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WhiteFeather
9th July 2011, 03:27
Does anyone that has been awakened notice that the unawakened friends/family/co workers etc. make us feel like we are the odd ones. I try to show them Hollistic Cures for many diseases and even cancers and they are so programmed from The FDA/TPTB its upon deaf ears. Alot of people think im odd, but i know i am on the right track because it resonates with me. Seems like a left out feeling at times. Im used to it but very peculiar. Anyone Else?

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How do we cope with this all the time, I am alright with it i guess, but feel like im on a different planet lately. Heading Into Ascension.

Lord Sidious
9th July 2011, 03:39
I have been the outsider in every group I was ever in all my life, so I don't notice anything different.

Davidallany
9th July 2011, 03:44
That makes 3 of us, the law of attraction works. Most Avalonians have seen this as well. It's good to connect with the source, it beats connecting to TV :)

Camilo
9th July 2011, 03:48
I would have to say that we all feel the same way (frustrating to say the least), so the best if not the only thing we can do (because I've tried anything and everything and forget it) is to enfold them with love, compassion, understanding and our higher energies, wishing (creating a space for them) that their time will come soon in this life time, or whenever their higherselves have designated for that to happen.

toothpick
9th July 2011, 04:31
I seem to be the only one in my family that is awake and aware.
A few friends and family will let me broach the subject of being awake, but, I,m afraid they are just being polite.
It only takes a few minutes before people are giving each other the look, eyes start rolling back in thier heads.
Soon they are jockeying around so they won,t be the person standing next to you, god forbid, what ever would they say about such foolishness.
It is an overwheming feeling of hopelessness to see so many people still asleep.
Sometimes I wonder if some of these people are awake, but won,t admit it because it is so much easier to be in the majority.

toothpick

Carmody
9th July 2011, 04:57
I have been the outsider in every group I was ever in all my life, so I don't notice anything different.

:p

Welcome to my life!

Been that way since I can remember. It is in my first memories, when I was 4 years old, even.



I just go about as I am (for the most part) and let them deal with their uncomfortableness on their own.

Carmen
9th July 2011, 05:43
Used to be the outsider, not that I tried to be different. Now some of my family and friends are awake and aware and its great. With unawakened friends and others I throw them a curved ball of something wayout every now and then just to see how they react! Just checking!!!LOL

Tony
9th July 2011, 06:45
Perhaps we're doing something right!
Perhaps many are on the verge.
Perhaps I'm dreaming.
Perhaps you are a figment of my imagination.
Still it's nice to have company for a while.

SkepticSoul
9th July 2011, 08:04
hmmz ya i feel you xD

Luckily i have 1 friend and 2 brother that share my enthousiasm and intrest in the 'alternative non manipulated truths'.
What I do is, just blur out 1 topic at a time per week or something when u are eating dinner with ur family for instance...
Intresting thing in my family is, i have 2 brothers both younger than me, my youngest brother was always intrested in this kinda stuff he is 15 years old on. I have introduced gently to some 'out of this world' topics talk to him give him clues, next thing I know next day he has searched all over the internet and found all sorts of stuff and came to me with questions. My 2nd brother on the other hand 19yrs now he discovered it by himself and i found out about it a little later since then we share toughts and theories and phylosophise whenever we're in the mood xD

My point is, dont give up on them... eventually family and friends will realise sooner or later...

Greetz

christian
9th July 2011, 09:01
If you are really as awake as you claim, you should know, that people won't just come at you saying "thanks for waking me up" everytime you try to.

So I guess in your case, work on your discernment.

To answer the question though, what does a lightworker do, who feels hardly appreciated: What would the Nazarene do? ;) Plant a seed on good soil, otherwise move on, keep doing your thing.

Realeyes
9th July 2011, 10:26
I realised something was terribly wrong with societies thinking at the age of 4. When I was 8 I would gaze up at the stars and weep as I was convinced I had been dropped off onto the wrong planet :hurt:
I remembered life to be harmonious and this timeframe of Earth certainly wasn’t. :fencing:

Life is harsh here and I decided when I was 8 that although social consciousness is topsey turvy and upside-down, I would not allow it to suppress my joyful and hopeful nature. Everyone has an inner radiant beauty (beyond survival instincts) and I do what I can each day encouraging this greatness in myself and others. This also involves heaps of forgiveness towards myself as well as others understanding that when we are in a ‘limited program’ we know not what we do, (it isn’t personal) - Ignorance is forgivable - it is gaining the wisdom that's important. This is how I have survived, knowing one day harmony will blossom as humanity awakens to their spiritual greatness. :grouphug:

Humble Janitor
9th July 2011, 12:33
I believe it's not my duty to inform people. They must look for the truth on their own.

I do not think it's fair to them to use the word "awakened" because there's always the possibility that we've left one prison and awakened in another.

Miller
9th July 2011, 12:49
My family and friends are (on the whole for enlightened people) quite indulgent with my "radical" (in their opinion) views, although I know when they've reached their limits and tone it down accordingly. HOWEVER, I remember I used to be just like that - couldn't believe that our elected politicians would act against our best interests, let alone stoop to engineering elaborate plans to bring about the death of thousands of their own people for their own agenda - and then one day I saw something odd, which made me sit up and take note. This was the first crack, and then very quickly loads of other cracks started to appear in the way that I thought and then whamo - the avalanche that left me reeling and aware. And that's what's happening with folk every minute of every day, and why I'll never give up chipping away, chipping away. I just takes one small thought that something is not quite right.

We will all get there.

phillipbbg
9th July 2011, 13:07
All you can do is show them the door, if they aren't interested in going outside, you take them to the window and even when they SEE what is outside with their own eyes, they are reluctant or no believing....... I classify most as shed people, occasionally you can get one to come outside for a while but most gently go back inside.....

I can understand the comfort of being inside safe and protected in their own mind set, but regrettably for me inside is like being locked away from everything worth living for....

Here's to the shed people.... I wish them many lives of comfort

meredith
9th July 2011, 13:16
Sometimes I feel like that.

Daft Ada
9th July 2011, 13:44
I'm the same as Lord Sid, Been the outsider all my life, although interestingly of late I have found people are waking up and I have had quite a few people wanting to ask me questions and give them information as to where to get information.
I usually test the water in conversation, if I get a reaction that indicates they think that aliens and UFOs etc are all a big joke, I just leave it and join in with whatever boring mundane topic they wish to chat about, if they take an interest i start gently, asking what they think of Roswell or all the UFO reports, or something like that. I don't think you can go in all guns blazing, it scares them off :eek: I say a little bit and then shut up and let them think about it, inevitably they ask me questions when they see me again.

