Planet X/Nibiru/Tyche/Hercolobus/Elenin

[crosby]

Mandala, thanks for the info., but there seems to be some missing information, or is that just me?????
regards, corson

[Mandala]

Sorry,I apologize. I thought those who liked #2 might wish to see the others on you tube. I didn't post the entire series. I'll make up for my poor judgment.
Here is number 1 of 7.


http://www.youtube.c. om/watch?v=iXyVoe-bVqc&feature=related

number 2 of 7


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T6tqjw4jDYs&feature=related

number 3 of 7


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0cffQRcoeZI&feature=related

number 4 of 7


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xRbBH5xEOgk&feature=related

number 5 of 7


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zu8s9UeDbG0&feature=related

number 6 of 7


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ytghjNqJsbA&feature=related

last but not least, 7 of 7


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hd323MFkHg4&feature=related

[Mandala]

Mandala, thanks for the info., but there seems to be some missing information, or is that just me?????
regards, corson

Sorry corson about not posting all the videos. I have them all here. I hope you enjoy them. Have a wonderful week.

[Snowbird]

This question, Where Is Planet X, is soon to become very controversial.

I have heard during a very recent audio interview on Veritas, Stewart Swerdlow stated that Planet X or Nibiru no longer exists. He states that is was purposely destroyed by weaponry.

We needn't worry however, because there is now the purported threat from Elenin.

I don't know what is the truth. And, I've decided not to worry about it all.

Thanks for the videos. This info is very interesting.

[Lord Sidious]

This question, Where Is Planet X, is soon to become very controversial.

I have heard during a very recent audio interview on Veritas, Stewart Swerdlow stated that Planet X or Nibiru no longer exists. He states that is was purposely destroyed by weaponry.

We needn't worry however, because there is now the purported threat from Elenin.

I don't know what is the truth. And, I've decided not to worry about it all.

Thanks for the videos. This info is very interesting.

I don't know who or what could destroy a planet with weaponry, but I know it wasn't me.
Ever since those damn rebels destroyed my Death Star, I have been thinking about a third one, but I don't have one yet.

http://images.wikia.com/starwars/images/e/ee/DeathStar2.jpg

[irishspirit]

As I always say, make of it what you will. I am responsible for no part of this whatsoever. Just to make that clear, neither the title nor the footage.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2wW-JEMbtvA&feature=player_embedded


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6mWyMmvXFqg&feature=player_embedded

[crosby]

thanks Irishspirit. the one thing i noticed is that the other passengers don't seem to notice anything different. they're just sitting there riding the bus.......isn't that weird? if i saw two suns, i would be making a whole lot of noise about it. great vid., leaves some room for speculation, but it also keeps the mind moving forward.
regards, corson

[John101]

Best break out the sun factor 50. :cool:

[InCiDeR]

Well, all I can say is that Bangkok is a rather big city 11,971,000 inhabitants. I do belive that more than two people have a cellphone...

[irishspirit]

Best break out the sun factor 50. :cool:


You'd have to double that for two suns.

[LightningResistor]

Interesting footage. One thing to note is that the smaller light (the one on the left) is surrounded by a haze (maybe cloud cover, maybe smog?). I'm not sure what to make of this, but will check back later for a potential explanation. :)

[Swami]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DGvVEzjmAdM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g5336AO-YdY

[Champion the Wonderhorse]

thanks Irishspirit. the one thing i noticed is that the other passengers don't seem to notice anything different. they're just sitting there riding the bus.......isn't that weird? if i saw two suns, i would be making a whole lot of noise about it. great vid., leaves some room for speculation, but it also keeps the mind moving forward.
regards, corson

Thanks irishspirit

Or maybe the Thais aready know about it. It's a pity no-one from Thailand is on this forum to clarify that.
Its definately not fake. As the bus is moving you can clearly see the second sun behind the pylon wires.

Here is a news clip from last year. My Thai is very bad so I haven't got a clue what they are saying.
Some would say that this is a sundog which is an optical effect for crystal ice in the atmosphere. If so then its fooled the Thai news channel. But its funny its happening in Thailand.

20JUN10 THAILAND ; Breaking News at 5 PM ; TV Ch7 ; 3 and 4 Suns and UFO at Pattaya

x24KvI6t3f4


Heres an article from News.com.au

Tatooine's twin suns - coming to a planet near you just as soon as Betelgeuse explodes

* By Claire Connelly
* From: news.com.au
* January 19, 2011 12:12PM


Read more: http://www.news.com.au/technology/sci-tech/tatooines-twin-suns-coming-to-a-planet-near-you-just-as-soon-as-betelgeuse-explodes/story-fn5fsgyc-1225991009247#ixzz1FHZjL5hx

* Betelgeuse losing mass
* Explosion will create "new sun"
* May be set for 2012 appearance

IT'S the ultimate experience for Star Wars fans - staring forlornly off into the distance as twin suns sink into the horizon.

Yet it's not just a figment of George Lucas's imagination - twin suns are real. And here's the big news - they could be coming to Earth.

Yes, any day now we see a second sun light up the sky, if only for a matter of weeks.

The infamous red super-giant star in Orion’s nebula - Betelgeuse - is predicted to go gangbusters and the impending super-nova may reach Earth before 2012, and when it does, all of our wildest Star Wars dreams will come true.

The second biggest star in the universe is losing mass, a typical indication that a gravitation collapse is occurring.

When that happens, we'll get our second sun, according to Dr Brad Carter, Senior Lecturer of Physics at the University of Southern Queensland.

“This old star is running out of fuel in its centre”, Dr Carter said.

“This fuel keeps Betelgeuse shining and supported. When this fuel runs out the star will literally collapse in upon itself and it will do so very quickly.”

When this happens a giant explosion will occur, tens of millions of times brighter than the sun.

The bad news is, it could also happen in a million years. But who's counting?

The important thing is, one day, night will become day for several weeks on Earth.

“This is the final hurrah for the star,” says Dr Carter.

“It goes bang, it explodes, it lights up - we’ll have incredible brightness for a brief period of time for a couple of weeks and then over the coming months it begins to fade and then eventually it will be very hard to see at all.”

The interwebs is being flooded with doomsday theories saying the impending supernova confirms the Mayan calendar’s prediction of the Armageddon in 2012.

These conspiracies aren’t helped by the word “Betelgeuse” being associated with the devil.

Though it is a derivation of the Arabic phrase “yad Al Jauza” meaning the “hand of Al-Jauza” referring to a mysterious woman that controls the order of the universe, it hasn’t stopped some people from clearing out their bunkers and stocking up on tinned food.

Far from being a sign of the apocalypse, according to Dr Carter the supernova will provide Earth with elements necessary for survival and continuity.

“When a star goes bang, the first we will observe of it is a rain of tiny particles called nuetrinos,” says Dr Carter.

“They will flood through the Earth and bizarrely enough, even though the supernova we see visually will light up the night sky, 99 per cent of the energy in the supernova is released in these particles that will come through our bodies and through the Earth with absolutely no harm whatsoever.”

Stars such as the supernova produce elements that are critical to life on Earth.

Quite literally, the whole of Earth and our solar system is made of star stuff, including most of the heavy elements of the Periodic Table.

“It literally makes things like gold, silver - all the heavy elements - even things like uranium….a star like Betelgeuse is instantly forming for us all sorts of heavy elements and atoms that our own Earth and our own bodies have from long past supernovi,” Dr carter said.

Some experts have speculated Betelgeuse’s explosion may cause a neutron star or result in the formation of a black hole approximately 1300 light years from Earth, but Dr Carter says it could go either way.

“There’s a reasonably even chance of a neutron star or a black hole”, he says.

“If it were me, I’d suspect it would more likely become a black hole at 20 solar masses.”

Read more: http://www.news.com.au/technology/sci-tech/tatooines-twin-suns-coming-to-a-planet-near-you-just-as-soon-as-betelgeuse-explodes/story-fn5fsgyc-1225991009247#ixzz1FHZFgRBW

[crosby]

Champion the Wonderhorse, i didn't realize that there was so much info about this. thanks so much.
regards, corson

[Arrowwind]

The photo in post #7 looks like some kind of exposure error. The "sun" on the top reveals lines across it of the trees in the foreground of the real son

[mrmalco]

Thanks for the vids. I've seen partly doubled-up sun effects near the horizon when there banded cloud. I wished the camera had been running two more seconds, or the edit had delayed for two more seconds. The cut came exactly at the moment when we would find if it was an optical cloud effect separating out an inverted reflected image.This is a possible reason that the 'sun' in the cloud not as bright as the other. That Thai bus one though ... danged if I can figure it out!
Thanks - great thread. Then there's the Betelgeuse thing. Gave me visions just thinking about it. What a ride! ... with the universe doing stuff at every level.
God - as they say - is great!

[Ross]

Hello all,

Here are some links in regards to Betelgeuse...

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?11537-Tatooine-s-twin-suns-coming-to-a-planet-near-you-just-as-soon-as-Betelgeuse-explode&p=103239&viewfull=1#post103239

And:

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?11537-Tatooine-s-twin-suns-coming-to-a-planet-near-you-just-as-soon-as-Betelgeuse-explode&p=103305&viewfull=1#post103305

Ross

[loveandgratitude]

I though that when nibaru appeared it would appear first in the very southern hemisphere. FIrst Tasmania??????

[Champion the Wonderhorse]

Champion the Wonderhorse, i didn't realize that there was so much info about this. thanks so much.
regards, corson

Thanks Corson.
I didn't either. I just got curious. I was put off by everyone saying it's all optical illusions, but too much of this is being seen all over the world now.
Isn't there an old Nostradamus prophecy about two suns being seen?

[Ruby L.]

Hi all,

I just came across this thread now and am actually in Bangkok for work.

I didn't see two suns yesterday, or the day before-- or ever. Just the one. I checked around for news here of two suns, but didn't come up with anything except for the video footage Irishspirit posted. I even asked a few Thais if they'd seen two suns in the last few days but only got some bemused looks.

To answer LighningResistor's post:

One thing to note is that the smaller light (the one on the left) is surrounded by a haze (maybe cloud cover, maybe smog?)

Yes, Bangkok is extremely smoggy. I was just remarking to a friend that I haven't seen blue skies here; it's always grey and hazy.

Except for the few days in the New Year, when most people had gone off for the holidays and there were hardly any cars around, there was happily some blue... but that's quite a rare occurrence here, sadly.

As for the other video from Channel 7 news-- I can help some with the translation. It's not perfect, and please don't quote me, because I had to guess some words as formal Thai (spoken in the news, for example) is quite a jump from colloquial Thai. Anyway, here goes:

"Yesterday we presented a story about three suns in Si Sa Ket. Today, we have a story of four suns, also reported from Si Sa Ket.

[Not exactly sure about this next sentence but I believe it says…] Yesterday it seemed like a strange occurrence but today, villagers believe it's something that really needs to be investigated by authorities.

Let's look at the four suns and see how it looks, viewers.
(flashes onto video footage of the suns) Yesterday, villagers reported seeing three suns up in the sky, from a train station in the province of Seesaket. Locals had recorded three suns yesterday and have been further puzzled today by four suns in the sky-- and several witness recorded the phenomenon around the same time, also from the train station.

It (the suns) has the shape of a coconut (with the fibres still on it), and they can easily and clearly be seen with the naked eye.

Naitung Suwong (sp?), a villager, is 86 years old, and believes that the phenomenon is a bad omen for things to come. Whether it has to do with the state of the world or outer space conditions, he's urging everyone to pull in together and do merit (religious ceremony) for our safety and protection.

(flashes to the Mr. Suwong and I wish I could understand what he's saying but his accent is hard to follow. Plus his lack of front teeth doesn't help. But I'm pretty sure he's continuing on the religious stance.)

Newscaster: This story really needs to be followed up by scientists/academics

It's a bit like what happened in Pattaya [beach town an hour out of Bangkok]
Yes, it was an unusual sighting in the sky, as well. A foreigner had a camera phone in his hand and was able to record the strange sighting in Laem Chabang [25 kms from Pattaya]

Let's take a look at that video clip taken by (so and so) from Finland. He'd gone to visit a parachuting club with his girlfriend in Laem Chabang and saw a UFO flying in the sky with great speed. It's shape looks somewhat like this picture we're showing you. (Flashes to still shot of UFO.) [I think the "somewhat" means the stillshot of the UFO from the actual recording being shown isn't clear.]

(Mr. Finland) took the footage with his mobile phone camera and when he played back the footage to his friends- they, too, immediately recognised something strange in the sky. He moved the camera's focus from his girlfriend and pointed it to the sky.

Slowing down the footage here shows that there really was a UFO flying by. We can guarantee that this clip hasn't been edited or fabricated in anyway.

As for the sighting of UFO's in the skies in Chiang Mai (city North of Thailand), householders contacted and passed on a photo to Channel 7 News of Chiang Mai with claims of it being a UFO. It was taken at 22:00 last night. The photo was looked at by Professor so and so of such and such department [Sorry! I just can't understand that part] and said that it wasn't a UFO or a comet or falling star, but was simply debris released from Russian satellites."

Hope that helps.

[Adrift]

Ever since those damn rebels destroyed my Death Star, I have been thinking about a third one, but I don't have one yet.

So you say!

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/223/512536610_b36c7a9963_z.jpg

[Lord Sidious]

Ever since those damn rebels destroyed my Death Star, I have been thinking about a third one, but I don't have one yet.

So you say!

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/223/512536610_b36c7a9963_z.jpg

Are you a bothan spy?

[Rufs]

Hi Mannela, very interesting thread, I now have my evening bundle .. Thank you!

I saw this on Jimmy Prophet titled:

The Planet X/Nibiru/ELEnin Brown Dwarf Event Timeline, 2011


http://www.youtube.com/user/bluebeard2011#p/u/4/XStBhbiPIzU

at 9:24 :)

So the whole site is therefore disinfo.

Have a good evening,

Rufs

[Rufs]

Hi Mannela, very interesting thread, I now have my evening bundle .. Thank you!

Sorry Mandala, I miss spelt your name. I saw the vid's - looks like disinfo to me. Symbols and Pyramids again.... just off.

Rufs

[Champion the Wonderhorse]

Thanks Ruby, it does help.

I laughed about the bemused looks, reminds me when I was there.

So there you have it. It's not widely known by the Thais. So its strange about the non-reaction from the Thais on the bus.

[passiglight]

Somewhere between Mars and Jupiter i'd say accoring to this quote :


Hi folks,, please can someone help me to comprehend the meaning of a line in a NASA statement regarding WISE...

I understand they are talking about the planet named TYCHE which is hypothesized to be in the Oort cloud..

But what i don't understand here is in amongst the list of things they have found,they make 2 references about a "dead star or a Brown dwarf

"So far, the mission's discoveries of previously unknown objects include an ultra-cold star or brown dwarf, 20 comets, 134 near-Earth objects (NEOs), and more than 33,000 asteroids in the main belt between Mars and Jupiter. "

In the first they say it's in the main belt between Mars and Jupiter,, then later they go on to say "The two bands used in the second sky coverage were designed to identify very small, cold stars (or brown dwarfs) -- which are much like planets larger than Jupiter, as Tyche is hypothesized to be. "

hERE IS THE LINK....

http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/WISE/news/wise20110218.html


and here is the full copy of text from that page


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Can WISE Find the Hypothetical 'Tyche'?
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Background

In November 2010, the scientific journal Icarus published a paper by astrophysicists John Matese and Daniel Whitmire, who proposed the existence of a binary companion to our sun, larger than Jupiter, in the long-hypothesized "Oort cloud" -- a faraway repository of small icy bodies at the edge of our solar system. The researchers use the name "Tyche" for the hypothetical planet. Their paper argues that evidence for the planet would have been recorded by the Wide-field Infrared Survey Explorer (WISE).

WISE is a NASA mission, launched in December 2009, which scanned the entire celestial sky at four infrared wavelengths about 1.5 times. It captured more than 2.7 million images of objects in space, ranging from faraway galaxies to asteroids and comets relatively close to Earth. Recently, WISE completed an extended mission, allowing it to finish a complete scan of the asteroid belt, and two complete scans of the more distant universe, in two infrared bands. So far, the mission's discoveries of previously unknown objects include an ultra-cold star or brown dwarf, 20 comets, 134 near-Earth objects (NEOs), and more than 33,000 asteroids in the main belt between Mars and Jupiter.

Following its successful survey, WISE was put into hibernation in February 2011. Analysis of WISE data continues. A preliminary public release of the first 14 weeks of data is planned for April 2011, and the final release of the full survey is planned for March 2012.

Frequently Asked Questions

Q: When could data from WISE confirm or rule out the existence of the hypothesized planet Tyche?

A: It is too early to know whether WISE data confirms or rules out a large object in the Oort cloud. Analysis over the next couple of years will be needed to determine if WISE has actually detected such a world or not. The first 14 weeks of data, being released in April 2011, are unlikely to be sufficient. The full survey, scheduled for release in March 2012, should provide greater insight. Once the WISE data are fully processed, released and analyzed, the Tyche hypothesis that Matese and Whitmire propose will be tested.

Q: Is it a certainty that WISE would have observed such a planet if it exists?

A: It is likely but not a foregone conclusion that WISE could confirm whether or not Tyche exists. Since WISE surveyed the whole sky once, then covered the entire sky again in two of its infrared bands six months later, WISE would see a change in the apparent position of a large planet body in the Oort cloud over the six-month period. The two bands used in the second sky coverage were designed to identify very small, cold stars (or brown dwarfs) -- which are much like planets larger than Jupiter, as Tyche is hypothesized to be.

Q: If Tyche does exist, why would it have taken so long to find another planet in our solar system?

A: Tyche would be too cold and faint for a visible light telescope to identify. Sensitive infrared telescopes could pick up the glow from such an object, if they looked in the right direction. WISE is a sensitive infrared telescope that looks in all directions.

Q: Why is the hypothesized object dubbed "Tyche," and why choose a Greek name when the names of other planets derive from Roman mythology?

A: In the 1980s, a different companion to the sun was hypothesized. That object, named for the Greek goddess "Nemesis," was proposed to explain periodic mass extinctions on the Earth. Nemesis would have followed a highly elliptical orbit, perturbing comets in the Oort Cloud roughly every 26 million years and sending a shower of comets toward the inner solar system. Some of these comets would have slammed into Earth, causing catastrophic results to life. Recent scientific analysis no longer supports the idea that extinctions on Earth happen at regular, repeating intervals. Thus, the Nemesis hypothesis is no longer needed. However, it is still possible that the sun could have a distant, unseen companion in a more circular orbit with a period of a few million years -- one that would not cause devastating effects to terrestrial life. To distinguish this object from the malevolent "Nemesis," astronomers chose the name of Nemesis's benevolent sister in Greek mythology, "Tyche."

JPL manages and operates the Wide-field Infrared Survey Explorer for NASA's Science Mission Directorate, Washington. The principal investigator, Edward Wright, is at UCLA. The mission was competitively selected under NASA's Explorers Program managed by the Goddard Space Flight Center, Greenbelt, Md. The science instrument was built by the Space Dynamics Laboratory, Logan, Utah, and the spacecraft was built by Ball Aerospace & Technologies Corp., Boulder, Colo. Science operations and data processing take place at the Infrared Processing and Analysis Center at the California Institute of Technology in Pasadena. Caltech manages JPL for NASA. More information is online at http://www.nasa.gov/wise, http://wise.astro.ucla.edu and http://www.jpl.nasa.gov/wise .


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I realise the point of this text is to explore the possibility of tyche and could WISE have found it,in the Oort cloud,,,,,,

BUT THIS ????????


So far, the mission's discoveries of previously unknown objects include an ultra-cold star or brown dwarf, 20 comets, 134 near-Earth objects (NEOs), and more than 33,000 asteroids in the main belt between Mars and Jupiter.


i just couldn't believe my eyes when they mentioned they have found a brown dwarf, inbetween mars and jupiter,,,,,,,because surley that must be Nibiru,, or Planet X, they are talking about !!!!


Please can someone with good cosmic knowledge look at this text and explain for me

[crosby]

Mandala, thanks for the info., but there seems to be some missing information, or is that just me?????
regards, corson

Sorry corson about not posting all the videos. I have them all here. I hope you enjoy them. Have a wonderful week.

ooooh, i didn't know that there were more vids. sorry, i just thought the guy left stuff out.......i'll go back and watch again. i was confused for a minute...
warmest regards, corson

[nearing]

An intriguing take on what could happen to our Sun and ourselves in 2012.

Could we see Two Suns in 5 Years? (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yFdBRWpytHo) (in 6 parts)

I recommend watching the above video before listening to the following Red Ice Creation interview of Marshall Masters.

Kolbrin Bible & Planet X (in 8 parts) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KAW1H7CPJMk&feature=youtube_gdata_player)

Summary:

Marshall Masters joins us to talk about the Kolbrin and the Kolbrin Bible in our first hour. The Kolbrin is compiled of manuscripts that was saved before the burning of Glastonbury Monastery 1184 AD and was safeguarded by a group called "The Culdians". We talk these preserved ancient records of the Egyptians and the Druids that seem to correlate information about catastrophe and passing by planetary bodies in the past.

