there's nothing mystical about it.
By contrast, the "orgonite" and "generator" gadgets are feeble imitators. Maybe if one has absolutely zero knowledge or prior experience on the subject, the very weak orgone radiation from the metallic components of an orgonite-generator gadget might introduce someone to the subjective aspects of the radiation, and give them some limited subjective sensations or even unusual biological reactions. But the whole context of Reich's discovery then gets mystified and distorted way beyond rationality. For example, one can feel the life-energy radiation even more strongly as it radiates off a plain old plastic bag filled with steel wool pads, as found in any hardware store. Allow such a bag of steel wool to gently rest on your open palms and the radiant field is nearly always present and sensible. The orgone life-energy is everywhere, and interacts with all kinds of materials, but only Reich's original orgone accumulator or orgone blanket with their layered construction makes optimal use of this discovery.
The undocumented nonsense spread by the "orgone lump" junk promoters drags Reich's findings into a mystical swamp. Worst of all are the "chembuster" people, claiming to "end chemtrails" (jet contrails, composed of humidity and some air pollution) using Reich's words and terms in abusive and inaccurate ways. The orgonite-generator-chemtrail gadgeteers make fantastic claims, complete with references to mystical "shadow worlds" and "dark forces", speaking about "shape shifting reptillians" who are "repulsed by chembusters" or by "Holy Hand Grenade" pyramids made from "orgonite". Or they claim that serious health problems from exposure to cell phone and tower radiation, or "smart meters" is going to be "neutralized" by putting some orgonite lumps in your back yard. This is madhouse folly creating an overall public denigration and ridicule of Reich's work among more serious-minded people, maligning his important and objectively demonstrated findings. If you are serious, please consult Reich's original writings on the subject of the orgone energy and accumulator.

- James DeMeo, PhD,
author of The Orgone Accumulator Handbook and
various experimental works on the subject.


How the distortions of "orgonite", "orgonium", "orgone generators", "orgone zappers", "orgone pyramids", "holy hand grenades", "chembusters", and other concoctions from the internet madhouse work to destroy Wilhelm Reich's research legacy, and reveal a profound hatred for the man and his works.

Over the last decade there has been a slow and steady growth of misinformation and distortion about Wilhelm Reich's work, found on the websites of people promoting things such as the Montauk Project or "Trance Channeling" the dead Reich from the grave, to milder mixtures of his ideas with mystical religious ideas. Perhaps the most bizarre and widespread distortions are found in the promotional materials for people selling products such as "chembusters", "holy hand grenades", "orgonite", "orgone generators", "orgone converters", "orgone zappers", "orgone pyramids" and a host of similar things. Notably, they all claim (without evidence) to have made great "advancements", going "beyond Reich", in a manner which makes a mockery of Reich's original solid and authentic natural-scientific findings.

There are "orgone crystal power accumulators" (bearing no resemblance whatsoever to Reich's original orgone accumulator), "orgone pendants" and "pendant-beamers" (again, no connections to Reich), "orgone manifestors", "orgone chalice transmuters", "tachyon orgone Reiki massage throw blankets", "biophoton orgone resonators", "therapeutic orgone wealth prosperity and money pillows", "orgone generators [for] love and sex" or for "weight loss" or "...career, business and prosperity", and "radionics rife orgone tesla HHG zappers", and even "orgone-powered ouija spirit boards" all sold with Reich's name and terms stuck to them like so much glitter sprinkled on glue. "Money! Wealth! Power! Sex!" some of them shamelessly proclaim. Virtually nothing in their materials or construction resembles Wilhelm Reich's original or authentic descriptions of orgone energy-accumulating structures, even though they boldly lie about it.

Whatever claims these people make to scientific evidence must rely upon research conducted by Reich or the professional scientists who have undertaken controlled experiments with the "plain" orgone accumulator in laboratories, and for which positive results have been obtained, including in universities under double-blind conditions -- see the on-line Bibliography on Orgonomy. Or, in a few cases where honest people have been duped, they simply do not know how Reich's discovery anticipates everything will carry an innate charge of orgone energy, with a weak radiant field. However, you can get a stronger charge and radiant field from any ordinary plastic bag of steel wool from the hardware store -- and the charge of the original and properly-constructed Reich orgone blankets and accumulators is greater still. For those who stumble upon Reich's discoveries by way of "orgonite" claims, it may really seem like authentic hot-shot thing, but it is a mere shadow of the original, and often a shadow fabricated by the gadgeteers' hand-puppets. People embracing the orgonite craze will remain trapped in ignorance until such time as stumbling over Reich's original publications and break free from the cult of misinformation.

In short, the internet "orgone gadget" sellers they have no defendable scientific evidence for any of their "additions" to the "old fashioned Reich", whom they claim to have advanced "far beyond". Their gadgets may seem more colorful and artistic than the plain old-fashioned orgone blanket, but in terms of function, they are lagging a light-year behind.

But it gets worse.

Upon digging deeper, on the "orgonite" websites and e-groups one often allusions to demons in other dimensions, to large government conspiracies such as "chemtrails", and from there to "shape-shifting reptilian space aliens" who have "substituted themselves into military and key government and UN positions", "taking over the bodies of aircraft pilots and ground crews, and well-known politicians", with the goal to poison their own countrymen and families with toxic chemicals secretly sprayed from the air. They make other references to "ascended masters" and such, and many are factually refugees from religious cults. The devices are promoted for "self defense" against the same demons and space-aliens. The "HHG" term means, for example, "Holy Hand Grenade", and supposedly acts like a regular hand-grenade bomb in some nether-worldly dimension inhabited by demons -- putting one of these on your desk is said to drive away the demons." Some advocates of this madness are refugees from the old mystic Saint Germain "I AM" cult, out of Mt. Shasta, while others more generally espouse "magik" terms which even a dedicated alchemist would be embarrassed to associate with. Reich's name, and his term "orgone", "cloudbuster" and similar terms as developed with specific meanings and used in authentic natural-scientific research are included in their on-line discussions and products they sell, sometimes quite openly to "Obtain Money! Power! Sex! and Magik!", as if there were some direct and honest relationship to Reich, which there most certainly is not.

Taken together, the individuals promoting these distortions drag Reich's good name and work down into a dirty mystical swamp, and little recognizable remains of his authentic research findings, on orgone energy or otherwise. For those struggling to get a clear picture of Reich's findings, these efforts have the result of dramatically muddying of the waters. It is a toss-up to know which is more damaging to Reich's name and work -- the outrageous falsifiers of the CSICOP "professional skeptic" variety, who engage in deliberate distortions as a means to ridicule the man and his work (see for example my article here: http://www.orgonelab.org/gardner.htm), or the "madhouse" internet distorters, whose embrace of Reich provides an equally hideous misportrayal.

