connection between your name and yourself

[Renne]

Hi, all

We've all read stuff about how your name can influence your mind, your path, your everything. When given the right name, everything in your life is just right, and a person with a wrong name always need to experience and suffer a lot to find its right path.

There are some people who have wrong names. And I think my case is quite extreme, so I want to share it here.

Every time when I was introduced with my name, I felt clumsy and didn't know how to behave. Cause when hearing the words "this is xxx", something would always cry from the deep "no, this isn't."

Having a wrong name make me understand perfectly how a name can do things to my life. I can feel myself possessed. It grows and strengthens like a cancer. I can feel every cell of my body filled up with grievance. Above all, my heart feels brutally offended.

I can feel its energy even stronger when I try to live on the right trajectory or to understand my real self. I always try to think of my real name but never succeeded. I like the story of Spirited Away. I find it resonates in me. Yubaba makes her worker hers by taking their names and giving their new names herself. Haku told Chihiro that she must remember her name, or she would be like himself, working for Yubaba forever, because he had forgotten his name and therefore his way home.

That's quite like me and my mother. She's the one who gave me the name, and she has this power over me that I can't surpass.

I don't know when I can find my real name. But now I'm 21, and given the situation here, there's a lot to live on......

[White Rabbit]

you are so right about having the wrong name.... I went as far as changing mine legally... but when someone calls me by that original name... eiwwwww I cringe and feel horrible. there is more to my story and I have more than one or two names...

[Renne]

you are so right about having the wrong name.... I went as far as changing mine legally... but when someone calls me by that original name... eiwwwww I cringe and feel horrible. there is more to my story and I have more than one or two names...

I have tried many names, too. But none is suitable so far, maybe I'm just so blind for trying.

[ulli]

Years ago I met the manager of the western hemisphere for Barclay's Bank.
His name was George Money....no kidding.

[Nyce555]

I used to hate my name when I was a kid. I just felt like it wasn't me, but as I got older it grew on me. I read in a book somewhere that on the "Other Side" we have our true names and when we incarnate on Earth the names that we are given are different from what we are used to being called. When we arrive here through birth, we might feel confused and not comfortable with the new name we have been given. When I heard this, it made so much sense to me. I remember being a kid and not likeing me name and I also didn't like the fact that I was a girl, but as time went on I embraced those things as this is who I am in this incarnation.

[Star1111]

Renne - how strange and wonderful that you started this thread. I thought it was just me!! I thought I was being a bit precious, but I have to say the name I was given (which actually was not the first thought my Mother had to call me ..... long story) feels SO VERY WRONG for me and always has. Like White Rabbit, I cringe when someone calls me by my name AND when I have to say my name I feel, well, embarrassed ! Its a very commen name, nothing unusual about it. Maybe that's it !! Anyway, its strange and wonderful because I was just thinking about this again very recently and thought maybe I should just change it, but then I thought "what's in a name, a rose by any other name would smell as sweet" but I certainly shouldn't have been called this name. The first one my Mother thought of was SO VERY RIGHT for me and I would have loved to have been called that and it would have suited me. She should not have been influenced and stuck to her guns. Still, we soldier on I guess. Good to know that I'm not alone in this.

[Andrew D Doyle]

I agree with this subject in context, I have googled my name and have found more than coincidence that we collectively share occupations and indeed hobbies...Andrew Doyle I firmly believe there is a science in DNA to all this as my parents said I was named by a nurse....and am the first Andrew in our lineage..

[nearing]

In the US, at least, it isn't too difficult to change ones name. There are lots lot paperwork and an FBI check that takes months to wait for and then you go in front of a judge who asks you why you want to change your name (they want to be sure it isn't because you committed a crime and are running). The judge may roll his eyes when he hears the emotional reason for wanting to but in the end he pounds his gavel and you have a new name!

Once you find your true name, just change it!

[Renne]

Star1111, I'm surprised, too, to find there are people just like me. I thought I should go quest this real name. But now Nyce555 has inspired me that I can calm down and embrace it. There's two way now, problem is, which one is the "just right" one???

[Star1111]

the right way........ is whatever feels right for you. I have a friend who felt the same way, she changed her name to Angel and she is happier now because of it I think. Each to their own.

[Renne]

I agree with this subject in context, I have googled my name and have found more than coincidence that we collectively share occupations and indeed hobbies...Andrew Doyle I firmly believe there is a science in DNA to all this as my parents said I was named by a nurse....and am the first Andrew in our lineage..

