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New Dawn
24th August 2011, 13:25
For quite some time, I've had to work with people that I really don't like or respect.

I used to like them, but over the last three years, some of them have shown themselves to be highly two-faced and the kind of people that I would choose to not have in my life if I had a choice.

One example of this would be that one of my co-workers asked me to secretly re-do some recorded work behind another one of my co-workers back. When you're working with creative people who you know or like, its very hard being in a position like this.

Anyway, I said "not without her consent". So they called her up and had to deal with it in front of me. I spoke to her too at the time and said I didn't think it was necessary to re-do, and that people were being harsh, but she gave them permission anyway, which made me feel like crap, cos now I had to wipe over her work.

That week turned out to be a week from hell.

I want to be careful how I word this, because my job is not like a normal job, I work in the entertainment industry.

When I'm stuck in a room with these people (or when we have to go away to another country), I find it ever so hard to communicate with them. Its really got to the point where their jokes alone want me to get the first plane home, but somehow I manage a smile, and often put my headphones on when travelling, and I'll listen to interviews with people like PA/PC or whatever I'm looking into at the time.

When you take the headphones off and catch a glimpse of the usual behaviour, believe me it makes things so hard.

While they're being "yeah we're so rock n roll look at how much we drink" or other cliche crap, I can't help but roll my eyes and think about getting online to read some intelligent info or whatever. Or even to just watch a movie.

Don't get me wrong, I enjoy a good drink from time to time (and this is about more than drink anyway), I just don't feel the need to play the game of who's cooler, or feel the need to try and entertain them. I sometimes have to share a room with them too, and I often don't get a moment alone for two weeks at a time.

I'm finding it harder and harder to hang in there. We've been working on something that has to be released next year, and I feel like I'll leave after that, because I have to see it through after all the hard work I've put in, but I'm just so tired of the bull****.

I told one of them (you could say the leader) that I want to leave, and was asked to stay until we see this through, which I promised I would, but rather than respect my honesty, one of the others does his best to make my life harder.

You'd think that after being honest, they'd at least respect that I've not left them in the lurch like the guy before me did, but it doesn't work that here.

I recently turned 33 and I just can't be bothered hanging around with adults who think and act like school children all of the time.

One of them tries to be a bit of a bully too, and I'm tired of having to be ready to argue back over every little thing. I don't have the time and life is too short.

I often hear a voice inside my head telling me that I'm betraying who I am for being a part of that whole image, and it gets louder everytime I see them and every time I come onto this forum.....

What would you do? Please don't just simply say you would leave - put yourself in my position.

Many thanks to all who read or reply.

Robert J. Niewiadomski
24th August 2011, 13:54
Hi

I know what you are talking about...

But you have made a promise not to leave the team untill you finished the project...
Until then try to see relations with your co-workers as lessons in appreciation,
forgiveness, compassion, humility, understanding and valor. I know it sounds
"soft" or seems impossible to achieve... You could give it a try...

The One
24th August 2011, 14:02
Thank you for posting this thread

I to work with a bunch of idiots and i have come to believe they have not woke up to reality that’s what’s going on in the real world.

They like their routine get up go work go out be stupid call names get drunk go home then they sleep. They like to repeat the process over and over again like Groundhog Day. I have developed selective hearing i only listen to what I want.

Remember my friend you have the power be strong

Corncrake
24th August 2011, 14:04
New Dawn - hang on in there. You have made the honourable decision to stay until the end of the project but after that get out! You are obviously in the wrong environment and do need to leave. FWIW I wasted many years of my life working in production companies and advertising which was clearly the wrong area for me - a world where stitching people up was seen as funny, long expense account lunches and excess drinking was the norm (this was the 1980's!) and infidelity and pornography were a laugh. In those days some production companies were even paid in cocaine. I was forever being told I had a cool job so against my instincts I stayed far too long. I eventually lost my self esteem and it took years to get it back. Life is short - do something you enjoy and feel comfortable with.

stdante
24th August 2011, 14:07
not the same work but same experience here :sad:

I choose to stay because I have a house to pay and four children to raise and no idea what to do else

a good help was learning how to manage relationships trough for example Ivan Stein's work about Breaking Control Dramas

FueIV9RZg-8

I hope you'll find a way

Star1111
24th August 2011, 14:15
Hi New Dawn
I can really sence your frustration ............ and annoyance at these people

I know you didn't want someone to say "leave", but you have 2 choices that I can see:

Option 1) leave (sorry) or
Option 2) understand that what you are seeing here and dealing with are humans acting with their mind/body/ego personalities and not their higher self.

Now they could in their quiet moments be aware of this and really be people who don't want to live this way and 'know' that they should be living as their higher selves, being true to who they really are. Perhaps they are not awake yet OR they feel peer pressure, but most likely its some sort of fear (which is normally the route of most bad behaviour).