Topics Discussed: The Kolbrin, Ancient Egyptian Celtic Text, Ancient Tales about Planet X, Solar Activity, Global Warming, Warming on Mars, Jupiter & Saturn, NASA, David Morrison, The Kolbrin Bible, Nibiru, Sitchin, The Destroyer & The Frightener, The Phonecians, Sesudah and Hanoch, The Ten Plagues of Egypt, The Hebrew Exodus, Moses, Suns of Fire, Celts, Rome, Atlantis, Gene Rodenberry and more.

In hour two we begin talking about more modern research on Planet X, like our Binary star System, "the Nemesis" that NASA also is now talking about. We go back to 2003 and ask what happened then, when Planet X was supposed to have come by. Marshall talks about Nancy Leider, Mark Hasselwood and his book Blindsided.

We also discuss some new developments around 2006 with the Telescope at the South Pole. We talk about disinformation attacks directed at him and his team that seem to originate from London, the main Banking center of the world. We talk about upcoming catastrophe, the Global Seed Vault in Svalbard, the Georgia Guide stones, The Elites and their survival attempts.

Marshall also talks about what he calls subtext messages and channeling of information and we do go into the unavoidable year 2012. If Planet X is coming, when will the guacamole will hit the fan? We end talking about how to best prepare in Marshall's view. from March 21, 2010

Personally, I feel he probably has the science right and it makes sense when considering the behavior of TPTW. What he doesn't offer is what to really do about it. But I prefer George Kavassilas' work for that (http://www.youtube.com/user/horusdownunder#p/c/3AAF11B7F5253C7B/0/IZDcn-LJNlo). GK's message is much more positive.

[Lord Sidious]

Ok, let's have a look shall we?




http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yFdBRWpytHo


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N3CHZHBEfhA


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=riK4mAtyX1E


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tsTkO6OPnLU


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MEMWf38di8w


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g_nc8JaHKxQ

[Teakai]

I haven't watched the videos yet, Nearing - I've already watched one lot of Kolbrin Bible one's today and I'm done in - but the subject reminded me of this.

Is there anyone here who can translate?
Two suns:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MJkurPs9smA

[Tuza]

I felt a little while back I came across a photo on a forum, someone took a photo that looked like two suns in the sky.

[nearing]

Thanks for putting hose all in one place, Lord Sidious!

Teakai, wow. I know there is one Chinese Avalonian and I will try to PM him to take a look. Very interesting.

[cayman]

I haven't watched the videos yet, Nearing - I've already watched one lot of Kolbrin Bible one's today and I'm done in - but the subject reminded me of this.

Is there anyone here who can translate?
Two suns:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MJkurPs9smA

This video was shot in Penghu county, TaiWan. http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&biw=1600&bih=973&gbv=2&q=penghu+county,+Taiwan&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=wl

the ´expert´ whom being interviewed in this video explained that this phenomenon is what the experts call "sun dogs"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sun_dog
http://www.google.com/images?hl=en&source=imghp&biw=1600&bih=973&q=sun+dogs&gbv=2&aq=f&aqi=g4g-s1g5&aql=&oq=

´cause it is a TV news, so it mumble many other pointless stuff.

That's all

[nearing]

Thank you for your time, Cayman!

I've seen Sundogs, I'd have to say this one looks like it was photo edited because they rarely look so 'solid'.

Not surprised.

again, thanks!

[Teakai]

This video was shot in Penghu county, TaiWan. http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&biw=1600&bih=973&gbv=2&q=penghu+county,+Taiwan&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=wl

the ´expert´ whom being interviewed in this video explained that this phenomenon is what the experts call "sun dogs"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sun_dog
http://www.google.com/images?hl=en&source=imghp&biw=1600&bih=973&q=sun+dogs&gbv=2&aq=f&aqi=g4g-s1g5&aql=&oq=

´cause it is a TV news, so it mumble many other pointless stuff.

That's all

Hi Cayman - thanks. I heard some people saying that it's rubbish that it's sun dogs. I haven't a clue what a sun dog is, so can't judge - so will look at the links you supplied :)

Edit to add
It didn't look like any 'sun dog' pictures at google images that I saw.

Norway spiral, anyone?

[nearing]

If you click on Cayman's google images link, there are photos of real Sun dogs. The Taiwainese video doesn't look like any of them. The '2nd sun' is very close to the 1st sun and it looks much more solid.

Hard to know what to believe.

[wolf_rt]

just found this on Cryptogon, my favourate alternative news site...

http://cryptogon.com/?p=20906

[Teakai]

Yeesh!! In yer face, Dude!!!


I cut and pasted this: "Betty is one of many variants of the old Hebrew name Elisabeth, usually spelled Elizabeth in English.

The name Elisabeth appears in the Bible (New Testament) as the name of the Virgin Mary's cousin and the mother of John the Baptist. It derives from the even older Hebrew name Elisheba, which means "God is my oath." "

From here: http://www.blurtit.com/q903311.html

So - if they're military patches - it's like they're saying that the soldiers are sacrifices to 'their' god - blood sacrifices.

Edit to add: I think that the Latin - primoris gravis ex occasus is saying - 'the best from the west'

[Caterpillars Lens]

http://cryptogon.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/nrol49.jpg

a very interesting one indeed...
Thanks,
CL

[Caterpillars Lens]

Here you have another thought-provoking patch from NRO:

http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/b8c2f6cab1d8.jpg

More interesting info can be found here (http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread465962/pg1)

:)

[str8thinker]

I'm willing to bet that BETTY is probably another military acronym for the project or craft used. Bring ET To You, maybe? :)

[Teakai]

Bringing ET To You?



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bTPyWkES7KE

[passiglight]

Bringing ET To You?



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bTPyWkES7KE

whoaaa,,,,,nice find teakai,,,,,,,what is that object ???

[Teakai]

Betty.

Maybe.

[buckminster fuller]

Been looking for meaning for the letters on the dark planet. Couldn't find anything but for "sls", those are the initials for a swiss laboratory working with a cyclotron : http://www.lightsources.org/cms/

[passiglight]

Betty.

Maybe.

LOL,,, i guess your meaning planet x,,,,,,i like the name betty though,has a certain ring to it,,,,,,

looks like in that video you posted they are using haarp to create cloud cover to hide whats going on above,,

[math330]

from the comments section... but that doesn't explain why Betty has a flaming trident and a spanner ;)

"Perhaps the “Betty” refers to Betty J. Sapp, the first female Principal Deputy Director of the NRO"

[Inanna]

Bringing ET To You?



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bTPyWkES7KE

whoaaa,,,,,nice find teakai,,,,,,,what is that object ???

Hmmmm... can't find any other leads or sources on the net about this so called solar eclipse... On YouTube he seems to be the only one reporting this (?)

[math330]

http://img576.imageshack.us/img576/9245/518f45842fa8.jpg (http://img576.imageshack.us/i/518f45842fa8.jpg/) Uploaded with ImageShack.us (http://imageshack.us)

" Here’s one from another secret Black Ops project. Note the alien’s head with the two red colored eyes at the center of the patch. And it says, ‘behind the green door’!! Note the area marked in red on the map which corresponds to Dulce, New Mexico, the alleged secret underground base who some whistle blowers insist contain those little green men! "

from http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread465962/pg1
Thanks Caterpillars!

[Teakai]

Betty.

Maybe.

LOL,,, i guess your meaning planet x,,,,,,i like the name betty though,has a certain ring to it,,,,,,

looks like in that video you posted they are using haarp to create cloud cover to hide whats going on above,,

:nono: Noooooo, not planet X this time. Maybe it's a great big ship. Called Betty. This is in relation to Str8thinkers suggestion that Betty might be an acronym for Bringing ET's To You.

If that's what they're doing with the chemtrails, can you imagine the reaction when they are no longer able to cover up? On the bright side - at least of the conspiracy folk will be able to say "told you so!".
:whoo:

[Teakai]

Hmmmm... can't find any other leads or sources on the net about this so called solar eclipse... On YouTube he seems to be the only one reporting this (?)

Hi Inana, I think it was hot off the press when I posted it. I haven't yet taken a look around today to see if there's anymore on it.

[Gaia]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1297-dElXlA&feature=player_detailpage

[tkh123186]

Not sure but that looks more like a lensflare... see how it bounces off the water and the dots on the camera there.... this was recorded in china a few days ago also though but this one would be much bigger then that 2nd sun. But I think this one in China was either legit or an optical allusion... hard to say.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MvGyCXTHoZo

[yiolas]

Good find Gaia. I think I read somewhere that in the Southern Hemisphere Nibiru will show up coming in at 8 O'clock around the sun and in the Northern Hemisphere it will show up at 4 O'clock.

[Circe]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MvGyCXTHoZo
I don't know what to make of the above video, we need video/visual experts to analysis the video, there has been a lot of reports of Two Suns in our Solar system.
Interesting article in the Daily Mail
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-1349383/Betelgeuse-second-sun-Earth-supernova-turns-night-day.html
Earth 'to get second sun' as supernova turns night into dayBy David Gardner
Last updated at 5:53 PM on 22nd January 2011
Comments (211) Add to My Stories The Earth could soon have a second sun, at least for a week or two.

The cosmic phenomenon will happen when one of the brightest stars in the night sky explodes into a supernova.

And, according to a report yesterday


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-1349383/Betelgeuse-second-sun-Earth-supernova-turns-night-day.html#ixzz1FpGJRy26

[the_flyingboy]

thanks Gaia i'm not a professional camera man but it looks good enough to me.

[tkh123186]

Here is another awesome one I just found from Manchester shot on 3-4-11....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9zYhxCRtAgg

[Gaia]

Here's another really good video to ponder on.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EPUAeqBmbI0&feature=player_detailpage

[TWINNICK]

Here is another awesome one I just found from Manchester shot on 3-4-11....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9zYhxCRtAgg


G'day,

Well, that was interesting!

Any techy experts who can verify this one,

..Nick..

[LifeAngel]

Here is another awesome one I just found from Manchester shot on 3-4-11....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9zYhxCRtAgg

Nice video... looks very real to me.

[bashi]

Here's another really good video to ponder on.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EPUAeqBmbI0&feature=player_detailpage

This video is obviously a deliberate obfuscation. There are pictures from 2007 mixed with pictures of 2009. It is a very unclear and confused presentation with no clear POV.

[Gaia]

Here is another awesome one I just found from Manchester shot on 3-4-11....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9zYhxCRtAgg

Nice video... looks very real to me.

Yes I agree ! I want to believe that these videos are the truth, I have seen so many of these videos lately concerning two suns or Nibiru ! If this is the truth then they will not be able to hide this in the media much longer because these objects will grow bigger in the sky and soon people will see them with the naked eye ! I have been watching the sun and I have not seen this but, I have noticed the sun is not the same as before up in Canada !

[Gaia]

Here is another awesome one I just found from Manchester shot on 3-4-11....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9zYhxCRtAgg


G'day,

Well, that was interesting!

Any techy experts who can verify this one ?

..Nick..

Manny thanks TWINNICK

[Flash]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1297-dElXlA&feature=player_detailpage

He is saying 2 suns, feflexion in the water, to me this is definilty lens flare. IMHO, I am not an expert.

[steve_a]

Hi Gaia,

Not too sure aout the two suns, but that pool could do with a good clean.

Best regards,

Steve

[Gaia]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1297-dElXlA&feature=player_detailpage

He is saying 2 suns, feflexion in the water, to me this is definilty lens flare. IMHO, I am not an expert.

I have seen every website, every youtube vid there is on this stuff. I actually don't care if anybody believes it or not ... Everybody else will figure it out on their own and in good time...

Good luck !

[Ilie Pandia]

It is my understanding that "Nibiru" is a dwarf star (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dwarf_star) and if this is so it can only be seen with infra-red cameras.

My personal opinion about the pool video is that it is a case of light reflection and/or refraction plus some lens flare. (Light passing through different medium sometimes creates un-expected artifacts - but perfectly explainable).

I think that if such an object could be seen with naked eye or amateur camera it would be all over the net! Not only that but I would get my head out the window and I would see it myself.

[K626]

It is my understanding that "Nibiru" is a dwarf star (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dwarf_star) and if this is so it can only be seen with infra-red cameras.

My personal opinion about the pool video is that it is a case of light reflection and/or refraction plus some lens flare. (Light passing through different medium sometimes creates un-expected artifacts - but perfectly explainable).

I think that if such an object could be seen with naked eye or amateur camera it would be all over the net! Not only that but I would get my head out the window and I would see it myself.

The conjecture is that it is a dark star/brown dwarf with super mass. ie wouldn't look at all like a 2nd sun.


K

[Lord Sidious]

Nibiru could also be a planet in orbit of that dwarf star.

[K626]

Nibiru could also be a planet in orbit of that dwarf star.

But where would it get its energy from ie sunlight etc?

Yeah and don't start rabbiting on about super tech and whatnot...:p

K

[king anthony]

I have been watching the sun and I have not seen this but, I have noticed the sun is not the same as before up in Canada !

Being from the Greater Toronto Area (GTA), I agree things have changed in the sky ('up in Canada); not just the sun, the moon and stars appear different somehow.

[Lord Sidious]

Nibiru could also be a planet in orbit of that dwarf star.

But where would it get its energy from ie sunlight etc?

Yeah and don't start rabbiting on about super tech and whatnot...:p

K

Let me answer your question, with a couple of my own.

a) Why do you assume they need sunlight?
b) What is the possibility that life on any planets in orbit have adapted to low level light conditions?
c) How do we know that they don't have tech to capture/generate what they need?

There are stories that the reason aliens came here looking for gold is to seed their atmosphere with it to capture the light.
I would say that is possible.

[K626]

Nibiru could also be a planet in orbit of that dwarf star.

But where would it get its energy from ie sunlight etc?

Yeah and don't start rabbiting on about super tech and whatnot...:p

K

Let me answer your question, with a couple of my own.

a) Why do you assume they need sunlight?
b) What is the possibility that life on any planets in orbit have adapted to low level light conditions?
c) How do we know that they don't have tech to capture/generate what they need?

There are stories that the reason aliens came here looking for gold is to seed their atmosphere with it to capture the light.
I would say that is possible.

The sign of a truly advanced civ is one that always takes the simplest route. [Karchives/].

Also it's bloody freezing without it.:lol:

[Gaia]

I have been watching the sun and I have not seen this but, I have noticed the sun is not the same as before up in Canada !

Being from the Greater Toronto Area (GTA), I agree things have changed in the sky ('up in Canada); not just the sun, the moon and stars appear different somehow.

I agree, the sun seems closer and more brilliant, idem for the moon. Days abnormally grew longer since a few months. Here in Kuujjuaq the sun for the first time in history light began creeping over the horizon... 48 hours ahead...

[LM-R]

The first video i believe is lens flare.

Most of these sightings can be put down to this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sun_dog

There are many types of these phenomenons and most can be explained.
We shouldn't over react so quick to Niburu claims all the time guys

We also have this to look forward to in the future http://www.news.com.au/technology/sci-tech/tatooines-twin-suns-coming-to-a-planet-near-you-just-as-soon-as-betelgeuse-explodes/story-fn5fsgyc-1225991009247

[granny]

I have been watching the sun and I have not seen this but, I have noticed the sun is not the same as before up in Canada !

Being from the Greater Toronto Area (GTA), I agree things have changed in the sky ('up in Canada); not just the sun, the moon and stars appear different somehow.

I agree ... the Sun seems to rise in a slightly different direction ... more to the SE and of course that probably means the Earth has changed instead of the Sun ... what do you think??
Am in NE Tennessee. Have noticed a few other oddities as well.

[Gaia]

I have been watching the sun and I have not seen this but, I have noticed the sun is not the same as before up in Canada !

Being from the Greater Toronto Area (GTA), I agree things have changed in the sky ('up in Canada); not just the sun, the moon and stars appear different somehow.

I agree ... the Sun seems to rise in a slightly different direction ... more to the SE and of course that probably means the Earth has changed instead of the Sun ... What do you think??
Am in NE Tennessee. Have noticed a few other oddities as well.

This may be because there are so many conflicting hypotheses surrounding the subject, a lack of conclusive data and a lot of speculation, which I am now also contributing to give you a short answer of my own view :

I think that beyond the Arctic Circle, can find the time needed for day and night depending on latitude up to the period of the year, the sunrise has something very special even more so when the always anticipated event is just around two days early is taking place. Many good friends have confirmed their observations of the Sun in that, around the globe, we are definitely receiving the Sun rays from a differing angle over the past 2 years or so, this then helps us to understand my moon observations as being in step with some form of Change within our Galaxy... Bear in mind though that the Earth is continuously being bombarded with high energy particles (Via cosmic rays)

Some geophysicists claim that the process of magnetic pole shift takes hundreds or thousands of years and that it is 750,000 years since the last magnetic pole reversal occurred within an approximately 200,000 year cycle. Others hypothesize a much shorter 10,000 year cycle, and claim that the last reversal occurred about 11,500 years ago, and that there is evidence of a correlation between reversals and leaps in evolution, driven by the resulting radiation exposure resulting from a damaged geomagnetic field or magnetosphere, that usually protects us living organisms from the solar radiation that can cause cancer and mutate our DNA.



Kindest regards !

Gaia

[king anthony]

I agree ... the Sun seems to rise in a slightly different direction ... more to the SE and of course that probably means the Earth has changed instead of the Sun ... what do you think??
Am in NE Tennessee. Have noticed a few other oddities as well.

Would it not be human arrogance to think the sun has changed position; the same human arrogance that once said the earth was the center of existence!? Everything changes and there is no 'good' or 'bad' but that which simply is - different. These things have been and will be; for now is the 'handshake of the stranger' as old friends leave.

[TigaHawk]

Here's another really good video to ponder on.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EPUAeqBmbI0&feature=player_detailpage

This video is obviously a deliberate obfuscation. There are pictures from 2007 mixed with pictures of 2009. It is a very unclear and confused presentation with no clear POV.

Yeah - i was watching it and getting a little confuzed. I'm like ok, solar flare, reflections, venus..... what's he saying is reflecting to prove its a star and not a lense flare? Wait? wasnt that venus ? Ok... totally lost.






Nibiru could also be a planet in orbit of that dwarf star.

But where would it get its energy from ie sunlight etc?

Yeah and don't start rabbiting on about super tech and whatnot...:p

K


I think what they're trying to get at is - Just becasue we cant comprehend, understand or even imagine how life could exist in an enviroment totally different from ours - does not mean it does not.

Remember how they found bacteria and stuff that actualy THRIVES in toxic/nuculear waste?

And another bacteria that Thrives on the ocean floor near underwater volcanoes. It likes the heat.

I am sure a dwarf star gives off energy :) And im sure there is some lifeform which is specificly designed to use that energy like we would the sun's energy :)

[RAKMEiSTER]

.................................................

[nearing]

It is my understanding that "Nibiru" is a dwarf star and if this is so it can only be seen with infra-red cameras.

That may be true if it is way out in space away from any star. But if it is in our SS and close enough to our Sun, wouldn't it reflect light just like any other body?

BTW, one can get a better look at the sun without damaging retina by using an overexposed and developed xray to hold up to the sun and look though directly.

Back when I worked in a Diagnostic Tests area of a hospital, we would use this method to go out an d look at Solar eclipses. Unfortunately today I don't have access to one of those xrays. (they are just tossed in garbage in the hospital).

[Aviator]

Nibiru observed today from India?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VxnHSi4Ic6w

[Gaia]

Nibiru observed today from India?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VxnHSi4Ic6w

Good find Aviator !

[iceman]

5535
Hello everyone took this pic this afternoon in hanover ontario
was taken sitting at a red light with the window down.
Me and my wife have been following this thread thought we would take
some random shots with my cell phone this is what showed up
peace
Iceman

[Lord Sidious]

Nibiru observed today from India?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VxnHSi4Ic6w

Let's see if that worked.

[bitworm]

5535
Hello everyone took this pic this afternoon in hanover ontario
was taken sitting at a red light with the window down.
Me and my wife have been following this thread thought we would take
some random shots with my cell phone this is what showed up
peace
Iceman

If it were a planet, iceman's photo is more like what I'd expect it to look like. Here's one from Dec 2008 that shows the moon, Jupiter and Venus:
http://i.imgur.com/mEHI5.jpg
Source: http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2008/12/081202-venus-jupiter-photo.html

Although I do acknowledge that a massive coverup could have been a factor, there are a lot of eyes looking at the sky. Seems like something that big and that close (were it truly a second sun or new planet)would be impossible to deny. Events like these are confirmed by numerous independent sources, often years in advance.

[Humble Janitor]

Anyone who even TRIES to bring up Nibiru on another conspiracy forum is usually ridiculed and the thread tagged with HOAX, not to mention a brow-beating from forum members.

Alternative media does more harm than good with news like this because there's always a vocal group of people trying to shout it down/cover it up/etc, often because someone said that it was "fake" or a hoax.

[bluestflame]

http://coupmedia.org/planet-x-nibiru/nibiru-to-break-through-ecliptic-march-4th-2011-2302

nibiru related information and theories

[Alien Ramone]

If it's a second sun, where is it now?

[lightworker27]

Here another link from MSNBC about two suns spotted in China...

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/41927089/ns/technology_and_science-space/

[Tuza]

I have been watching the sun and I have not seen this but, I have noticed the sun is not the same as before up in Canada !

Being from the Greater Toronto Area (GTA), I agree things have changed in the sky ('up in Canada); not just the sun, the moon and stars appear different somehow.