Snowbird
9th July 2011, 13:56
Does anyone that has been awakened notice that the unawakened friends/family/co workers etc. make us feel like we are the odd ones. I try to show them Hollistic Cures for many diseases and even cancers and they are so programmed from The FDA/TPTB its upon deaf ears. Alot of people think im odd, but i know i am on the right track because it resonates with me. Seems like a left out feeling at times. Im used to it but very peculiar. Anyone Else?

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How do we cope with this all the time, I am alright with it i guess, but feel like im on a different planet lately. Heading Into Ascension.

This Earth plane is just difficult. For as long as I can recall, I have felt uncomfortable and alone on this planet, even though I am usually surrounded by other people. I have yet to find a place or location on this Earth where I feel energetically grounded. Although, as I have aged I am able to cope much more easily than before. And, now that I consider myself awake and aware, I understand the 'why' of it all.

The vast majority of people I come in contact with on a daily basis are simply fast asleep. Most of these show signs of confusion and unhappiness, which are growing signs. I feel really badly for them however, because at some point in time in the not at all distant future, they will be jolted awake and the scenes before them will shock their foundations.

There are tens of millions of those now who are considered awake, but still multiple billions of those who are considered asleep.

These alternative forums are an enormous help and aid to those who are going through this process. Even if some of the information is disinformation, they are offered viewpoints and ideas that extend far outside of their forced boxes.

IMO, we who have never felt a belonging or have felt grounded or comfortable on this Earth, are helping to awaken others every day of our lives by simply being. It is our not belonging that is helping to awaken every person with whom we come in contact....even if we don't even know their names or will ever see them again. Our responsibility is to bring about change just simply by living our daily lives. We truly ARE the change.

:grouphug: :hippie:

Lotse
9th July 2011, 13:59
hi,
i dont think all souls are to be awoken yet..think of neo in the matrix,,he gets the choice between a red and a bleu pill..
one is for waking up..and so being aware of all the sh!t in the rabbit hole..and the other for a dreaming hypnotic state..
just for ppl who want to maintain joining there steak.

there always bin ppl awake among all sleeping..especialy the last 500yrs..when the real awakening started.

Greatings.L

Bryn ap Gwilym
9th July 2011, 14:17
Like Lord Sidious I have always been the outsider, so for me its the norm, but I do know what you mean. But I feel that people who say they are "awake" use this term far to loosely when in fact they are just as comatose as the ones they are trying to re-educate.

Some fine examples are;

If you are using a govt controlled / monitored operating system ie, windows & mac.
If you shop in supermarkets,
If you vote for a main party,
If you follow any form of religion,
Going into defence mode,
Sending your children to an english medium school,
Believing anything that fits into your bubble,
Agreeing to a contract,
Not helping the needy,
Paying taxes,
Accepting everything is a law, because that's what you are told
etc etc etc

Basically, doing everything that everyone else does but with a slightly different view does not make folk, should I say "Awake"

Tenzin
9th July 2011, 14:29
There are so many levels of awakening and surely, many will still be left behind. We probably are the ones being abandoned the last cycle and those who might have been guiding us spiritually may be waiting for us eagerly on the other side.

When the people around us see the peace and happiness we exude amidst the chaos and fear, the curious few will want listen to what we have to share. But if we force the truth down their throat, we lose the chance to ever wake them up. I tried, and realized, it does more harm to a fruit when we pick it too early. It will have to rot away and find itself on the branch all over again before it ripens on its own.

Not everyone is meant to wake in this lifetime, though a lot more are going to be real soon. Celebrations! :)

Jake
9th July 2011, 14:36
There are so many levels of awakening and surely, many will still be left behind. We probably are the ones being abandoned the last cycle and those who might have been guiding us spiritually may be waiting for us eagerly on the other side.

When the people around us see the peace and happiness we exude amidst the chaos and fear, the curious few will want listen to what we have to share. But if we force the truth down their throat, we lose the chance to ever wake them up. I tried, and realized, it does more harm to a fruit when we pick it too early. It will have to rot away and find itself on the branch all over again before it ripens on its own.

Not everyone is meant to wake in this lifetime, though a lot more are going to be real soon. Celebrations! :)

I really like what you say here!! It rings true. :) We can only do so much for others. We can set the stage and continue to be a mentor, but we cannot (and perhaps SHOULD not) try and 'force' and awakening in someone.

I also like to look at it like this: Imagine how fulfilling and humbling it will be if/when most of the world is awake and aware. AND AWARE OF BEING AWAKE AND AWARE! :) We can always look back and laugh, knowing that we were one of the first! :):):):) I like that a lot!

Lifebringer
9th July 2011, 15:31
I've been going through that at home occassionally, but when it happens, I simply look at them like they aren't on the same page. To blindly walk among all that's going on, as this planet enters the 5th, and they remain in the 3rd. I pray for them because I know everyone will come on at their own time when God sees fit to do so. Some can't handle all the truth at once and have to gradually awaken or it will blow their minds. Remember back a few years ago when the first contact of Oct 14 2008 in all languages came through to tell them to tell the people the truth about them by the end of 2010, well the trickle from US and the massive disclosure from every other nation , will make this democratic republic look like a backwood neanderthalic hick country, by still trying to keep it secret and acting like the sitings existence hasn't happened here.
There will be a lot of "I told you so's soon." I will gladly say mine to my husband.

Lifebringer
9th July 2011, 15:37
I started dropping video links to sitings in other country's that are translated in English, if I send them enough, sometimes they pay attention. But I only send the really good ones and some of the press conferences witness statements.
The funny part is when they do start to realize, "heyyy, that's not a plane," or "heyyy, our guys can't do that." Airforce fuel specialist see things while on duty, and then block them at home sometimes, but when some of the video clicks a memory, boy do they open up.

