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Zillah
4th January 2012, 20:13
http://cdn.the2012scenario.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/alex-collier.jpg

Robert Stanley will be interviewing Alex Collier on the Unicus Radio Hour this Thursday, January 5:

http://www.blogtalkradio.com/unicus/2012/01/06/the-unicus-radio-hour

The same link allows access to the archive of the show.

Alex is a contactee who provided us with much useful info0rmation on the Andromedan civilization. While we think of prominent people in the field as somehow making a great deal of profit from their endeavors, in actual fact many of them may find themselves excluded from useful work and may suffer financially for the role they play. Certainly Alex has paid a heavy price for his contributions.

crosby
4th January 2012, 21:57
thank you Zillah, i will definitely be watching. i really like alex collier.
regards, corson

sidh25
5th January 2012, 01:37
2012.....?

DreamsInDigital
5th January 2012, 02:03
2012.....?
What do you mean? This Thursday he will be on, ofcourse talking about what lays ahead in 2012 and answering questions. He's already been on Robert Stanley's Unicus Magazine Talk Radio show twice already. Maybe you could think of some questions to ask him. :)

WhiteFeather
5th January 2012, 02:10
Thursday Peeps

schneider
5th January 2012, 02:25
I hope Alex is doing better. I can't wait to hear what he has to say and if it jibes with what Tolec has been saying.(andromedacouncil.com)

aranuk
5th January 2012, 02:36
I can't hear tonights broadcast with that link.

Stan

apokalypse
5th January 2012, 03:15
can't wait! i have go through other guys messages like David Icke-Max Magan-Bob Dean..ect but it doesn't connect with me close as Alex Collier. he's one of the guy i want to sit down have a coffee with.

DreamsInDigital
5th January 2012, 03:50
I hope Alex is doing better. I can't wait to hear what he has to say and if it jibes with what Tolec has been saying.(andromedacouncil.com)
He is doing better for sure, if you check the last two times he has been on RS's radio show, you can hear the most recent updates, and he does talk to and interact with Tolec a little bit both times. I think the basic difference between the two is that Alex has always been talking to The Zenetea, which come from a star system that orbits the star Mirach in the Andromedan Constellation. While Tolec is pretty much talking to Pleiadians, both races are from The Andromedan Council , just the different races would have slightly different informations and I think that's why there are few times where the stuff doesn't line up between Alex and Tolec. But for the most part it completely does align.

I can't hear tonights broadcast with that link.

Stan
Its not until tomorrow night, Thursday. Today is Wednesday. You have to listen when it's Thursday evening in the East Coast of The United States.

truth4me
5th January 2012, 04:22
can't wait! i have go through other guys messages like David Icke-Max Magan-Bob Dean..ect but it doesn't connect with me close as Alex Collier. he's one of the guy i want to sit down have a coffee with.yes, I agree with you. Some of the" off the record" stuff would be great.

aranuk
5th January 2012, 04:30
I hope Alex is doing better. I can't wait to hear what he has to say and if it jibes with what Tolec has been saying.(andromedacouncil.com)
He is doing better for sure, if you check the last two times he has been on RS's radio show, you can hear the most recent updates, and he does talk to and interact with Tolec a little bit both times. I think the basic difference between the two is that Alex has always been talking to The Zenetea, which come from a star system that orbits the star Mirach in the Andromedan Constellation. While Tolec is pretty much talking to Pleiadians, both races are from The Andromedan Council , just the different races would have slightly different informations and I think that's why there are few times where the stuff doesn't line up between Alex and Tolec. But for the most part it completely does align.

I can't hear tonights broadcast with that link.

Stan
Its not until tomorrow night, Thursday. Today is Wednesday. You have to listen when it's Thursday evening in the East Coast of The United States.

Silly me again

Stan

DreamsInDigital
5th January 2012, 04:35
No worries, Stan. It's ok.

For those that haven't yet, I suggest at least listening to the other two times that he has been on RS's site Blog Talk Radio, so you can at least be most caught up to date with the "current" happenings.

