View Full Version : Who ever said people aren't waking up???
D-Day
1st July 2011, 13:48
Firstly, just to set the mood and put things into perspective let's take a look at this video...
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Now, here's just a small sample of videos to demonstrate the fact that there's a massive worldwide revolution currently taking place on this planet ... and something tells me we'll be seeing a lot more of this in coming months!
(all videos from 2011 - last 6 months)
London:
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Egypt:
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Libya:
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Syria:
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Tunisia:
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Greece:
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Spain:
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China:
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Saudi Arabia:
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Serbia:
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Albania:
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So, based on what we've seen here I think it's fair to say that the masses are awakening in larger numbers than ever before and they're understandably p!ssed off about what was happening while they were asleep!
I don't know about everyone else here but I'm blown away by the courage, bravery, determination and conviction that the people who are participating in these protests are displaying... it's about time the people of this planet started standing up to the corrupt, criminal and tyrannical governments/leaders who have controlled and exploited them for so long.
My guess is that during the remaining months of 2011 we'll see an even greater period of change as the number of awakened people on this planet increases and they begin to realise just how much power they truly hold, time will tell though...
Etherios
1st July 2011, 14:27
I am sorry but i disagree with you.
They are not waking up to the fact all these are planned. They are not waking to the fact that their government are not working for them but for the elites. They are not waking to the fact that we are all humans and we shouldnt fight against each other but against our slaver. They are not waking up to the fact that economy is fake and everything is planned. They are not waking up to the fact that we can have a paradise in this planet not in the after life. ETC ETC ETC ETC
What they are doing is react to oppression ... nothing more. The elites do 10 steps then back 5 then 10 again etc we are loosing steadily and surely. Let me give you an example... We heard this from one "EU official" (i think olin ren somehting) .
"Greece isnt applying austerity but a FIX of previous mistakes." So these new laws that give people less than 400-500 EU a month and makes them work till 70ish and have no health care or any other benefits (that we paid for the last 50 years) is a FIX. We never meant to rise from slavery so they are fixing the problem and returning us to slavery. The people in Greece are revolting against these cuts not against the system or the slavery. They didnt say anything till now cause it didnt effect them.
SO as i said they are not revolting but reacting to pressure. There is an awakening but too few too slow to effect anything. The above videos dont show it ... its just desperation from a "fake free public" that starts to loose its "fake freedom"
nickc2496
1st July 2011, 15:12
People are waking up on mass, its all relative to the individuals life cycle, for some just realizing the government is corrupt, is the first step, for others its may be the realization of parallel dimensions and e.t's - just remember what Einstein all about - relativity my friends, we are all at different stages in our progression, some are young souls who may have only lived a few times, others are ancient souls who have been around for thousands of lifetimes across multiple dimensions, it matters not whether its a giant leap or a baby step, as long as you are going in the right direction. There are many paths to 'waking up' :)
seantimberwolf
1st July 2011, 15:22
I believe that what d-day is trying to say is that people are taking the begging steps to enlightenment,
We know that as time moves foward, things are speeding up towards 2012 or whatever time line it may be.
It wont take long for people to become aware, but have you ever thought that maybe not everyone is meant to wake up?
I mean lets be honest, lets remove the E.T. influence and imagine for a second that we will be alone in this venture.
That the social elite run into there tunnels, and leave us to deal with solar flares, earthquakes, pole shifts, war, famine, social collapses etc.
We will have to return to the root of the problem to really stand a chance, we cant expect ourselves to wake up with all of this negative stimuli around us.
Facebook, Twitter, Fox news, MSG, the 9-5, The picket fence, The new car, we cant have all of that but social and spiritual enlightenment!
We need to attack the source!, and remove all of these things, return to nature, return to the mother earth and re-learn what we have lost.
society must collapse, government, the army all of it must go, ALL OF IT!
And if the truth is told, the entire population of the earth will not be able to live of the mother earth, it will become dead and dry in one generation.
The truth of the matter is, people may need to die, so the rest can live.
Its a harsh reality but its what may have to happen.
I believe that people need to find the balance of personnel enlightenment and natural and real skills, (think of the native american's before the white man arrived, they had the skills to survive, but also had great and deep spiritual understanding of nature and the true meaning of life)
Time will tell, but we need to take action for ourselves, and be more proactive in our survival, not just meditate all day, it has to be more hands on enlightenment, to become the keepers of the earth once more, and transcend the chains of society.
Darla Ken Pearce
1st July 2011, 15:44
D-Day I love how you put this thread together and agree that we are witnessing a most remarkable development ~ never seen before that effects every part of the globe! Not only will this trend continue but it will touch every country including ours and be successful!
Thanks for sharing the joy of some pissed off folks who will not allow the elites to continue ripping everyone off and it's about time! I especially love how you posted them one by one! What a great selection! It's very impressive! It a real positive thing to see happening and there can be no denying it is happening either. When you think about it ~ there are so few of them and so many of us.