I have been saying the exact same thing for many months, I dont care what anyone says we have moved, it has to be us, I mean the earth right.

And also I think there is something showing up, that looks like another sun, I dont care about its flare on photos, in pools, on windows, in the camera, ra ra, it is there and that is that. :p Maybe its because the earth has moved.

[Gaia]

Spectacular New Photos Of Planet X Near The Sun Taken (March 6)

http://www.ufodigest.com/sites/default/files/planet-x-closeup2.jpg

[yiolas]

Thank-you Gaia. I think that it is important that we keep on top of this as new pictures come in.

[Aviator]

Today we had a very clear sky, so I checked the situation around our sun with my teleskop. I have a 11" Schmidt Cassegrain Teleskop with special filters for sun observation. I also made some digital pictures from this area of the sky.
There is not bright object near the sun. All the digital images showing a bright light near the sun are optical effects and have nothing to do with Planet X or Nibiru.
The observers location on planet earth makes no big difference, because of the relatively big distance to the sun. People in Europe, Puerto Rico, India or China would see basically the same picture.
I don't know if Nibiru exists, but definitely not visible as a bright star near our sun.

But today I saw the sun quite different compared to a view weeks or month ago. The sun has a lot more sunspots now. There are 4 big groups of sunspots all over the surface visible now.

[yiolas]

Hi Aviator, thank-you for your in put. Can your telescope take pictures as well ? If so, would it be possible for you to post some of them.
Thanks

[Aviator]

Hi Aviator, thank-you for your in put. Can your telescope take pictures as well ? If so, would it be possible for you to post some of them.
Thanks

Yes, it is possible, but it takes some time to set up the photographical equipment and connect it to the computer. Sorry, I don't have this time today.

Instead you can see an actual image of the sun here (today):

http://www.spaceweather.com/images2011/07mar11/hmi4096_blank.jpg?PHPSESSID=ljia36q0vni72lvvmm8jv6fhf6

[Gaia]

Hi Aviator, thank-you for your in put. Can your telescope take pictures as well ? If so, would it be possible for you to post some of them.
Thanks

Yes, it is possible, but it takes some time to set up the photographical equipment and connect it to the computer. Sorry, I don't have this time today.

Instead you can see an actual image of the sun here (today):

http://www.spaceweather.com/images2011/07mar11/hmi4096_blank.jpg?PHPSESSID=ljia36q0vni72lvvmm8jv6fhf6

Very interesting pic Aviator:)

[tkh123186]

You can get real time pics of the sun updated almost hourly in multiple different views at the following link... I know its Nasa but its awesome to check out from time to time.

http://sohowww.nascom.nasa.gov/data/realtime-images.html

[scott12133]

The pictures and videos are very interesting I don't know what that could be. I do know one fact and that is NASA has reported there is an object beyond Pluto that is 3 to 4 times the size of Jupiter, I don't think were seeing this but an object that big just might have objects orbiting it.

[Grizzom]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZFENcNJyrHc&feature=related

[Gaia]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vAMlVhkMSYo&feature=player_detailpage

[slipknotted]

this last week i've seen many vids from china to england stereo pictures from nasa among other's makes you wonder i heard it rotate's behind the sun maybe it does'nt have the long orbit, could be closer all this time than we thought ?

[Humble Janitor]

Wow Gaia, that's quite an interesting video! I actually decided to share it on Facebook just to see if any of my friends are following this development.

[Gaia]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xHsJfUv9SpE&feature=player_detailpage

A pic from Montréal Canada 03-05-2011http://ascendingstarseed.files.wordpress.com/2011/03/nibiru-elenin-2.jpg

[iceman]

pics were taken at my house mon and tues
using my cell phone

[AlexanderLight]

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-XD8FTzHerJ8/TXn_kK6bB9I/AAAAAAAABBo/mV-LHWQkFsE/s1600/Nibiru%2521%2521%2521.png
Video from YouTubber: "astrolpatroit".
His powerful telescope shows that Comet Elenin does NOT EXISTS! In its location we have a brown dwarf, orbited by at least 5 huge moons: Nibiru. Nibiru is aproaching from behind the Sun, pulling us slightly closer to our Mother Star.
Watch the video here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4t00Rw9S_8k&feature=player_embedded
On his website, http://www.astrolpatriot.com, I also found these pictures:
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-OkAHcgKUrok/TXoAUMjgmwI/AAAAAAAABBs/01w1FOa8rkE/s1600/Nibiru+-+Leo.png
Yes, The Constellation Leo! This proves that my recent article from Monday, March 7, 2011 is correct! Nibiru is approaching from the Constellation Leo.

CLICK HERE TO READ THE ARTICLE! (http://humansarefree.com/2011/03/nibiru-planet-x-new-2011-pictures.html)

Other Interesting articles about Nibiru / Planet X:
1. NIBIRU - Planet X Admitted by Scientists! NASA shuts down Space Telescope ‘WISE’! (http://humansarefree.com/2011/02/nibiru-planet-x-admitted-by-scientists.html)
2. Elenin Comet: Smokescreen For Nibiru / Planet X (?) (http://humansarefree.com/2011/02/elenin-comet-smokescreen-for-nibiru.html)
3. Nibiru / Planet X discovered by Spanish Astronomers! (http://humansarefree.com/2011/01/nibiru-planet-x-discovered-by-spanish.html)
4. 2002 Article from "The Telegraph" about Planet X/ Nibiru (http://humansarefree.com/2011/02/2002-article-from-telegraph-about.html)

For all articles on Nibiru / Planet X, please visit the "Nibiru" section on my blog:
http://HumansAreFree.com/search/label/Nibiru

Personally, I still believe that Nibiru will reach his Perigee long after 2012. In my opinion, the maximum amount of damage will consist in flooding along the coastlines and a possible pole shift. None of the two are devastating for the human specie. I am very positive about this event and you should be too. This doesn't mean that we should not prepare for the worst. Extra precaution is always needed.

[bashi]

Another video from the same channel:


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[AlexanderLight]

Video comment:
"Ball of plasma approaching from the Constellation Leo. Images from North Carolina. Its definitly round and the colors make it apear to change shape, this is due to the atmosphere.
Filmed with a 80x zoom telescopic lens camera."

Definition for SUN = ball of plasma held together by what we call now "gravity".

Is Nibiru a planet orbiting a dark star?
Nibiru means "The Planet of the Crossing" for this reason:
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_u3D7kCdnYZs/TS2yAoZRioI/AAAAAAAAAfM/P0Y5fdAn1ec/s1600/Nibiru+cross.png

[bashi]

Nibiru means "The Planet of the Crossing" for this reason:
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_u3D7kCdnYZs/TS2yAoZRioI/AAAAAAAAAfM/P0Y5fdAn1ec/s1600/Nibiru+cross.png

HMMM...
If this is real, then that`s just a particular snapshot of orbiting planets. That changes, so there will be no more pattern.
The fact that you see this temporary pattern as a possible explanation for the name "The Planet of the Crossing" makes me think...

[bashi]

Hi Alex,
do you know the exact type of telescope wich "astrolpatroit" allegedly uses?

[AlexanderLight]

bashi, I don't know what type of telescope he used, brother.

Regarding the pattern, imagine seeing the dark star and its moons orbiting in 3D. No matter if they forms a perfect X or not, the star is still at the crossing.

In that picture a planet (moon) close to the dark star is clearly visible. That could be a planet able to sustain life: Nibiru / Planet X.

That's my idea anyways, I may be wrong...

[bashi]

bashi, I don't know what type of telescope he used, brother.

Regarding the pattern, imagine seeing the dark star and its moons orbiting in 3D. No matter if they forms a perfect X or not, the star is still at the crossing.

In that picture a planet (moon) close to the dark star is clearly visible. That could be a planet able to sustain life: Nibiru / Planet X.

That's my idea anyways, I may be wrong...

You seem to have spent some time on this subject.

I checked the trajectory of Elenin and there is one thing which bothered me:
In the video it is stated that Nibiru will cover Mars partially and then we will know...

See here:http://ssd.jpl.nasa.gov/sbdb.cgi?sstr=Elenin;orb=1;cov=0;log=0;cad=0#orb

Mars is soo far away, so tiny, that this coverage is almost unlikely to happen.
If the Elenin trajectory is the same as Nibiru, then Mars will be on the other side of the solar system - far, far away.
The mentioning of the coverage of Mars made me doubt a bit...

Anyhow, i noticed that the current orbit of Elenin displayed is very different than the orbit displayed a month ago.

[Teakai]

From stuff I've read I think Leonard Elenin (credited for discovery of comet Elenin) is a code word.

Maybe it's a case of "A rose by any other name..."

[Illuminaughty]

I just don't think that little telescope is capable of imaging Pluto or anything out that far. And what he claims is an Astral Patroit (Patriot?) 18" telescope, is actually a Meade ETX-70. The telescope he's using is clearly not an 18" telescope. That would be 18" diameter optical mirror. Clearly not what is shown.

(not my own words)

Then he says he's looking near Pluto for Elenin. Assuming this video was made around the date it was posted on YouTube, February 16th, or any time since Elenin was discovered in December, the angular separation between Elenin and Pluto would be over 95 degrees. Literally, they're in opposite sides of the sky. So why is he looking anywhere near Pluto for it?

Then he looks around Saturn. While Elenin would be much closer to Saturn at this time, there are still over 15 degrees of separation between the two, too much to get both in the same frame at such high magnification as used in the video. He's zoomed in close enough to see Titan, which would have about 0.04 degrees of separation from Saturn.

He then shows this image, which makes it look like Pluto, Neptune, and Eris are all close to each other in the sky

Also, I've heard that nobody has been able to see "Nibiru/Planet X" because it is moving toward us from the southern hemisphere of space.
...just throwing that out there!

[OnyxKnight]

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-XD8FTzHerJ8/TXn_kK6bB9I/AAAAAAAABBo/mV-LHWQkFsE/s1600/Nibiru%2521%2521%2521.png
Video from YouTubber: "astrolpatroit".
His powerful telescope shows that Comet Elenin does NOT EXISTS! In its location we have a brown dwarf, orbited by at least 5 huge moons: Nibiru. Nibiru is aproaching from behind the Sun, pulling us slightly closer to our Mother Star.

Is there an evidence that the distance of earth in relation to the Sun has changed, in other words, has reduced?

Considering the rest - whoopy do, they finally found Sol B! Nothing new for me, but I do want to make a comment on a few things:


Personally, I still believe that Nibiru will reach his Perigee long after 2012. In my opinion, the maximum amount of damage will consist in flooding along the coastlines and a possible pole shift. None of the two are devastating for the human specie. I am very positive about this event and you should be too. This doesn't mean that we should not prepare for the worst. Extra precaution is always needed.

Nbiru WAS, a solid planet. Not a gas giant, not a brown dwarf, and certainly not a star - like what you have here. You seem intelligent to me, you could have checked what is the difference between a brown dwarf and a star. Especially when developing theories like this:


In my circle of friends we have two theories:
1. Nibiru is an inhabited brawn dwarf orbited by giant moons;
2. Nibiru is a planet orbiting a "dark star" (almost dead sun).

Life of any kind is impossible in a brown dwarf. Theories in exobiology barely support the existence of any life in normal gas giants. And given such life exists, the circumstances forbid it t ever reach intelligence in par with mankind, let alone something more, like achieving status as an interstellar race.

A "Dark Star" is a theoretical type of star supported by Newtonian Mechanics (I can add Sirius C as an example here). Its surely not the same as an "almost dead star", which is a term used for stars about to die. And stars die with supernovae events. Most of 'em anyway.


At this point, the second theory is probable. Is Nibiru a planet orbiting a dark star?
Nibiru means "The Planet of the Crossing" for this reason:
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_u3D7kCdnYZs/TS2yAoZRioI/AAAAAAAAAfM/P0Y5fdAn1ec/s1600/Nibiru+cross.png

Evidence of Nibiru's destruction lies in the Kuiper Belt. Red rocky remains fly around and caught the attention of the Japanese Space Agency, who also concluded that several of the asteroids that roam around the Solar system were once part of a huge solid body. Most of the reports were taken off their official website (for reasons we could only speculate, and probably be right), but several of their asteroid research is still available (most notably, the asteroid Itokawa research).

Also, the Chinese plan to send a probe in the Kuiper Belt soon. Maybe they noticed something as well, with their telescopes? Let's wait and see if they get hit by an earthquake and/or a tsunami (before/after the program and research).

Nibiru was an artificial planetary-sized craft, several times the size of Earth, and it was destroyed in 2003, before it passed the Kuiper Belt.

There is another artificial object around 7 times the size of Earth, with origins from the Omicron Scorpii system, that is present in the vicinity of Jupiter. It is cloaked, but its gravity effect can be measured easily. Its non-hostile, and will leave this star system around September 2017, never passing near Earth. I was asked to notify others that this object not be confused with Nibiru.


I just don't think that little telescope is capable of imaging Pluto or anything out that far. And what he claims is an Astral Patroit (Patriot?) 18" telescope, is actually a Meade ETX-70. The telescope he's using is clearly not an 18" telescope. That would be 18" diameter optical mirror. Clearly not what is shown.

I agree. Worth to see. But not to take it for granted.


Also, I've heard that nobody has been able to see "Nibiru/Planet X" because it is moving toward us from the southern hemisphere of space.
...just throwing that out there!

This is where I disagree with you. There are many observatories and telescopes in the Southern Hemisphere too.

The reason It can't be seen, its because it doesn't exist .... anymore.

[Teakai]

The reason It can't be seen, its because it doesn't exist .... anymore.

Well, what happened to it, Onyx? By what you say it got messed up in the Kuiper belt - but why didn't it get messed up the first time it came around?

And - is Niburu by other names Kachina's or wormwood - or the planet that's supposed to have some sort of profound effect on earth?

[RAKMEiSTER]

http://thetruthbehindthescenes.files.wordpress.com/2011/03/img20110307142634.jpg


Update March 08, 2011

One more picture, taken March 07, 2011 in Ireland , Dublin at 2:26 PM (GMT)

Photo taken with HTC Dream (Google Phone, Android)

Photo submitted by sonic.boom


also see march 6 diffcase with addon
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Details:

Location: Christchurch New Zealand

Time & Date: 06.03.2011, between 5:30-6:45pm

Shutter speed: 1/1000

Aperture: f12 – f36

[RAKMEiSTER]

fixed 1st pix mixed m up with 2nd now correct working to 6march

[Gaia]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fzzpe5J9j6s

[Gaia]

It's something to do with the lens... I hear you say ! But scientists themselves have ruled that out (And even a cursory study of the videos will show that it is not lens flare) And so the mystery that is the appearance of a (Second Sun) continues unabated across the Planet. Thus far four differing nations in three different continents have had citizens who captured the phenomena on camera. Something is happening in our skies for which we here at planet Earth flipside can offer no explanation and given the myriad of competing theories it's no surprise but one thing remains crystal clear. THERE IS SOMETHING HAPPENING !


The earliest video I have found of the two Suns phenomena dates back to August 2010 in the UK. Should you be short on time but long on curiosity then fast forward this video to 6 min 30 sec and you will see the second Sun emerge... Amazing !


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k5FOjRuxW6Y

[Realeyes]

Hi OnyxKnight, I have just read this thread and I am most intrigued by what you have posted. Please pardon my ignorance :o, I know little about Astronomy yet have been curious about tales of (Nibiru) since 2001.
(1) You first mentioned it was a “planet”, then you said "artificial planetary-sized craft"; do you mean it was once a normal planet then was turned into a artificial craft by beings, possibly the Annunaki? I would love to know more on this please. You have blown me away with saying it was destroyed in 2003! What a jaw dropper! Do you know where I can seek more ‘real’ information on this, as it has really got me curious? PM me if you prefer.

Again, please pardon my ignorance, but after reading your post, I suspect my head might be filled with BS on this subject. (2) Could you please define in simple terms for a novice the difference of Nibiru and Planet X. I had read that Planet X was a brown dwarf star, and Nibiru orbited around it. I was sent this link yesterday about Planet X that is supposedly leaked NASSA video – I would really love to know what your thoughts are on this. Is this what you are calling ‘Sol B’? Or is Planet X still on it’s way to create havoc for Earth?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tqkWCChf-_w&NR=1

And finally, (3) you mention a larger body in space that is an “artificial object around 7 times the size of Earth, with origins from the Omicron Scorpii system, that is present in the vicinity of Jupiter. It is cloaked, but its gravity effect can be measured easily. Its non-hostile, and will leave this star system around September 2017...” WOW! Please can you explain more and where I can seek such information.

I would really appreciate hearing from you – your post has got my brain firing in an almost uncomfortable way :confused: and I really would like to have more knowledge on this. Thank you!

:juggle: :juggle:

[Icecold]

I give up........ :attention:

Stop. Desist.

1. NASA has identified a large body approaching the solar system. Probable Fact.

2. They have named that large body "Tyche".......let's use that name....like we use 'Jupiter' or 'Saturn' eh?????? FFS! :rolleyes:

3. Niburu is a theory. An unproven fact. Right???????? :noidea:

4. Its not a comet, its a BROWN DWARF STAR !!!!!

5. Elinin is a comet. It may have some effect on Earth. A cometary effect.

6. Elinin is not big enough to affect the sun in the way that the sun is being affected.

7. The sun is being affected by its sister star Tyche which NASA says is 4 times larger than Jupiter.

8. NASA may be wrong, but I trust the information much more that some lunatic making a VID based on dreams or channeling.


Please go easy on the disinformation. Let us try to have a coherent story with which we can understand what is happening to our planet. FCS.

Thank you.

[Lord Sidious]

I give up........ :attention:

Stop. Desist.

1. NASA has identified a large body approaching the solar system. Probable Fact.

2. They have named that large body "Tyche".......let's use that name....like we use 'Jupiter' or 'Saturn' eh?????? FFS! :rolleyes:

3. Niburu is a theory. An unproven fact. Right???????? :noidea:

4. Its not a comet, its a BROWN DWARF STAR !!!!!

5. Elinin is a comet. It may have some effect on Earth. A cometary effect.

6. Elinin is not big enough to affect the sun in the way that the sun is being affected.

7. The sun is being affected by its sister star Tyche which NASA says is 4 times larger than Jupiter.

8. NASA may be wrong, but I trust the information much more that some lunatic making a VID based on dreams or channeling.


Please go easy on the disinformation. Let us try to have a coherent story with which we can understand what is happening to our planet. FCS.

Thank you.

That would have to be one of the most ironic uses of the word lunatic I have seen in a long time.

[Maria Stade]

I give up........ :attention:

Stop. Desist.

1. NASA has identified a large body approaching the solar system. Probable Fact.

2. They have named that large body "Tyche".......let's use that name....like we use 'Jupiter' or 'Saturn' eh?????? FFS! :rolleyes:

3. Niburu is a theory. An unproven fact. Right???????? :noidea:

4. Its not a comet, its a BROWN DWARF STAR !!!!!

5. Elinin is a comet. It may have some effect on Earth. A cometary effect.

6. Elinin is not big enough to affect the sun in the way that the sun is being affected.

7. The sun is being affected by its sister star Tyche which NASA says is 4 times larger than Jupiter.

8. NASA may be wrong, but I trust the information much more that some lunatic making a VID based on dreams or channeling.


Please go easy on the disinformation. Let us try to have a coherent story with which we can understand what is happening to our planet. FCS.

Thank you.

That would have to be one of the most ironic uses of the word lunatic I have seen in a long time.

Hmm seems to be some one mirroring some thing that is not included in the self yet ! And by that lunatic !

Some thing to work on ??? :croc:

All Love :luv:

[jorr lundstrom]

Could someone please tell me in proper time before impact so we can take off

in our twoseated Galactica Angel. We are there after possible to contact on a

planet round Aldebaran.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fc_-icFHwQo&feature=related

[AlexanderLight]

@OnyxKnight , brother, when I wrote that Nibiru may be an inhabited brow dwarf I meant to say "an inhabited planet, the size of a brawn dwarf". I wrote the "Later Edited" part in 2 minutes as I was about to leave home. Thanks for correcting me, though.

And I am aware of the theory that very large planets can't sustain an atmosphere similar to Earths, but On the other hand, WE are talking from the perspective of today's knowledge / science / astronomy. We are infants in all domains! Just think that the only planet studied first hand is Earth and we still haven't unlocked its ("her" from my perspective) secrets. We know nothing of our planet's core or oceanic great depths or floors, etc. We still haven't unlocked the energetic mysteries of our planet and so on. So we are only SPECULATING about every other planet / star / giant / etc.

From my historic studies, Nibiru is an inhabited planet...that's what the Sumerians say about it & their knowledge comes from those who came from Nibiru: the Anunnaki. But Nibiru means "the planet of the crossing" and many distant civilizations described it as a red giant...and here is the mess! Can a red atmosphere sustain life? Today's knowledge says no, but what do we really know about other life forms in the Universe? Others say that the red color is a gas that shrouds the atmosphere like a blanket protecting it and keeping an optimum temperature.

You see, there are tens of hypothesis...so I can't accept ONE as fact, much less the one about Nibiru being a ship. The Anunnaki revealed great secrets to the Sumerians, why would they lie about a ship? And don't you think it's illogical for a ship to be dragged throughout the Universe in an absurd orbit? A ship is designed to be mobile, but this giant is "trapped" in a 3,600 years orbit (1 SAR as the Anunnaki called it) around our Sun.