So you have a choice - option 1 - but that won't cure anything as you are very likely to encounter similar types that are living/acting with their mind/body/ego wherever you go.
2) option 2 - try to understand that they may not be 'awake' yet and and 'pray' that they achieve enlightenment one day. Then send them love and 'send them on their way . Don't allow them to manipulate or bully you. RELEASE the affect they are having on YOU.

Also for your own sake, don't JUDGE THEM, and I think you probably are judging them; instead, GUIDE them if you can and only if you want to.
Hope this helps
Peace & LOVE to you.

dreamer
24th August 2011, 14:28
I feel like my work clashes with who I am.. Unfortunately I live in the oil and gas capitol, houston, so I work for the devil. I have told my co workers numerous times, I pray for the day I get laid off due to a new energy source widely available to all. But until then, I'll slave away for big oil..... Ugh...

SHOUT OUT TO EVERYONE WHO HATES (yea i know some people dont use that word) THE FACT THAT THEY WORK FOR AN EVIL EMPIRE AND CANT GET OUT!!

RedeZra
24th August 2011, 14:35
it's best to keep a distance from companies and characters that you don't feel comfortable with

if it's impossible to ignore them then be crystal clear that you expect them to respect your space

no need to smile or pretend that you put up with their jokes

if they don't clean up their acts when their around you then you have 3 choices

put up with it leave or go berserk ; )

Marianne
24th August 2011, 14:42
New Dawn, I don't remember where I first heard of it, but did you know that around 33 is the age when you will either make a move to something else, or become more entrenched in your circumstances. I have seen it happen so many times to people I know. That's not to say you can't move on after that, but there's something about that age. Sorry I can't be more specific.

But here's something that I hope will help you. When I first started my current job six years ago, I just hated it. The people around me were very difficult to be around. At the time I couldn't see any way out, because circumstances had hemmed me into this one place. And I've been around the block enough to know that someplace else isn't necessarily better. But being filled with anger and mistrust was ruining my health and I had to find a way to live a better life.

I decided to try some experimenting to see what I could do to help myself feel happier. I started using the power of intention, working with Abraham-Hicks processes (google it for info), and one by one things started to change. Some people left or moved somewhere else. Some people I found easy to ignore. It was a process. Now I find my job very easy, and find those around me easy to work with, or easy to ignore, and my surroundings match my intention to find some happiness each day.

I hope that doesn't sound too saccharine -- I'm a very practical person, not just spouting platitudes. This is really what happened. When I changed myself and my outlook/focus, the circumstances around me changed.

I hope this helps you, to see that you can control it. Let me know if you want any more info, etc.

Take joy,
Junebug

PS: I'm not saying you should stay in a hell-hole. I've been there too, and know sometimes your best choice is to get out.

Nyce555
24th August 2011, 14:45
Hi New Dawn.....For a second there I felt like we worked for the same company. Lol!!! My job is like High School. People walking around talking about people behind their backs and backstabbing folks. Managers in my department treat the good employees like they are the worst and the worst they give their accolades. It is horrible. For he most part, I tune everyone out and just do my job. Thankfully my immediate supervisor and I have a great relationship so I don't experience things directly. But I feel bad for my cowokers that do have to deal with it. It is soooo childish and people act like they are soooo important because of their title. People don't know how to separate work from real life sometimes. I feel sorry for them, because they have not learned how to do that yet and they are stuck in that immature world craving attention from their peers. As long as my work is getting done on time and is good quality work, that is he only thing that matters to me. So I definitely can simpathize with some of the shady things that take place in the workplace. I know they talk about me behind my back, but honestly I don't care because they are the ones that are not comfortable with themselves. I am happy being me and I am confident in my work so it doesn't bother me. So hang in there and pay those people no mind. They are just insecure and are trying to play mind games to get to you. If you stay true to who you are and do your work, then eventually they will fall back because they know they have no control over you.

ulli
24th August 2011, 14:50
What Robert said in post #2 above does work, and it is about transformation.
We live in an age where virtue building has become a must.
We all want to see a better world, yet we know we can't make anyone else into some they are not, only ourselves.
So when you see someone do anything, no matter how small, that can be seen as positive,
Show appreciation.
When one of your collegues looks upset for some reason, show compassion.
When they rub you in an unpleasant manner, show forgiveness.
When they want to put you down, in order to elevate their own status, show humility.
When they behave in a contradictory manner show understanding.
And when they ask you to do something that you consider immoral or unethical show valor.

By the time your contract ends you have become a jewel, and you can thank all of them for helping you.
Then you will be ready to take a top job in a field that you love and become a free person.

WhiteFeather
24th August 2011, 14:53
Being a human being and living the life experience in itself on a daily basis is a lesson truly made by oneself and oneself only. Making decisions are all a part of this life experience or life journey and why we incarnated here in the first place, if you will. My Thoughts are, Use your intuition, learn the lesson, and get ready for the next decisions you make in life's journey or experience.

