How bout that Alex Jones?

[Grizzom]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J-PzvWJE_sE&feature=related

I just can't figure this guy out?

Its common knowledge he's controlled opposition. (COINTELpro)

Like he says: If you don't believe me, check it out on the internet and see for yourself.

Why does he make such good DVDs ?

How can TPTB benefit by allowing this clown, talk his crap?

Him and Al Gore both make me want to puke!


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IS ALEX JONES A ZIONIST SHILL?

THE SIMMERING CONTROVERSY OF ALEX ‘BULLHORN’ JONES being a Zionist shill and de facto Zionist agent and spin meister has now spilled over onto Jones’ own public Prison Planet Message Board (see below)…despite alleged message-censoring efforts by Jones, personally, and his staff.

According to a number of postings which are excerpted below, Jones allegiance to Zionism stems from two things: 1) His core Protestant Fundamentalist-Zionist belief system, and, 2) Widely circulated reports that his wife is a Jew which would make their two children Jewish under Talmudic law.

** FORBIDDEN INFORMATION THAT ALEX JONES DOES NOT WANT YOU TO KNOW **

“Alex Jones’ ‘w-i-f-e’ is Jewish. He has two children by her. His children are therefore by rabbinical law, considered fully Jewish. This is because in rabbinical law, children are considered fully Jewish if their mother is Jewish, regardless of the race or ethnicity of the father.

Alex’s w-i-f-e and children therefore qualify for Right of Return status under Israeli law. The Israeli Right of Return statute allows any Jew anywhere in the world to immigrate to Israel and receive instant automatic citizenship. Alex Jones’ ‘w-i-f-e’ and children are therefore de facto dual citizens of the state of Israel.

It is well-known that many years ago Alex Jones used to complain on his radio show about how difficult it was for a non-Jewish spouse of a Jewish person to immigrate to the state of Israel because of the excessive bureaucratic red tape and regulations involved.”


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JONES FEARS PUBLIC KNOWLEDGE OF HIS JEWISH WIFE


“Alex Jones does not wish for this information about his wife to become widely known and he is desperately trying to conceal it.

Jones has instructed his Webmaster, Paul Watson, to create a text filter that scans all comments posted on this website for the word ‘w-i-f-e,’ except without dashes or other characters between the letters.

If the word ‘w-i-f-e’ (without dashes) is found in either the body of the comment itself or in the poster’s name, then that comment is automatically placed on moderation.

If you don’t believe what I am saying, then please try it out for yourself. Simply post a comment with the word ‘w-i-f-e’ contained in it, except do not place dashes between the letters of the word. You will see that when you post your comment, it will automatically be placed on moderation status. You will see the following message next to the title of your post: ‘Your comment is awaiting moderation.”

From my own perspective (Brother Nathanael Kapner, publisher of Real Jew News), I know for a fact that Alex Jones deleted all comments that had links to articles on Real Jew News on his Prison Planet Forum. Jones even had a regular forum contributor, a man named Nicolae Ibasfalean, BANNED from ever posting on the Prison Planet Forum again, simply because he posted links to various Real Jew News articles.

JONES EXPOSED AS A ‘DISINFO’ AGENT FOR THE JEWS

ALLOWING JONES TO TAKE A HIDDEN CAMCORDER into the Zionist elite’s/Skull & Bone’s, Bohemian Grove, in the Redwoods forest in January of 2006, the Zionist Jewish press conferred upon Jones a celebrity status. Now making a name for himself due to the Zionist Jewish press’ collaboration, Jones was able to gain the undying (frightening) maniacal devotion of thousands of Americans.

Another commenter on Jones’ Prison Planet Message board, with penetrating insight, brought to light Jones’ role as a ‘disinfo’ agent for the Jews:

“I agree that while on the air, Alex Jones is a disinfo agent for the Jews and Israel. Obama, whom Jones criticizes, is an African American whose administration is infiltrated with Jews and Israel-Firsters. The communists, to whom Alex Jones and his guests refer, who influence and surround Obama, are also Jews. The banksters and the elite groups they talk about are dominated by the Zionists. There would not be the powerful Rockefeller dynasty had not the Jewish Israel-Firsters, the Rothschilds, financed it.

Israel did 9/11 - Mossad did 9/11. The low-life Larry Silverstein should be arrested and asked to take a lie detector test because of his involvement and benefit from the destruction of the twin towers. I am very disgusted with the decision of Alex Jones to revert to his former refusal to tell the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth as to the identity of the criminals who are destroying the USA.”

Read the rest of the story and more here: http://www.realzionistnews.com/?p=387


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QkM5Evk-Ux4

Alex Jones is the CIA Mockingbird that is leading the truth movement into anarchy through fear mongering and plain craziness souring the message the truth movement stands for

[Robstar]

I have to admit i was a listener of his show.
Until he started to spew his fear propaganda and just bizarre rantings that where filled with hate.
At first it was a small and dismissible bits of ranting. But over the past few years it has grown to an almost lunatic state.
His information was very good at first but then, I don't know if my intuition kicked in or he changed
but i felt as the information factor dropped to less than 1% and the rest was his fear and hate.
Now i look at him and think he is wrong on 99% of his info and methods.
I see him as a fear salesman and chaotic shockjock and not as a truth seeker.
That is just my 2 cents but if you like him go for it and judge yourself.:cool:

[Etherios]

Oh really??? I guess our feelings are totaly different then. Yes he is an .... you know but that doesnt change the fact that he gives alot of info. Most of what he says you can just go and find it afterwards from the official sites so at least he isnt disinfo agent.

I dont care if the msg is told by a clown i care what the msg is. There should be fear .. alot of fear if you dontt know whats going on. If you realize whats happening then there is no fear its just facts and info.

For example we see here that the Oil Spill WILL create a toxic soup in the Gulf and eventually (NOT MAYBE) these toxics WILL hit the mainland. OMG is this fear mongering? NO its facts its reality. You either accept it and run away before the ... hit the fan or you hide your head in the sand and then say that i am a fear monger.

Jones isnt the best person or the best spokesman but i get more info from him that lets say FOX news? He has announced and revealed info a few days at least before our (Greece) networks even mention about it.

BTW why is he controled? Cause of the fear? If you find a better way to wake up ppl than invoking their survival instict by fear plz tell us.

[Etherios]

He is all about the materialistic approach to the American dream. He doesnt care about the soul or the vibrations or anything else like that... but this is the same for 70-80% of the US ppl.

