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raymond
27th August 2011, 16:14
If you know that the free sex movement or even feminism movement was started by the ET controllers overlords for the sake of harvesting sexual energies,

so that more people would have sex and thus provide the ET controllers with these sexual energies..

would you still even think about sex?

stdante
27th August 2011, 16:20
did you choose to think about sex in the first place ? ;)

DoubleHelix
27th August 2011, 16:20
yes !

shadowstalker
27th August 2011, 16:25
YES lol, but they are not the only ones who take from us. the plants and animals do as well once you emanate energies something will always soak it up, even your own kids do it when in the next room especially when love making not just casual sex. So does the partner.

Flash
27th August 2011, 18:24
I am very happy that the restraints on sex have been lift up. Doing sex for duty, as is was in the Catholic religions for example, is dreadful and anti evolution for sure. Making sex without any possibility not to fall pregnant for women is dreadful as well (families of 10-15-20 children from the same mother, this is slavery at its best imho, can you iimagine all your adult life without having your own body for yourself once!). It was a sure way to control the populace.

Making sex with love and enjoyment was the premises for the peace and love movement of the sixties. It worked.

However, sex for duty was a way to control the polulation and control their behavior, making them subservient. With peace and love, free sex that is enjoyable and yet with some love, control is lost.

What would PTB do then to regain control: the opposite, hyper sexualisation of the youth and society at large. There is sex everywhere, sex is denaturalized, you have to see it, do it all the time and if you don't, it is because your are impotent - this is the message that is given to us. Even my teenager has enough of this oversexualisation of everything, she complains about it, and she complains about her friend buying in those behaviors. She has enough of pop music for those reasons, she prefers rock because of less sex in it, can you imagine, rock being overloaded as well, but less than the most popular.

Hypersex, drugs, vaccines, everything to control and make the crow quite down or be so dysfunctional that they cannot harm PTB and free themselves anyhow.

Harvesting energies, may be, controlling, definitely.

Marianne
27th August 2011, 18:47
If you know that the free sex movement or even feminism movement was started by the ET controllers overlords for the sake of harvesting sexual energies,

so that more people would have sex and thus provide the ET controllers with these sexual energies..

would you still even think about sex?

I'll leave the free sex movement alone ... and speak to the feminism movement. You don't think it had anything to do with the fact that women were tired of being treated as second rate citizens?
Or do you think the controllers just noticed that situation and utilized it because it was a volatile issue?
Marianne

Lord Sidious
27th August 2011, 18:54
Free sex movement?
Do they accept recruits?
I should have joined that instead of the army.
I might have still injured my pelvis, but what a way to go! :p

Maia Gabrial
27th August 2011, 19:02
The problem is that there's too much focus on sex....

raymond
27th August 2011, 19:06
If you know that the free sex movement or even feminism movement was started by the ET controllers overlords for the sake of harvesting sexual energies,

so that more people would have sex and thus provide the ET controllers with these sexual energies..

would you still even think about sex?

I'll leave the free sex movement alone ... and speak to the feminism movement. You don't think it had anything to do with the fact that women were tired of being treated as second rate citizens?
Or do you think the controllers just noticed that situation and utilized it because it was a volatile issue?
Marianne

i am all for giving women and minorities equal rights

but the feminist movement was all about the oversexualization of women under the pretense of giving women equal rights

the media was encouraging women to have sex attitudes as liberal as men..

we know that all men are like dogs and animals .. men have sex because of sex itself but women have sex based on feelings..

to encourage women to stoop down to the level of men is basically hurting women's true rights.. which is to keep her spiritual essence pure..

so once women start exposing their skin more, the men being the dogs that they are, will get more and more horny and coupled that with women's more liberal attitudes towards sex, the ET controllers have one hell of a time harvesting sexual energies..

brilliant scheme though.. you gotta appreciate the brilliance of such a scheme

Flash
27th August 2011, 19:08
No Lord Sidious, no injury of the pelvis on the contrary, relaxed and freely moving, muscles untied LOL

May be it is to be tried to repair your broken bones and muscles???? lol


Junebug: would you still even think about sex?
I'll leave the free sex movement alone ... and speak to the feminism movement. You don't think it had anything to do with the fact that women were tired of being treated as second rate citizens?
Or do you think the controllers just noticed that situation and utilized it because it was a volatile issue?
Marianne

Feminism: yes women were tired of having to submit to men's will and being in societies that do not take into account their needs, desires, biology, etc. Tired of not having their work respected (my own mother had to have the signature of my dad for the bank, and when he was not there, she could not change anything, can you imagine how frustrated she was).

On the other hand, by making women work and having them supply often half or more of the family revenue to maintain a decent standard of living, you end up with women too tired to take emotional care of their children and the children pay for it, being alone or in front of the computer or bumming the streets, for lack of emotional support. Taking care of children takes a lot of teime and energy, not only quality time, but plain hours in a day. Women often cannot do it anylonger without being completely immerse in work at work and work at home, nothing left for their own development. They do not have choice, they have now to support financially.

Tell me then, what has changed for women?? Not much. And disrespect of women/girls is still very high with ovesexualisation. Nothing has changed.

The solution, give anybody staying at home raising children a revenue sufficient for survival (men or women). Most mothers/fathers would stay home for a few years, you would end up with women/men getting to develop themselves, not being over tired, and with men/women happy with their happy partner, and with children having more emotional equilibrium.

WhiteFeather
27th August 2011, 19:13
I always paid for my sex. Now its free? Things are looking up. I just knew it. : )~


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kfFTGOEB-5c

Flash
27th August 2011, 19:19
I always paid for my sex. Now its free? Things are looking up. I just knew it. : )~

LOL

this is the perfect example of what we are talking about. Disjunction between sex and human behavior, disjunction from love. PTB is very very happy. Now if free sex, we can control your addiction - and keep taking women/men as sex objects/financial objects when they pay to maintain the household.

Have you heard about the "skirts". Professional women some losers males are chasing in order to ensure their living expenses and more are paid for. Males gold diggers?

. Wow, this was easy, congrats PTB.

I am pulling your leg obviously Whitefeather, for a good laugh.

Vitalux
27th August 2011, 19:25
yes....I have to admit, I certainly am guilty of allowing those Et's to harvest my sexual energy. I think the animals are just as guilty too.
For me, I think it started about 9 years old when I first discovered masturbation.
However, I tend to feel it is a natural and wonderful part of evolution. I would tend to discourage anyone that might feel sex was a shameful behavior.

My guess, most people that feel sex is wrong, probably have cultural issues that they have been indoctrinated with , and further, will grasp onto any straw in which they can justify making it a negative experience for others.

Sex is wonderful.

bennycog
27th August 2011, 19:37
Don't think it is possible to ever stop thinking about sex Raymond :)

DNA
27th August 2011, 19:40
If you know that the free sex movement or even feminism movement was started by the ET controllers overlords for the sake of harvesting sexual energies,

so that more people would have sex and thus provide the ET controllers with these sexual energies..

would you still even think about sex?

I understand that no one reads any more than four to five line thread posts, so I can understand making your statements short and open ended.
But, what aliens are you referring to?
Are you referring to the Annunaki and pointing to gold being symbolism, and the true creation of man was for his "gold" imbued sexual energy?
Or is it another race.
The Gnostic described Archons who look very much like our modern day greys?
Or are you stating that all multidimensional beings who trespass into our realm are aliens and alluding to the mud-shadows discused by Castaneda and reflected in the lore of the middle east in references of the Djinn, a non-organic energy based life form?

Maia Gabrial
27th August 2011, 19:43
So, even if you love sex or have strong feelings against it, the energy-sucking aliens are feeding well either way....

firstlook
27th August 2011, 19:53
The problem is that there's too much focus on sex....

I would disagree. The issue is more acceptance, thus you lesson the urge to over examine the subject.

People are still scared of being around public displays of affection.

There is still alot of fear about how people should express love.

DNA
27th August 2011, 19:55
So, even if you love sex or have strong feelings against it, the energy-sucking aliens are feeding well either way....

It has been presented as such.
Here is a representation of Grey and his wife making love. A very powerfull and energetic depiction.
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-ulhKH5rxZkg/TWYu8G47xaI/AAAAAAAAP8U/c3AD70a4no0/s1600/alexgrey3.jpg

This is what Alex Grey saw while he was chemically imbued and shining his blazingly bright third eye into the ethers.
The name of the painting is "Dieties and Demons drinking from the milky pool". And as the painting suggests, the good dieties participate as well as ones you would consider negative.

http://zaporaclecache.s3.amazonaws.com/wp-content/uploads/52.jpg

christian
27th August 2011, 20:05
May well be that TPTB played a role in propagating promiscuity and sexual indulgence. But it's a two-edged sword. In my case, indulgence lead to over-saturation which lead to the intention to transcend it and I eventually found a way to reverse the sperm flow and use the energy thus preserved, which is a part of what is called inner alchemy in ancient texts. For anyone interested I recommend Mantak Chia's "Tao Yoga of Love". He also wrote a book especially for women. I first got there through ancient Daoistic legends surrounding Huang Di. I also read something about it recently in Melchizedek's "Flower of Life". He claims the Egyptian Ankh symbol represents the energy flow through the body when one transforms and purifies sexual energy through inner alchemy. He also referred to the times of Lemuria and Atlantis, when people consciously handled their sexual energy this way. So it seems, it might have been common through different times and cultures.

Marianne
27th August 2011, 20:10
Raymond and Flash--thanks for your replies. I just wanted to steer the conversation to a woman's point of view. I appreciate everyone's opinions about this--we wil never all agree or feel the same about it, but I can see validity in your words. I do see the negative side of the women's movement, regrettably. I stayed home with my children until they were ready to go to school, then got a job with school hours. We were very poor as a result, in those years, but I would do the same thing again.