We all work with people like this im sure. What works for me is I simply blank it out of my mind and try and find peace and serenity within. Again this works for me its my journey and my life experience, not yours. What we think we become. Hope i didnt confuse you.

truth4me
24th August 2011, 15:04
I feel like my work clashes with who I am.. Unfortunately I live in the oil and gas capitol, houston, so I work for the devil. I have told my co workers numerous times, I pray for the day I get laid off due to a new energy source widely available to all. But until then, I'll slave away for big oil..... Ugh... the sad part is most people including myself have to work for "big brother" type businesses. Just about everything is connected with" big brother" .Be it in entertainment or a clerk in a grocery store. I will not lower myself to the point of lying to people or treating people like crap to advance. This is why in the past I never moved up the ladder so to speak. I didn't get along with a supervisor once because I wouldn't hook him up on a date with a girl even though he was married. Stuff like that. They will tell you to be honest and loyal yet they would have a checker cut coupons out of newspapers to get money back from companies even though no customer turned the coupons in. That's stealing no matter how you look at it . I seen people steal rib eye steaks and get caught and let go without calling the police because they were connected in the community yet I seen a kid who got caught stealing at the same store get hauled off to jail over a .50 cent candy bar.......

Lazlo
24th August 2011, 15:13
New Dawn,
I may be a bit jaded but my initial response is "Welcome to the real world"

33 is the age where I started to see things not as I wished them to be, but as they simply are. The vast majority of people are far more interested in pop culture and their own little dramas than in anything else. They will say all of the right things if you talk to them, but a bottle of vinegar with a smiley face on it is still just a bottle of vinegar.

I work in an "oovy groovey" business that is all about saving the world: We build solar and wind plants. Couldn't be any better right? Well, here's the reality.

There are no tie-dyes and birkenstocks, it's all power ties and wingtips, and people are just as petty and mean spirited as I have seen anywhere else.

So what do I do? I keep my professional relationships precisely that, professional. When you consistently rise above the petty behavior, people will see that they don't get the reactions that they are looking for and they will begin to look somewhere else for easier games to play. When the day is over, I leave work at work, and I concentrate on my personal life, my family ,friends, pets, and hobbies. When I go back in the morning, I am recharged and I have the strength to smile and say to myself:

I work to support my lifestyle, my lifestyle does not exist to support my work.

Cjay
24th August 2011, 15:17
Hi New Dawn,

I understand that keeping your word is an important part of your personal integrity, as was your decision to do the right thing by those people who irritate you so much. I spent about 20 years in the entertainment biz as a muzo (musician) and as a recording engineer so I'm very familiar with the kind of behaviour that is causing you to want to leave. I encourage you to hang in there and see the project through but if the situation is untenable, then you have to take care of yourself FIRST. There are plenty of decent, mature people who would be a joy to work with. I hope you find them. Meanwhile, since you have made your decision to leave, that should give you an advantage in that you might be better able to brush off the irritations and don't let their BS drag you down. Good luck.

TWINCANS
24th August 2011, 15:17
Guess a few Avalonians have worked in creative fields. I did too in my starter career. Interesting 'work environment' I was in. Ad sr vp, major brewery client, entertainment industry, sports links, the works. Ego-driven alcohol-fueled backstab-officionados. The only relief I had (ha) were my 'minor' clients; banks and fed govt health dept. I took at least five years to reprogram.

As I now see it, the issue is not to leave or not to leave. It's when will they not want you around? That whole environment is a very low frequency space. The more enlightened you become, the more light you shine, like a flashlight into their space. That exposes many dark corners - just like you have just experienced. This kind of thing will keep happening to you, finding yourself in the middle of secrets. Right now, they are probably happy to use your energy. But time will come when energy vampiring you doesn't make up for all the exposure. When you look at them like they're from another planet, some part of them at the higher level agrees with you. They will become very uncomfortable around you.

Then as you keep increasing your auric light, you will rise above their world altogether. They will gradually not even see you, literally. It's the weirdest thing.

This is not judgement on them, just discernment. Everyone has their own path. I just offer you another way of looking at your situation - to 'see' the energy exchange and how it might be evolving as you change.

Peace of Mind
24th August 2011, 15:39
I know what you mean, New Dawn...

