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firehorse10
17th March 2010, 08:15
~As a 'lone' parent I sometimes struggle with getting the balance right on how much info/knowledge I introduce to my child about the potential 'changes' to life as we know it....
Obviously, i dont wish to scare her...and am VERY cautious when bringing up/responding to issues related to our forum here....

#Although she is a bright sensitive child who has a total belief in multiple dimensions, aliens, reincarnation, 'spiritworld' (our name for the afterlife plane)
she is at present still quite emersed in her innocence to the projection of the 'matrix' reality most of us are living in....

so I contantly swing with the notion of how much do I tell her?? do I just ''let her be, and enjoy whats left of 'normality'' as she knows it?? ....and/or.... prepare her mentally and spiritually as much as I can??

#Most of her friends are from families who are 'sleeping' and 'blind to our reality' ...if I let her know too much, she is likely to discuss with friends and then risk being rejected / excluded as a 'weird kid' by those families ...

She is aware that 'mum is busy with research regarding changes in our planet' and I have prepared her for the possiblilty of having to get rid of most our possessions at some point and for us to be going on a 'travelling adventure'together, and she seemed to be cool with that idea!
We also talked about the possibility of 'time travel' becoming a reality for us all in her lifetime....and she jumped into my arms with joy and tears in her eyes !! ( is this a sign she is ready?)

So, i guess its a case of mental/spiritual preperation -Vs- ignorance and innocence.... ???

As a parent to a child I adore and love, I obviously want to do the 'right thing'
I am aware that the 'timelines' are ever changeable and what could potentially happen might not materialise....so how much preperation does a parent give their child at this time of confusion and unpredictability???

I would appreciate other parents views and some insight to how they are choosing to deal with this... beacuse I am REALLY CONFUSED!

many thanks!
live laugh love learn

firehorse Kate

frank samuel
17th March 2010, 10:58
As a full time parent of 5 children ages 1 through 15 I just say don't rush it , gather your thoughts remember our children will change the future of this world as we know it. With that in mind help them to grow and have fun, give them lots of hugs , kisses and you'll see that they will begin to see things through your eyes and heart just by your deeds.Help them to tap into the reservoir of unlimited potential.
My mother was a working mom that could not take care of me, mainly she just pray for me to be wise and be protected. As a young man I could hear my mother's prayers even if she was thousands of miles away. Her heart drew me back to her bosom. I never imagine myself living in Puerto Rico because I did not speak Spanish yet for the last 17 years of my life I have made this beautiful island my home, home as they say is where your heart is and mines is right next to my mom.:wave::thumb::wub::wub:

ArtyCarl
17th March 2010, 12:13
I have twin sons of 19 studying at University and for the past few years I have drip-fed them information as and when I thought they were ready for it. Some of the information is hard even for us adults to accept so as they were growing I would suggest the possibilities of alternative views as something to be aware of and to consider alongside accepted ideas. I was pleasantly surprised how open to 'alternative' ideas they were and I think you might find the same. Things seem to be a bit easier now with UFO stories in our press regularly and many films depicting a vast range of the weird and wonderful from alien contact to 2012. You can argue that they are equally misleading but if they promote a healthy interest then the job is half done.

Burke
17th March 2010, 12:53
yeah this is tricky as you don't want to harm your child in any way, and it is a double edge sword because it can seem that you can harm them by "telling them" or "not telling them" controversial info that could bleed into other peoples lives other than your families via friendships and family.

my advice is if they are very young...just use the "wouldn't it be neato if we could do this or that - or if this were real" just to keep their minds open to the possibilities without making claims they can pass on to others - in other words if it may backfire on you or them, then keep it only in the realm of possibilities - always leave yourself an out that you can use in case someone outside is alerted and alarmed by anything they say you told them. For instance....Johnny's mom calls you and says your child is saying we will be able to read minds some day. You reply ... oh we were just watching that show "Heroes" on TV and I made a comment he took a real shine too i guess...I will talk to my child and straighten things out, thanks for your concern and being a good neighbor.

if they are already immersed in the matrix and have to deal with the world in general through school etc then I would treat this stuff like I do religion. Make no claims as to what the truth and consequences are (do we really know for sure yet anyway?) but keep them informed enough to make their own decisions. Maybe even let them research stuff on their own if they are interested. if they are not interested...then no power on earth that I know of will make any difference here. if you make wild claims that they find bizarre and controversial, you may find yourself losing their respect as an authority figure through influences which are also authority figures outside the home. The older they are the bigger the can of worms you could unleash becomes IMHO.