Their schemes and shadows seem pretty hopeless now that we can see them in the clear light of a new day. Great thread! Much love! xoxoxox
I'm not sure whether these protests are examples of awakening or not. It may be that they were planned to happen by the PTB in order to roll out police state restrictions and a rationale for global governance. Having said that, even if these revolutions/protests are orchestrated, they still may be valuable--regardless of the intent of the people behind them--regardless of the motives of the provocateurs and saboteurs and secret police bogeymen placed within these movements with the intent of turning them all berserk, dark and ultimately useless. The fact remains there must be millions of people in the totality of these various movements who are there to stand for peace, sovereignty and an end to human degradation--and these people should not be counted out. Let's all send our energies to these people---to support them materially and spiritually, that they maintain a strict dedication to non violence, sovereignty and peace.
gabbahh
1st July 2011, 16:46
I am sorry but i disagree with you.
They are not waking up to the fact all these are planned. They are not waking to the fact that their government are not working for them but for the elites. They are not waking to the fact that we are all humans and we shouldnt fight against each other but against our slaver. They are not waking up to the fact that economy is fake and everything is planned. They are not waking up to the fact that we can have a paradise in this planet not in the after life. ETC ETC ETC ETC
What they are doing is react to oppression ... nothing more. The elites do 10 steps then back 5 then 10 again etc we are loosing steadily and surely. Let me give you an example... We heard this from one "EU official" (i think olin ren somehting) .
"Greece isnt applying austerity but a FIX of previous mistakes." So these new laws that give people less than 400-500 EU a month and makes them work till 70ish and have no health care or any other benefits (that we paid for the last 50 years) is a FIX. We never meant to rise from slavery so they are fixing the problem and returning us to slavery. The people in Greece are revolting against these cuts not against the system or the slavery. They didnt say anything till now cause it didnt effect them.
SO as i said they are not revolting but reacting to pressure. There is an awakening but too few too slow to effect anything. The above videos dont show it ... its just desperation from a "fake free public" that starts to loose its "fake freedom"
I fully agree. I also have a strong feeling that everything is going exactly as planned.
The financial crisis was manufactured, our reaction to the consequences is as expected.
00101
1st July 2011, 17:48
The great thing about 9-11 is that it woke allot of sleepers...mankind is showing so much awareness on hypnosis of the masses.
On the other side though, every generation tends to think they are in the last stage of humanlife and we shoul wake up.
I propose driftin' like a leaf on the wind, blind, in the good direction. purely on insight, foresight and instincts...Don't think for it will set you back on the branche...To do so one must first know to be able to not know..or else you just drift with the masses...
etc..
One Love, nearly 7.000.000.000 hearts...wow~!
Warlock
2nd July 2011, 04:05
The people will either be pacified with the same old lies, or they will be crushed.
Warlock
astrid
2nd July 2011, 04:28
Im starting to get annoyed by some of the so called "awake", that continue to say that things are not going to happen , etc.
Sure, agreed there are forces working hard to keep us enslaved,
and the research is all there to prove it.
But there are also forces working hard to set us free,
including a growing army of lightwarriors...
Things are changing SO fast on many different levels,
recognize and accept positive movement.!!
Focus on what you do want and not what u don't want...
In shamanic terms, its time to dream a new dream.
How about it?
D-Day
2nd July 2011, 05:07
The people will either be pacified with the same old lies, or they will be crushed.
Warlock
Well Warlock, in response to your comments I'll simply say this...
I'm really glad each of us has the ability to create our own reality because I sure as hell wouldn't want to exist inside the limiting one you seem to have created for yourself!
Seriously, why even bother to continue our existence if we're simply destined to be oppressed for all eternity with no hope of changing our circumstances for the better??
IMO, your comments represent a perfect example of what the PTB/Elites (or whatever you wanna call them) want people to think... basically that we are totally powerless and completely under their control!
It's time for everyone to wake up and realise that it is US (the common majority) who truly hold the power... all we need is for more people on this planet to realise that and to start taking the necessary steps to begin using that power to change our unfortunate situation!
trivesten
2nd July 2011, 06:18
And what are these necessary steps if you would care to elaborate please // << interested
Warlock
2nd July 2011, 06:39
The people will either be pacified with the same old lies, or they will be crushed.
Warlock
Well Warlock, in response to your comments I'll simply say this...
I'm really glad each of us has the ability to create our own reality because I sure as hell wouldn't want to exist inside the limiting one you seem to have created for yourself!
Seriously, why even bother to continue our existence if we're simply destined to be oppressed for all eternity with no hope of changing our circumstances for the better??
IMO, your comments represent a perfect example of what the PTB/Elites (or whatever you wanna call them) want people to think... basically that we are totally powerless and completely under their control!
It's time for everyone to wake up and realise that it is US (the common majority) who truly hold the power... all we need is for more people on this planet to realise that and to start taking the necessary steps to begin using that power to change our unfortunate situation!
TPTB will accomplish these four major objectives, in spite of what anyone, including you, think.
1. One World Government.
2. One World Currency.
3. One World Religion.
4. A micro-chipped population.
That, my friend, if you live long enough, is what you will wake up to one day.