At some point in the future, I may write up a more complete disclosure, providing names and websites of the worst offenders, but a simple internet or eBay search on the terms "Wilhelm Reich" or "orgone" will turn up quite a few of them, usually at the "top listings" and also on quite a few of the internet "adwords" advertisements hawking their stuff. A Google search of "orgone" turns up a half-million webpages, with perhaps only 1 out of 100 providing authentic information. Ebay in particular is littered with products abusing the term "orgone", and which have no relationship whatsoever to Reich's discoveries. In a recent survey I made at the time of this writing, eBay was selling 236 items with "orgone" in the title (or 375 in the title and descriptions) -- out of this number a total of Three (3), or around 1%, used the word with accuracy, roughly paralleling the situation on the larger internet search engines.

As a help, the OBRL website includes a special Resource Guide which provides the names and weblinks of most authentic Reich/Orgonomy institutes and organizations, and the very few manufacturers of authentic orgone energy accumulators. Certainly there may be some others we have missed who are not included, but it is a reasonably comprehensive and useful guide for the beginner to consult: http://www.orgonelab.org/resources.htm

James DeMeo, Ph.D.
Director, OBRL
April 2007 (revised August 2010)



These are the opinions of the leading orgone researchers in the world, not just mine

I am only interested in seeing the truth be told, so if you have evidence to back up faith in orgonite, i would like to see it.

Yes, I read that as well when I was researching. But I find it difficult to know what to believe because those who align with the more mainstream seem to find everything 'alternative' silly and often come across as though they think they are superior because they are on the side of reason. While I am no orgonite expert :p (haven't even got to hold one yet)...I know that many people who I trust rave about it, and I also know that in areas of health and nutrition the 'alternative' crew (IMO) far supersede the mainstream. So for me this is not enough to convince me it is nonsense.

Carmody
14th June 2013, 01:36
So, instead of being in layers, it is a 360 degree spherical, 3 D metal particles separated by an insulator... capacitor/condenser kind of stuff.


ok, so how does the charge get inside the capacitor if the insulator is on the outside

this is like trying to get an electric charge in a copper wire that is completely surrounded by rubber insulation.

Heaviside called metals, electrically sensitive ones, the perfect resistor, hence the skin effect. Not a conductor but an aetheric interrupter.

Solid
Liquid
gas
plasma
Aether

The solid is a break point and all the action happens at the surface. Note that quantum function happens - beginning with liquids... and that in spiritual form, we will get stuck in solids. The frozen lattice structure is the break point. We also have this effect where it takes a certain number of 'atoms' of a given element to be co-joined, before the metallic aspects appear (in the metallic elements). Each element is different in this.

That the noise comes from the imperfections and the level of perfection of the surface of the given conductor is what brings that particular wire 'perfection'. That the wire is an intrusion into the aether and the true field is around the wire in the same way that ripples in water flow around a rock. Think 'refractive differential'.

Modern research into superconductors supports Heaviside's observations. If one wants to show that to one's self, just go to www.physorg.com, and start reading all the articles in the physics/superconductor area, and it will become quite clear.

The article I just posted in the lithium thread, where cement is taken to the point of being conductive, also illustrates this reality.

everything is there, everything required to understand this. Most importantly, what I said about creating electret versions of working (properly made) devices remains true, even if this is true (not being effective) of the orgonite type devices.

This is very important, I will not allow that statement on electret construction of devices to be devalued in anyone's eyes, or dismissed.

I stuck my neck out when I said it and I will not be shot down and have it devalued, while the risk assumed remains in play.

For example, a mix of materials... and cycling gas, solid, and liquid, through a cycle continuously, in a sealed vessel, for months on end. To make the Stone, the manna of the gods. the philosopher's stone. It is said by David Hudson to be superconductive, cooper paired.

Not possible, right?

How about high temperature superconductors from simple means? Scotch tape.

Physicists induce high-temperature superconductivity in semiconductor with Scotch tape (http://phys.org/news/2012-09-physicists-high-temperature-superconductivity-semiconductor-scotch.html)

Suddenly it's not so crazy..but..very very real.

jack
14th June 2013, 21:11
https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/1016501_267912820015452_1873888830_n.jpg

Olam
16th June 2013, 12:25
This is so inspiring guys all your pieces are beautiful. I just have a question. I notice that there is not much metal in Olams pieces, but a lot of the info I have read said that there should be a proximately 50% metal to resin for max power. One person said it's better to fill molds with as much metal as possible (even if it means some poking out) than have not enough metal bits. You both look pretty serious about your production so I am curious about your thoughts on this. I am artist and I feel less metal makes it more opportunity to get creative, but I don't want to sacrifice potency.

Thanks

Hi there, yes metal content is very important in the devices, but also density counts too.
My stuff seems to not have much metal but in fact they do,.... I have a progression of density in the metals.
So in every pyramid I build I have a good amount of iron oxide, which is the black you can see in some pics.
The iron oxide is quite dense as the particles are almost at nano level, so a little goes a long way.
Its so dense that I had to add some other stuff in there so that it does not become an energetic brick wall.
As for others that doubt the real works of these devices,
all I can say is that I put them close to sick plants, gardens and other plants and they then thrive so well.
Lots to say here, maybe I can chip in more sometime.
Cheers

jack
18th June 2013, 00:28
I couldn't have said it much better Olam.

I have seen evidence to suggest that it is the surface area of the metal which is most important in regards to the power of the device. If you consider that a gram of iron oxide powder would have ten times the surface area (most probably much much higher) as 10 grams of aluminum shavings its safe to say that it takes a lot less powdered metal to achieve a powerful effect.

The 50% rule isn't really a rule. It was just used as an estimate to make as powerful device as possible. When powdered metals come into the picture that rule pretty much goes out the window.

enfoldedblue
23rd June 2013, 07:37
Well I have had some success with my last orgonite trial. However as I am not that sensitive to feeling energies in my surrounds I, so I am not sure if it really does anything. The toxicity of the material is somewhat off-putting to me. While I have an open mind...I am still not fully sold :) . Today I found this thread: http://natures-energies.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=152 and am curious what people here thought's are on this. Here is an excerpt:


Orgonite
A mix of metal fillings, crystals and resin.
The problem with orgonite.
The resin when manufactured is imprinted with the 50Hz frequency of the electrical mixer along with other toxic (positive ion) frequencies of the ingredients.
The metal filings also resonate at noxious (positive ion) frequency.
The crystals have a very weak ionic (negative ion) frequency, however struggle to maintain the ionic frequency when cast into the resin.
A piece of orgonite is a capacitor, which amplifies the resonance of all of the ingredients which creates an electromagnetic field of positive ion resonance.
If all or most of the ingredients resonate at a positive ion frequency, then the orgonite will produce organ stress.
The manufacturers are under the delusion that they are producing some organic/in-organic Orgone matrix, which is not so.
They need to learn to remove the toxic resonance of their ingredients before they are blended together to be able to claim that their products operate at a resonance which does not cause organ stress, and is able to create an ionic

Swan
23rd June 2013, 07:49
Personally, making orgonite with aluminum and polyester, just didn´t feel right.

