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Eric J (Viking)
11th September 2011, 17:34
Jeeesze I'm really getting pissed of with all the news on TV about 911 ...

With all the officials explaining in minute detail about how the all buildings collapsed and how the planes crashed into them bla bla bla ... obama/bush and co parading and supposedly in deep sadness with all the families and victims...heads bowed...give me a friggin break!!!bloody shameless beings!!!!!

All they are doing is re-inforcing the lie into peoples minds, brainwashing on a massive scale!!! It really gets my back up big time watching all this mind conditioning and knowing that whats being presented by all the media is utter bollocks...

http://1000terriblethings.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/manscreaming.jpg http://whitehouse.georgewbush.org/news/2007/images/091107.jpg


Sorry folks had to get it of my chest............feel better now>>>

viking

Maia Gabrial
11th September 2011, 17:42
Thanks for venting my feelings, too, Viking. All of this is a lie. Bush and his gang should hide while they still can. Showing his face at this solemn occasion as Bush has, is an insult to all the victims and their families who he had a hand in destroying....The man has no shame....(And to think that I used to respect him.)

Lisab
11th September 2011, 17:43
The pictures and images today still made me well up with tears again. For shame America,for shame.

Midnight Rambler
11th September 2011, 17:44
I wont watch the 911 festival on TV. I don't like being lied to.

WhiteFeather
11th September 2011, 17:46
It sucks even worse when you live in NY.

Ineffable Hitchhiker
11th September 2011, 17:46
Don´t watch tv.
Why?
1. It´s good for your health.
2. You starve the beast.
:)

avid
11th September 2011, 18:00
Don´t watch tv.
Why?
1. It´s good for your health.
2. You starve the beast.
:)

I was so sickened today I forced myself to watch "911 in Plane sight" again - the liars and printers of fake money are still operating in full swing - for goodness' sake stop this madness! The Libyans had NO DEBT!! And as soon as the 'puppet regime' is in a 'new' banking system is in place - USURY!!! Utter bastards.... IMF vultures, France wanted corporate African aquifer interests, plus the greed over the oil industry, (the Libyans will see absolutely nothing now), and their gold has been 'sequestered' by the banksters. I feel totally reviled by the vultures posing as UN/NATO and as a member nation perpetrating this atrocity- we should all come out and decry/denounce this criminal activity. NOT SANCTIONED BY ME....

WhiteFeather
11th September 2011, 18:02
Don´t watch tv.
Why?
1. It´s good for your health.
2. You starve the beast.
:)

I was so sickened today I forced myself to watch "911 in Plane sight" again - the liars and printers of fake money are still operating in full swing - for goodness' sake stop this madness! The Libyans had NO DEBT!! And as soon as the 'puppet regime' is in a 'new' banking system is in place - USURY!!! Utter bastards.... IMF vultures, France wanted corporate African aquifer interests, plus the greed over the oil industry, (the Libyans will see absolutely nothing now), and their gold has been 'sequestered' by the banksters. I feel totally reviled by the vultures posing as UN/NATO and as a member nation perpetrating this atrocity- we should all come out and decry/denounce this criminal activity. NOT SANCTIONED BY ME....

Great Video, In Plane Site. Watched it over 30 times already.

Gaia
11th September 2011, 18:22
And we all continued on our way. But as we felt a little guilty of being part of the saved, it was said that henceforth we would our way with our neighbors, we would think of others, we become better people, that would change the world. We really believed that this tragedy together, in the urgency of our lives, we would close forever. Ten years later, it is not ! September 11, 2001, the world has not changed. September 11, 2001, the world stopped sadly... Then, slowly, he began to run. As before. Between love and hate. Sometimes hate is away from home, sometimes it is right next door. Sometimes it is in us....

Gaia


P.S. That commemorations of September 11 serve at least this: To remind us that in the list of missing, there are thousands of victims and the millions of their promises we have made.

Jennsky
11th September 2011, 18:54
Thank goodness I dont have TV. THIS IS WHY FOLKS. The tragedy here (yes 3500 people died, more injured) was the murder of the constitution & bill of rights. Now if that many died protecting the constitution & bill of rights, that would be very different. Memorializing this SETS ME ON FIRE, just shows how they still hold 90% of the population under their control.

truth4me
11th September 2011, 19:08
Jeeesze I'm really getting pissed of with all the news on TV about 911 ...

With all the officials explaining in minute detail about how the all buildings collapsed and how the planes crashed into them bla bla bla ... obama/bush and co parading and supposedly in deep sadness with all the families and victims...heads bowed...give me a friggin break!!!bloody shameless beings!!!!!

All they are doing is re-inforcing the lie into peoples minds, brainwashing on a massive scale!!! It really gets my back up big time watching all this mind conditioning and knowing that whats being presented by all the media is utter bollocks...

http://1000terriblethings.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/manscreaming.jpg http://whitehouse.georgewbush.org/news/2007/images/091107.jpg


Sorry folks had to get it of my chest............feel better now>>>

vikingYour spot on Viking my friend. We must remember to love the "evil men" but despise their "evil ways".....