I think there is no clear answer here to be honest as every home and family is different with different interpersonal relationships, occupational dynamics and therefore everything is really on a case by case basis here.

my two cents

Celine
17th March 2010, 13:07
Yes a very hard question...but an important one.

the best rule of thumb imo is "answer what they ask"

Honesty and openness has worked very well with my children as they are all awake and aware, though they are older now (18-19-21) this process started about 5 years ago.

Their generations seems very aware of what this world offers as "truth". Their are few inhibitions left and it seems this allows them to keep a sane perspective while living with the awareness of big brother in their lives.

Makes me very hopeful for the future

firehorse10
17th March 2010, 14:13
thanks for the replies so far peeps!!

thanks for feedback!
yes, I am very cautious and careful in communiction... but at the same time try and be open and forward thinking with subjects I introduce to her...
My daughter is now 13- she knows/senses we are a bit 'different' from other families..because of things she has asked me... she is an 'out there' kinda kid...in her imagination and ideas...so she readily takes on board certain concepts her peers might not have thought about....but she is also a regular child emersed in the material trappings..goes to regular school ( against my better judgement-am seriously close to taking her out and home-schooling)
her daily life revolves around activities/ friends/music/tv/films on top of the stuff we do together....so as my awareness grows in the reality of our existence...I become more aware of my responsibility to teach my child..however, i dont want her becoming 'screwed up'. I am sure u know what i mean!! lol...

I have been open about ET reality as well as other inter-dimensional creatures, and introduced these concepts when she was about 7 while reading 'fantasy' stories ( dragons, fairies etc) She is a very imaginative soul with an open mind- and fully accepts it is reasonable that ET is around on other planets if we exist on this planet/plane ... now my daughter is older, I am finding it tricky to keep that balance- especially with the myriad of info coming our way with some of the possible timelines...I want her to be mentally prepared for when disclosure time comes.. so at least she has a head start and can keep grounded.... but, on the other hand I want her to still have the dreams that life will continue as she know it- i dont want her to be worried or scared for the future- and that contradicts how I am feeling right now- sometimes i want to just cry hard with all the strangleholds NWO is planning on the population....what really will be our kids future??

When she asks questions I try and give her part truth- but partly I keep my mouth shut so i dont neg her out too much or have her worry... I want her to experience being a Normal Teen- even if she hasnt got the 'average mother'lol... I cant see most her friends parents sitting down and discussing with their kids the choices available to make when ET shows their face!!

The other week, she was off school feeling a bit poorly- so I sat with her snuggled up with the pc and said i didnt want her to miss out on education just because she was offschool..so I introduced her to the 'ring of power' documentary... she found it relatively interesting- but didnt have the patience or attention span to watch it in full... but we had a good discussion and she asked somegood important questions..
Ijust want her to be an awake and aware human- but have the balance of 'normal'regular life- I was delighted last year when i overheard her advising her friends on the dangers of aspartame... and then this year she txt me from school saying they were having lunch outside and she was really upset that the chemtrails above her were poisening her and her friends while they ate... I really didnt know how to respond- I was glad she took notice and cares whats going on- but sad she now has this burden... I am the one who has introduced her to these things... some people may say it was too early?? I dunno... its done now!!
I know none of us have the answers and there is not any one 'right' way to deal with these issues... but hearing how other people walk the two worlds is always helpful!!

all the best
kate

Steven
17th March 2010, 14:14
I have two young boys, 4 and 2 years old. I began to introduce to them the reality of their consciousness. I tell them that when they are happy, everyone around becomes happy. Happyness is contagious. Of course it has to be simple and at their own level of consciousness. But it surprises me how smart they are to catch the deep truth behind it. My oldest once told me; 'Dad, it is also true when we are angry.'