The hypothesis that this is a dark star, came from its color. That's the color of dying Suns.
By the way, a very intelligent man explained to me that the term "dark star" has many meanings. From very distant stars (barely observable) to dark matter stars and hypothetical stars that formed early after the big bang. But in this context, a dark star is a Sun that is closing to the end of its life. Before going supernova the Sun is loosing intensity and turns reddish in color. This state lasts for hundreds of thousands of years.

But please keep in mind that almost everything in today's astronomy is a theory that may change tomorrow. Astronomy is one of the most humbling experiences and this is how we must be: humble (and loving). We have much...much more to learn. At this point we are children existing in one of the youngest and smallest Galaxies, in one of the youngest solar systems of our Universe.

[Icecold]

I give up........ :attention:

Stop. Desist.

1. NASA has identified a large body approaching the solar system. Probable Fact.

2. They have named that large body "Tyche".......let's use that name....like we use 'Jupiter' or 'Saturn' eh?????? FFS! :rolleyes:

3. Niburu is a theory. An unproven fact. Right???????? :noidea:

4. Its not a comet, its a BROWN DWARF STAR !!!!!

5. Elinin is a comet. It may have some effect on Earth. A cometary effect.

6. Elinin is not big enough to affect the sun in the way that the sun is being affected.

7. The sun is being affected by its sister star Tyche which NASA says is 4 times larger than Jupiter.

8. NASA may be wrong, but I trust the information much more that some lunatic making a VID based on dreams or channeling.


Please go easy on the disinformation. Let us try to have a coherent story with which we can understand what is happening to our planet. FCS.

Thank you.

That would have to be one of the most ironic uses of the word lunatic I have seen in a long time.

It is not ironic. Personal experience was not mentioned. But then I've mentioned a view of personal experience some time ago.

I am not including that view in that assessment and therefore it is not ironic.....

The experience of others is another matter...from my perspective. I hope that clears that up. Its not a difficult concept.

The disinformation on this topic is laughable. If you like the idea of 500 theories. That is your preference.

Have fun with facts, we can write them down and put them in a hat....have a party.

[Icecold]

@OnyxKnight , brother, when I wrote that Nibiru may be an inhabited brow dwarf I meant to say "an inhabited planet, the size of a brawn dwarf". I wrote the "Later Edited" part in 2 minutes as I was about to leave home. Thanks for correcting me, though.

And I am aware of the theory that very large planets can't sustain an atmosphere similar to Earths, but On the other hand, WE are talking from the perspective of today's knowledge / science / astronomy. We are infants in all domains! Just think that the only planet studied first hand is Earth and we still haven't unlocked its ("her" from my perspective) secrets. We know nothing of our planet's core or oceanic great depths or floors, etc. We still haven't unlocked the energetic mysteries of our planet and so on. So we are only SPECULATING about every other planet / star / giant / etc.

From my historic studies, Nibiru is an inhabited planet...that's what the Sumerians say about it & their knowledge comes from those who came from Nibiru: the Anunnaki. But Nibiru means "the planet of the crossing" and many distant civilizations described it as a red giant...and here is the mess! Can a red atmosphere sustain life? Today's knowledge says no, but what do we really know about other life forms in the Universe? Others say that the red color is a gas that shrouds the atmosphere like a blanket protecting it and keeping an optimum temperature.

You see, there are tens of hypothesis...so I can't accept ONE as fact, much less the one about Nibiru being a ship. The Anunnaki revealed great secrets to the Sumerians, why would they lie about a ship? And don't you think it's illogical for a ship to be dragged throughout the Universe in an absurd orbit? A ship is designed to be mobile, but this giant is "trapped" in a 3,600 years orbit (1 SAR as the Anunnaki called it) around our Sun.

The hypothesis that this is a dark star, came from its color. That's the color of dying Suns.
By the way, a very intelligent man explained to me that the term "dark star" has many meanings. From very distant stars (barely observable) to dark matter stars and hypothetical stars that formed early after the big bang. But in this context, a dark star is a Sun that is closing to the end of its life. Before going supernova the Sun is loosing intensity and turns reddish in color. This state lasts for hundreds of thousands of years.

But please keep in mind that almost everything in today's astronomy is a theory that may change tomorrow. Astronomy is one of the most humbling experiences and this is how we must be: humble (and loving). We have much...much more to learn. At this point we are children existing in one of the youngest and smallest Galaxies, in one of the youngest solar systems of our Universe.

I agree with your entire view laid down here. You are correct, even though this body may be a brown dwarf, we cannot be sure what sort of planets or suns support life. We cannot rely on our own physics. It is in many respects infantile. How do we explain the objects very close to the sun? Is the sun hot? Why do the objects not burn?

So yes, I agree with you in your assessment, we do not know enough to claim that a body of a certain size and atmosphere cannot support life. We just don't know.

I have not said that this entity is not the body that is known as Niburu, I'm saying that we have named this body, so let's use the name that it has been given. Using the word "Niburu" brings with it a host of issues that are mythical baggage.

KISS principle..... KEEP IT SIMPLE STUPID.

[yiolas]

Ok Guys, I would like to state up front that I am not a photographer.
I was doing weekend gardening today when I recalled reading somewhere that one could capture an image of planet x if they photographed the sun using the negative setting. Well, I decided to try it with my phone camera. I have Nokia 6303i classic. I wasn't even sure if it had such a setting. Lo and Behold it not only has a negative setting but something else as well called 'solara'.
I proceeded to take a picture of the sun at approximately 4pm Cyprus time using the normal setting which you can see in the first picture. Then tried it in the solara setting and then in the negative setting. I just wanted to settle this in my midn once and for all. I was astounded to say the least when I looked at what I had captured. I'm not saying that it is Nibiru, but look for yourselves and you tell me what that image is at the 5 o'clock position below the sun. Better yet try it yourselves. If I can do it with my very basic phone camera, any one can.

Please tell me what you think it is. The weirdest thing is that the object is not a regular smooth ball, but appears to have wings !

(picture taken at normal setting)
5856

Picture taken in the 'solara setting'
5854

Picture taken in the 'negative setting'
5853

[Dennis Jonathan]

Very cool tip Yiolas. I like the visual effects.

Im not an expert either, but I don't think that anomaly is in the right position to be celestial.

If you use the telephone pole as a frame of reference, the position of the anomaly seems to be in the field before the trees.

I'll mess around with the photo to draw up some angles.

Edit:

K here's the pic.

http://i54.tinypic.com/111o1mx.jpg

So the blue circles are the sun, with some additional ray space.

The White lines are an approximation of the base of the tree line.

The blue squares mark the pole as a reference point.

The red line is an approximation of the anomaly position.

This is obviously not exact, just an estimation drawn up in a minute.

BUT, that being said...

That is an amazing catch! I'd be interested in what it is, now that I've said my opinion of what it is not.

Definitely cool.

Maybe it's your totem spirit :).

I know I have no less than 2 ravens within 100 yards of me at any time. No idea why. I have a few hundred that flock in the trees behind my house.

[Lord Sidious]

I give up........ :attention:

Stop. Desist.

1. NASA has identified a large body approaching the solar system. Probable Fact.

2. They have named that large body "Tyche".......let's use that name....like we use 'Jupiter' or 'Saturn' eh?????? FFS! :rolleyes:

3. Niburu is a theory. An unproven fact. Right???????? :noidea:

4. Its not a comet, its a BROWN DWARF STAR !!!!!

5. Elinin is a comet. It may have some effect on Earth. A cometary effect.

6. Elinin is not big enough to affect the sun in the way that the sun is being affected.

7. The sun is being affected by its sister star Tyche which NASA says is 4 times larger than Jupiter.

8. NASA may be wrong, but I trust the information much more that some lunatic making a VID based on dreams or channeling.


Please go easy on the disinformation. Let us try to have a coherent story with which we can understand what is happening to our planet. FCS.

Thank you.

That would have to be one of the most ironic uses of the word lunatic I have seen in a long time.

It is not ironic. Personal experience was not mentioned. But then I've mentioned a view of personal experience some time ago.

I am not including that view in that assessment and therefore it is not ironic.....

The experience of others is another matter...from my perspective. I hope that clears that up. Its not a difficult concept.

The disinformation on this topic is laughable. If you like the idea of 500 theories. That is your preference.

Have fun with facts, we can write them down and put them in a hat....have a party.

You missed the point nugget.
The word lunatic being used in a post about bodies in space.
Get it?

[Icecold]

Yes, that was my first take on it.....and I thought...no. LOL



http://fc05.deviantart.net/fs26/i/2008/042/a/4/Lunatic_Pandora_v3_by_Enkera_2005.jpg



THE LUNATIC by Liam Wilkinson
I’m in a strange mood tonight.

I aim for the moon and laugh
as the elastic snaps behind me,

collapsing the whole contraption
until I look like the lunatic,

tangled in the chaos of the death
of a mechanical butterfly.

[OnyxKnight]

Well, what happened to it, Onyx? By what you say it got messed up in the Kuiper belt - but why didn't it get messed up the first time it came around?

And - is Niburu by other names Kachina's or wormwood - or the planet that's supposed to have some sort of profound effect on earth?

They received an ultimatum in 2002 to change their trajectory due to our part of the Solar system (extending to Neptune) is off limits for an undetermined time period. They ignored this and attempted to pass the Kuiper Belt the next year as they approached us. A conflict arose between the watcher groups / KBA and the nibiruans, ending with the destruction of their artificial object.

The Nibiru culture is still alive though, and has since transported itself on a planet around the star Ainalhai. The good end of this scenario is, most of those who survived are from the Enki followership.

Not sure if Wormwood has anything to do with this. But no planets are to have effects on our world in the foreseeable future. That much I'm told. I could be wrong too.


Hi OnyxKnight, I have just read this thread and I am most intrigued by what you have posted. Please pardon my ignorance :o, I know little about Astronomy yet have been curious about tales of (Nibiru) since 2001.
(1) You first mentioned it was a “planet”, then you said "artificial planetary-sized craft"; do you mean it was once a normal planet then was turned into a artificial craft by beings, possibly the Annunaki?

Bingo!

Bravo, you are very good. I just wish a lot more people would get things this fast :).

The planet was transformed to be able to travel through star systems as a craft.

The Anunnaki is the same as saying Europeans. A lot of different cultures that are referred to by the same name have been present at the same time those of Nibiru arrived. They were regarded as part of the pantheon of "gods".. It would be more accurate to label them Nibiruans, since they are the only ones who "owned" Nibiru. As I feel you are referring to them.


I would love to know more on this please. You have blown me away with saying it was destroyed in 2003! What a jaw dropper! Do you know where I can seek more ‘real’ information on this, as it has really got me curious? PM me if you prefer.

* Anonymous insider sources claim it was destroyed in 2003;

* Stewart Swerdlow also says it was destroyed in 2003;

* Alex Collier also says it was destroyed 2003;

* Various other people who claim extraterrestrial contact have also claimed the same.

If there were any 'real' information left out in the open, I wouldn't have had to talk about this, it would have been common knowledge amongst people like us. The Japanese Space Agency released reports of red rocky remains in the Kuiper Belt along with their research on various asteroids but most of it was taken off their websites. Some of their research on asteroids is still available on the net.


Again, please pardon my ignorance, but after reading your post, I suspect my head might be filled with BS on this subject. (2) Could you please define in simple terms for a novice the difference of Nibiru and Planet X. I had read that Planet X was a brown dwarf star, and Nibiru orbited around it. I was sent this link yesterday about Planet X that is supposedly leaked NASSA video – I would really love to know what your thoughts are on this. Is this what you are calling ‘Sol B’? Or is Planet X still on it’s way to create havoc for Earth?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tqkWCChf-_w&NR=1

We used to be a triple star system. One sun got "extinguished" long, long time ago, and we are now a binary system of a G2V-class, yellow, main sequence star, and a very small, very dim, borderline M9 red dwarf star. Some confuse it with a brown dwarf, though its not. It was to get the name Tyche, and if you checked the article in 2010, the name was still reserved for the second sun, but they now gave it to the newly discovered gas giant planet several times larger than Jupiter. This planet is not part of our system Its being brought in orbit around the second star.

Planet X and Nibiru could be deemed similar, because they are regarded by many as the same conspiracy. The problem is, Nibiru is not a planet anymore, nor was it part of our system when it was a planet long, long time ago. Planet X is meant for Pluto, or should I say was, since he is no longer considered a planet.

Nibiru was a solid planet, rich in minerals, and metals, who in combination, gave it an dark-red color. The atmosphere was rich in mono-atomic gold that also added to the reddish hue of the planet. In combination with some of their technology, this was a good radiation repellent (or so I'm told).

Planet X is a designation given to any (still) enigmatic planet proposed/theorized to exist. It is not a single planet designation, and surely, like any other planet or a passing cosmic body, it won't cause havoc in our Solar System.


And finally, (3) you mention a larger body in space that is an “artificial object around 7 times the size of Earth, with origins from the Omicron Scorpii system, that is present in the vicinity of Jupiter. It is cloaked, but its gravity effect can be measured easily. Its non-hostile, and will leave this star system around September 2017...” WOW! Please can you explain more and where I can seek such information.

I would really appreciate hearing from you – your post has got my brain firing in an almost uncomfortable way :confused: and I really would like to have more knowledge on this. Thank you!

:juggle: :juggle:

That information comes from me as a source, not anyone else. I've been asked to notify people that this is not Nibiru, in case somebody registers its motion, or gravity, maybe spectrographic components etc.

Its a generational craft for an extraterrestrial race, only here to conduct research on Jupiter, Saturn, and their moons. It was scheduled to leave the system till 2014, although, depending on the course of their research they may leave sooner (or later in this case) then expected.

After the research is done, it will continue with its trajectory heading towards Mars' orbit and continue towards the Barnard's Star system for a short time, before departing for Wolf 1061.


4. Its not a comet, its a BROWN DWARF STAR !!!!![/COLOR]

If you are referring to Tyche, I ensure you, it aint no brown dwarf.


The sun is being affected by its sister star Tyche which NASA says is 4 times larger than Jupiter.

No star can be as small as 4 times Jupiter's size. Gas giants more massive than 13 Jupiter masses, barely make to the brown dwarf stage. This one is four.

Its "sister" star is almost 50.000 AU from our main sun. Tyche is about 15.000 AU. The sun is affected by other things, not planets.


Could someone please tell me in proper time before impact so we can take off

in our twoseated Galactica Angel. We are there after possible to contact on a

planet round Aldebaran.

You would not be happy with the outcome, if you are waiting for help from the Aldebaran system.


@OnyxKnight , brother, when I wrote that Nibiru may be an inhabited brow dwarf I meant to say "an inhabited planet, the size of a brawn dwarf". I wrote the "Later Edited" part in 2 minutes as I was about to leave home. Thanks for correcting me, though.

My bad then. Sorry, wrong interpretation.


And I am aware of the theory that very large planets can't sustain an atmosphere similar to Earths, but On the other hand, WE are talking from the perspective of today's knowledge / science / astronomy. We are infants in all domains! Just think that the only planet studied first hand is Earth and we still haven't unlocked its ("her" from my perspective) secrets. We know nothing of our planet's core or oceanic great depths or floors, etc. We still haven't unlocked the energetic mysteries of our planet and so on. So we are only SPECULATING about every other planet / star / giant / etc.

I was just saying that the Nibiruans cannot sustain the temperature if they lived in brown dwarfs (was just saying).


From my historic studies, Nibiru is an inhabited planet...that's what the Sumerians say about it & their knowledge comes from those who came from Nibiru: the Anunnaki. But Nibiru means "the planet of the crossing" and many distant civilizations described it as a red giant...and here is the mess! Can a red atmosphere sustain life? Today's knowledge says no, but what do we really know about other life forms in the Universe? Others say that the red color is a gas that shrouds the atmosphere like a blanket protecting it and keeping an optimum temperature.

I never said Nibiru is not inhabited. Only that it got blown off in 2003. The rest, is fine with me.


You see, there are tens of hypothesis...so I can't accept ONE as fact, much less the one about Nibiru being a ship. The Anunnaki revealed great secrets to the Sumerians, why would they lie about a ship? And don't you think it's illogical for a ship to be dragged throughout the Universe in an absurd orbit? A ship is designed to be mobile, but this giant is "trapped" in a 3,600 years orbit (1 SAR as the Anunnaki called it) around our Sun.

If you can't accept he idea of planetary-sized craft, why bother mentioning the previous quote? About today's knowledge and all that stuff. What do you really know about alien cultures? Is what I ask you. Just the same question you asked to the general readership here on Avalon.

And why would they tell them, or even bother explaining, what a ship was, or why it is planet-sized? Can you explain computer science to a native tribesman in Africa?

And nobody said the ship wasn't mobile. It moves from star system to star system. And if you still believe the disproven '3600 year cycle' theory, you might as well try to calculate the years to Nibiru's arrival. You should get something like 240 more years, for the year Nibiru should be "close to Earth" again, in which case, we should drop this Nibiru hype, and focus on other things, as 200 years from now is a lot of time to worry right now, don't you think?

Needless to say, it did not ran on cycles. It did not have an orbit for it anyway. Concerning cycles, Nibiru's last visit was in 51.622 BC. Some gap in the cycle period there, don't ya think?


The hypothesis that this is a dark star, came from its color. That's the color of dying Suns.
By the way, a very intelligent man explained to me that the term "dark star" has many meanings. From very distant stars (barely observable) to dark matter stars and hypothetical stars that formed early after the big bang. But in this context, a dark star is a Sun that is closing to the end of its life. Before going supernova the Sun is loosing intensity and turns reddish in color. This state lasts for hundreds of thousands of years.

It aint the state of this star, because its a lot younger than the main Sun. Even if it was older, it should last well beyond after our own Sun dies. Red dwarfs are the "Immortals" of the stellar population.

[Teakai]

Ok Guys, I would like to state up front that I am not a photographer.
I was doing weekend gardening today when I recalled reading somewhere that one could capture an image of planet x if they photographed the sun using the negative setting. Well, I decided to try it with my phone camera. I have Nokia 6303i classic. I wasn't even sure if it had such a setting. Lo and Behold it not only has a negative setting but something else as well called 'solara'.
I proceeded to take a picture of the sun at approximately 4pm Cyprus time using the normal setting which you can see in the first picture. Then tried it in the solara setting and then in the negative setting. I just wanted to settle this in my midn once and for all. I was astounded to say the least when I looked at what I had captured. I'm not saying that it is Nibiru, but look for yourselves and you tell me what that image is at the 5 o'clock position below the sun. Better yet try it yourselves. If I can do it with my very basic phone camera, any one can.

Please tell me what you think it is. The weirdest thing is that the object is not a regular smooth ball, but appears to have wings !

(picture taken at normal setting)
5856

Picture taken in the 'solara setting'
5854

Picture taken in the 'negative setting'
5853

Is it the thing that looks like a bird - or is that a bird and there's something else?

[yiolas]

Hi Dennis, thank-you very much for taking the time to anylize my photos and giving your suggestions. Now that you point it out, yes, the bird figure is too low to be part of the skyline. It is infact in the field. Your idea about it perhaps being my totem spirit is quite intriguing. I will research that possibility. Thank-you. I will try photographing again today, but not when the sun is so low.

To Teakai, the object that we are looking at is the bird looking figure below the sun.
Very cool tip Yiolas. I like the visual effects.

Im not an expert either, but I don't think that anomaly is in the right position to be celestial.

If you use the telephone pole as a frame of reference, the position of the anomaly seems to be in the field before the trees.

I'll mess around with the photo to draw up some angles.

Edit:

K here's the pic.

http://i54.tinypic.com/111o1mx.jpg

So the blue circles are the sun, with some additional ray space.

The White lines are an approximation of the base of the tree line.

The blue squares mark the pole as a reference point.

The red line is an approximation of the anomaly position.

This is obviously not exact, just an estimation drawn up in a minute.

BUT, that being said...

That is an amazing catch! I'd be interested in what it is, now that I've said my opinion of what it is not.

Definitely cool.

Maybe it's your totem spirit :).

I know I have no less than 2 ravens within 100 yards of me at any time. No idea why. I have a few hundred that flock in the trees behind my house.

[Hybrid5226]

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Woman predicted earthquake on 3/08 for the 3/11 quake

[Realeyes]

Dear Onyxknight, Thank you so much for replying to my post of questions; this has been most helpful! Reading your other answers to posts, I realise I am way out of my depth on the technical names and definitions and will set too doing a lot of homework this end to catch up to speed. I have read your answers numerous times, I hope I have understood right your words that the image in the NASSA video of the second body next to our Sun you are calling “borderline M9 red dwarf star” that did not get the intended designated name “Tyche” in the end. Please correct me if I am wrong.

I am particularly interested in this because in late August 2009 whilst on holiday in Wales, UK, I was quietly relaxing in the countryside watching (1 hour before) the approaching sunset; the sky was dimmed by medium cloud cover allowing me to look directly at the sun. What I saw unmistakably were two suns, our usual big sun and another sun much smaller situated around 4 o’clock. I observed this for about 10 minutes before thicker cloud blacked out both suns. I was so transfixed by this scene I didn’t think of taking any photos. I have though seen similar images in photos on utube since. Would this have been ‘M9’ or maybe was I seeing a very large spherical spacecraft??? :doh:

Onyxknight you mentioned something curious in a reply to someone else saying, “The sun is affected by other things, not planets.” Could you please share your knowledge on what you mean here? I personally am wondering if this has something to do with the Galactic centre that many are talking about. I can see there are many changes occurring physically on Earth right now as well as a conscious awakening happening in people – somehow IMHO this all ties in some way.