I'm not sure I totally believe the harvesting of energy theory--I do think there are circumstances where creepy things can get into a person's energy field, and there are energy vamps around. I deal with it by keeping my vibrations as high as I can. Another word for that is Love. That's my story and I'm stickin' to it.
Thanks for the interesting thread. I bet you will get lots of responses!
Marianne

WhiteFeather
27th August 2011, 20:36
I always paid for my sex. Now its free? Things are looking up. I just knew it. : )~

LOL

this is the perfect example of what we are talking about. Disjunction between sex and human behavior, disjunction from love. PTB is very very happy. Now if free sex, we can control your addiction - and keep taking women/men as sex objects/financial objects when they pay to maintain the household.

Have you heard about the "skirts". Professional women some losers males are chasing in order to ensure their living expenses and more are paid for. Males gold diggers?

. Wow, this was easy, congrats PTB.

I am pulling your leg obviously Whitefeather, for a good laugh.

And I Yours, LMFAO Enjoy the beatles song anyways...... : )~

WhiteFeather
27th August 2011, 20:43
Does Self Masturbation Give The ET's any control of power. Hmmm it is a good question isn't it?. Just thought i'd ask. Hehehehehehe : ) ~
Appreciate your thoughts on this. ASAP Because im feeding off of them as we speak, but not negatively just harvestingly.

christian
27th August 2011, 20:52
Does Self Masturbation Give The ET's any control of power. Hmmm it is a good question isn't it?

It's like asking "is walking this or that?" Depends on the intention when doing so, where you are going, etc... It's all about energy, how do you handle the sexual energy? I figure, when people "throw their sexual energy away", like it is common, it seems like people's attitude towards sex is like a moth burning itself at a lamp time and again, when behaving like this, negative beings can feed off of it. When people cultivate their sexual energy, contain and transform it, they strengthen themselves and make the energy unavailable for possible predators.

Doing inner alchemy instead of throwing the energy away, where predators can pick it up.

Maia Gabrial
27th August 2011, 21:32
I guess I take "displays of affection" to mean things like holding hands, kissing and touching as a way to "express love". NO problem there.... Expressing lust and casual sex is another matter. There's nothing casual about sex to begin with. What people don't realize is that there's more going on than the mere act of satisfying bodily urges. They're connecting on deeper levels of their being; chakra to chakra; spirit to spirit. Why has casual sex been accepted anyway? Animals mate without thought or feelings. Some humans act like animals especially when they take it without asking. Is there any wonder why rape and pedophilia are rampant? IMO, that's one of the biggest results of too much focus on sex....
And you, firstlook, underexamine it. Are you even looking at the bigger picture?
What I meant by "too much focus on sex" is that EVERYTHING in some way or another is connected to sex. Commercials, movies, magazines,
strip clubs, clothing and lingerie, even dirty talk, are all there for the purpose of arousing sex....Whoever is behind all of this knows that men think of sex every 4 minutes and it's exploited. It's become so obvious these days.
Why do people dress up to look foxy or hunky, hang out in bars and use stupid come-ons, or look at pornography? To get lucky later, right? It's EVERYWHERE, my friend. There's a reason for it. IMO, it's being used to lower standards. I've seen society slowly changing over my lifetime. I agree that things were stricter for my generation which I admit could have been lessened alittle; but not as much as it is in your time, firstlook. Many of the crimes today can be attributed to the acceptance of lower standards. In fact, lowered standards on sex probably led to the mess our society is in right now....

DeDukshyn
27th August 2011, 22:04
Since the only type of energy that can be used by dark forces is negative energy, only sexual energy that is negative in form can be an issue: i.e. sex associated with guilt or force. So I say let's all counter balance that with positive sexual energies and starve da bastads ;)

I'm starting tonight ... ;)

Unified Serenity
27th August 2011, 22:05
One of the main reasons women were pushed into the feminism movement was to increase the tax base for the government. It increased the need for more government involvement in lots of areas. I happen to believe children do better in a loving home where the mother does get to stay home or father if that's their wish, but the point is a loving parent is available all during their early years, and as they grow up. This makes for a happier child imho. I know this may really tick off a lot of liberals for my saying this sort of thing, but children do better with their parents around them then strangers who get paid $9.00/hr and who don't have a real stake in that child's developing good character.

TPTB have long wanted the destruction of the family, the destruction of the backbone of society, and the ultimate chaos to ensue from a splintered society not only spiritually, but economically and socially. They are well on their way to succeeding. I in no way have touched on the plethora of issues that the modern western family has had to deal with. The many issues women have had to struggle with, and the ultimate outcome of the decisions made by women to regain their independence from a patriarchal system, and the other issues men face in how to deal with this system or it's impacts on children besides lack of connectedness and growing sociopathic and narcisistic tendencies so prevalent in people today. I just think much of this got started with government wanting a bigger tax base and much happened as well that could be capitalized upon.

Carmen
27th August 2011, 22:09
My daughter is having problems with their male boer goat. He is one stinky, lusty, agressive bastard. Well, I said to her, "he is no different to probably 80% of the males in the world. If he cant eat it, **** it, or fight it, he's not interested!!!". And in FredS's immortal words, in no particular order.:eyebrows: Put it all in perspective for her!!!!

DeDukshyn
27th August 2011, 22:20
I guess I take "displays of affection" to mean things like holding hands, kissing and touching as a way to "express love". NO problem there.... Expressing lust and casual sex is another matter. There's nothing casual about sex to begin with. What people don't realize is that there's more going on than the mere act of satisfying bodily urges. They're connecting on deeper levels of their being; chakra to chakra; spirit to spirit. Why has casual sex been accepted anyway? Animals mate without thought or feelings. Some humans act like animals especially when they take it without asking. Is there any wonder why rape and pedophilia are rampant? IMO, that's one of the biggest results of too much focus on sex....
And you, firstlook, underexamine it. Are you even looking at the bigger picture?
What I meant by "too much focus on sex" is that EVERYTHING in some way or another is connected to sex. Commercials, movies, magazines,
strip clubs, clothing and lingerie, even dirty talk, are all there for the purpose of arousing sex....Whoever is behind all of this knows that men think of sex every 4 minutes and it's exploited. It's become so obvious these days.
Why do people dress up to look foxy or hunky, hang out in bars and use stupid come-ons, or look at pornography? To get lucky later, right? It's EVERYWHERE, my friend. There's a reason for it. IMO, it's being used to lower standards. I've seen society slowly changing over my lifetime. I agree that things were stricter for my generation which I admit could have been lessened alittle; but not as much as it is in your time, firstlook. Many of the crimes today can be attributed to the acceptance of lower standards. In fact, lowered standards on sex probably led to the mess our society is in right now....

As brilliant as I think you are Maia, I believe the opposite is true. The shaming of sex as an "evil" or a "privilege of a select few in a select few circumstance based on some "reason" from not the present moment" has caused all the problems. I will cite forced abstinence of catholic priests who are some of the worst offenders as my evidence.

The guilt and shame associated with sex (which often comes with gratuitous over indulgence of sex) is the true issue, not sex itself. Sex is natural, the guilt and shame and judgements created by the ego about sex is not. Just my 2 cents ;)

Omni
27th August 2011, 22:23
I don't think they need to start anything to harvest sexual energy, plenty of it around regardless.... Like the last topic like this, I'm not convinced ETs are harvesting sexual energy. And I surely do not believe that the feminist movement was started by ETs to harvest sexual energy... That does not make sense at all to me.

Is there any evidence for this? I'm not saying it doesn't exist,... Just personally I'd need some evidence to believe it. It paints a dark picture of the universe. As if there was no order in the ET realms, and they are full of dark beings. Sounds like manipulation and a psy op to me... But that's just my initial assessment.

A universal theme as far as I'm aware is balance. I reject a reality where the conspiracy is universe wide and it's all about harvesting us 'slaves/pawns/animals' energy. I think the universe is more beautiful, and meaningful than that. I could be wrong...

There are certainly dark forces on planet earth. However I think they are mis-identified frequently. Just MHO. I'm not saying I'm right...

Maia Gabrial
27th August 2011, 22:34
Here's what could happen when you masturbate. They could suck the energies from you as you're doing it. And then you won't be able to climax. That would be stealing alittle too much from you, wouldn't it?

Vitalux
27th August 2011, 22:38
Why has casual sex been accepted anyway? Is there any wonder why rape and pedophilia are rampant? IMO, that's one of the biggest results of too much focus on sex....

Many of the crimes today can be attributed to the acceptance of lower standards. In fact, lowered standards on sex probably led to the mess our society is in right now....

We are all entitled to our opinions.

However, I am sure that many would tend to disagree with such a drawn conclusion.

I personally know many women that enjoy recreational sex with a multitude of partners.

Who really has the right to judge others on how they choose to naturally pleasure themselves.
Its a personal choice, not a condemnation of others that don't share our thoughts or lifestyles. What consenting adults wish to do all boils down to a matter of personal choice.

I am sure that you too drop your bloomers from time to time..when alone and for-take in the forbidden pleasure of self indulgence of masturbation.
http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcReyfYv2M4c0ZTayLMuoS4qDJwzi917x CTxR756vHcuDgaZW-L8
I don't believe, ....it will turn you into a rapist or pedophile.

raymond
27th August 2011, 22:46
yes....I have to admit, I certainly am guilty of allowing those Et's to harvest my sexual energy. I think the animals are just as guilty too.
For me, I think it started about 9 years old when I first discovered masturbation.
However, I tend to feel it is a natural and wonderful part of evolution. I would tend to discourage anyone that might feel sex was a shameful behavior.

My guess, most people that feel sex is wrong, probably have cultural issues that they have been indoctrinated with , and further, will grasp onto any straw in which they can justify making it a negative experience for others.

Sex is wonderful.

sex might be wonderful under the right circumstances, the obsession with sex is not

sex and sexual energies are supposed to be used to further one's spiritual cultivation but too many males and females carelessly waste their life-energies away in mindless fornication

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Don't think it is possible to ever stop thinking about sex Raymond :)

Yes I don't think it is possible for you to stop thinking about sex because you are too weak-minded like the majority of the males out there.