Warlock
Davidallany
2nd July 2011, 07:13
If one thinks and sees that things will happen, then they will, please remember that we are existing in an energy powered continuum. If one wants anything to happen one must see it happen first. Keeping thought alive would suffice at first but one must persevere to feel, see those thoughts, and continue this fantastic journey, there is much more to discover. Therefore it all starts with one's self. Incompatible energies will most likely not interact with each other for more than a very short time. I'm writing this for the benefit of all. If anyone wishes further materials here are videos.
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We can see this through together.
Davidallany
2nd July 2011, 07:55
This an exact example of what I tried to convey in the post above.
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May your good thoughts for you, all living beings, earth and the universe come true.
Cidersomerset
2nd July 2011, 08:42
Thanks D-Day ...I've just wrote a list on Shadowstalkers Fema camps thread, why the US is turning into the 4th Riech which was depressing when I read it & I wrote it......LOL
I said at the end we can get our World back.........Wonderfull Synchrinicity brought me here as soon as I had posted.........
Of course we can win....Human beings always will.......Destroy Tyrrany however many time we are confronted with it.....
I feel we are on the cusp of a' VERY BIG' change in conciousness/vibration/awareness what ever you want to call it.......Cheers Steve
Corncrake
2nd July 2011, 10:38
I have been following the 'Arab Spring' with interest and some trepidation. FWIW I don't know if they have 'woken up' spiritually or have become aware of the secret government. I suspect they have just had enough of their corrupt politicians, poverty and the endless grind of trying to make a living. I have always thought that we will see real uprisings when parents can no longer afford to feed their children. Trouble is when you get to that state you become very vulnerable to all sorts of influences - good and bad. Violent demonstrations can soon be suppressed with more violence (often presented as deserved violence that is you have brought it upon yourselves) unless, as in the case of Libya, you have outside agencies lending a hand and we have yet to see where that is going to go. The media heavily contributes to the message that is sent out to the rest of the world. I was watching the demonstrations in Greece a couple of days ago and spoke to a friend in Athens who said the media typically were concentrating on all the violence and that there were in fact many peaceful demonstrations going on. Sadly, I have no answers.
seantimberwolf
2nd July 2011, 10:43
Whats the point of carrying on if it is all fruitless,
I mean serious, we may as well roll over now, anyone who even contemplates excepting TPTB plans should not be on hear,
should forget alternative media, and most importantly should stop being part of the movement and discussion.
Be who you want, when you want and where you want, !
Catherine Austin Fitts (who I have great respect for) was on C2C radio Thursday night and said something interesting. We all know how powerful the corporations are getting. She suggests that the new "model" for the way the world is run is actually shifting the power *away* from governments and into corporations to such a degree the private sector will control the power (no longer governments).
So ... just what is a corporation???
Little more than a front for the elite (via numerous ways to hide their identity with financial smoke n mirrors).
In essense then we have a new breed of stealth monarchy (my words not hers).
Making a studio appearance in the first hour, financial consultant Catherine Austin Fitts shared updates about the economy. Certain parts of the commercial sector are doing well, like some of the technology companies in Silicon Valley, and people marketing their own products on the Internet, she noted. But the situation in Greece demonstrates how government is being re-engineered to be dictated to by creditors, she continued, adding that "it's all part of this process of moving places run by government to places increasingly run by corporations and private investors."
http://www.coasttocoastam.com/show/2011/06/30
Having said that ... I believe there is far more "social engineering" going on with the above mentioned "hot spots" than awakening. Fitts goes into the mideast situation suggesting that the unrest is based on the west blocking access to China gaining the oil in the region directly (and indirectly by cutting of shipping routes). New model for (major) warfare is economic.
Amity
2nd July 2011, 12:56
The first video in this thread just made me cry at the end and when my fiancé asked what was wrong I didn't know. Then all of a sudden I knew it was not because I was sad, It was because I realised how much I love this planet and every living thing on it!
Its Strange how emotions just jump out of us and sometimes we don't even know why lol
That's apart of being human and that's what makes it so beautiful.
Steven
2nd July 2011, 13:02
There is something new to this "revolution". First, it is worldwide. Second, it is not about religion, resources, lands or else. It is about control. And its first energetic impulse is Ethic.
It doesn't come from the leaders. It comes from the people. It is not gathered around an idea, but from the heart (ethic). It might not be perfectly done. It might be manipulated. But it will not be stopped, because change are already done at the subconscious level.
We could only see the manipulation behind the scene and let bitterness takes over. But we have to see what is happening in the consciousness of the people, there is something new in the human being that will make it much more difficult to be controlled and fooled in the future. And I believe we have seen nothing yet :)
Dont let bitterness blind your third eye and see it from the heart! We are changing!