Why is this thread even started lol

[morguana]

is he about inducing fear or is he about inducing anger? anger is a gift (maclome x) it can be used as a raw energy to kick start and promote change. however saying this, i personally feel that alex jones has lost it since his end game, which was very interesting.....would have been better if he had not used that blasted megaphone tho. but as for other info of his, i feel is based more on his own paranoia and trying to boost his listener count than on 'fact', saying that however there does seem to be a kernal of truth to his rantings, but one has to peel off the over dramamatic slightly twisted manic outer layers to find it.

grizzom rather than just stating this as fact ''I know he's controlled opposition. (COINTELpro)'' please could you show us what has lead you to this conclusion? i and im sure others would be interested to see how you came to this understanding?
also '' How can TPTB benefit by allowing this clown, talk his crap?'' i believe you have answered your own question, see above re cointelpro.

blessings
m

[Etherios]

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As i said he might be an asshat but he passed/gathers alot of info from alot of different areas. So iif you can just ignore the sudden explosion of .... his ego or something the info he passed. The excellent ppl he interviews and the info they provide are awsome.

[Barron]

Alex does seem to spread some good info. However, you may like to read these articles for an interesting take:
http://www.alexjonesmachine.com/round2.htm

IS ALEX JONES LINKED TO ZIONIST-JEW BRONFMAN? - http://www.realzionistnews.com/?p=413
IS ALEX JONES A ZIONIST SHILL? - http://www.realzionistnews.com/?p=387
WHY IS THE ADL PROMOTING ALEX JONES? - http://www.realzionistnews.com/?p=465

Cheers

[Majorion]

Somebody says; well I would rather listen to Alex Jones than Fox News. There is an almost unanimous consensus among us at avalon that the ptb control the major media outlets, so I won't bother arguing that. Instead I propose that if powerful people are able to control the major media then isn't logical they will also be controlling (or offering) the 'alternatives', and how difficult would that be really?

I see Jones as yet another propagandist, sort of the "Limbaugh" of the truth movement, he makes himself out to be some valiant crusader leading the fight against tptb, when he has done no such thing and his only apparent motive is generating revenue from third party advertising. A radio host, film producer, conspiracy theorist, but nothing more - and frankly I am tired of people like him made out to be heroic for no apparent reason. He is more of a stain on the truth movement, with his incessant loudmouthed antics, his followers should be weary of their 'leader', sadly they aren't.

[Thodin303]

My introduction to the ptb agenda was though Fritz Springmire. It was a 6 hour video, kind of like an, Illuminati 101. Then a saw a few Alex Jones videos and started listening to his show around the beginning of 2006. I'm glad I was lead to him, I learned what I needed to and now I have moved on. I don't think it was him that changed all that much, though, he became more and more angry as the years progressed. His info is worth a look but internal discernment is the best tool to decipher it. I remember one time he was talking about Gloria Steinem and said she admitted to working for the CIA and taking CIA funds for Ms. Magazine. She did admit to working for the CIA, but she never said (on any record I could find) that she used CIA funds for the magazine. I had a similar experience with Gulf of Token info. When he says, "Do your own research," take him up on that...

I just try to remember that everyone is where they are at for a reason. They created that experience for them, not for me, not for you, but for themselves.

[grannyfranny100]

Alex Jones keeps on top of the political shenanigans that we aren't suppose to notice and that are rarely covered by the mainstream news. When the health care issue was going on, he pointed out all the strange things in the bill and made it quite clear that the bill was basically written by insurance company lobbyists. He even provided the web site for the bill so one could confirm that the bill isn't written to benefit the people. His bombastic style does wake up people and encourages grassroot efforts.

[DonnaA]

I see him as a fear salesman and chaotic shockjock and not as a truth seeker.
That is just my 2 cents but if you like him go for it and judge yourself.:cool:

I don't see him as a spiritual leader, if that is what you mean by a truth seeker, but he gives accurate and good information. I also don't see him as promoting fear... what he says doesn't scare me at all, but it does make me very angry and not at him, at the establishment.

I believe his "part" is to make you aware of what is going on, and if the info presented doesn't make you angry then I would ask you why? Why aren't you angry?

What is the fear of? Fear of the facts? If the facts are proven there should be no fear, just action or inaction... the problem comes no one believes and that is what the PTB want, no one to believe these things could be true. I have investigated a lot of what Alex reports on and it has all been true. Everything can be found on the internet (it is a great place for research).

I do not subscribe to him, but I have viewed almost all of his DVD's I do not see any disinfo on his part. Granted his presentation can be "shocking" and loud, but hey that is how some of these guys manage to get attention and if they don't have attention then the info does not get out to where it needs to be. :)

[Swami]

Nice subliminal at the beginning of the tube......

Johnny Cash - Personal Jesus (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jQcNiD0Z3MU)

Jesus.............;)

[jackovesk]

ALEX JONES IS THE REAL DEAL...

I have been listening for many years, when he says something I am not quite sure about I will research it myself and 99% of the time he is Spot on.

As for the critics all I'll say is this 'THE TRUTH IS NEVER WRONG'!

Alex often fortells of the NWO latest Agenda's, Police State & Govt. Ops and sure enough these Agenda's & Ops are happening down here within 1 to 6 months. Long Live Alex Jones...He and his informative guests will go down in the History books as True Patriots who helped Expose and Took Down the NWO!

[Faas]

Alex Jones, I can honestly say has woken a lot of people up, just because he is passionate about exposing the NWO with strong fervor does not make him one of them.

The people who say that, in my opinion, have very low discernment. If I knew and read everything that he read, it would be crystal clear to me, that the whole society is in deep @#%#. Of course he's gonna rant about this stuff, his life is on the line and that of his children and so many other people who speak out about the NWO. If your gonna do what you can to expose these evil corporate criminals then you have to go all out and show people you are dead serious. If he was calm and relaxed, first of all, nobody would listen, it would seem as if there is no sense of urgency, but his fervor and body language show the urgency of what he's talking about.

If he had been some New Age person, nobody would take him seriously, because some of those people are so airy fairy and sugary positive. Many people are just not gonna tolerate Sugary Spiritual, it's not gonna wake them up, some people need somebody to scare them straight. I credit AJ with waking me up, and now I am here on PC and I support defeating the NWO people as much as I can.

You can't expect everybody to find out about who the Illuminati are through David Icke, because they aren't going to buy something that sounds unbelievable, some of us will because we are openminded from the getgo, but others will through Alex Jones real talk, and then after a bit, then they will look up on David Icke and the Spiritual stuff like Kymatica and then they will understand how to truly defeat the NWO.

So don't give me that AJ co-intelpro, let these folks use integrity and discernment, one man can yell from the top of his lungs, the truth, because he cares, because he knows how dead serious this is, just because he doesn't act like a demure person with nothing to lose doesn't mean he is on the wrong side of the tracks.

Those who like to say that, they're discernment doesn't seem very high to me, you need to see it from his point of view. AJ is not about to jump on to the sugary spiritual movement, and I don't blame him, he is totally fine expose the corporate criminals by shouting it fromt he roof tops in a way that the sleeping sheeple need. They need to be jolted out of their comas.