Wow, THAT is really strange. Well, my name is kinda unique and ungooglable. Then I have the odd side of my character!

[ulli]

I also belong to the group of people who couldn't stand their given name.
Now I understand the deeper meaning behind it: to be uncomfortable with ANYTHING means we are provided with a spring board to create change.
The faster change occurs the faster we grow.
Then one day we discover the truth about the option between duality and oneness.
This brings entirely new territory of exploration.
At this point we can begin accept those aspects of ourselves that we previously rejected...
Whether it is in forgiving our parents, or ourselves.
We settle into a totally new kind of comfort zone...
ulli, humming the Beatles song "Let It Be" ....

[Caren]

Interesting thread - At our local children's hospital where I worked as a nurse we had a 'Doctor Nurse' - his name use to make the older kids laugh in disbelief. We also had on staff 'Doctor Hand' - an orthopedic
surgeon :)

[cacklingmuse]

my husband and I didn't name our son for 3 months after he was born...no name fit..we didn't want to name him after anybody we knew. then one morning we looked at eachother and said "benjamin"! he is such a benjamin, too!

[nearing]

Interesting thread - At our local children's hospital where I worked as a nurse we had a 'Doctor Nurse' - his name use to make the older kids laugh in disbelief. We also had on staff 'Doctor Hand' - an orthopedic
surgeon :)

The world's most foremost expert on Osteoporosis is Dr. Bone at St. John Hospital in Detroit. LOL.

[Lord Sidious]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alfred_(name)
These are the names given to me by my parents.

[Caren]

Haha nearing.. I believe it.
We also had a Doctor Smiley on staff (not an uncommon name in these parts) but he wasn't a dentist.
However - a very fitting name for a Doctor whom worked with children :)

[Fred Steeves]

Mine's kind of backwards. I had my last name legally changed at 15 to my step dad's name who raised me, a really great guy. A couple of decades later though I came to realize that was a foolish youthful mistake. I resonate much more with the original last name, but once you get to a certain age and enough people know you by a certain name, including your wife sharing it, it's a bit late. Just think, ya'll could have known me as Fred D. Oh well, so it goes.

Cheers,
Fred

[ulli]

Freddy. D.? Freddiedoodah? Oops, sorry, I thought I was in chat.

[Fred Steeves]

Freddy. D.? Freddiedoodah? Oops, sorry, I thought I was in chat.

Amazingly close ulli, except you're thinking of my twin brother Zippadee...

Cheers,
Fred

[conk]

I'm so glad my mother named me Conk, because that's what everyone calls me. How did she know? ;)

I was in the Army with a guy named Bill Private. He became Private Private. Also had a Captain Major and now work with a Major Pane. I went to school with a girl named Pam Fuchs and she pronounced just exactly like you think she NEVER would!!!

[Marsila]

I like both names my parents gave me, one of which i use here but misspell.

But name does have an effect on us, at one point in time i let people call me which ever they preferred (such some of my family calls me Marcela and the other my first name) and my experiences and how others seem to view me, are different but similar according to which name they call me.

I think there was some site called kabbalarians.com or something like that, all about how luck changes in accordance to what you name with you family name is.

if you chose a name you "resonate" with better than the one you have, then by all means just change it. you are more aware of your energy than anyone else.

also interesting is i had a friend, who i knew by a certain name all her life, same with her sisters, then one day she's holding her passport and it's a total different name, and she explained "this is the name our parents gave us, then when each of us was 5 they asked us what we want to be called," her older and younger sister used the nicknames children would like, she chose another "normal" name but which suited her better. But i found her parents highly intelligent and interesting people for doing this, and it worked well for that family, each one of the girls is an extremely highly successful person in life.

[shadowstalker]

From time to time I still cant deal with my name (Jurjana) but not because its not kewl or it don't resonate or anything like that.
But because folks can not seem to pronounce it correctly on site.

I am not named after any one in my family in any generation.
I am the only one in my family who is not hyphenated.
I am the only one with no middle name among my siblings.
My siblings are either namesakes or have a middle name dedicated to their grandparents. And I am the second born.(go figure)

[Carmen]

I seem to resonate with my name, Carmen. The word Carmen, means 'to sing' and I am the only singer in my family. My second name is Louvain, a family name taken from the Battle of Louvain, in Belgium in the first World War. My son, I named Justin, but he never liked his name, and changed it to 'Slim'. I think, one day he will grow to be Justin.