On a previous thread ConnectedWithSauce suggested using melted sugar instead of resin, and copper instead of aluminum. http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?43953-Does-Orgonite-really-work-Myth-or-Fact&p=471984&viewfull=1#post471984So So that´s what I did. You melt the sugar and pour it into a glass jar with a crystal and copper shavings. I can´t swear they work, but they feel nice :)

I also made orgonite using pine resin. The pine resin is melted and then poured into a mold with a crystal and shavings. It smells and looks beautiful...like amber. But very fragile unfortunately.

Fractalius
23rd June 2013, 09:11
First saw this, and made a few objects using the concept, about 4 years ago.
Not standard shapes that we see posted here.
I have used tree resin too.
I had considered using silicon too.

Olam
23rd June 2013, 11:33
Personally, making orgonite with aluminum and polyester, just didn´t feel right.

On a previous thread ConnectedWithSauce suggested using melted sugar instead of resin, and copper instead of aluminum. http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?43953-Does-Orgonite-really-work-Myth-or-Fact&p=471984&viewfull=1#post471984So So that´s what I did. You melt the sugar and pour it into a glass jar with a crystal and copper shavings. I can´t swear they work, but they feel nice :)

I also made orgonite using pine resin. The pine resin is melted and then poured into a mold with a crystal and shavings. It smells and looks beautiful...like amber. But very fragile unfortunately.

This can work actually, but one thing is missing, you need to put some pressure on the crystal to have that piezo electric effect. Crystals put out an electric charge when under pressure, that is one key to it all.
So all you have to do is use paper binders, you know, the bended metal piece that squeezes paper together.
Get a strong one and put it on the crystal, you will then have a functional device.

Swan
23rd June 2013, 15:30
Thanks for the tip Olam! But the melted sugar and the pine resin does seem to shrink when it sets, so therefor there should be pressure on the crystal?

Olam
23rd June 2013, 16:19
Thanks for the tip Olam! But the melted sugar and the pine resin does seem to shrink when it sets, so therefor there should be pressure on the crystal?

The pressure might not be enough. I don't have numbers or percentages of stress to put on a crystal, but I would think that its not much pressure. Then again, crystals are very sensitive, so it might be good enough, I really don't know. I can only comment on what I have experienced.....
Maybe try the device on some sprouts, like wheat grass of something like that. If you get more growth and yield compared to a control setup, then you will know it is a functional device!

EYES WIDE OPEN
24th June 2013, 10:21
He named his farm Orgonon after Orgone energy that is required for cloud busting. Kate mentions it in the lyrics:

I still dream of Orgonon.
I wake up cryin'.
You're making rain,
And you're just in reach,
When you and sleep escape me.

You looked too small
In their big, black car,
To be a threat to the men in power.


This is the best page I have seen on the web regarding cloudbusting:
http://montalk.net/science/73/cloudbusting-resources

DNA
24th June 2013, 17:02
He named his farm Orgonon after Orgone energy that is required for cloud busting. Kate mentions it in the lyrics:

I still dream of Orgonon.
I wake up cryin'.
You're making rain,
And you're just in reach,
When you and sleep escape me.

You looked too small
In their big, black car,
To be a threat to the men in power.


This is the best page I have seen on the web regarding cloudbusting:
http://montalk.net/science/73/cloudbusting-resources

Mad props to you "eyes wide", for finding this little didy and bringing it back to the forefront.
It's really a good little synopsis.

MistahMojoRisin
24th June 2013, 17:24
I live in New ENgland and not far from Rangely Maine where he had his school. ZThere is a camp ground ther eand you can stay and take a tour of his school. I have had plans for over a year to head up there. I am looking to head up next week. More to come after I experiance it.

kenaz
25th June 2013, 02:26
This kills me, so alone...
4t5h-93bxOY

risveglio
26th June 2013, 15:52
I am not sure if this is just a scam, maybe the directions for this device is some where for free but it does tell "a history" of Dr. Wilhelm Reich and claims to be a free energy generator.

http://www.orgone-generator.com/

Bob
26th June 2013, 22:52
Howdy Harmony - I will not reply with the full quote you have above (great one btw ! ) I do want to mention, I was up at Rangely Maine in the US and did visit Reichs old place, and I did personally witness the tree damage (still present in the 80's) surrounding the area where he did his DOR (Deadly Orgonne energy Radiation) experiments.

Thank you SO much for bringing to the attention to the group the above post.

As a technically qualified researcher and designer and builder, I was able to duplicate and come up with the physics behind the operation of the accumulators, and of course the cloud-busters, and reduce the pseudo-scientific explanations into hard core physics. That of course lead into actual modern functioning apparatus, and then such apparatus was modernized and contemporized into apparatus which took the basics to the logical outcomes.

Reich, Ruth Drown, Abrams all were explorers as well as DeLaWar. Anyone really wanting to understand the history should look at all those researchers.

Bobd

Shannow
11th July 2013, 09:54
My first ever foray into orgonite was a fair few years ago now...was mixing and matching metals and stones. Placed some in the garden, and was rewarded with some pretty strange looking strawberries. One plant only, one crop only, and only normal looking large ones ever after.

http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b42/akashafamily/IMG_0289.jpg
http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b42/akashafamily/IMG_0288.jpg

Message from the Greenman ?

soleil
11th July 2013, 15:49
wow what a wonky strawberry.
loving all the orgonite posts. im going to be making these for my house very soon!

Shannow
12th July 2013, 23:51
Was actually two strawberries, but neither here nor there.

Interested in comments on some yard work that I'm currently planning/in progress.

I'm going to make some rammed earth walls, both as fence-lines, and walls to support the concrete benches of a BBQ and preparation area.

Will be buying in materials, and using what I can find, but the basic recipe will be mostly decomposed pink granite, power station flyash (source of amorphous silica), a little cement and a little lime. .possible some washing soda (essentially the key ingredient in Natron) to provide a geopolymer ageing. Sort of a cross between Roman Concrete (lime/ash), and some of the pyramid theories.

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?57243-The-Great-Pyramid-Mystery-Solved&p=700441&highlight=#post700441

Test pieces have only been cast/rammed for a week, and are hardening nicely, holding up to rain, and starting to show the granite.

Why post here ?