Sesan
11th September 2011, 19:13
Yes turn off the T.V.!

yiolas
11th September 2011, 19:22
Thanks Viking, you took the words right out of my mouth. It is absolutely sickening !! I was living in Washington D.C. on 9/11 2001 and I too was duped into believing the lies that were projected on to our tv's and radio stations at the time. I thank my lucky stars that I woke up from that silly demoralizing stupor. I now catch glimpses of their stupid speeches and video clips of how peoples lives were changed for ever on that day and it makes me sick. It makes you wonder though, how can we live in the same world and have such a differing view of reality.

Charlie Pecos
11th September 2011, 19:27
Viking my friend, I can relate to how you feel. I tried to read the newspaper yesterday (something I don't do anymore for obvious reasons) and here was all this commentary about 911 and how it made us stronger as a country, how our democracy and values were reinforced! Such bald faced lies I cannot stomach any longer, threw down the paper and walked out of the room mumbling about the f***ing lies. The people I was around still buy the government explanation. So frustrating............

The day will come when the truth is known and accepted by all. Those who scheme to enslave us will no longer be free to do so. It's coming.

GCS1103
11th September 2011, 19:36
I agree with everyone's anger about the lies and deception. However, I still feel complete and utter sadness for the families of the innocent victims, who will continue to mourn the rest of their lives. Today I am thinking about the people who were lost in this horror and putting aside my anger at who was responsible. The anger and frustration can be dealt with tomrrow.

yiolas
11th September 2011, 19:53
Hi Guys, If you want to hear about what 9/11 was really about, you can listen live NOW at
ORION TALK RADIO (http://www.oriontalkradio.com/Default.aspx?PID=10&T=Against+the+Wall+Home). They will be presenting the real story all day with a variety of experts.

avid
11th September 2011, 20:26
Charles Linbergh's speech September 11, 1941 please go-ogle "Des Moines Speech" - check it out
This is a very key speech on a very key date!!!
We are still at it now - he was soo right!!!

onawah
11th September 2011, 20:52
Following is a compilation of links pertaining to 911 as seen from the alternative perspective taken from this article:
http://stevebeckow.com/2011/09/gateway-to-the-exploration-of-911/

You will have to go to that link to get the imbedded links, which are too numerous to embed here.

Gateway to the Exploration of 9/11

The Lightworkers and Starseeds who form the readers of this site have shared with its editors the spectrum of their wishes for this Tenth Anniversary of 9/11. We’ve tried to plan our coverage to take those wishes into account.

For those who wished only an interpretation of 9/11, the article “Decade of Rage; Eternity of Love” has been provided.

For those who wish to watch full-length videos on 9/11, the gateway to them forms part (1) of this post.

For those who wish to watch shorter videos of discrete problems with the official story, the gateway to them forms part (2).

Videos which might retraumatize have been removed from this collection.

For those who prefer to read only background articles on all events leading up to 9/11, causing it, and following it, the gateway to those can be found in part (3).

Some readers have expressed the desire to see the treatment of 9/11 wrapped up with this presentation and a new era of peace and love begin and I share that wish. Probably because of the rising energies, I personally feel less and less interest in such subjects as the New World Order, 9/11, and other aspects of the history of the dark’s failed attempts to achieve world domination.

Thank you for accompanying the editors on this journey to date. Together we’ve seen our way almost through much of this time of turmoil and chaos, kept each other apprized of what needed to be done to ascend, and, through the discussion groups that we’re partnered with, provided each other with community and companionship during our collective emergence from dark control.

We have before us the vista of an eternity of love, freed from dualistic third-dimensionality and climbing the crystal staircase to unitive and blissful fourth- and fifth-dimensionality. 9/11 was a door opened that promised hell on Earth; that door has now been refused and closed. Ascension will be the door opened to heaven on Earth and that door we do accept and enter.
(1) The 9/11 Videos

A selection of the best long videos on the alleged history and engineering of 9/11
(2) The Top Ten Reasons for Believing that 9/11 was an Inside Job

An assortment of short videos on troublesome aspects of the official story.
(3) Articles dealing with 9/11 and the New World Order

People Allegedly Responsible for 9/11

103 Suspected 9/11 Criminal Co-Conspirators
Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld and 9/11
International Criminal Tribunal for Afghanistan – The People vs. George Walker Bush (2004)
International Citizens 9/11 War Crimes Tribunal
September 11 Commission Report (Revised)

The 9/11 Timeline

On 9/11: Timeline of Events Before, During, and After 9/11

Analyses of 9/11

In the Name of All Who Died on 9/11, We Must Act Now
Anomalies of 9/11
What War on Terror?
9/11 Overview
9/11 The Big Picture
9/11 Twin Towers
9/11 World Trade Center Building 7
9/11 The Pentagon
9/11 FAA, NORAD, Cellphones, Flight 93
9/11 “Hijackers”
9/11 Bush Team Actions After 9/11

Spirit and Galactic Accounts of 9/11

On 9/11: Matthew Ward: The Truth about 9/11
The 9/11 Victims Speak Through Matthew Ward
On 9/11: Galactics Respond on the Day of the Tragedy