See some cleavage, see some ass and legs and your brain gets taken over.

You tell me, if this is not hijacking of your consciousness, what is it?

Luckily, there are teachings out there who can teach one to defend one's consciousness and control one's mind.

=[Post Update]=


So, even if you love sex or have strong feelings against it, the energy-sucking aliens are feeding well either way....

you can limit their power over your consciousness.. this is the key issue..

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The problem is that there's too much focus on sex....

I would disagree. The issue is more acceptance, thus you lesson the urge to over examine the subject.

People are still scared of being around public displays of affection.

There is still alot of fear about how people should express love.

love and sex are two totally different things..

i don't see any love involved when the media unceasingly portray women as sex objects

raymond
27th August 2011, 22:54
I guess I take "displays of affection" to mean things like holding hands, kissing and touching as a way to "express love". NO problem there.... Expressing lust and casual sex is another matter. There's nothing casual about sex to begin with. What people don't realize is that there's more going on than the mere act of satisfying bodily urges. They're connecting on deeper levels of their being; chakra to chakra; spirit to spirit. Why has casual sex been accepted anyway? Animals mate without thought or feelings. Some humans act like animals especially when they take it without asking. Is there any wonder why rape and pedophilia are rampant? IMO, that's one of the biggest results of too much focus on sex....
And you, firstlook, underexamine it. Are you even looking at the bigger picture?
What I meant by "too much focus on sex" is that EVERYTHING in some way or another is connected to sex. Commercials, movies, magazines,
strip clubs, clothing and lingerie, even dirty talk, are all there for the purpose of arousing sex....Whoever is behind all of this knows that men think of sex every 4 minutes and it's exploited. It's become so obvious these days.
Why do people dress up to look foxy or hunky, hang out in bars and use stupid come-ons, or look at pornography? To get lucky later, right? It's EVERYWHERE, my friend. There's a reason for it. IMO, it's being used to lower standards. I've seen society slowly changing over my lifetime. I agree that things were stricter for my generation which I admit could have been lessened alittle; but not as much as it is in your time, firstlook. Many of the crimes today can be attributed to the acceptance of lower standards. In fact, lowered standards on sex probably led to the mess our society is in right now....

As brilliant as I think you are Maia, I believe the opposite is true. The shaming of sex as an "evil" or a "privilege of a select few in a select few circumstance based on some "reason" from not the present moment" has caused all the problems. I will cite forced abstinence of catholic priests who are some of the worst offenders as my evidence.

The guilt and shame associated with sex (which often comes with gratuitous over indulgence of sex) is the true issue, not sex itself. Sex is natural, the guilt and shame and judgements created by the ego about sex is not. Just my 2 cents ;)

LOL.. both the sex itself and the feelings of guilt and shame are the problems..

firstly, the desires of sex are propogated in a human being by ET controllers.. the human being than engage in such sexual acts..

then the ET controllers introduce the feelings of guilt and shame over the satisfaction of the sexual acts..

if two humans truly love each other and make out, there wouldn't be any feelings of guilt or shame whatsoever..

the problem is that most relationships today ain't based on love.. it is based on sex, security, breeding, social recognition and money.. that's what it is... most people think it is love but it ain't..

Omni
27th August 2011, 22:55
Yes I don't think it is possible for you to stop thinking about sex because you are too weak-minded like the majority of the males out there.

Sex is needed for the survival of humans, unless we want to go down the clone and babies in test tubes route. Just like anything it's been twisted and bastardized in our society. However calling a male weak minded for being attracted to a female body, is hardly fair or rational IMO.

It is not weak mindedness that leads us to be attracted to the opposite sex(or same sex if that's your thing). It's nature, and DNA, etc. If it wasn't that way, we would not exist!!! So here to 'weak mindedness' being partly responsible for our survival.... O.o

Focusing too much on sex can be bad. But when I see a sexy female, I don't think it's weak mindedness causing such a reaction... It's called being a heterosexual male. And without it you wouldn't exist...



firstly, the desires of sex are propogated in a human being by ET controllers.. the human being than engage in such sexual acts..


Sorry but this is pure delusion IMO. Sex is a part of nature. If we did not have the desires for sex, we would not exist IMO.

Take a look around the entire planet and animal kingdom. Almost all of it involves sex. Sex drive is a pivotal part of survival for most species that practice it...

Curt
27th August 2011, 22:58
Here is what Aaron Russo had to say about who was behind the Women's Liberation movement. (Or, at least, what he says Nick Rockefeller told him.)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lhJCTFZf03A

Vitalux
27th August 2011, 23:00
[QUOTE=gary-arsenault;294355]yes....I have to admit, I certainly am guilty of allowing those Et's to harvest my sexual energy. I think the animals are just as guilty too.
For me, I think it started about 9 years old when I first discovered masturbation.
However, I tend to feel it is a natural and wonderful part of evolution. I would tend to discourage anyone that might feel sex was a shameful behavior.

My guess, most people that feel sex is wrong, probably have cultural issues that they have been indoctrinated with , and further, will grasp onto any straw in which they can justify making it a negative experience for others.

Sex is wonderful.




sex might be wonderful under the right circumstances, the obsession with sex is not

sex and sexual energies are supposed to be used to further one's spiritual cultivation but too many males and females carelessly waste their life-energies away in mindless fornication[COLOR="red"]


raymond.....and just where are we going to draw the line on where the obsession of sex is?

Who shall be the judge?

You? A Catholic Priest? A Muslim Priest? Islamic Priest?

enfoldedblue
27th August 2011, 23:03
Sexual energy is the most powerful energy there is. It is the force of creation. It is the sacred point where the animal part of us can meet the divine. Deep in our past, when we were free of today's sexual distortion sex was seen as the most sacred act.

By making this sex a sin the PTB sealed off an important doorway that allowed us access to deep realms. We began to fear our animalistc sexual qualities, as we were told they were 'bad', depraved etc. This fear acted to distort our sexual energy...instead of being able to completely loose oneself in the experience, expressing our wild, passionate, curious nature with a sense of freedom and innocence, we became burdened with guilt and shame.

I believe at some level most of us 'remember' the divine connection that sex allowed us to achieve, which is why we all chase it. But because we have so internalized the message to fear our beastial nature, our wild self, sex in our society as become often shallow, empty, perverted, and often a bit sad.

I believe that healing our sexual selves is an important part of reclaiming our power.

LOVE ALLways, c

raymond
27th August 2011, 23:04
Why has casual sex been accepted anyway? Is there any wonder why rape and pedophilia are rampant? IMO, that's one of the biggest results of too much focus on sex....

Many of the crimes today can be attributed to the acceptance of lower standards. In fact, lowered standards on sex probably led to the mess our society is in right now....

We are all entitled to our opinions.

However, I am sure that many would tend to disagree with such a drawn conclusion.

I personally know many women that enjoy recreational sex with a multitude of partners.

Who really has the right to judge others on how they choose to naturally pleasure themselves.
Its a personal choice, not a condemnation of others that don't share our thoughts or lifestyles. What consenting adults wish to do all boils down to a matter of personal choice.

I am sure that you too drop your bloomers from time to time..when alone and for-take in the forbidden pleasure of self indulgence of masturbation.
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I don't believe, ....it wont turn you into a rapist or pedophile.

I personally know many women that enjoy recreational sex with a multitude of partners.

Men are already like dogs. When the women of this world lower themselves to be like men, then the world will go to ****s.

Ages ago, women stand higher than men because women possess higher emotional potential and are more connected to the spiritual because women are more right-brain than men.

Men are considered to be lower creatures who can only think with their left-brain faculties.

This is why the ET controllers first put men in power and propogated the abuse of women over the last few thousand years.

Because when you place the lower humans in positions of authority, then potential of the higher humans will be suppressed.

Then when the mayan calender approaches, they lift the leash off the abuse of women and encourage women to be just as low as the men.

Feminism has never been about granting women rights. If it is, then why aren't more women holding positions of power in politics today?

Most presidents and prime ministers are still men. Most CEOs of the biggest MNCs are still men.

Hell, it seems that the only way for any indivdual to rise up the ladder is for him or her to cast aside the womanly feelings of kindness and compassion and trample on the rest of humanity.

So when women lower themselves to breeding like men and dogs instead of making out with the one whom they love, then the whole world turn into one whole big sexual energy farm.

Congratulations, humanity. You all sure know how to **** up this world.

raymond
27th August 2011, 23:18
Yes I don't think it is possible for you to stop thinking about sex because you are too weak-minded like the majority of the males out there.

Sex is needed for the survival of humans, unless we want to go down the clone and babies in test tubes route. Just like anything it's been twisted and bastardized in our society. However calling a male weak minded for being attracted to a female body, is hardly fair or rational IMO.

It is not weak mindedness that leads us to be attracted to the opposite sex(or same sex if that's your thing). It's nature, and DNA, etc. If it wasn't that way, we would not exist!!! So here to 'weak mindedness' being partly responsible for our survival.... O.o

Focusing too much on sex can be bad. But when I see a sexy female, I don't think it's weak mindedness causing such a reaction... It's called being a heterosexual male. And without it you wouldn't exist...



firstly, the desires of sex are propogated in a human being by ET controllers.. the human being than engage in such sexual acts..


Sorry but this is pure delusion IMO. Sex is a part of nature. If we did not have the desires for sex, we would not exist IMO.

Take a look around the entire planet and animal kingdom. Almost all of it involves sex. Sex drive is a pivotal part of survival for most species that practice it...

Humans are not animals. Humans have the potential to become more than humans. Humans have the potential to become gods.

So the only way for the ET controllers to distract humans from the omnipotent destiny of becoming gods is through using sex.

When humans get too busy hunting and gathering resources to build a home and attract mates so they can start families, their energies and time will be diverted away from spritual cultivation.

