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30th June 2010, 19:18
Just arrived on Avalon I noticed so much opinions about it. And the internet is full with over the top new age stuff. When actually what is happening now is ascension indeed, we are the ascension. But we should pick another word for it;)
Yet, theres still sacred geometry and esoterics. How does this fit in?
Out of interest Ive read and seen Nassim Haramein and Drunvalo Melchizedek for example. What he says about esoterics makes sense. He talks of geomancy (building sacred sites at specific places around a planet to keep it in tune with its dimension or to create a new conscience grid and shift to the next)
In short: Is esoteric science and their sacred geometries as false(?) as the divine ascension theories their masters talk about?
To me esoterics are fascinating and fit in the whole secret that needs to be revealed view.
But I need some help on this subject so lets bring up the discussion:)
1st July 2010, 04:50
What do you mean by esoterics?
"Sacred" geometry is something much older that individuals mentioned in first post. They just jumped very old bandwagon (and, in my opinion, mixed up quite few of things involved)
There are few concrete geometric principles involved, that are used in architecture for years innumerable. One of the main reasons is, that they simply look pleasantly to the eye. There is a matter of "right" feeling inside too.
Principles involved are
1. Platonic solids (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Platonic_solids), and their 2d &4d counterparts
2. Golden mean (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golden_ratio), which is derived from above (from pentacle to be exact). This is the most important organizing principle. It's commonly used to compose building elevations, dimensions of the windows, proportions of attics etc. It's also found in limb proportions of humans, facial features (especially the more classic ones) ... and all throughout the nature
3. Fibonacci number (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fibonacci_number), another sequence found in nature, but also used successfully in such remote field as stock market technical analysis.
This 3 things form core of geometry involved. As you see it's hard data really, nothing esoterical about it. Some add fractals (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fractals) to the mix too. Torsion Physics (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Torsion_field) seem to be involved too.
Where it goes complicated (and quite arbitrary)
Theory goes that those shapes form an energetic network that underlies our reality, and things like Earth are shaped by it. The Earth grid, composed of overlapping platonic solids projected on a sphere, can be mapped, and properties of "node points" used, with help of other constructs, incorporating basic shapes and principles.
Most famous current attempt to map "earth Grid" is Becker-Hegens grid (http://divinecosmos.com/index.php/start-here/books-free-online/18-the-shift-of-the-ages/68-the-shift-of-the-ages-chapter-12-becker-hagens-the-global-grid-solution). There are points, where this claims can be verified, some seems to be too far fetched, and where, for me, useful data end.
26th September 2010, 19:50
Hey there, Elandiel! This is a nice thread and I noticed you studied the work of Nassim Haramein and Drunvalo Melchizedek.
Quoting you: "In short: Is esoteric science and their sacred geometries as false(?) as the divine ascension theories their masters talk about?" what do you mean by "their masters" here? Elandiel :)
I am not sure how deep you delved into sacred geometry, but it's explained in Dru's books "The ancient secret of the Flower of Life" in a very good way, step by step. I will send you Dru's South American FOL workshop on video, through one of your many communication channels :) as in them he explains sacred geometry in a very clear way.
By drawing geometric forms and trying to find the correlation of platonic solids, like in Metatron's Cube, it works through your (energy)system and brings back the thrilling antecipation of "finding out something for yourself" While drawing, coherence sinks in your (energy) system and that is what's most relevant in sacred geometry, as it is too in life itself. That's what the FOL is all about.
26th September 2010, 22:42
There is related information on this thread:
Nassim Haramein and Dr Paul LaViolette are two of my favorite information sources.
Also David Wilcock, and the thread here is also related to this subject:
There have been some threads devoted to Drunvalo which you can do a search for to read and even revive, if you like.
The information pertaining to predictions apparent in crop circles and from cutting edge physics is of great interest to me as well. Though I don't really grasp the technical info (I just go for the essence) but am happy to post here any good information I find.
27th September 2010, 04:31
The work of Schwaller de Lubics who spend almost two decades at the Temple of Louxor in Egypt explain wisely and irrefutably the engraved relations between geometry, astonomy, history, biology, mathematics, etc in his book the Temple of Man
His daughter Isha Scwaller de Lubics has written few books on the subject, suffice to say that the founder of the then New Egypt, Aegytos (Second Heart), that in projective geometry two parallel in infinity merge.
7th November 2010, 22:25
In short: Is esoteric science and their sacred geometries as false(?) as the divine ascension theories their masters talk about?To me esoterics are fascinating and fit in the whole secret that needs to be revealed view.