Targeting Muslims as Scapegoats for 9/11

The Situation of Muslims in Western Countries
This 9/11, Vindicate the American Muslim Community
To Muslims of America, I Apologize
“Ground Zero Mosque” and 9/11
Unwelcome: The Muslims Next Door
Yawnnnnnnn…. Osama bin Laden is Dead … Again
9/11 Was an Islamic Thing? Not in My Books
This 9/11, It’s Time to Apologize to Muslims
The “Demonization” of Muslims and the Battle for Oil (2007)

9/11 Whistleblowers

Former Italian PM Blew Whistle on 9/11 as Far Back as 2007
9/11 9/11 Commission and Whistleblowers

Assassination and Other Black Operations

On the JFK Assassination, Military Complex and 9/11
The Fate of Those Who Oppose the MIC
Assassination in America
Fake Terror: The Road to War and Dictatorship (2000)
Andrew Gavin Marshall: 9/11 and America’s Secret Terror Campaign
Explosions in Mumbai? Could the Same Group be Responsible as in 2008? (You Bet)
Were the Mumbai Bombings Part of an “Exit Strategy” from Afghanistan?
Fred Burks: Assassinations
Norway’s Oklahoma City? What Bomb was Used in Oklahoma City?
How Black Ops Staged the London Bombings (2005)

Aftermath of 9/11: Curtailment of Freedom

9/11, Deep Events, and the Curtailment of U.S. Freedoms

The New World Order

I Accuse
The Black Hats Must Go
High Noon
Andrew Gavin Marshall: The Global Political Awakening and the New World Order
Paul Craig Roberts: The Evil Empire
The Very Dark Side of U.S. History
Nimble Mammals – 1; Brainless Dinosaurs – 0
The Woodenness of Authoritarianism
Billy Cooper: The Secret Government

CIA and the International Drug Trade

Involvement of American Banks, CIA in Drug Trade
Azad Ismi: Crime of the Century: CIA – Cocaine International Agency
U.S. Banks Financing Mexican Gangs Admitted in Court
Who Benefits from the Afghan Opium Trade? (2006)

The Illuminati Financial Empire

The Second Scenario: World Finances
Freeze the $1.5 Quadrillion Derivatives Bubble
The Tower of Basel: BIS and a Global Currency
Citigroups’ Plutocratic Vision for America
The Global Economic Crisis: The Great Depression of the XXI Century
Derivatives: The Elephant on the Breakfast Table
Matthias Chang: America is Insolvent. Why Would China’s Rating Agency Rate US Sovereign Debt AA When It is No Better than Junk?
Goldman-Sachs: The Great American Bubble Machine
Elizabeth Warren Uncovered What the Govt. Did to ‘Rescue’ AIG, and It Ain’t Pretty
Ellen Brown: How Financial Brokers Became Bookies: The Insidious Transformation of Markets Into Casinos
The Big Short: How Wall Street Destroyed Main Street
‘Financial warfare’ triggers global economic crisis (1997)
Andrew Gavin Marshall: Bilderberg, the Trilateral Commission and the Federal Reserve
Global Poverty in the Late 20th Century (1998)
Matthias Chang: Financial Fraud and the Global Derivative Casino
Ellen Brown on Foreclosuregate
Tanya Cariina Hsu: The Beginning of the End of the American Empire
A Secretive Banking Elite Rules Trading in Derivatives

Referee
11th September 2011, 22:50
All their pomp and circumstance over the 911 BS this is all I have to say.....................


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zStwUCu_Prw

firstlook
12th September 2011, 00:25
I picked up the Times magazine special issue on 911 while shopping. Glanced through it real quick where they have special interviews with the likes of Dick Cheney and others. I had to rush home and watch Architects and Engineers for 911 truth.

All I can say is more and more people are getting it. Truth always has the advantage in the end. Once its there, it isn't going nowhere.

etheric underground
12th September 2011, 00:35
I wish someone would take out the tv channels and re-run LOOSE CHANGE over and over again
to make people awaken from there stupor....

ghostrider
12th September 2011, 00:52
9-11 ? just know the people responsible for this event are NOT HUMAN. no human could do what they did and live with themselves. Just shows that the ptb think of humanity as nothing more than cattle. sadly the ptb used 9-11 to create another alphabet soup agency, if we need the department of homeland security then we don't need the CIA, NSA, FBI, ATF, all these wankers were asleep on the job. speaking from a sheeple in the matrix point of view. look at the money we could save by closing the doors on the big four . what a mind control job, terroist attacked us and there's never been such after that, ten years nothing, if the terrorist did this they would strike again and again. they supposedly hate america and want us dead but for ten years NOTHING. ehumm we want you dead but we ain't gonna do anything but talk @#$ to cnn. gotta love the matrix and it's evil trolls.