Lifebringer
9th July 2011, 15:50
Same here, I was three when my first supernatural experience happened in CA, and my Mom was the one that told me. She said she would sit me in the stroller inside the kitchen just inside from where she hung clothes out to dry in our backyard. Our father was stationed in Edwards Airforce Base in 1959. She told me every time she would put me in and come back I would be on the floor just laying there when she would come back in. At first she said she thought that I was sliding out of one of the legs in the stroller and getting out my self, but then she put the strap on and the same thing happened again. Needless to say, she placed me back in the stroller, and peaked in the door every few seconds or so, and sure enough, "something" had lifted me out of the stroller and gently lay me down on the floor in front of her eyes. She said she picked me up and went to a neighbor who's husband was also active duty and told her and they both repeated the action and it happened again. They told my father and she said she wanted to move and shortly after that, we did. Another instance is my insite to the soul of plants and trees. I'm very good at gardening and have always taken the most care when snipping fruits or veggies off them, but I remember seeing the face and then the full body of Jesus in a tree's bark as I was 7 and sometimes got caught talking to the vision. It didn't move it's mouth, but it did speak in my mind. Told me to go to church and sing for God. I did and was good at that as a soloist. Then in 1977 a slow moving UFO moved over my house during a birthday party with about 30 guest with their mouths all dropped open and pointing at it as it moved slowly over a hill. Since I told my better halves this(married 3 times) they have said things like, maybe there is something to your purpose here because everyone is drawn to you light. They themselves were drawn to it. All of them loved me and the way if a balloon popped that was a childs, I would pick up the pieces and still blow enough of the broken balloon up, to put a smile on the heartbroken kids face. So I guess just hanging out here gives me hope and peace of mind to know, this to shall pass and the age of Aquarius, the beginning is happening now, and we are all the blessed generation from 1957 throughout 1979 of volunteer souls to help the human race prepare.
Be kind, it's hard to hate someone who shows love.

<8>
9th July 2011, 16:32
Hi and thanks for the thread.

There are no sport if all are awake = Not much to learn
Ofc i try to show my close ones the truth. (But they cant see)
To day my friends talked about money and how a house price are like a fantasy now. Soo i told them that i think money are not real any more. (I know money never have been real its a man made thing)
I tried to explain that in the old days they had gold to back up the paper money. Now they just print money like its air! When you go to the bank and get money to a house do you think they move a same amount of gold? No its just numers in the comp now. (And if the NWO get there "nwo" they chip you and they dont need to print any paper money.)
"I did not go in to the NWO thing." (its to much for them)
But i have to say for the first time they got me! I guess the people who are a sleep think alot about money.:P Maby its like many people say, the money are the new religion.

PixieDust
9th July 2011, 16:39
i never fit in either. I never felt like i even fit in with my family like i was adopted and im just waiting. My mom said id always say extremly profound things when i was very young. Mostly i'd talk about life being a dream and we'll wake up soon.

the thing about trying to wake someone else up is you cant push your own truths on them. Whats true to you may not be true to them. When having conversations with those that aren't quiet ready i usually just ask queastions or make statements in a way that leads to questions instead of just stating this is whats happening these are the facts. It will be more profound to the person when THEY find the truth vs it being told to them.

my best friends boyfriend is seemingly awake but he only believes his truths and pushes them on to you. i remember trying to have many conversations with him only to be completly slaughtered because he just states what he knows and refuses to see the other ideas. He wouldnt listen to my theories and any one i might come up with he'd squash and just be like No. this is how it is. this is how it works. SO i figured to just stay away from any topic like that with him.

Rather sad because he has a huge memory of great knowledge and facts but the way he delivers them is so disconcerning that i cant have a conversation and learn anything from him.

so in short, like lifebringer said, anyone that gives you grief just kill them with kindness. I've pissed several people off by not responding to their rudeness or attacks and just being nice. Sometimes its quite fun! hheheeheh

Grizzom
9th July 2011, 17:52
The sheeple aren't sleeping zombies, Their addicts in denial!

Ask them if they ever noticed that the Doctors don't heal, Schools don't teach, no justice in the courts,churches are scams,etc "Everything is backward". WHY! When they stumble for a answer walk away! You planted a seed. If and when they hit their bottom, and get sick and tired of being sick and tired, and in debt, they will want help (Knowledge) really want it, thats when you can ease them back into reality and help them de-program the mind virus.

ks4ever
10th July 2011, 01:56
Thank you for this thread.

I have always been aware, but it was not until January 2010 that I decided to break my silence. This came about after following the Camelot Portal for several years and not liking what was going on in our part of the universe. I meet dozens of people in my shop and I enlighten at least three or four of them every day and steer them in the right direction to find out more for themselves. I pick my subjects carefully and it is surprising how many people are already awake to some degree. We live in an exciting time in the history of our species, but the universe is a dangerous place, and if we are going to survive we must do things different to the way we are doing them now. Spread the word.

phimonic
10th July 2011, 03:20
when i was a kid, i always had the feeling, that the grown ups must have some dark secrets, else the world couldn't be as heartless.
i was always interested in everything mystical, magic, unexplainable etc.. and have my own view on things, which i often won't tell, because people wouldn't understand.
if i didn't have my humor, i would have been an outsider all my life, i guess, but somehow i always had quite good friends teachers, which I'm thankful for.
though i'm careful what i say to whom. - i mean my parents for example just do not want to know about many things, it frightens them i think. they are afraid to accept, that what they've learned all their lives to be good is based on lies.
still most people are aware of, that many things are wrong and that politicians don't care about the people's interests, about greedy companies delivering their daily supplies etc. - so the potential for awakening is absolutely there i think, but people want to sleep for their personal comfort, for money and the need of surviving within concrete jungle. - i think i don't need to tell you those things, though ^^.
people needed good leaders - conscious leaders that help them and have real alternatives at hand. - actually people are very eager to awake, some might just don't know yet. - how to show them, so they find out for themselves is an interesting topic, to me.

but aren't we all awake and sleeping at the same time? - some more and the ones less are more aware for different things - it's important to respect and tolerate each other, no matter the state of awareness.
don't point finger at the sleeping, i meant. without many sleeping, there can't be a big awakening :)
so i don't want to stop searching for further awareness - i think anyone of us can improve in being aware (awake) - or anyone among you, who thinks he is full aware, totally controlling his/her universe? without some issues ^^

MariaDine
10th July 2011, 03:36
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0osPFPK0eaw

It rains because WE are sad...Sad that many we love are not awake and with us.... Freewill and Tolerance. We must remember this to go on.
Namasté

Realeyes
10th July 2011, 10:47
I have just caught up reading the latest posts on this thread since yesterday - it warms my cockles to read all your words. :hug:

Becoming ‘Consciously Aware’, as I humbly understand it, is the path to ‘Awakening’ that involves many different levels of perception forever expanding what we ‘experience/see’ existing in reality(s) and discovering what is hidden within ourselves. IMHO we can only ‘awaken’ ourselves, it is an alone inner journey – yet we can plant ‘seeds’ in others to begin their own awakening journey. We are all unique, what is truth to me may not be truth to another.