Dawned on me last night that as I've been researching how I want to build these walls, I keep coming back to granite.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Granite

Given that it's largely quartz, is heavily compacted, leaving some residual compression in the material, I'm wondering what it's activity might be in reasonable massive structures (8" thick, 4 feet high, 8 feet long), and how it could be improved in design...

Comments ???

Carmody
13th July 2013, 16:10
Regarding orgonite:

the finer the particles, the better the result MAY be.

Nano integration of energy waves that happen at nano wavelengths.

You must match resonance.

This can be a danger area, though. Be careful. particle size also becomes an oxidation/ignition issue, in the standard chemical analysis sense.

778 neighbour of some guy
14th July 2013, 21:55
Regarding orgonite:

the finer the particles, the better the result MAY be.

Nano integration of energy waves that happen at nano wavelengths.

You must match resonance.

This can be a danger area, though. Be careful. particle size also becomes an oxidation/ignition issue, in the standard chemical analysis sense.

Hi Carmody,

Would it be ok to use steel wool, the information is very confusing, as a layman I am interested but also look for the simplest ways of achieving the maximum effect with the least amount of effort, do you have any step 1/2/3 ready tips for beginners? Or are you saying not to even bother because of the conflicting claims regarding the useful/effectiveness as a whole, I understand it does have the capacity to cut out electro smog and such, it would be nice when I at least could clear my living space from this.

avid
15th September 2013, 14:20
http://beforeitsnews.com/alternative/2013/09/orgone-and-orgonite-a-primer-2762308.html?currentSplittedPage=0

The wondrous Zen Gardner has posted some great info on the above link. Also, there are videos showing how it's done. Amazingly easier than I thought. There are some suppliers info also. I've just ordered some for my garden (to try to heal my poorly pine trees) and house - to clean up the wifi and cell phone rubbish.

Well worth a read.

sheme
15th September 2013, 14:28
Thanks for the reminder.

S-L
15th September 2013, 15:11
Interesting link, but I would like to clarify. Is Orgone energy the same as Life Force/Qi/Prana (http://www.newmessage.org/greater-community-spirituality-what-is-life-force/)?

DeDukshyn
15th September 2013, 15:51
Interesting link, but I would like to clarify. Is Orgone energy the same as Life Force/Qi/Prana (http://www.newmessage.org/greater-community-spirituality-what-is-life-force/)?

From much of what I have read, it is indeed thought to be the same or very similar type of energy.

Original orgone technology was a bit more complex and often used electrical power sources. However someone determined that Crystals can supply the needed energy to the resin and metal matrix - and that is how the modern orgone devices came to be. Is it valid to assume that a few crystals could supply enough energy to make these new simple modern devices work? I am not 100% sure, but quartz does have some amazing powers to receive high frequency energy -- we all know this because this is how a radio receives a broadcast -- a quartz crystal receives the signal - then it is amplified. That might beg the question though, is it enough? Anecdotes on people's success with modern orgone generators says it might be.

I would really like to get my hands on some of Wilhelm Reich's old equipment ;)

Here I found to be one of the best sites on the topic: http://educate-yourself.org/dc/orgonegenindex.shtml

One of Wilhelm's cloudbusters:

spiritguide
15th September 2013, 16:14
Lumerian seed crystals are best for making orgone wands. Bee's wax and silver, iron and gold filings mixed with and poured into wand. Wand is made of copper tube or similar.

Peace!

avid
15th September 2013, 17:05
Now I'm confused spiritguide - what are Lumerian seed crystals? We are trying to get everyday persons to get everyday solutions. Everyday accessibility! As near as pure as possible without breaking the bank :-O

vortexpoint
15th September 2013, 17:41
Now I'm confused spiritguide - what are Lumerian seed crystals? We are trying to get everyday persons to get everyday solutions. Everyday accessibility! As near as pure as possible without breaking the bank :-O

Spiritguide means Lemurian seed crystals. They are a quarts crystal variety that are mined in particular mine/mines in Brazil.

http://www.innervisioncrystals.net/collections/lemurian-seed-crystals

avid
15th September 2013, 17:58
I'm sorry - but to make orgonite we have to adapt to any other equivocal materials. I don't see why I should spend a fortune getting some 'Lemurian' crystals when others may suffice. Get from the earth - which is globally available, adapt it, and do it. Quartz is quartz, metal is globally available - I reckon the only problem is acquiring the resin! Hopefully your DIY store isn't shut! This is not a time to be precious - it is a time to be proactive. Sorry if I'm negating the veracity of the 'Lemurian' crystals - they are probably wondrous - but prove it!

spiritguide
15th September 2013, 18:10
Now I'm confused spiritguide - what are Lumerian seed crystals? We are trying to get everyday persons to get everyday solutions. Everyday accessibility! As near as pure as possible without breaking the bank :-O

Quartz crystals can be found on e-bay and are very in-expensive. As described they are crystals from Brazil and are thought to be remnants of the ancient civilization of Lemuria. Lemuria as well as Atlantis used crystal technology extensively. The following link has extensive knowledge provided about crystals.

http://www.crystalinks.com/gemstones.html

Hope this helps, forgot that this knowledge is not widely known. Understanding crystals and their energies is part of the elementals (forces of the universe). Spelled Lemurian wrong also, oops!

Peace!

DeDukshyn
15th September 2013, 18:17
Now I'm confused spiritguide - what are Lumerian seed crystals? We are trying to get everyday persons to get everyday solutions. Everyday accessibility! As near as pure as possible without breaking the bank :-O

Lumurian seed crystals are a quartz variation. Supposedly remnants from crystals used in Lemuria. They are generally a bit expensive, but very high quality crystals; at the same time there are a lot of fakes (people taking advantage of the price difference between these and regular quartz), and even the process for determining a Lemurian Seed is a bit subjective. But if you check on any gemstone site you should be able to find them.

Herkimer Diamonds are also very powerful crystals, another variation of quartz - only found in the Herkimer mines, I believe. The got their name because of their extra-ordinary clarity and hardness -- close to that of diamond. These are also a fair bit more expensive than your garden variety quartz, which is offset by their incredibly beauty and energy.

Basically, for orgone generators -- any type of quartz will do - but the crystals should be carefully chosen. On the page that the previous link I posted goes to, there is also a guide for how to read crystals and chose them for these devices based on the crystals properties; a little more advanced, but for those who have interest, it is all there. (http://educate-yourself.org/dc/orgonegenindex.shtml) EDIT: sorry, the crystal choosing info isn't at that link ... I'll try to find it ...

spiritguide
15th September 2013, 18:20
I shared knowledge learned, your path is your path. Do as you wish, the technology is available. Sorry if guiding you to some answers upset you it was not my intention. If you so choose delete my post.

Peace!