Snowbird
12th September 2011, 01:05
Last night I sat and listened to an hour long audio vid by John Lash over on Helvetic's thread (post # 665)which I have linked. I wasn't at all ready for what I heard. What I heard, may very well undo what is now the common understanding offered by the Truth movement. This information is totally radical and yet makes perfect sense. If you start to listen to this audio, please give yourself enough time to hear it to the end...it is at the end where you will understand everything.


http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?1383-The-Continuing-Search-For-The-Truth&p=296857&viewfull=1#post296857

Arrowwind
12th September 2011, 01:37
Thermite is not an explosive. It melts steel. Other materials were used to create the controlled demolition.


People have testified that a week or two before the 9/11 incident many workers went through the building in the shafts of the elevators. I consider this Lash lecture BS. Many others heard the explosions and have gone on record testifying it to be so.
That Dan Rather and others were controlled opposition is BS. They called it as they saw it. This guy is not looking at the whole story. Jones never said thermite caused the fall. It did play a role though. Turning to dust is a result of demolition with common explosives.

That 9/11 was a cyclops of mental destruction I agree.

Directed free energy? D.E.W. ? I sincerely doubt it. How could they bear to withhold their use for a full 10 years?

I will prefer to listen to and find merit with the eye witnesses that have recorded their testimony.


here's what wiki says about thermite


"Civilian uses
The violent effects of thermiteThermite reactions have many uses. Thermite is not an explosive; instead it operates by exposing a very small area of metal to extremely high temperatures. Intense heat focused on a small spot can be used to cut through metal or weld metal components together both by melting metal from the components, and by injecting molten metal from the thermite reaction itself."

Other explosives were used in conjunction with thermite.


Those who try to discredit Jones should read this.

http://www.journalof911studies.com/l...dsThermite.pdf

“Thermite Hypothesis” versus “Controlled Demolition Hypothesis”: a
response to “The Scientific Method Applied to the Thermite
Hypothesis”
By Arabesque1

A review of: The Scientific Method Applied to the Thermite Hypothesis2 by
Judy Wood and Morgan Reynolds.

Wood and Reynolds have frequently been critical of Steven Jones’ research
into the collapse of the World Trade Center buildings on 9/11. Their
“thermite hypothesis” paper is a series of objections against the possible use
of thermite in the destruction of the World Trade Center buildings. Many of
these objections are answered elsewhere by Frank Legge.3
However, there are other problems with their paper. In particular, it is
demonstrable that Wood and Reynolds distort the actual position of Steven
Jones throughout their essay. This tactic is known as a straw-man fallacy:
“The Straw Man fallacy is committed when a person simply ignores a
person's actual position and substitutes a distorted, exaggerated or
misrepresented version of that position.”4

The straw-man fallacy is frequently used to “win” an argument
illegitimately. It can also be used unintentionally. However, as Wood and
Reynolds have analyzed Steven Jones’ work in the past, they should know
the topic they are discussing and therefore they should be aware that they are
distorting the position of Steven Jones.5 From their arguments, it quickly
becomes apparent that Wood and Reynolds are attempting to “debunk” the
possibility of thermite in the destruction of the World Trade Center Towers
with illegitimate arguments based on the straw-man fallacy.
Although not openly stated, their misrepresentation of Steven Jones’
position can be summarized as:

“Steven Jones advocates that thermite is the only reason/evidence that the
World Trade Center collapsed.”
This is clear from the very title of their essay ("thermite hypothesis”).
Their entire essay implies that Steven Jones has no other evidence because
they fail to acknowledge any. This is significantly misleading as Steven
Jones’ theory is not exclusively a “thermite hypothesis”—it is a “controlled
demolition hypothesis”.

From the abstract of Why Indeed did the World Trade Center Towers
Completely Collapse?

“In this paper, I call for a serious investigation of the hypothesis that WTC 7 and the
Twin Towers were brought down, not just by impact damage and fires, but through the
use of pre-positioned cutter-charges. I consider the official FEMA, NIST, and 9-11
Commission reports that fires plus impact damage alone caused complete collapses of all
three buildings. And I present evidence for the controlled-demolition hypothesis, which
is suggested by the available data, and can be tested scientifically, and yet has not been
analyzed in any of the reports funded by the US government.”
7

There is no mention of any “thermite hypothesis”, or even thermite in the
abstract of Jones’ paper that investigates the destruction of the World Trade
Center Towers and Building 7. As well, Jones’ paper gives “Thirteen
Reasons to Challenge Government-sponsored Reports and Investigate the
Controlled-demolition Hypothesis.”8 Again, there is no mention of thermite
in the titles of these sections.

Tellingly, the phrase “controlled demolition hypothesis” does not occur one
single time in the paper by Wood and Reynolds—although “controlled
demolition” makes about 6 rare appearances in a list of 30 objections.
Similarly, the phrase “thermite hypothesis” does not occur one single time in
Steven Jones’ paper on the collapse of the World Trade Center Towers.
Controlled Demolition has 11 features: all of which are argued by Jones and
others9 to be present in the collapse of the Twin Towers and Building 7:

• Sudden Onset
• Straight-Down Collapse
• Free Fall Speed
• Total Collapse
• Sliced Steel (conveniently manageable pieces)
• Pulverization of Concrete and Other Materials
• Dust Clouds
• Horizontal Ejections
• Demolition Rings


Thermite was used to assist in the controlled demolitions. It did not create the explosion, It weakened the steel so the explosions would be highly effective.

pamina
12th September 2011, 01:53
Nevertheless, innocent people died on 9-11 and it is important to acknowledge that and share in their sorrow. I watched the ceremonies this morning, but that was about it. I have been sad all day, but that is ok. So many lost so much.