[Robstar]

Very good valid points on all responses.
But you cannot fight evil in fear and anger. It clouds your judgment.
And if you believe that anger is a gift and a catalyst for change than you have never been in a fight.
You will go around being angry at everyone and everything and the enemy will defeat you. You will be predictable and full of fear to make a changing move.
It does not help to shout and rant if the people you are trying to wake up do not want to wake up.
" the true revolutionary is guided by a great feeling of love. It is impossible to think of a genuine revolutionary lacking this quality" Love for humanity , your nation(land), your people but LOVE none the less. Not anger or fear.

I think everyone should listen to him, at one point. really listen.:p

[Hiram]

Very good valid points on all responses.
But you cannot fight evil in fear and anger. It clouds your judgment.
And if you believe that anger is a gift and a catalyst for change than you have never been in a fight.
You will go around being angry at everyone and everything and the enemy will defeat you. You will be predictable and full of fear to make a changing move.
It does not help to shout and rant if the people you are trying to wake up do not want to wake up.
" the true revolutionary is guided by a great feeling of love. It is impossible to think of a genuine revolutionary lacking this quality" Love for humanity , your nation(land), your people but LOVE none the less. Not anger or fear.

I think everyone should listen to him, at one point. really listen.:p

I appreciate your point of view Robstar. However, I would point out that there are many different types of anger, some of which can be quite useful. If the anger felt drives one to do something useful, something which for whatever reason, apathy, fear, etc you have previously been loathe to do....sometimes anger is the catalyst which springs this paralyzing trap of fear.

On Alex Jones specifically, I have rarely heard anyone say so many times "Don't listen to me...Don't believe me....look it up for yourself." I cannot see how that is an approach of anyone who is seeking to brainwash you. You would not want to empower your audience into independent inquiry...on the contrary, you would seek to disempower them.

For those reasons, I think Alex Jones is probably the real deal. Angry and obnoxious at times....yes. But my senses do not tell me that he is a spook.

[Majorion]

Alex often fortells of the NWO latest Agenda's, Police State & Govt. Ops and sure enough these Agenda's & Ops are happening down here within 1 to 6 months.
Don't think he is "fortelling" anything here, anyone can clearly see that the world is not in an ideal state.


just because he is passionate about exposing the NWO with strong fervor does not make him one of them ...

... The people who say that, in my opinion, have very low discernment ...
How is it that questioning the motives of a person like him is low discernment? what would you propose is "high" discernment, following Alex Jones without question?


I have rarely heard anyone say so many times "Don't listen to me...Don't believe me....look it up for yourself." I cannot see how that is an approach of anyone who is seeking to brainwash you.
Well I sure can...

When he refers people to "research" for themselves, he knows full well that most of the people who even bother to look - will do a google search at most, all the conspiracy results pop up (naturally), not excluding his own websites, and obviously the supposed "researcher" will be lead to believe everything he says is true.

[Hiram]

"When he refers people to "research" for themselves, he knows full well that most of the people who even bother to look - will do a google search at most, all the conspiracy results pop up (naturally), not excluding his own websites, and obviously the supposed "researcher" will be lead to believe everything he says is true. "

I'm sorry Majorian, let me see if I can follow your logic here. You are postulating that Person "AJ" is encouraging the public to research for themselves....with the foreknowledge that the information that those people will go out and find independently will confirm what he wishes them to believe in the first place?

I know this is quite humorous to say here but...isn't that a bit paranoid?

Would you rather someone did the opposite, and stated emphatically "There is no need to research this, as it it common knowledge. Besides you trust me don't you? I'll just tell you what to think, don't worry about researching for yourself."

My guess is that you wouldn't like that either am I correct?

I think the fact that people on this very board cannot agree on most of the finer points of the information we regularly digest, goes to show asking people to independently verify information is a poor tactic for swaying people if that is your strategy. Especially when there are many other tried-and-true tactics for mind control.

If someone encourages critical thought, empowers you to think outside of the box, and tells you "Don't believe me...research for yourself"

I ask you....what more can you ask from a broadcast host? Besides them getting control of their anger of course!

[Etherios]

Well the 1st thing to change the world is to "Realize" there is a problem. Now for the ppl that have been sleeping for ages some fear that will create anger and fustration is needed. A big slap in the face even if its a big rough is needed to start the thinking.

Now if the look for your self is bad or guided well ... we all should START from somewhere and eventually ppl will see what is false and what is true. We didnt wake up one day and said oh yes here is the truth. We all had to search damn we continue to do so.

Last and ill stop talking here about Alex Jones. There isnt many info he passes that cant be found from mainstream media and the known sites. The problem is ppl dont realize what the news tell them. The important issues pass by between the brain washing...

Even here in Greece we have the same thing. Terrible lies and stealing is happening right infrond our eyes but is passed so skillfully that we dont realize it... ever.

For example ... about the Spill they said all are going according to plans and then they said about obamas plans. Last they said that the last attempt to stop the Spill is going as planed by BP. So the hole issue is as planned... but the truth is that the only thing that were going as planned were the last attempt.

Anyway time will tell.

[Majorion]

You are postulating that Person "AJ" is encouraging the public to research for themselves....with the foreknowledge that the information that those people will go out and find independently will confirm what he wishes them to believe in the first place?

Yes, exactly. The 'alternative' is that he would be telling people to research, with the foreknowledge they will research properly; foia requests, phone calls, travels, digging up hard evidence, talking to witnesses, writing down notes, etc. Now if you disagree with my perspective then this is the alternative you would be supporting, correct? I ask you, which is far more likely, that most people have such time on their hands, or not? will people actually do research in that way? does Jones really expect people to do research in such a manner?


... asking people to independently verify information is a poor tactic for swaying people if that is your strategy ...

How is encouraging people to verify information independently, a poor tactic? you are almost confirming that "I" am doing this here, whereas Alex Jones does "not".

[Etherios]

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I think you got this wrongly man. To the ppl that think that the way of life we have now is perfect, to the ppl that think that the way of life now is the result of the nature of humans, to the ppl that think the guy with a rag of his head and a laptop is going to kill them from a cave ... Just the action of web reseach and the mind blowing result that the world they know isnt what they thought is more than enough.

The ppl that think their hole life is to work and to buy and to pay taxes and that as long as they do that they are "living" and that they only worth living whole they can do that the simple fact that their goverment is stealing and lying to them is enough.

In the days of the official legal slavery the slaves were wishing everyday that they are fit for work so their masters wont kill them. How is it different now? we wish we are well to pay taxes to work to make money to survive.


p.s. i dont know many ppl that do the research you are talking about... not to say that there is no way you can do that kind of research to the secret maters ... they are secret right ? so no matter how much time you your self spend you wont get much.