Taurean
5th January 2012, 06:31
Just found this ;-

EfasayRSB0k

DreamsInDigital
5th January 2012, 06:40
Good Find Taurean, there should be one more as he's done two so far recently on Robert Stanley's Blog Talk Radio. :)

bennycog
5th January 2012, 11:58
2012.....?
What do you mean? This Thursday he will be on, ofcourse talking about what lays ahead in 2012 and answering questions. He's already been on Robert Stanley's Unicus Magazine Talk Radio show twice already. Maybe you could think of some questions to ask him. :)

Tell me !
Truthfulllllllly. When should i start to bring my family together? (not that i'm not trying). so i can have them ready for a change that i/we can only help them with?
Who has 90% + of the puzzle pieces together, in and out of the alternative community?
........ Thanks....... Easy answer is quite welcome.... Long answer is also welcome, for the prosperity of the alternative community who is indulged in finding it for themselves..

schneider
5th January 2012, 14:50
thanks dreamsindigital. i listened to the december radio show with alex,tolec and robert and i must say it was one of the best shows i have heard. the people calling in to the show were awesome as well. can't wait to here the show tonight

DreamsInDigital
5th January 2012, 16:35
@ Benny
No one has all the pieces of the puzzle. Even my best advice is only coming from experience etc and what my feelings are, and what knowledge I carry. And, I can say we are going to experience a lot of changes this year. Some are going to be bad, some are going to be positive and some middle of the road. Even, what Alex Collier has laid out in his past two interviews on RS's show has been primarily what he's been saying all along. No one is going to come down and save our asses, we have to be our own saviors. Learn to respect our selves and eachother, etc. That things are eventually going to get better, but the fight isn't over yet. Which it's not. I strongly suggest you and others listen to the past two interviews he's done on RS's Blog Talk Radio. Taurean was kind and generous enough to post one of them. The other is available on RS's Unicusmagazine site. I have to say it's one of the reasons I've respected Alex Collier all along, he doesn't toss out all this "love and light" stuff, he sticks very much in reality and very middle of the road. And, he's never claimed to in anyway know 100% of everything, but shares with us what he does know. Plus he doesn't give out predictions, only Probabilities and Possibilities, with the hope that we are all capable of understanding one of the most basic laws of the Universe "Things Change." He's never claimed to be a prophet and never turned this into a money making adventure. That's Integrity.

@ Schneider

I agree! I hope Tolec and Alex get the opportunity to talk more again this time. It's so interesting listening to two different Andromedan Council contactees. I would love to see them doing more together in the future. It's always interesting listening to them compare notes from their different contacts. I hope some people from the boards here call into the show tonight and ask some interesting questions, really get those boys talking. :)

WhiteFeather
6th January 2012, 00:48
Bumping, The show starts at 8:00 Peeps

WhiteFeather
6th January 2012, 00:54
Speed bump 6 minutes to Collier.

WhiteFeather
6th January 2012, 00:58
2 minutes to collier.

watchZEITGEISTnow
6th January 2012, 01:06
lol did you hear the start of the show - classic lol

ITS on now!! :)

DreamsInDigital
6th January 2012, 02:07
This has been a really great show so far, for those that have missed it it is DEFINITELY worth listening to when it's available in the archive.

kimmie
6th January 2012, 03:13
I thought I missed hearing this interview because I clicked on the link at the last minute of the shows when they were saying their good byes. Luckily the archives are up already. That's super exciting! So happy! Thanks for posting Zillah!

Snowbird
6th January 2012, 03:21
Below is the web site associated with Frank O'Collins who is mentioned by Alex Collier on tonight's radio interview. This site is huge and contains voluminous amounts of reading material. The video is an audio lecture by Frank O'Collins that concerns trusts. Alex mentioned that there are three main trusts (explained on the video) and also something termed The Law which I haven't run across as yet.

Happy reading!

United Society of Free States of Spirits

http://one-heaven.org/


UCADIA: Frank O'Collins Explains Trusts

jxm2NXsWM3E

gooty64
6th January 2012, 03:21
Probably the highlight/lowlight of the show was Alex Collier cautioning that something may be imminent in the pacific. Affecting Indonesia, Japan and all Pacific coastlines including North American.
He said that the pent up energy has been being released through volcanic activity for awhile now. But that there may be a major release of energy through seismic/e.q. event soon.
weak paraphrase-sorry

WhiteFeather
6th January 2012, 03:33
I was the last caller tonight, just made it.

DreamsInDigital
6th January 2012, 03:40
Probably the highlight/lowlight of the show was Alex Collier cautioning that something may be imminent in the pacific. Affecting Indonesia, Japan and all Pacific coastlines including North American.
He said that the pent up energy has been being released through volcanic activity for awhile now. But that there may be a major release of energy through seismic/e.q. event soon.
weak paraphrase-sorry
In the earthquakes forum here on the boards, there are several Japan Quakes, and others on the pacific plate in the past day or two alone. Certainly corroborates what Alex was saying about the pacific plate cracking and all. I think for anyone that has missed this one, it's definitely worth listening to. He really got a LOT of new information out this time.

onawah
6th January 2012, 04:05
Here is the link for Robert Stanley's blog about the Archons, which begins with a long quote from Carlos Castenada's teacher Don Juan Matus.
http://www.unicusmagazine.com/skyfish.htm
I studied those books for quite a few years, and this part about the Archons always freaked me out and overwhelmed me so much, I just couldn't deal with it.
It feels like it's time to deal with it.