Cjay
12th September 2011, 03:01
I had a little vent too, this morning, about the new wave of brainwashing. My father started the conversation because he watched the TV coverage last night and thought it was wonderful. The conversation didn't go well as my father is one of the most brainwashed people I know, so I just let it go.

Eric J (Viking)
12th September 2011, 08:40
Thanks folks...I feel much better as we are all on the same boat here...and yes we must not forget the folk that died...

Yes I'm sure 'truth' will eventually emerge to the masses...

Anyway one of my friends posted this to me...its a bit cheesy but never the less spot on...

Just thought it was apt, in memory of the folk that died that day...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bMq1PiUbf-M&feature=player_embedded

viking

mahalall
12th September 2011, 09:53
“Whenever you are confronted with an opponent. Conquer him with love.” Mahatma Gandhi

Look how far we've come,

“First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win.” Gandhij

The multi-layed-perspectives broadcast indicate that they are fighting desperately to maintain their conditioned construct reality.

The majority of folk know in their hearts the truth all one has to do is to keep chipping away at their heads with the facts-they are cracking!

Referee
12th September 2011, 10:35
Last night I sat and listened to an hour long audio vid by John Lash over on Helvetic's thread (post # 665)which I have linked. I wasn't at all ready for what I heard. What I heard, may very well undo what is now the common understanding offered by the Truth movement. This information is totally radical and yet makes perfect sense. If you start to listen to this audio, please give yourself enough time to hear it to the end...it is at the end where you will understand everything.



http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?1383-The-Continuing-Search-For-The-Truth&p=296857&viewfull=1#post296857


This is a very interesting radio interview. I need to get more familiar with Dr. Judy Wood's work. This clears up a lot of rouge bits in many of the current theories. If one goes back and watches the towers come down and you ask yourself where did the building go? Very fascinating talk. Thank You Snowbird you opened my eyes!

Ixopoborn
12th September 2011, 11:09
Yes Judy Woods has made a very useful contribution to the debate. Last weekend I purchased a hardback copy of her book which is yet to arrive. I look forward to that read.

She has been a guest on the Veritas Show by Mel Fabrigas on 3 occasions since 2009. Mel is good - he is not into antagonism much like Bill but his presentational skills are altogether different in perfectly good way I think.

Anyway, listening to Judy's interviews does indeed underscore her veracity. Her mantra is to let the evidence speak not prejudice.

Unfortunately her contribution seems to have divided the truthers, many of which are highly antagonistic to her for some rather strange reason. Those who think they are against her are actually her allies if only they recognised it!

She concludes that there is very strong evidence if particle beam weapons causing the towers to fall. I will defer judgement on this until I finish reading her book.

However, it seems to me that there is only a cigarette paper separating the two views and neither are mutually exclusive. Judy though is emphatic that only particle beam weaponry is able to unite ALL evidence under a single cause.

She is certainly a pure spirit and I suspect she is dead right about most of her conclusions.

Snowbird
12th September 2011, 11:30
Thermite is not an explosive. It melts steel. Other materials were used to create the controlled demolition.


People have testified that a week or two before the 9/11 incident many workers went through the building in the shafts of the elevators. I consider this Lash lecture BS. Many others heard the explosions and have gone on record testifying it to be so.
That Dan Rather and others were controlled opposition is BS. They called it as they saw it. This guy is not looking at the whole story. Jones never said thermite caused the fall. It did play a role though. Turning to dust is a result of demolition with common explosives.

That 9/11 was a cyclops of mental destruction I agree.

Directed free energy? D.E.W. ? I sincerely doubt it. How could they bear to withhold their use for a full 10 years?

I will prefer to listen to and find merit with the eye witnesses that have recorded their testimony.

I personally don't believe that only one type of weapon was used. There were explosions. The steel beams were nicely cut and immediately transported to China. They would have had to use a combination of power to bring down those huge well built buildings.

Just my take....

Fred Steeves
12th September 2011, 11:51
Viking my friend, I can relate to how you feel. I tried to read the newspaper yesterday (something I don't do anymore for obvious reasons) and here was all this commentary about 911 and how it made us stronger as a country, how our democracy and values were reinforced! Such bald faced lies I cannot stomach any longer, threw down the paper and walked out of the room mumbling about the f***ing lies. The people I was around still buy the government explanation. So frustrating............

The day will come when the truth is known and accepted by all. Those who scheme to enslave us will no longer be free to do so. It's coming.