Furthermore by using sex as a distraction, the ET controllers guaranteed themselves a stream of passive income. Which means that left to their own devices, humans will continue to breed more humans without any additional incentives and motivation.

Unless you have trained your mind to a very high degree, then sexual desires will be propogated in your consciousness by ET controllers which will cause you to want to breed like animals.

Even this thinking that "humans need sex to survive" is a line of thought introduced into your consciousness via the media/ET controllers so that the world will continue to produce more humans.

BTw, I will rather not exist in this world. I really wish my parents had not produced me causing me to suffer in this hell-hole of ignorance and sin.

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[QUOTE=gary-arsenault;294355]yes....I have to admit, I certainly am guilty of allowing those Et's to harvest my sexual energy. I think the animals are just as guilty too.
For me, I think it started about 9 years old when I first discovered masturbation.
However, I tend to feel it is a natural and wonderful part of evolution. I would tend to discourage anyone that might feel sex was a shameful behavior.

My guess, most people that feel sex is wrong, probably have cultural issues that they have been indoctrinated with , and further, will grasp onto any straw in which they can justify making it a negative experience for others.

Sex is wonderful.




sex might be wonderful under the right circumstances, the obsession with sex is not

sex and sexual energies are supposed to be used to further one's spiritual cultivation but too many males and females carelessly waste their life-energies away in mindless fornication[COLOR="red"]


raymond.....and just where are we going to draw the line on where the obsession of sex is?

Who shall be the judge?

You? A Catholic Priest? A Muslim Priest? Islamic Priest?

Your Higher Self be the judge of your own actions.

raymond
27th August 2011, 23:22
Sexual energy is the most powerful energy there is. It is the force of creation. It is the sacred point where the animal part of us can meet the divine. Deep in our past, when we were free of today's sexual distortion sex was seen as the most sacred act.

By making this sex a sin the PTB sealed off an important doorway that allowed us access to deep realms. We began to fear our animalistc sexual qualities, as we were told they were 'bad', depraved etc. This fear acted to distort our sexual energy...instead of being able to completely loose oneself in the experience, expressing our wild, passionate, curious nature with a sense of freedom and innocence, we became burdened with guilt and shame.

I believe at some level most of us 'remember' the divine connection that sex allowed us to achieve, which is why we all chase it. But because we have so internalized the message to fear our beastial nature, our wild self, sex in our society as become often shallow, empty, perverted, and often a bit sad.

I believe that healing our sexual selves is an important part of reclaiming our power.

LOVE ALLways, c

Sexual Energies are used to communicate with and interact with the divine.

The feeling of ecstasy is akin to the feeling when you have merged yourself with the ALL-Divine.

This feeling of bliss is recreated permanently sometimes when one does kundalini meditation on the pineal gland.

Sexual Energies are used to activate the Pineal Gland and thus the ET controllers would want such sexual energies to be dissipated through mindless fornication.

Maia Gabrial
27th August 2011, 23:27
I can't agree with you, DeDukshyn. Sex itself is not the problem. It's what happens inside each couple that I'm talking about. In the case of Catholic priests, they shouldn't make vows they can't keep. I agree they're reprehensible....

What I said earlier about there being more involved with sex is what people haven't been taught. Know why it hurts to break up with someone? Because you are connected from chakra to chakra. When people break up they are, in essence, severing as in RIPPING the connections to their chakras. It damages the chakras. And even a one night stand is doing the same thing.

Imitation is the highest form of flattery. We're imitating our Creator, by using our bodies to procreate something. It may not always be another lifeform created. It could be part of something even greater that we add to with our sexual energies.... I believe that humanity has cheapened the sacred act, but not without influence from people like the illuminati who have their tentacles in every aspect of human life.... I'm not saying "DON'T HAVE SEX!" It means take the time to create a sacred union with your partner. Animals breed instinctually to reproduce their species. Humans are supposed to make love with their bodies as they continue their races. When spirit is involved in the act, it'll become more gratifying than "Wam-bam, I'm satisfied. On to the next one...."

I wasn't attempting to make anyone feel guilty or shamed for liking sex. Even I love what my body felt like when my late husband and I made love.
IMO, humanity has lost alot when they lost the memory of their divine sovereignty....
And that's my nickel's worth...

firstlook
27th August 2011, 23:30
I guess I take "displays of affection" to mean things like holding hands, kissing and touching as a way to "express love". NO problem there.... Expressing lust and casual sex is another matter. There's nothing casual about sex to begin with. What people don't realize is that there's more going on than the mere act of satisfying bodily urges. They're connecting on deeper levels of their being; chakra to chakra; spirit to spirit. Why has casual sex been accepted anyway? Animals mate without thought or feelings. Some humans act like animals especially when they take it without asking. Is there any wonder why rape and pedophilia are rampant? IMO, that's one of the biggest results of too much focus on sex....
And you, firstlook, underexamine it. Are you even looking at the bigger picture?
What I meant by "too much focus on sex" is that EVERYTHING in some way or another is connected to sex. Commercials, movies, magazines,
strip clubs, clothing and lingerie, even dirty talk, are all there for the purpose of arousing sex....Whoever is behind all of this knows that men think of sex every 4 minutes and it's exploited. It's become so obvious these days.
Why do people dress up to look foxy or hunky, hang out in bars and use stupid come-ons, or look at pornography? To get lucky later, right? It's EVERYWHERE, my friend. There's a reason for it. IMO, it's being used to lower standards. I've seen society slowly changing over my lifetime. I agree that things were stricter for my generation which I admit could have been lessened alittle; but not as much as it is in your time, firstlook. Many of the crimes today can be attributed to the acceptance of lower standards. In fact, lowered standards on sex probably led to the mess our society is in right now....

Focus is the context that needs discussion. What your talking about is lust and desire. Focus has nothing to do with those things. But the issue is why do people lust for each other?

I understand what your saying when you talk about it being everywhere. Its not something you can "get rid of". It has to be "replaced" with genuine love which is selfless.

I dont know why you think I have under-examined the topic, I just dont want to point out the same thing everyone else notices. We all know Lust in some form or another and that it is the governing system in most structures in society whether it be over people or material objects. In the end you dont make people feel guilty for wanting, you create the communication that its OK to be vulnerable and thats where love sperms :p from.

Hope you dont see me as some sexual predator. At worst I'm just a sympathizer.

Peace :)

Maia Gabrial
27th August 2011, 23:35
Nope, firstlook. I see you as an immortal brother sharing this journey through life with me. I value your opinions. And I just wanted to clarify my own. These eyes have seen alot....God, did I just say that?
If you ever get a chance to study Tantric Sex, go for it. It'll blow your mind!

Vitalux
27th August 2011, 23:36
Your Higher Self be the judge of your own actions.

Great! well if that is the case, why is your "Higher Self" feeling the need to condemn the rest of society who fail to measure up to your "Higher Self".

Would you think it might be a problem to exist in a world where everyone went around trying to enforce their beliefs or morals on everyone else?

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EC1000
28th August 2011, 00:02
I thought the feminism movement was started as a a way for the PTB to keep both parents away from their children rather than just the dads, and also as a means to tax an even greater portion of the population.

As far as sex, i dunno, seems pretty natural to me to have a healthy interest in it-maybe they got to me!!

Omni
28th August 2011, 00:06
Humans are not animals.
We are animals IMO. Just ones with a so called higher intelligence. We are part of the animal kingdom. Animals have souls too IMO.


Humans have the potential to become more than humans. Humans have the potential to become gods.
And animals(some of them) have the potential to become like humans, and essentially become gods too. Will just take time :p



So the only way for the ET controllers to distract humans from the omnipotent destiny of becoming gods is through using sex.

The only way? There are so many ways to distract humans from their full potential. Sorry but you are speaking nonsense IMO.


Even this thinking that "humans need sex to survive" is a line of thought introduced into your consciousness via the media/ET controllers so that the world will continue to produce more humans.

Total nonsense. I'm about done with this thread.

However I will ask you to provide the evidence you have seen that makes you think sex drive is an ET manipulation, and not just a facet of nature to continue life.

What you are saying is every mammal on the planet has a sex drive, not to survive or procreate(nah THAT would be crazy :rolleyes:), but so some monstrous conspiracy of ETs can subvert us from our true potential and feed off our energy. That they are even mind controlling animals to have this sex drive.

So every person on the planet is mind controlled since puberty or so to have a sex drive...

..... Sry if i am easily annoyed right now. Im starving and havent eaten all day. Going to go fix that now... peace

Maia Gabrial
28th August 2011, 00:08
It's still about EQUALITY of the genders, regardless of what the Rockefellers (there's that evil name again) said. It's not muscle for muscle equality. Each gender has its strengths and weaknesses. But they're still equal because both bodies house the same immortal spirit. Hey, the same spirit can be male or female body in any lifetime. When will everybody realize that knowledge? Forgive me, I know I'm talking to the choir on this....

The Rockefellers have nothing to boast about because they're the ones who've helped tear apart the Unit of Families in other ways than just this feminist movement. Actually, I think they debauched both. Ruined both.

Regarding women, it wasn't too much to ask to be considered equal, was it? That didn't mean disrespect them for trying to get this for all women. That wasn't supposed to make men less. Thank you, Rockefeller for messing up an important movement...again.

Women have been debased for thousands of years. So, it's about time that times are a-changing. And if we all catch onto what creeps like Rockefellers and Rothschilds are doing, we'll be able to overcome their evil influences and have it all: Love, life, loving families, paradise on Earth....

Maia Gabrial
28th August 2011, 00:18
This has nothing to do with the Higher Self saying it, Gary. It's humanity's lower self imposing itself on others....