[Virma De Ris]

I've also always thought that my name is not the correct one for me. It used to bother me since I was very little. It kind of angered my mom when I asked her why they gave me that name. Funny thing is that family members used the nickname of Vicky for me which is completely different from my name (Virmaris). I've always felt like my true name is Victoria and I use the nickname of Vicky instead of my name... only people from my childhood call me by my given name. I've gotten so used to Vicky that I sometimes forget to reply when I am being called Virmaris... go figure!

I don't know about you all but I always felt that naming a child after a mother or a father is rather condescending to the child to be, as if that child would not have an identity of their own but just be a spawn of an original entity. I had this argument with my in laws a few months back when my husband and I were deciding the name for our soon to be born baby boy. His name will be completely different from any of our family's names... I feel this is the correct decision for his name and if he doesn't like it we'll ask what he would like us to call him by.

I've made peace with my original name so I kept it but the people that truly know me call me Vicky.

;)

[shadowstalker]

when my husband named our daughter (I never had the right to name our kids) Juliet Nichole, one of his aunts said it was an ugly name , why because we didn't name her after his aunt DORIS

Nichole is the female version of Nicholas ( i gave her that name cuz my husband wanted him to be the godfather, so I reminded we are not religious so why do it) Our friend NIck was a very honest loving person so to honor him I gave her that name, He wasn't religious either.

She just can't handle the Romeo jokes, lol

[tessie999]

HUMMM , wow I have been fortunate I guess. I have always loved my name and it has felt just right for me !

[Unified Serenity]

I was very careful naming my children. You can't rhyme anything with their names, and it just felt right. Well, actually I ran out of girl names and my son named my third daughter, Alyssa, but I gave her the middle name Candace. They each seem to like their names. I of course hated my name though it fit my personality as a child and thus when my step father adopted me at 13, I legally changed it to a name I loved and it also fits me.

[ghostrider]

Years ago I met the manager of the western hemisphere for Barclay's Bank.
His name was George Money....no kidding. the reigonal vp for the company I used to work for was named loyal profit. his real name.

[ghostrider]

when my husband named our daughter (I never had the right to name our kids) Juliet Nichole, one of his aunts said it was an ugly name , why because we didn't name her after his aunt DORIS

Nichole is the female version of Nicholas ( i gave her that name cuz my husband wanted him to be the godfather, so I reminded we are not religious so why do it) Our friend NIck was a very honest loving person so to honor him I gave her that name, He wasn't religious either.

She just can't handle the Romeo jokes, lol my daughter changed her name in her early teen years, out of spite I think her biolocical father is useless to her, she's gonna change it again to my wife's maiden name = Lovejoy. good ol irish name

[DarMar]

well i must say at first thanks for this tread, such various opinions around :)
in my 23th age i just changed my name to darmar and i liked it very much it so resonated with my behaviour that people arround me started to call me in that name forgiving my old name :)
my original name given by my mother is Dario, and how she tells she gave me that name after persian king Darius I .. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Darius_the_Great
Knowing what you telling, i was also very unpleasant with presenting myself as a Dario..simply felt unconfortable and not being me.

as i dont accept ANYONE to rule over me such as goverment, police or any of that stuff i didnt do it "legaly" and didnt asked for acceptance, well i just did it and people arround me accepted me as a darmar :)
and i love people aswell as my name :D

[mariposafe]

I like my given name but have never felt comfortable with my surname, so after many years of intention, in 2005 I finally changed it. Oddly enough, I find it increasingly difficult to identify with either of the surnames, it all seems such an enormous amount of nonsense to me. Fortunately, here in China I'm just known as Philip, or by my self-chosen Chinese name.

[Darla Ken Jensen Pearce]

Some of you who feel your names are all wrong ~ could be remembering a name you were known as in another life. This could make you believe your present name seems all wrong and doesn't sit right in your own mind and heart. The veils are thinning now as never before with rising consciousness. Especially for the younger ones being born ~ if you were able to retain this name memory it would make perfect sense that a new name this time around would feel very odd and unnatural to you.

Once you realize that this is so, it might be easier to look backward and figure out who you were before. Things are open to us now that never were before and this may just be one of them.

I love the word play in how names came about as joked about in this thread, too, but this is a little different than the foreign feeling some of us have about our names. It just could be our past leaking through the thinning veils.

[shadowstalker]

Yes I remember hearing some where that before we are born we tell our folks what to call us, we whisper in there ear our name that we want..