But I need some help on this subject so lets bring up the discussion :)
Ascension-Raising Your Vibrational Frequency
Hey Elandiel, that bold statement in your quote suggests that ascension, apart from being a false(?) theory, is divine by nature, but why? Why not earthly? We humans tend to consider Ascension upward moving, towards heavenly treats, lifted on clouds or fudge baths in the Heavenly Fountain of Smooth :)
In my nsho Ascension is merging with existences, by raising our vibration or frequency, loosing the veil that keeps us from understanding ourselves and life. Happening more on a horizontal plane, I believe. Lady Gaia is merging with Divine Cosmic energies, send to her by the Sun, the Stars and the Center of the Milky Way. As I understand Ascension will happen NOW, this time around :) is by sustaining our present physical body and live for much longer stretches of time in them, slowly changing them into Lightbodies when arriving at higher dimensions. We will probably be surprised by the natural feel to that process, cause we will come closer and closer to our natural way of existence, with a fully integrated Higher Self and ALL aspects of ourselves that are "left behind" when stepping in 3D here.
There's much misunderstanding about what Ascension is and Drunvalo explains this in a clear way, like he does on Sacred Geometry. His 2 volumes "The ancient secret of the Flower of Life" are uploaded on www.scribd.com There's lots of goodies in there, all kinds :)
Esoterics and Sacred Geometry were considered as secret and the knowledge presented freely, in Drunvalo's books, was considered dangerous, in ancient Greek culture, there were restrictions in talking about them in public, on punishment by death. I''ve studied quite a long time on sacred geometry, from different sources, and Drunvalo's explanation, in cahoots with Toth, the Egyptian scribe and "wise guy" is the clearest way to show evidence that all of creation is based on the geometry of a tetraeder and the vesica pisces, the base blueprint of our eyes, I guess you could call that the geometry of Light. It's fascinating stuff and very neatly structured, presented and explained in the earlier named books by Drunvalo. Hope you have a starting point for investigation here, blessed be snuitje :) Smiling Tint.
16th November 2010, 23:46
Thanks ElandielBernElve for this thread!
I love studying sacred geometry, and also drawing it! I find myself disappearing into the work, as it does go into infinity. Sacred Geometry has been used for marketing for many years now, and of course for commercial art. It is endless within it self.
Just finished this one today, I call it the "Hippy" Flower of LIfe (done in illustrator CS)
This one's for you Elandiel!
in love & light :wub:
17th November 2010, 00:35
I love your Flower of Life, how invigorating! I wanted a n FOL pendant and found an artist in Tel Avi who makes them and it just arrived today. Thank you for your colorful interpretation.
17th November 2010, 00:38
In a nut shell...vibration is Light, Sound and Geometry.
2nd December 2010, 01:45
be careful with Drunvalo... when he talks about my peoples' motherland of Mu he tends to distort our history, so know you know
2nd December 2010, 01:51
you shall see, I shall show you.........Sacred geometry, Cymatics, Golden Ratio, Fibonacci Sequence, Numerology, & solfeggio para siempre
2nd December 2010, 01:52
Hmm thats the same shape as in here......... regarding magnets and such: http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?8642-Coral-Castle-Code&p=74659#post74659
8th December 2010, 16:56
May I mention a book called 'Patterns of Eternity - Sacred Geometry and the Starcut Diagram' ? It has been well reviewed (cf Nexus "Euclid, Plato and Pythagoras would surely approve of Stewart's profound and original work." -- Nexus New Times, April-May 2010) It introduces a lattice that has hardly ever been mentioned before. The 'Flower of Life' is not alone! There's a youtube video (ref. patterns of eternity) of the prologue to the book. I'm biased of course, because I wrote it and having spent around 40 years on the topic I'd like people interested in Sacred Geometry to know about it.
8th December 2010, 17:29
the "flower of life" is an inorganic overlay of distorted physics and geometry...just as our moon is not an organic part of our planets physics...which drunvalo uses as an example of his "sacred geometry"...the ORIGINAL sacred geometry is returning,the new-agey crowd are being drawn in to the false ascension matrix through the FALLEN flower of life geometry and their high preists...wake up!...those teachings are poison...they rely on geometries and distortions such as the Fibonacci lie(FIB OF NO CHI) ..those systems VAMPIRISE organic energies to keep them alive...nature has taken on the FALSE Golden mean and fibonacci as that is the environment it ahs been forcede to evolve within...our TRUE form is much taller,has 12 fingers and toes and is much "lighter",,,the density here is a result of the FALSE geometries and physics that have caused us to be much shorter and have only 10 fingers etc...interestingly some people are being born with 12 toes again...the TRUE geomtries are returning
Drunvalo has been sucked in to the deep layers of the astral heart where the dimensions have been inorganically replicated and he doesn't have the capacity to recognise that as he is working from within an inorganic merkaba thinking it is antural
Drunvalo was fed his info by fallen beings such as THOTH,the same one that fed Aleister Crowley his distorted geomtry and philosophy...yeah ,I know ,many won't get this but some may
I'm not going to argue this on this thread as I have discussed it before and found that some people intuitively know what the sacred geomteries are and others will not have the ability to recognise it and will argue that the planet is reflecting sacred geomtries now...same old FALSE ASCENSION new-agey trick being played on people...
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