Sierra
28th August 2011, 00:25
<snip>....Whoever is behind all of this knows that men think of sex every 4 minutes and it's exploited. It's become so obvious these days.
Why do people dress up to look foxy or hunky, hang out in bars and use stupid come-ons, or look at pornography? To get lucky later, right? It's EVERYWHERE, my friend. There's a reason for it. IMO, it's being used to lower standards. I've seen society slowly changing over my lifetime. I agree that things were stricter for my generation which I admit could have been lessened alittle; but not as much as it is in your time, firstlook. Many of the crimes today can be attributed to the acceptance of lower standards. In fact, lowered standards on sex probably led to the mess our society is in right now....

As brilliant as I think you are Maia, I believe the opposite is true. The shaming of sex as an "evil" or a "privilege of a select few in a select few circumstance based on some "reason" from not the present moment" has caused all the problems. I will cite forced abstinence of catholic priests who are some of the worst offenders as my evidence.

The guilt and shame associated with sex (which often comes with gratuitous over indulgence of sex) is the true issue, not sex itself. Sex is natural, the guilt and shame and judgements created by the ego about sex is not. Just my 2 cents ;)

Way behind on the thread here but I just had to say, I think you are both right. How it works out depends on individual and cultural consciousness. Some karma the battlefield ... and some karma the bedroom. After reading the circumcision discussion thread, I wonder if there is a connection. Well of course there is a connection ...

Sierra

christian
28th August 2011, 00:25
Sex is a mystical, powerful, momentous issue.

Thus it should be handled with responsibility and humility.

Both trivializing and condemning it surely will be painful eventually.

This is about transcending sex, about cultivating it. It's full of magical potential and benefits for humanity, if humanity will only take advantage of it.

Tantric sex was mentioned, I referred to Daoistic, Egyptian, Lemurian and Atlantean lore before. These days, you sometimes come across the term of men being "multiorgasmic". The main issue there is to reverse the sperm flow and let me add the caveat: It's very enjoyable. Women are sexually infinetely stronger than men obviously, their ability to receive a man is obviously much greater than man's ability to unite with women. That is because of man's current mishandling of his sexual energies, throwing them away in the act of ejaculation instead of refining them within the body, whereby he greatly increases his potency, but don't take it lightly, it's a very delicate thing to learn, it's not holding back but indeed doing inner alchemy. At the end of the day there is much to know and learn for men and women, when it comes to the benefits of sexual intercourse.

Sierra
28th August 2011, 00:50
<snip>
When spirit is involved in the act, it'll become more gratifying than "Wam-bam, I'm satisfied. On to the next one...."

I wasn't attempting to make anyone feel guilty or shamed for liking sex. Even I love what my body felt like when my late husband and I made love.
IMO, humanity has lost alot when they lost the memory of their divine sovereignty....
And that's my nickel's worth...

Maia, I admire your guts for what you post.

Just wanted to say, my husband will no longer make love to me unless I'm turned on, no fun unless I'm right there with him. Twenty-three years of marriage, it doesn't seem like our sex/love/fusion life is ever going to stop changing, growing... It is amazing. I don't know if it is physical as in comfortable as an old shoe, spiritual or body intelligence at work here ... Oh well. I like to understand relationships and at the end of it all, sex is a relationship, You, Me, the Divine.

Curt
28th August 2011, 01:43
It's still about EQUALITY of the genders, regardless of what the Rockefellers (there's that evil name again) said. It's not muscle for muscle equality. Each gender has its strengths and weaknesses. But they're still equal because both bodies house the same immortal spirit. Hey, the same spirit can be male or female body in any lifetime. When will everybody realize that knowledge? Forgive me, I know I'm talking to the choir on this....

The Rockefellers have nothing to boast about because they're the ones who've helped tear apart the Unit of Families in other ways than just this feminist movement. Actually, I think they debauched both. Ruined both.

Regarding women, it wasn't too much to ask to be considered equal, was it? That didn't mean disrespect them for trying to get this for all women. That wasn't supposed to make men less. Thank you, Rockefeller for messing up an important movement...again.

Women have been debased for thousands of years. So, it's about time that times are a-changing. And if we all catch onto what creeps like Rockefellers and Rothschilds are doing, we'll be able to overcome their evil influences and have it all: Love, life, loving families, paradise on Earth....

I totally agree, for what it's worth. Rockefeller et al no doubt had nefarious reasons for funding woman's lib, (as Russo said in the clip above) but that doesn't negate the entire movement. It doesn't erase all the good work that was done by real people to try to bring equality...The PTB may have financed this movement, and others like it, but they don't own it. If we were to cede every bit of progress we've made as a species that some corrupt oligarch had a hand in creating we'd be left with very little. Better to toss the bathwater and keep the baby.

D-Day
28th August 2011, 02:22
Free sex movement?
Do they accept recruits?
I should have joined that instead of the army.
I might have still injured my pelvis, but what a way to go! :p

LMAO

You nugget, that's pure gold!

mosquito
28th August 2011, 03:57
Does Self Masturbation Give The ET's any control of power. Hmmm it is a good question isn't it?

It's like asking "is walking this or that?" Depends on the intention when doing so, where you are going, etc... It's all about energy, how do you handle the sexual energy? I figure, when people "throw their sexual energy away", like it is common, it seems like people's attitude towards sex is like a moth burning itself at a lamp time and again, when behaving like this, negative beings can feed off of it. When people cultivate their sexual energy, contain and transform it, they strengthen themselves and make the energy unavailable for possible predators.

Doing inner alchemy instead of throwing the energy away, where predators can pick it up.

Absolutely right - it's all about intention.
As someone who's experienced Daoist sexual practices and been in a spiritual, sexually alchemical relationship I can say with total certainty that when you make love (not f*ck, there's a huge difference) with the right intention, not only is it an unbelievably exquisite experience, but there is NO loss of energy, no nasty aliens feeding off you. If anything, I imagine the angels sing with joy when 2 people have a proper orgasm (not just "come").
Likewise with masturbation, if you do it with the sole intent of flushing your prostate gland and chucking your energy away, it leaves you feeling depleted. Do it as an act of love however, and the results are different. I've even used love-making and masturbation as remote healing methods, SUCCESSFULLY !

If sex, with or without a partner, leaves you feeling drained, then you need to examine your motivation. If on the other hand it leaves you with a sense of peace and love, then it should be fairly bloody obvious that there aren't any "negative ETs" feeding off you.

Sexuality is one of our greatest and most beautiful gifts, our sexual energy is the means by which spirit manifests in our bodies. Sexual practices have long been demonised by those who wish to control us, be they religious or secular powers. I'm heartily sick and tired of people trying to make out that sex is bad, negative, low-vibration or any other such nonsense. It's wonderful, and it's our right to enjoy it, and to bring pleasure to our partners, whoever they may be.

Maia Gabrial
28th August 2011, 04:16
Since Gary A has so kindly provided the forum with a picture of a female masturbating, why doesn't he post one of a male doing it? I mean, for the pleasure of all of us, females in the forum...

Vitalux
28th August 2011, 05:11
Since Gary A has so kindly provided the forum with a picture of a female masturbating, why doesn't he post one of a male doing it? I mean, for the pleasure of all of us, females in the forum...

I am sorry Maia, my goal here is not intended to provide you with visual sexual images to aid with your masturbation.

Perception and reality ... I used that image as an aid to demonstrate my point.
Some would feel a pang of fear and would be repulsed at the sight of the pure human form and relate it to sex.
Others would just see it for what it was, beautiful, a partial view of natural woman.

Because this thread deals with sexuality, and because we are all mature adults here, the image inferred which helped illustrate that most, if not all, people masturbate.
There is no direct evidence in the image of masturbation.


Because I was responding to your statements, I used that image to illustrate women, just as well as men, engage in casual sex and/or masturbation.
In your prior post, you stated;


Why has casual sex been accepted anyway? Is there any wonder why rape and pedophilia are rampant? IMO, that's one of the biggest results of too much focus on sex....

Many of the crimes today can be attributed to the acceptance of lower standards. In fact, lowered standards on sex probably led to the mess our society is in right now....


We all possess some degree of perversion.
Some are just better at coming to terms with it more than others.


We all view reality differently.
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Lord Sidious
28th August 2011, 06:02
Sexual energy is the most powerful energy there is. It is the force of creation. It is the sacred point where the animal part of us can meet the divine. Deep in our past, when we were free of today's sexual distortion sex was seen as the most sacred act.

By making this sex a sin the PTB sealed off an important doorway that allowed us access to deep realms. We began to fear our animalistc sexual qualities, as we were told they were 'bad', depraved etc. This fear acted to distort our sexual energy...instead of being able to completely loose oneself in the experience, expressing our wild, passionate, curious nature with a sense of freedom and innocence, we became burdened with guilt and shame.

I believe at some level most of us 'remember' the divine connection that sex allowed us to achieve, which is why we all chase it. But because we have so internalized the message to fear our beastial nature, our wild self, sex in our society as become often shallow, empty, perverted, and often a bit sad.

I believe that healing our sexual selves is an important part of reclaiming our power.

LOVE ALLways, c

Excellent post, I agree totally and as I said in another thread, when you make love with someone, your consciousness merges with theirs.
We aren't designed to merge with heaps of people, just our mate.
People don't even know who they are anymore and they go and merge with heaps of people, thereby increasing the problem.
Our mate should be sacred to us as is the energy that comes from making love with that mate.

Tane Mahuta
28th August 2011, 06:23
If you know that the free sex movement or even feminism movement was started by the ET controllers overlords for the sake of harvesting sexual energies,

so that more people would have sex and thus provide the ET controllers with these sexual energies..

would you still even think about sex?

Yes I did Gov"

Carmen
28th August 2011, 06:24
I approach this thread tentatively as it always pains me to hear people talking about sex as if its recreational pastime, or women as a commodity. I have other life memories of terrible abuse and this lifetime is a time of healing of those memories, those attitudes. We are energy beings and the seven seals in our bodies represents seven levels of energy and consciousness.

