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Thinker
8th July 2010, 18:18
BP is murdering us…

In the movie The Green Mile (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0120689/) there is a line; “He killed them with their love.”

BP is killing residents and first responders with their love for the Gulf, Wildlife, Nature, Friends, Family…

Kindra Arnesen (1/2)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RfkDAxIfcUQ

This link was taken down:
Kindra Arnesan - Quoted on PBS Newshour 6/23/2010
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h3bzypjTIWg

The Corporation

http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/1371416
It conducts a psychiatric evaluation of corporate behavior and returns a diagnosis of Sociopath.

Small Sacrifice (1/20)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TTd9op9Je9c
One example of a Narcissistic Sociopath is a woman who shoots her 3 children in an attempt to enter a relationship with a married man who did not want children.

The world seems insane because Narcissists promote Narcissists to leadership positions.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DWoKyyMvgXM

The world seems insane because our “leaders” are not pushing the peoples agenda, they are pushing the Narcissistic agenda.



Ten years ago I stumbled across Narcissism Personality Disorder (NPD) on the internet and it changed my life. Now a day doesn't go by that I find sites put up by victims or by health organizations on NPD. My goal in creating this site was to dispel the mystery of psychiatry so that victims can seek help. Narcissists will discourage you from looking into mental diseases because they are afraid you will find out about them. When you understand narcissists, it becomes easier to deal with them. They are the simply the most immature people on earth. They are pancake people, superficial, running around trying to puff themselves up, always looking for people to exploit and for people to admire them.

It is not easy dealing with narcissists. You have to be an adult when they are running around acting like kids - it demands wisdom and strength. Narcissists exploit weakness, or they create it in people. They are charming. They make you feel you are the greatest, they make you dependent on their approval. I have known good narcissist and toxic narcissists. Understanding them and yourself is the only way to survive. Don't criticize them (see why here) (http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/1998/07/980720081130.htm). Remember that knowledge is not wisdom - wisdom is the ability to make the right choices.

Definitions

Narcissism, as in excessive or erotic interest in oneself and one's physical appearance. noun (See egotism) definition:
Psychology; extreme selfishness, with a grandiose view of one's own talents and a craving for admiration, as characterizing a personality type.
Psychoanalysis; self-centeredness arising from failure to distinguish the self from external objects, either in very young babies or as a feature of mental disorder.

Someone with Narcissistic Personality disorder (NPD) has at least 5 of these symptoms:

Controlling behaviors (trying to control how you spend your time, who you talk to, how you dress, etc.)
An unwillingness to reflect on his/her own behaviors
has a sense of entitlement, i.e., unreasonable expectations of especially favorable treatment or automatic compliance with his or her expectations
lacks empathy: is unwilling to recognize or identify with the feelings and needs of others
is interpersonally exploitative, i.e., takes advantage of others to achieve his or her own ends
An attitude that demonstrates "the world revolves around me" and "you need to cater to my ideas, opinions, thoughts, and feelings."
Expecting you to take responsibility for making him/her feel better about him/herself
Not taking responsibility for angry behavior and justifying angry outbursts
Blaming you for behaviors or feelings (i.e., "YOU made me do this," or "YOU made me feel this way.")
has a grandiose sense of self-importance (e.g., exaggerates achievements and talents, expects to be recognized as superior without commensurate achievements)
is preoccupied with fantasies of unlimited success, power, brilliance, beauty, or ideal love
believes that he or she is "special" and unique and can only be understood by, or should associate with, other special or high-status people (or institutions)
requires excessive admiration
is often envious of others or believes that others are envious of him or her
shows arrogant, haughty behaviors or attitudes
Jealousy and possessiveness
Excessive need to feel special, adored, loved, appreciated, or admired
Rage attacks when you do not sufficiently meet his/her needs
Inflated self-esteem, or grandiosity (bragging, "fishing" for compliments)
Dramatic, insecure behaviors


The compassionate thing to do for the mentally ill is to protect them from harming themselves and others.

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greybeard
8th July 2010, 18:32
Basically you are describing the actions of ego which we all have to a greater or lesser degree.
if your are interested the subject is covered in the thread "Ego what is it? How to transcend" in the spiritual section.
Best to start page one as that sets the context.
The ego is responsible for every war, every negative act, since time began.
Winston Churchill described history as "One damned thing after another"
Regards
Chris

RedeZra
8th July 2010, 19:15
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no wait just a min can't I even say that the OP got it right


Edit: No way it's a conspiracy! Everything is fine. Go buy more things!

Thinker
9th July 2010, 02:39
Basically you are describing the actions of ego which we all have to a greater or lesser degree.
if your are interested the subject is covered in the thread "Ego what is it? How to transcend" in the spiritual section.
Best to start page one as that sets the context.
The ego is responsible for every war, every negative act, since time began.
Winston Churchill described history as "One damned thing after another"
Regards
Chris

Chris,

I thank you for your reply. I think I need to point out some things:
“Ego” is a Freudian term and since I discovered his Alpha and Beta patients both committed suicide I’m not much of a fan.
I’m also very disappointed by the life’s work of Edward Bernays (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edward_Bernays) Freud’s nephew.
Freud advocated suppressing the dark side of being human. I believe; what we resist persists. This is not an invitation for abhorrent behavior. When we renounce something we are tied to it. We give it as much energy as we use to suppress it. We must receive our daemons. To fight evil with violence will make us evil.
To say NPD is like ego is like saying Alcoholics Anonymous is like a social club.
NPD subjects do not seek out transformation.