I got to ask Alex a question tonight too. I asked about the Paa Tal, a subject which has fascinated me since I first heard about them from Alex.
Unfortunately, he could not tell us more.
He implied that the information is being withheld from him because it would not be safe to disclose, which makes sense.

Robert asked Alex if he would come back again soon on the radio show, and Alex agreed.
There were a lot of callers that didn't get on the show because of technical difficulties, so Robert wanted to give everyone an opportunity.

I like it that the emphasis was so much about the "innernet", finding our strength within and taking our power back.
But it's also really good to get more news about the ETs who are here to help us.
:ufo:

watchZEITGEISTnow
6th January 2012, 04:12
These guys remind me of the Archons
jSpowoKqSzc

Pre-Matrix btw ;)

Very interesting movie if I do say so.

Alex was awesome as usual.

Alex's book site http://www.zenmountainpublishing.com/

etm567
6th January 2012, 04:18
I got to ask Alex a question tonight too. I asked about the Paa Tal, a subject which has fascinated me since I first heard about them from Alex.


Doesn't Edgar Cayce talk about the Paa Tal? Or is it in the Law of One? Isn't it in at least one of those places?

ETM

DreamsInDigital
6th January 2012, 04:50
I got to ask Alex a question tonight too. I asked about the Paa Tal, a subject which has fascinated me since I first heard about them from Alex.


Doesn't Edgar Cayce talk about the Paa Tal? Or is it in the Law of One? Isn't it in at least one of those places?

ETM
I believe it's the Law of One that Edgar Cacey Talks about, unless I'm wrong The Paa Tal are pretty 'exclusive' to Alex Collier. Or atleast I haven't heard them mentioned out side of his information.

onawah
6th January 2012, 05:09
It seems to me I did run across the name Paa Tal in the Law of One somewhere (though I could be wrong), but I cannot remember the context now, and I don't think the subject was discussed much at all, or if they were described in a way similar to Alex Collier's description.
Possibly a search on the Law of One site would bring up something.




I got to ask Alex a question tonight too. I asked about the Paa Tal, a subject which has fascinated me since I first heard about them from Alex.


Doesn't Edgar Cayce talk about the Paa Tal? Or is it in the Law of One? Isn't it in at least one of those places?

ETM

jcocks
6th January 2012, 05:22
These guys remind me of the Archons
jSpowoKqSzc

Pre-Matrix btw ;)

Very interesting movie if I do say so.

Alex was awesome as usual.

Alex's book site http://www.zenmountainpublishing.com/

Totally agree with you there, they do remind me of the archons as well.... And, IMHO, Dark City is a better movie than Matrix by far... Just a pity they never did any sequels.

DreamsInDigital
6th January 2012, 06:05
It seems to me I did run across the name Paa Tal in the Law of One somewhere (though I could be wrong), but I cannot remember the context now. and I don't think the subject was discussed much at all, or if they were described in a way similar to Alex Collier's description.
Possibly a search on the Law of One site would bring up something.

It's possible? I just don't remember there being mentioned in Edgar Cacey or Law Of One Material that of the Paa Tal. I think how ever there has been some Law of One stuff possibly mentioned among Alex Collier's lectures, but it's very consistent throughout the galaxy at least on the higher densities. Have you read his book (alex's) Defending Sacred Ground ~ The Andromedan Compendium? That seems to cover a good part on the Paa Tal, also some of the more obscure lectures on Youtube has them mentioned.

Zillah
6th January 2012, 06:11
GOOD to see the response from everyone. I had to run out the door 1/4 through so Im listening to the archived recording now - thank you for the recaps, my family members bombarded me as I walked in through the door, telling me to rethink my purchase of BC property on Vanc Island (Pacific) this summer. IM STAMMERING as I write this, we shall see I guess - no trouble in waiting and being safe - altho Im not 100% sure of what to make of it just yet, ahh decisions decisions.

DreamsInDigital
6th January 2012, 06:13
I think waiting is a good idea, I keep telling my family the same thing, to wait.

Zillah
6th January 2012, 06:15
I think waiting is a good idea, I keep telling my family the same thing, to wait.

I hear you - after all, I hear pieces of land will also start to rise, that actually means new places to live and explore in the world -- its as equally devastating as it is exciting.

DreamsInDigital
6th January 2012, 07:23
I think waiting is a good idea, I keep telling my family the same thing, to wait.