Like Frank said, I try to keep it simple and at their own pace. Ultimatly, they learn much more by our own behavior, so we as parents have to double the effort to stay sharp and focused on positivity, rather then fall into negativity. I will tell them the 'bad news' later, for now, I want them to taste the power of consciousness. My oldest caught the message and draws everywhere what gift he wants for his birthday...

Namaste, Steven

firehorse10
17th March 2010, 14:18
thanks Steven.... thats very wise advise!! your children are blessed to have you
namaste

Gita
17th March 2010, 14:46
I have a 13 year old daughter who finds all this normal as I’ve been making her aware of things since she was old enough to talk. I only did this as it was normal to me as a child. In that sense I do count myself lucky. I sometimes feel that she thinks I’m crazy but she says she doesn’t! Hhmmm.:ohwell: She has a large group of friends and somehow has managed to keep the two worlds separate. I think we need to give kids more credit cos I do believe the majority do understand. All I can continue to do is to be truthful about everything and keep reminding her that fear has no place in what’s about to maybe happen. She seems cool with that and carries on enjoying her life. :rockon: She’s a great kid in that respect but as a teenager – well the less said about that the better!:rolleyes:

firehorse10
17th March 2010, 14:56
LOL Gita... sounds like you have the right balance there!!!... I am probably 'over concerning' myself with these worries... as you say- kids are more resourceful than we give them credit... and like your child- mine appears to take it all on board and assures me the subject matter doesnt bother her...

As for the teenage grumps ..well yeah less said the better!!

I lie your attitude!!
all the best,
kate

Kikine
17th March 2010, 18:35
Okay, Im going to say my point of view as a 19 years old. My mother always told me what she knew or things that she learned. I was then very ''aware'' at a young age and it was the same thing for my brother (16 years old) and my sister now (21). Yes, it can change your life from a ''normal'' teenager's life. I find it sometime hard to not have many friends with whom I could talk to about those kind of things. I wasnt interested in the same activities. Yes, sometimes I can say that I was sad. Friends are important when you are a teenager. However, when I had friends, it wasn't people who just wanted to be drunk or to take drugs etc. They were friends that I could still talk with them about some ''things''. Not everything of course cause I would be taken for a ''crazy'' person loL. To be awaken like that bring on me a period of ''stress''. However, I don't see those as negatives. To have go through all that, i became stronger in a sense. One thing for sure, I would never go back and change it. Even if someone was going to tell me that it would be more difficult or whatever, I wouldn't change a thing. I would still choose to know everything. Personnaly, I think this is the best thing that happened in my life. My brother and my sister are also aware and are doing very fine, just like myself. I would not have like if my mother had not told me everything she knew. But I cannot say anything for your daughter because it is different from one family to another. One thing for sure, i still want to learn everything! What I think its that we make our own choices. Even if you tell your daugther everything you know, she still can choose between believing it or not. I know that its complicated. But i wanted to share my experience. I am happy about what I became and when Im going to be a mother, I think I will say everything to my children. That would be my choice.

xbusymom
17th March 2010, 18:35
yeah, it is hard to find the line between the kooky ideas and normal behaviors.

I always posed new information as ‘what if’ possibilities/ how do you feel about/ what can you do to fix ...

you are doing great... just follow your heart and guidance, be there for them to bounce ideas off of you when they need/want to, and let them know its ok for them to believe differently than you

firehorse10
17th March 2010, 19:05
Hi Kilkine and Busymom!

your feedback is appreciated...

Its great to hear the perspective of a younger person brought up with some of these issue with an open minded mother...Kilkine- you sound pretty balanced person to me- and yes, I agree with the point that no matter what we teach our children they can 'choose' to see things differently... and that is good and healthy!
so far- my daughter takes on board the things i say to her and 'logs it' for a later date- often she will ask questions long after ii have forgotton we had a conversation!!!