Men are naturally very sexual and I think for most men it is a challenge to express sexual loving energy through the higher centres. For women, it is easier because even in an unawakened state they express sexuality through the third seal which is the power centre. As someone else mentioned on this thread, religion suppressed women because they feared the power that women had over men through sexual energy. What was it? something about 'tempting the heart of an honest man"

Energy is energy and it is never static. It either goes up or down. The down is very dark indeed as can be seen in some of the sick behaviour of people with a collapsing consciousness. The up is the experience of full bodied loving energy that is ecstasy. Of course the Ptb have concentrated our minds on the lowest of the low through tv images and degrading movies. To go upward in a spiritual loving relationship, frees us from their influence.

Tane Mahuta
28th August 2011, 06:24
did you choose to think about sex in the first place ? ;)

Yes I did Too!!

Ok folks here's my take
(good post Raymond)


"I've been through a lot of forests & cultivated a few gardens....in my time!
In my time I chose 1 tree(& 1 tree only).....
My partner & I hope we will be around to our trees grow up & stand on their own...
The sexual energy has somewhat waned ...in our time....but the Love...is still there.."

Sex movement started by the ET - It does not bother me(therefore it does not effect me).

For the purpose of harvesting sexual energy - They cannot harvest sexual energy
without my consent(which I will not allow).

we are all fixated about the details ...instead of looking at the big picture.

"We Are All Here for a Reason - To experience Love & Fear!"

nuff said

TM

christian
28th August 2011, 09:08
Since the only type of energy that can be used by dark forces is negative energy, only sexual energy that is negative in form can be an issue: i.e. sex associated with guilt or force.

That sounds reasonable, but it may be not that simple. You mention emotions/attitudes that are not tranquil, out of balance, but you can be out of balance to more than one side. I don't claim to have the absolute understanding here, so just view at what I found as food for thought.

Unrefined sexual energy is powerful but crude, it builds up in the lowest chakras, which are the ones, that reptilian predators allegedly feed from, where the energy is so crude, that it makes no difference to them, if the energy is "positive or negative". Just do a quick google search on "reptilians lower chakras" and see what you can find. Applying common sense, protecting these chakras and not throwing out energy there seems to be crucial, so this protected energy can be cultivated and lifted up and transformed to where it's not available to predators anymore at all. There are many stories about people having sexual relationships with 4d reptilian entities feeding of people's sexual energies (e.g. http://www.think-aboutit.com/Reps/reptilians.htm), a lot of times people really 'enjoy' the sex, no guilt or force there, but it still is not a healthy relationship.

The Chinese call the crude energy "Jing" (http://www.newworldencyclopedia.org/entry/Jing_Qi_Shen) which can be either lost to some degree if a male does ejaculate when experiencing an orgasm, or it can be refined to "Qi" and "Shen" (http://www.universal-tao.com/9formulas.html).

"They seek energy, and earth has been molded into a farm for them. This energy consists of human life force, emotional and spiritual and sexual energy. Being hyperdimensional, they can suck this directly via telepathic connection, or via the many agents or portals they have instated among the general population." (http://montalk.net/alien/)

So having sex and ejaculating "just for fun" while thinking a positive attitude when doing it fixes it all might in the light of the above be just as smart as cutting oneself with a positive attitude. Surely being positive is positive, but you gotta be smart, too, I figure, to avoid being taken advantage of. I'm sure everyone knows an example where well meaning people were deviously preyed upon.

I'm sure, it's more complicated than I layed it out here, when it comes to how and why sexual energy can be harnessed by predators, thus I think it's very reasonable, not to oversimplify this issue one way or the other.

bennycog
28th August 2011, 11:14
Originally Posted by bennycog
"Don't think it is possible to ever stop thinking about sex Raymond "

Yes I don't think it is possible for you to stop thinking about sex because you are too weak-minded like the majority of the males out there.

See some cleavage, see some ass and legs and your brain gets taken over.

You tell me, if this is not hijacking of your consciousness, what is it?

Luckily, there are teachings out there who can teach one to defend one's consciousness and control one's mind.

Hey raymond :) i like to think of it as animals have pheromones and we have our eyes and brains ( imagination ) to help us along in procreation.. i for one am not upset by this..
you do make some good points though..

Spellbound
28th August 2011, 11:31
I've often wondered...do ET's have sex?? Or is this strictly an Earthly fascination/tendancy??

Maia Gabrial
28th August 2011, 11:39
My point is that you didn't need to post a pornographic picture, beautiful or not. Your intentions were to insult. Insult taken.
All you did was prove my point: Too much focus on sex. And you needed to provide a visual aid with your insult. How thoughtful of you.

christian
28th August 2011, 11:46
do ET's have sex?? Or is this strictly an Earthly fascination/tendancy??

Sex is different on each plane/dimension of existence. Higher dimensional beings surely can have 'sex' without the 3d aspect of it. How this actually works is better experienced than explained, I guess. :bounce:

HORIZONS
28th August 2011, 13:34
Humans are not animals. Humans have the potential to become more than humans. Humans have the potential to become gods.

Well if this life is your chance to become a god then learn how to make love like a god - that's what I do.


BTw, I will rather not exist in this world. I really wish my parents had not produced me causing me to suffer in this hell-hole of ignorance and sin.

Without being in this hell-hole of ignorance and sin you would never have had the chance to become a god - never had the experiences of life to learn from and to grow into who you are created to be. That attitude is a waste of life - imho.

Carmody
28th August 2011, 13:49
Go to the tap at your kitchen sink.

Turn it on.

See the stream of water.

Put your hand in the stream.

Shift the stream of water.

You shift the energy, you live in it's flow. You don't own it.

Nobody is stealing from anyone.

If..you become aware....you can chose how you shape and direct the energy, but it was never your energy in the first place.

Carmody
28th August 2011, 14:09
I've often wondered...do ET's have sex?? Or is this strictly an Earthly fascination/tendancy??

Energy sex. Way cool. Good vibrations. We dance.

In the (comparative state-comparative to this space) formless state, control of directed vibration and patterns, that is what we are. Awareness becomes control of our energy knot or looped group. The energy flows through us. If it did not, we would die. The motion, the flow, is life itself. We choose how we direct it, if we become aware.

Until then, we are like a plant that is used to purify water or whatnot.

Note that in this place, we need to be in constant awareness, constant vigilance, in order to be free. This lesson is fundamental to being an 'energy being/lifeform' in a dimensional plasma state. You are living in a garden. Being 'harvested' will be the norm until you stand up and learn to not be harvested. Note that even here, in this realm..we must learn to be correct in where and how ---our energy comes from.

The pressure against you to be harvested will never end, it will never end until you have a permanent state of awareness and vigilance, in order to balance out that force. You must stand up, controlled... stable.... in the flow.

Th energy will always flow through you. How it comes in... and how it moves out..... is your form of learning balance.

Thus the lessons of being incarnated.

DeDukshyn
28th August 2011, 16:14
... if two humans truly love each other and make out, there wouldn't be any feelings of guilt or shame whatsoever..
the problem is that most relationships today ain't based on love.. it is based on sex, security, breeding, social recognition and money.. that's what it is... most people think it is love but it ain't..

You laugh at my comment then support it with what I quoted here. Clearly sex isn't the problem if it is possible to have sex in a way without inducing guilt or fear, as you indicated, which, even if controllers where using that guilt and fear, it will still be able to deny them their food and have all the sex in the world - as long as sex is treated properly without the negativity attached. The resulting emotions from improper use of sex is the problem ... not sex itself. This is an important distinction, in my opinion.

DeDukshyn
28th August 2011, 16:24
I just don't get the demonization of sex. The only issue humans have is fear and the step down emotions of fear (guilt, anger, hatred, despair, etc) - which are the only things that can lower your frequency, even if subtle and hiding in your subconscious. Whether those frequencies are tied to sex, money, "love", your job, feelings about your neighbour, violence or whatever it is all the same - the things themselves aren't the issues, the feelings created by incorrect or unhealthy perceptions of those things are. It really is this simple, no need to complicate it at all.

That said, TPTB want you to feel guilt and shame with your sex so we get the religious demonizations -- this demonization is part of their plan.

DeDukshyn
28th August 2011, 16:32
do ET's have sex?? Or is this strictly an Earthly fascination/tendancy??

Sex is different on each plane/dimension of existence. Higher dimensional beings surely can have 'sex' without the 3d aspect of it. How this actually works is better experienced than explained, I guess. :bounce:

Sex is the crude 3D from of exchanging/sharing frequencies (but can at the same time be experienced on higher levels y the well trained). In higher astral realms, it is temporary a merging of the distinct frequencies that make up your individual fields with another being. I have not done it but I have read about it being done in higher states of astral travel (where one becomes body-less) - 3D sex is said to pale to almost nothing in comparison.

Sierra
28th August 2011, 16:44
Sex is the crude 3D from of exchanging/sharing frequencies (but can at the same time be experienced on higher levels y the well trained). In higher astral realms, it is temporary a merging of the distinct frequencies that make up your individual fields with another being. I have not done it but I have read about it being done in higher states of astral travel (where one becomes body-less) - 3D sex is said to pale to almost nothing in comparison.

Something to look forward to ... <nudge nudge wink wink> <Do they have the equivalent of Monty Python upstairs too? Gotta have Monty Python ... >

Cjay
28th August 2011, 17:18
I say let those friggin' aliens and their minions have their wicked way with my shagadelic energies. Yeah baby.

Maia Gabrial
28th August 2011, 20:15
I have to say that Gary A proved my point about lowered standards on one thing could lead to crimes in other things. When he posted that sexual picture it was to offend me. It was obvious enough. Maybe he didn't like what I said or the tone of my post. Who knows? Everyone else spoke their minds without getting personal or upset. When I suggested he post a picture of a male doing the same thing, knowing that he'd never do that, he used that comment to personally attack me. I said his comments offended me. Actually, I don't think he realized that what he did was Sexual Harassment. But he certainly demonstrated my point. How quickly things can get out of hand where sex is concerned, even if it's only a picture....
I'm not a prude or sexually repressed. I can appreciate a good dirty joke anytime, just as anyone else. Everyone can agree that the moment something gets personal, then harsh feelings are aroused. (No pun intended)....
All in all, this was a lesson for both of us.