My sentiments precisely Charlie. I think my wife is glad that not only the date 9/11 is over, but the whole last week of shameless, mind numbing propaganda. Her husband can now go back to his "normal" level of grousing at the t.v. news. Thankfully I was busy for most of Sunday, so was only able to subject myself to a couple hours of the sad display. In the evening when I got home though, there was an e-mail for me from my dad, who is hopelessly trapped in the illusion. It was a patriotic tribute to 9/11, with a whole series of terrible pictures of the day, and began with the words "NEVER FORGET".

That blew me away, I thought he at least somewhat knew my thoughts on the matter. Still mulling over how best to politely, but firmly respond, and set the record straight.

Cheers,
Fred

gandra99
12th September 2011, 11:56
The End ... very soon

bodhii71
12th September 2011, 12:20
I had heard that a note was released about 9/10, that night Bush JR. Slept with air to ground missiles around him...

Charlie Pecos
12th September 2011, 12:21
That blew me away, I thought he at least somewhat knew my thoughts on the matter. Still mulling over how best to politely, but firmly respond, and set the record straight.

Cheers,
Fred

I know where your coming from Fred, and my advice is to just let it go. He will come to it in his own way and time, just like we have. My wife and parents started having a conversation on 911 last night and it was all I could do to keep my big mouth shut. I wanted so terribly to set them straight, but every time I try, I and they walk away angry and frustrated. Best to allow them their free will and beliefs, respect their choice even if I do see it as wrong. A hard lesson to learn indeed.

Anchor
12th September 2011, 12:41
Jeeesze I'm really getting pissed of with all the news on TV about 911 ...

Well, then they are winning a bit.

People like us are a force multiplier for them.

If they can get awakening people pissed off, then they get bonus points.

So, I am glad you got it off your chest.

I spoke to someone who was angry about this and we talked it through, and then he said, well if I wasnt angry I would feel guilty about not being angry about something that I should obviously be angry about!

They have tried to tie us in such knots.

Time to unwind :)

Fred Steeves
12th September 2011, 13:07
That blew me away, I thought he at least somewhat knew my thoughts on the matter. Still mulling over how best to politely, but firmly respond, and set the record straight.

Cheers,
Fred

I know where your coming from Fred, and my advice is to just let it go. He will come to it in his own way and time, just like we have. My wife and parents started having a conversation on 911 last night and it was all I could do to keep my big mouth shut. I wanted so terribly to set them straight, but every time I try, I and they walk away angry and frustrated. Best to allow them their free will and beliefs, respect their choice even if I do see it as wrong. A hard lesson to learn indeed.

Oh yeah, I'm with ya there Charlie, and thanks for sharing that, I'm sure we all can relate in varying degrees. I'm not out to try and convince anyone of anything any more, been there, done that, and paid dearly for it. In this case I just don't think he knows how I feel, and I think he should. For instance, I'm all too painfully aware that he thinks people like Obama and Jay Rockefeller are just flat out great, so I stay away from the subject. In the same respect that's why I feel he should know my views on 9/11, so that he has an idea of where he maybe shouldn't go with flag waving 9/11 material. Ya with me?:)

Who knows, down the road if he ever comes to having questions about it, atleast he knows someone he can trust to ask.

Cheers,
Fred

norman
12th September 2011, 13:24
Is it safe to turn my radio on again?

Niobe
12th September 2011, 13:26
I paid no attention to the media coverage of the 911 circus. It's like a comment that was posted earlier- I have really lost a lot of interest in researching this type of stuff- who is behind what and all of that. I know it's there- I know all kinds of things are going on to deceive us, but I don't want to, and almost can't put any energy into it. It frustrates me that so many are sucked into the lies though. I popped on Facebook- yes, I know, say what you will, but I like to check in occasionally and see what my friends are doing- yesterday, which was a mistake, since so many people were posting the patriotic 911 drama stuff. My knee jerk reaction was to post videos and such, but I decided to let it go. I do post things and send information along to folks when I think it might get them thinking a bit, but yesterday I just let it go and logged off FB promptly. A friend of mine isn't quite "there" yet when it comes to the truth about what is going on in the world, but she does read channeled material sometimes, so I've sent her bits and pieces that talk about 9/11 or other topics to give her something to think about. It works. :) Love to all- Niobe

eaglespirit
12th September 2011, 13:46
Mother Earth Is WAKING Up...This I Am Personally Sure Of...She is going to be astounding and astonishing People around the Planet as never before directly interacting with Our Living/Breathing Existence Here. The Plants and the Trees and the Animals and the Air and the Water and the Stars and the*** and the*** and the***...ALL of the Natural Energy Around Us and Surrounding Us IS speaking "aloud" now...Anyone with Pure Human Love in Their Hearts will be "lifted" by this New Evolvement!

Don't ask me how I know I know this or why I am posting this here in this thread right now...but there is a reason beyond my own vibration that is reaching out and reaching in...there is an immense 'quiet and calmness' to this unfolding around me this morning.

We are on the very verge of the change we all have been wanting...We will be coming together and living it.
For some reason this 10 year window from the travesty had to occur for the intensity of this Beautiful Wake Up to take place the way it now IS!!!