On a sidenote, I know in myself ‘something’ big is happening here and have seen with my own eyes luminous green fireballs being shot from deep space into our Earth’s atmosphere that explode like luminous green fireworks to help neutralise ‘something’. I’ve seen huge Motherships in the sky and many other strange things and ‘know’ in no words that we are being helped from advanced civilisations from other worlds and also our very own human Future. These ‘Times’ we live in are very interesting. This Alice is very curious and hungry to understand more. ;)

Thanks again Onyxknight for sharing your time. :dance: :hug:

[Icecold]

OnyxKnight:

I'm not going to quote yor entire post. lol

But what you have laid out there is an elaborate theory with no supporting evidence....except other elaborate theories. Any or all of these may or may not be correct. Yet they all remain theories.


Bingo!

Bravo, you are very good. I just wish a lot more people would get things this fast .

Do you say this because the member has agreed with your theory?

The only evidence in any of this is that a large planetary body has been detected moving in our direction....and it has been named by NASA scientists.

Everything else is theoretical.

The fact that you believe in an elaborate theory is commendable, but is no proof of any truth whatsoever.




The Crystal Gazer

I shall gather myself into my self again,
I shall take my scattered selves and make them one.
I shall fuse them into a polished crystal ball
Where I can see the moon and the flashing sun.
I Shall sit like a sibyl, hour after hour intent.
Watching the future come and the present go -
And the little shifting pictures of people rushing
In tiny self-importance to and fro.

- Sara Teasdale

[Hughe]

Re: Proof that Comet Elenin doesn't exists! We have Nibiru instead!
Originally Posted by Teakai
Well, what happened to it, Onyx? By what you say it got messed up in the Kuiper belt - but why didn't it get messed up the first time it came around?

And - is Niburu by other names Kachina's or wormwood - or the planet that's supposed to have some sort of profound effect on earth?
They received an ultimatum in 2002 to change their trajectory due to our part of the Solar system (extending to Neptune) is off limits for an undetermined time period. They ignored this and attempted to pass the Kuiper Belt the next year as they approached us. A conflict arose between the watcher groups / KBA and the nibiruans, ending with the destruction of their artificial object.

The Nibiru culture is still alive though, and has since transported itself on a planet around the star Ainalhai. The good end of this scenario is, most of those who survived are from the Enki followership.


So, the Annunaki clans ran for their lives after defeat?

[Eric J (Viking)]

Ok Guys, I would like to state up front that I am not a photographer.
I was doing weekend gardening today when I recalled reading somewhere that one could capture an image of planet x if they photographed the sun using the negative setting. Well, I decided to try it with my phone camera. I have Nokia 6303i classic. I wasn't even sure if it had such a setting. Lo and Behold it not only has a negative setting but something else as well called 'solara'.
I proceeded to take a picture of the sun at approximately 4pm Cyprus time using the normal setting which you can see in the first picture. Then tried it in the solara setting and then in the negative setting. I just wanted to settle this in my midn once and for all. I was astounded to say the least when I looked at what I had captured. I'm not saying that it is Nibiru, but look for yourselves and you tell me what that image is at the 5 o'clock position below the sun. Better yet try it yourselves. If I can do it with my very basic phone camera, any one can.

Please tell me what you think it is. The weirdest thing is that the object is not a regular smooth ball, but appears to have wings !

(picture taken at normal setting)
5856

Picture taken in the 'solara setting'
5854

Picture taken in the 'negative setting'
5853

These piccies are pretty amazing Yiola ... they look very real to me...and the shape of the image seems to be spot on ...

Waiting to hear what others have to say ...

viking

[OnyxKnight]

Dear Onyxknight, Thank you so much for replying to my post of questions; this has been most helpful! Reading your other answers to posts, I realise I am way out of my depth on the technical names and definitions and will set too doing a lot of homework this end to catch up to speed. I have read your answers numerous times, I hope I have understood right your words that the image in the NASSA video of the second body next to our Sun you are calling “borderline M9 red dwarf star” that did not get the intended designated name “Tyche” in the end. Please correct me if I am wrong.

You are correct about everything except that this second sun is ~50.000 AU. away. Not near the sun.

What it seems to be in the video is a planet-sized object with a partial cover going near the sun. I'm saying this because a lot of people would notice it everyday if it was there constantly. And it seems it isn't. Which means that this object is moving around. I find the footage very interesting but I have no information on this object. It is not Nibiru, Sol B nor the body from Omicron Scorpii (to my current understanding). Its something else entirely.


I am particularly interested in this because in late August 2009 whilst on holiday in Wales, UK, I was quietly relaxing in the countryside watching (1 hour before) the approaching sunset; the sky was dimmed by medium cloud cover allowing me to look directly at the sun. What I saw unmistakably were two suns, our usual big sun and another sun much smaller situated around 4 o’clock. I observed this for about 10 minutes before thicker cloud blacked out both suns. I was so transfixed by this scene I didn’t think of taking any photos. I have though seen similar images in photos on utube since. Would this have been ‘M9’ or maybe was I seeing a very large spherical spacecraft??? :doh:

I would guess the latter. Suns don't move like that. And this has been seen at 10 o'clock from the Sun, sometimes 7, and in your case 4 o'clock. Most times our sun remains the same, singular and lonely, and nobody sees a companion. Other times many people observe something. Same has happened with the Moon, Mercury, Venus etc. These are all objects that can move around, and as such they can't be considered "normal" star system components.


Onyxknight you mentioned something curious in a reply to someone else saying, “The sun is affected by other things, not planets.” Could you please share your knowledge on what you mean here? I personally am wondering if this has something to do with the Galactic centre that many are talking about. I can see there are many changes occurring physically on Earth right now as well as a conscious awakening happening in people – somehow IMHO this all ties in some way.

It has had an effect on us since 1994. The galactic center I mean.

I was talking about other effects, who are negative in nature. Somebody is changing the sun's brightness, heat, and cycle work. Through what means and for what purposes I don't know (yet). Those objects seen near the sun in a pattern are there to fix some of the damage done by this unknown source. I have my theories, but will refrain from sharing them for the time being.

In case this gets called a theory for the way its typed too, the sun is acting very strange lately and there is difficulty tracking its cycle system, and working mechanics, because they seem more chaotic. This is unusual, and it has dragged some attention of the scientific community. This is fact, one can google this if in doubts.


On a sidenote, I know in myself ‘something’ big is happening here and have seen with my own eyes luminous green fireballs being shot from deep space into our Earth’s atmosphere that explode like luminous green fireworks to help neutralise ‘something’. I’ve seen huge Motherships in the sky and many other strange things and ‘know’ in no words that we are being helped from advanced civilisations from other worlds and also our very own human Future. These ‘Times’ we live in are very interesting. This Alice is very curious and hungry to understand more. ;)

Thanks again Onyxknight for sharing your time. :dance: :hug:

Looks like somebody's cleaning up the chemtrail mess. Good job observing this.

And you are welcome :).


OnyxKnight:

I'm not going to quote yor entire post. lol

But what you have laid out there is an elaborate theory with no supporting evidence....except other elaborate theories. Any or all of these may or may not be correct. Yet they all remain theories.

Our system being binary used to be regarded a silly conspiracy. Now its a mystery that scratches the curious side of the brains of scientific minds too. So, I hope you do see a difference between an ordinary speculation (for which there are also good enough indicators, usually), and scientific theories/speculations. One hell of a difference. One who is interested in facts, should know this very well.

Now, let's examine the known facts:

There is no logical reason for the Sumerians, as advanced as they were, to attribute everything they learned and advanced to "Gods", who they portrayed in a way that you cannot see them as anything else than intelligent forms of life from another point of space other than our planet. Therefore, logic dictates they were dealing with ETs. If they exist, so did Nibiru FACT # 1.

The sun is acting strange and very chaotic. Since it is far, far away from its later stage of life (in terms of life, it has just entered its adolescent years), this behavior is very, very unusual. For this to happen to a natural object who has a precise cycle system of working, means that there is an external, artificial cause for this. Sources remain so far unknown, but we do know this should NOT happen. Something is going on, something/somebody is playing with the sun's mechanics. FACT # 2

There seems to be more than one planet-sized objects roaming around our Solar System. Some have caught them near the Kuiper Belt, some near Saturn and Jupiter, some near the (Main) Sun. All these cases have sufficient evidence to be considered at least somewhat credible. Since we are in the pursuit of Truth, when things like that are censored or extremely attempted at debunking them, means there is something to it. Especially if we talk about footage, or reports coming from Space Agencies (NASA, JSA etc,.). FACT # 3

Brown dwarfs happen when an object gains 13+ Jupiter masses. The new "Tyche" planet is barely 4 times Jupiter's size, and its too cool to be ridiculously considered a brown dwarf. Tyche is a large gas giant, nothing more, or less. Brown dwarf explanation goes out the window. FACT # 4

The "Tyche" planet is located ~15.000 AU from us. Too far away to be part of our system. Also too far apart to be considered (right now) part of the Sol B system, who is ~50.000 AU away. FACT # 5

Sol B (Or Nemesis if you will). You do remember I said its now a scientific theory right? If scientists are interested and asking for research funding of this, yes, they are serious. There is something nearly a light year away, located somewhere in the Oort cloud, that is causing havoc there, and shooting asteroids and comets near our path. To be able to do that there has to be a stellar-type object there, with enough gravity to be able to do that. FACT # 6

Destruction of Nibiru. There were nice pictures from Space Agencies, and amateur astronomers depicting a curious object approaching from the distance of the Kuiper Belt. Well, there were up until the start of 2003, after which they all disappear from the net. If you were active in these topics (particularly Nibiru/Planet X) you should know about this, the net was flooded with them. After the start of 2003, they all disappear from the net, and nobody neither saw this object again, nor was able to find any pictures depicting it on the net. Its still referred to this day, as "The Raid". Also, the Japanese Space Agency released reports on research on asteroids that said that several of the newly asteroids discovered from 2003 - 2009 show features of being once "a planet". You can find only small confirmations of this in their official websites, the rest has been taken off (for whatever reasons). Nibiru lies in pieces in the Kuiper Belt. Some probes are planned to have missions there in near future, so this will soon to be a confirmed fact. UNCONFIRMED FACT / FACT # 7


Do you say this because the member has agreed with your theory?

I said that because he put 2 and 2 together, when it comes to what I had said (not everybody gets me the first time they read my post). So, I said that for understanding what I meant. He never said he agreed with me or my "theory", just that it sounds interesting and that he would like to know more.


The fact that you believe in an elaborate theory is commendable, but is no proof of any truth whatsoever.

Apply for the next Chinese space mission. maybe they will let you participate in investigating the Kuiper Belt with them and get your proof.


So, the Annunaki clans ran for their lives after defeat?

Yes, they left the Solar System. Otherwise the conflict might have ended bad for them.

[yiolas]

These piccies are pretty amazing Yiola ... they look very real to me...and the shape of the image seems to be spot on ...

Waiting to hear what others have to say ...

viking
Viking, I'm getting spooked out here.
I was sort of resigned to the fact that what I captured yesterday was some kind of photographic glitch. But as I continued my gardening today, I decided to take one more shot at the sun. It was a bright sunny day here in Cyprus and the sun was still high up in the sky around 3 pm. I was standing in front of trellis and with my cell phone camera on the 'negative setting' again, I aimed up and took a shot of the sun . It was so bright outside that I really could not see what the picture looked like at the time. It's dark now and I just came in side and decided to upload the picture onto my computer.
The object under the sun is still clearly there. Please, will someone just go outside and take a picture of the sun and put your camera on the negative setting.
I would really like to get to the bottom of this.

[Garry Irwin]

5892
Hi...
This is a photograph of the Sun I took on 7th Mar 2011 at 13:51, from NW England.
To protect my eyes and camera photo-sensor I used two dark filters fitted to the end of the telephoto lens.
As you can plainly see... there is nothing else up there but the Sun.
I suggest that the anomalies we are seeing on some photographs here are due to lens-flare, sun-dogs and/or cheap cameras and lenses.
Sorry guys... hate to spoil the party.
Peace x

[yiolas]

Hi Upanatom, I think that you would have taken a completely different picture had you put your camera in the 'negative' setting. I don't now if it will harm your photo sensor or not though. My cheap cell phone camera seems to have survived though.

[The HoppyBunny]

I have to add on to this only because it coincides with the dream i had when i was 18. I saw the future (my future) this is kind of bleh to write only because i am bit, of skeptick when it comes to sharing "my future" when my "future" is still "unclear". I was looking outside of a window, from a house, and the sun's overall color was different, (compared to the early nineties and what I can remember) Almost "autumnly" like, every day..sort of like NOW. hehe I don't know if you guys have noted a difference.


But yeah i looked alive and with family...

[Garry Irwin]

Hi Upanatom, I think that you would have taken a completely different picture had you put your camera in the 'negative' setting. I don't now if it will harm your photo sensor or not though. My cheap cell phone camera seems to have survived though.

yiolas...
It would be an easy task to load the photo into an image manipulation program (ie., Photoshop) and render it negative. I have already looked at the photo in negative as well as using several different filters and saw nothing unexpected.
I can't see how taking a photograph in negative mode would make any difference.
Perhaps a professional photographer could explain better?
Also, yes... I believe the camera sensor will be damaged if exposed to direct sunlight for any extended time... same as your eyes.
My camera is a Canon EOS SLR... and I wasn't about to damage the sensor or my eyes by neglecting to use an appropriate dark filter.

I hope someone here can explain the anomaly in your photograph.
Thanks.

[OnyxKnight]

5892
Hi...
This is a photograph of the Sun I took on 7th Mar 2011 at 13:51, from NW England.
To protect my eyes and camera photo-sensor I used two dark filters fitted to the end of the telephoto lens.
As you can plainly see... there is nothing else up there but the Sun.
I suggest that the anomalies we are seeing on some photographs here are due to lens-flare, sun-dogs and/or cheap cameras and lenses.
Sorry guys... hate to spoil the party.
Peace x

Just because you haven't seen something like that or captured it on camera, doesn't mean it never happened or that other people haven't seen it. You can't simply dismiss testimony just like that.


I would guess the latter. Suns don't move like that. And this has been seen at 10 o'clock from the Sun, sometimes 7, and in your case 4 o'clock. Most times our sun remains the same, singular and lonely, and nobody sees a companion. Other times many people observe something. Same has happened with the Moon, Mercury, Venus etc. These are all objects that can move around, and as such they can't be considered "normal" star system components.

[KosmicKat]

Looks to me like a bird (which may have entered the shot after the first / positive image was taken), or a farmer's bird-scaring dummy bird.

[Realeyes]

Hi Onxyknight,
Thanks again for replying! :clap2:
Talking about the Sun, have you seen this?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f5AjF...layer_embedded http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f5AjFVrbAt4&feature=player_embedded

This was on a thread titled ‘the sun has eclipsed’ posted yesterday after the Sun blacked out. I know five people in the UK including myself who witnessed everything going very dark around 7:30am GMT. I just wondered what your thoughts are on this and if this might have something to do with ‘Mirror Matter’ planets? ;)

[Lord Sidious]

Hi Onxyknight,
Thanks again for replying! :clap2:
Talking about the Sun, have you seen this?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f5AjFVrbAt4

This was on a thread titled ‘the sun has eclipsed’ posted yesterday after the Sun blacked out. I know five people in the UK including myself who witnessed everything going very dark around 7:30am GMT. I just wondered what your thoughts are on this and if this might have something to do with ‘Mirror Matter’ planets? ;)

There ya go.

[AlexanderLight]

YouTubber 9Nania predicting the Japan Earthquake on March 8, 2011:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=95zMdTvoqcQ&feature=player_embedded
Video Comment:
"Comet Elenin, Earth, and the Sun were in exact alignment last year on February 27th. That is when the Chile Earthquake happened, and Earth's axis shifted. This year, the same alignment happens March 11-15, and the comet is much closer. PLEASE move away from fault areas during this time!"

Earth's Axis Shifted Again by "EleNin" a.k.a. Nibiru!
The 8.9 Earthquake off the Japanese coast shifted the earth's axis by ten inches (25 cm). Recent scientific studies proved that Earthquakes are influenced/caused by Gravitational Waves. (<- Click to follow link) (http://viewzone.com/gravitywavesx.html)
But, a comet like EleNin (small object & so far away from Earth) could never cause a big "gravitational wave", therefore would not be capable to influence/trigger an earthquake.
Of course, if you are familiar with my articles you already know that Comet EleNin is a smokescreen for planet Nibiru. And this huge planet/star & its orbiting moons are capable of causing huge gravitational waves.
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-q-HYZjqlOis/TX99myR4A3I/AAAAAAAABCc/G9Dvc8t952w/s1600/zz+Nibiru+-+Earth.png
Earth shifted axis by 10 inches (25 cm):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pj4492D5jwg&feature=player_embedded
Nibiru is approaching its perigee (getting closer to Earth). While moving in our direction, its massive size produces great gravitational waves that travel towards our solar system. These gravitational waves influence the seismic activity on Earth (that has been constantly increasing in the past year). The Seismic institutes are hiding this from us, just as I exposed it in my November 26, 2010 article (named "Hundreds of Earthquakes in the past days"). Please read it HERE! (http://humansarefree.com/2010/11/hundereds-of-earthquakes-in-last-days.html)
Back then I had no idea that the increasing seismic activity may be the result of Nibiru's approaching.

Will keep you updated. Love and Light in your lives!

Click for original article on www.HumansAreFree.com! (http://humansarefree.com/2011/03/japan-earthquake-predicted-by-youtubber.html)

[Zook]

The only problem with this line of reasoning is that "Elenin" is much closer this time around. Gravitational forces increase/decrease by the inverse square of the distance. If Chile was unfortunate to receive Elenin's energy last time around at a much farther distance, why didn't Sendai? After all, the Earth rotates every 24 hours. When Chile's 8.8 occurred last year, something of that magnitude would've also been expected near Sendai within 24 hours (e.g. if the cosmic mass approach theory is valid). Also, all the faultines on the Earth this time around would've experienced major tectonic activity within 24 hours of the Sendai EQ (March 11, 2011) ... but why haven't we seen this yet? After all, Elenin is much closer this year than it was back in 2010. Inverse square relationship between force and distance.

Conclusion: either the youtubber had inside information about HAARP activity to be used on Sendai on March 11, 2011 ... or she is promoting doomsday scenarios in the duty of the Mastards who are using Elenin (which does not have the ability to create the desired chaos) to create their designed chaos through HAARP and related advanced Tesla technologies).

:smow::typing:

ps: ...at 12:25 or so , she speaks about visions of Jesus speaking to her. 'Nuff said.

ps2: Michio Kaku has clearly lost his marbles. Quoting Kaku: "And I'm on a mission to save it!" (speaking of the Earth being attacked by asteroids and the sort). Bananacrackers!

[AlexanderLight]

In my opinion, Michio Kaku is a corrupted scientist promoting the NWO concepts (& making us think small).

The girl, on the other hand, I think it's genuine. Her predictions are great and she is in contact with a being that she decodes as an angel. She had visions of us being enslaved by a race of "beasts", which is true if we accept the stories (aka true history) of our "making" (from the first civilizations). We have been genetically altered and enslaved by a reptilian race (aka dragon/serpent). Believe it or not, OUR ANCESTORS (from different civilizations all parted by distance or time) told us so.

[RAKMEiSTER]

cheers butlincat@Ca
Sun Update + Reminder - "Second Sun" Still Visible via NASA Stereo Images - March 16, 2011

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XWw6mfMWWWs&feature=player_embedded

see also my bingo*.png pics somewhere on the forum
some folks dont want the correlation to happend. in 6fold
.end.note.

[RAKMEiSTER]

Sedna
http://i129.photobucket.com/albums/p217/rakmeister/Public/PIA05569.jpg
(was massuploading a space[folder]i got saw this was in it.

[Gaia]

NASA and Russia both claim to have had massive failures of their equipment when it happened. NASA claims it's just compression artifacting, and that it's taking so long to put up the high resolution images because of the equipment failure.

[Lucid Jia]

Good video. This one is well done too.

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[yiolas]

Just found this video. A little on the melodramatic side but interesting non the less.
Subtract all the fluff and there might be something to investigate here.

The main premise is that as Elenin moves deeper into our solar system and aligns with the earth and sun together on various dates large earthquakes have and will occur.

The description: Comet Elenin has arrived and is heading towards earth. It has aligned twice with earth and the sun and on each occasion coincided with one of the most powerful earthquakes in history shifting the earth's axis 8 cm the first time and 25 cm the second. It will pass between earth and the sun later this year. Is it a comet? or a brown dwarf?