The industry is riddled with inconsiderate people. If you’re in it for the money, just do your part and move on. This experience should help in guiding you towards move pleasant and productive people, but don’t expect too much of a Hugh difference in personalities…as the industry is an important tool in dumbing down the populace.
Most (so called) “artist” in the entertainment biz today is carefully selected. They are used as trend setters to market sex/materialism/money/violence, sin. They use “sell outs” to sell out records and film…at the same time destroying the moral fabric of society. Unknowingly these artists often shape the young minds by using the secret power of music (which is another important topic).
A great deal of these artists is use to not having nothing, so when such an opportunity arises… they hardly know how to act. The evidence is shown in their lyrics, attitudes and lifestyles. Once they get a taste of the cream…the sweet taste of success turns them into arrogant, deluded jerks. This has been a serious issue for a long time.
The brass of the industry only cares about their bottom line and the certain negative influences it can cause on the people. The most successful people (in music) would have gone thru various rituals…to keep the upper hand of power over artist. Some call this part of the industry “selling your soul”. This biz is really not for the faint of heart. You really have to love what you do. As for me, over the last couple of years, I and a few affiliates are changing this system from the inside out. It’s a beast but we know how powerful it is and refuse to have it continually used on our kids and the unsuspecting. Results of our combined efforts are slowly manifesting, conscious minded music/film is being pushed out more than ever before, not only are people starting to take notice…they are displaying their appreciation for it too.
Anyone involved in music, film, etc… stay strong, positive, talk to your artists (respectfully) and move on to the next project…for these people will influence the naïve and innocent.
Peace

TWINCANS
24th August 2011, 16:47
As for me, over the last couple of years, I and a few affiliates are changing this system from the inside out.

That's some deep rabbit hole you're going down. Good luck. BTW I don't see any change out there in the marketplace. In fact it's worse. Last evening I went to a large concert tagetted mainly at 8-10yr old girls. The warm up material (including screen with lyrics scroll) was full of material that exposes them to the lowest motivations of humanity, as if it's the expectation that they learn this to be an adult. Most of them were belting out the lyrics with all their wee might. The sound was llterally deafening. The beat was a continuous assault on the unopened sexual chakkra. All under the guise of those wonderful childhood leaders - Disney.

New Dawn
24th August 2011, 16:53
Woah, a lot of really good feedback here. I'll be chewing on all of this for a while. Thanks a lot for all of your help - its really helping me see a little more clearly about how to handle my situation.

It goes to show - I've been doing this job for 20 years almost to the day, because I started at 13 believe it or not!!!! But the biggest challenge has come at 33. I will be ok, and seriously, I'm very grateful for you all taking the time to help me.

ND

Peace of Mind
24th August 2011, 18:05
As for me, over the last couple of years, I and a few affiliates are changing this system from the inside out.

That's some deep rabbit hole you're going down. Good luck. BTW I don't see any change out there in the marketplace. In fact it's worse. Last evening I went to a large concert tagetted mainly at 8-10yr old girls. The warm up material (including screen with lyrics scroll) was full of material that exposes them to the lowest motivations of humanity, as if it's the expectation that they learn this to be an adult. Most of them were belting out the lyrics with all their wee might. The sound was llterally deafening. The beat was a continuous assault on the unopened sexual chakkra. All under the guise of those wonderful childhood leaders - Disney.

You’re right. The rabbit hole is pretty deep and bleak, but I’ve learned how to descend it with a safety harness of courage. Record company’s/loan sharks aren’t really interested in signing new (rarely tapped) talent because of uncertainties in the market. Therefore, they play it safe by either riding the work horses they already have in the stables or sign people that will continue to promote the images of the “badass” and “sexuality”. My ultimate goal is to bring awareness and accountability to those that are put into the public view. It’s not easy, but subtle changes are happening. It could be a whole lot worse than it actually is.

What causes most artists to backslide or contemplate their obligations is the fame. When fans continue to put these artists on pedestals, they (fans and artists) relinquish their own uniqueness and responsibility. I do consider musicians/thespians to be role models…and that’s mainly a proclamation due to the inactivity of real parenting.

Violence has always been a part of entertainment, once we change the way we view this… then significant changes will be seen from more perspectives. As of now, small leaps and bounds is all a few insiders can make until the majority of civilians recognize what is truly happening and do their parts to assist. Parents should be more vocal and pro-active about what is being exposed to their younglings. When you have cartoon characters teaching you how to find joy in others pain, and how to disrespect and be selfish……to reverse that process will not be an easy task for the very few within the industry attempting to change it. The industry only exists because the people support it. It will change when the people’s minds change. Until then, all that can be done is plant seeds in certain artist with the power to bring about that change. It’s not something that will happen overnight. On the other hand… with the assistance of the parents/guardian, this issue can be taken care of immediately.

Peace

Lifebringer
24th August 2011, 18:40
I used to be in that position, but since I took up the green trades, I'm happy as a clam on the reef.

HORIZONS
24th August 2011, 18:52
For quite some time, I've had to work with people that I really don't like or respect.

I used to like them, but over the last three years, some of them have shown themselves to be highly two-faced and the kind of people that I would choose to not have in my life if I had a choice.

