Sion

[Referee]

I just want to point out something.

Priory of Sion.......Secret Keepers of Jesus Christ's Bloodline

Television

Vision

Ascension

Sion = Zion

Maybe we should look a little harder at this.

[Lord Sidious]

Very good observation.
I know for a fact that the protocols of zion are real.
However, what if they are actually the protocols of sion?
And that it isn't about ''the jews'' as most people think?

[Referee]

This scared the hell out of me today What if this is real?

What if it is a continuation of the lie?

I would not expect anything less from tptwtb.

PS the Jewish People have nothing to do with it.

[Davidallany]

I just want to point out something.

Priory of Sion.......Secret Keepers of Jesus Christ's Bloodline

Television

Vision

Ascension

Sion = Zion

Maybe we should look a little harder at this.

I second The Lord. Jordan Maxwell would love to talk about this. The accult is everywhere.

[Lord Sidious]

This scared the hell out of me today What if this is real?

What if it is a continuation of the lie?

I would not expect anything less from tptwtb.

PS the Jewish People have nothing to do with it.

That was my whole point, that it is always ''the jews'' with people and I can see that fingerprint on that document, the protocols.
Yet, they are authentic.
So, the identity of the group must be in question.
I put that to my author friend R Lewis and he found that question very interesting.
The further you go, the less it looks like ''the jews'', but only if you are honestly looking for the right reasons.

[Referee]

Look the way I see it and correct me if I am wrong Darknuggett.. The Zionist are the top 1% government etc. the Jewish people of Israel are the 90% and the Palestinian are the remaining 9%. Their numbers used to be much larger. The Zionists have basically killed them off. The American media distorts this and paints a picture that the Palestinian people are the problem. Hello wake up the Zionist are persecuting them. I have a feeling the Zionist are a big part of the PTWTB.

[Lord Sidious]

Look the way I see it and correct me if I am wrong Darknuggett.. The Zionist are the top 1% government etc. the Jewish people of Israel are the 90% and the Palestinian are the remaining 9%. Their numbers used to be much larger. The Zionists have basically killed them off. The American media distorts this and paints a picture that the Palestinian people are the problem. Hello wake up the Zionist are persecuting them. I have a feeling the Zionist are a big part of the PTWTB.

They aren't as big a part of the pyramid as people think.
They are the banksters, but they are tools too.
My post above didn't come out like I meant.
What I meant was, that people seem to say its ''the jews'' and the protocols fit that mindset.
But they are real.
I know that the people right at the top of the pyramid here care little about religious and ethnic loyalty, so therefore, the protocols can't be about ''the jews'' but it could be about Sion, not Zion.
Even though Sion is French for Zion.

[Referee]

Nicely said Darknuggett, I would think if you need a new world order you will need a new world church so to speak one that won't ask too many questions one that will just accept everything as is. One that will look to peace and love to solve all problems. This maybe the only path that is conscionable however it would take some of the power out of the masses if it came to that so to speak?

[noprophet]

Even though Sion is French for Zion.
French Illuminati connection?

They did gift of us statue of liberty...
http://freemasonrywatch.org/pics/liberty-plaque.jpg

[Referee]

but it could be about Sion, not Zion

My Lord I am thirsty for knowledge can you explain?

[Lord Sidious]

but it could be about Sion, not Zion

My Lord I am thirsty for knowledge can you explain?

The Priory of Sion claim to be protecting a descendant of the house of david, who is also a merovingian king of the future.
This guy will end up king of the world.
Now, from what I recall, the anti-christ is indeed of the house of david.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Priory_of_Sion

[Referee]

You made me do my homework thanks!

[Sky]

What about the Khazar factor that usurped the Jewish return to the promised land? I see them as the top of the Zionist pyramid in the world and the drivers to instil/install the Protocols.

The Israelites imo are a factor of gene's / consciousness on the planet and are those who choose to be chosen. IS - RA - EL.
Spread well throughout the world in the diaspora... the true spiritual people of the Creator.

Check out - The Thirteenth Tribe THE KHAZAR EMPIRE AND ITS HERITAGE; by Arthur Koestler

"jest my toocents"

[Lord Sidious]

What about the Khazar factor that usurped the Jewish return to the promised land? I see them as the top of the Zionist pyramid in the world and the drivers to instil/install the Protocols.

The Israelites imo are a factor of gene's / consciousness on the planet and are those who choose to be chosen. IS - RA - EL.
Spread well throughout the world in the diaspora... the true spiritual people of the Creator.

Check out - The Thirteenth Tribe THE KHAZAR EMPIRE AND ITS HERITAGE; by Arthur Koestler

"jest my toocents"

Whatever created our creators has created all.
I know about that book, the 13th Tribe, I have read it before.
To be honest, I care not about whether someone is a ''fake jew'' or a ''real jew'' as I don't follow the abrahamic system and the ethnic side of it is just as boring to me.
The protocols are in force, just read how many things have come to pass, so someone has the power to put them into force.
And ''the jews'' have been useful for many years as those who can be put out in public to take the blame, much like the old testament scapegoat was.