Namaste, Steven
Steven
2nd July 2011, 15:48
A young man, all boost up with "ideas" of Revolution, was showing great courage in his fight for Freedom. Until a day he meets an old woman; "You show great strength against tyranny. You stand your ground all days and nights." said the old woman. "We have no choice, but to be vigilant and determined to our goal, until the day of victory." Answered the young man. "But what is it that you want exactly?" asked the old woman. "Freedom" was his answer. "So, how is Freedom then, how do you imagine it, conceive it, perceive it?" "It's a world without tyranny!" answered the young man. "Ah! please, define it by what it is, not by what it is not." said the old woman.
For a moment, the young man went a little deeper in his dreams and visions of Freedom. While doing it, the old woman asked him; "Do you stay focused on this vision while battling against tyranny?" ... "Well, to be honest, I could do more, I am so busy fighting oppression. Knowing the enemy, strategy and tactics are the compounds of the greatest part of my life." "Wise words", answered the old woman; "The greatest responsibility we have is to give purpose to this reality. The reality has the purpose that we give. If your purpose is for Freedom, live free and hold this vision for All that IS, never loosing sight of your inner vision and dreams, build it, flourish it, nourish it with the same determination that you show against tyranny. Your inner dream will manifest only if you hold it firmly in your heart and soul. If you do not, you might even succeed in "winning" against tyranny, but afterward, your vision not having flourished and shared, reality with be shaped again within the same paradigm, and your son might end up fighting against tyranny too."
Namaste, Steven
MoSh187
2nd July 2011, 19:53
In response to the first video.
The world is much more complex than a choice between love and fear. What about balance? I like how this video says that humans are the cause of the massive extinctions... wait a second. I thought Sun cycles had something to do with it also? If people really believe that /humanity is the prime fault... is that going to lead to a bunch of people supporting mass genocide of humans?
what about rising up in balance and discernment.
and near the need it shows people bowing down to allah. and happy Egyptian protest... What video left out is the various accounts of white women, and a reporter who was brutally raped and beaten during the protests. also the bowing scene seems to suggest that the loving solution is going to be about worshiping a new age god??? I don't get it.
Foggy
3rd July 2011, 05:03
Calz_Avaretard
I agree wholeheartedly what you wrote about Catherine Austin Fitts. She is the most brilliant and trustworthy business woman. I admire her courage and fortitude surviving the political "hack job" done to her in Washington many years ago. She had to sell everything to pay the lawyers and because of her spiritual grounding, honesty and integrity; rose like the phoenix from the ashes. What you wrote is spot on about shipping routes. That's what Clinton's war in the Balkans was all about years ago, and one of the reasons we're in Afghanistan is to control the pipeline to the Caspian Sea.
The link for coast to coast has Linda Moulton Howe on 6/30. Even if it played, I'm not a coast to coast member. Thanks for the thought.
I love your last tag line.....Don't forget to take the time each day to smile. I do it intentionally throughout the day and night and it's amazing how it lifts my spirit. I do it for me alone. It's a good practice to get into and thanks for the reminder.;)
Daft Ada
3rd July 2011, 11:02
Well I am not as eloquent or spiritual as some of you, I am thoroughly grounded and see things through the eyes of nearly sixty years of listening to the same old lies and watching the manipulation of the masses and the outcome is always the same. They think they have achieved change for the better but they haven't. For example, in England we have three main political parties, so the people think they have choice, in my lifetime I have lived through rule of all three several times, but nothing changes and never will, because the three parties are there to make the sheeple think they have choice, but they are not the true controllers who actually run the country, so no matter who you vote for, you are still being ruled by the same elite. Yet every election the people fall for the same old lies and deceit and it goes round and round add infinitum.
Take the African situation for example, all my life I have seen starving African children on the TV, every day on this TV in front of me I see five or six begging adverts for the starving people in Africa, and always timed to be just as I am about to eat.
Are you telling me that after 60 years they still haven't managed to solve that problem, we can walk men on the Moon, but we can't solve that problem? the children starve in Africa and other places because that's how the elite want it to be and because it is of some advantage to them and we are too stupid to see that and do something about it. Why don't people see and ask questions, how many charities are in operation and collecting money and other donated items for these causes, how much money and material items have been collected in the 60 years of my life? and it's made no difference? and still the African children are starving, how many tractors and bags of seed could be bought with 60 years of donations from the world so they could feed themselves?
No, there are other forces at play and that's just one example, these things are maintained to keep our minds off other situations and are all part of the control.
All the people who are actually dying for their beliefs in the unrest in these countries are dying for nothing, if eventually they appear to have achieved what they wanted, in reality they will find that the new rulers are no different to what they had and they are still being lied to and deceived in different ways, but it will take time for them to realise that, and so it goes around and round.
The people of this world think slavery has been abolished and can't see that in fact we are all slaves, we have been manipulated and controlled so that our lives are spent working for the elite for a few tid bits that they throw us, and when it appears we are getting too comfortable they invent financial screw ups to take everything away and smack us all down again and we are all to stupid to see it. What financial crisis? Money just doesn't vanish, the governments make it and control it and move it around, someone has got it all, and they just make sure it isn't us, because if the sheeple become too wealthy, they wouldn't be able to control them.