For many years now I have learnt the best way to get someone’s attention and be able to plant a ‘seed’ is to first ‘listen intently’ to whatever that person is speaking about, their interests, beliefs, concepts, concerns etc. By doing this, I learn their ‘language of thought’. Then I work within their language of thought/belief to plant a new seed of thought that they will ‘hear’ and understand and hopefully contemplate it into more expanding thoughts if they so wish. Communication is key – it is no good speaking to someone in a foreign language because their attention instantly switches off; :bored: one has to use the language 'they know'. It matters not what the subject matter is, there is always room to plant a seed even in the mundane. So when I am talking to a car mechanic, I will use mechanical terms to sow the seed; if a gardener I will use Nature as the example; a Christian, their bible etc. ;)

AND, just as important, I too am learning all the time by doing this, learning to be present (without judgement – a big one), learning to engage and communicate with all walks of life. I have not mastered this yet.....but on the way. :kiss:

phillipbbg
10th July 2011, 10:58
Have just been watching an interview with an American Politician who kept stating that We have to ASSASSINATE the leader of Libya and all those around him to win the WAR.......

Is anyone awake??? and actually hearing what words are being used? If someone openly stated on world media that they as a government were going to assassinate the leader of America would this not constitute a war crime, especially as this is not a WAR it is applying the UN resolution to protect the people of Libya from being slaughtered by the Army etc..... we are supposed to assist the democratic process....

It amazes me how the words of murder and killing and invading are so openly excepted and un challenged in our daily news.... Am I alone in thinking there is something wrong here? or is EVERYONE Listening but so desensitized that they are not paying attention....

Sorry but to me a little more waking up is needed ....

WhiteFeather
11th July 2011, 13:33
I laugh, they tell me your programmed by what you research on the Internet, my response, Your programmed by what they show you on the Tell-Lie-Vision which is Fear hatred anger. My research involves humanity, caring for Gaia, love and compassion for one another including animals, plants etc.

greybeard
11th July 2011, 13:46
You cant escape being programed as the mind is like the hard ware of a computer, however, one you have a degree of awareness you can choose the software.
Repeated exposure to anything good or not so good will affect your programing and therefore the way you act.

Goebbels who was a master at propaganda said

Tell a lie often enough and people will believe it

So being awake might just mean you are more aware of the lies and deception in this illusion.

Chris

king anthony
11th July 2011, 14:38
Does anyone that has been awakened notice that the unawakened friends/family/co workers etc. make us feel like we are the odd ones… How do we cope with this all the time, I am alright with it i guess, but feel like im on a different planet lately. Heading Into Ascension.

No better example than right here; the difference being, many here “think” and “speak” about being “awake” and are not, for their programming/conditioning do not allow it – all the while, many here promote “something” other, such as ascensions, timelines, travelling to some faraway galaxy, love & light, "feel good", gossip and comets. How can anyone expect to wake anyone else up when they themselves are asleep!? But who am I that anyone should listen to - as the odd one here.

NeoEmc2
11th July 2011, 15:04
my .02 to the OP

This happens to everyone who is newly awakened and thinks that they need to start to tell everyone everything they know so they can "save" them. It happened to me and I can tell you I felt like an outcast and felt people thought I was nuts until I realized that it's not my job to wake people up. I'm not here for that.

I do believe that I am here to be a part of the people that raise the vibration of the planet to the point that others start to awaken without me doing anything aside from being me and keeping my vibration high.

This awakening process will happen to a person when they ready to deal with the information and if they aren't ready then all "stuff" you tell them means nothing because they are still plugged to the matrix and part of the system.

Here's a short clip of the movie The Matrix that explains what I'm trying to say.

MXQozTxQSiE

My suggestion: don't bother with other people. I know that may sound harsh but trust me, you will see what I mean eventually. Work on yourself and your spiritual growth. If people approach you with a question to something regarding what you know, then you spill the beans, but even then you can't divulge too much. You just plant a seed and watch what happens.

Good luck on your journey brother.

_original_Starlight
11th July 2011, 15:11
Hi there Yes we can all relate to it...but I fully agree with Camilo....after having tried it all.....EMBRACE them with LOVE!! Because everybody is entitled to their own "pace of walking"and
we all were there as well on that place of the path they are!! So stay in your own PLACE and POWER I am telling myself, and then have empathy for all!!
Love and Light and Might for Co-creation!!!
YOU are NOT ALONE
Starlight

RMorgan
11th July 2011, 21:48
I´be been thinking a lot about it for a long time...

At the moment, I don´t really feel like judging if anybody is awaken or not. If we judge others, we automatically allow others to judge us, which is not a good thing.

I really feel that I know some things that most people don´t, but who knows...Maybe I´m wrong! There are so many possibilities...

I have about six really good friends and all of them are different from each other. Some of them resonate with some of my visions and point of views about the world. Some of them, don´t.

The important thing for me is to respect everybody. Everybody has good qualities and we must learn how to admire and respect these qualities, instead of judging if they are awaken or not.

In fact, what´s the definition of being awaken? Does it mean we are right and the others are wrong? Is it supposed to be another kind of segregation and prejudice?

Besides, could any of us be 100% sure that we are indeed awaken? Is there a possibility that we´ve being also manipulated by the "alternative media", which is not that "alternative" anymore?

Could we really be 100% sure that the internet is a free territory, or if it´s not, could we be sure that all information we´re receiving right now could have been deliberately spread to confuse?

You know, my best friend, is a guy that someone could easily label as an "average joe". He has a full time regular job, watches a lot of television, has very conventional points of view about the world, he trusts the mainstream press and these kinds of things. However, he´s such a nice, gentle and generous kind of guy, someone you can trust your life to.

Please guys, let´s think about the definition of love, instead of trying to separate who´s awaken or not! Most of the time, judging others just separates us from our other fellows human beings, which are ALL amazing beings from their own nature!