[K626]

Power unrevealed multiplies.

K

[Sky]

Hmmm - DLS your take on the issue (looking from the pov of your influence on the forum) seems blasé to me personally. It makes one big difference if the average person has insight to the anthropological history that has been "manipulated" by forces and powers that rule and thereby "influenced" outcomes that affect humanity. Negatively imo.

There is a spiritual complexity to our lives many folk are generally unaware of and lose out on by being kept in the mushroom chamber and fed you know what. If Humanity is to see a high road potential outcome, then the secrets and majic with the people who practice it - has to be exposed and made out for what it is.

I do not "Trust" Anybody - only the Creator!

It could be every enlightened person's opportunity to share knowledge and educate his/her brother/sister to better outcomes.

The Sion saga remains a mystery as it is too well hidden a meme by many influential people on this earth. Mystery and ritual?

"It is not those who can inflict the most but those who can endure the most who will conquer." - ?? ;)

[Lord Sidious]

Hmmm - DLS your take on the issue (looking from the pov of your influence on the forum) seems blasé to me personally. It makes one big difference if the average person has insight to the anthropological history that has been "manipulated" by forces and powers that rule and thereby "influenced" outcomes that affect humanity. Negatively imo.

There is a spiritual complexity to our lives many folk are generally unaware of and lose out on by being kept in the mushroom chamber and fed you know what. If Humanity is to see a high road potential outcome, then the secrets and majic with the people who practice it - has to be exposed and made out for what it is.

I do not "Trust" Anybody - only the Creator!

It could be every enlightened person's opportunity to share knowledge and educate his/her brother/sister to better outcomes.

The Sion saga remains a mystery as it is too well hidden a meme by many influential people on this earth. Mystery and ritual?

"It is not those who can inflict the most but those who can endure the most who will conquer." - ?? ;)

It's not that I am blase at all.
We are not jews, whites, or anything else, we are souls.
Those other words describe the vehicle that is carrying us around on our journey, for now.
I may know far more about all this than you would ever suspect.
For many years, I felt that ''the jews'' were my enemies, so I studied them.
And well.
So I know them.
But they were never my enemies, it was all my own apparitions.

[FraterJames]

I know for a fact that the protocols of zion are real.

Lord Sidious, please can you tell us how you know for a fact that they are real?

[Lord Sidious]

I know for a fact that the protocols of zion are real.

Lord Sidious, please can you tell us how you know for a fact that they are real?

Go find a copy, read it, come back here, tell me that most of them are not in place?
If that is the case, are they not real?
The identity of the group behind it is in question, but other than that, there isn't much room left for questioning.
No, it isn't ''the jews'' that are behind it.

[Referee]

I have to agree with Dark Nuggett they are all in place from what I can tell. Like it or not.

Also you can replace any race with the target race the US used the Russians.

[jorr lundstrom]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AUw1luGY4t8Protocols

http://www.iamthewitness.com/Protocols-of-Zion.htm

[jorr lundstrom]

Well Sid, seems that THE can of worms is opened and on the table.

Using that story from the old testament about that their god told them to

kill all men, women, children and livestock as a justification for taking out the

Palestinians, they now apply the same tactics on a total genocide.

[Tarka the Duck]

I just want to point out something.

Priory of Sion.......Secret Keepers of Jesus Christ's Bloodline

Television

Vision

Ascension

Sion = Zion

Maybe we should look a little harder at this.


I am wondering about the etymology of these words: someone on Avalon must be an expert in such things! I thought they came from different histories...

I have a feeling that the suffix -sion has its roots in the Romantic languages, whereas I seem to remember reading somewhere that the name Zion/Sion has its roots in a Hebrew or an Arabic language.

Does anyone have more info about this? Is it even relevant??! :o

[Lord Sidious]

I just want to point out something.

Priory of Sion.......Secret Keepers of Jesus Christ's Bloodline

Television

Vision

Ascension

Sion = Zion

Maybe we should look a little harder at this.


I am wondering about the etymology of these words: someone on Avalon must be an expert in such things! I thought they came from different histories...

I have a feeling that the suffix -sion has its roots in the Romantic languages, whereas I seem to remember reading somewhere that the name Zion/Sion has its roots in a Hebrew or an Arabic language.

