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Dawn
17th September 2011, 22:44
David Wilcox interviews Benjamin Fulford, and has some interesting new info posted as of yesterday. Personally, although I like the man, I always experiencing him as holding back more than he speaks about. This latest entry does not seem this way to me. I think it is an important read... and if you'd rather listen to an MP3, here is the link for that (thought not as complete):
http://divinecosmos.com/podcasts/Wilcock_Fulford_2011-9-14.mp3


80 different countries have now formed an alliance against the Old World Order / Nazi-esque cabal.

Two huge underground cities were destroyed on August 23rd -- which may be seen by historians as the critical moment in which the war was won.


EXCLUSIVE INTERVIEW -- BY DAVID WILCOCK

On Wednesday, September 14th, 2011, I interviewed one of the most interesting and controversial figures on Earth.
The information in this interview has the potential to rock the world. If the story is true, it already has.


BENJAMIN FULFORD: THIRTY YEARS AS A FINANCIAL JOURNALIST

Hi there. This is David Wilcock, and you’re listening to another Divine Cosmos audioblog exclusive interview with Benjamin Fulford.

Fulford has worked for Forbes Magazine as the editor for the Asia-Pacific region. People have tried to attack his credibility on this before, but it is documented. I have checked the references myself.

He was mentioned by Stephen Colbert in one show discussing the so-called Illuminati.

I will also say that Fulford has contact with an incredible number of different sources. He does seem to back up who these sources are -- as much as humanly possible.


NUCLEAR STRIKES AGAINST UNDERGROUND BASES

Recently, these sources informed him that the earthquakes that occurred in Colorado and the Washington DC area, surrounding August 22nd and 23rd, were, in fact, apparently nuclear strikes against underground military facilities.

[These underground bases] have been built by the US government, ostensibly since the early 1960s, at the cost of trillions of dollars of undocumented taxpayer money that is going into these “black projects.”

The reason why I contacted Benjamin Fulford is I had [first] read this on his blog [and was amazed.]

Then I started to contact my own sources, which have been built up over being a public figure on the Internet since 1999 – and gaining the trust of many people in various classified programs.

I was absolutely astonished when I started to ask around and found out that everyone I know, with one exception who probably wasn’t on a need-to-know basis, confirmed that this attack did happen.


THEY NEVER IMAGINED IT COULD HAPPEN

Now again. I’m going to turn it over to Ben in just a second. One more setup thing I want to say here is this.

If you haven’t understood the gravity or the implications of what I’m telling you right now, it’s important to point [one thing] out.

These guys never imagined that these underground facilities could have been attacked. Ever.

So what has happened here is a seismic shift in this insider war – that is arguably as significant as the nuking of Hiroshima and Nagasaki in World War II.

And in fact, it may very well be the workings of the Universe, in terms of karma, that the people responsible for those attacks have now had it happen to them.


CODE RED – ON A NEED-TO-KNOW BASIS

There is undeniable significance in this happening. I was astonished at the depth of detail I have been able to get from my own sources about what happened.

I have been told that the situation is now considered Code Red. However, it is also being withheld from most of the people in these [classified] programs. It’s on a need-to-know basis.

Even the sources I am in contact with, all except for one, did not even have the need-to-know basis high enough to know why this happened. Or who was responsible for it!


MINING FOR INFORMATION

So the only thing we know is that the powers that were, as I like to call them, have been putting out stories on the Internet about this event.

What they’re actually doing is they are trying to mine for information. They want to find out who knows what.

And I am astonished that my own sources lack the knowledge that Benjamin Fulford has been putting out as to who is responsible for this… and why [it was done].


UP TO SIXTY THOUSAND DEATHS – AND NO INSIDER IS SAFE

My intelligence suggests it is possible that as many as 30,000 people were in each of these two underground cities at the time that [the explosions] went off. So we’re talking about the potential of 60,000 deaths.

We’re also talking about the potential that anyone else working for these programs who is in one of these facilities, which could either be underground or possibly off-world, such as in a space station, on the Moon or elsewhere… is now totally alone and unguarded.