Love to You All!

jcocks
12th September 2011, 14:01
Never mind the lies - we all know about those now, and of course it is sickening. But I am VERY impressed with the memorial. Say what you like, but the 911 memorial to those who lost their lives (needlessly) is very touching, and IMHO, could not have been done any better.

Anyway, it's been 10 years - time to move on. It serves no purpose to dwell on the past, those truly responsible will be bought to justice one way or the other, of that you will be certain.

Kimberley
12th September 2011, 14:06
Mother Earth Is WAKING Up...This I Am Personally Sure Of...She is going to be astounding and astonishing People around the Planet as never before directly interacting with Our Living/Breathing Existence Here. The Plants and the Trees and the Animals and the Air and the Water and the Stars and the*** and the*** and the***...ALL of the Natural Energy Around Us and Surrounding Us IS speaking "aloud" now...Anyone with Pure Human Love in Their Hearts will be "lifted" by this New Evolvement!

Don't ask me how I know I know this or why I am posting this here in this thread right now...but there is a reason beyond my own vibration that is reaching out and reaching in...there is an immense 'quiet and calmness' to this unfolding around me this morning.

We are on the very verge of the change we all have been wanting...We will be coming together and living it.
For some reason this 10 year window from the travesty had to occur for the intensity of this Beautiful Wake Up to take place the way it now IS!!!

Love to You All!

I agree with you Eaglespirit 100% I posted this on my facebook wall last night..

My I Am proclaims in co-creation with your I Am that we are Victorious...we are of Love, we are of Peace, and we are FREE !!!! The light is shining out from us over the universes and we have overcome the dark as we are light shining brightly forever more!!! The deepest of love, grace and gratitude is exclaimed to US ALL!!!! ♥ Let's celebrate from this moment on for all of time!!! I love us ALL!!! ♥ ♥ ♥ Whoo hoo what fun to be here NOW!!!!

:luv:

Kimberley
12th September 2011, 14:24
Here is an e-mail about 911 information that I sent to my not awake family and friends yesterday... Since I was asked to do a 911 show for my WZLX show I did some 911 research and found some really interesting things... I think you will find them of interest too... (If you have not already seen or heard them) :-)

This is a topic that I have not paid much attention to for years (I didn't need too)...but was led back to it for obvious reasons and found some great people who are doing their part to bring out the truth.

The Dr Judy wood interview is fascinating...


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Hello my dear friends and family,

Today as you know marks the 10th anniversary of 9/11/01 a day that changed the world forever! Well 10 years later it is now the time to discern the truth of what happened on that day ten years ago. Yes there was a terrorist attack and 1000's of people were murdered.

However, if you still believe all of the destruction of the world trade center buildings was caused by 2 airplanes flown by some muslim terrorists then you are mistaken. I for one (as are many) am still asking who did this and why? I am expecting that the answers to these questions will be reveled in time.

I am only being the messenger/reporter here and beg of you too come to your own conclusions after you visit the information listed below from 3 of many different sources and perspectives in regard to what really happened on this day 10 years ago! And I would like to welcome you to join me and many others to take a look at some information that you may have not know about that took place 10 years ago today.

Ten years ago today I personally knew instantly that 2 airplanes could not cause the twin towers to fall into their foot print and how could they have caused the fall of building #7 into its foot print and the destruction to building #3 & #6 also. And how could 1400 VEHICLES melt NEAR the WTC: http://www.drjudywood.com/articles/DEW/StarWarsBeam5.html#TOP And I have had a lot more questions too.

So below is some information that you may not of know about that I wanted to share with you today!

Much love to us all, always and in all ways!!
Kimberley Jaeger

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Please start with this 15 minute short trailer on youtube

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hZEvA8BCoBw

You can find a full length documentary at this web site:
http://ae911truth.org/

The documentary includes several of the dozens of technical and building experts that were interviewed and that appear in our forthcoming full length documentary - 9/11: Explosive Evidence - Experts Speak Out. Altogether of course there are more than 1,500 Architects & Engineers that have signed the AE911Truth petition calling for a new investigation of the destruction of all 3 high-rises at the World Trade Center on 9/11.

Special thanks to the AE911Truth volunteer video crew!

We are proud to partner with the 9/11 family members and first responders of RememberBuilding7.org in the 10th Anniversary Campaign to raise awareness about WTC 7 in cities across America.

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Please listen to this interview conducted a few days ago by Mel Fabregas with Dr. Judy Wood

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3QxOMVpnXmg

To hear part 2: Subscribe to Veritas Radio: http://www.veritasshow.com/subscribe.html

S y n o p s i written by Mel Fabregas

Reading Dr. Judy Wood's book, Where Did the Towers Go?, continues to awaken minds of ... note among truth seekers while mainstream media looks the other way and many in the "truth movement" bash it for its differing conclusions.

On this tenth anniversary of 9/11, Dr. Wood returns to Veritas to discuss the book's reception thus far, and her hopes for the future.

"I'd like to empower the reader to understand what happened. I want them to trust themselves, their own judgment, rather than what they've heard." Of course, one has to read the book. Those that do often return to buy another five or so, she says.