DeDukshyn
15th September 2013, 18:27
I'm sorry - but to make orgonite we have to adapt to any other equivocal materials. I don't see why I should spend a fortune getting some 'Lemurian' crystals when others may suffice. Get from the earth - which is globally available, adapt it, and do it. Quartz is quartz, metal is globally available - I reckon the only problem is acquiring the resin! Hopefully your DIY store isn't shut! This is not a time to be precious - it is a time to be proactive. Sorry if I'm negating the veracity of the 'Lemurian' crystals - they are probably wondrous - but prove it!

For resin, you can simply use fibreglass resin from your building supplies store. maybe $10 for a tin large enough to make several. For metal shavings, just go to a machine shop -- they'll give them to you - the spirally ones are the best apparently, but there is some consensus that says avoid Aluminum for use in these.

avid
15th September 2013, 18:27
I have a massive crystal collection - I am a healer utilising quartz crystals - they are cleansed with distilled water and reactivated in pure sun/moonlight. I do Reiki, and I do know that a 'charged' crystal can help an unhealthy' area in the body over a period of time - some in days - but some within weeks. I purify and recharge each giant crystal daily. They are like my 'health farm' implements. I love them. I don't know where they came from, but truly, they are wondrous. Thanks for the info. :-)

GreenGuy
15th December 2013, 03:43
I have a real interest in orgonite, so I'm giving this a bump.

How many folks here have actual hands-on experience with using and making it?

Arak
15th December 2013, 07:44
How many folks here have actual hands-on experience with using...
'Bit over month ago I bought 2 orgonite pyramids in order to see how they work and if it would be cool to start doing those. Unfortunately I have not noticed any effect - positive or negative - with these pyramidids. They look kinda pretty, but that is all the magic there seems to be. Shame. I wish they would have done something I could sense. And neither has my wife noticed any changes in energis in our bedroom where we placed orgonites.

Deega
15th December 2013, 15:59
I have a real interest in orgonite, so I'm giving this a bump.

How many folks here have actual hands-on experience with using and making it?


Hi GreenGuy, I had made quite a few orgon pyramids, bun type one, large bowl to put up beside my electric meter.

Does it work?, I think it does, I bought a Gauss Meter to check if orgon lower the Radio Frequencies of different electronic systems like power supply in computer, TV, etc.

What I did was to have the computer functioning, I would take a measure near the power supply, then I would place an orgon between the power supply and the Gauss Meter, checking again if the Gauss Meter needle would changed, in all the experiments that I did (not a large quantity though) it was lowering frequencies emissions to about 20% approximately. So, for me, it works, and if you want to raised the «lowering» of frequencies, you will have to build one bigger.

The problem is, a power supply emits frequencies in all directions so, the orgon can only take what come out of the power supply in one direction, so you see the limited effect of an orgon over a power supply for example.

Let me know what you will experience?

Olam
15th December 2013, 18:26
I love pouring for orgone.
Its one of the best meditations I can do. I'm busy, but very still inside.
Put 2 pyramids on top of my small speakers. Thats great activation with the electro magnetic speaker feild.
I have some, maybe 10ft apart everywhere in the appartment.
I love the soft cushy space/time feel I get from my local reality.

Hi Olam,

I would appreciate you tell me what type of mould you're using for the pyramid one, I experience a metal one, used pam oil before pouring, when hard, in getting the orgone out the mould, the tip of the pyramid came off. Do you use plastic mould and if so, where do you buy them...?

Many thanks.

All my blessings.

Deega

I just realized I never answered your question....sorry!, a few years later...lol
I use all kinds of molds, the pyramids you see were done with some found on ebay, tin metal ones. They don't last very long if you are not careful with them. The best is to put silicon lubricant in them before pouring and so they usually just pop out...
http://i1340.photobucket.com/albums/o738/olam1/DSC08356_2_zps017f6d79.jpg
http://i1340.photobucket.com/albums/o738/olam1/DSC08357_2_zpsabad4588.jpg
http://i1340.photobucket.com/albums/o738/olam1/DSC08359_2_zpsd2529480.jpg
http://i1340.photobucket.com/albums/o738/olam1/DSC08358_2_zps9d306495.jpg

Arak
15th December 2013, 18:30
Wow Olam, those orgonites are stunning!

Deega
15th December 2013, 18:40
Hey Olam, AMAZING, no problem responding late, you've show a very great arsenal of orgons, thanks on you to shared.

The best to you!

Olam
15th December 2013, 18:54
thanks everyone!..there sure are a quantity of quality orgone out there, the energy is spreading!
I actually have stopped pouring for a while now as I am going to meditate on top of a mountain in southern france for a few months.....leaving in Feb 2014...
So the devices you see in the pictures have to go if any are interested!
Sorry for the plug, its not my style, but these crystals have to find a home!
cheers

Earth Angel
1st February 2014, 23:07
where can we see what is available Olam and what are the prices? I have just started looking for a orgone pyramid this week!


thanks everyone!..there sure are a quantity of quality orgone out there, the energy is spreading!
I actually have stopped pouring for a while now as I am going to meditate on top of a mountain in southern france for a few months.....leaving in Feb 2014...
So the devices you see in the pictures have to go if any are interested!
Sorry for the plug, its not my style, but these crystals have to find a home!
cheers

Also I have looked into buying an orgone pyramid and the one I liked was in BC by Fifth Elements http://www.fifthelementorgone.com/ I contacted Peter to order one and was told he was sold out and can't start making more again until March....then I found another person making them in NY and he said also he can't make them when its cold.......I had thought that perhaps I would just make some pucks and pyramids myself but then wondered about this weather thing, do they have to set outside?? or can they be made in the warmth of my home?? any tips would be appreciated.

Earth Angel
25th February 2014, 17:36
well I couldn't find any online that I liked to buy (they stop making them in the cold months apparently) so i bought some resin and crystals and made two of my own this week and a puck or two.
Its very tricky as the temperature in the room greatly impacts the drying time as do the inks we added for colour. Trying to figure out how much catalyst to use is tricky and as a 32 oz can cost me $65 its not something you want to play around with a lot of trial and error.
These two came out pretty well but the second one dried much faster and we have some issues with bubbles.
I wish I was one of those energy sensitive people who could say wow , the energy I feel being near it is amazing but I am not....however my pendulum tells me that the energy is positive.
here are a couple of pictures, two pyramids and a puck.

Deega
25th February 2014, 19:13
Hey Earth Angel, there are beautiful, whoua!, I like them, if your pendulum tells it's positive, that's what it is!

The best to you!