They are not going to be protected. They are not safe. And their superiors are not informing them of the risk they are now in by being in those locations.


SET THE RECORD STRAIGHT

I want to set the record straight. I want to get the man to talk to you, the public, and hear, firsthand, what the hell is going on, who did this, why did they do this, and what are the implications.

So Ben, that’s my intro. Let’s hear from you now. I’m very interested in this.


BRETTON WOODS SET THE STAGE

BF: There has been a very esoteric battle over control of the dollar printing machine for the global financial system.

What happened was that at the end of World War II, at the Bretton Woods accords of 1944, Britain, France and the US were given the right to control the world’s currency.

They were supposed to have a Marshall Plan to develop Africa and Asia as well as Europe.

They reneged on their promise, and instead started to fake a “cold war” with the Soviet Union – which was designed to support the military industries.


77 NON-ALIGNED NATIONS SET UP GLOBAL COLLATERAL ACCOUNTS

Then, the group of non-aligned nations – 77 nations – pooled their assets… all their wealth, their gold and other valuables… and set up some global collateral accounts.

They wanted to use this money to start the Marshall Plans for Asia and Africa.


KENNEDY TRIED TO END THE FED – AND THE COLD WAR

President Kennedy agreed to go along with this after he found out that there was a group that was trying to very seriously get the Soviet Union and the United States to annihilate each other. This was the Cuban Missile Crisis.

The historical accord is called the Hilton Green Memorial. This is available to any serious researcher in financial history.

President Sukarno [of Indonesia] was the signatory for the countries. He was going to give Kennedy – they gave Kennedy 140,000 tons of gold.

Kennedy passed a law allowing Congress, not the Federal Reserve Board, to create dollars [from these gold-backed global collateral accounts given to the United States.]

Kennedy also said, “Let’s go to the Moon, instead of this cold war, to stimulate industry. Let’s develop the poor countries and let’s develop space instead of having this fake Cold War.”


KENNEDY WAS ASSASSINATED – AND THE CLOCK RAN OUT IN 1994

Kennedy did put out a lot of money, but he was assassinated. As you know, the public space program just disappeared in the 1970s when that funding ran out, and just stopped completely. President Sukarno was hounded from office.

The international agreement that left Britain, France and the United States in charge of the world’s financial system expired in 1994. That is why they wound down the Soviet Union.

After 1994, there was no accord at the very top level of the world’s financial system about who would be in charge next. There was a split in the ranks.


CHINA AND NON-ALIGNED NATIONS WANTED FINANCIAL CONTROL

The Chinese and the non-aligned nations were pressuring the oligarchs who had been running things since World War II to hand over control of the dollar printing press – the financial system – but they were reluctant.

The international court of justice at the Hague was sued by the Chinese over gold that the Federal Reserve Board owners sold them.


THE FED HAD TO PAY UP ON SEPTEMBER 12, 2001

The Federal Reserve Board owners lost this lawsuit, and they were told to hand over the gold… starting on September 12, 2001.

Instead, on September 11th, 2001, as you all know, they gave the world the finger and started this huge, fake, global war on terror. It was part of an attempt [at controlling the planet] by the fascist groups of World War II.


THEY WANTED GLOBAL FASCISM – AND 90% FEWER PEOPLE

The Nazis and their fascist sympathizers in the US, and England, and Italy, [along] with a group that can be found within the military, in Congress, and in the Vatican, were going to set up a global fascist government.

At the same time, they had this belief that there were too many people. Especially too many, according to them, inferior brown-type people.

They wanted to reduce the world’s population by 90 percent.

DW: This is documented?

BF: Yes, it’s very well documented.

I was invited to join this group by Heizo Takanaka, who was the Japanese finance minister for five years. I have a tape recording of this invitation to prove it.


THEY WANTED TO HIDE UNDERGROUND AFTER NUKING THE PLANET

They were planning to hide in these underground bases after they set off a nuclear holocaust.

The original plan was to start a nuclear war between Iran and Israel, and use that as an excuse to set up martial law in the G7 countries – and then prepare for war against China.