Stop and think about your life, you don't own your house even if the Mortgage is paid off, every month you have to give vast amounts of money to someone because your house is standing on the ground you own and that ground is in a particular place. Rates they call it in England, stop paying the Rates and see how long you manage to keep your house and they will continue to take that money, which increases every year by the way, well for ever. I pay more in Rates to the government for the privilege of owning my own house than I used to pay in rent before I owned one !!
If you decided that it's your life and you just didn't want to work every day, after a few short days, brown envelopes would start piling up on the mat demanding money for one thing or another, you ignore them and just live your life and be free, very soon they will be banging on your door and eventually you will be arrested and taken to court and everything you have will be taken from you and given to others, you may serve time in prison and you will end up homeless and living on the street, all just because you wanted to be free and live your life and do nothing in the house you own.
Can you see how we are controlled by the system, from birth to death we are enslaved by the system and work for the system, and we are too stupid to see that we are in fact no better off than the people in the videos above, only in our countries it is done more cleverly and deviously by the well educated elite and secret societies, they manipulate our opinions with the media and control our very thoughts by just showing us what they want us to see. No different to the governments of some of those countries either by threat or payment forcing people to kiss the presidents photo on camera in front of the world to present a false picture of how the people feel about him, we are all only shown what they want us to see and know and in reality we are not much better off than those people, just that we are controlled and manipulated in more clever and devious ways.
Davidallany
3rd July 2011, 11:10
On waking, contemplation and ascension by mooji.
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Cross posting from another thread of similar topic.
Something to consider on the topic of "awakening" and/or "mind control".
From the Pete Peterson Camelot interview. Pete suggests there is 15% of the global population with ET DNA that is resistant to mind control.
I have suggested in a couple other threads that PERHAPS those that are not yet "awakening" may not have the ability to due to the various mind control going on.
Seems like walking around in the matrix (from the movie).
I checked to see why I couldn’t get the final 15 percent of the diagnostic readings correct and finally came to the conclusion that it was because these people had DNA that had come from off planet. That led me to think: Well, if that’s the case, there must be some kind of historical record.
And when I went back and looked at the historical record, I found out that there are numerous records and archaeological evidence that we were visited by people from off planet – very probably, in my opinion, not only off planet but extraterrestrial or extra-Solar-System-type of visitors.
You know, there’s so many different people that claim having seen such things, that they existed, seen such peoples. There are several broad categories of such aliens. A few, a small percentage of those, could be attributed to anything from paranoia to just tall tales or whatever, but when you have as many as there are, all the way down through all of recorded history, it leads one to believe that it probably was very, very true that such things existed.
As an example, anyone who wants to find something from the past, read Ezekiel in the Bible.
BR: In the course of your work, have you encountered any documentation about the existence of our relationship with creatures like that?
PP: I have. Most of them I can’t talk about.
BR: Sure.
PP: But yes, I’ve seen things written by scientists that I have very high respect for. Some were teachers of mine. Some were people that I work with scientifically in other fields, and there were casual conversations about such things. That’s why I have the beliefs that I have, that we have extraterrestrial DNA in our bodies... some of us do.
It’s rather interesting to note that there’s been a lot of supposition about various programs to reprogram people’s minds, to throw their thinking off, to cause them to believe things that aren’t necessarily true, but politically would be a very good thing for those in politics and in government and in religion. It’s interesting to note that mind control techniques work on 85 percent of the people, and the 15 percent that they don’t work well on are people that have that particular DNA string.
BR: Ah-ha. Okay.
PP: So, just another verification that those people are very different from the average person.
DW: Pete, I’m sure we’re going to have tons of people wanting to know, of this 15 percent DNA category, is it all one type of person, like one race? Or are they distributed throughout the population? And if you can’t tell us, you can’t tell us.
PP: No, they obviously run in family trees, along family tree lines or family lines, but they’re pretty well distributed throughout all different cultures and races.
dourpil
5th July 2011, 09:25
I also cried at the end of the first video. I actually think people are waking up. Maybe not as fast as we'd like, and maybe not as deep either. But I wouldn't dare consider myself 'awakened' at all. But waking up is simply realizing a little something you didn't realize before. No need to be aware of all the atrocities and the lies that are going on.
Poly Hedra
5th July 2011, 11:05
I remember when the US was going into Iraq the 2nd time around, everybody protested in Ireland. I felt so disheartened when it was reported on the news because they grossly underestimated the numbers that turned out to protest. From that time on I decided that protesting would never work again like it did in the 60's movement. Now with all the protests going on in the middle east it makes me wonder why the media actually reported them. It really makes me wonder. Is it because it was to somebodies benifit to report them and make a big deal out of them for the west to see? I dont have answers, just questions unfortunately.
Another point I would like to make is about the whole idea of resistance. I came across the ideas of oppposites, force, push and pull, action reaction and this statement which we all know RESISTANCE IS FUTILE
Now I'm not understanding this statement in its literal sense anymore. (cant remember where I read this idea) But.. what if the real meaning of this is not that there is not point in resisting tyranny etc but that when you resist you get the opposite reaction which is that whatever you are resisting you will inevitably make stronger?