Does anyone have more info about this? Is it even relevant??! :o

Zion is an old Hebrew name for Jerusalem/Al Quds/Yerushalayim.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zion

[HORIZONS]

The Protocols of the Learned Elders of Sion

http://educate-yourself.org/cn/protocolsofsion.shtml


[Editor's Note: The term "protocols" in this text refers to the recorded minutes of a series of meetings which took place among the innermost circle of Zion elders. The term also implies a blueprint or strategy to follow in order to achieve the desired goals stated here. The minutes of these meetings were either originally issued at the First Zionist Congress held in in Basel, Switzerland (spelled Basle at the time) in 1897, or they were re-issued at that Congress. The Zionist Congress was headed up by Theodore Herzl who held subsequent Zionist congresses on almost a yearly basis until 1913, and then resumed again in 1921. The ideas and beliefs expressed in these protocols are so hideous and repugnant to the sensibilities of any normal person of good will, that the British translator, Victor Marsden, could only work on translating the 1905 Russian text of the Protocols for one hour per day due to his revulsion with the concepts being promoted. The people who embrace these concepts consider themselves a special and separate category of humanity who were chosen by "God" to rule over all other men on this planet and establish a simple two tier feudal society: one with elites at the top and worker serfs below them. They consider non-Jews to be the equivalent of cattle and therefore afford no more concern for the "rights" of the subhuman Goyim than one would grant to a herd of steer or sheep.

You will notice that the strategies of control expostulated here-in 1897- such as the use of fiat paper from Zionist owned banks to replace currency backed by gold, along with the destruction of the nuclear family unit, control of school curriculums, the end of freedoms of any stripe, the creation of "terrorism" to frighten the Goy into clamoring for safety over safeguarding of constitutional rights, etc., etc., etc. is today being followed and employed exactly as laid out by Zionist planners in the 19th century.

While Zionists and their agents are dispersed world wide, the heart of Zionism resides with those who control the state of Israel. I bear no ill will toward Israelis who do not endorse Zionism, but I am mindful that the Zionists in control of that tiny nation have wielded enormous influence upon American politicians who in turn, have burdened the American taxpayer with the cost of funding the strife, oppression, and terrorism which Israel has wrecked upon so many defenseless and vulnerable people around the world. For the twisted minds who embrace these precepts, there is no lower limit to the degree of deceit, dishonesty, abuse, trickery, cruelty, or killing that the Talmud tells they that they are allowed to employ in order to achieve their goals of a One World feudal society in which merely staying alive in order to serve the Zionist masters and enjoy even one more day of life, will be the ONLY concern of the Goyim "workers'...Ken Adachi]

Translated by Victor E. Marsden
http://educate-yourself.org/cn/protocolsofsion.shtml

[passiglight]

the priory of sion/zion is all too near-history,,,,,,and irrelevant,,,,,,,,

the illuminatti cocktail,,,,,,,,,,stems from ATLANTIS,,,,,,,,,,

we see them now,, as the bloodlines, but they are commonly,,,,,,,,,,the german/uk/italian/jewish brigade

[Referee]

the priory of sion/zion is all too near-history,,,,,,and irrelevant,,,,,,,,

the illuminatti cocktail,,,,,,,,,,stems from ATLANTIS,,,,,,,,,,

we see them now,, as the bloodlines, but they are commonly,,,,,,,,,,the german/uk/italian/jewish brigade

Is there some literature on this? How do you know?

[ktlight]

http://vimeo.com/12024062
Very good observation.
I know for a fact that the protocols of zion are real.
However, what if they are actually the protocols of sion?
And that it isn't about ''the jews'' as most people think?

I came across this video of a Jewish lady explaining

Zionism is NOT Jewish Tzionut

http://vimeo.com/12024062

[ktlight]

I know for a fact that the protocols of zion are real.

Lord Sidious, please can you tell us how you know for a fact that they are real?

Here is a link to the Protocols

http://www.aztlan.net/protocols.htm

[Lord Sidious]

http://vimeo.com/12024062
Very good observation.
I know for a fact that the protocols of zion are real.
However, what if they are actually the protocols of sion?
And that it isn't about ''the jews'' as most people think?

I came across this video of a Jewish lady explaining

Zionism is NOT Jewish Tzionut

http://vimeo.com/12024062

Look her up on youtube, I have seen a few of her vids.
Not a very nice couple, her and her husband.
Racist? Only slightly.

[Referee]

Mods perhaps you can merge the two threads Sion and the Protocols of the Learned Elders of Sion. I thimk one is the extension of the other.

Best Regards,

Referee

[Aurelius]

just thought I'd also mention ...

according to Burisch .. the new name for the Majestic group is Scion ..

http://projectcamelot.org/lang/en/dan_burisch_marci_mcdowell_zurich_2009_transcript_ en.html

[Lord Sidious]

just thought I'd also mention ...

according to Burisch .. the new name for the Majestic group is Scion ..

http://projectcamelot.org/lang/en/dan_burisch_marci_mcdowell_zurich_2009_transcript_ en.html

Now that is VERY interesting.

[noprophet]

For the sake of convenience to those reading;

The Burisch transcript:

[to Marcia] Should we just go ahead and name them? Name it?