RUSSIA AND CHINA CUT THEM OFF

This plan fell apart when Russia kicked them out – and Putin re-asserted independence for Russia. That removed their control – the oil industry – and made that whole plan not work.

The Chinese also stopped buying US treasuries for a while to put pressure on this group.


THEY OFFERED TO PARTNER WITH CHINA IN WORLD DICTATORSHIP

So they switched strategies. Instead, they tried to suck up to China and offer them a world dictatorship… in partnership with this group.

That’s why in public you saw Obama visit China in 2009 and offer a “G2”. This is how you can confirm this.


THEY ARE BEING CUT OFF – AND ARE RUNNING OUT OF MONEY

In any case, this group that carried out the 9/11 attacks has been under increasing pressure, and under isolation, at the very highest levels.

They are running out of money. They are being cut off.


WHAT ABOUT THE “MISSING” 2.3 TRILLION DOLLARS?

DW: Ben, right before September 11th, a lot of people forgot about this. Donald Rumsfeld goes on national television and says that they “lost” 2.3 trillion dollars from the Pentagon over the previous decade.

Does that have anything to do with this gold thing you are talking about?

BF: Oh yeah.


FINANCING “MURDER INCORPORATED”

That money was used to finance Blackwater – a private army not controlled by the Pentagon.

The Pentagon would not let themselves be controlled by this cabal. So they were trying to do what the Nazis did in World War II – create an elite SS corps that could bully the regular military.

That was where that money went to, as far as my sources are concerned.

DW: Wow.

BF: In any case, we were contacted by smugglers, drug smugglers…

DW: Could you just say who “We” is, for a minute?


THE WHITE DRAGON SOCIETY – MANY GROUPS COLLABORATING

BF: “We” is a group of us who are involved in the fight to overthrow this cabal.

It includes members of the CIA, the Pentagon, the [intelligence] agencies, and various [other groups], including Asian secret societies.

We use the name White Dragon. There is another group that calls themselves the White Hats.

We all have the same goal, which is to get this insane group of people out of power.


WHY FULFORD?

DW: Some of the criticism I have seen from people on the Internet is, “If this group is so vast and so powerful to fight this cabal, why is Benjamin Fulford the only one talking about this?”

BF: These people like their secrecy – and I am a spokesperson.

When you go to the White House, there is only one voice they give to the public. They prefer to work behind the scenes.

You’ve got to realize we’re dealing in a world where they use assassination like most of us use tissue papers.

DW: Sure.


IT IS VERY DANGEROUS TO STAND AGAINST THE CABAL

BF: I’ve had about six murder attempts myself. One of my colleagues, a CIA guy, was recently poisoned with ricin by these guys.

Another one of our members in Switzerland has guards around his house, and they just shot someone last week near his house who was trying to kill him.

Before that, they found a Mafioso by the name of Vincenzo Mazzamaro who had a gun and a sophisticated lock-picking device, and was trying to get into his place.

Another one of us had a concrete bag miss him by a couple of inches last week.

DW: Wow.

BF: We’re dealing with some very dangerous people. That’s why there is a need for secrecy.


FULFORD IS BILINGUAL AND HIGH PROFILE IN ASIA THANKS TO FORBES

DW: I’ve also speculated [the following reason why these Asian groups entrusted you with this responsibility.]

You are in Japan, and you’re a “gaijin” – a foreigner, a white person. You have the background of being a distinguished editor for Forbes Magazine.

You are bilingual, you do speak fluent Japanese. There are several videos you have released now that show that.

This might have been part of what gave you this platform to give these Asian secret societies a voice.

Would you say that is correct?


WHY WASN’T JAPAN USING ITS MONEY TO HEAL THE PLANET?

BF: What happened in my case was that I asked a very simple and obvious question when I was at Forbes.

The Japanese people – that includes both public and the private sector – have about 8 trillion dollars worth of assets overseas.

DW: Eight trillion dollars?

BF: Yeah. That’s in the public record. You can go to the finance ministry homepage and the numbers are there.