Erm now i understand why you are so negative to so many things in this forum :-P love and peace

[K626]

It is a fact he never looks at the backstory with regard to Zionism. For instance he'll rant about Goldman Sachs or something, but won't look into the history of the bank and the history of the private banks that control the fed (for obvious reasons). For me the jury is still out on this fella....I also remmeber his constant attacks on Icke a few years back (that seems to have changed lately). :confused:

[Redtailhawk]

I just re-watched THE OBAMA DECEPTION yesterday, it has had over 6 million views in just a little over a year. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eAaQNACwaLw&feature=fvw

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eAaQNACwaLw&feature=fvw

[Hummingbird]

Without a balancing spiritual practice, I believe that anyone can be subject to microwave mind control techniques.. Alex is torn between the truth and his religious beliefs.. This creates turmoil internally and that is a opportunity to use mind control techniques.

I, like many of you said, alex's videos were one of the first things I watched, Good for waking people up to the 3rd dimensional stuff but thats were it stops.

I think the tptb are moving into another level of using the power of thought against the populace. They are telling us the truth about 911 the 777 bombing etc, pretty much showing how much control they have and how dark they are, which they hope will take people into a deep fear state. All the while not giving solutions metaphysically which is were the true core solutions lye.

[Grizzom]

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IS ALEX JONES A ZIONIST SHILL?

THE SIMMERING CONTROVERSY OF ALEX ‘BULLHORN’ JONES being a Zionist shill and de facto Zionist agent and spin meister has now spilled over onto Jones’ own public Prison Planet Message Board (see below)…despite alleged message-censoring efforts by Jones, personally, and his staff.

According to a number of postings which are excerpted below, Jones allegiance to Zionism stems from two things: 1) His core Protestant Fundamentalist-Zionist belief system, and, 2) Widely circulated reports that his wife is a Jew which would make their two children Jewish under Talmudic law.

** FORBIDDEN INFORMATION THAT ALEX JONES DOES NOT WANT YOU TO KNOW **

“Alex Jones’ ‘w-i-f-e’ is Jewish. He has two children by her. His children are therefore by rabbinical law, considered fully Jewish. This is because in rabbinical law, children are considered fully Jewish if their mother is Jewish, regardless of the race or ethnicity of the father.

Alex’s w-i-f-e and children therefore qualify for Right of Return status under Israeli law. The Israeli Right of Return statute allows any Jew anywhere in the world to immigrate to Israel and receive instant automatic citizenship. Alex Jones’ ‘w-i-f-e’ and children are therefore de facto dual citizens of the state of Israel.

It is well-known that many years ago Alex Jones used to complain on his radio show about how difficult it was for a non-Jewish spouse of a Jewish person to immigrate to the state of Israel because of the excessive bureaucratic red tape and regulations involved.”


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JONES FEARS PUBLIC KNOWLEDGE OF HIS JEWISH WIFE


“Alex Jones does not wish for this information about his wife to become widely known and he is desperately trying to conceal it.

Jones has instructed his Webmaster, Paul Watson, to create a text filter that scans all comments posted on this website for the word ‘w-i-f-e,’ except without dashes or other characters between the letters.

If the word ‘w-i-f-e’ (without dashes) is found in either the body of the comment itself or in the poster’s name, then that comment is automatically placed on moderation.

If you don’t believe what I am saying, then please try it out for yourself. Simply post a comment with the word ‘w-i-f-e’ contained in it, except do not place dashes between the letters of the word. You will see that when you post your comment, it will automatically be placed on moderation status. You will see the following message next to the title of your post: ‘Your comment is awaiting moderation.”

From my own perspective (Brother Nathanael Kapner, publisher of Real Jew News), I know for a fact that Alex Jones deleted all comments that had links to articles on Real Jew News on his Prison Planet Forum. Jones even had a regular forum contributor, a man named Nicolae Ibasfalean, BANNED from ever posting on the Prison Planet Forum again, simply because he posted links to various Real Jew News articles.

JONES EXPOSED AS A ‘DISINFO’ AGENT FOR THE JEWS

ALLOWING JONES TO TAKE A HIDDEN CAMCORDER into the Zionist elite’s/Skull & Bone’s, Bohemian Grove, in the Redwoods forest in January of 2006, the Zionist Jewish press conferred upon Jones a celebrity status. Now making a name for himself due to the Zionist Jewish press’ collaboration, Jones was able to gain the undying (frightening) maniacal devotion of thousands of Americans.

Another commenter on Jones’ Prison Planet Message board, with penetrating insight, brought to light Jones’ role as a ‘disinfo’ agent for the Jews:

“I agree that while on the air, Alex Jones is a disinfo agent for the Jews and Israel. Obama, whom Jones criticizes, is an African American whose administration is infiltrated with Jews and Israel-Firsters. The communists, to whom Alex Jones and his guests refer, who influence and surround Obama, are also Jews. The banksters and the elite groups they talk about are dominated by the Zionists. There would not be the powerful Rockefeller dynasty had not the Jewish Israel-Firsters, the Rothschilds, financed it.

Israel did 9/11 - Mossad did 9/11. The low-life Larry Silverstein should be arrested and asked to take a lie detector test because of his involvement and benefit from the destruction of the twin towers. I am very disgusted with the decision of Alex Jones to revert to his former refusal to tell the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth as to the identity of the criminals who are destroying the USA.”

Read the rest of the story and more here: http://www.realzionistnews.com/?p=387

[Hiram]

Yes, exactly. The 'alternative' is that he would be telling people to research, with the foreknowledge they will research properly; foia requests, phone calls, travels, digging up hard evidence, talking to witnesses, writing down notes, etc. Now if you disagree with my perspective then this is the alternative you would be supporting, correct? I ask you, which is far more likely, that most people have such time on their hands, or not? will people actually do research in that way? does Jones really expect people to do research in such a manner?



How is encouraging people to verify information independently, a poor tactic? you are almost confirming that "I" am doing this here, whereas Alex Jones does "not".



I appreciate your perspective Majorian, the scenario you describe however seems like projecting to me.

The responsibility of an individual is to take information that is presented to them from any source, radio show or no, and filter it against what you know, or think that you know. If the information falls outside of your regular purview, then you have the option to research it further.

The level of research you are describing above, may be a standard of examination many will find difficult to match. True. But I think anyone on this board would agree that there is plenty of valuable information available to anyone who performs the most cursory investigation on the web, without resorting to freedom of information requests, and phone-calls.

Correct me if I am not getting this, but the critique you are espousing essentially says that it is not enough for a purveyor of information to ask people to "research for themselves...". Now the purveyor of information must now instruct people on how to research as well?

If I were espousing that viewpoint I would be concerned that I was setting the bar quite high. I mean this discussion is only academic, but I find alot of the information AJ puts out very useful...then again I stopped really considering "the man" and began focusing on the information a long time ago.