Track Elenin at http://ssd.jpl.nasa.gov/sbdb.cgi?sstr=c%2F2010+x1&orb=1


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kbpwr31NZBI

[truthseekerdan]

Outstanding -- apparently this young man did his homework. Bravo!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uy16pQU2yUw

3 parts video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uy16pQU2yUw&feature=mfu_in_order&list=UL

[truthseekerdan]

by yiolas: Track Elenin at http://ssd.jpl.nasa.gov/sbdb.cgi?sstr=c%2F2010+x1&orb=1

According to this NASA Orbit Diagram the Earth will experience 3 days of darkness between Sept. 25-28. This has been prophesied by many long time ago. Don't expect NASA to tell us more...

JMHO

[yiolas]

Hi Dan, well according to the last two videos you and I posted there appears to be a correlation between the direct alignments of the Sun, Earth and Elenin. The guy in the second video even elaborates to say that comet Elenin is part of the dark star solar system along with Nibiru.

Does any one know of an interactive program to verify the transits mentioned in these two videos.
I can't get the Nasa diagram to work on my computer.

[Operator]

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[yiolas]

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[Lifebringer]

Perhaps one of those orbiting Nibiru is a comet or asteroid, not a moon.
Perhaps that is what they call ELENIN

Perhaps that is what is going on as they will enter the atmosphere 1st, and the time when Nibiru comes after, sort of what the nasa person said.
Just saying, maybe they describe it by the size or shape as comet or asteroid. Maybe they aren't big enough to be a moon.

[truthseekerdan]

Here's another video:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NFzvrCa-j10
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NFzvrCa-j10

Link to read the Hopi prophecy: http://www.scribd.com/doc/50642156/Comet-Elenin-and-the-Hopi-Blue-Star-Prophesy

[Icecold]

Dear Onyxknight, Thank you so much for replying to my post of questions; this has been most helpful! Reading your other answers to posts, I realise I am way out of my depth on the technical names and definitions and will set too doing a lot of homework this end to catch up to speed. I have read your answers numerous times, I hope I have understood right your words that the image in the NASSA video of the second body next to our Sun you are calling “borderline M9 red dwarf star” that did not get the intended designated name “Tyche” in the end. Please correct me if I am wrong.

You are correct about everything except that this second sun is ~50.000 AU. away. Not near the sun.

What it seems to be in the video is a planet-sized object with a partial cover going near the sun. I'm saying this because a lot of people would notice it everyday if it was there constantly. And it seems it isn't. Which means that this object is moving around. I find the footage very interesting but I have no information on this object. It is not Nibiru, Sol B nor the body from Omicron Scorpii (to my current understanding). Its something else entirely.


I am particularly interested in this because in late August 2009 whilst on holiday in Wales, UK, I was quietly relaxing in the countryside watching (1 hour before) the approaching sunset; the sky was dimmed by medium cloud cover allowing me to look directly at the sun. What I saw unmistakably were two suns, our usual big sun and another sun much smaller situated around 4 o’clock. I observed this for about 10 minutes before thicker cloud blacked out both suns. I was so transfixed by this scene I didn’t think of taking any photos. I have though seen similar images in photos on utube since. Would this have been ‘M9’ or maybe was I seeing a very large spherical spacecraft??? :doh:

I would guess the latter. Suns don't move like that. And this has been seen at 10 o'clock from the Sun, sometimes 7, and in your case 4 o'clock. Most times our sun remains the same, singular and lonely, and nobody sees a companion. Other times many people observe something. Same has happened with the Moon, Mercury, Venus etc. These are all objects that can move around, and as such they can't be considered "normal" star system components.


Onyxknight you mentioned something curious in a reply to someone else saying, “The sun is affected by other things, not planets.” Could you please share your knowledge on what you mean here? I personally am wondering if this has something to do with the Galactic centre that many are talking about. I can see there are many changes occurring physically on Earth right now as well as a conscious awakening happening in people – somehow IMHO this all ties in some way.

It has had an effect on us since 1994. The galactic center I mean.

I was talking about other effects, who are negative in nature. Somebody is changing the sun's brightness, heat, and cycle work. Through what means and for what purposes I don't know (yet). Those objects seen near the sun in a pattern are there to fix some of the damage done by this unknown source. I have my theories, but will refrain from sharing them for the time being.

In case this gets called a theory for the way its typed too, the sun is acting very strange lately and there is difficulty tracking its cycle system, and working mechanics, because they seem more chaotic. This is unusual, and it has dragged some attention of the scientific community. This is fact, one can google this if in doubts.


On a sidenote, I know in myself ‘something’ big is happening here and have seen with my own eyes luminous green fireballs being shot from deep space into our Earth’s atmosphere that explode like luminous green fireworks to help neutralise ‘something’. I’ve seen huge Motherships in the sky and many other strange things and ‘know’ in no words that we are being helped from advanced civilisations from other worlds and also our very own human Future. These ‘Times’ we live in are very interesting. This Alice is very curious and hungry to understand more. ;)

Thanks again Onyxknight for sharing your time. :dance: :hug:

Looks like somebody's cleaning up the chemtrail mess. Good job observing this.

And you are welcome :).


OnyxKnight:

I'm not going to quote yor entire post. lol

But what you have laid out there is an elaborate theory with no supporting evidence....except other elaborate theories. Any or all of these may or may not be correct. Yet they all remain theories.

Our system being binary used to be regarded a silly conspiracy. Now its a mystery that scratches the curious side of the brains of scientific minds too. So, I hope you do see a difference between an ordinary speculation (for which there are also good enough indicators, usually), and scientific theories/speculations. One hell of a difference. One who is interested in facts, should know this very well.

Now, let's examine the known facts:

There is no logical reason for the Sumerians, as advanced as they were, to attribute everything they learned and advanced to "Gods", who they portrayed in a way that you cannot see them as anything else than intelligent forms of life from another point of space other than our planet. Therefore, logic dictates they were dealing with ETs. If they exist, so did Nibiru FACT # 1.

This is a theory not a fact. A BIG THEORY. NO FACTS only assumptions. If you can't see this then you have a big problem.

The sun is acting strange and very chaotic. Since it is far, far away from its later stage of life (in terms of life, it has just entered its adolescent years), this behavior is very, very unusual. For this to happen to a natural object who has a precise cycle system of working, means that there is an external, artificial cause for this. Sources remain so far unknown, but we do know this should NOT happen. Something is going on, something/somebody is playing with the sun's mechanics. FACT # 2

Agreed

There seems to be more than one planet-sized objects roaming around our Solar System. Some have caught them near the Kuiper Belt, some near Saturn and Jupiter, some near the (Main) Sun. All these cases have sufficient evidence to be considered at least somewhat credible. Since we are in the pursuit of Truth, when things like that are censored or extremely attempted at debunking them, means there is something to it. Especially if we talk about footage, or reports coming from Space Agencies (NASA, JSA etc,.). FACT # 3

Agreed



Brown dwarfs happen when an object gains 13+ Jupiter masses. The new "Tyche" planet is barely 4 times Jupiter's size, and its too cool to be ridiculously considered a brown dwarf. Tyche is a large gas giant, nothing more, or less. Brown dwarf explanation goes out the window. FACT # 4

I do not agree with this statement. Our astrophysics is in no way the truth of anything and this again is an assumption. A theory about formation of brown dwarf stars, nothing more.

The "Tyche" planet is located ~15.000 AU from us. Too far away to be part of our system. Also too far apart to be considered (right now) part of the Sol B system, who is ~50.000 AU away. FACT # 5

This is not a fact, it is an assumption.


Sol B (Or Nemesis if you will). You do remember I said its now a scientific theory right? If scientists are interested and asking for research funding of this, yes, they are serious. There is something nearly a light year away, located somewhere in the Oort cloud, that is causing havoc there, and shooting asteroids and comets near our path. To be able to do that there has to be a stellar-type object there, with enough gravity to be able to do that. FACT # 6

This is what I have said. So we agree on this point





Destruction of Nibiru. There were nice pictures from Space Agencies, and amateur astronomers depicting a curious object approaching from the distance of the Kuiper Belt. Well, there were up until the start of 2003, after which they all disappear from the net. If you were active in these topics (particularly Nibiru/Planet X) you should know about this, the net was flooded with them. After the start of 2003, they all disappear from the net, and nobody neither saw this object again, nor was able to find any pictures depicting it on the net. Its still referred to this day, as "The Raid". Also, the Japanese Space Agency released reports on research on asteroids that said that several of the newly asteroids discovered from 2003 - 2009 show features of being once "a planet". You can find only small confirmations of this in their official websites, the rest has been taken off (for whatever reasons). Nibiru lies in pieces in the Kuiper Belt. Some probes are planned to have missions there in near future, so this will soon to be a confirmed fact. UNCONFIRMED FACT / FACT # 7

THIS IS A MYTH. An assumption...heresay and NOT A FACT. "Unconfirmed fact." .LOLOLOL Funny.


Do you say this because the member has agreed with your theory?

I said that because he put 2 and 2 together, when it comes to what I had said (not everybody gets me the first time they read my post). So, I said that for understanding what I meant. He never said he agreed with me or my "theory", just that it sounds interesting and that he would like to know more.


The fact that you believe in an elaborate theory is commendable, but is no proof of any truth whatsoever.

Apply for the next Chinese space mission. maybe they will let you participate in investigating the Kuiper Belt with them and get your proof.


So, the Annunaki clans ran for their lives after defeat?

Yes, they left the Solar System. Otherwise the conflict might have ended bad for them.

This is your theoretical position and it is nothing more than theory.....no matter how hard you push it.

[Lifebringer]

Nice caption and it does look like it has wings.

[Operator]

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Java and Javascript are 2 different things ...
When you are on that particular JPL page there should be a Java icon on the right bottom of your screen.
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[truthseekerdan]

Latest video from Astrolpatroit: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLv2V-O5QRg


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLv2V-O5QRg

[AlexanderLight]

@truthseekerdan: The last video is wonderful, brother. Astral Patriot is doing a fine job and this is the first recording of the orbiting moons. Soon we will have better videos.

[truthseekerdan]

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g496D3re6zg

MUwSiykMgqQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MUwSiykMgqQ

[Realeyes]

by yiolas: Track Elenin at http://ssd.jpl.nasa.gov/sbdb.cgi?sstr=c%2F2010+x1&orb=1

According to this NASA Orbit Diagram the Earth will experience 3 days of darkness between Sept. 25-28. This has been prophesied by many long time ago. Don't expect NASA to tell us more...

JMHO

Hi Truthseekerdan,
Thank you for these wonderful links.
You mentioned 3 days of darkness on September 25-28th - is this predicted for this year 2011 or is it 2012.
Thanks ;)

[AlexanderLight]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D-Hd17WJ1XA&feature=player_embedded
Description is Very Important, please read bellow!
Video from Stereo probe.
From 0:00 - 1:13 we see the right side of the Sun. At 1:13 the video is cut to skip the Sun's observation.

From 1:13 onward the Sun is placed in the right side of the video. Huge solar explosions are clearly visible from right to left = The Sun is ejecting plasma.
["Star" (definition) = Luminous ball of plasma held together by gravity. The nearest star to Earth, is our Sun. Star = Sun = giant ball of plasma.]

At 1:57 Nibiru starts to be visible in the left corner. Its moons are not visible.
Two most probable reasons:
- not proper lenses (its moons don't generate light, like Nibiru and our Sun);
- the image is too zoomed;

At 3:40 a massive unidentified flying object appears from the right side. It's either luminous itself or it's illuminated by Nibiru and our Sun. Could be an orbiting moon? / Would the orbiting moons be visible with these lenses?

At 3:56 Nibiru does something extremely important! It ejects plasma, just like our Sun, proving once and for all that this object is a Sun, not a planet (example: Venus, like NASA suggested and the ignorants rushed to believe).
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-dYWvApjIBiw/TZMCE4qCHXI/AAAAAAAABHw/Bko6UjOuxeI/s1600/zz+Nibiru+Ejecting+Plasma.png
This is the ultimate proof that we have a second Sun approaching. You may call it however you want, but I will call it Nibiru - just like our ancestors did.
One of its orbiting moons is probably Planet X (meaning "the planet of the crossing"), a planet able to sustain life (according to our ancestors).

Pictures with two Suns in the sky:
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-bi0hqU5qHtU/TZMLyiiaJdI/AAAAAAAABIM/hLkqkDLHaRo/s1600/zz+9.png
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-78c1FIjnIlA/TZMP5ZCfszI/AAAAAAAABIc/Nm8qCQB9o8I/s1600/zz+11.gif
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-U_pTYITLwzQ/TZMP9XjIavI/AAAAAAAABIs/QVDFGigwbQM/s1600/zz+15.jpg
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-tIqh1savrEU/TZMP_OtfgGI/AAAAAAAABIw/HXGuBSFP7IM/s1600/zz+15.png

Click Here for the Original Article and a Larger set of pictures analysed! (http://humansarefree.com/2011/03/nibiru-ejecting-plasma-just-like-our.html)

[the_flyingboy]

i think i found nibiru on google earth.....instructions:go to google earth then sky view and typy co od:23 34'12.72 its on the left hand side of the Pleiades between HD 24802 and 33 Tau but closer to 33 Tau and you have to zoom in to see it

[Normalguy31]

Great thread, and awesome link. I have never seen some of those pics of the double sun rise before! Thanks!

[truthseekerdan]

Thank you for the update, Alex! Soon we'll see it with the naked eye...

Blessings, ~ Dan

¤=[Post Update]=¤


i think i found nibiru on google earth.....instructions:go to google earth then sky view and typy co od:23 34'12.72 its on the left hand side of the Pleiades between HD 24802 and 33 Tau but closer to 33 Tau and you have to zoom in to see it

How did you come up with the coordinates, may I ask? TIA

[Realeyes]

Great Thread! Brilliant link! Thank you!

The photo where the second sun is at 4 o'clock is exactly how i saw it back in 2009 on holiday with my naked eyes on a semi cloudy day an hour before sunset began. I was so transfixed at the time, it never occured to me to grab a camera. I am thrilled to see someone had the sense to take a pic. :(

[Nortreb]

i think i found nibiru on google earth.....instructions:go to google earth then sky view and typy co od:23 34'12.72 its on the left hand side of the Pleiades between HD 24802 and 33 Tau but closer to 33 Tau and you have to zoom in to see it

Ciao the_flyingboy!
On what side of Tau 33 is it? At the 4:00 side of it?

Peace,
Nortreb

[TimelessDimensions]

In the sequal to 2001: A Space Odyssey, called 2010 - something something;

Jupiter implodes and becomes a second Sun.

.. and Jupiter has been looking rather different recently.

[truthseekerdan]

"The Maya have a second prophecy about a red star, but are not speaking on this yet."

Read more:

http://www.poleshift2011.com/index.php?p=1_24_Mayan-Elders-Break-Silence

http://www.poleshift2011.com/index.php?p=1_10_-Nibiru-Evidence-

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_s88scOGAg14/SdxzcIyOUdI/AAAAAAAAAYA/1r3VBKgAlic/s400/nibiru_path.jpg

[Revere]

I know very little about this but I do have some questions for anyone who knows more.

1. Two Sun photos could they be camera "artifacts"?
2. Nibiru Plasma...could that be a comet tail?
3. Should not tons of amateur astronomers be shouting about this by now or very very soon?

And I apologize for my ignorance if it is that ignorant!

Peace,

-R-

[Solphilos]

I know very little about this but I do have some questions for anyone who knows more.

1. Two Sun photos could they be camera "artifacts"?
2. Nibiru Plasma...could that be a comet tail?
3. Should not tons of amateur astronomers be shouting about this by now or very very soon?

And I apologize for my ignorance if it is that ignorant!

Peace,

-R-

No ignorance at all, it is the voice of reason that compels your questions. Your logic is spot on, don't digress! :o
Pertaining to the above photos, they are all either artifacts or complete fakes, whats relevant is that they are not actual images of an incoming celestial body. If it were, there would not only be a few images floating around on the net, we would all be witnessing it with our own eyes and it would be acknowledged by those with real knowledge of astronomy.

[Icecold]

There is something wrong with calling this STAR ...Niburu. Don't you think? It would be a good idea to get the story straight. It seems that the fact that a sun can eject solar flares would be ringing some bells among the Annunaki fans. Surely Niburu if it is a habitable planet must be a satellite of the sun TYCHE??????

Or are we to conclude that the Annunaki live on a sun????

Some stories need some adjustment. I'd like to see this straightened out once and for all, because at the moment there are conflicting myths.

[truthseekerdan]

I know very little about this but I do have some questions for anyone who knows more.

1. Two Sun photos could they be camera "artifacts"?
2. Nibiru Plasma...could that be a comet tail?
3. Should not tons of amateur astronomers be shouting about this by now or very very soon?

And I apologize for my ignorance if it is that ignorant!

Peace,

-R-

Revere, check this other thread (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?16101-Proof-that-Comet-Elenin-doesn-t-exists%21-We-have-Nibiru-instead%21&p=186239&viewfull=1#post186239) if you did not have yet...

[Icecold]

Speaking of PROPHECIES.......

The Hopi Indian story is looking very good at present.....

http://www.crystalinks.com/hopi2.html




http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u0n4QG8fvpw



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RBRop2LHszA&feature=related



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ftWaL1G4w54&feature=related

[Calz]

Thank you AlexanderLight ... some great work there.

Though I have believed in the binary star concept for a long time (very common in the universe) I had been dismissing many of these types of photos.

It is coming in from so many people from so many parts of the world it is getting very hard to discount.

Common sense clearly questions *WHY* would the Vatican spend so much of their precious $$$ on telescopes if not for a VERY good reason?

I will add this from James Gilliland since his messages don't often get beyond the Up at the Ranch thread. Make of it what you will:


I was in deep meditation and was given two dates. I was told Nibiru is real and it will be coming in September where its influences will be undeniably felt. I was also told it is already perturbing the Earth and all the other planets in the solar system. I was also told after November it will be over. The next thing they said was a slow moving ship of massive proportions will be here in November. They are ancient ancestors, extremely evolved beings; which are here to help. There are many prophecies about this in many indigenous cultures. There are days of darkness and days of light with many upheavals such as quakes, volcanoes, and tsunamis. This link just may put all the pieces together and the science behind this event. I would caution not to get into fear as Baba Ji says it is time to lovingly and joyously prepare and don't blame the messinger. I hope I am wrong about this but not saying anything would weigh heavy on my soul. Lets ask for some major divine intervention on this.

[truthseekerdan]

by yiolas: Track Elenin at http://ssd.jpl.nasa.gov/sbdb.cgi?sstr=c%2F2010+x1&orb=1

According to this NASA Orbit Diagram the Earth will experience 3 days of darkness between Sept. 25-28. This has been prophesied by many long time ago. Don't expect NASA to tell us more...

JMHO

Hi Truthseekerdan,
Thank you for these wonderful links.
You mentioned 3 days of darkness on September 25-28th - is this predicted for this year 2011 or is it 2012.
Thanks ;)

Hi Realeyes, if you checked the link you probably saw that Elenin (supposedly a comet), will pass between Earth and Sun almost in the middle orbits of Venus and Mercury on the mentioned dates of this 2011 year.

Here is the link again (need java enabled browser i.e. "google chrome"): http://ssd.jpl.nasa.gov/sbdb.cgi?sstr=c%2F2010+x1&orb=1

[crosby]

this is a great thread. so much that i didn't know, and still don't know. but it truly is worthy of dissection to keep it moving forward to find out the truth.
warmest regards, corson

[AlexanderLight]

There is something wrong with calling this STAR ...Niburu. Don't you think? It would be a good idea to get the story straight. It seems that the fact that a sun can eject solar flares would be ringing some bells among the Annunaki fans. Surely Niburu if it is a habitable planet must be a satellite of the sun TYCHE??????

Or are we to conclude that the Annunaki live on a sun????

Some stories need some adjustment. I'd like to see this straightened out once and for all, because at the moment there are conflicting myths.

Nibiru is thought to be the dark star (reddish color) orbited by numerous planets / moons. The closest planet to Nibiru is known as Planet X because it's positioned at the crossing of the moons:
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_u3D7kCdnYZs/TS2yAoZRioI/AAAAAAAAAfM/P0Y5fdAn1ec/s1600/Nibiru+cross.png
But personally I think that we understood the Sun's name wrong. Nibiru means "the planet of the crossing", so it must refer to Planet X. The Sun probably has a different name.


Read more about scientific facts that blend together with our true history here:
1. Correlations: Nibiru - NASA & Modern Science (Part One) (http://humansarefree.com/2011/01/correlations-nibiru-nasa-modern-science.html)
2. Correlations: Nibiru - NASA & Modern Science (Part Two) (http://humansarefree.com/2011/01/correlations-nibiru-nasa-modern-science_12.html)

If you want to read everything about Nibiru / Planet X, please spend some time reading all articles in THIS SECTION (http://humansarefree.com/search/label/Nibiru)!

Love and Peace to all! <3

[Calz]

There is something wrong with calling this STAR ...Niburu. Don't you think? It would be a good idea to get the story straight. It seems that the fact that a sun can eject solar flares would be ringing some bells among the Annunaki fans. Surely Niburu if it is a habitable planet must be a satellite of the sun TYCHE??????

Or are we to conclude that the Annunaki live on a sun????

Some stories need some adjustment. I'd like to see this straightened out once and for all, because at the moment there are conflicting myths.

Okay ... I'll bite (tho chewing Ice hurts my teeth :)

What is your take here. I *do* respect your take and consider what you post quite seriously.