Majorion
17th March 2010, 19:07
Hey firehorse, thanks, this is very constructive and one of those "deep thinking" threads.

I don't have children, so I'll only speak based on my own upbringing and how I arrived at the "awakened" stage myself.
IMHO, and I don't mean this is any negative way, but aside from encouraging your children to Read rather than watch TV (that is a Must), perhaps you shouldn't share all your personal beliefs till at least your child is older and can come to their own conclusions about things, kids are easiest influenced by their parents, what they're parents say, what they're parents believe in, what they do. Whose to say that if your child doesn't end up believing 'your truth' that they don't end up finding another truth of their own, through their own life experiences, that has just the same merit and fulfillment as yours.

True, the parent needs to guide the child for what they see best for them, but remember especially when they're at that age, anything you have them believe now will change the course of their life indefinitely and subsequently they form their own personalities in that way.

It was very thoughtful when you suggested that maybe after telling your child of all these 'truths', that they may be socially ridiculed and not accepted later because of it. Thats a very critical point and I applaud you for including it.

What I'll say and my sincerest advice is to let children (especially the older they get) learn most things on their own, even if its mistakes that they have to make, your only job is to safeguard them from extreme harm and teach them morality, discipline, respect, love, and dedication to the betterment of themselves, and always encourage them to read.

5thElement
17th March 2010, 22:19
Hey firehorse, thanks, this is very constructive and one of those "deep thinking" threads.
Excellent post firehorse! We have so many books in our house - all of the major (and some minor) religious texts. Books on ET, UFO, Bigfoot, Mysterious places of the World, Seven Wonders, Ghosts, Lake MOnsters, etc. Our kids just naturally became curious by reading or looking at the pictures. It seemed to keep them open minded to many different options. We also watched alot of documenteries on these different topics.
I am not sure that there is a right or wrong way - but awareness does not need to equal fear for any of us :)

5th

frank samuel
17th March 2010, 23:13
I will like to add that as a parent I share incredible deep conversations with my 15 year old son, he's an old soul. My other children like Steven I work at their level, since my youngest are 1 and 3 yrs. old, at this stage what they want to know is if they are love. As a child my mother could not raise me, I attended private boarding schools and only saw her on holidays, I was a bit of a loner.
Because of this I am now determine to dedicate my life to my children, everyday I put my best face forward come what may. Just be patient make sure you recharge your batteries to give them plenty of love and support , learn to begin to trust them and you will be pleasantly surprise by their level of maturity. Visualize the things you want them to learn, for me the most important thing is to develop their emotional strength so they can deal with whatever comes their way. In this way my children have become my teachers. By trying to over protect them you inhibit their potential to grow and develop naturally.Is like when they first begin to take their first steps you are scare to death that they might hurt themselves soon enough they are running all over the place and you learn to relax. Trust them , pray and meditate for their protection soon enough they will feel your warm embrace guiding them in times of need.:happy::thumb::wub:

Rocky_Shorz
17th March 2010, 23:18
actually Heretic has the answer in the avatar...

The kids are all laughing that we are all finally waking up...

ArtyCarl
17th March 2010, 23:25
When I was growing up neither of my parents had any interest in these things...like many they were too busy trying to put food on the table I guess. I used to be drawn to the unusual and while friends were reading the latest trendy novels I would be reading Eric Von Dannikens books and trying to make sense of the 'unexplained'.

I would like to think that I have set my children up to seek alternative answers and who knows...maybe I have set off a chain of events which leads my children and their children to greater and greater levels of understanding.

Northern Boy
17th March 2010, 23:37
My son is only 10 i have been telling him what is going on and how he / we have been manipulated to believe we need government to assist us and hold or hand to be able to live . in fact we don`t need them at all. I have told him to question his teachers and climate change do not accept the story make them prove it and not take the Official Government story as fact . When all the facts prove it to be the exact opposite. He has done it and when it does happen they refuse to deal with him saying they will address it later i have told him to make her discuss it and not ignore you but as of yet it has not happened

xbusymom
18th March 2010, 00:16
actually Heretic has the answer in the avatar...