Many of us spend an inordinate amount of time fixated on the messenger, rather than the message.

[Etherios]

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IS ALEX JONES A ZIONIST SHILL?

THE SIMMERING CONTROVERSY OF ALEX ‘BULLHORN’ JONES being a Zionist shill and de facto Zionist agent and spin meister has now spilled over onto Jones’ own public Prison Planet Message Board (see below)…despite alleged message-censoring efforts by Jones, personally, and his staff.

According to a number of postings which are excerpted below, Jones allegiance to Zionism stems from two things: 1) His core Protestant Fundamentalist-Zionist belief system, and, 2) Widely circulated reports that his wife is a Jew which would make their two children Jewish under Talmudic law.

** FORBIDDEN INFORMATION THAT ALEX JONES DOES NOT WANT YOU TO KNOW **

“Alex Jones’ ‘w-i-f-e’ is Jewish. He has two children by her. His children are therefore by rabbinical law, considered fully Jewish. This is because in rabbinical law, children are considered fully Jewish if their mother is Jewish, regardless of the race or ethnicity of the father.

Alex’s w-i-f-e and children therefore qualify for Right of Return status under Israeli law. The Israeli Right of Return statute allows any Jew anywhere in the world to immigrate to Israel and receive instant automatic citizenship. Alex Jones’ ‘w-i-f-e’ and children are therefore de facto dual citizens of the state of Israel.

It is well-known that many years ago Alex Jones used to complain on his radio show about how difficult it was for a non-Jewish spouse of a Jewish person to immigrate to the state of Israel because of the excessive bureaucratic red tape and regulations involved.”


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JONES FEARS PUBLIC KNOWLEDGE OF HIS JEWISH WIFE


“Alex Jones does not wish for this information about his wife to become widely known and he is desperately trying to conceal it.

Jones has instructed his Webmaster, Paul Watson, to create a text filter that scans all comments posted on this website for the word ‘w-i-f-e,’ except without dashes or other characters between the letters.

If the word ‘w-i-f-e’ (without dashes) is found in either the body of the comment itself or in the poster’s name, then that comment is automatically placed on moderation.

If you don’t believe what I am saying, then please try it out for yourself. Simply post a comment with the word ‘w-i-f-e’ contained in it, except do not place dashes between the letters of the word. You will see that when you post your comment, it will automatically be placed on moderation status. You will see the following message next to the title of your post: ‘Your comment is awaiting moderation.”

From my own perspective (Brother Nathanael Kapner, publisher of Real Jew News), I know for a fact that Alex Jones deleted all comments that had links to articles on Real Jew News on his Prison Planet Forum. Jones even had a regular forum contributor, a man named Nicolae Ibasfalean, BANNED from ever posting on the Prison Planet Forum again, simply because he posted links to various Real Jew News articles.

JONES EXPOSED AS A ‘DISINFO’ AGENT FOR THE JEWS

ALLOWING JONES TO TAKE A HIDDEN CAMCORDER into the Zionist elite’s/Skull & Bone’s, Bohemian Grove, in the Redwoods forest in January of 2006, the Zionist Jewish press conferred upon Jones a celebrity status. Now making a name for himself due to the Zionist Jewish press’ collaboration, Jones was able to gain the undying (frightening) maniacal devotion of thousands of Americans.

Another commenter on Jones’ Prison Planet Message board, with penetrating insight, brought to light Jones’ role as a ‘disinfo’ agent for the Jews:

“I agree that while on the air, Alex Jones is a disinfo agent for the Jews and Israel. Obama, whom Jones criticizes, is an African American whose administration is infiltrated with Jews and Israel-Firsters. The communists, to whom Alex Jones and his guests refer, who influence and surround Obama, are also Jews. The banksters and the elite groups they talk about are dominated by the Zionists. There would not be the powerful Rockefeller dynasty had not the Jewish Israel-Firsters, the Rothschilds, financed it.

Israel did 9/11 - Mossad did 9/11. The low-life Larry Silverstein should be arrested and asked to take a lie detector test because of his involvement and benefit from the destruction of the twin towers. I am very disgusted with the decision of Alex Jones to revert to his former refusal to tell the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth as to the identity of the criminals who are destroying the USA.”

Read the rest of the story and more here: http://www.realzionistnews.com/?p=387

SO because his wife is jewish he is a disinfo agent? simple as that? So if rothchild comes and has a mental breakdown and start talking about everything and passes out all the info he has we will just ignore him from whom he is?

Man this is sick ... i dont care if his wife is alien or a dinosaur WHO CARES ... what he talks about is true and you can actually look them up.

Now about jews and zionists.. NOT ALL THE JEWS ARE EVIL LITTLE MAN... jews just believe in that religion. So i expect you to provide us with some proof about your accusasions right? or wife=Jew=Guildy?

9/11 was a coop with many agencies. If you really think the US agencies didnt plan/help/execute this then sorry for you

[Majorion]

The level of research you are describing above, may be a standard of examination many will find difficult to match. True.
Hiram you clearly are very intelligent and thank you for confirming my point.

Though it was about the expectations of said purveyor, I never suggested he tells people to research properly now that is your suggestion, my critique was about expectations, something you earlier disagreed with but now you apparently agree, albeit with extreme subtlety.

[Hiram]

Hiram you clearly are very intelligent and thank you for confirming my point.

Though it was about the expectations of said purveyor, I never suggested he tells people to research properly now that is your suggestion, my critique was about expectations, something you earlier disagreed with but now you apparently agree, albeit with extreme subtlety.

Well, I trust your not measuring my intelligence based on whether I agree with you or not;-) heh. heh. I jest of course.

I'm happy that some portion of my psyche apparently finds resonance with what you write!

(I want to add that I always enjoy your posts and this place would be at a considerable loss without you!)

[noxon medem]

Alex Jones might be both loud, singleminded, and working within too narrow a field. I think he has chosen that role and
specter of subjects, and a frame were he can express clearly without overreaching, and from listening over some time,
think he does a good job of what he does, trying to educate and wake up people, primary americans, on a basic level.
That his wife is jewish should have no bearing on your judgement of his message and info. It is irrelevant. (!)
That he filters out comments concerning his wife for moderation is understandable, since he put himself in the line of fire,
and don´t want his wife to be slandered in the process, by people like you, Grizzom, with their own separate agenda.
You cannot blame the jews as a group for the criminal acts of the Israeli or zionist leaders, who seems to be cynically fooling
the common jew as much as they trick the rest of the world. In fact, in light of recent events, it is more important than ever
to keep the head clear and aware of any kind of simplified hatred against jews, or any other group. The Israely regime will
do anything to throw focus off their resent ambushing of the peaceconvoy in the Gaza-area, and their other warcrimes,
and will exploit a general hate of jews, for everything its worth to them. They should not be given the chance to hide behind
such diversion-tactics again, but be forced to face their own brutal actions of killing and creating suffering in the world.
You are of course free to attack both Alex Jones and the jews blindly, but in my view that just makes you a "useful idiot",
caught in the manipulating elites web of deceptions and diversions, making distractions within a group that should maintain
a general common focus to keep and develope its force. In Peace and Unity we can live with differences.