I have completely changed my career three times in the last seven years because of this issue. It gets to the point where I cannot be around their energy any longer - so I end up leaving and moving on (and some were rather good jobs) rather than deal with the low vibrations of certain people any longer. But the grass is always greener so to speak, and alas I find that I cannot escape people of low vibration, but I can limit the time I spend with them. The job I have now has a big downside to it but I can work alone most of the time, but the fact is I will probably never really be happy with work (a four letter word) until there is a new paradigm of higher vibrations with the populace I always seem to find myself immersed in. Still, I find I am always looking for an open door...

HORIZONS
24th August 2011, 18:57
I used to be in that position, but since I took up the green trades, I'm happy as a clam on the reef.

Please elaborate more?

Lord Sidious
25th August 2011, 01:49
It is certainly a hard question.
On the one hand I would say to you guys, be true to yourselves, never compromise yourself and who you are, but then again, you guys might have that strange religious belief I do too.
I like to eat.
Finding that medium can be hard, this is true, but we should also realise, that these situations arise for a reason.
School has tests all through, avoid the test, you don't graduate.

TargeT
25th August 2011, 01:58
Woah, a lot of really good feedback here. I'll be chewing on all of this for a while. Thanks a lot for all of your help - its really helping me see a little more clearly about how to handle my situation.

It goes to show - I've been doing this job for 20 years almost to the day, because I started at 13 believe it or not!!!! But the biggest challenge has come at 33. I will be ok, and seriously, I'm very grateful for you all taking the time to help me.

ND

33 is supose to be when the nervious system finaly matures and you are "spiritualy" mature; this could be due to that.



I used to be in that position, but since I took up the green trades, I'm happy as a clam on the reef.

Just because your new system is shiny and squeeky doesn't mean it's not just another cage with fresh paint...

but maybe I'm confusing your use of "green trades".. if this has anything to do with the environment; then I think you are blissfully ignorant and should stay that way if it suits you.

If not do some research into your company, their financial ties (as those are usualy much easier to find & infer intent from, than actualy finding real intent).. I doubt there is much "good" in orginized structures right now, there are "good" (or at least confused) people, but the whole is rarely a good thing. The pyramid structure of control is foriegn to us for a reason.

Davidallany
25th August 2011, 02:44
I used to like them, but over the last three years, some of them have shown themselves to be highly two-faced and the kind of people that I would choose to not have in my life if I had a choice.

Those people are insecure, two face people means that they are lost in the physical world, the dream like life, reacting to protect their illusory dying bodies "self" from imaginary foes, it's preemptive actions they seek to secure their shadow existence. Its truly heart breaking to see so many people trapped in this situation. The only cure for this is wakefulness, we do not care what others do. We only take great care of what we think, feel and do. That is what matters, everything else is a shadow.
If we react to people's actions or thoughts "for those telepathic" then we become infected.
I wise man once said.


Do not pursue the past.
Do not lose yourself in the future.
The past no longer is.
The future has not yet come.

Looking deeply at life as it is in the very here and now,
The practitioner dwells in stability and freedom.
We must be diligent today.
To wait until tomorrow is too late.

It is said that soon after His Enlightenment, the Buddha passed a man on the road
who was struck by the Buddha's extraordinary radiance and peaceful presence.
The man stopped and asked:
"My friend, what are you? Are you a celestial being or a god?"
"No," said the Buddha.
"Well, then, are you some kind of magician or wizard?"
Again the Buddha answered, "No."
"Are you a man?" "No."
"Well, my friend, then what are you?"
The Buddha replied, "I am AWAKE."

Live in Joy, in Love,
Even among those who hate.
Live in Joy, in Health,
Even among the afflicted.
Live in Joy, in Peace,
Even among the troubled.
Look within. Be still.
Free from fear and attachment,
Know the sweet joy of the Way.
Master your senses,
What you taste and smell,
What you see,
What you hear.

In all things
Be a Master of what you do,
and say, and think.
BE FREE.

Are you quiet?
Calm your body.
Calm your mind.
By your own efforts
Waken yourself,
Watch yourself,
And live Joyfully.
Follow the truth of The Way.
Reflect upon it.
Make it your own.
Live it.
It will always sustain you.

ghostrider
25th August 2011, 05:24
To get the best out of people give them the best of yourself. you can lead , you can follow, or do nothing , or talk of leading, following or doing nothing. everyone fits into one of these catagories. You must meet them in their world and gradually bring them into yours. stand on your principals no matter what and you'll stand out and they will listen and learn. thus making the weakest link stronger. the weak link gets stronger the entire team is stronger. I know what you are saying , it gets tiresome , the lack of any common sense about anything, co-workers don't know anything and usuallly the more arrogant and ignorant the faster they rise up the ladder, really #$@@@# me off but that's the matrix for you. sometimes don't you feel sad they are totally blind to whats about to happen and the real world around them.

mosquito
25th August 2011, 05:37
It is certainly a hard question.
On the one hand I would say to you guys, be true to yourselves, never compromise yourself and who you are, but then again, you guys might have that strange religious belief I do too.
I like to eat.
Finding that medium can be hard, this is true, but we should also realise, that these situations arise for a reason.
School has tests all through, avoid the test, you don't graduate.