The group which took over... and this is going to be a very big problem, because this is streaming out live; it’s being maintained for public record. The new group which took over after Majestic is named Scion, S-C-I-O-N (not S-I-O-N as in the Priory of Sion) [laughter]... S-C-I-O-N, which means a transplant, such as when you would transplant a shoot of a tree onto another tree, it’s called a scion. It’s a biological term.

MMcD: It’s a name alike but it is a spelling difference.

DB: They had asked Marcia and myself for some suggestions for names, and that biological term, that term actually came from me, and it was adopted as such. Now, this statement which just went live over the Internet is now out there forever, and it will cause serious military-industrial complex problems within the shadow government, even in our own country. But, again, you have the right to know. An individual yelled out last night: Tell us all you know.

[Sierra]

Mods perhaps you can merge the two threads Sion and the Protocols of the Learned Elders of Sion. I thimk one is the extension of the other.

Best Regards,

Referee

Hi Referee,

The other thread is up to four pages and has a different flavor than this thread, so I believe it would be better to let them travel their separate paths.

Thanks for the heads up though. :)

Sierra

[Ellisa]

No one has attempted to explain "sion" so here goes.

It is merely a "suffix" that is it is attached to another existing word but has no meaning on its own in this context.

"Sion" is one of 3 suffixes that are pronounced "shun", The others are "tion" and "ssion" . They all do the same job and are pronounced the same.

Examples of each are televi SION -television
Edi TION -Edition
obse SSION -obsession


So nothing to do with protocols etc. just grammar.

[Lord Sidious]

No one has attempted to explain "sion" so here goes.

It is merely a "suffix" that is it is attached to another existing word but has no meaning on its own in this context.

"Sion" is one of 3 suffixes that are pronounced "shun", The others are "tion" and "ssion" . They all do the same job and are pronounced the same.

Examples of each are televi SION -television
Edi TION -Edition
obse SSION -obsession


So nothing to do with protocols etc. just grammar.

Erm, no.
I already did explain it as per the protocols.
It is French for Zion.

[Ellisa]

Lord Sidious---Yes it is. But that is different use from the suffix as suggested by Tarka the Duck. In the context of the word "television" the "sion" has no meaning and is pronounced totally differently and is just a meaningless suffix which gets its grammatical status from attaching to an existing word or part thereof --- though the derivation of "television" is interesting in its own right!

[Lord Sidious]

Lord Sidious---Yes it is. But that is different use from the suffix as suggested by Tarka the Duck. In the context of the word "television" the "sion" has no meaning and is pronounced totally differently and is just a meaningless suffix which gets its grammatical status from attaching to an existing word or part thereof --- though the derivation of "television" is interesting in its own right!

You are making an assumption that may be correct, but it could be incorrect as well.
We know that ''they'' do all sorts of things with words, symbols and logos.

[161803398]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IaSEiF2niFU


David Flynn talks about the very special geometric position of Jerusalem in the world, and in fact the galaxy and how much thought has been given to this in the creation of the states and cities of the world. Apparently if there is enough chaos in the world, a BIG PERSIAN :) is going to come out of a well, and there will be a fight between the various factions -- then the "angels" come back AND THEN we get the ONE WORLD temple in Jerusalem. How much is this influencing the disgusting behavior of Nato and others who are behaving in an extremely provocative way. I know its affecting Canada's fearless leader, Harper, who believes the end of the World is coming. On another thread, someone was saying people at the Pentagon believe the Annunaki are coming back. I wouldn't be surprised if these beliefs are part of their motivation.

4Dn6WMOIC2s

The point I am making is that Jerusalem is not for the Jews. Its for the NWO.

[crested-duck]

I spent a whole lot of time at: one-evil.org : reading today and everyone should see the information on this topic there, it will answer a lot of questions for inquireing minds. The truth about the hollocoust is there also. Check it out you will not be displeased:jaw:.

[jorr lundstrom]

Lord Sidious---Yes it is. But that is different use from the suffix as suggested by Tarka the Duck. In the context of the word "television" the "sion" has no meaning and is pronounced totally differently and is just a meaningless suffix which gets its grammatical status from attaching to an existing word or part thereof --- though the derivation of "television" is interesting in its own right!

We do have this suffix in the swedish language too. If it has no meaning

why do we have it then? Its not originally in our language and I dont

know when it entered. Could it be that it is put in just to make a

subliminal imprint? Wot do you think?

[161803398]

Quote Posted by ktlight (here)
Quote Posted by Lord Sidious (here)
Very good observation.
I know for a fact that the protocols of zion are real.
However, what if they are actually the protocols of sion?
And that it isn't about ''the jews'' as most people think?
I came across this video of a Jewish lady explaining

Zionism is NOT Jewish Tzionut

http://vimeo.com/12024062
Look her up on youtube, I have seen a few of her vids.
Not a very nice couple, her and her husband.
Racist? Only slightly.