[jackovesk]

Originally posted by Grizzom...

** FORBIDDEN INFORMATION THAT ALEX JONES DOES NOT WANT YOU TO KNOW **

Quote: “Alex Jones’ ‘w-i-f-e’ is Jewish. He has two children by her. His children are therefore by rabbinical law, considered fully Jewish. This is because in rabbinical law, children are considered fully Jewish if their mother is Jewish, regardless of the race or ethnicity of the father".

Reply:

WHO CARES if his wife is Jewish, what has that got to do with anything? Just 2 days ago Alex Jones was criticizing Israel for attacking the Flotilla Ship in International waters.

My take on why Alex doesn't constantly attack the Jews is because his beef isn't with the Jewish people it is with the Neo Con Zionists who have taken control over the Govt.

Plus the easiest way to get a Bullet in the back of your head is to constantly speak out publically in a anti-semitic way which always boxes you into a corner that is hard to get out of.

Alex Jones constantly speaks out against the Jewish Cabal that run the world i.e. Rahm Emmanel, Larry Sommers, Gietner, Ben Bernanke, Zebrinski, Wolfawitz, Henry Kissinger, etc, etc, etc...

So what has this got anything to do about his wife being Jewish???

[jackovesk]

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IS ALEX JONES A ZIONIST SHILL?

THE SIMMERING CONTROVERSY OF ALEX ‘BULLHORN’ JONES being a Zionist shill and de facto Zionist agent and spin meister has now spilled over onto Jones’ own public Prison Planet Message Board (see below)…despite alleged message-censoring efforts by Jones, personally, and his staff.

According to a number of postings which are excerpted below, Jones allegiance to Zionism stems from two things: 1) His core Protestant Fundamentalist-Zionist belief system, and, 2) Widely circulated reports that his wife is a Jew which would make their two children Jewish under Talmudic law.

** FORBIDDEN INFORMATION THAT ALEX JONES DOES NOT WANT YOU TO KNOW **

“Alex Jones’ ‘w-i-f-e’ is Jewish. He has two children by her. His children are therefore by rabbinical law, considered fully Jewish. This is because in rabbinical law, children are considered fully Jewish if their mother is Jewish, regardless of the race or ethnicity of the father.

Alex’s w-i-f-e and children therefore qualify for Right of Return status under Israeli law. The Israeli Right of Return statute allows any Jew anywhere in the world to immigrate to Israel and receive instant automatic citizenship. Alex Jones’ ‘w-i-f-e’ and children are therefore de facto dual citizens of the state of Israel.

It is well-known that many years ago Alex Jones used to complain on his radio show about how difficult it was for a non-Jewish spouse of a Jewish person to immigrate to the state of Israel because of the excessive bureaucratic red tape and regulations involved.”


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JONES FEARS PUBLIC KNOWLEDGE OF HIS JEWISH WIFE


“Alex Jones does not wish for this information about his wife to become widely known and he is desperately trying to conceal it.

Jones has instructed his Webmaster, Paul Watson, to create a text filter that scans all comments posted on this website for the word ‘w-i-f-e,’ except without dashes or other characters between the letters.

If the word ‘w-i-f-e’ (without dashes) is found in either the body of the comment itself or in the poster’s name, then that comment is automatically placed on moderation.

If you don’t believe what I am saying, then please try it out for yourself. Simply post a comment with the word ‘w-i-f-e’ contained in it, except do not place dashes between the letters of the word. You will see that when you post your comment, it will automatically be placed on moderation status. You will see the following message next to the title of your post: ‘Your comment is awaiting moderation.”

From my own perspective (Brother Nathanael Kapner, publisher of Real Jew News), I know for a fact that Alex Jones deleted all comments that had links to articles on Real Jew News on his Prison Planet Forum. Jones even had a regular forum contributor, a man named Nicolae Ibasfalean, BANNED from ever posting on the Prison Planet Forum again, simply because he posted links to various Real Jew News articles.

JONES EXPOSED AS A ‘DISINFO’ AGENT FOR THE JEWS

ALLOWING JONES TO TAKE A HIDDEN CAMCORDER into the Zionist elite’s/Skull & Bone’s, Bohemian Grove, in the Redwoods forest in January of 2006, the Zionist Jewish press conferred upon Jones a celebrity status. Now making a name for himself due to the Zionist Jewish press’ collaboration, Jones was able to gain the undying (frightening) maniacal devotion of thousands of Americans.

Another commenter on Jones’ Prison Planet Message board, with penetrating insight, brought to light Jones’ role as a ‘disinfo’ agent for the Jews:

“I agree that while on the air, Alex Jones is a disinfo agent for the Jews and Israel. Obama, whom Jones criticizes, is an African American whose administration is infiltrated with Jews and Israel-Firsters. The communists, to whom Alex Jones and his guests refer, who influence and surround Obama, are also Jews. The banksters and the elite groups they talk about are dominated by the Zionists. There would not be the powerful Rockefeller dynasty had not the Jewish Israel-Firsters, the Rothschilds, financed it.

Israel did 9/11 - Mossad did 9/11. The low-life Larry Silverstein should be arrested and asked to take a lie detector test because of his involvement and benefit from the destruction of the twin towers. I am very disgusted with the decision of Alex Jones to revert to his former refusal to tell the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth as to the identity of the criminals who are destroying the USA.”

Read the rest of the story and more here: http://www.realzionistnews.com/?p=387


WHO CARES if his wife is Jewish, what has that got to do with anything? Just 2 days ago Alex Jones was criticizing Israel for attacking the Flotilla Ship in International waters.

My take on why Alex doesn't constantly attack the Jews is because his beef isn't with the Jewish people it is with the Neo Con Zionists who have taken control over the Govt.

Plus the easiest way to get a Bullet in the back of your head is to constantly speak out publically in a anti-semitic way which always boxes you into a corner that is hard to get out of.

Alex Jones constantly speaks out against the Jewish Cabal that run the world i.e. Rahm Emmanel, Larry Sommers, Gietner, Ben Bernanke, Zebrinski, Wolfawitz, Henry Kissinger, etc, etc, etc...

So what has this got anything to do about his wife being Jewish???

[Humble Janitor]

I don't understand the rampant anti-semitism regarding the wife of Alex Jones.