Well put.
In my early 30's I changed jobs, and did what I really wanted to do, working as an acupuncturist. Was I happy ? In some respects, yes, but in others no. Most of the people I encountered in the alternative/complimentary medicine field in the UK in the 90's were a disingenuous bunch of 2 faced back stabbers ! I loved the work itsself, but the pressure of being self-employed didn't work for me. I learned a lot, and while some parts of my practice were a huge success, others (money and other mundane matters) were less so.
After too much change to even begin to mention, I'm now an English teacher working in a high school, with one day a week in a primary school. And just like every other job, there are things I like and things I don't like. You don't get office politics or pettiness with 7 year olds !!!!!!
I suppose the point I'm trying to get across is that whatever situation we find ourselves in during our lives, there are always aspects which we can find fulfilling, aspects which we find frustrating, ways in which we can give to others and ways in which we can learn.
So take heart New Dawn, you'll find something that's just right for you, but in the meantime give 100% to the role you're in, then maybe the universe will reward you with some magic !! ;)

New Dawn
25th August 2011, 11:10
you lot are awesome! Thanks :)

I'm seeing them tomorrow, and I'll be going into it with a different approach and outlook.

ND

DoubleHelix
25th August 2011, 12:38
Well this has been truly inspiring! I know where to seek advice if I'm ever stuck for ideas and a bit of support! Your in good hands here New Dawn!

Your situation is definitely a tough one, is there any way you could transfer your skills toward a new field or occupation? They say the average person experiences a few career changes over the course of their life, maybe you've arrived at a crossroad with new opportunities staring you in the face. For me it's all about perception, a problem will remain a problem as long as one perceives it that way. During my last job I was having difficulties with a female colleague, we just didn't get along and I really didn't enjoy working along side her. It dawned upon me that the problem was only a problem because I believed in it. I was supplying energy to a non-existent belief! I took some time out to contemplate the issue then returned to work with a new perception and mindstate. In my mind our work relationship no longer presented a problem but an opportunity. Funnily enough the next time we worked together we began to get along famously and ended up becoming friends! Isn't it strange how life works!

This concept may not apply to every situation, but the basic principles hold universal significance! I now see problems as opportunities!

off_the grid
25th August 2011, 13:09
you lot are awesome! Thanks :)

I'm seeing them tomorrow, and I'll be going into it with a different approach and outlook.

ND

I'll give you a different perspective.....

Life is short....if you can face the consequences then quit.

This pollyanna stuff posted by many doesn't work for everyone.

Many changes and many tests come at us in our lives; and consequently no guarantees.

You don't owe anyone anything.

Think of it this way....will people talk about it in 6 months; how about 6 years?

We put a lot of self importance to work....it's just a job.

If we don't like working for the man, or the place we work at...then change....Change is good.

In the big scheme of things, what we do or don't do at work is insignificant....but society will tell you otherwise.

Star1111
25th August 2011, 13:16
Pollyanna is a Godess!

"A young girl comes to an embittered town and confronts its attitude with her determination to see the best in life.


Director: David Swift
Writers: Eleanor H. Porter (novel), David Swift (written for the screen by)
Stars:Jane Wyman, Hayley Mills and Richard Egan

pickle
25th August 2011, 13:17
Good luck ND.

When you go back to work, centre your Karma, rely on your inner strength, your inner peace, and confidence in your spirit....


..and the bully? Swift knee in the gonads ;)


Peace,

Pickle

Lazlo
25th August 2011, 15:19
This concept may not apply to every situation, but the basic principles hold universal significance! I now see problems as opportunities!

I got a smile out of that. In my company, it is considered taboo to say that we have a problem with something. The politically correct thing to say is that you were presented with a new opportunity. ;)

Marianne
25th August 2011, 15:46
you lot are awesome! Thanks :)

I'm seeing them tomorrow, and I'll be going into it with a different approach and outlook.

ND

I'll give you a different perspective.....

Life is short....if you can face the consequences then quit.

This pollyanna stuff posted by many doesn't work for everyone.

Many changes and many tests come at us in our lives; and consequently no guarantees.

You don't owe anyone anything.

Think of it this way....will people talk about it in 6 months; how about 6 years?

We put a lot of self importance to work....it's just a job.

If we don't like working for the man, or the place we work at...then change....Change is good.

In the big scheme of things, what we do or don't do at work is insignificant....but society will tell you otherwise.

Offthegrid, I hear what you are saying. I've bounced back and forth with that myself.

However, over the course of my life I've found that life keeps presenting me with the same issue in a different package. And the circumstances got worse each time I avoided facing my stuff.
I had one job where I was replaced with 2 and a half people... what a dope I was to work so hard, and after I was gone it didn't matter much to them.