But isn't she right about Zionism. I dont think the so called Zionists are Jews at all. I think they are using them and setting them up.

[HORIZONS]

just thought I'd also mention ...

according to Burisch .. the new name for the Majestic group is Scion ..

http://projectcamelot.org/lang/en/dan_burisch_marci_mcdowell_zurich_2009_transcript_ en.html

How about this image:
http://www.scion.com/pub-share/images/error/scion_logo.gif

[Lord Sidious]

Quote Posted by ktlight (here)
Quote Posted by Lord Sidious (here)
Very good observation.
I know for a fact that the protocols of zion are real.
However, what if they are actually the protocols of sion?
And that it isn't about ''the jews'' as most people think?
I came across this video of a Jewish lady explaining

Zionism is NOT Jewish Tzionut

http://vimeo.com/12024062
Look her up on youtube, I have seen a few of her vids.
Not a very nice couple, her and her husband.
Racist? Only slightly.

But isn't she right about Zionism. I dont think the so called Zionists are Jews at all. I think they are using them and setting them up.

You would be correct, in my opinion.
The zionists have many amongst them who are not jewish religiously or ethnically, such as George Bush and others too.
But they are definitely setting the ground work for future events.

[Ellisa]

The meaning of the suffix indicating (in English) the sound "shun", gets its meaning from its context and its position in the word ie as a suffix. When added to another word (or part of it) a suffix makes a new word either with or without reference to the earlier meaning.

English, because it is so full of borrowings from other languages and not too fussy about it, has many groupings of sounds and letters which have no meaning by themselves. The language is crawling with homonyms and antonyms which do not make sense unless they are taken in context, and thus it is a great language for cryptic crosswords.

RE Zion. In Wales there are chapels everywhere. Most of them are called Chapel of Ease and/or Chapel of Zion. Nothing to do with jewish and everything to do with Jerusalem, which was seen as the final destination Heaven--- or Nirvana or Valhalla, if you like!

Viking- what does the suffix 'sion' denote in Swedish.

You would find further information on the function of the suffix on any site or book that deals in linguistics if you are really interested.

[Davidallany]

How about this image
It looks like DNA.

http://i00.i.aliimg.com/photo/v0/339103864/DNA_model.jpg

[Lord Sidious]

The meaning of the suffix indicating (in English) the sound "shun", gets its meaning from its context and its position in the word ie as a suffix. When added to another word (or part of it) a suffix makes a new word either with or without reference to the earlier meaning.

English, because it is so full of borrowings from other languages and not too fussy about it, has many groupings of sounds and letters which have no meaning by themselves. The language is crawling with homonyms and antonyms which do not make sense unless they are taken in context, and thus it is a great language for cryptic crosswords.

RE Zion. In Wales there are chapels everywhere. Most of them are called Chapel of Ease and/or Chapel of Zion. Nothing to do with jewish and everything to do with Jerusalem, which was seen as the final destination Heaven--- or Nirvana or Valhalla, if you like!

Viking- what does the suffix 'sion' denote in Swedish.

You would find further information on the function of the suffix on any site or book that deals in linguistics if you are really interested.

You are missing the point of what some of us are saying.
Think esoterically, not exoterically.

[161803398]

http://vimeo.com/11689705

I dk. I like her. I think she is talking about the same things many are talking about. I think she uses the word "German" or "British" the same way we use the word "American" that is not meaning the people but meaning the PTB. She is right about the judicial system and the lawyers. I think she knows whats going on and how people are being controlled, twisted and intimiated through the family court system, the social workers, the police etc etc. It is an Illuminati system designed to destroy families and people who come into contact with it. The Judges and the lawyers are, in most cases, also victims of this system.

[noprophet]

The meaning of the suffix indicating (in English) the sound "shun", gets its meaning from its context and its position in the word ie as a suffix. When added to another word (or part of it) a suffix makes a new word either with or without reference to the earlier meaning.

English, because it is so full of borrowings from other languages and not too fussy about it, has many groupings of sounds and letters which have no meaning by themselves. The language is crawling with homonyms and antonyms which do not make sense unless they are taken in context, and thus it is a great language for cryptic crosswords.

RE Zion. In Wales there are chapels everywhere. Most of them are called Chapel of Ease and/or Chapel of Zion. Nothing to do with jewish and everything to do with Jerusalem, which was seen as the final destination Heaven--- or Nirvana or Valhalla, if you like!

Viking- what does the suffix 'sion' denote in Swedish.

You would find further information on the function of the suffix on any site or book that deals in linguistics if you are really interested.

Take a look at sound symbolism (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sound_symbolism) and mantra (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mantra) mixed with the fact that these are forms of "occult" or hidden sciences prevalent in all spiritual traditions.

e.g. "Hail Mary" could be considered a mantra. The tones or notes of early church songs were a closely guarded secret. They were expressing divine mathematics.