Its like that other story about the old woman and the young man. That when you are resisting something, you are focusing on it.
It makes me wonder if we are just going around and around in circles forever until we figure out a way to exclude the PTB from our every day lives and take back our power to grow our own food, create small communities.
Ah so complicated.
I hope I explained it ok, I'm finding it hard to get it into words.
Anchor
5th July 2011, 13:02
Im starting to get annoyed by some of the so called "awake", that continue to say that things are not going to happen , etc.
A lot of people, ironically, even those awakening, are comfortable with how things are and are frightened by the idea that it will all change soon - and it will change.
I think the tipping point passed a while back, this is running downhill now and picking up speed.
Fred Steeves
5th July 2011, 14:10
It's easy to forget the term "awakening" is relative. I would venture to say none of us is fully awakened.
Cheers,
Fred
aranuk
5th July 2011, 14:17
The people will either be pacified with the same old lies, or they will be crushed.
Warlock
Whose side are you on Warlock? Simple question.
Stan
Draco
5th July 2011, 15:14
people are waking up but it's the next steps that will shape this world, as we grow with awareness you must re sure yourself that you will stick with your beliefs and hold true to the main reasons for awaking or breaking free of the wheel., its quite easy to be lost and aware of your surrounding at the same time. These is a lot of recruiting going on at these times as people become aware and informed they can be lead down a path of light or dark it all there in layers ready for u to explore. Ask your self what outcome could you be comfortable with , then move forward. The power elites like slow progress with people that are starting to awake, chasing our tales bogged down in misinformation. Once we realize that we hold the key to many doors it become a lot easy to be fully awakening. Forums like these are excellent think tanks :)
gabbahh
5th July 2011, 18:02
The people will either be pacified with the same old lies, or they will be crushed.
Warlock
Whose side are you on Warlock? Simple question.
Stan
?????
Maybe he is just saying this because of what has happened in the past? There have been a lot of revolutions over the last 5000 years. We all hope that this time things will be different, but for most of the world it is hard to imagine a different world. Just look at the USA, about 200 years ago there was this revolt against tyranny, the king of England and his evil ilk.
Fast forward 200 years, and the USA is the tyranny.
And speaking of sides? Do not look for a division where there needs not be one, we need room for discusion. These sides do not exist btw, only in our minds.
I "believe" that the current economic/financial crisis is created. It follows roughly the same pattern as the depression of the 30's. Which was also a manufactured crisis.
The reaction of the peoples to this crisis is also very predictable. The controllers have created our schooling system, the MSM and have been studying our behaviour for centuries. Therefore when I look at the protest I see the people doing the same thing they did before. Protest and strike and ask/demand the controllers for truth and change.
And yes, I believe a lot of us are starting to see the lies, however most of us (read: the people of the world) are reacting in a pre programmed way. Instead of reacting to the controllers we need to act without the controllers. They only have power because we give it to them.
Lochinvar
5th July 2011, 18:53
?????
Maybe he is just saying this because of what has happened in the past? There have been a lot of revolutions over the last 5000 years. We all hope that this time things will be different, but for most of the world it is hard to imagine a different world. Just look at the USA, about 200 years ago there was this revolt against tyranny, the king of England and his evil ilk.
Fast forward 200 years, and the USA is the tyranny.
And speaking of sides? Do not look for a division where there needs not be one, we need room for discusion. These sides do not exist btw, only in our minds.
How can there be tyranny and revolt if there are no sides?
gabbahh
5th July 2011, 18:57
Fast forward 200 years, and the USA is the tyranny.
And speaking of sides? Do not look for a division where there needs not be one, we need room for discusion. These sides do not exist btw, only in our minds.
How can there be tyranny and revolt if there are no sides?
You got it! The moment we stop picking sides, fall for the left side - right side trick, the tyranny will end. The division allows the few to control the many.
Asking on this forum "Which side are you on" creates a division. One which we do not need. It creates conflict instead of debate. It is also very clearly an ad hominem.
Lochinvar
5th July 2011, 20:24
Fast forward 200 years, and the USA is the tyranny.
And speaking of sides? Do not look for a division where there needs not be one, we need room for discusion. These sides do not exist btw, only in our minds.
How can there be tyranny and revolt if there are no sides?
You got it! The moment we stop picking sides, fall for the left side - right side trick, the tyranny will end. The division allows the few to control the many.
Asking on this forum "Which side are you on" creates a division. One which we do not need. It creates conflict instead of debate. It is also very clearly an ad hominem.
Ah, I get you now. So on one side we have the few and on the other side there are the many and Aranuk may well be suggesting that Warlock is on the side of the few which is what his statement suggests to me (the sort of tactics I would expect from the few (who are surely among us)).
gabbahh
5th July 2011, 20:42
Ah, I get you now. So on one side we have the few and on the other side there are the many and Aranuk may well be suggesting that Warlock is on the side of the few which is what his statement suggests to me (the sort of tactics I would expect from the few (who are surely among us)).I think Warlock presents a valid viewpoint. And if he represents the other side, why dont we attack his viewpoint instead of his person? Kill the idea, not the messenger. Why care what the background of a person is,when we are holding a discussion? Expose them, find the truth.