I´ve been trough hard times, like most of us, and I´ve being judged and labeled my whole life, simply for being "different". Right now, I just think that labeling others just takes us further away from the truth.

I feel different indeed, but who doesn´t?

In my opinion, if we are trying to "ascend" and to reach a higher consciousness, we must be humble. Literally everybody has something amazing to teach us! By separating us from others because of judgment, we are just doing the same thing that a skeptic does; We refuse to respect, evaluate and learn from different points of view, consequently, we refuse to understand the human race as a whole!

I know, life is hard sometimes, but if you consider yourself to be awake, you must know that is just your point of view. Another person might look at you and say that you are the one who´s sleeping, that you´re refusing to see the reality, that you´re just fantasizing to find yourself a way out from the society. In the end, could you really be wise enough to tell who is right or wrong?

There are so many topics on this amazing forum, like nibiru, 2012 apocalypse, massive ascension, and lots of other things that just might not become true! What if it´s all a huge hoax? A huge distraction to some even bigger agenda? What if the "alternative media" is just the mainstream media reinvented and fragmented? Then, your "average joe" neighbor might be considered the "awaken" and you might be considered "asleep"... There is always a possibility.

Love, guys! Think about the nature of this word! We´re are all brothers and the universe is an immense brotherhood!

Yes, we are different, just like anyone else.

Cheers,

Raf. :)

_original_Starlight
11th July 2011, 23:48
Yes Raf thanks like we are UNIQUE like any body else!!

Starlight

buckminster fuller
11th July 2011, 23:55
Having an open mind and being awaken are two different things in my view. The later requires I guess a work to be done on a quite long term. Having an open mind is state dependent, being awaken just is.. if you get me.I guess that to get one closer to awakening (are we all talking about enlightenment here ?) one need to open his mind to infinite possibilities, and I personaly do not know anyone being there. So we shouldn't, anyway, be too quick to judge others that are either being subjected to a consensus that is imposed upon them by several means, or, and I'm thinking about older people, have simply evolved in their own timeline, and for many have manifested an open mind but through different subjects and actions. It takes a lot to get alternative views of the world out in the world. It brings fear of the unknown with it, and most of people will simply shut down their listening internal devices and avoid the confrontation to this xeno-idea.
Many great minds have proved that humility is a step toward greatness. We know alternative knowledge is a touchy subject for many, let us use an extra-touch to try to get others to think broader.

Peace

Carolin
12th July 2011, 00:47
The inability for those around me to see the world as I do used to frustrate the crap out of me!!!!!!!! Then I read "Power vs Force" by Dr David Hawkins and it made me understand that all was right with the world. Everyone is right where they should be. We all perceive the world differently....depending what level we are vibrating at.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wag91fEJIEg

Davidallany
12th July 2011, 13:12
Why is it that TPTB don't want to awake, and don't want their sweet dream to end?

3zWh11S7E-I&feature=grec_index

Tony
12th July 2011, 13:41
We have become familiar with sleep.
Are we awake yet?
We are aware yes.
Much work to do.

stdante
12th July 2011, 14:12
I have been the outsider in every group I was ever in all my life, so I don't notice anything different.

I was IN the group less then 2 years ago :sleep:
now I feel like Tom Hanks in Cast Away :rain:

king anthony
12th July 2011, 14:18
We have become familiar with sleep. Are we awake yet? We are aware yes. Much work to do.

Are most (including here) “awake” – no. Are some of the most aware – at best, partially. Much work to do – I say, it appears that it would be easier to move an ocean with one’s hands.

greybeard
12th July 2011, 14:21
Does my heart good to see videos of Dr Hawkins and Osho appearing.

Regards Chris

Ps a lot of this thread is influenced by his Dr Hawkins "work"

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?860-Enlightenment-The-Ego-what-is-it-How-to-transcend-it.

Camilo
12th July 2011, 15:49
Well, perhaps some of you may be interested in visiting this blog, where the focus is on being awake and ready to ascend...
http://comptedesaintgermainsblog.blogspot.com

WhiteFeather
12th July 2011, 22:13
Why is it that TPTB don't want to awake, and don't want their sweet dream to end?

3zWh11S7E-I&feature=grec_index

Wow, This simply blew my mind, And I Thank You for sharing this.

motherlove
12th July 2011, 23:22
Funny our way of seeing. If you don't loose your mind in the process you may end up with a whole one. I've been studying politics, religion, conspiracies, history (the alternate version) education, science and law for years and they are all a waste of time in my humble opinion. To me it seems to all boil down to one thing. We took someone elses word for it. Then we made it fact rather than someones opinion. Now we have to abide by it because there seems to be no alternative. If there was a viable alternative people would listen with both ears I'm sure. If we all invested in free energy technology like we do lottery tickets we would change things significantly in short time without asking permission from the ones that form the opinions we live by. If we all got behind the people who have a greater sense of integrity in lifting up mankind like we do the Pope or the Royals we would change the world for the better now. Nothing can be hidden when we all stand in the light. I don't know the whole truth of it all but I remain open to the experience. Best Wishes

Lord Sidious
13th July 2011, 00:52
Funny our way of seeing. If you don't loose your mind in the process you may end up with a whole one. I've been studying politics, religion, conspiracies, history (the alternate version) education, science and law for years and they are all a waste of time in my humble opinion. To me it seems to all boil down to one thing. We took someone elses word for it. Then we made it fact rather than someones opinion. Now we have to abide by it because there seems to be no alternative. If there was a viable alternative people would listen with both ears I'm sure. If we all invested in free energy technology like we do lottery tickets we would change things significantly in short time without asking permission from the ones that form the opinions we live by. If we all got behind the people who have a greater sense of integrity in lifting up mankind like we do the Pope or the Royals we would change the world for the better now. Nothing can be hidden when we all stand in the light. I don't know the whole truth of it all but I remain open to the experience. Best Wishes

I disagree. Those topics are worthy of study.
View them as wood for the steam engine.
They are fuel to get you to your destination, but you can't without the journey.

Tigressa
13th July 2011, 01:47
I do many of those things. That doesn't mean I am not awake. Being aware as Inelia has said means placing yourself in a dark place (like a school) can be a gesture of willingness to bring light in to those same areas. I tell my 3 year old when I drop him off at childcare to remember to show his love & light to the other kids during the day. I shop (carefully) in supermarkets, this also connects me to people in my immediate community. It matters that you are mindful, I think your most of your ideas are intelligent in that respect, but I can't agree that being that using mac makes me asleep. Being awake is not about outward form, it's about inner vibration. I can't not be aware of other dimensions, or the power of the light because I vote either!