[Lord Sidious]

http://vimeo.com/11689705

I dk. I like her. I think she is talking about the same things many are talking about. I think she uses the word "German" or "British" the same way we use the word "American" that is not meaning the people but meaning the PTB.

http://www.youtube.com/user/SilverRedIndigo
That is her youtube channel.
Have a look around, she is madder than a box full of cut snakes.
Racist too.
Seems a bit weird, me pointing the bone at someone because they are racist! ;)

[jorr lundstrom]

Elisa wrote: Viking- what does the suffix 'sion' denote in Swedish.

I dunno if its me you call Viking, but viking means one who goes on viking,

ie travels around and trades wot so ever. And if a viking has nothing to trade

he just plunders.

Well, sion doesnt mean anything in the swedish language.

We have been so used to it just as a meaningless suffix that no one

question it. Like if we were used to the suffix nazi, you know televi-nazi

pen-nazi, mis-nazi and so on. Then we had imprinted the suffix nazi sub-

liminally, ie without ever thinking about it. So is that the purpose with using

the suffix sion? Can they be that satanic? Of course they can. LOL

[161803398]

Default Re: Sion

Quote Posted by 161803398 (here)
http://vimeo.com/11689705

I dk. I like her. I think she is talking about the same things many are talking about. I think she uses the word "German" or "British" the same way we use the word "American" that is not meaning the people but meaning the PTB.
http://www.youtube.com/user/SilverRedIndigo
That is her youtube channel.
Have a look around, she is madder than a box full of cut snakes.
Racist too.
Seems a bit weird, me pointing the bone at someone because they are racist!



I watched that entire lecture she gave. Lets try it...don't let any Jews you know eat pepperoni Pizza. I wonder how long it would take to get rid of Nato. Lets go for it. I still think shes cute...even if she is nuts.

[Nora]

Nois means sound or noise

(Edit) In Gaelic it means; which see, to sing and see or Noble


Post war between 1951 & 1953 The Scottish Rite Free Masons of Scotland established the first charter of Free Masons in Israel.

Nora

we are all related

[Ellisa]

Nora- Great post! nois = sion inverted, and, thus , if the sion bit is evil its inversion is all good. Seeing, noble and singing are definitely not evil!

Lord S. I realise that my pedantic interpretation of 'sion' is annoying but I didn't jump in immediately I remind you. I thought I would suggest an alternate way of looking at things. Also I like language to have the impact intended by the speaker (not always obvious by the way) and I think precision is useful. Sloppy use of language leads to a lot of problems. Just think of all those clauses in tiny print on the end of the contracts we are so quick to sign. It is probably a good idea too to be careful of usage (as this topic has proved). Personally I think this topic is developing all the signs of a Cryptic Crossword.

[Lord Sidious]

Nora- Great post! nois = sion inverted, and, thus , if the sion bit is evil its inversion is all good. Seeing, noble and singing are definitely not evil!

Lord S. I realise that my pedantic interpretation of 'sion' is annoying but I didn't jump in immediately I remind you. I thought I would suggest an alternate way of looking at things. Also I like language to have the impact intended by the speaker (not always obvious by the way) and I think precision is useful. Sloppy use of language leads to a lot of problems. Just think of all those clauses in tiny print on the end of the contracts we are so quick to sign. It is probably a good idea too to be careful of usage (as this topic has proved). Personally I think this topic is developing all the signs of a Cryptic Crossword.

I know a little bit about semantics, that is what law is.

[Nora]

Hi Elisa,

Just a little side note here for you -the ancients used singing to to create something, call in something or open up something -it is the intent of who is singing or making sound, what is being sung which cause a manifestation(s). Using sound is just one of the ways.

I looked more up about Sion and found in Gaelic meanings:

Sion; a chain, tie, a bond, active weather (to storm)

Sionaidh; a prince, lord, a noble, chief

Siontatbh; pl. of Sion; which see

Nora

we are all related

[Ellisa]

Hi Nora.

That is very interesting. It is a lovely idea about the singing summoning 'something'. Here is Australia we now often have a 'smoking' Ceremony in honour of the original inhabitants at important events. It acknowledges and welcomes visitors to 'country', which is how aborigines refer to their traditional land. It also includes chanting, (the smoking is the burning of native plants or leaves in a small fire to produce smoke, which rises up, nothing to do with cigarettes). Maybe this ancient acknowledgement is something we humans need to do.

Those Gaelic meanings are very powerful too. I looked up 'sion' in Welsh, it means only 'John' and that would be pronounced 'Shon' as there is no letter 'J ' in Welsh. Obviously the "Zion" in the Chapels of Zion come from a different source, with the meaning of an afterlife personified as Jerusalem.

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Lord Sidious wrote;
"I know a little bit about semantics, that is what law is."

Great comment--- it made me laugh!