The kids are all laughing that we are all finally waking up...

that is sooo true...my second son (now 22) was always refusing to go to church and got me to re-thinking my stance on beliefs, etc.- within the last 2 years!

firehorse10
18th March 2010, 01:51
Wow. all of you make very good valid points and observations- so once again, thanks!
I think I must be a fusion of all of you here..lol.. I pretty much on certain levels take a similair stance to Northern boy in so much as, I try and encourage her to do critical thinking for herself- and to politely question information she is given if it doesnt feel right either in school or with me- or anyone! however, more often than not she doesnt as yet- but that may come later on..

similar to Arty Carl- my parents NEVER questioned any of the issues we are dealing with.. I was forever seeking answers to metaphysical questions and demanding answers about god,life the universe and where we came from..whilst my poor parents were just trying to get by, do their jobs andput food on table.. !!! I couldnt understand why they were not interested in all this....and they couldnt understand why I was! lol... always felt like I had come from a different planet to them..but then my daughter probably thinks that about me at times!! I do like to think that I am being a conduit for change in more progressive ways than previous family members... and that includes how I raise my child. I have had to fight tooth and nail and argue/reason myself sick so i could stick to my principles, beliefs and values in life as they differed so much from my family... my dear mother at age 80 still challenges everything I do in life -including how i raise my girl...but I believe I am doing the right thing for her healthwise - totally unvaccinated, no mercury in her mouth, holistic herbal healthcare/medication - disciplined her without the need to smack (as kids we were hit /punished with belt for any misdemenor) etc etc.....

Like frank- I was sent to boarding schools and was a bit of a loner- in the holidays my parents worked 24/7 so we were left to our own devises -i never felt close to my parents, or even respected them that much- I thought their values were crap and they talked nonsence! ...well thank goodness its not that way with me and my daughter- so far we have giggles/laughs- talk/share and she does LISTEN- even when she pretends not to!! I believe deep down that she is respectful of the fact that i dare to stand up and not be part of the sheepherd if i dont agree.. she is learning about the importance of having principles and standing by personal values- so on that level I dont question if I am doing the right thing or not... its more in the areas around having to be 'careful' she doesnt inadvertently repeat toomuch of anything considered 'controversial' that we have discussed in an open manner back to her teachers or other parents of friends.... it doesnt take too much these days in the UK for teachers to make a decision that a child is talking /behaving 'differently' therefore must need some 'help' therapy or intervention from social services.... I guess Ultimately THAT is the biggest challenge walking the two worlds side by side and trying to keep my daughter balanced in her perspective at the same time.

well, its late here in Uk, and i should have been asleep ages ago- so apologies if this last post is a bit rambling...
look forward to hearing more perspectives ...x

Celine
18th March 2010, 16:08
Children and Yoga might be one way...

http://www.yogasite.com/yoga%20kids.htm

Stargazer
18th March 2010, 16:48
I will like to add that as a parent I share incredible deep conversations with my 15 year old son, he's an old soul. My other children like Steven I work at their level, since my youngest are 1 and 3 yrs. old, at this stage what they want to know is if they are love. As a child my mother could not raise me, I attended private boarding schools and only saw her on holidays, I was a bit of a loner.
Because of this I am now determine to dedicate my life to my children, everyday I put my best face forward come what may. Just be patient make sure you recharge your batteries to give them plenty of love and support , learn to begin to trust them and you will be pleasantly surprise by their level of maturity. Visualize the things you want them to learn, for me the most important thing is to develop their emotional strength so they can deal with whatever comes their way. In this way my children have become my teachers. By trying to over protect them you inhibit their potential to grow and develop naturally.Is like when they first begin to take their first steps you are scare to death that they might hurt themselves soon enough they are running all over the place and you learn to relax. Trust them , pray and meditate for their protection soon enough they will feel your warm embrace guiding them in times of need.:happy::thumb::wub:

Frank....You really said it...I go through this a lot with my 5 year old.