According to the UN development report, you need 400 billion to stop environmental destruction and 200 billion to end poverty.

So I’m saying, “Hey, you guys, why don’t you end poverty and stop environmental destruction?”

DW: Okay, hold on, hold on.

BF: It’s a no-brainer!


400 BILLION? THAT’S IT?

DW: 400 billion is all it takes to completely stop environmental destruction? How is that possible?

BF: That’s an annual budget. This is the UN development report. You’d have to go through their experts and find out how they did those numbers.

DW: Okay. But that’s public domain.

So the eight trillion is vastly more than what it would take to end poverty and stop environmental destruction.

BF: Yeah.


JAPANESE REVENUE DRAINED FROM RECONSTRUCTION DEBTS

[Wilcock note: Elsewhere, Fulford said he found that a significant percentage of Japanese revenue was being paid to the oil cabal – thanks to exploitive reconstruction contracts with high interest rates that were signed after World War II.

These contracts were reinforced with bribery, blackmail, death threats and assassinations of Japanese government officials who didn’t agree.]


90 PERCENT OF WORLD SAVINGS ABSORBED BY US MILITARY

BF: The other thing is that if you look at the statistics, you realize that 90 percent of the world’s savings was being sucked out of the system by the US military-industrial complex.

DW: How do you prove that?

BF: I was a financial journalist for 25 years. This is all public-record stuff.

DW: Ninety percent of the US budget is going to the military.

BF: There’s an easy way to check. Just look at the US external trade deficit and compare it to the US military budget. You’ll find an amazing similarity over the years.

DW: (Laughs)

BF: That’s for the simple reason that the military does not produce tradable goods. They were a parasitic entity on the world economy.


WHY NOT HEAL THE WORLD AND COLONIZE SPACE?

What I said was simply, “Look. Why don’t you just stop paying for this military?” I told this to the Asians – “and instead ask them to [end poverty and environmental destruction] and set them to exploring space?”

It’s the sort of thing that’s just common sense.

DW: Okay, Ben, your audio just cut out on that last sentence. [Missing content was replaced in brackets.]

BF: I think that is common sense.

DW: Okay.


ASSASSINATION ORDERS

BF: What happened was that an assassination order came out for me.

The South Korean secret police informed the Chinese that there was an order to have me killed.

You can check. My colleague Paul Klebnikov, the Moscow bureau chief for Forbes Magazine, was shot nine times outside of his apartment in Moscow.

He was still alive when the ambulance came an hour later. He got to the hospital and he was put in the hospital elevator. The elevator was stopped for eight minutes – and he died in the elevator.

He was investigating a member of this same group that I was.

He was investigating Boris Berezovsky, one of the oil tycoons.

I was investigating Heizo Takenaka – but they all go back to the same cabal.

DW: Right.


THE WAR ON TERROR WAS OBVIOUSLY A FAKE

BF: In any case, the South Koreans told the Chinese that an assassination order was out for me. This was because of my publicly calling for the Asians to stop spending their savings on this vast military machine.

You have got to remember, during the Cold War they actually had this anti-Communism excuse.

But, the War on Terror was so obviously fake that it was just ridiculous to anybody who does any serious research or investigation.

DW: Right.


CHINESE SECRET SOCIETY OFFERS PROTECTION

BF: I got invited to join a Chinese secret society that offered me protection from this assassination order – and that’s how I found myself in this secret world of financial power.

The group that offered me protection was the group that was behind the non-aligned nations.

It crosses borders. If you think in terms of countries, you don’t understand how these people work.

They have big factions in China, in the US and in Europe – both against and for them. It crosses borders.

If you think in terms of nation-states, you won’t understand how these groups work.


CHINESE FIGHT FINANCIAL BATTLE BY BUYING REAL ASSETS

In any case, a financial battle started. There were many, many public salvos.

In 2006, the Chinese wanted to use their dollars to do something other than buy Treasuries.

They tried to buy the oil company Unocal. Congress passed a law saying they could not.