Like Lord Sidious I have always been the outsider, so for me its the norm, but I do know what you mean. But I feel that people who say they are "awake" use this term far to loosely when in fact they are just as comatose as the ones they are trying to re-educate.

Some fine examples are;

If you are using a govt controlled / monitored operating system ie, windows & mac.
If you shop in supermarkets,
If you vote for a main party,
If you follow any form of religion,
Going into defence mode,
Sending your children to an english medium school,
Believing anything that fits into your bubble,
Agreeing to a contract,
Not helping the needy,
Paying taxes,
Accepting everything is a law, because that's what you are told
etc etc etc

Basically, doing everything that everyone else does but with a slightly different view does not make folk, should I say "Awake"

Endless
13th July 2011, 02:48
i am very new to this so please forgive me
for me waking has been a turn from judgement of others to judgement of myself
as i looked within and tried to be honest about what i saw my vision of the world changed /is changing
most of the bad i used to see in people was me coloring them in with my faulty perception
i find the change amazing i find all the people amazing
if a non spiritual person like me can get caught up in this journey then i think all can
at least thats what i hope

lslimerick
13th July 2011, 02:57
Completely get your question, when i was growing up at home, I also felt like I was the one looking in the window at the rest of my family, I just didnt belong, although it was nothing I experienced from them, just me. Now I am really comfortable with that, I still dont quiet fit in and I just hit 40, but they love me anyway. My family housed me on this planet and supported me to get on this awakening journey, once it was time, I left. I do not believe I am of them. I am the only one that left home and country as soon as I could, so have had them in my life but at a distance, which works for all of us. I think we are all waking up, some of us have removed the sleep from our eyes, but I think its a journey and we make it together at different times, levels etc and its all ok, it is all within the perfect divine plan. Not everyone here on 3D Earth will choose to awaken this time around for ascension and that is ok too.

I think what you are experiencing is perfectly natural - amongts us outside/insiders :-). And I think its pretty cool that we are uniting at this particular part of our journey and no longer have to apologize for our madness. Stay true to you, hold your truth, shine love and light and you will effect the awakening with the people around you, its universal law, just dont feel you have to force it or apologize for it, just own it and live it and your light will effect change naturally....thanks for your question...
PS: I should add, that my older brother now has started to admit similar things to me, he was always weird hehe as only older brothers can be, I knew that he was the same as me, he just didnt remember at all and now its just starting for him....thats why I always felt closer to him! So dont assume that because they are different to you, that they are not different (confussed yet), they are also here on their own mission, may not be the same one as yours, so they seem different (me thinks anyway)...xxxxx

WhiteFeather
13th July 2011, 14:25
i am very new to this so please forgive me
for me waking has been a turn from judgement of others to judgement of myself
as i looked within and tried to be honest about what i saw my vision of the world changed /is changing
most of the bad i used to see in people was me coloring them in with my faulty perception
i find the change amazing i find all the people amazing
if a non spiritual person like me can get caught up in this journey then i think all can
at least thats what i hope

Well Said, My Gratitude.

phillipbbg
13th July 2011, 14:50
I am a part of Gods dream..... am I awake or am I awake within a dream....

Also I can hold a single drop of water in my hand which is an ocean at an elemental level.... so I can move oceans with my hands...
it all comes down to your point of view which of course is you choice (free will)

In the mean time, I will continue to be constantly surprised, inspired and humbled by the ways of the human race at this moment in time.... of which I might ad I am part of by choice and duty.

Phoenix
13th July 2011, 15:57
I realised something was terribly wrong with societies thinking at the age of 4. When I was 8 I would gaze up at the stars and weep as I was convinced I had been dropped off onto the wrong planet :hurt:
I remembered life to be harmonious and this timeframe of Earth certainly wasn’t. :fencing:

Life is harsh here and I decided when I was 8 that although social consciousness is topsey turvy and upside-down, I would not allow it to suppress my joyful and hopeful nature. Everyone has an inner radiant beauty (beyond survival instincts) and I do what I can each day encouraging this greatness in myself and others. This also involves heaps of forgiveness towards myself as well as others understanding that when we are in a ‘limited program’ we know not what we do, (it isn’t personal) - Ignorance is forgivable - it is gaining the wisdom that's important. This is how I have survived, knowing one day harmony will blossom as humanity awakens to their spiritual greatness. :grouphug:

Wow - You really know how to weave those words. I'm grateful for seeing that! :grouphug:

-Phoenix

Phoenix
13th July 2011, 16:12
Like Lord Sidious I have always been the outsider, so for me its the norm, but I do know what you mean. But I feel that people who say they are "awake" use this term far to loosely when in fact they are just as comatose as the ones they are trying to re-educate.

Some fine examples are;

If you are using a govt controlled / monitored operating system ie, windows & mac.
If you shop in supermarkets,
If you vote for a main party,
If you follow any form of religion,
Going into defence mode,
Sending your children to an english medium school,
Believing anything that fits into your bubble,
Agreeing to a contract,
Not helping the needy,
Paying taxes,
Accepting everything is a law, because that's what you are told
etc etc etc

Basically, doing everything that everyone else does but with a slightly different view does not make folk, should I say "Awake"

I'm young so please excuse my naivety, but can you elaborate on a few of your points?

I'm interested in the following comments:
govt controlled OP system
defence mode
paying taxes
agreeing to a contract

I'm asking because I'd like to know how: to use a non-gov controlled computer, some way you don't pay taxes, some way you agree to zero contracts (they're everywhere)

Much appreciated,

-Phoenix

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When the people around us see the peace and happiness we exude amidst the chaos and fear

How, if I may ask, do you do this? I find it quite difficult.

-Phoenix

Phoenix
13th July 2011, 16:40
Many great minds have proved that humility is a step toward greatness.

I'm really interested to know... which minds?