My parents weren't around for me though they were "there"....I'm trying to steer her into the things that make her happy...I want her to ask questions and to question anything and everything.

I try to give her the knowledge that was kept from me sooo long.

Her big thing lately is "am I going to die??" "are you going to die?"" Which I answer...We never die...we just change

"Will tornadoes come and blow our house down"...They may....but we'll be okay...Refer to above

Nothing and no one has taught me more than her...Peace Y'all

Samarkis
19th March 2010, 17:55
Hi all!!
I have 3 children: Son 14 3/4, daughter 13, daughter 9.... Our spiritual journey as a family started about 5 years ago.... I have been teaching them how "I" look at life.........then there is no arguement or issues........it is MY view on life and no one can say I am wrong or right and the children can take or leave what they want......I explain & share about consciousness, how to use emotions & intentions & we do healing and protection intentions together all the time!!! We LOVE going to Coral Castle together for meditations..... They are very accepting of most things and I always point out what other's objections or agreements are so they have several standpoints and they won't be blindsided by those that don't understand higher consciousness......They see I have no fear of the coming changes and so are at peace that when the time comes.....we all will be ready.....I have told them that there are possibilities of changing into light beings but all humanity will do this together.....there is comfort in knowing we are all connected and it also makes more sense to them that there is higher intelligence at play.......
Wishing you much success!!!

Ruis
25th May 2010, 21:39
The simplest way is to lead by example.

When we speak of 'awareness' and being 'awake' we are really speaking of thinking, doing and living in a conscious way. But a major part of consciousness is to understand how and why we hold to the beliefs we have.

I do not suggest you dissect your every thought or justify your own beliefs but understand them. Do your arguments stand up to critical analyses or do you move the facts to fit the theory.

This is how the world around us operates moving around the results to match the excepted. After all the world was flat, and proven to be so by many scientist and other 'experts'

Teaching children to question and use the skills of critical analyses, means they will have the tools to look at society in a different way. But those skills also need to be seen in action.

I talk with my son about everything and I also ask him questions which I hope will get him thinking. Asking someone to think is not generally the way society works. When was the last time a politician asked the public to think about an issue?

Victoria Tintagel
25th May 2010, 22:22
Hi there, as a Nanny I experience a lot of common sense and wisdom in children. I believe it's more appropriate to state "Help, how can our children prepare us for the changes to come?"
I believe the children know, in their souls, what and why they are here now. By allowing them to be free in expressing themselves and being an example of love for them is the best I can do.
I notice that lots of children are mad as hell, when they are told how to do things and how to behave, they hold a determination that is awesome! By consciously guarding them in becoming not overdosed with sensory input, children are little angels.......;)

Anchor
25th May 2010, 23:05
Each moment presents the challenge.

Your task is to provide an orderly environment in which the developing individual can find thier own way through the maze. Encourage questions. Tell the truth. Admit when you don't know the answers. Be clear when you are expressing belief over fact. Be guided by your higher self. Prepare to be amazed at what your child knows that you may have forgotten, or got so used to you dont think about it anymore. To teach is to learn, and to learn is to teach.

Everything will be allright.

AJ..

Disclaimer: no kids.

Ross
25th May 2010, 23:13
My daughters are well on their way...with discernment and their knowledge of 'nothing is what it seems' Both understand this 'our perception of reality is based on our belief systems, a construct of the information we have received' they understand that 'this' information is full of dis-info, 16yrs and 20yrs...very proud of their discernment skills I am...

Peace

Celine
25th May 2010, 23:22
Perhaps this will not translate well into words..

but my grandson seemed to have been born...awake.