Olam
26th February 2014, 15:35
Earth Angel, those are much better than my first ones... its a super great start!
OK, I will respond to you here for what you asked,
First of all, if you plan to do a lot more of this, I suggest you find a place where you can buy the resin in 5-10 gallon containers, it will be much less expensive. The resin you find in art supply stores is way too expensive. I myself bought a whole 45 gallon drum of it and saved so much money, but at the same time, the resin has a short shelf life ( usually 3 months) so its a hectic time of building everyday before reaching the deadline.
OK, then, a big part of what makes a good orgone device is metal content. If you don't have a lot of metal in there, it can be beautiful but not very functional or powerful. The best would be to fill the whole space with metal but then its not as beautiful as you don't see much of what is in there. So I came up with a recipe where I do a premold (black donut shape at the base of my pyramids), its composed mainly of iron oxide particles which are very small, its like volatile powder form. This is a good way because you get a lot of surface density in a small area. I then insert this premold once its well cured inside the mild. If you premold some stuff, make sure it had time to gas off, in other words when it does not smell anymore, its done, usually anywhere from a few days to maybe even weeks depending on temperature,catalyst content and air humidity in the workshop.
Also, if you put nice big crystal points in there as I saw you did, you want to preheat the crystals before inserting in the mold. When the resin cures it heats up, if you have a big temperature difference between the resin and components, the resin will not adhere well to the surface of the crystal and you can have fissures and big cracks in the finished product. For the pyramids you see in my pictures, I would put the crystal points under a heating lamp while I was preparing the rest. You want the crystals to be hot enough to be difficult to touch with the fingers.
Don't heat them in an oven though, they might crack!
If you do have cracked crystals, its a shame if its a beautiful one, but it can still work fine in the device.
It would break my heart to do this, but I would use crushed crystals in some of my creations and it works the same but has more density, a bit like when I use the iron oxide.
For the ink, use the stuff they sell to use in stained glass work. Its translucide and won't darken the resin to the point of not seeing anything.
If you use sparkles, make sure they are metal, lots of sparkles are plastic and will just turn to goop when heated in the resin...
Last think I can think of for now is your workshop.... make sure you have controlled temperature and stable humidity. This way you eliminate variables that affect curing times and then it will be easier to figure out how much catalyst to use, you will develop a feel for quantities as you go forward. I myself also like to prepare myself for the work, I don't poor if I am having a crappy day or if in a bad mood!
It becomes a meditation and I can pour many hours in a day.
Oh and please consider using a gas mask( I use a 3M mask).....its very important if you are going to pour a lot.
Those gases are very very bad for our lungs and its a cumulative effect....
I can add more if anyone has questions as I love to see more and more people pouring.....we need to get this technology out there!
cheers

sheme
26th February 2014, 15:57
My Organite pyramid cannot be found , it has vanished? Now where did I put it to do most good. LOL

If you use Fiberglass gel -be warned the catalyst 'organic peroxide' is very dangerous (cause splash blindness )and can if the quantity depth of the organite is deep enough, can cause combustion. keep away from kids idiots and water while making. Prepare for every eventuality and have loads of acetone and fresh air for cleaning.

Read and understand the safety sheet.

Earth Angel
26th February 2014, 18:59
thank you Olam for all the info.......I find that the pyramids are still releasing inks on the skin ( we used water colour inks)
the mask is a great idea, as although we worked under an exhaust fan, I found a strange feeling in my nose and throat after spending 3 hours in the studio.......the day before took 6 hours but as it was cooler and was taking longer between levels to dry I was in and out of the room

I used the pendulum to ask if it had good energy and got yes, when I asked was it a very powerful pyramid I got no.....I am thinking that I may not have used enough metal......there is a spiral around the citrine stone (heavy copper wire) and then I cut up about 12 feet of lighter copper wire into circles and put that in the bottom......I am thinking this is not enough (see picture)
perhaps I need to focus more on function and less on pretty !

Heating the stones is something I wouldn't have thought of and I noticed my favourite chrysocolla has bubbles on them...I put them on the layer when set and added resin, perhaps I should pour some resin then add the stone and top up?

Michaels is definitely not the place to buy the resin although I did need to test it out to see if this was something I am interested in doing at all so I got two 32 oz cans to play with.

Hope you are enjoying your time in France and thanks for taking the time out to reply.

Earth Angel
2nd March 2014, 18:18
bump!! Im just starting to make orgone pyramids myself and very interested in anyones experience making or using them.

outerheaven
2nd March 2014, 18:41
One of the things I like to make out of orgonite are coasters. I'll fill two glasses with tap water, charge one of them on the coaster for an hour or longer, while the other acts as the control. I then present the glasses to friends and ask if they can tell a difference (not telling them which glass is which, or them seeing or having any idea about orgonite, etc).

My friends have consistently remarked that the orgonite-charged water tastes smoother and purified. Admittedly, some people can't tell a difference, but then I'll poke and suggest to look "not so much for taste, but mouth-feel" and they pick the orgonite-water as having a smoother feel. My prodding could be seen as contaminating the scientific process, yes, but still -- it nonetheless produces consistent results, which might mean something.

I've tested it in other ways and have gotten results. It's enough that I believe in it ... though I will admit, I will always be slightly skeptical, since I was such a "cold hard facts" guy before my awakening. I'm not crazy to announce my other experiments here, but play around with it and you'll see.

In my honest opinion? The process of making orgonite is what gives it its power. Our thoughtforms create the reality we experience. There's a process to make orgonite, and the rationale is backed by Reich's science, which gives it more credibility in our consciousness, thus allowing us to give it more power. For someone like me -- I tend to be more "skeptical" and needing evidence before I leap into far-fetched conclusions, for better or worse -- this is key!

Anything specific you want to know?

edit: I am surprised that orgonite hasn't gotten more attention around here, by the way. Seems like it should be up this forum's alley completely -- IMO, it's a great way to practice creating our desired reality. For whatever reason, it hasn't seem to caught on around here, though. Take a look at warriormatrix.com if you haven't already for others' experiences.

DeDukshyn
2nd March 2014, 19:35
...

edit: I am surprised that orgonite hasn't gotten more attention around here, by the way. Seems like it should be up this forum's alley completely -- IMO, it's a great way to practice creating our desired reality. For whatever reason, it hasn't seem to caught on around here, though. Take a look at warriormatrix.com if you haven't already for others' experiences.


It does have some interest, but I think the fact that there is a lot of "unknowns" with how the stuff actually works, (it seems to simple to be true), people aren't "hot" about it, and probably for good reason (blind faith in this sense isn't good either). The fact that there IS a life force unrecognized by science (its recorded by almost all cultures), and the fact that this life force can be occasionally demonstrated as form of energy (chi masters that can inflict shock like pain on others with it), means there is certainly something to Reich's research into orgone. But still many unanswered questions.