It just reeks of pure hatred and has nothing to do with Alex himself. I disagree with Alex but I will not stand with ignorant people that attack his wife because they have nothing better to do.

[noxon medem]

may/be relevant or/and related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bO0-u900OG4&feature=related
(george carlin on conspiracies)

The fine line between an innocent boardmeeting and
a conspiracy, is the secrecy, the lack of transparancy ..

[morguana]

SO because his wife is jewish he is a disinfo agent? simple as that? So if rothchild comes and has a mental breakdown and start talking about everything and passes out all the info he has we will just ignore him from whom he is?

Man this is sick ... i dont care if his wife is alien or a dinosaur WHO CARES ... what he talks about is true and you can actually look them up.

Now about jews and zionists.. NOT ALL THE JEWS ARE EVIL LITTLE MAN... jews just believe in that religion. So i expect you to provide us with some proof about your accusasions right? or wife=Jew=Guildy?

9/11 was a coop with many agencies. If you really think the US agencies didnt plan/help/execute this then sorry for you

Etherios, am with you on this one, wow just because hes married to a jewess hes a zionest? my word what a huge assumption you have made grizzom *shakes head* this kind of attitude does nothing to help with disserning the truth.
a persons creed, colour and name does not have any bearing on their role in the world.
i dont think you have answered my question on how you got to the conclusion that alex jones is a cointelpro agent, am awaiting your findings with anticipation
much love
m

[anikohu]

I don't post to much, but i need to say something here. In the mid 90's he was ONE OF THE FIRST REAL NEWS!! what you can find on the internet,and i am very greatfull for that . I found huge information true his website, (in the 90's)David Icke- Jordan Maxwell- Rense- and so on,,,, Those information are a major jumping in anybodies awakening. I don't listen to him anymore because i can stand the" histeria" and a screeming-yelling and how he CAN NOT LISTEN to his callers, but i think his political information and view is right on.
The wife is jewis SO WHAT??? ,or any other above listed.I would not spend my time to find out what he's NOT.
Suggestion! Just take as much info you need and go sourch for more and more ,,,,,,,,so you can grow and help others!!!
A.

[Majorion]

wow just because hes married to a jewess hes a zionest?
Check this webpage: http://www.opposingdigits.com/alex/

The authors there are not bordering on antisemitism like other websites, yet they present a compelling case against Jones and his ties to Zionism.

[Swami]

I think its pretty sick to keep pulling Jones wife and children into this...

Tells more about the peoples doing this than about AJ himself...

Better take a look in the mirror!
This pisses me off but thats not allowed in here, ...maybe better...

[Fredkc]

Anikohu;
Well said.
The problem with going back to step on someone else's step up, is the fact you have to step down yourself.

Rarely productive fofr either party. I do this occasionally myself, I admit.
Some people need to have things yelled at them, so they'll stop and look around.
I'm glad I'm done with Jones, and for the same reasons you pointed out.

Much useful info can be had thru him, and a decade ago, he got me mad enough to look at our political scene differently too.

Enjoy, if he's your cup of tea.

Fred

[norman]

Alex Jones has declared todays show a RED ALERT!.... The most important since the 9/11 event.

He now states point blank that it's 100% certain that America is being taken down immediately ( read, over the next 12 months ). UNLESS!... "we" act decisively and stand up enmass to say, no, no, no........ to the point that they simply cannot continue in the full glare of a knowing public.


I think he's right.... what can we do?

[Teakai]

Personally, I really like Alex Jones. I find him passionate and informative and he really seems to care for our future freedom and, of course, that of his children.

If he gets more emotional than some people are comfortable with, maybe it's because he realises just how bad it's going to get if people don't start 'getting it'.
Really, it must be so frustrating being in his position, knowing what he does and telling it everyday, and then having people bag him out for trying to warn people about what they have to lose if they don't get it together and wake up to the truth instead of deriding him as some sort of lunatic.

Is it really fear-mongering if he's telling it like it is? He has the news clips to back up what he says - so he's not making it up. His guests are knowing and informative. I think more people need to listen to Alex Jones. He's a great wake-up call.

As for his wife being Jewish - I fail to see how that is relevant to anything.

[Bill Ryan]

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I didn't even know this thread existed until just now. I read the original post..... Grizzom, this is not okay. Shrieking in large bold font that "it's common knowledge that AJ is COINTELPRO" is not 'research'... or responsible.

Laura Knight-Jadzyck says that about me, as well. So I know what it feels like to be victimized in public by someone who has never met me. It usually reflects back on the person making the smear.

Kerry and I have both been accused by many people of being on some payroll - because how else could we do what we're doing (etc). After a while one gets tired of that kind of idiocy... please don't promulgate this here.

There ARE some members of the alternative media who are controlled, and I have an idea who some of them are. But I refrain from saying anything in public unless I'M ABSOLUTELY TOTALLY SURE.

To do anything else is irresponsible - you're playing with a person's reputation here, kicking it around like a football. Don't do that unless you're REALLY CERTAIN - and even so, ask yourself WHY you wish to do it.

[3optic]

When he refers people to "research" for themselves, he knows full well that most of the people who even bother to look - will do a google search at most, all the conspiracy results pop up (naturally), not excluding his own websites, and obviously the supposed "researcher" will be lead to believe everything he says is true.

Majorian, I've been listening to Jones for some time and a lot recently. He encourages people to look at mainstream media sources for corroboration. Much of what he references are stories form The Washington Post, London Times, New York Times etc. My point is many papers will print fragments of interesting information.

I like Infowars and Prison Planet because they highlight anomalies that fall into this theme of Globalism. No mainstream media will cover this story because it is considered a conspiracy theory.

[IamBasili]

i think alex is a good tool and i find him pretty funny when he gets into his war face rage voice. like someone else said his info is really good just don't buy into his imagine and style and hes a good tool.
i dont get what his wife has to do with it...that's tabloid stuff.

[Majorion]

Majorian, I've been listening to Jones for some time and a lot recently. He encourages people to look at mainstream media sources for corroboration. Much of what he references are stories form The Washington Post, London Times, New York Times etc. My point is many papers will print fragments of interesting information.

I like Infowars and Prison Planet because they highlight anomalies that fall into this theme of Globalism. No mainstream media will cover this story because it is considered a conspiracy theory.

3optic it is evident - to me at least - you are one who can take the good you find and disregard the negatives, however not everyone is as discerning in the alternative camp. The predominant feeling and effect generated by the whole AJ machine is one of fear and paranoia, despite whatever the information is based upon or whether even accurate. Certainly enough sensationalism, exaggeration and spin discredit the topics willingly or unwillingly and stereotypes are typically enforced. The man at the helm is probably not cointelpro and needn't be whilst also having an agenda, and saying *agenda* may not necessitate malevolent intent here but highlighting the direction we are evidently headed with this endeavor. My hope is more people evaluate that direction before taking proactive efforts in spreading this brand of information and the associated themes.