-Phoenix

taizen
13th July 2011, 17:15
I'm the same as Lord Sid, Been the outsider all my life, although interestingly of late I have found people are waking up and I have had quite a few people wanting to ask me questions and give them information as to where to get information.
I usually test the water in conversation, if I get a reaction that indicates they think that aliens and UFOs etc are all a big joke, I just leave it and join in with whatever boring mundane topic they wish to chat about, if they take an interest i start gently, asking what they think of Roswell or all the UFO reports, or something like that. I don't think you can go in all guns blazing, it scares them off I say a little bit and then shut up and let them think about it, inevitably they ask me questions when they see me again.

For me, when I wanted so desperately to help people with their health, I became a certified Nutritionist. My goal was to have a PhD in Naturopathy. Well, the more I learned, the more frustrated I became because the people who wanted my help were the same ones who would disregard my information and tell me "well, my DOCTOR told me to take PILLS and to stay away from natural remedies.' UUUUHHHHGGG! I was so D*** frustrated. I then started my journey on 'waking' up. I began to realize, MY TRUTH was vastly different from the person next to me. I found truth to be in the eye of the beholder. I came up with this analogy:
I have in my hand a 1 oz. gold nugget. Pure gold. I go around with the nugget displayed in the center of my open palm.
I come up to a random person and tell them, 'You are welcome to have this nugget'
They don't take it; looking at me like i'm crazy and walk away.
I walk up to another person, 'I have a gold nugget, please take it'.
They tell me 'that is a fake, i know real gold and that is not real gold'.
I keep walking and trying to give the nugget away. I receive the same result-no one takes the nugget.
Finally, i find a person sitting there, by themself and I look down and see a nugget. They have their own nugget. We then share our stories, smile and continue on our journey, but this time I have a friend.
Moral of the story? You cannot force someone into receiving a gift when they are not able to receive it- their door will open when they turn the handle.

I shared my nugget with you because you opened the door. :)

Phoenix
13th July 2011, 17:23
Why is it that TPTB don't want to awake, and don't want their sweet dream to end?

3zWh11S7E-I&feature=grec_index

Wow, This simply blew my mind, And I Thank You for sharing this.

Ditto. Holy smokes, most valuable thirteen minutes and fifty seconds I've spent in awhile.

-Phoenix

WhiteFeather
13th July 2011, 17:31
Why is it that TPTB don't want to awake, and don't want their sweet dream to end?

3zWh11S7E-I&feature=grec_index

Wow, This simply blew my mind, And I Thank You for sharing this.

Ditto. Holy smokes, most valuable thirteen minutes and fifty seconds I've spent in awhile.

-Phoenix

Amazing Person, i agree. Wow

Bryn ap Gwilym
13th July 2011, 17:34
phoenix

Hi


I'm young so please excuse my naivety, but can you elaborate on a few of your points?

I'm interested in the following comments:
govt controlled OP system
defence mode
paying taxes
agreeing to a contract

I'm asking because I'd like to know how: to use a non-gov controlled computer, some way you don't pay taxes, some way you agree to zero contracts (they're everywhere)

Govt controlled OS = m/soft & apple. Any priority Software ie, eula files & hardware.
Research the unsung freedom fighter ;) Richard Stallman (http://stallman.org/) (rms) & GNU (http://www.gnu.org/) / FSF (http://www.fsf.org/) for a better answer & to which OS that you should be using. I myself use a GNU operating system "Free, as in Freedom".
If there are any coders on here, perhaps they can give you some advice onto which OS or distro will be best for your needs. gNewSense (http://www.gnewsense.org/static/homepage/) is just one of many that may tickle your fancy.
Note. Ubuntu (http://www.ubuntu.com/), Mint (http://www.linuxmint.com/), Fedora (http://fedoraproject.org/) are just a few the others swear by.

Defence mode. When ever their belief system is questioned they go into defence mode, by either attacking the person(s) who dare challenge their doctrine or will completely ignore that person.

Paying Taxes. Fiat money, that you earn is yours, but the govt & banks rob it off you by convincing you that it goes back into the system & to pay the debt illusion that doesn't really exist. By agreeing to pay taxes you are in essence guilty of the debt illusion.
One of the other posters on here who understands the economy will give you a better explanation or you can look through the lawful rebellion (http://www.lawfulrebellion.org.uk/) website.

Agreeing to a contract. Ie tv license, census, court hearing, anything that results in you handing over your power to another person [sic]
The above website will help.

Beloved
13th July 2011, 17:50
Neither cast your pearls before swine, lest they become trampled! With supernal love, understand that everyone is on a different position along the curve of awakening. But uppermost, try to holdfast not only to your truths, but also to the sublime understanding that the same loving cosmic energy that helped you to awaken, will also do the same for them - should they make that choice. Some are late bloomers, but ever and anon, we are merely microcosms of the macrocosm! Whether it is obvious to them (or you), it is impossible to be in the presence of light and not be affected by it. So continue on being that LIGHT and let spirit do the rest!! Thank you for posting this and Namaste!

Phoenix
13th July 2011, 18:32
phoenix

Hi


I'm young so please excuse my naivety, but can you elaborate on a few of your points?

I'm interested in the following comments:
govt controlled OP system
defence mode
paying taxes
agreeing to a contract

I'm asking because I'd like to know how: to use a non-gov controlled computer, some way you don't pay taxes, some way you agree to zero contracts (they're everywhere)

Govt controlled OS = m/soft & apple. Any priority Software ie, eula files & hardware.
Research the unsung freedom fighter ;) Richard Stallman (http://stallman.org/) (rms) & GNU (http://www.gnu.org/) / FSF (http://www.fsf.org/) for a better answer & to which OS that you should be using. I myself use a GNU operating system "Free, as in Freedom".
If there are any coders on here, perhaps they can give you some advice onto which OS or distro will be best for your needs. gNewSense (http://www.gnewsense.org/static/homepage/) is just one of many that may tickle your fancy.
Note. Ubuntu (http://www.ubuntu.com/), Mint (http://www.linuxmint.com/), Fedora (http://fedoraproject.org/) are just a few the others swear by.

Defence mode. When ever their belief system is questioned they go into defence mode, by either attacking the person(s) who dare challenge their doctrine or will completely ignore that person.

Paying Taxes. Fiat money, that you earn is yours, but the govt & banks rob it off you by convincing you that it goes back into the system & to pay the debt illusion that doesn't really exist. By agreeing to pay taxes you are in essence guilty of the debt illusion.
One of the other posters on here who understands the economy will give you a better explanation or you can look through the lawful rebellion (http://www.lawfulrebellion.org.uk/) website.