I am a tad skeptical, but I have researched orgone and the works of Reich a fair bit; I reserve my skepticism for certain new designs / methods and whether they would actually do anything or not, but I will wait until I can actually build some of my own and try to get a feel for what they are actually doing, before passing that judgement.

Something I noticed was that Reich's inventions were all powered by large amounts of electricity -- extremely well powered devices. I believe it was the works of Don Croft and Carol ... Croft? that indicated that an external power source was not required, because a quartz crystal had the qualities that allowed the device to be powered from higher forms of energy. It's probably important to clean the crystals before this type of use. I see some designs that have no crystals, so if the power logic holds, I'd say those devices likely don't work well, but again, I'd need first hand experience before passing that judgement.

Earlier in this thread Carmody touches on powering these, and I have seen many designs for powered orgone generators using batteries, or specific frequencies of electrical input, but there are usually a load of cautions that go along with these designs, as Carmody points out in his post.

Another caution I have heard is to never use aluminum, but there is never a reason given. Many people use aluminum shavings.

I'll try to find some of my resources for this info and post it here if I do.

amor
7th May 2014, 06:13
I once read that the man who discovered orgone radiation for curing cancer placed persons in a cube-shaped metal box where they received gentle, focused radiations. Supposedly the shape of the enclosure and the mateial from which it is made, combine to focus the energies of the zero field which compose matter in such a way that the focused radiations interfere with the disease process.

mpod001
6th June 2014, 22:46
Hi Guys,

Has anyone used orgonite at all? I was introduced to it recently and just got my first piece of it today...omg as soon as I opened the box I could feel the negative energy vanish...couldnt stop giggling to myself and just felt so so happy...weird!

I sooooo recommend them :-D

Shezbeth
6th June 2014, 22:53
There are a variety of threads on Avalon that discuss and reference the uses, benefits and experiences with Orgonite.

Edit: Apologies, I copied and pasted the links. They work fine for me, but that might be user-specific. Thank you Sidney for providing working links to the other threads.

mpod001
6th June 2014, 22:54
Nothing comes up when I click the links :(

jake gittes
6th June 2014, 22:54
Shezbeth: Sorry - no matches. Please try some different terms.

Sidney
6th June 2014, 22:59
Try this
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?59948-Orgonite&highlight=ORGONITE


and these

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?63387-What-Orgone-is-and-how-to-make-Orgonite&highlight=ORGONITE

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?43953-Does-Orgonite-really-work-Myth-or-Fact&highlight=ORGONITE

LivioRazlo
7th June 2014, 02:45
Could you upload a photo of what you have and possibly a link of where you bought it from?

Cara
7th June 2014, 04:46
I have to agree, I got some organite a couple of months ago and I could feel its zinging energy as soon as the package arrived in my home. I too felt full of excitement and happy on opening the box and placing the items all around my apartment.

I bought quite a few items, as living in Dubai, where everything is wired to the max and built into the apartment walls etc., I was pretty sure I would need a lot to overcome all the EMF and environmental stresses and strains I was being exposed to.

I bought it from a fabulous store called Orgonise Africa:
http://www.orgoniseafrica.com/

I bought the package called Essential Orgonite plus a few other items:
http://www.orgoniseafrica.com/essential-orgonite.html#.U5KX8MsaySM

http://www.orgoniseafrica.com/essential-orgonite.html#.U5KX8MsaySM

They have lots of different products including pendants that you can wear, orgonite zappers, cell phone buttons, as well as the more usual items. They also have some information and research links on the site and, what I like best about the company, they go off on excursions to donate organite to areas that need it (places with no money and who have large cell phone towers). All of this is on the website.

Cheers,
searcher

Arak
7th June 2014, 10:48
I bought 2 orgonites few months ago. One is next to my bed, other is next to wireless router in my work room. I have not noticed any changes in energies. Biggest change was achieved when I stopped bringing my iPhone to bedroom for the night. That really made good for my sleep.

Shannow
7th June 2014, 11:56
Better half fractured her elbow last weekend, and for whatever reason, I got an idea.

Recyclable plastic "2" High Density Polyethylene is pretty molten at around 180C.

Layer Plastic 2, al foil, in a lasagna tray...lined with silicone baking paper.

Bake (Gas BBQ is OK, but uneven temperature, oven works best) at 180C, until the plastic is gooey...place another layer of paper over it, and squeeze the gooey mess together with another tray on top.

Cool in standing water, as it take a long time to not be dangerously sticky.

Stuck the pad under her elbow in bed the first night after I made it (foil side up), and she reported a much better sleep.

Stuck it under the (inner spring) matress the next, and it provides a very very good night's sleep. She can roll onto the damaged side and not wake.

Have a play, and report back.

outerheaven
7th June 2014, 15:29
I've made a fair amount of orgonite and learned a bit from the process!

The first thing I learned, the strength of the orgonite is determined by your intention when making the device. This might sound easier than it actually is -- some pieces I was excited about and just wanted to finish, but didn't have my mind in the right place. Sometimes I waited for the right state of mind, sometimes my eagerness got the best of me. The orgonite pieces I made when my mind was calmer and more focused are definitely stronger.

The most important thing I've learned, though, is that the orgonite device itself is a physical manifest of our focused intentions. It works, because it is like a visual aid -- it helps us recall our intentions when creating it, it helps us recall our intention of what we want it to do in the first place. It is there, it is physical, you can see it and touch it and hold it, and it helps your mind to manifest that reality.

The things that orgonite can do for us are things we are capable of doing naturally. We shouldn't need the orgonite naturally. But, "real life" gets in the way ... and so it helps to have that "reminder."

I think it's a fun thing to make, and a neat little lesson about ourselves, too. I honestly wouldn't purchase any orgonite pieces because of what I listed above -- not saying you won't get a good piece, but who knows what the maker was thinking about when he created it? Besides -- it's a fun project that you can enjoy by yourself or with someone else! Might give making your own a try some day. :)

Hervé
7th June 2014, 15:44
That's OK, no need to despair if one bought a piece of orgonite from someone else...

... one can "reprogram" it:


Intentions
http://whale.to/b/intentions.html


After proper scientific investigation I can now reveal some amazing results that I have had with my Intentions and the Succor Punch. A little background first.

I work in a call center for a major auto insurance company. On the average an adjuster will receive between 40-80 calls per 8 hour shift. When we are slammed with calls, meaning customers waiting on hold, the stress rises. When we have no calls on hold and many minutes between calls to complete work on previous calls, the stress is held at bay. On top of the calls, we are also monitored and graded on our customer service skills. Our company uses something called the “A Call”. We are graded in four categories for each call and can receive a score of 1 (being the worst) up to a 4 (being the best). If you get a 4 in all four categories then your call is rated an “A”. The more “A calls” you get the higher your raise at the end of the year.