Don't always agree but I know you wouldn't have it any other way :)

[king anthony]

2. Nibiru Plasma...could that be a comet tail?

The ancients referred to the said as the 'winged' or (most common) 'horned' planet. From view, two 'trails' come from either side of the planet, moving out, up and back - making the planet appear to have 'horns'.

[iceman]

i took this pic with a cell phone about three weeks ago post on another nibiru thread though i would post it here to.Picture was taken at 4:30 in the afternoon
peace
iceman

[truthseekerdan]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AYIncRG-tVI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AYIncRG-tVI

[AlexanderLight]

NIBIRU - Planet X Admitted by Scientists! NASA shuts down Space Telescope ‘WISE’!
"They’ve found the largest planet ‘IN OUR SOLAR SYSTEM’! It orbits our Sun in a far elliptical orbit, and is said to be 4x’s the size of Jupiter! It has a helium and hydrogen atmosphere and it has moons! Astronomers theorize that this could be a planet born in another star system and captured by ours.
This planet fits the EXACT description of Nibiru - Planet X!
The current name of the former "Planet X" is now Tyche, a name derived from the name of a Greek goddess that "governed the destiny of a city," according to the Mail.
But why would they choose this name for a new planet? Is Tyche governing the destiny of our Planet?"

(...)

NASA WISE Telescope shows a Giant Planet next to the Solar System
February 13, 2011.
"NASA confirms that is tracking Hercolubus, at the moment scientists call it as Tyche."

(So they admit Hercolubus = Tyche = A giant planet in our solar system, that orbits our Sun in an elliptical orbit. Our ancestors called it Nibiru/Planet X, but NASA chose to name it Tyche).

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YWaufPhLmIY&feature=player_embedded#at=51
"The NASA Wide-field Infrared Survey Explorer (WISE) telescope is showing a giant planet next to the Solar System. Tyche (Hercolubus) is 4 times bigger than Jupiter and orbit at the outer edge of the Solar System.Scientists are just analyzing the data gathered by a NASA space telescope WISE, it shows a giant planet up to four times the mass of Jupiter lurking in the outer Oort Cloud, the most remote region of the solar system. The orbit of Tyche (Hercolubus) would be 15,000 times farther from the Sun than the Earth’s, and 375 times farther than Pluto’s.

The first tranche of data is to be released in April, and astrophysicists John Matese and Daniel Whitmire from the University of Louisiana at Lafayette think it will reveal Tyche (Hercolubus) within two years. This means that NASA considers impossible to cover-up the Hercolubus approaching in two years. Once Tyche (Hercolubus) has been located, other telescopes could be pointed at it to confirm it. The International Astronomical Union (IAU) may create a whole new category for Tyche, Professor Matese said."

Here's the entire article:
NIBIRU - Planet X Admitted by Scientists! NASA shuts down Space Telescope ‘WISE’! (http://humansarefree.com/2011/02/nibiru-planet-x-admitted-by-scientists.html)

P.S. Thank you Dan, you are pro. All videos are great, bro!

[AlexanderLight]

There are two theories:
1. Nibiru is giant planet with a reddish atmosphere that can sustain life. It has numerous orbiting by moons. This theory is held in place by the name itself: NIBIRU means "The planet of the crossing".

2. Nibiru is a "dark star"* orbited by numerous planets / moons. The closest planet is known as Planet X (because its positioned at the crossing of the other moons) and it's able to sustain life.

*dark star = has multiple meanings, but the one in this case is that the Sun is very old and dying; therefore the generated light is lower and reddish).

After seeing the Sun shooting plasma, I think it's safe to say that Nibiru is one and the same with Planet X. The Sun must have another name (Nemesis or something else).

Nibiru, Planet X, Tyche, Nemesis, Hercolobus, EleNin, etc. are all names that point in the same direction: this small solar system that approaches. At this point we have evidence to point its existence but I cannot say for sure how each object of this solar system is named. My goal was to prove its existence, now I am turning the page and start a new chapter.

The evidence is super-convincing at this point: - we have historical accounts from different civilizations (for both Nibiru and two Suns in the sky);
- we have proofs that scientists are looking for it because they had detected gravitational "anomalies" that prove its existence;
- and recently we have pictures and videos showing this small solar system closing in;

Love and Peace to all! <3

[Humble Janitor]

I'm surprised people didn't automatically try to debunk the existence of Nibiru, Tyche, etc.

It's a refreshing change from ATS where anything about Nibiru is quickly moved to a hoax forum.

That being said, are we sure that the photo of two suns is not some kind of illusion? Venus? Sun dog?

[truthseekerdan]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Twf_EAaQyZc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Twf_EAaQyZc

If you want to listen to the whole broadcast here's the link...http://www.larouchepac.com/node/17758

Heavens above! WISE space telescope is shut down 2/17/11
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/41654555/ns/technology_and_science-space/

Many people are suggesting this cluster is a mini-solar system heading in our direction. If this is true, then it will be approximately .352 AU from Earth on Sept 27, 2011, and .232 AU or 21 million miles away from Earth on Oct 17, 2011.

The sky coordinates of this cluster courtesy of Terral 03 is...
11h 48m 13.71s, 13° 13' 12.1"

Comet ELENIN? (E)xtinction (L)evel (E)vent (N)ibiru (I)s (N)ear?

[Alfa]

Just for clarification on the Nibiru, Planet X subject.

Nibiru has been classified as a hoax due to lots of people taking pictures of the Sun and calling the Lens Flare, Nibiru.
If you guys wants more information on the subject i recommend reading the books of Zacharias Sitching (sorry don't know how to spell his name correctly).
But know something, the Vatican would not put a very expensive telescope on the south pole just to fool around, they know something is up there, even if its not Nibiru, it is something BIG!

[AlexanderLight]

- Our true history says Nibiru is real (multiple historical accounts from different & distant civilizations);
- NASA and the modern astronomers acknowledged the existence of a giant object/planet, part of our solar system having an elliptical orbit around our Sun. I have articles proving this on my blog;
- Amateur astronomers from ALL over the planet are seeing a giant with orbiting moons approaching Earth;

So, I don't have to prove to anyone that Nibiru exists (I know it does because I have eyes & ears to see & hear the truth). Those who don't believe it's existence have to prove their claims, not us. They have to prove why history wrote about it, why their beloved & corrupted NASA finally speaks about it (but under another name) & why all the amateur astronomers are able to see it.

There is more to life than some people are ready to accept. Open your hearts and you will know the truth! Love & Peace <3

[Thefrenzy1978]

I found this last week on youtube not sure has been posted heres a link http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GnnbSn8yQkw

[Floor]

Hello AlexanderLight,

Do you act upon what you think is coming?

We live in Holland, around sea level, on a peninsula and we feel the urge to move. Even before we knew this information. It is as if my body want to jump away of this ground.
Also, last autumn, for several weeks, i woke up, with the strong urge to prepare for survival circumstances and I want to buy food and water and so on.

Do you recognize feelings of such a kind?

Love

[truthseekerdan]

Hello AlexanderLight,

Do you act upon what you think is coming?

We live in Holland, around sea level, on a peninsula and we feel the urge to move. Even before we knew this information. It is as if my body want to jump away of this ground.
Also, last autumn, for several weeks, i woke up, with the strong urge to prepare for survival circumstances and I want to buy food and water and so on.

Do you recognize feelings of such a kind?

Love

I will say, follow your own intuition. You'll be glad you did... :nod:

[dim]

Obvious camera lens distortions
can also be seen starting at 0:40 of the clip, lens flare from the sun, nothing to do with the coronal mass ejections.

this is another clip of the same glare
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Inv9q36BbAU

at 2:45

[Floor]

I will say, follow your own intuition. You'll be glad you did... :nod:

Yes, that's what we are doing. Thank you!! :)

It is so strange to arrange my life/our familie's life around this, while it is mostly even impossible to talk about it with the people around us. That feels almost as if I/we live in a different world and I am wrong about all these feelings and preparations. But I feel very serious about it.

I am interested if other people are acting upon it as well. But perhaps, this should be another topic..

[Davidallany]

i took this pic with a cell phone about three weeks ago post on another nibiru thread though i would post it here to.Picture was taken at 4:30 in the afternoon
peace
iceman
Howdy, iceman, I think that small orb, is a reflection. Unless you saw it with your naked eye.

[AlexanderLight]

Hello AlexanderLight,

Do you act upon what you think is coming?

We live in Holland, around sea level, on a peninsula and we feel the urge to move. Even before we knew this information. It is as if my body want to jump away of this ground.
Also, last autumn, for several weeks, i woke up, with the strong urge to prepare for survival circumstances and I want to buy food and water and so on.

Do you recognize feelings of such a kind?

Love

Brother, please trust your instincts because this is how your higher self manifests in the physical reality. Your higher self is telling you to move, so why not listening if you have the means to do it?

Please, allow me to share some answers from David (a child that came through incarnation on Earth from another planet).

"Aryana: Many live in apartment buildings. What about them?
David: I don't know. But each one can chose where to live.
A: No. I don't agree! The people don't know what to do and they are confused.
D: They know what to do, but ignore it. They should do everything they feel and desire!
(...)
A: Many say that we should move into the mountains.
D: Maybe those who say it, really have to move! Each one stays where it must stay and where is best for him."

Nibiru or another reason, you feel that you need to move. So do it!

Love & Wisdom in your life, brother!

[tkh123186]

This trailer is a must watch. Talk about hiding stuff in plain sight!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x_xsm46s2Gg - Melancholia Trailer

x_xsm46s2Gg

[mod-edit: I combined a comment from a separate thread that An Cailleach posted minutes later for this video with this thread, to make one combined post. - Paul. ]

[firstlook]

John Hurt stars in this. I suggest people also see him in "The Oxford Murders".

Good stuff. :)

[s3nru]

interesting that it's made by Lars Von Trier. I always had a film school admiration for his brash cinematic style, but the fact that he's doing a movie about planet x after creating 'antichrist', one of the most philosophically frightening films i've seen- it makes me look at this Bjork quote in a less humorous light:


"I was talking to a friend about it recently and I told him that the thing about making that film that upset me most was how cruel Lars is to the woman he is working with. Not that I can't take it, because I'm pretty tough and completely capable of defending myself, but because my ideals of the ultimate creator were shattered. And my friend said "What did you expect? All major directors are "sexist", a maker is not necessarily an expert in human rights or female/male equality!
My answer was that you can take quite sexist film directors like Woody Allen or Stanley Kubrick and still they are the one that provide the soul to their movies. In Lars von Trier's case it is not so and he knows it. He needs a female to provide his work soul. And he envies them and hates them for it. So he has to destroy them during the filming. And hide the evidence. What saves him as an artist, though, is that he is so painfully honest that even though he will manage to cover up his crime in the "real" world (he is a genius to set things up that everybody thinks it is just his female-actress-at-the-moment imagination, that she is just hysterical or pre-menstrual), his films become a documentation of this "soul-robbery". Breaking the Waves is the clearest example of that.
bjork."
From the www.bjork.com 4um, posted by Björk in response to a question about her conflict with director Lars von Trier during the production of Dancer in the Dark.

[Alfa]

Very interesting trailer.
We all know that the hollywood industry is a nice mirror to what is to happen next, or give us clues about certain subjects.
We should pay close attention to any details this movie might have.

Thanks for the thread!!

[Teakai]

That looks...depressing.

Good name for it :)

[nearing]

Very interesting trailer.
We all know that the hollywood industry is a nice mirror to what is to happen next, or give us clues about certain subjects.
We should pay close attention to any details this movie might have.

Thanks for the thread!!

Except, I hear this particular director isn't 'Hollywood' at all.

[Chrononaut]

Dear Avalonians,

Here I am again with an update I had placed on the previous thread of Ms Darla Ken Jensen Pearce, I could not resist sharing this with you, follow up, http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?17935-We-are-Coming!/page2 I then put a response where Ms. Ann Eller was telling a amazing story, something came on to me when I was watching this video. On 0:54:45 Min Ms. Ann Eller was telling about a event that I can almost compare it with Agape's Bodhgaya event story. It's about these beautiful beings who had an interaction with Agape, http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?3647-The-Bodhgaya-Event-Eva-Zemanova-s-detailed-personal-experience On the video of Ann Eller, notice at 0:58:97 Min you can see the outlines of these beings that suddenly appeared in front of them on so far the story goes.. What surprised me is that the sketches in this video as you could see scary enough are almost exactly the same as the sketches of the pdf documents of Agape, check on the pages 54 and 55! I had sent a private message to Agape with the question if she do agree on this and if she don't mind for dropping a new thread on the topic and link her threads to this threat on the forum for further research.
She agree with me on both questions.This is the reason why I started this thread, any way I am waiting with patient for your reactions and questions on this one.
For the ones who didn't be able to view this video yet can see it below.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j5y1dUPfvuo

Positive vibrations to you all..

Namaste,

Chrononaut.

[Rocky_Shorz]

http://youtu.be/qYiaYiP3B2I

[Chrononaut]

http://youtu.be/qYiaYiP3B2I

If ye do not learn from the past, he would must feel the suffering of what ye has caused.

[MariaDine]

http://www.eldiario24.com/nota/218482/un-video-muestra-ovnis-sobrevolando-la-planta-nuclear-de-fukushima.html

Namasté

[truthseekerdan]

Comet ELEnin Decoded - PART II - Stop Thinking 3D


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vs05u2Jvt0k
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vs05u2Jvt0k

Decoding Comet Elenin Part III - Learning State & Synchronicities


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9aGzTfsYUC0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9aGzTfsYUC0

[Snowbird]

This article below, I found during one of my searches for info about Nibiru. First, notice the year that it was written or posted.

I've read on this thread that several known people have stated that Nibiru was destroyed in 2003. This was written in 2002.

This author states that Nibiru was also known as Marduk. He also states that what appears in space is actually Nibiru's shadow many light years away. Are we talking brown dwarf here?

Nibiru and the Anunnaki

by

Amitakh Stanford

September 11th, 2002


Due to a great collision, the Earth and the planets and moons of our solar system were severely affected. Nibiru too suffered great damage as a result of this celestial collision. This caused the Anunnaki to come to Earth in search of a permanent home. They did not come to search for physical gold, as Sitchin hypothesizes. Oddly, gold is not a native mineral to Earth, so the Anunnaki would not be expecting it on Earth. Nor did they come to Earth to mine for gold to make a shield to protect their ailing atmospheric conditions on Nibiru (If they did, they did not succeed in saving their planet, because their planet was destroyed). What appears in space is really the shadow of Nibiru, many light years away. However, the Anunnaki were delighted to find gold on earth because they used it for ornamentation. They also imported many slaves to mine the gold, and they used many of the Anunnaki lower classes to do the same.

Since their home, Nibiru, was destroyed, the Anunnaki Elite and their cadre of attendants were forced to become transient, with the majority of them living in a huge spacecraft (like a city) that orbited the Earth.

http://xeeatwelve.net/articles/the_anunnaki.htm

[Carmody]

* Anonymous insider sources claim it was destroyed in 2003;

* Stewart Swerdlow also says it was destroyed in 2003;

* Alex Collier also says it was destroyed 2003;

* Various other people who claim extraterrestrial contact have also claimed the same.

Interesting...as I 'peaked' and 'timeline shifted' in 2003. Either I shifted, or the world did..as I knew nothing of all these things at the time..but I sure felt the dang thing shift. Woke up one morning and it was all different. Subtly different. Somewhere near the end of 2002 and the start of 2003. I recall it was warm out (summer-ish) so it had to be late 2002 or past.. er.. may in 2003.

[Thefrenzy1978]

ok i have a web site to anyone who is intrested in this subject go to the top of web site and click research lots of info http://rabbithole2.com/

[truthseekerdan]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zjD5aayptXk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zjD5aayptXk

[AlexanderLight]

This article below, I found during one of my searches for info about Nibiru. First, notice the year that it was written or posted.

I've read on this thread that several known people have stated that Nibiru was destroyed in 2003. This was written in 2002.

This author states that Nibiru was also known as Marduk. He also states that what appears in space is actually Nibiru's shadow many light years away. Are we talking brown dwarf here?

Nibiru and the Anunnaki

by

Amitakh Stanford

September 11th, 2002


Due to a great collision, the Earth and the planets and moons of our solar system were severely affected. Nibiru too suffered great damage as a result of this celestial collision. This caused the Anunnaki to come to Earth in search of a permanent home. They did not come to search for physical gold, as Sitchin hypothesizes. Oddly, gold is not a native mineral to Earth, so the Anunnaki would not be expecting it on Earth. Nor did they come to Earth to mine for gold to make a shield to protect their ailing atmospheric conditions on Nibiru (If they did, they did not succeed in saving their planet, because their planet was destroyed). What appears in space is really the shadow of Nibiru, many light years away. However, the Anunnaki were delighted to find gold on earth because they used it for ornamentation. They also imported many slaves to mine the gold, and they used many of the Anunnaki lower classes to do the same.

Since their home, Nibiru, was destroyed, the Anunnaki Elite and their cadre of attendants were forced to become transient, with the majority of them living in a huge spacecraft (like a city) that orbited the Earth.

http://xeeatwelve.net/articles/the_anunnaki.htm

I don't know how Stanford came to that conclusion, but here is the short history after the Sumerian and Babylonian writings (2 civilizations who left their history written):

Sumerian - Babylonian - NASA correlations
Ancient Sumerian & Babylonian texts indicate that the Earth (" Tiamat ") was struck by a large planet, which moved it into its present orbit, and created the Asteroid Belt.

Nibiru came into the solar system on its clockwise elliptical course, struck Tiamat (Earth), which was moving in its ordained counterclockwise orbit. One of Nibiru's satellites struck Tiamat first, followed by two more of Nibiru's moons. Then Nibiru itself, an enormous planetary body, struck Tiamat, smashing one half of the planet into pieces, which became the "Great Band" (Asteroid Belt). The other half of the planet, which was struck by a smaller moon of Nibiru, was moved into a new orbit, along with a chunk of material which became its moon (or Nibiru "gave" us one of its Moons). The new planet was then called "KI," meaning "cleaved one." The Earth's original moons were dispersed, many changing the direction of their orbits.
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_u3D7kCdnYZs/TS24hcBPgEI/AAAAAAAAAfQ/DMoSpL-yXdU/s1600/planetx2.jpg

[How could they invent such (accurate and) logical astronomical events, 6,000 years ago? They didn't! The Anunnaki told them].

I. Very short history of Nibiru and the Anunnaki after the Sumerian tablets.
Nibiru is/was one of the home planets of the Anunnaki ("those who from Heaven to Earth came") extraterrestrials who interfered in our evolution by mixing their DNA with our very primitive ancestors. The result was the Cro-Magnon human (known as "Homo Sapiens", about 150,000 - 350,000 years ago).

Planet X has a 3,600 years elliptic orbit which the Anunnaki called it "1 SAR".
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_u3D7kCdnYZs/TS2ut4giGOI/AAAAAAAAAfI/czXJEKZlvAk/s1600/nibiru-orbit.jpg

Nibiru's atmosphere was rapidly degrading so they came to Earth searching for gold, which could be sprayed in the atmosphere as a very fine powder, "healing" it.
(Our modern scientists came to this conclusion few years ago, probably without having any idea of the 6,000 years old Sumerian tablets).
The Anunnaki needed slaves to work in the mines, but the humans of that time were very primitive. The Reptilians genetically upgraded us into a more evolved specie that could use tools and machines. We have been created to be their slaves.

I've wanted to skip this part because it's still hard for some to accept it...BUT it's our true history. Our ancestors wrote it for us to read it.
Short Addition:
The Sumerians wrote on the clay tablets, that after the humans increased in numbers, Enlil (Earth's ruler and the son of Anu - Nibiru's king) stated that "the humans became hard to control", so they made a strategic move: they built underground cities and moved there. On the surface they left as Earth's leaders hybrids with reptilian fathers and human mothers. They were taught from generation to generation their true origins and how to protect their pure Anunnaki DNA by interbreeding. Our days leaders are their descendants. What we call "secret societies" are "clubs" where all of them know who they are. All the established institutions are their tools to control us. What we call "satanism" is their worship of the reptilian "gods" and demons. The first priests were pure DNA hybrids who conducted the human sacrifices all over the planet. The organs and the blood were placed in underground chambers beneath pyramids or temples that communicated with their underground cities. From those chambers, the reptilians took them and ate them.

II. Correlations between Nibiru (Planet X) and NASA.
In an article entitled "A History of Planet X - From the Present Day Search to the Seeding of Life on Earth", Alan Alford writes that the discovery of new planets in the last two hundred years owes more to mathematics than to bigger telescopes. Mathematical irregularities in the orbits of the outer planets, in particular, strange wobbles and gravitational anomalies noted in the orbits of Uranus, Neptune and Pluto, have prompted astronomers over the past hundred years to search for a large planetary body in the outer solar system. Based on mathematical evidence, astronomers have been so sure of the reality of this planet that they named it Planet X. The name stands for the tenth planet, as well as the mathematical symbol for an unknown quantity.