Agreeing to a contract. Ie tv license, census, court hearing, anything that results in you handing over your power to another person [sic]
The above website will help.

OS, and defence mode - i hear ya loud and clear.

But the last two, I get it - just, if you don't mind me asking, do you not partake in either of those things? If true, which land is it you live on - I'm mighty jealous.

But, if you were just saying how people do these things unwittingly while claiming they are "awakened," and you don't agree with that mindset - then I get you. Thanks for your comments.

-Phoenix

Bryn ap Gwilym
13th July 2011, 19:11
Phoenix

Shwmae.

Dw i'n byw yng Nghumru..;)


But, if you were just saying how people do these things unwittingly while claiming they are "awakened," and you don't agree with that mindset - then I get you. Thanks for your comments.

Yes.
So in essence I'm hypothetically speaking, for I pay tax every time I buy something, but I only buy what I need & I refuse to play ball as much as I can. I refuse as many contracts as I can & only agree to the ones which will benefit me, ie, Internet connection. I refuse to own a car, a driving licence, a passport etc etc.

WhiteFeather
22nd July 2011, 02:54
I cant help notice that so many people are still so programmed like sheep with the idea that modern medicine is the only answer to any illnesses, cancers etc. and that hollistics are a lost cause and dont work. People rely on Doctors support way way too much and constantly keep taking the poisons that these drug dealers keep dishing out to these sleeping souls. This hurts me so bad, and insults my intelligence to a point where it seems like there will be no end to this madness... people have no clue and live with the veil pulled over their eyes forever shut. They have to deprogram sooner or later i hope. I can see right thru the lies and eyes of the medical industry, i feel many of these doctors should be arrested and the medical system that teaches this B/S needs to be shut down ASAP. Hope it will end soon. This is my wish, to wake the people up real real soon. The answer to curing cancer grows from right under our feet. Dam Im Annoyed. Sorry for venting!

Sesan
22nd July 2011, 03:57
I have to agree that I'm looked at as the odd one from co-workers, family, friends, etc. Most of the time as the recipient of harmless jokes and fun. Now with that said, it's funny that once an opportunity presents itself, to be one-on-one with some of these people, let's just say the cracks soon become exposed. I have had people come and talk to me with things many refuse to talk about when others are around. This has followed me all my life. I simply listen, direct if possible, and plant a seed or two. It is fascinating to watch those seeds begin to grow. The past five years in particular, have provided me with enough conversations to fill a small book. I would have never thought many of my closest friends and family have experienced psychic abilities, abductions, UFO sightings, and many have started their own recent awakenings. I don't have to go looking, people keep coming to me almost daily. Times are changing!! We here at Avalon are all pieces of this ever changing puzzle. I am honoured to be part of it and am anxiously awaiting the next chapter.

Keep the energy positive. It's contagious!

:lever:
11:11

etheric underground
22nd July 2011, 04:19
Welcome to the OUTSIDERS !!
We are all resonating to forums such as this to re establish unity and remembrance of our own
uniqueness.
I too have been the one they have called strange, weird or freak as I was able to foretell peoples
future as a child.... It scared the **** out of people when the words that was uttered from a 7 year old
produced the outcome I expressed. It raised fear and banishment from others.
Ive grown strong from my uniqueness, I have a better understanding of why I felt I didnt fit in and the reason
Ive always wanted to go to my home in the stars. When you answer the question who am I???
You start to rekindle the truth for the small percentage of us who contracted themselves to this slave planet
in the hope of raising the forgotten back to a level playing field.
PLease believe that your being different is felt far and wide across Gaia and will soon become the norm dear wayshower..

Humble Janitor
22nd July 2011, 04:52
My motto right now is that I Don't Give A ****.

As harsh as it sounds?

I'm doing what I know best and that alone captivates people. Whether or not it helps them awaken is totally up to them.

modwiz
22nd July 2011, 05:23
Welcome to the OUTSIDERS !!
We are all resonating to forums such as this to re establish unity and remembrance of our own
uniqueness.
I too have been the one they have called strange, weird or freak as I was able to foretell peoples
future as a child.... It scared the **** out of people when the words that was uttered from a 7 year old
produced the outcome I expressed. It raised fear and banishment from others.
Ive grown strong from my uniqueness, I have a better understanding of why I felt I didnt fit in and the reason
Ive always wanted to go to my home in the stars. When you answer the question who am I???
You start to rekindle the truth for the small percentage of us who contracted themselves to this slave planet
in the hope of raising the forgotten back to a level playing field.
PLease believe that your being different is felt far and wide across Gaia and will soon become the norm dear wayshower..

I love your Paris Hilton avatar.

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/customavatars/avatar7414_1.gif

Dawn
22nd July 2011, 06:09
A truly awakened one finally comes into acceptance of others with their personal timing and agenda in place. It is not 'awake' to 'try' to awaken others. Just by being you ... you effect everyone around you. It is not what you do, or what you say, or especially what you try to change that has an effect. All of this comes from the inability to accept what is with total equanimity. If this seems wrong to you, then you are only half baked.... or halfway up the mountain. Real love and awakeness means that you will finally see everything as perfect and OK as it is. When this finally happens, people will come up to you and ASK for your knowledge or insight WITHOUT you're attempting to change them. It is the very need for you to awaken them or change them which causes them to resist you. When the student is ready the teacher will appear... this means that if you are trying to teach someone who is not ready then you are not a teacher in step with the love and wholeness of consciousness. And... don't worry, this wisdom comes with time. You will find all truly wise awakened ones are following this way of being. You are right on schedule.... and trying to change everything is simply one phase of awakening which must be transcended. I know... I have been there.

Star
22nd July 2011, 13:38
White Feather,
Thanks for the video. Bryn, thanks so much for the reply that made it clearer to me also and to the links and yes Abundant Traveler, we have all come here in different stages of unfoldment and we must remember that we were once asleep like all the others and were able to exit the Matrix and now we are here. For me, it is to continue to be awake and aware and keep learning. If the rest of the world seems asleep to me, I forgive that because I was once there. Those who are meant to awake will be nudged by something happening to their comfort zone that will turn them to look inside and maybe listen to the guidance that will start the "scales to fall from their eyes" also. I feel we are growing in numbers and am grateful for forums such as this one and others for being available. Kindness, love and support are key and that happens when you start to realize we are all ONE!

Love & Light,
Star