So then they took their dollars and they went to Africa, South America and everywhere, and started spending them on real things – like mines and agricultural land and commodities.

Not virtual things – like fancy and impossible to understand derivatives products, which are basically con jobs.

DW: Ponzi schemes. Yeah.

BF: Yeah.


FOOD AND OIL PRICES INCREASED BY CABAL

The other group tried to retaliate by jacking up food and oil prices.

Remember there were hunger riots in 33 countries at one point.

DW: Yeah.

BF: It was an economist at the World Bank who pointed out the reason people were going hungry was that they were paying farmers to grow oil [ethanol made from corn] instead of food.

That put an end to that.


2008 LEHMAN SHOCK WAS ASIAN COUNTER-ATTACK

Then there was a counter-attack.

The [leaders of the cabal] were told that we would no longer accept dollars printed within the United States.

That’s what you know of as the Lehman crisis.


76 PERCENT DROP IN JAPANESE CAR EXPORTS TO THE US

You can check this in the public record.

If you look at Japanese export statistics, from October or November 2008, after the Lehman shock, you will see something like a 76 percent year-to-year drop in Japanese car exports to the US.

This was the Japanese and other people saying, “You can no longer use paper to buy stuff from the rest of the world. You have to trade with real things.”

Of course, your public was not let in on this.

DW: That’s where I think people’s brain is going to get busted. Nobody publicly knows that this Lehman shock had anything to do with Asia.

BF: Yeah, I know. The way you can check it is to look at the export-import statistics after the Lehman shock.

The other way to check it is to look at the Baltic Dry Index. That’s the price of shipping.


90 PERCENT DROP IN THE PRICE OF SHIPPING

You will see that the price of shipping dropped 90 percent right after the Lehman shock.

DW: Wow.

BF: That’s because the ships were no longer going to the US, full of stuff, and then leaving empty [with nothing but worthless paper and IOUs].

These are ways people can verify what I’m saying with public-record information.

DW: Good. Okay.


NORWAY SHOOTING WAS AN ATTEMPT TO EXTORT 1.5 TRILLION

BF: Getting back to the blowing up of the underground bases, this group was being cut off more and more at a high level, and they were running out of money.

They were trying to extort money from various countries.

They killed the youth group of the ruling party in Norway – that was the Norway attacks – because they were trying to extort the 1.5 trillion-dollar oil fund the Norwegian government controls.

They were saying, “Hey, we’re going to kill you if you don’t hand over your money.”

DW: [They were] just desperately trying to find cash.

BF: Yeah. They invaded Libya to take over their oil fields, because the Libyans told them, “We’re not going to give you oil for your paper anymore.”

DW: Hmmm.




Here is the link to the full interview on David's website:
http://divinecosmos.com/start-here/davids-blog/975-undergroundbases?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=email&utm_camp

Dawn
17th September 2011, 22:47
And about the Fukishima Nuclear situation:

NUCLEAR BOMB SMUGGLED INTO JAPAN WITH 70 KILOS OF MARIJUANA

BF: In the case of Japan, again, I have sources who are actually drug smugglers. They have been selling drugs in Japan for 70 years.

These are CIA types. The CIA drug-smuggling division.

They told me that a nuclear bomb had been brought in with their latest shipment of drugs.

This was a 70-kilo shipment of adulterated Thai marijuana that was brought in through Okinawa.

They found a nuclear bomb mixed in with it.

And of course, with these guys, smuggling drugs is one thing, but smuggling nuclear weapons is another.

They told the police, and they told me. I made it public.

They followed the bomb as far as the North Korean citizens’ association headquarters in Tokyo.


FOUR NUKES STOLEN FROM THE RUSSIAN SUB ‘KURSK’

I have independent confirmation from a Mr. Paul Lane, of Pentagon military intelligence – he was a part of the Men Who Stare At Goats group – that four nuclear weapons were stolen from the Russian submarine Kursk after it sank.

I think it was in 2000 or something.

It was one of those nuclear weapons that was smuggled in [to Japan].

DW: Stolen by who, though?