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_u3D7kCdnYZs/TS2yAoZRioI/AAAAAAAAAfM/P0Y5fdAn1ec/s1600/Nibiru+cross.png

The Anunnaki and Sumerians also referred to Nibiru as Planet X. And the name Nibiru itself means "The planet of the crossing". Another interesting correlation is that the Anunnaki "gods" wore cross necklaces. Today we think that our cross-shaped pendants have to do with Christ's crucification, but the Anunnaki were depicted wearing them with 4,000 years before this event:
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_u3D7kCdnYZs/TREAtRhpydI/AAAAAAAAAVY/pzTHMzQB44g/s1600/Anunnaki_King_Gate.jpg
(Anunnaki 'god' in human form, depicted pushing buttons on a device + Wearing a cross necklace 4,000 years before Christ + Wearing a watch or wrist device + Holding a 'king-type staff'. Every important figure wears a staff: royalty figures, army figures, religious figures, etc. What was really the purpose or the meaning of the first staffs? - Remember, even the mage & wizards legends depict them wearing powerful/magical staffs).

On June 17, 1982, a NASA press release from Ames Research Center officially recognized the possibility of "some kind of mystery object" beyond the outermost planets. Various press releases around this time confirmed that scientists were indeed looking for the infamous Planet X. For instance, Astronomy magazine published an article in December of 1981 entitled "Search for the Tenth Planet".

In addition, Newsweek covered the story of Planet X on June 28, 1982 in an article entitled "Does the Sun Have a Dark Companion?" This article implied that the tenth planet actually orbits a two sun (binary star) system, but we cannot see the other sun because it is a "dark" star. The article stated:
-"A 'dark companion' could produce the unseen force that seems to tug at Uranus and Neptune, speeding them up at one point in their orbits and holding them back as they pass. The best bet is a dark star orbiting at least 50 billion miles beyond Pluto. It is most likely either a brown dwarf, or a neutron star. Others suggest it is a tenth planet since a companion star would tug at the other planets, not just Uranus and Neptune."

The Washington Post covered the story of Planet X on the front page on December 31, 1983 called "Mystery Heavenly Body Discovered." This story reported that the Infrared Astronomical Satellite (IRAS) detected heat from an object about fifty billion miles away. A report of an interview with chief scientist Gerry Neugebauer from Jet Propulsion Laboratories appeared in the story. The article stated:
"A heavenly body possibly as large as the giant planet Jupiter and possibly so close to Earth that it would be part of this solar system has been found in the direction of the constellation Orion by an orbiting telescope aboard the U.S. infrared astronomical satellite. 'All I can tell you is that we don't know what it is,' said Gerry Neugebauer, chief IRAS scientist."

An article by R. Harrington in The Astronomical Journal dated October 1988 supplied the details of continuing mathematical modeling of this planet. The article suggested the mysterious planet was three to four times the size of Earth, and its position was three times further from the Sun than Pluto. Mathematical modeling also suggested that Planet X had an extreme elliptical orbit of 30 degrees. A NASA/ARC press release published in Newsweek on July 13, 1987 disclosed that "an eccentric 10th planet may - or may not - be orbiting the Sun." The article stated that NASA research scientist John Anderson "has a hunch Planet X is out there, though nowhere near the other nine." The article concluded, "if he is right, two of the most intriguing puzzles of space science might be solved: what caused mysterious irregularities in the orbits of Uranus and Neptune during the 19th Century? And what killed off the dinosaurs 26 million years ago."

Click Here to Read the Entire Article! (http://humansarefree.com/2011/01/correlations-nibiru-nasa-modern-science.html)

[AlexanderLight]

Important scientific facts that you must know:
-The March 16, 1999 announcement by NASA at the 30th Lunar and Planetary Science Conference in Houston of the theory of the origin of Earth's Moon as a catastrophic collision with a "Mars-size planet."

-Hubble's recent discovery of 18 (at last count) stars, and numerous Jupiter-size planets (last count 9) with highly elliptical orbits and retrograde (counterclockwise) orbits. Such orbits are now understood to be quite the norm in nearby solar systems, although they are considered peculiar in our own.

-The 1994 announcement by NASA of a one-mile wide moon orbiting the 33-mile wide asteroid Ida, which follows the expectation that if a planetary body in this solar system exploded (or collided), the debris will be gravitationally bound in orbits around a primary body.

-The discovery of water, atmosphere and perhaps previous life on Mars, the Moon and Europa.

-There is a strange gravitational "pull" on Uranus, Neptune and Pluto, which indicates there is another body of significant size beyond it.

The true knowledge always reaches those interested. Believe me, the truth will set you free!
Click Here to Read the Entire Article + 'Nibiru Cover Up' (long articles that I cannot post here) (http://humansarefree.com/2011/01/correlations-nibiru-nasa-modern-science_12.html).

[shiva777]

Stewart swerdlow on the comet

Elenin
Posted On April 10th, 2011 by Stewart
By now, most of you have heard all the hype about the Comet Elenin which has entered our solar system and appears to be making a bee line for Planet Earth. Some say it is a brown dwarf, others think it is Niburu, while many think this will cause destruction on Earth and become an extinction level event for humankind.

OK. Let’s look at this. Elenin is hurdling at us from the edge of our solar system. I already stated numerous times that Niburu was destroyed in April of 2003. So, it is not Niburu.

If a brown dwarf star entered our solar system, it could not be kept a secret. It would be too large, cause many disturbances and amateur astronomers would have reported it to countless unconventional sites.

Elenin is due to be in our neighborhood somewhere towards September/ October of this year. Yes, many numerological and alphabetical comparisons have been made with this comet and the one depicted in the movie, “Deep Impact”. I do agree that the film was made as part of the imprinting for the 2012 scenario and the Illuminati love to use symbolism.

The truth is that Elenin is less that 5 km long. Not a major object unless it hits the Earth at full force, which it will not. In fact, it will pass us outside of the lunar orbit. While this is considered a “close call”, it is not deadly. It will even be difficult to see with the naked eye. Any gravitational effects on our planet will be negligible.

However, Elenin originated in the Kuiper Belt. NASA has stated recently that there is a massive object in the Oorts Belt beyond the Kuiper Belt that is hurling comets and asteroids at us. That is a clue.

I feel that Elenin is a probe from the Kuiper Belt fleet that is sending a warning to the Illuminati and allowing the people of Earth to know that something is out there. I feel that when the comet approaches, there will be quite a light show and maybe messages will be received by a few on Earth. This will be a precursor perhaps to a real invasion, superseding the staged event.

We will be discussing this at our next OMG meeting as this is part of a larger picture that sets the stage for many changes in Illuminati plans and alters many predictions that have been made over the years. I will keep you posted as best I can as info arises

http://expansions.com/

[AlexanderLight]

@shiva777 : Nobody is going to invade us! Something we will learn very soon is that every life form corresponds to the vibration of the mother planet. We could never live on other planets. Our energetic bodies cannot accommodate the energy of other planets. We vibrate on the same frequency as Mother Earth.

Spiritual evolution means the ability to vibrate on higher frequencies. Mother Earth and us can only evolve together. We need to learn infinite Love in order to evolve and raise our vibrations.

The great majority of extraterrestrial beings cannot accommodate Earth's vibration either. They need special devices to create a protective shield around them, otherwise they will die in hours.

This is the main reason why the reptilian extraterrestrials keep on feeding us hatred, wars, corruption, misery, pain, illness, shortage, etc. They struggle to make us suffer and generate negativity, because this generates low vibrations. The reptilians vibrate on low frequencies and are not able to raise their frequencies, while humans can vibrate on very-very high frequencies.

When they altered our DNA, the reptilians downgraded our bodies from 12 DNA strands to only 2. This is how they managed to enslave us. But now, the we are evolving again. Already, the first humans managed to develop a third DNA strand. A conference of geneticists reached the conclusion that we are evolving into a superior specie and we will develop 12 DNA strands.

~ We are Love, Earth is Peace ~

[nearing]

@shiva777 : A conference of geneticists reached the conclusion that we are evolving into a superior specie and we will develop 12 DNA strands.



I would really like to see with my own eyes the proof that this happened. Do you have a link to the research?

[tkh123186]

@shiva777 : A conference of geneticists reached the conclusion that we are evolving into a superior specie and we will develop 12 DNA strands.



I would really like to see with my own eyes the proof that this happened. Do you have a link to the research?

He is probably referring to this article http://humansarefree.com/2011/04/amazing-scientists-our-dna-is-mutating.html from this post http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?18447-Amazing%21-Scientists-Our-DNA-is-Mutating-As-We-Speak%21-We-Are-Developing-12-Strands%21.

[truthseekerdan]

What is a brown dwarf

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/f7/Relative_star_sizes.svg/450px-Relative_star_sizes.svg.png

Brown dwarfs are very difficult to locate because they emit atomic particles/ions that make them super cold and so cold as to absorb light.

People cannot yet see the brown dwarf approaching our inner solar system using the NASA ELEnin Comet Psyop flight path, because Nibiru is still too cold and the massive gravity well bends light around the dwarf star to render Planet X completely invisible.

The dwarf will continue to approach our planet at 100,000 miles per hour and 2.4 million miles nearer with every passing day, which brings the massive gravity well that much closer to influence volcanic magma being raised to the surface with each revolution of the Earth.

Molten magma is rising to the surface and filling in the gaps between the tectonic plates to create the slipping required to generate more and more earthquake/volcano activity; which is the reason earthquakes and volcanoes are going off all over the planet; and particularly in the southern hemisphere.

That activity is moving north with the approach of the brown dwarf now influencing our planet from the northern hemisphere beginning March 3 - 4, 2011.

Short video here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KCl8K-bcD8s


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KCl8K-bcD8s


Much Love

[SEAM]

MELANCHOLIA:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x_xsm46s2Gg&feature=player_embedded#at=51

It has been said that 2011 is the year of the Alien Movies. In honor of the extraterrestrial trend, we’ve put together a trailer for 2011: The Year of the Alien.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tq1RVNKEV7E&feature=player_embedded

And of course, Anunnaki The Movie (which was canceled - For the Time Being)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O5WROlf-XYQ

[SEAM]

Can't leave out the younger crowd in all this B.Washing:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qzU9OrZlKb8&feature=related

[truthseekerdan]

Connecting the FINAL dot! PLANET X (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QMyFk0tLMrM)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QMyFk0tLMrM

Also a great interview posted by Helvetic: http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?1383-The-Continuing-Search-For-The-Truth&p=197185&viewfull=1#post197185

[dddanieljjjamesss]

It's hard to come to a conclusion based on information in youtube videos.
I give up. What will be will be, and I will be prepared for death or otherwise.

[AlexanderLight]

It's hard to come to a conclusion based on information in youtube videos.
I give up. What will be will be, and I will be prepared for death or otherwise.

What is death, brother? Just a change of the 'vehicle'. Changing your body is like changing your car...

Peace and Love <3

[OnyxKnight]

This is a theory not a fact. A BIG THEORY. NO FACTS only assumptions. If you can't see this then you have a big problem.

Actually it IS a fact. What would be the purpose of inventing gods, and claim, that these imaginary characters were their teachers who taught them astronomy, math, medicine, agriculture etc.

If you see logic in that, then it is you who has a problem, not me.

I repeat, if the "Gods" exist, so does their home (planet).


I do not agree with this statement. Our astrophysics is in no way the truth of anything and this again is an assumption. A theory about formation of brown dwarf stars, nothing more.

Oh dear ....

Well, experiments have been done in a lab too, accumulating gas under a specific level of pressure, to see how much of the same quantity, would be needed, before the gas heats up, or even reaches plasma state. This is - given you at least believe in executed experiments, or do you have a problem with that as well?

There are gas giants 9 to 10 times the size of Jupiter, who are still - gas giants. Tyche is a gas giant 4 times the size of Jupiter. In order for a brown dwarf to be born, it needs to reach a certain quantity of gas accumulation, which under pressure (of its size), would create heat, and thus create a brown dwarf.

Brown dwarfs can be as little as 10/11 Jupiter masses. Now why is that? The pressure diminishes the size of the object. Just like the coolest red dwarfs are a little smaller than the largest brown dwarfs - pressure makes the heated gas ignite, creating plasma and allowing for hydrogen-1 fusion activity to occur. The same pressure levels also diminish the size of the object.

You know, there are pretty easier ways to learn the basics of astronomy, on the internet, than being lectured on it on a forum, okay? Do yourself a favor, take a few online courses please.

I emphasize - the lowest mass brown dwarf needs to heave AT LEAST 13 Jupiter masses. Most brown dwarfs have at least a dozen more. And there is the rest who may reach 40 Jupiter masses.


This is not a fact, it is an assumption.

You can't be serious?

......

If you have a better calculation .... Better than the astronomers and astrophysicists, regarding the distance of Tyche and Sol B, I would like to see.

You know how you make it sound? If a very distant planet was drifting in an area of space between our sun and Proxima Centauri (assuming there is no Sol B), let's say, about a light year and a half from us, and thus belonging to neither star system, you would still call it an assumption? And just pick its actual place in space, and perhaps even invent an orbit to either star system, of your choosing.

You do know what an astronomical unit and a light year is, right?


This is what I have said. So we agree on this point

Actually we don't agree. I am referring to a very dim red dwarf star system, that has planets, neither element of which, is Nibiru.

You, are referring to a brown dwarf, with planets that swing in crazy orbits that defy logic, who comes here in precise cyclic periods of time - 3600 years (who are wrong, if you calculate yourself), and you connect this with Tyche.


THIS IS A MYTH. An assumption...heresay and NOT A FACT. "Unconfirmed fact." .LOLOLOL Funny.

*sigh* .....

Did you even bother doing the research? Check the websites? Check the asteroid research and analysis? The countless questions people ask on the net of what happened to the pictures of the actual object who were numerous prior to 2003, and after 2003, they disappear from the internet. Maybe you have a (more logical) explanation for that, one based on 'facts' of course?

If I wasn't confident in what I was saying I wouldn't be claiming its (an unconfirmed) fact, when there are Kuiper Belt missions that will be launched very soon. You can smack "myth" labels and "LOL" all you want, but if what I say its a pile of "assumptions" and myths, then why are you entertaining your ridiculous theory too? It surely isn't based on anything factual thus far.

Again, why would the existence of Nibiru or its destruction be judged so diametrically different as to label one as fact and one as myth, when there is no conclusive proof (so far) for neither.

You just cherry pick what to believe/support. Evident here:


Agreed


Agreed

[White Phoenix]

Hello Avalonians,

This is my first thread, so I apologise if this information has already been shared!

These are some interesting videos I came across that show a correlation between the alignment of the incoming dwarf-star, the Sun and Earth, and the recent increase in earthquake activity.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RnG8Pa0u-4U&feature=mfu_in_order&list=UL

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sMab3VbBOlw&feature=mfu_in_order&list=UL

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AH2UANYbpXA&feature=mfu_in_order&list=UL

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YwF97KwKTbg&feature=mfu_in_order&list=UL

[Lord Sidious]

Hello Avalonians,

This is my first thread, so I apologise if this information has already been shared!

These are some interesting videos I came across that show a correlation between the alignment of the incoming dwarf-star, the Sun and Earth, and the recent increase in earthquake activity.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RnG8Pa0u-4U


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sMab3VbBOlw


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AH2UANYbpXA


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YwF97KwKTbg

Avast there me hearties. :p

[ThePythonicCow]

Avast there me hearties. :p
Oh dear ... political correctness seems to have gotten to Lord Sid.

Now we're "hearties", not "nuggets".

The end is near. Prepare!

[Whiskey_Mystic]

Avast there me hearties. :p
Oh dear ... political correctness seems to have gotten to Lord Sid.

Now we're "hearties", not "nuggets".

The end is near. Prepare!

Say it isn't so! Quick, someone check the temperature in hell! Warn the FAA about flying pigs!

[TigaHawk]

One thing that i have found interesting is this...

The day's earth's magnetic field lost the south polarity, which has been 2 days so far (Hati and Japan earthquakes)

These are also day's that HAARP has been active.


I'm no scientist... but pumping billions of volts into the ionosphere.... has got to screw with earths magnetic field.


Nibiru cant be left out of the equasion either tho, because "something" is messing with the orbital bodies in our solar system as well.

[blufire]

I only watched the first video, but my squirrelly little brain picked up on a couple things I haven’t seen mentioned about Elenin

ELEnin Extinction Level Event Seen this correlation and possible acronym.

eleNIN Nibiru Seen this one too . . . but can’t quite make it fit

Comet was discovered in December 2010 by Leonid Elenin and it has been bantered about that this is a code or fake name . . . which made me look a little harder

Came up with Leonid Meteor Shower that happens every year in November and this year the apex of the shower is around the 17 of November

The video’s alignments include 11/5/11 in which we may be going through debris from Elenin and then we have the 11/23/11 as well.

If you add both these dates up Numerologically you get the number Nine . . . . eleNIN

Extention Level Event (ELEnin) the Ninth (eleNIN) of November during the Leonid meteor shower (Leonid Elenin . . . the “man” who discovered the comet(?) )Yep just my squirrelly little brain working on overtime . . . .

((((((((blufire ducks expertly as Lord Sid chucks nuggets of nuts at her head)))))))))) ;) :p

[enfoldedblue]

What about Extinction Level Event Nibiru Is Nigh



I like playing with letters and words ;)

[pyriel]

would kinda be interesting if a dark star pulled earth off it's normal orbit and earth started orbiting around the dark star....... anyways.. back on topic

[Lord Sidious]

Avast there me hearties. :p
Oh dear ... political correctness seems to have gotten to Lord Sid.

Now we're "hearties", not "nuggets".

The end is near. Prepare!

When I get peoples videos out, I have to post something, per the 10 character rule as you know.
Gotta keep you nuggets guessing. :p

[Calz]

((((((((blufire ducks expertly as Lord Sid chucks nuggets of nuts at her head)))))))))) ;) :p


Oooooh ... well played blufire!!!!

:pop2:

[Studeo]

Stories about the fictional planet Nibiru and predictions of doomsday in December 2012 have blossomed on the Internet. There are now (June 2009) more than 175 books listed on Amazon.com dealing with the 2012 doomsday. As this hoax spreads, many more disaster scenarios are being suggested. “Ask an Astrobiologist” has received nearly a thousand questions about Nibiru and 2012, with more than 200 answers posted. Many new questions are similar to those already answered. Following is a list of the most popular “Twenty Questions” organized in a logical succession and answered in some detail.

http://astrobiology.nasa.gov/ask-an-astrobiologist/intro/nibiru-and-doomsday-2012-questions-and-answers

[Amer]

We wade through so much stuff to do with Nibiru/disaster scenarios that at times I get overwhelmed and to be honest a little freaked out :scared:

Then I take a reality pill and go read some research with a solid foundation and wake up to see that there are a lot of prople out there who perhaps despite their good intentions -or not - just can't deliver on the proof.

As the astrobiologist says :

"You don’t need to take my word for it. Just use common sense. Have you seen Nibiru? In 2008 many websites said it would be visible to the naked eye in spring 2009. If a large planet or brown dwarf were headed for the inner solar system in 2012, it would already be tracked by hundreds of thousands of astronomers, professional and amateur, all over the world. Do you know any amateur astronomers who are watching it? Have you seen any photos or discussion of it in the big popular astronomy magazines like Sky & Telescope? Just think about it. No one could hide Nibiru if it existed"

[Fred259]

We wade through so much stuff to do with Nibiru/disaster scenarios that at times I get overwhelmed and to be honest a little freaked out :scared:

Then I take a reality pill and go read some research with a solid foundation and wake up to see that there are a lot of prople out there who perhaps despite their good intentions -or not - just can't deliver on the proof.

As the astrobiologist says :

"You don’t need to take my word for it. Just use common sense. Have you seen Nibiru? In 2008 many websites said it would be visible to the naked eye in spring 2009. If a large planet or brown dwarf were headed for the inner solar system in 2012, it would already be tracked by hundreds of thousands of astronomers, professional and amateur, all over the world. Do you know any amateur astronomers who are watching it? Have you seen any photos or discussion of it in the big popular astronomy magazines like Sky & Telescope? Just think about it. No one could hide Nibiru if it existed"

It’s all a new age hoax, Amer brought to you by the New World Order. It’s absolutely criminal, but then again they are criminals. Don’t worry about it and above all don’t spend any of your money on books or videos.

The video in Post#1 is the only one you need to watch and it’s free.

You don’t believe in the monster under the bed so why believe in this, it’s no different from the Y2K scam. (Year 2000 millennium bug)

Mods / Dennis, You were correctly highlighting the evils of the Globalist Elite / New World Order yesterday, I do think it’s equally important to moderate these grossly misleading cult like statements put out by these criminals. If we continue to allow this rubbish on the forum we are essentially becoming a notice board for them. Can this be considered please?

[Calz]

Interesting little vid distributed by Gilliland email.

No 2nd source. Worth 3 minutes of your time.

Grab some discernment and have a look for yourselves:



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iKn_2neBSyo&feature=related

*** adding ***

Another distributed from Gilliland along the same line ... so having a 2 for 1 special today:



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9B948pU-Spk&feature=uploademail

[Lord Sidious]

So they show more by hiding it than by leaving it visible?
Interesting.

[crosby]

thanks C_A., having a look right now on SKY-MAP.org. trying to see if there is anything visible right now from this site.
warmest, corson

it seems to be located within the orion constellation. but my resolution sucks. i can't get close enough to see any real detail. there is nothing blocked out though. i'm sure that the coordinates of nibiru have changed since this vid., became public knowledge. i will keep searching and let you know what i find.