During this discussion we hear a recording of Governor Jesse Ventura lauding Dr. Wood's work to a skeptical Alex Jones. "It was some sort of microwave weapon. It wasn't a controlled demolition." We hear a recording of self-proclaimed 40-year hurricane expert Geraldo Rivera say, "Too bad there wasn't a hurricane on 9/11."

Ah, but there was a hurricane on 9/11. The public was never warned. Nor were pilots.

On 9/11/2001, a category-three Hurricane Erin stood menacingly off the shore of Long Island and Cape Cod for four days, Woods explains. Just after the towers disintegrated, it made a 90-degree turn away from the continent.

Free energy weaponry apparently requires a highly-charged, controlled atmosphere.

Wood laments that the truth movement has been derailed by distracting misinformation alluding to controlled demolition, radiation, bombs, thermite, molten metals, and more.

She says that surviving recordings reveal silence during the demise of the buildings. "The towers did not burn up, nor did they slam to the ground. They turned to dust in mid-air."

She mentions that there is no evidence any steel, or other tower remains, was shipped off to China.

Toasted cars blocks away, spontaneous combustion, papers flying while solids "dustified..." Wood's 800-pages of findings beg to be read. And bring on the skeptics.

"Just look at my book. There is no denying the evidence of directed, free-energy technology. This technology is not a secret anymore. Think of what knowing this will change."

So far no one has disputed any of the evidence presented in her book.

Here is a page about the 1400 VEHICLES that melted NEAR WTC

http://www.drjudywood.com/articles/DEW/StarWarsBeam5.html#TOP


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I suggest your read this article:
http://beforeitsnews.com/story/931/331/Exclusive:_Last_Man_Out_Makes_Shocking_9_11_Disclosure.html

It is about William Rodriguez, who is a native of Puerto Rico, a citizen of the United States, and a resident of the State of New Jersey. On September 11, 2001, and for approximately nineteen years prior thereto, Rodriguez was employed as a maintenance worker at the World Trade Center (WTC) in New York, New York.
On 9/11, Rodriguez initially rescued fifteen (15) persons from the WTC, and as Rodriguez was the only person at the site with the master key to the North Tower stairwells, he bravely led firefighters up the stairwell, unlocking doors as they ascended, thereby aiding in the successful evacuation of unknown hundreds of those who survived. Rodriguez, at great risk to his own life, re-entered the Towers three times after the first, North Tower impact at about 8:46 A.M., and is believed to be the last person to exit the North Tower alive, surviving the building's collapse by diving beneath a fire truck. After receiving medical attention at the WTC site for his injuries, Rodriguez spent the rest of 9/11 aiding as a volunteer in the rescue efforts, and at dawn the following morning, was back at Ground Zero continuing his heroic efforts.

His web site is http://william911.com/

And then if you want you can listen to my interview with William Rodriguez conducted September 2, 2011.

http://www.blogtalkradio.com/belovenow/2011/09/06/living-in-the-now



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Charlie Pecos
12th September 2011, 15:29
That blew me away, I thought he at least somewhat knew my thoughts on the matter. Still mulling over how best to politely, but firmly respond, and set the record straight.

Cheers,
Fred



I know where your coming from Fred, and my advice is to just let it go. He will come to it in his own way and time, just like we have. My wife and parents started having a conversation on 911 last night and it was all I could do to keep my big mouth shut. I wanted so terribly to set them straight, but every time I try, I and they walk away angry and frustrated. Best to allow them their free will and beliefs, respect their choice even if I do see it as wrong. A hard lesson to learn indeed.

Oh yeah, I'm with ya there Charlie, and thanks for sharing that, I'm sure we all can relate in varying degrees. I'm not out to try and convince anyone of anything any more, been there, done that, and paid dearly for it. In this case I just don't think he knows how I feel, and I think he should. For instance, I'm all too painfully aware that he thinks people like Obama and Jay Rockefeller are just flat out great, so I stay away from the subject. In the same respect that's why I feel he should know my views on 9/11, so that he has an idea of where he maybe shouldn't go with flag waving 9/11 material. Ya with me?:)

Who knows, down the road if he ever comes to having questions about it, atleast he knows someone he can trust to ask.

Cheers,
Fred

Yeah Fred, my business partner who I love dearly and is a really great guy, still thinks the buck stops with Obama. I can't count how many times I have explained to him how this world really works and he is still caught in that brainwashed mindset of republican VS democrat. "It's Obamas fault this country is messed up!" I have talked with him about 911, and yet he is still reciting the same old MSM propaganda of muslim terrorists out to get us. Oh well, I showed him the door, it's up to him to walk through it.

John Parslow
12th September 2011, 15:38
Hi viking

I couldn't have put it better myself - I wonder if there is anyone left on the planet who still believes the lie - apparently the PTB still think some of us do ...

Best regards. JP :cool:

Kimberley
12th September 2011, 15:53
Now this says it all in 5 short minutes....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yuC_4mGTs98


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yuC_4mGTs98