When talking to my supervisor one day during a low call volume period, he was looking at my SP and wondering what the heck it’s supposed to do. Among many things, I told him that it is known to disable electronic surveillance. He then asked me if it would block monitoring on phone calls. Hmmm, good question. However, a better question would be “Can it be programmed to only let me get monitored if I’m going to get an A call?” I told him I would program the SP for this task and let him know the results.

Normally an adjuster will be monitored 2-3 times a week. The average adjuster may get about 60-75% A calls during a month. I programmed the SP with the intention to only allow me to get monitored if I’m getting an A call just to see what would happen. The next day at the end of my shift my supervisor called me over to his desk but didn’t let me know what it was about. When I got there he let me know that I had been monitored that day; not once, not twice, but three times…in the same day. And all three calls were rated an A call. His face was kind of pale with a confused look, and asked me how that was possible. I told him that I had programmed the SP as I had stated and that it must be working. As it turned out, I was the only adjuster in this regional office’s history to get monitored 3 times in one day, not to mention all A calls. Of course I was overjoyed, and thinking how many of my associates would like to own their own SP. I shared the results of my research with my closest associates and they were very interested but no one asked how they could get one. Oh well, their loss.

So I planned another phase of research. Next, I thought how about doing something about the call volumes that had been stressing everyone out? So I programmed the SP with my intentions to lower the call volumes and placed the SP right next to my phone. Then I thought, hmmm…how would that be accomplished? Of course if the caller is a policyholder with our company they can always log on to our website and get answers. Possibly the SP could convince many of the callers to log on instead of calling. And of course, maybe get them to just drive safer. Many, many possibilities. I figured I would just leave it up to universal law. Specifically I programmed the SP to balance the calls instead of stopping them altogether. Otherwise, we wouldn’t have jobs. Just prior to this new programming, the calls had been non-stop with up to 20 calls on hold at a time. After programming the SP with the new intent, the next 4 days were heavenly to say the least. Everyone had time between calls to finish up work, eat a snack, and even read a few pages in a book. It got downright boring sometimes. But I wasn’t complaining. Just loving it.

Then I thought, what would happen if I take the SP away from the phone and disengage my intent? So I left it home for the next two days, and we were slammed on the phones again. I told my supervisor what I was doing and he demanded that I bring the SP back to work again. But alas, he didn’t yet want to get one of his own. He did however buy some of Christie’s personal enhanced HHgs for his home. He’s very happy with them and his kids love them.

We went on vacation in June for 2 ½ weeks and when I got back to the office, I brought the SP with me and placed it next to the phone with the “balance the call volumes” intent and I had a really mellow first day back. And I needed it because I had a lot of work to catch up on. The next few days were just as mellow. So I inquired of my desk partner about call volumes over the past 2 ½ weeks and he told me just prior to my coming back they had been constantly slammed on the phones, even at night, right up to midnight. I just smiled and said, “You’re welcome”. He just looked at me quizzically.

I keep experimenting and getting the same results. I’ve also programmed the SP to help me to handle difficult callers and it never fails. We all get some pretty irate callers sometimes, but when I’m finished with the call the caller is amazed at how calm they feel. They ask me, “What did you do to me?” for example, and I just tell them to get a good sleep and heal from the accident, thanks for the call.

Peace,

Fred
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"All truths are easy to understand once they are discovered; the point is to discover them." ~ Galileo Galilei

skyflower
7th June 2014, 17:25
Hi Fred,

Your story is awesome. I need to get one I can carry around with me. I just got a new client who gives me a size able volume of business but is psychotic, and likes to yell instead of talking. She asks for one thing and gets irate when I bring her what she asked for, claiming that is not what she wanted.

I was going to give this client a try another month or two to see if I can nail down a communication line. I may as well add some orgonite. If this person doesn't mellow out a bit, then I will quit doing business with this client, as no amount of money is worth all the bad energy I need to process out, for days, wile working with this client.

Hervé
7th June 2014, 18:00
Pssssttt... Fred is the author of the article that can be found at the "whale.to" website and I don't think he is a member of this forum... apologies for that post being confusing.

skyflower
8th June 2014, 04:39
Pssssttt... Fred is the author of the article that can be found at the "whale.to" website and I don't think he is a member of this forum... apologies for that post being confusing.

Amzer it is still an awesome story! Thanks for sharing. :)

xbusymom
17th June 2014, 13:53
I have an idea to alter the form for expanding the market-ability of orgonite... but I want to find out How the sales are for the traditional orgonite pyramids going?

Sean
21st June 2014, 14:26
Hi there. So, I just got my first piece of Orgonite, pics, front and back:
http://i61.tinypic.com/2h7qe8o.jpg

http://i61.tinypic.com/w80qyu.jpg

got it from a place called crystal matrix in atwater village, ca(Glendale, basically)

http://www.thecrystalmatrix.com/

It feels good. I noticed/felt positive energy from it right away; the energy seems to be centered around my head area. I can feel it in my teeth, and center of forehead(Pineal activation?). I don't know. I'll post up any experiences as I have them.

TravelerJim
25th July 2014, 20:04
I think this question for the group and it could be placed in a number of threads - please move it if there is a better place.

In any case. I was playing with this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EmQqZFAGhtM

Essentially a frequency that is supposed to be that of orgone energy. Dies anyone have any thoughts on this one or any other sound track as a way to absorb or use orgone energy?

Interesting to note that I work from home and twice a day lay down for ten minute using some sort of binaural beat or isonchonic sound track. When I used this one today the doorbell rang half through the session and this never happens.

Thank you in advance.

TraineeHuman
26th July 2014, 02:55
Orgone (life-energy, negative electric charge and ions) is great. It's available from natural quartz of any kind (but certainly not from quartz batteries or clocks). It has nothing to do with "orgonite".

I happen to know for a fact that orgonite gives off basically positive ions, which is, basically, what anti-life energy is made of. Orgonite is made primarily of resin (strongly anti-life, positive ionisation) and some metal (also anti-life energy and ions) plus a little natural quartz. The nett result is still an anti-life (or service-to-self) energy. Don't believe me. If you don't have the (advanced) psychic skill or the dowsing skill to tell the difference, I'd like to suggest contacting an expert who can confirm this.

Demeisen
18th August 2014, 21:26
I agree with TraineeHuman. Long ago I got bunch of these orgone devices. Some weeks after planting them around my home, I started to feel really unwell. So I removed them and then I felt better. Tried them again with the same results. So I decided to keep them away. Recently I was in contact with someone who has an ability of doing psychic reading. I was curious what she could read about these orgone devices I had. Even though I expected something, I was still shocked to hear how harmful they were to my well being. Of course that reading was personal just for me, and may be different for someone else. It is a mystery to me why many seem to tolerate orgone and apparently even benefit from it.