And about sides, we are all on the same side. There are some of us, who control a lot of us. We let them/us control us and give them power. If for example: We the people would take our money out of the banks, stop working for corporations, demand payment for our labour in cash, stop voting for crooked thieves, stop paying taxes, stop living by unlawfull rules and regulations.... The shytsem would collapse. Immediately.
No need to demonstrate against powerless naked puppets.
Lochinvar
5th July 2011, 20:57
Ah, I get you now. So on one side we have the few and on the other side there are the many and Aranuk may well be suggesting that Warlock is on the side of the few which is what his statement suggests to me (the sort of tactics I would expect from the few (who are surely among us)).I think Warlock presents a valid viewpoint. And if he represents the other side, why dont we attack his viewpoint instead of his person? Kill the idea, not the messenger. Why care what the background of a person is,when we are holding a discussion? Expose them, find the truth.
And about sides, we are all on the same side. There are some of us, who control a lot of us. We let them/us control us and give them power. If for example: We the people would take our money out of the banks, stop working for corporations, demand payment for our labour in cash, stop voting for crooked thieves, stop paying taxes, stop living by unlawfull rules and regulations.... The shytsem would collapse. Immediately.
No need to demonstrate against powerless naked puppets.
So is there one side or more than one side?
gabbahh
5th July 2011, 21:01
Ah, I get you now. So on one side we have the few and on the other side there are the many and Aranuk may well be suggesting that Warlock is on the side of the few which is what his statement suggests to me (the sort of tactics I would expect from the few (who are surely among us)).I think Warlock presents a valid viewpoint. And if he represents the other side, why dont we attack his viewpoint instead of his person? Kill the idea, not the messenger. Why care what the background of a person is,when we are holding a discussion? Expose them, find the truth.
And about sides, we are all on the same side. There are some of us, who control a lot of us. We let them/us control us and give them power. If for example: We the people would take our money out of the banks, stop working for corporations, demand payment for our labour in cash, stop voting for crooked thieves, stop paying taxes, stop living by unlawfull rules and regulations.... The shytsem would collapse. Immediately.
No need to demonstrate against powerless naked puppets.
So is there one side or more than one side?
Only in your head baby
Steven
5th July 2011, 22:32
...I think Warlock presents a valid viewpoint. And if he represents the other side, why dont we attack his viewpoint instead of his person? Kill the idea, not the messenger...
Exactly, don't even need to kill the idea, but simply present yours as alternate perspective. I understand the point-of-view who says; "we've been in the mess for so long, and many signs show that it is worsening. What do we do about that?" And I do see it too.
On the other hand, I see many signs of hopes, and they tend to come from the base, the people. I see people changing getting more aware of the game. 20 years ago, when I was asking people about alien life, ET visitation, abduction, ancient civilization, etc... people were massively skeptical and most of the time with some laughing. Today, Ah! what a difference. The laughing has been replaced with concerns and the skeptics are in minority. It looks like a great step has been done, people are realizing that their might be some truth in this incredible story. But with disillusion comes fear, especially of the unknown. That will be the second step. I think some panic will come up, so stay sharp and focused, all of the time. The last and final step "might be" to overcome the fear by knowing our true origin, thus unlocking a tremendous power when united. This is what I see coming. That is why I am very hopeful for the future. Of course, I might be wrong.
Namaste, Steven
Warlock
5th July 2011, 22:41
The people will either be pacified with the same old lies, or they will be crushed.
Warlock
Whose side are you on Warlock? Simple question.
Stan
Looking back in history, what is it about my statement that you do not understand.
While you are at it, tell me whose side YOU are on.
Warlock
Camilo
5th July 2011, 22:43
There is absolutly no doubt people are waking up all over the world, and we should encourage them not to react, but to feel love in their hearts, to believe in themselves, to remember we came here to change this paradigme not with what is available here, but with what we have brought with us in our souls, to manifest something "new and different"
Lochinvar
5th July 2011, 22:52
There is absolutly no doubt people are waking up all over the world, and we should encourage them not to react, but to feel love in their hearts, to believe in themselves, to remember we came here to change this paradigme not with what is available here, but with what we have brought with us in our souls, to manifest something "new and different"
and you think that sitting on a hillside smoking marry-ann and waiting for UFO's will change things?
DouglasDanger
6th July 2011, 01:19
The people will either be pacified with the same old lies, or they will be crushed.
Warlock
TPTB will accomplish these four major objectives, in spite of what anyone, including you, think.
1. One World Government.
2. One World Currency.
3. One World Religion.
4. A micro-chipped population.
That, my friend, if you live long enough, is what you will wake up to one day.