BF: This is the Odessa group. The Nazi group. The one that was trying to set up a fascist world government – a Fourth Reich.

DW: Okay. How did they get to the Kursk to get these nukes out?

BF: I don’t know the technical details, but they have submarine bases in various parts of the world. I assume it was from one of these submarine bases.


WHY STEAL NUKES IF YOU CAN BUILD YOUR OWN?

DW: The next question, then, would be why would they need to get it from the Kursk if they are powerful enough to make their own?

BF: The public nuclear devices are under strict safety protocols. You can’t just take them and then blow them up somewhere. There are too many people involved in the chain of command.

They tried to do that.


MINOT AIR FORCE BASE INCIDENT: FAILED SMUGGLING ATTEMPT

There were incidents where [the good guys] just barely stopped a nuclear…

DW: Right. Like the Minot Air Force Base incident.

DW: The soldiers did a mutiny and would not commit this “Broken Arrow”. That’s what they called it in code terms.

[Insiders attempted to smuggle out a nuclear weapon from Minot AFB. Several of these heroes died as a result of standing up against this plan and refusing to allow the nuclear weapon to be stolen.]

BF: There you go. What they needed was some nuclear weapons that were not under any official government control.


JAPANESE SHIP DRILLING TEN KILOMETERS AT EXACT EPICENTER

BF: There was a Japanese drilling ship known as the Chikuyu Maru that can drill ten kilometers into the seabed.

They were drilling at the exact epicenter of the earthquake.

We had an article from January 17th in a local paper saying they were drilling there.

They put the bomb in the seabed.


HAND OVER THE CASH – OR TOKYO WILL BE NEXT

This was an attempt to extort money, through terror, from the Japanese.

DW: So they warned Japan that they put the nuke in [the seabed] before they asked for money?

BF: No, they asked for money afterwards.

DW: Oh, wow.

BF: “If you don’t do it, next it’s Mount Fuji.”

DW: For people who don’t know, Fujiyama is right around Tokyo, which is the largest population center of Japan.

BF: Yes. That’s right.

DW: So basically they are saying they would nuke Tokyo, which is how many million people? Thirty or forty million?

BF: Thirty million or so.

DW: Right. Okay.


JAPANESE PRIME MINISTER HANDED OVER 20 BILLION

BF: The Japanese prime minister [Naoto] Kan originally was so cowardly, he just said, “Oh yeah, all right, we’ll sign over money.”

He handed over something like two trillion yen, which is about 20 billion dollars. And they gave him a big bribe.


MAJOR BATTLE WAS TRIGGERED IN JAPAN TO REMOVE THE CABAL

The evidence that this was not a natural disaster began piling up.

The result has been a battle here in Japan to remove these people from control.


WHY DO YOU THINK THIS WAS NOT A NATURAL EARTHQUAKE?

DW: Some people might not realize there is any evidence that Fukushima was not a natural disaster. Could you just briefly touch on a couple of points that you think are the most significant?

BF: If you look at the seismic chart, you will see a sudden explosion.

It’s not like a natural earthquake, where you have pre-shocks. It was just suddenly huge, and then it started fading down.



And there is much more to this interview. I highly recommend you listen to or read it is entirety. It actually has one of the most positive views I've heard or read for a while.

Aryslan
17th September 2011, 23:12
Wilcock has been saying disclosure is imminent for a number of years now. I stopped listening to his stuff when he moved away from science, and became Mr. Ego. Fulford has always been, to borrow a phrase, a nugget. Therefore, the amount of nuggetry involved in this "interview" is astounding. Apologies for being negative; I felt it must be said!

Edit: I did read it. The Nazis did it! :wacko:

Paul
17th September 2011, 23:42
This thread just duplicates some of the material in another thread Ben Fulford recent interview with David Wilcock (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?30623-Ben-Fulford-recent-interview-with-David-Wilcock).

Often I would merge such two threads, but that would be confusing in this case, due to the interleaved discussion happening on the other thread at the same time (the posts of merged threads are always displayed in order of their posting time stamp.)

So I will close this thread for now, and invite readers to continue on the other thread.