Once I stepped up and faced it, it went away. Simple as that.

TargeT
25th August 2011, 16:40
In the big scheme of things, what we do or don't do at work is insignificant....but society will tell you otherwise.

Offthegrid, I hear what you are saying. I've bounced back and forth with that myself.

However, over the course of my life I've found that life keeps presenting me with the same issue in a different package. And the circumstances got worse each time I avoided facing my stuff.
I had one job where I was replaced with 2 and a half people... what a dope I was to work so hard, and after I was gone it didn't matter much to them.

Once I stepped up and faced it, it went away. Simple as that.

I couldn't agree more..

& Personally I think "The grass is greener" because you aren't ready (or the setting isn't "right"?) to learn the lessons you need at your current location.. so we get "wanderlust" or restless, then we try the new place and find the same little microcasm.

I'm currently dealing with a confrontation at work, it involves emotions & what I consider some petty actions.. what I'm AMAZED by is how TEMPTING it is to participate in the (my term) "childishness"; how hard it is to not try and "give back" what I feel I'm "getting" from the other person.

I've chosen to be overly nice & accomidating, even in that I find myself using cleverly worded sentences that take away from the other person. I'm slightly disapointed in myself but I enjoy the fact that I've identified this and will definately continue to work on it.

New challenges indeed.

Marianne
25th August 2011, 17:16
TargeT,

Thanks for your post. Good point about the grass is greener/wanderlust.

We are all still human, aren't we? And it's wonderful to have emotions and feel passionate enough about something that you have to defend it. For me, the key is knowing how to work with the emotion so the situation turns in my favor. That sounds more appealing to me than a battle--everybody wins, or someone goes away if they don't like my world.

I would say, try to be careful with the overly nice bit--I used to do that too. It doesn't get you much of anyplace, except maybe to tread water til you can figure out what to do. Spoken by someone who bounced from place to place, each one a little more difficult than the last one, and tried every approach I knew. It took a metaphorical brick to the head to make me 'get it.'

If you want some easy, fun processes to help you, PM me and I'll give you websites and info.

TargeT
25th August 2011, 17:20
I would say, try to be careful with the overly nice bit--I used to do that too. It doesn't get you much of anyplace, except maybe to tread water til you can figure out what to do.

I agree, except that it's because i've identified why I did that action: public preception

so my intent was not pure, thus the action will do as you said; at best maintain the problem (perhaps giving me more opertunity to correct it in a better way)

I never turn away info, and a thread like this would surely benifit from what it sounds like your offering; I say post it here as it seems on topic to me :)

off_the grid
26th August 2011, 05:45
In the big scheme of things, what we do or don't do at work is insignificant....but society will tell you otherwise.

Offthegrid, I hear what you are saying. I've bounced back and forth with that myself.

However, over the course of my life I've found that life keeps presenting me with the same issue in a different package. And the circumstances got worse each time I avoided facing my stuff.
I had one job where I was replaced with 2 and a half people... what a dope I was to work so hard, and after I was gone it didn't matter much to them.

Once I stepped up and faced it, it went away. Simple as that.

I couldn't agree more..

& Personally I think "The grass is greener" because you aren't ready (or the setting isn't "right"?) to learn the lessons you need at your current location.. so we get "wanderlust" or restless, then we try the new place and find the same little microcasm.

I'm currently dealing with a confrontation at work, it involves emotions & what I consider some petty actions.. what I'm AMAZED by is how TEMPTING it is to participate in the (my term) "childishness"; how hard it is to not try and "give back" what I feel I'm "getting" from the other person.

I've chosen to be overly nice & accomidating, even in that I find myself using cleverly worded sentences that take away from the other person. I'm slightly disapointed in myself but I enjoy the fact that I've identified this and will definately continue to work on it.

New challenges indeed.

The reason the grass is greener, is that it actually is a lot of the time.

There are many people here writing fluffy and politically correct answers.

If we were to stay in every situation or having to learn from them all, we wouldn't have a thing called "choice".

There is no reason to stay in situations that are wrong for you....including work, relationships etc.

Positive feelings are preferred by most people, but all feelings are valid....so when it comes to life choose what is right for your experience,

even if others tell you otherwise.

ps. who says we are here to learn anything? That is just a belief or an idea......

TWINCANS
26th August 2011, 05:54
I guess I feel inside that learning has made a difference in my 'beingness'. So the way I see it, there's no reason to stay in situations that are wrong for you - once you've taken all the learning from it. Then actually you owe it to your further growth to move along. But that's just how I see it. Some people can make all the right moves and not have to know that they've just picked up that key bit of learning. Same path, better intuition.

New Dawn
26th August 2011, 09:43
There's a lot of interesting perspectives in this thread. I guess what I'm going to do it try to carry on until I've fulfilled my commitment to them, and try to change the way I react to the things that bother me, so I can leave there with a clear heart and mind when the time comes next year (it just seems so far away right now). Its not going to be easy, but hopefully a new outlook will get me through until I can leave. I can't wait for that day though :)

My time is coming to try new things...