He was born on 4/20...of 2008

greybeard
25th May 2010, 23:36
Yes I understand that well Celine.
My youngest son Graham, now 18, when he was a baby the eyes were rolled back into his head most of the time as though he was meditating, all you could see was the whites.
Ive discussed deep spiritual truth with him, it was a waste of time Lol. He knows.
Oh woe is me to have a son who knows more than me. Even worse he plays guitar and sings better than me.
Just thought I would let my ego out to have some fun.
All is well.
Chris

Celine
25th May 2010, 23:38
How proud to see your son...go beyond the limitations of your life!!

bluestflame
26th May 2010, 01:18
in an atmosphere where they feel supported in giving voice to the questions that arise the ones they seek anothers perspective on , in the comparing of notes perspectives shared , other options present themselves , other potentials

bluestflame
26th May 2010, 01:21
they are here to remind us to go beyond limited thinking , to challenge what we ourselves have been taught to accept as real and valid , to question and to challenge , to adjust our course, unless of course we choose to adopt a passive role in our own life ...choosing what to accept in our reality ...and how to look at what presents itself ~☼~

777
27th May 2010, 15:13
My son is only 10 i have been telling him what is going on and how he / we have been manipulated to believe we need government to assist us and hold or hand to be able to live . in fact we don`t need them at all. I have told him to question his teachers and climate change do not accept the story make them prove it and not take the Official Government story as fact . When all the facts prove it to be the exact opposite. He has done it and when it does happen they refuse to deal with him saying they will address it later i have told him to make her discuss it and not ignore you but as of yet it has not happened

This EXACT scenario has happened to me today. I've just picked my 10 year old son up from school. He's very curious about the "state of play" and constantly bombards me with questions to the point I have to watch how deep I go with it all......even my other half advises me to protect and maintain his innocence (yet refuses to wake up herself as it's "too scary"), I'd say that's maintaining his ignorance not innocence.

Today he came home having been doing a project on Brazil. At school they've been feeding him with a load of bull**** about climate change. I'm really not sure how to play this as I'm a very passive person who seeks unification rather than confrontation. But this has got me really pissed off on behalf of my son. I don't like the fact he's being lied to at school and to be honest I really don't know as a parent (for the first time in my life) how to play this.

What would you do?!?!

Gita
27th May 2010, 15:20
777, my experience shows that kids hate being lied to and more than that they always prefer the truth. I’ve never held back anything from my daughter since she was born. I’ve always told her that most of the info I give her goes against the norm but the norm is not what people think it is. She’s extremely switched on and knows exactly how to ‘fit in’ at school whilst contemplating the truth on her own. Kids are much more resilient than adults give them credit for and much more smarter.:)

Peace of Mind
27th May 2010, 15:47
Just be there for them. Your friendship, support, and knowledge will assist them in their learning. Teach them how to decipher facts from opinions, keep them inspired to asking questions…like they always do.

The organized learning institutions are set up to train more than educate. Know days they are teaching to standardized tests instead of educating them to think and analyze for themselves…this is not a good thing, but it does bring more awareness to the true intentions of the system.

Raising kids has always been the parent’s responsibility. Just be there for the youngins, your presence will teach them what they need to know in order to help themselves. No worries

Peace

Niobe
27th May 2010, 21:39
This topic has been on my mind lately too. My son is 13 and I am concerned sometimes as his whole focus is career and managing his money. I want him to see that life isn't all about money. I guess the best way to do that is by example. He does ask a lot of questions though as I tend to make comments about things we hear on the radio in the car, or if he tells me something I don't agree with that he learned at school (like climate change). A lot of times when I'm explaining something to him that I have read and feel has validity, I will say "some people say, or some people believe", that way leaving an open door, in a way. If he does ask me directly what I believe, I will tell him.

I am happy to say that he is going to be taking online courses for his first year of high school. We were considering home schooling, but feel this is a good compromise as our local public school offers the online program. He doesn't seem to have any interest right now in the social aspect of school and generally finds the kids to be a hindrance to his learning, which is fine by me. I've enjoyed this thread (thanks so much for starting it Kate) and listening to everyone's ideas and viewpoints. Too bad some of us that have kids the same age don't live closer!
~Niobe

frank samuel
27th May 2010, 22:15
You guys and gals are going to laugh at me since this thread is about children I am trying to potty train my 3 year old son who shares a common trait with his father stubborn as can be. Any suggestion from you mothers and fathers out there , I really appreciated.