Flash
28th August 2011, 20:20
Just a little bit of my funny wisdom:

In males, when testosterone goes down (the 40's), spirituality goes up. Weird coincidence isn't it! lol

DeDukshyn
28th August 2011, 21:40
Just a little bit of my funny wisdom:

In males, when testosterone goes down (the 40's), spirituality goes up. Weird coincidence isn't it! lol

Testosterone is an insane hormone, I saw a documentary on the powers of hormones where one of the interview persons was a woman who had to go on a potent testosterone therapy for a medical reason (it was actually a previous surgery that left her completely without sexual sensation - the testosterone was an attempt to save her marriage). Even with newfound hair and muscles, she said the most significant change absolutely was they way it affected her mind and libido. She found herself in a man's shoes and although she was unable to continue the treatment (for obvious reasons) she had a newfound relationship with her husband because she was able to see how men are affected by this hormone and relate with him on a new level. She totally understood why men are pigs and do what they do - because she became that way too.

I think women should be a little more sensitive to this fact, we don't try to overemphasize sex all the time -- it just happens ...

Unified Serenity
28th August 2011, 22:45
Maybe some of you do not agree with what I am about to share, but it has been my experience that whenever you engage intimately with others you create bonds of energy. By intimacy I do mean deep and meaningful conversations where you open your spirit to another as well as those times you physically connect sexually with another. Both create bonds. The problem comes in that we usually do not open up emotionally in an intimate way unless we are bonding on a spiritual level and believe that such person is special. Unfortunately, many jump into sexual relationships without considering what sort of spiritual baggage that person is dragging around with them that you are not bonding yourself to. It's no wonder we are a very screwed up people. Just imagine being bound to someone who is struggling with all sorts of spiritual issues that are not plaguing you. Sure, sexual repression opens up it's own opportunities for us to struggle and thus become imbalanced in life, but with the perversions facing so many and I do believe sexual addiction is near pandemic in our society. I am personally sickened by the sexualizing of our children. Just watch little elementary children dancing sometimes. They are thrusting their hips, girls doing the ass bump and boys coming up behind them. It's not cute and we wonder what happened to simplicity.

We have cheapened the beauty and innocense of childhood, we have turned purity of devotion and love into a joke along with anyone who is still a virgin after the age of X. You supply the number. If someone has not found someone whom they want to share their body with in the most power intimate act most will ever do, that's OK. But, how many males grow up and it seems the most important thing is to get laid. Girls are not far behind now. We are not animals and sex does have deeper implications most importantly energetic bonds and influence once that fence is crossed.

Steps off soap box.....

:bolt:

thunder24
28th August 2011, 23:30
Maybe some of you do not agree with what I am about to share, but it has been my experience that whenever you engage intimately with others you create bonds of energy. By intimacy I do mean deep and meaningful conversations where you open your spirit to another as well as those times you physically connect sexually with another. Both create bonds. The problem comes in that we usually do not open up emotionally in an intimate way unless we are bonding on a spiritual level and believe that such person is special. Unfortunately, many jump into sexual relationships without considering what sort of spiritual baggage that person is dragging around with them that you are not bonding yourself to. It's no wonder we are a very screwed up people. Just imagine being bound to someone who is struggling with all sorts of spiritual issues that are not plaguing you. Sure, sexual repression opens up it's own opportunities for us to struggle and thus become imbalanced in life, but with the perversions facing so many and I do believe sexual addiction is near pandemic in our society. I am personally sickened by the sexualizing of our children. Just watch little elementary children dancing sometimes. They are thrusting their hips, girls doing the ass bump and boys coming up behind them. It's not cute and we wonder what happened to simplicity.

We have cheapened the beauty and innocense of childhood, we have turned purity of devotion and love into a joke along with anyone who is still a virgin after the age of X. You supply the number. If someone has not found someone whom they want to share their body with in the most power intimate act most will ever do, that's OK. But, how many males grow up and it seems the most important thing is to get laid. Girls are not far behind now. We are not animals and sex does have deeper implications most importantly energetic bonds and influence once that fence is crossed.

Steps off soap box.....

:bolt:

while i don't disagree with 99% of your post...

Have you ever seen some tribal dances from across the world, way before mtv or videos?

peace

mahalall
29th August 2011, 01:26
In addition to this the UK government under austerity measures is considering taxing sex!

Watch out for those reptilian tax collectors !

HORIZONS
29th August 2011, 02:29
Just a little bit of my funny wisdom:

In males, when testosterone goes down (the 40's), spirituality goes up. Weird coincidence isn't it! lol

err - speak for yourself ;) I am very spiritual (have been all my life) in my 50's and still rock and roll with the best of them - in fact it is way better in many ways, and my wife and I are still finding new levels of sexual energy to explore and experience. if you can be a self-for-the-other then there is no limit (not that we have found anyway) to the union of love making you can experience. :cool:

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In addition to this the UK government under austerity measures is considering taxing sex!

Watch out for those reptilian tax collectors !

Good thing we don't live there - the Gov't would have all our money ;)

Unified Serenity
29th August 2011, 03:06
Talk about pushing cheap sex, two new movies coming out are "A good old fashioned orgy" and "Bucky Larson: Born to be a star". These are just two examples of the cheap smarmy attitude towards sex being pushed on our society. It's not that I am against people doing what they want to do, live the life they want to live, but it seems that many of the latest offerings are meant to play to the lowest desires and things that do not lift many in society up. If people say that they make movies that make money, that really is not true.

Pro family movies that many would say are "gasp" conservative" generally speaking make a lot more money, but many in hollywood want to put out these other movies instead. I do believe there is a push to make fun of traditional values, christian values, etc despite a huge market in those communities. All these things play to a disconnected society and it's been happening slowly over the past 40 years.

DNA
29th August 2011, 04:21
That sounds reasonable, but it may be not that simple. You mention emotions/attitudes that are not tranquil, out of balance, but you can be out of balance to more than one side. I don't claim to have the absolute understanding here, so just view at what I found as food for thought.

Unrefined sexual energy is powerful but crude, it builds up in the lowest chakras, which are the ones, that reptilian predators allegedly feed from, where the energy is so crude, that it makes no difference to them, if the energy is "positive or negative". Just do a quick google search on "reptilians lower chakras" and see what you can find. Applying common sense, protecting these chakras and not throwing out energy there seems to be crucial, so this protected energy can be cultivated and lifted up and transformed to where it's not available to predators anymore at all. There are many stories about people having sexual relationships with 4d reptilian entities feeding of people's sexual energies (e.g. http://www.think-aboutit.com/Reps/reptilians.htm), a lot of times people really 'enjoy' the sex, no guilt or force there, but it still is not a healthy relationship.

The Chinese call the crude energy "Jing" (http://www.newworldencyclopedia.org/entry/Jing_Qi_Shen) which can be either lost to some degree if a male does ejaculate when experiencing an orgasm, or it can be refined to "Qi" and "Shen" (http://www.universal-tao.com/9formulas.html).

"They seek energy, and earth has been molded into a farm for them. This energy consists of human life force, emotional and spiritual and sexual energy. Being hyperdimensional, they can suck this directly via telepathic connection, or via the many agents or portals they have instated among the general population." (http://montalk.net/alien/)

So having sex and ejaculating "just for fun" while thinking a positive attitude when doing it fixes it all might in the light of the above be just as smart as cutting oneself with a positive attitude. Surely being positive is positive, but you gotta be smart, too, I figure, to avoid being taken advantage of. I'm sure everyone knows an example where well meaning people were deviously preyed upon.

I'm sure, it's more complicated than I layed it out here, when it comes to how and why sexual energy can be harnessed by predators, thus I think it's very reasonable, not to oversimplify this issue one way or the other.

I think a whole thread could be started with what you are saying here chiquetet.
For all the talk about aliens supposedly (nipping at our wanker in the 4d) :),,,,,,I personally see a lot more ghosts (dead humans) doing this,
I'm curious as to how many have actually seen a 4d reptilian.
I have not.
And the stories I hear range from folks who seem to have lost thier sobriety on our plane of existance, to second and third hand stories, which seem too much like he said-she said.
I definatly think 4d astrals feed on human energy, I just don't know when we start throwing the word alien in there.
If the astral is a constant over all living third dimensional habitats, well, what do we say to the fact that our astral plane is inhabited by every form of life (but more than likely dead form of life) capable of existing on any planet.


Testosterone is an insane hormone, I saw a documentary on the powers of hormones where one of the interview persons was a woman who had to go on a potent testosterone therapy for a medical reason (it was actually a previous surgery that left her completely without sexual sensation - the testosterone was an attempt to save her marriage). Even with newfound hair and muscles, she said the most significant change absolutely was they way it affected her mind and libido. She found herself in a man's shoes and although she was unable to continue the treatment (for obvious reasons) she had a newfound relationship with her husband because she was able to see how men are affected by this hormone and relate with him on a new level. She totally understood why men are pigs and do what they do - because she became that way too.

I think women should be a little more sensitive to this fact, we don't try to overemphasize sex all the time -- it just happens ...

Very true DeDukshyn
For all the vicitimization programs we see depicting sobbing women, I would like to see woman understand what the hell guys go through when they are a raging harmone from puberty to their early 20's.
You wanna know what a crime is? It's the 25 year old math teacher dressed to the hilt in a short skirt and f#ck me pumps.
I'm not saying wear a burka,,,but give the walking harmone adolescent guys a break. I'm just saying,,,it's rough being a teenage guy.

ahamkara
29th August 2011, 04:51
Carmody - your posts on sex/energy rock! It IS all an energy dance....also, to that woman who thought the picture was "pornographic" I disagree, I thought it was quite beautiful and, well, SEXY! ....also, I agree with Omni's post - where is the real evidence of all these alien entities sucking our sexual energy? I don't see any links. Thanks for an interesting thread!