While it is true we all possess Narcissism (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Narcissism) to greater or lesser degrees. NPD (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Narcissistic_personality_disorder) at the level of Donald Rumsfeld, Dick Cheney, or a Rockefeller is pathological (http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/pathological). I don’t think you are wrong, just significantly understating NPD. Although it is possible to teach Charlie Manson (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charlie_Manson) and Donald Rumsfeld to bake brownies, you may want to check Charlie’s for Arsenic (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arsenic) and Donald’s for Aspartame (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aspartame) before eating them.

The compassionate thing to do for the mentally ill is to protect them from harming themselves and others.

If Charlie Manson can be protected from harming others (jailed) for deceiving his followers into carryout his instructions, why can’t Dick, Donald, Carl, George, John, Bill, Warren, Evelyn, etc… After all it’s not as if there aren’t enough FEMA camps to hold them all.

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unplugged
9th July 2010, 03:54
. . . While it is true we all possess Narcissism to greater or lesser degrees. NPD at the level of Donald Rumsfeld, Dick Cheney, or a Rockefeller is pathological. I don’t think you are wrong, just significantly understating NPD. Although it is possible to teach Charlie Manson and Donald Rumsfeld to bake brownies, you may want to check Charlie’s for Arsenic and Donald’s for Aspartame before eating them.

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Great analogy!

I understand the distinction you're making between "ego" as it informs human being-ness and psychopathy, as it informs certain egos seemingly saturated with dark, depraved, intentionally cruel, despotic, sadistic behaviors.

The more I witness the actions of those involved in the Gulf disaster the more I am convinced that this has become the "work-around" for poisoning the planet. They offered us injections of Swine-Flu to which the majority said "No thank you." Unable to target their depraved indifference on humanoid life-forms they have resorted to a level of life-form extinction the likes of which I would not have believed possible were I not witnessing it from my vantage point within this body.

To compare the truly depraved "things" masquerading in human form with ego is like comparing the Gestapo to Girlscouts, claiming equivalence because they both start with the letter "G."

-unplugged

greybeard
9th July 2010, 20:04
Chris,

I thank you for your reply. I think I need to point out some things:
“Ego” is a Freudian term and since I discovered his Alpha and Beta patients both committed suicide I’m not much of a fan.
I’m also very disappointed by the life’s work of Edward Bernays (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edward_Bernays) Freud’s nephew.
Freud advocated suppressing the dark side of being human. I believe; what we resist persists. This is not an invitation for abhorrent behavior. When we renounce something we are tied to it. We give it as much energy as we use to suppress it. We must receive our daemons. To fight evil with violence will make us evil.
To say NPD is like ego is like saying Alcoholics Anonymous is like a social club.
NPD subjects do not seek out transformation.

While it is true we all possess Narcissism (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Narcissism) to greater or lesser degrees. NPD (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Narcissistic_personality_disorder) at the level of Donald Rumsfeld, Dick Cheney, or a Rockefeller is pathological (http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/pathological). I don’t think you are wrong, just significantly understating NPD. Although it is possible to teach Charlie Manson (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charlie_Manson) and Donald Rumsfeld to bake brownies, you may want to check Charlie’s for Arsenic (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arsenic) and Donald’s for Aspartame (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aspartame) before eating them.

The compassionate thing to do for the mentally ill is to protect them from harming themselves and others.

If Charlie Manson can be protected from harming others (jailed) for deceiving his followers into carryout his instructions, why can’t Dick, Donald, Carl, George, John, Bill, Warren, Evelyn, etc… After all it’s not as if there aren’t enough FEMA camps to hold them all.

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Im certainly not in disagreement with anything you have written, it is a massive subject.
The ego thread has rumbled on for two years between original Avalon and here.
Spiritual definition is different from Freud but related non the less.
Regards Chris

shiva777
9th July 2010, 20:13
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/New-cap-ships-could-contain-apf-3576432334.html?x=0&sec=topStories&pos=main&asset=&ccode=

Etherios
9th July 2010, 20:43
Well now that ppl say that we might be near the end of the spill... anyone have any info about the damage done already and estimates of how long and how far this will reach/effect?

i mean if we already have million barrels of oil already spilled and a few tons of disperants then what should we expect? years of dead gulf sea and years of toxic earth all around it?

We will start seeing ppl deing or will this be hidden again from the rest of us...??

theguardian
10th July 2010, 02:20
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no wait just a min can't I even say that the OP got it right


Edit: No way it's a conspiracy! Everything is fine. Go buy more things!

Is This A joke?

cosmiclightworker
10th July 2010, 22:26
Is This A joke?


I think it is LOL

Mulder
12th July 2010, 07:04
The Problem with DSM (Diagnostic & statistical manual of Mental Disorders) is that there are thousands of them (when all sub-types are included) so everyone can be diagnosed with something. Remember how the Soviet Union called Capitalists "insane?" But on the other hand, there are extreme cases of egotistical people in control of the World now, where they should be stopped from harming themselves & others.
Most young college students people show signs of NPD - especially in their views of their great career they "deserve" and "don't need to work for".

Thinker
13th July 2010, 19:46
The Problem with DSM (Diagnostic & statistical manual of Mental Disorders) is that there are thousands of them (when all sub-types are included) so everyone can be diagnosed with something. Remember how the Soviet Union called Capitalists "insane?" But on the other hand, there are extreme cases of egotistical people in control of the World now, where they should be stopped from harming themselves & others.
Most young college students people show signs of NPD - especially in their views of their great career they "deserve" and "don't need to work for".

I’m not asking you to create a new system for separating NPD. I’m asking you to recognize who we put in power and are you going to continue to perpetuate their power with your obedience?