[Nora]

Hi Ellisa,

Thought I would add a little more.

Nois in Irish Gaelic is same as Nos or Ois in Scottish Gaelic.

In Scottish Gaelic it means: Nos means Knowledge, Ois means to sing


This led me to Noetics: Greek noetikos mental from noein (to perceive w/the mind) nous "mind, understanding intellect" metaphysical philosophy study of mind agent/intellect (Aristotle) & Divine Intellect (Plotinus)

Neoplatism vous - nous - Nous (Divine Intelligence) the first emanations of the Monad or One

Gnostic 4th Cent. A.D. gnosis meaning knowledge esoteric knowledge which is opposed or opposes Divine Knowledge

Neo-logoism Noosphere- noos, nous mind -look up the Frankfurt Institute & (Fabien Society) for more information on the development of Noosphere

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Noetic_theory

You can also contact ModWiz he is a wealth of information on the Greek Mythos and the classics

Nora

we are all related

[jorr lundstrom]

Lets try another way then. This is an old Nordic symbol called the valknut,

valknot in English. That was the level of the name.

Now, does anyone here know wot it means, ie wot it is the symbol of?

Does anyone here know wot it does with the human psyche, in this position, turned

upside down?

Does anyone here know the mantra of this symbol?

Does anyone here know wot happens when the mantra is chanted?

Im not gonna say anuthing, Im just trying to show there are different

levels in something quite ordinary and that the different levels can be

used for different purposes.

http://i600.photobucket.com/albums/tt81/sakasvattaja/valknutupp.jpg


http://i600.photobucket.com/albums/tt81/sakasvattaja/valknutned.jpg

[realitycorrodes]

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11543891
www.rense.com/general48/Palestinians.pdf


Hum Immunol. 2001 Sep;62(9):889-900.
The origin of Palestinians and their genetic relatedness with other Mediterranean populations.
Abstract
The genetic profile of Palestinians has, for the first time, been studied by using human leukocyte antigen (HLA) gene variability and haplotypes. The comparison with other Mediterranean populations by using neighbor-joining dendrograms and correspondence analyses reveal that Palestinians are genetically very close to Jews and other Middle East populations, including Turks (Anatolians), Lebanese, Egyptians, Armenians, and Iranians. Archaeologic and genetic data support that both Jews and Palestinians came from the ancient Canaanites, who extensively mixed with Egyptians, Mesopotamian, and Anatolian peoples in ancient times. Thus, Palestinian-Jewish rivalry is based in cultural and religious, but not in genetic, differences. The relatively close relatedness of both Jews and Palestinians to western Mediterranean populations reflects the continuous circum-Mediterranean cultural and gene flow that have occurred in prehistoric and historic times. This flow overtly contradicts the demic diffusion model of western Mediterranean populations substitution by agriculturalists coming from the Middle East in the Mesolithic-Neolithic transition.

[realitycorrodes]

Journal axes gene research on Jews and Palestinians
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2001/nov/25/medicalscience.genetics/print

Journal axes gene research on Jews and Palestinians reddit this Robin McKie, science editor The Observer, Sunday 25 November 2001 11.24 GMT larger | smaller Article history
A keynote research paper showing that Middle Eastern Jews and Palestinians are genetically almost identical has been pulled from a leading journal.
Academics who have already received copies of Human Immunology have been urged to rip out the offending pages and throw them away.

Such a drastic act of self-censorship is unprecedented in research publishing and has created widespread disquiet, generating fears that it may involve the suppression of scientific work that questions Biblical dogma.

'I have authored several hundred scientific papers, some for Nature and Science, and this has never happened to me before,' said the article's lead author, Spanish geneticist Professor Antonio Arnaiz-Villena, of Complutense University in Madrid. 'I am stunned.'

British geneticist Sir Walter Bodmer added: 'If the journal didn't like the paper, they shouldn't have published it in the first place. Why wait until it has appeared before acting like this?'

The journal's editor, Nicole Sucio-Foca, of Columbia University, New York, claims the article provoked such a welter of complaints over its extreme political writing that she was forced to repudiate it. The article has been removed from Human Immunology's website, while letters have been written to libraries and universities throughout the world asking them to ignore or 'preferably to physically remove the relevant pages'. Arnaiz-Villena has been sacked from the journal's editorial board.

Dolly Tyan, president of the American Society of Histocompatibility and Immunogenetics, which runs the journal, told subscribers that the society is 'offended and embarrassed'.

The paper, 'The Origin of Palestinians and their Genetic Relatedness with other Mediterranean Populations', involved studying genetic variations in immune system genes among people in the Middle East.

In common with earlier studies, the team found no data to support the idea that Jewish people were genetically distinct from other people in the region. In doing so, the team's research challenges claims that Jews are a special, chosen people and that Judaism can only be inherited.