Boy what was going thru my head when I did that to myself.... lol

Where the heck did i find a name like Jurjana

[TelosianEmbrace]

I like my first name, Guy. It is a rare, short name with a lttle bit of class that can be used in a generic sense, like "Hey, you guys" or "I'm just another guy". See?;)
As for my second name Carter it is very basic and would denote a type of job, eg. Hay carter. Indeed, for a while there I was delivery driver, though never truly a 'carter' of anything. Perhaps that simple name has been a part of my finding myself in menial jobs....
I tried changing my name by deed poll to Thor. I reckon that is such a cool, masculine, powerful name. But the people at the office said I had to have two names, which flustered me, standing there in the office and asked to give a second name. I just wanted Thor. So I put a full stop as my second name!:rolleyes: Needless to say, it wasn't after too many attempted explanations that I changed it back again.
One thing I enjoy about the web is your freedom to make your own name wherever you go. You could be...umm.. Jurjana on here, Ana on Project Camelot, or even Autumn Willow Blossom on another site.:wave:

[markpierre]

Hi, all

We've all read stuff about how your name can influence your mind, your path, your everything. When given the right name, everything in your life is just right, and a person with a wrong name always need to experience and suffer a lot to find its right path.

There are some people who have wrong names. And I think my case is quite extreme, so I want to share it here.

Every time when I was introduced with my name, I felt clumsy and didn't know how to behave. Cause when hearing the words "this is xxx", something would always cry from the deep "no, this isn't."

Having a wrong name make me understand perfectly how a name can do things to my life. I can feel myself possessed. It grows and strengthens like a cancer. I can feel every cell of my body filled up with grievance. Above all, my heart feels brutally offended.

I can feel its energy even stronger when I try to live on the right trajectory or to understand my real self. I always try to think of my real name but never succeeded. I like the story of Spirited Away. I find it resonates in me. Yubaba makes her worker hers by taking their names and giving their new names herself. Haku told Chihiro that she must remember her name, or she would be like himself, working for Yubaba forever, because he had forgotten his name and therefore his way home.

That's quite like me and my mother. She's the one who gave me the name, and she has this power over me that I can't surpass.

I don't know when I can find my real name. But now I'm 21, and given the situation here, there's a lot to live on......

Hi, when I read this post I had trouble digesting the idea that anyone could be misnamed. Sorry, that was my reaction, but if I think about it I guess that's reasonable. I don't know anything about that.

But I asked myself what your name should be. I felt very strongly that your correct name was or should be 'Rebirth', which didn't sound like a proper name for a person. Ooh, what is it in Gaelic or some romantic language? So I did what we all do when we want the facts, I looked up the question on the net. It was barely an exercise at all..
Maybe I thought I could bestow you with your new name and you'd like it and everybody would be happy. I could get some credit too.

What I discovered:
After Phoenix, which must still be a popular baby name these days, (I don't like it personally) the second choice that bore the meaning "rebirth" was René, or Renée. or Renee.

I thought I was going to give you this beautiful name. Then I saw the name you sign in with. I had to laugh, so really, you should laugh. Is that your real name? If it's just a 'handle', laugh again.
So I don't know what to say now, I'm all confused.

If that's your name maybe accepting yourself includes accepting whats been given you. If I want to intrude with some kind of dogma, 'what about you could possibly be unacceptable?' That's what being 'reborn' really entails. Accepting everything we've rejected about everything, which is mainly ourselves. The world is reflecting that pretty nicely right now, I've decided that I'm not going to be crapped on any more. So be it!
My name means 'dedicated to Mars'. I haven't worked that one out yet. Maybe someday.
Whoever it seems gives our names to us, I have a feeling we really name ourselves. Hey thats just a hunch. And I'd feel awful if you didn't like that.

But maybe you understood that rebirth might include a bit of discomfort? You're here, rebirth is what you're doing. It makes sense to me. There's a lot of power in that name. I mean a LOT of power. And it's all directed AT the structures we built to keep us asleep.

I hope you have some fun with that.

[Pete]

you know its not just humans, I watched a programme on tv years ago and they were interviewing a lady that was a pet psychic. As a surprise they had got in contact with one of her past clients, Well what I mean they had the dogs owner (doesn't that sound strange, as if you ever own them?) or rather the lady who devoted herself to her wonderful great dane.

The story was they had bought their dog as a puppy and called it something like Rover and the dog was just unmanageable, he never did anything he was asked to and was generally lacklustre. They had heard of the psychic and although she lived in another country had contacted her and agreed to to send a photo.

Long story short, the dog tells her he dislikes the name he has been given and wanted to be called Vernon. So they turned round to Rover and apologised for the name they had given him and called him Vernon for the very first time, He went from laying flat on the floor to sitting alert with his ears pricked and barked his appreciation and became a model citizen from that moment on.