Many blessings to all...:wub:

greybeard
27th May 2010, 22:42
You guys and gals are going to laugh at me since this thread is about children I am trying to potty train my 3 year old son who shares a common trait with his father stubborn as can be. Any suggestion from you mothers and fathers out there , I really appreciated.

Many blessings to all...:wub:

Hi Frank
by demonstration.
Get the the help of the sibling nearest in age to go through the motions -- dummy run might do -- then praise him or her.
I wouldn't worry it is inevitable that your son sooner or later will.
As for how to prepare our kids re the header.
I have 5 aged from 18 -40.
They are all different so I treat them differently.
Told them the minimum a bit at a time with humor.
to youngest I said You know todays fact tomorrows fiction, science is progressing so fast your mobile of yesterday is obsolete before you even buy it, teachers give you up to date info but tomorrow it will be different it evolves, so do we. We are an evolutionary species we hardly resemble our ancient forefathers-- do you think we have stopped evolving or reached the peak of our potential?
I go softly a bit at a time. I dont tell them scary stuff that might not happen. I dont show them David Icke videos, I dont talk about reptilians. I dont believe that myself)
I dont knock the government. I keep it positive. If they have questions I answer positively, if I dont know I say so.
I do say we might have a power failure due to sun activity so I hve advised the older ones with family ( my grand children) to have extra food in and some money put by in case the cash machines fail. I keep it all low key.
I have mentioned crop circles without going into why of it, They have PCs so they can investigate. I mention UFOs but not they are coming to rescue us. ( I dont believe that either)
I speak also of earth changes but we are possibly relatively safe here, except that if the gulf stream slows down anymore we could have an ice age.
Basically they are of an age that I can trust them.
Hope this helps.
Love Chris


Hope this helps.

annemirri
28th May 2010, 13:17
Children and Yoga might be one way...

http://www.yogasite.com/yoga%20kids.htm

When my children were around three and five I bought them Yoga Kids video,
and they loved it !

It was a big hit in birthday parties, the kids were immitating different kind of animal poses
as same time learning about breathing techniques etc.

Then around seven the yoga became boring, too slow...

but now, when my daughter is sixteen and half she is back to Yoga.

a.

Gita
28th May 2010, 13:22
You guys and gals are going to laugh at me since this thread is about children I am trying to potty train my 3 year old son who shares a common trait with his father stubborn as can be. Any suggestion from you mothers and fathers out there , I really appreciated.

Many blessings to all...:wub:

Throw a ball of paper in the potty and tell your son to sink that sucker in one! All fun and aims!:laugh:

It really does work Frank. :wink:

annemirri
28th May 2010, 13:48
kids are easiest influenced by their parents, what they're parents say, what they're parents believe in, what they do.

Could it ever be the other way round ?

I was kind of lost and alone in this world before my children, and then they came,
and I could ask questions and get clear answers without any conditioning, religious or so.





It was very thoughtful when you suggested that maybe after telling your child of all these 'truths', that they may be socially ridiculed and not accepted later because of it.

Is it that important to be socially accepted ? to please others ?

Children are not that weak and fragile,or stupid, they are much stronger than many of us may think.

Be honest.




What I'll say and my sincerest advice is to let children (especially the older they get) learn most things on their own, even if its mistakes that they have to make, your only job is to safeguard them from extreme harm and teach them morality, discipline, respect, love, and dedication to the betterment of themselves, and always encourage them to read.


LIfe is a big adventure, take them for adventures, where they have to learn to make their own decisions, solve problems, find out truths, right ways to act or behave...

My children have always read A LOT, too much at times, now they are moving from books to newspapers,
we haven't watched Tv for almost four years (very bad in UK), but we do watch lot of movies,
world cinema, to open the mind.

And we talk a lot...I have no secrets, neither do my children. It makes life free.

a.