DNA
29th August 2011, 07:42
I have found the aliens responsible!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=opOsgzzDPdw

Some one has to do something about these dang perverts! :)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bc80tFJpTuo

firstlook
29th August 2011, 14:30
yes....I have to admit, I certainly am guilty of allowing those Et's to harvest my sexual energy. I think the animals are just as guilty too.
For me, I think it started about 9 years old when I first discovered masturbation.
However, I tend to feel it is a natural and wonderful part of evolution. I would tend to discourage anyone that might feel sex was a shameful behavior.

My guess, most people that feel sex is wrong, probably have cultural issues that they have been indoctrinated with , and further, will grasp onto any straw in which they can justify making it a negative experience for others.

Sex is wonderful.

sex might be wonderful under the right circumstances, the obsession with sex is not

sex and sexual energies are supposed to be used to further one's spiritual cultivation but too many males and females carelessly waste their life-energies away in mindless fornication

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Don't think it is possible to ever stop thinking about sex Raymond :)

Yes I don't think it is possible for you to stop thinking about sex because you are too weak-minded like the majority of the males out there.

See some cleavage, see some ass and legs and your brain gets taken over.

You tell me, if this is not hijacking of your consciousness, what is it?

Luckily, there are teachings out there who can teach one to defend one's consciousness and control one's mind.

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So, even if you love sex or have strong feelings against it, the energy-sucking aliens are feeding well either way....

you can limit their power over your consciousness.. this is the key issue..

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The problem is that there's too much focus on sex....

I would disagree. The issue is more acceptance, thus you lesson the urge to over examine the subject.

People are still scared of being around public displays of affection.

There is still alot of fear about how people should express love.

love and sex are two totally different things..

i don't see any love involved when the media unceasingly portray women as sex objects

Love and Sex are two different things but unfortunately we dont live in a world where things are just black and white.

Sex and Love are connected through complicated thoughts and emotions. The issue is carefully sorting through each individuals reasoning. Sex and Love are closer together then you may think. Just Like Good and Evil. Its a matter of context and working through things.

Peace :)

ulli
29th August 2011, 14:50
You wanna know what a crime is? It's the 25 year old math teacher dressed to the hilt in a short skirt and f#ck me pumps.
I'm not saying wear a burka,,,but give the walking harmone adolescent guys a break. I'm just saying,,,it's rough being a teenage guy.

The motto "sex sells" is being used everywhere, why not use it to sell maths, too?

Blaming and criminalizing sexy math teachers.... really now!!
This is no different from what happens in Muslem countries with regards to women no matter how you want to spin this.

The lesson of this planet is to take full responsibility for one's own buttons, and those who attempt to press them are no more than training coaches par excellence.

Maia Gabrial
29th August 2011, 17:10
Mahalall,
You said that the UK govt might tax sex. Talk about REAL energy sucking - that would be it!

HORIZONS
29th August 2011, 17:13
The lesson of this planet is to take full responsibility for one's own buttons, and those who attempt to press them are no more than training coaches par excellence.

Right on - right on - right on! :thumb:

craig mitchell
29th August 2011, 18:41
"we know that all men are like dogs and animals .. men have sex because of sex itself but women have sex based on feelings."
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@raymond

Really? Do we all know that? Please, speak for yourself only, not for me.:rolleyes:

Regards, Craig

Lord Sidious
29th August 2011, 18:44
"we know that all men are like dogs and animals .. men have sex because of sex itself but women have sex based on feelings."
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@raymond

Really? Do we all know that? Please, speak for yourself only, not for me.:rolleyes:

Regards, Craig

Speaking for me, I am no dog.
I am more like a cat, except I don't spray everywhere.
Well, not when people are looking.
Oh, and I clip my own claws too.

Ecnal61
29th August 2011, 18:56
raymond the ET controllers plan must be working cos now we are all thinking about sex because of your thread...are you really raymond or an ET controller in disguise??? iv rumbled your plan.

Ernie Nemeth
29th August 2011, 19:28
Sex for sex's sake.

The orgasm is the moment all people can share in the experience of oneness - with God.

That is our natural state.

Imagine walking around in orgasm all day.

There'd be no time for wars or jealousy or any other lesser emotion.

Where do we go when we orgasm? Where are our thoughts? Where are our souls?

Sex just gets things started.

seko
29th August 2011, 20:47
Sex for sex's sake.

The orgasm is the moment all people can share in the experience of oneness - with God.

That is our natural state.

Imagine walking around in orgasm all day.

There'd be no time for wars or jealousy or any other lesser emotion.

Where do we go when we orgasm? Where are our thoughts? Where are our souls?

Sex just gets things started.

We can use all of our senses to experience sex in the best way, like Ulli said, pressing the right buttons.

To my experience you can even help your chacras get into balance, you may be able to see colours when having an orgasm. I say that by personal experience.

Have seen purple or violet and light blue. Just a couple of times. But it's a start. Like learning something new or going up a level.

I learned as well that recycling sexual energy is great for us in all ways, instead of masturbating yourself or paying for it.

DouglasDanger
29th August 2011, 22:45
1) Human soul is neither male nore female, therefore neither male nore female can have greater sexual energy than the other, each vessel ( male or female body) experiences the physical and energy of sex differently. each reacts differently to the energy release due to thier experiences with it during thier time in said vessel , it's about the experience, not about the male or female aspect...

2) The matriarcal societies predating the patriarchal societies treated men much the same as the women are treated in some patriachal Societies today.( ancient egyptians did thier darndest to remove all evidence of matraichal societies and those whom tried to reserect them). Religions of today where influenced by those matiarchal societies of the past and reacted then in the past to change what they where experiencing. ( If an evil woman rules an empire, the reaction will be an evil man taking her power and doing exactly what she did to him to her, and vice versa..)

3) Take information with a grain of salt, learn to step away, when you pet the one eyed snake or double click your mouse its not because your better than someone or lower than someone, your not doing it to donate energies you may feel or influence, your doing it because you like the experience, afterall you don't sky dive because you can, you sky dive because you like the feeling of it.....

my 3 cents...

raymond
29th August 2011, 22:52
All of you be forgeting one very important point. As damaging as sex is to the body, mind and spirit (unless it is used properly aka the taoist sex cultivation practices AND with the right loving, non-lustful intentions), the time, effort and resources spent after chasing sex is the real problem here.

For men, you have to work in the day-time to get the cash, splurge it on you car which you can use to pick up women, you have to spend your hard-earned cash on a nice city apt so you can bring the screw of your night home, you have to waste your nights prowling the streets, clubs and bars looking for suitable women to mate.

For women, you have to work to get the cash which you can then splurge on cosmetics, clothes, jewelry, shoes, health supplements and then you have to sacrifice your nights hanging out at clubs and bars so that the tall, dark and handsome one will give you the screw of your life. How many hours have you wasted on shopping?

Both men and women have wasted too much time, energy and resources on chasing after sex. A human only has limited time on earth and if you waste your time chasing after the wrong things, then what's important will be neglected in the end!

noxon medem
29th August 2011, 22:54
Our connection to ...
everything , here ..
Is sensual in nature .

Why the unnessesary simplistic
polarized duality ?

(and your sources are bestowed)
- from another time and place

..
-

raymond
29th August 2011, 23:09
our connection to everything is divine in nature and not sensual

sensual is a term whch belongs to animals

divine is a term which belongs to gods

raymond
29th August 2011, 23:18
the kings and emperors of the past thought they could tap into the powers of the divine through using money, power and land

the dark gods, demons and ETs thought they could suppress the powers of the divine

little do they know the Creator stands above all

when the Creator say "jump" even the dark gods, demons and ETs will jump to obey without a second's hesitation,

let alone pathetic humankind who thinks they own all with their meagre impermanent holdings of land, power and valuables

HORIZONS
29th August 2011, 23:28
our connection to everything is divine in nature and not sensual

sensual is a term whch belongs to animals

divine is a term which belongs to gods

I see your point - what you are trying to say ~ but it looks to me like this is a two edged sword ~ and the twain shall be One! That's the point - two, division, polarity, all becoming one - merging to a single focal point. The soul of man and the Spirit of God merge as one in the Divine Relationship - so shall the Yin and Yang, the dark and the light, the male and the female become as one in the human relationship.

Anything that teaches you to learn and grow and become more than you were yesterday is not a bad thing, and I have learned more about me as a individual being, and about human nature, from being in a relationship than in anything else in this world - a very powerful experience indeed. And it continues on to this day - its never been a waste of time and energy.

HORIZONS
29th August 2011, 23:33
when the Creator say "jump" even the dark gods, demons and ETs will jump to obey without a second's hesitation,


Then what's the wait?


pathetic humankind

To whom exactly are you referring - all mankind that are purchasing property?

Deedee
30th August 2011, 13:38
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s9QVq0EM6g4&feature=player_embedded#!

Star1111
30th August 2011, 15:00
Junebug - so agree. Feminism, (which a lot of people over complicate, sometimes I think deliberately) is simply about freedom and equal rights in its essence. That's got to be a good and positive thing. Unfortunetly, woman still don't have their freedom in some parts of the world, I'm thinking particularly about the Middle East and with all the information and teaching at hand it is an absolute transgression that women are still oppressed and manipulated in this day and age ............. shame on those that allow it to happen.
LOVE TO ALL WOMEN of the World ..................... and men of course.
PEACE

Star1111
30th August 2011, 15:24
Excellent post, I agree totally and as I said in another thread, when you make love with someone, your consciousness merges with theirs.
We aren't designed to merge with heaps of people, just our mate.
People don't even know who they are anymore and they go and merge with heaps of people, thereby increasing the problem.
Our mate should be sacred to us as is the energy that comes from making love with that mate.[/QUOTE]

Beautifully put M'Lord