HORIZONS
26th August 2011, 12:59
Sometimes you just have to do what's "right" for you, no matter what anyone else thinks. This is not being selfish - this is taking care of "you" so you can be at your best, and a positive influence to others. It can be very unhealthy to stay in situations that are infused with negative energy, as this will drain you and you will become depleted of your spiritual, mental and physical health. The trick is to not make rash decisions, but to follow your inner guidance - yes there will always be problems to face, that's life, but the energy of your well-being is of great importance to facing those problems.

Marianne
30th August 2011, 16:58
I would say, try to be careful with the overly nice bit--I used to do that too. It doesn't get you much of anyplace, except maybe to tread water til you can figure out what to do.

I never turn away info, and a thread like this would surely benifit from what it sounds like your offering; I say post it here as it seems on topic to me :)

TargeT,
Sorry to be so long getting back with processes. What I'll do is post links to some websites with a bit about what you'll find on each one.

http://www.abraham-hicks.com/lawofattractionsource/about_abraham.php
The main site. First look at 'A Synopsis of Teachings' on the right hand side. That gives you the basic philosophy and you can tell right away if this material will resonate with you. On 'next steps' tab you can download a free introduction to help you get started. And there are some book excerpts.

http://whatanicewebsite.com/faces/
A site where Abe folks can post stuff, and get together online. Under resources there are some links to processes and to workshop notes. A wealth of information.

http://whatanicewebsite.com/Connee/Lessons_List.htm
The Abe books contain a good many processes, and this site has them, or most of them, with more details and how people are using them. It's my favorite. The link here puts you right onto Connee's page with the processes. For example, there's something called pivoting, defined as:
"Pivot -- To consciously change the direction of one's thought. To deliberately choose a thought that is in vibrational harmony with one's desire."

Have a look, and let me know if you -- or other Avalonians have any questions There's already an Abraham thread on Avalon, so prob best to take any discussions over there.
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?4824-Powerful-Spiritual-Pep-Talks-Abraham-Hicks

a couple more Abe threads
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?4421-Abraham-Hicks-video-on-the-gathering-of-teachers-and-counselors-.-.-.-.&highlight=abraham
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?5576-Abraham-Hicks-About-The-Year-2012&highlight=abraham

All love,
Marianne

TargeT
31st August 2011, 04:32
"Pivot -- To consciously change the direction of one's thought. To deliberately choose a thought that is in vibrational harmony with one's desire."

All love,
Marianne

This sounds like your attempting to create wave propigation! (related to what I'm researching now)

I'm seeing connections everywhere, I will definately come back to this as soon as I've exhausted myself on quantum physics.. the potential I see there is so enticing..

<8>
31st August 2011, 18:12
Hi New Dawn...

I stopt working about 2 years ago, maybe not for the exact same reasons as you. But there was just something that screamed no in me.
I workt in other countries away for years, i made money ofc, But when i got home for a week or so. I cruised wid my new car, but the only thing i could feel was empty inside.

I see there are them here who say to hang in there. (I dont agree) But it is ofc up to you! Only you know what the consequences will be.

For me it was the best thing i ever done. (i am here..:)

Listen to your heart is the only thing i can say...

New Dawn
31st August 2011, 18:17
Hi New Dawn...

I stopt working about 2 years ago, maybe not for the exact same reasons as you. But there was just something that screamed no in me.
I workt in other countries away for years, i made money ofc, But when i got home for a week or so. I cruised wid my new car, but the only thing i could feel was empty inside.

I see there are them here who say to hang in there. (I dont agree) But it is ofc up to you! Only you know what the consequences will be.

For me it was the best thing i ever done. (i am here..:)

Listen to your heart is the only thing i can say...

Thank you mate! I'm taking it day by day, somehow it seems to make me stronger than looking at the length of time that I'm meant to hang in there for...

TargeT
31st August 2011, 19:31
Thank you mate! I'm taking it day by day, somehow it seems to make me stronger than looking at the length of time that I'm meant to hang in there for...

what length of time, how do you know how long you have to "hang in there" for?

HORIZONS
31st August 2011, 19:57
I'm taking it day by day, somehow it seems to make me stronger than looking at the length of time

For me this is how I stay sane!

Mike
31st August 2011, 20:36
i believe Charles Bukowski said it best in his book 'Factotum':

"it was true that i didn't have any ambition, but there ought to be a place for people without ambition, i mean a better place than the one usually reserved. how in the hell could a man enjoy being awakened at 6:30am by an alarm clock, leap out of bed, dress, force-feed, sh#t, piss, brush teeth and hair, and fight traffic to get to a place where essentially you made lots of money for somebody else and were asked to be grateful for the opportunity to do so?"