Warlock
Disagree with you on the last two points...but I understand how you feel, you are surounded by walking Zombies daily, it eats at you, starts lowering your vibration, makes you realise things aren't as alot of folks here assume when talking about awake and awareness.. I am Prity much the only awake person in my family friends, Co-workers, I cannot reach them without rope, a chair and deprograming techniques, free will prevents me from performing this action on them, they choose to remain asleep....
1) We have had a massive awakening.. but only about 1-2% of thepopulation in all the countries on the planet.( this varies country to country some countries are still completely asleep, some more awake than others) it's not enough to stop the plan. We need at least 10-15 %.... so A one world government plan is still steaming under full power..
I am not completly against a one world law/government, just not an all powerfull one world ruler government controled by the corrupt Elite who consider themselves above all laws.
2) The goal is a one world fiat curency to continually make the elite richer for thier future generations, its still steaming under full power but the machine is grinding gears it can still be stopped in its tracks...
3)there will never be a one world religion, considering most religions are under the elites control right now, they need multiple relgions to continue with religious differences and biasness for future conflict.....
4) microchips are far outdated...why tag your herd spending unneeded expenses when you can Identify by heat source from space and facial recognition.... how is human traficing supposed to happen if you can track a person from country to country via embeded chip.., bodies are easier identified, harder to move because of chip tracking and found easier, you can dechip and rechip, reprogram chips/make fraudulently just as credit and bank cards are done now, you can easily turn off some ones credit right now as you could if they where chipped.. It was always a bad idea tossed in there to create confusion IMHO , technology can be tampered with for good or bad reasons the elite know this, and no technology is safe from reverse engineering to suit whom wants to tamper with it...
Edit to fix quotes..
Warlock
6th July 2011, 02:37
The people will either be pacified with the same old lies, or they will be crushed.
Warlock
TPTB will accomplish these four major objectives, in spite of what anyone, including you, think.
1. One World Government.
2. One World Currency.
3. One World Religion.
4. A micro-chipped population.
That, my friend, if you live long enough, is what you will wake up to one day.
Warlock
Disagree with you on the last two points...but I understand how you feel, you are surounded by walking Zombies daily, it eats at you, starts lowering your vibration, makes you realise things aren't as alot of folks here assume when talking about awake and awareness.. I am Prity much the only awake person in my family friends, Co-workers, I cannot reach them without rope, a chair and deprograming techniques, free will prevents me from performing this action on them, they choose to remain asleep....
1) We have had a massive awakening.. but only about 1-2% of thepopulation in all the countries on the planet.( this varies country to country some countries are still completely asleep, some more awake than others) it's not enough to stop the plan. We need at least 10-15 %.... so A one world government plan is still steaming under full power..
I am not completly against a one world law/government, just not an all powerfull one world ruler government controled by the corrupt Elite who consider themselves above all laws.
2) The goal is a one world fiat curency to continually make the elite richer for thier future generations, its still steaming under full power but the machine is grinding gears it can still be stopped in its tracks...
3)there will never be a one world religion, considering most religions are under the elites control right now, they need multiple relgions to continue with religious differences and biasness for future conflict.....
4) microchips are far outdated...why tag your herd spending unneeded expenses when you can Identify by heat source from space and facial recognition.... how is human traficing supposed to happen if you can track a person from country to country via embeded chip.., bodies are easier identified, harder to move because of chip tracking and found easier, you can dechip and rechip, reprogram chips/make fraudulently just as credit and bank cards are done now, you can easily turn off some ones credit right now as you could if they where chipped.. It was always a bad idea tossed in there to create confusion IMHO , technology can be tampered with for good or bad reasons the elite know this, and no technology is safe from reverse engineering to suit whom wants to tamper with it...
Edit to fix quotes..
DD
You disagree with two of my points, fair enough.
Now, people are waking up to the fact that austerity is being forced on them, and that is what they do not like. They were perfectly content with the corruption as long as they got something out of it. Am I correct, or am I wrong?
Warlock
Poly Hedra
6th July 2011, 19:41
I am certain people are waking up. Slowly but surely.
If people are waking up because of austerity being forced on them, DOES IT ACTUALLY MATTER HOW THEY WAKE UP?
It gets me thinking of the enlightenment period of the 1700's. When so much new information and new ideas had everyone so full of hope. I bet those people thought that we would have finally reached utopia by now, 250 years later.
What will it be like in 250 years from now? All we have is hope.
gabbahh
6th July 2011, 19:52
If people are waking up because of austerity being forced on them, DOES IT ACTUALLY MATTER HOW THEY WAKE UP?
Or are TBTB pushing pre-programmed buttons so that we react in pre-programmed fashion? And are we really waking up, or are we being told a new lie, so that we will be lulled into sleep? One world religion, Lucis Trust etc?
After a nice culling of course.
Camilo
28th July 2011, 18:08
There is absolutly no doubt people are waking up all over the world, and we should encourage them not to react, but to feel love in their hearts, to believe in themselves, to remember we came here to change this paradigme not with what is available here, but with what we have brought with us in our souls, to manifest something "new and different"
and you think that sitting on a hillside smoking marry-ann and waiting for UFO's will change things?
.....hey, who's to know, they mat come and join us...
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