[Lost Soul]

I don't recall the title or the author, but an ex-teacher noticed a pattern and did some research on names. She says she was able to predict a person's behavior based on their given name.

[selinam]

HUMMM , wow I have been fortunate I guess. I have always loved my name and it has felt just right for me !

Yes me too! I have always liked my name :)

[angel in disguise]

I find the ironic names in relation to a persons work quite entertaining as I had a gynecologist named Dr. Poon. I asked him if he was made fun of for that, he said 'Yes, often' and proceeded to tell me that one of his colleagues bought him packages of Tang for his graduation. Certainly had a good giggle at that one ;)

[RMorgan]

I really like my name, Rafael. The problem is that usually, English speakers can´t pronounce it correctly, so it seems weird whenever I go abroad and someone calls me RRRAFAYELLL or RROFOWELL, or RRAAFEALL...So I usually ask people to call me Raf, or RAFA, and that´s ok.

Just in case, my name is pronounced HA-FAH-El (El pronounced like in Elvis). :)

[Tui Allen]

Renne - thanks for introducing me to a new word, "ungooglable". Love it.

[Arrowwind]

I changed my name early on in life but I didn't do it legally. I have a professional name that is requried in my signature for legal reasons and then I have my "real" name, which is Arrowwind.... Arrow for short. Been this way over 35 years now. It costs about 800 dollars to get your name changed is my understanding.

Ive lived in a number of ashrams and you know, the teacher or guru often givens the students new names.. not for me... so I have received it in other forms... like guru' arrow princess.... in other languages. Also my full medicine name which I will not state was was given to me in a sweat lodge by a medicine man. It is the name of my spriit animal that I found on my first spirit walk. I knew deep inside that this animal should also be part of my name. In the ceremony the medicine man said "I am to give a name to someone here and it is XXX
but I don't know who so you must claim it... it was in a dark sweat lodge and there were three others sweeting with us.. so I took my name without hesitancy... so I am of the opinion that we can name ourselves and most effectively and others can see it and respond in like.

[benevolentcrow]

I have never liked my middle name, went so far as to change it when I got married. Since then I have gone back to my original middle name out of respect for my mother who gave it to me. Still don't like it...

[Dawn]

When I was a child we had a pediatrician named Dr. Shot. And that is the one thing I ever remember him doing, giving us all shots followed by a lollipop. How we hated going to see Dr. Shot!

As far as my name goes... it fits. I was named for the beginning of a 'new age' .... Dawn. My last name didn't fit however and so, after a day silent retreat, the urge to have a new name came up. I sat awaiting the name and it suddenly came. My true last name is Beginning. So together I am Dawn Beginning. However this seems a strange name to tell to others, so I usually use it only in signature on non-business documents .... even then I change it to Dawn, always Beginning. It reminds me that every moment is 'new' and that it always will be.

[Wantsthetruth74]

Wow, Who Knew?? Hate my legal given first name also. As soon as I was old enough to have any control over it, I started going by the shorter version of my "way too formal" given name. My mother yelled at us kids 24/7, and when I hear my given first name, all I hear is her yelling. A few people still call me by that, but I rarely see them.

I also do know 2 people that legally changed their names for similar reasons, (abusive people in their lives). Whatever works right??

Cool thread. : )

[Sunlite]

Nearing,

It is not difficult to change your name. It costs $25 and they set up an appointment within a week, you go before a judge alone and are asked if this is the name you want. She stamps the paper work, one sheet you fill out, and then says Good Luck ------ and you leave. Not a big deal at all to have a name that is really you. The Native Americans named their children at birth until they were old enough to name themselves with another name if they wanted to do so...that is freedom.

Sunlite

[Lefty Dave]

Cool thread
This has bothered me all my life
Had my parents went by tradition...I would have been Sanford Atilio Smith...but they chose to name me after step grandad and used my other grandad's nickname...so I ended up David Charles Smith...there are 8 David Smith's in my county alone....!!! Not very special...and on top of that...playing left handed guitar for fifty years drew me the nickname of Lefty...a name I couldn't shake...so I just accepted it...but to this day I'm uncomfortable with David Charles...and nobody ever believes you when you say Smith...!!! LOL

[Mathilde Lares]

I agree with you about it but also I think the same way with our birthday.

[truth4me]

I guess the late great american songwriter/singer Johnny Cash had it right all along.....A boy named Sue.