Jews and Palestinians in the Middle East share a very similar gene pool and must be considered closely related and not genetically separate, the authors state. Rivalry between the two races is therefore based 'in cultural and religious, but not in genetic differences', they conclude.

But the journal, having accepted the paper earlier this year, now claims the article was politically biased and was written using 'inappropriate' remarks about the Israeli-Palestinian conflict. Its editor told the journal Nature last week that she was threatened by mass resignations from members if she did not retract the article.

Arnaiz-Villena says he has not seen a single one of the accusations made against him, despite being promised the opportunity to look at the letters sent to the journal.

He accepts he used terms in the article that laid him open to criticism. There is one reference to Jewish 'colonists' living in the Gaza strip, and another that refers to Palestinian people living in 'concentration' camps.

'Perhaps I should have used the words settlers instead of colonists, but really, what is the difference?' he said.

'And clearly, I should have said refugee, not concentration, camps, but given that I was referring to settlements outside of Israel - in Syria and Lebanon - that scarcely makes me anti-Jewish. References to the history of the region, the ones that are supposed to be politically offensive, were taken from the Encyclopaedia Britannica, and other text books.'

In the wake of the journal's actions, and claims of mass protests about the article, several scientists have now written to the society to support Arnaiz-Villena and to protest about their heavy-handedness.

One of them said: 'If Arnaiz-Villena had found evidence that Jewish people were genetically very special, instead of ordinary, you can be sure no one would have objected to the phrases he used in his article. This is a very sad business.'

[FraterJames]

Go find a copy, read it, come back here, tell me that most of them are not in place?



Ah ok, so basically you don't know for a fact.

[Lord Sidious]

Go find a copy, read it, come back here, tell me that most of them are not in place?



Ah ok, so basically you don't know for a fact.

I said that so we didn't get into puerile games.
I see my attempt failed.
Do you have anything to contribute, or are you just gonna mess around?

[Davidallany]

Do not oppose the Emperor's will, for he has agile fingers from which lightning is shot outwards. Hallowed be thy name, oh Lord.

[FraterJames]

Go find a copy, read it, come back here, tell me that most of them are not in place?



Ah ok, so basically you don't know for a fact.

I said that so we didn't get into puerile games.
I see my attempt failed.
Do you have anything to contribute, or are you just gonna mess around?

Apologies if I have caused offence, that was not my intention. I was merely trying to establish whether you were indeed in the possession of new factual information about the protocols.

[Lord Sidious]

Go find a copy, read it, come back here, tell me that most of them are not in place?



Ah ok, so basically you don't know for a fact.

I said that so we didn't get into puerile games.
I see my attempt failed.
Do you have anything to contribute, or are you just gonna mess around?

Apologies if I have caused offence, that was not my intention. I was merely trying to establish whether you were indeed in the possession of new factual information about the protocols.

No, my apologies, I thought you were extracting the michael.

[FraterJames]

No, my apologies, I thought you were extracting the michael.

I probably need to be more careful with my choice of words, thanks for the kind reply :)

[Peace of Mind]

Once upon a time….
Mission
Intension
Supervision
Invasion
Diversion
Incision
Precision
Envision
Illusion
Version
Oppression
Indecision
Recession
Tension
Aggression
Expression
Division
Confusion
Delusion
Decision
Diffusion
Regression
Evasion
Revision
Passion
Obsession
Compassion
Confession
Intermission
Permission
Inclusion
Dimension
Secession
Conclusion
The End
--
Peace

[jorr lundstrom]

Once upon a time….
Mission
Intension
Supervision
Invasion
Diversion
Incision
Precision
Envision
Illusion
Version
Oppression
Indecision
Recession
Tension
Aggression
Expression
Division
Confusion
Delusion
Decision
Diffusion
Regression
Evasion
Revision
Passion
Obsession
Compassion
Confession
Intermission
Permission
Inclusion
Dimension
Secession
Conclusion
The End
--
Peace

Nice list, so I wonder when this once upon a time took place concerning

those words, ie when did those words get into the English language????

[Unified Serenity]

All I will say is thanks sid and I hope we can completely avoid the whole issue of the protocols of the learned elders of zion on this thread. I like the word play going on with this thread. Looking forward to more interesting uses of the word in it's various forms.

[Lord Sidious]

All I will say is thanks sid and I hope we can completely avoid the whole issue of the protocols of the learned elders of zion on this thread. I like the word play going on with this thread. Looking forward to more interesting uses of the word in it's various forms.

But you just mentioned it!
So I guess you smashed your own hopes. :p

[Unified Serenity]

All I will say is thanks sid and I hope we can completely avoid the whole issue of the protocols of the learned elders of zion on this thread. I like the word play going on with this thread. Looking forward to more interesting uses of the word in it's various forms.

But you just mentioned it!
So I guess you smashed your own hopes. :p

oh stop it! I hereby say "away with that aspect" and let us continue on as we were, forgive me dear Lord.