Having repeated the same points time & again over the years has been frustrating. Nevertheless I do apologize for my disagreeable nature, as it can be equally frustrating for others at times. Anyway I have said enough on the topic.

All the best,

[PathWalker]

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I didn't even know this thread existed until just now. I read the original post..... Grizzom, this is not okay. Shrieking in large bold font that "it's common knowledge that AJ is COINTELPRO" is not 'research'... or responsible.

Laura Knight-Jadzyck says that about me, as well. So I know what it feels like to be victimized in public by someone who has never met me. It usually reflects back on the person making the smear.

Kerry and I have both been accused by many people of being on some payroll - because how else could we do what we're doing (etc). After a while one gets tired of that kind of idiocy... please don't promulgate this here.

There ARE some members of the alternative media who are controlled, and I have an idea who some of them are. But I refrain from saying anything in public unless I'M ABSOLUTELY TOTALLY SURE.

To do anything else is irresponsible - you're playing with a person's reputation here, kicking it around like a football. Don't do that unless you're REALLY CERTAIN - and even so, ask yourself WHY you wish to do it.

Absolutely, I would ad also the spiritual law of reflective Karma.
AJ is a legitimate source of information, regardless who is in control over him (a question by itself).
Every each source of information is biased (including myself), that is part of being a legitimate source.
Every one of us is picking (with awareness or without) the sources. Negative, positive, fear, hope, war, peace, all are colors of biased information. Just be aware.

Enjoy the game and take part.
Joy and happiness
PathWalker

[BrianEn]

If I had a message board and someone was attacking my wife, I'd certainly have those posters moderated too.

[Etherios]

you guys ... the real problem is that some of us are actually weighting how truth or good an info is by the person that is saying it. Thats just WRONG.

He might be a zionist a gay a pedo a ... i dont care. If what he says is true... then WTH will i stay and say no i wont listen to this truth he is zionist.

Now if you think that the info he is passing inst true because he is a zionist then you havent listen to him. He doesnt say i think this i think that. he says there they say this there that etc .. we can go and check what he claims. Now if you think that everyone is helping him to make his news a truth then i am sorry for you.

I prefer "truth" (that i can investigate) from a devil ... than "truth" from an angel that i have to take for granted. Then again thats just me.

[NancyV]

you guys ... the real problem is that some of us are actually weighting how truth or good an info is by the person that is saying it. Thats just WRONG.

He might be a zionist a gay a pedo a ... i dont care. If what he says is true... then WTH will i stay and say no i wont listen to this truth he is zionist.

Now if you think that the info he is passing inst true because he is a zionist then you havent listen to him. He doesnt say i think this i think that. he says there they say this there that etc .. we can go and check what he claims. Now if you think that everyone is helping him to make his news a truth then i am sorry for you.

I prefer "truth" (that i can investigate) from a devil ... than "truth" from an angel that i have to take for granted. Then again thats just me.

Very good insights and I love your preference for "truth from a devil". LOL However I think we have to be doubly cautious about accepting anything as truth from an "angel" or one who might portray himself to be more spiritually advanced than we are. I never accept anything as absolute "truth" from even seemingly very highly evolved beings such as angels, or Jesus, Buddha, etc., nor would I feel lesser than any of them.

I enjoy Alex Jones even though I don't agree with some things he says. I see him as doing a great service and it is HIS mission, not mine, so I will not judge why he does it. Even if he is working for or controlled by someone else, which I doubt, I don't really care. I enjoy him for who he is and I certainly have enough discernment to separate out what I like from what I don't like.

Nancy :)

[bluesword Angel]

I really like Alex Jones. I find him passionate & informative and he really seems to care, for our American way of life,freedom, as he stands with his passion flowing,on the US Constitution,
l think we all should look deep down and asked,what is our passion?

[bluesword Angel]

I really like Alex Jones. I find him passionate & informative and he really seems to care for our American way of life,freedom, and the world as a whole,as he stands with his passion flowing,on the US Constitution,
I think we all should look deep within and asked,what is our passion?
and Go from there,

[3optic]

3optic it is evident - to me at least - you are one who can take the good you find and disregard the negatives, however not everyone is as discerning in the alternative camp. The predominant feeling and effect generated by the whole AJ machine is one of fear and paranoia, despite whatever the information is based upon or whether even accurate. Certainly enough sensationalism, exaggeration and spin discredit the topics willingly or unwillingly and stereotypes are typically enforced. The man at the helm is probably not cointelpro and needn't be whilst also having an agenda, and saying *agenda* may not necessitate malevolent intent here but highlighting the direction we are evidently headed with this endeavor. My hope is more people evaluate that direction before taking proactive efforts in spreading this brand of information and the associated themes.

Having repeated the same points time & again over the years has been frustrating. Nevertheless I do apologize for my disagreeable nature, as it can be equally frustrating for others at times. Anyway I have said enough on the topic.

All the best,

This point is well taken, Majorian. Sorry if I hadn't realized how much you had already posted on this. I may have even absorbed some of your points into my own POV. I shied away from AJ because I just couldn't stomach his calamitous style. Conversely there is no denying the value of some of his information. I swing between these two viewpoints and recently made another go at this material and came to a more measured conclusion. Yes it's clearly a bad idea to frame this information in fear, zeal, rage etc. and it is also a thorough look at the subject matter. Like most things in this world it is both/ and..

Transpersonal author Ken Wilbur might say, "transcend and include."

[yiolas]

i think alex is a good tool and i find him pretty funny when he gets into his war face rage voice. like someone else said his info is really good just don't buy into his imagine and style and hes a good tool.
i dont get what his wife has to do with it...that's tabloid stuff.

Dito, Dito, Dito.... IamBasili and welcome to Project Avalon !


Posted By Grizzom- According to a number of postings which are excerpted below, Jones allegiance to Zionism stems from two things: 1) His core Protestant Fundamentalist-Zionist belief system, and, 2) Widely circulated reports that his wife is a Jew which would make their two children Jewish under Talmudic law.


Grizzom you lost all credibility when you went off on AJ's wife being Jewish.
If you haven't noticed yet, we here at the PA forum do not bash other people based on their religius beliefs, race or creed. Trash like that is best spread elsewhere.

As far as Alex Jones is concerned, many times he is too loud and brazen for my particular liking. He does however uncover things that we would not ordinarily hear about in the main stream news.
So I listen at times, because it helps me read between the lines of the news stories and I must say he is entertaining.

Furthermore he is serving the purpose of waking up ordinary people/ the grass roots who are oblivious to what is really going on in the world much less what we talk about here in Project Avalon.

Therefore, may God Bless the man no matter how maniacal he sounds at times.