I hear you - after all, I hear pieces of land will also start to rise, that actually means new places to live and explore in the world -- its as equally devastating as it is exciting.
Yeah, totally. There must be balance so there will be positive and non-positive things to come out of this situation. As well as the new lands rising and such, as even Mr Collier has said. There are so many things unsettled and undecided about this year, and so many changes. This is a great time to be focusing on inner-self and winning the battle that still is yet not won. I noticed there were several 5. something earth quakes in the past few days along the pacific plate. I had suspected something other than what it was, but once Mr. Collier pointed out it was do to the Benevolent forces trying to "smooth out the shifting of the crust" I understood.

onawah
6th January 2012, 07:54
Yes, I think I read Defending Sacred Ground, and I've seen and/or heard all his interviews on the Net, I believe.

I take it all with liberal helpings of salt, but I like Collier as a person, and his friend Robert Stanley too. They are very down to earth and open, and their attitude is refreshing.



It seems to me I did run across the name Paa Tal in the Law of One somewhere (though I could be wrong), but I cannot remember the context now. and I don't think the subject was discussed much at all, or if they were described in a way similar to Alex Collier's description.
Possibly a search on the Law of One site would bring up something.

It's possible? I just don't remember there being mentioned in Edgar Cacey or Law Of One Material that of the Paa Tal. I think how ever there has been some Law of One stuff possibly mentioned among Alex Collier's lectures, but it's very consistent throughout the galaxy at least on the higher densities. Have you read his book (alex's) Defending Sacred Ground ~ The Andromedan Compendium? That seems to cover a good part on the Paa Tal, also some of the more obscure lectures on Youtube has them mentioned.

Chucky
6th January 2012, 08:05
Yeah I was on too. Sadly it was my hell time trying I can tell you now. I am the Chuck he talks to. I was actually the second one on and I had a good quick hello with Robert whilst Alex was talking with the lady. Seperate lines. My first mistake and of course I was put on hold.
Later the guy from another radio show gave advice on using the skype symbol on the show and not direct dial in. This worked. I was on hold for an hour. This is weird and no doubt in my mind says something. I managed to have a intro and hello to the guys. I asked my question about will our friends intervene if Iran is attacked. Just as Alex started to answer my question my computer started shutting down. I have listened to his answer only now cause I downloaded it. I like the answer but I was shut off. :dizzy:
My PC just shut down. Problems trying to get on in the first place and then this. I agree Robert Stanley that I was shut off. Weird aye? I got it out though!!! :)
Thanks to Alex and Robert I appreciate the chat..




I was the last caller tonight, just made it.

¤=[Post Update]=¤

Also here is the link again in case one doesn't work etc. http://www.blogtalkradio.com/unicus/2012/01/06/the-unicus-radio-hour just under the radio bar is a link to save the show. only about 28mb. Go for it people and share with friends..

Chucky
6th January 2012, 08:19
I sincerely hope for all of us that we can stop the madness of this revalations scenario being carried out on us. I can't help but feel this is an injury the world doesn't need and can cripple our efforts that we as a race can achieve helping eachother with the earth changes. My God I pray honestly that the whitehats or generals standing next to the nuts that order the strike on Iran, are refused and instantly put in chains to prevent un-necessary deaths. I really mean that in a positive sense. I ask the question because I feel this is it folks. War on a major scale and we get side tracked from organising for the changes. Frustrating I know..

ViralSpiral
6th January 2012, 09:26
I enjoyed that very much Zillah. Thank you (and all contributors) so much for sharing.

I ♥ Alex Collier!

crosby
6th January 2012, 09:43
Zillah, thanks so much for posting this. this really is an awesome interview.
regards, corson

Snowbird
7th January 2012, 03:12
I heard the voices of three people on this thread alone during that radio program plus one former member. It's nice to be able to put a voice to the on line words.

The archived program version is ten times easier to listen to than the original. I learned so much from this interview. What I found most amazing, was the information about the Pacific plates. That, got my attention!

Daft Ada
7th January 2012, 11:58
Excellent thank you, I enjoyed that. :-)

Calz
7th January 2012, 12:50
Thanks to everyone for bringing attention to this interview ... quite interesting. :thank_you2:

Amidst some of the more important information already highlighted in the thread I appreciated one of his moments of mirth when he voiced his wish to be a "valet" to "park" all the massive numbers of craft between Venus and Mars right now. Tips would be great.

:dirol::ufo:


Happy to hear (again) there is "hope" regarding ditching the monetary system :)

OnyxKnight
4th February 2012, 22:38
http://cdn.the2012scenario.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/alex-collier.jpg

Robert Stanley will be interviewing Alex Collier on the Unicus Radio Hour this Thursday, January 5:

http://www.blogtalkradio.com/unicus/2012/01/06/the-unicus-radio-hour

The same link allows access to the archive of the show.

Alex is a contactee who provided us with much useful info0rmation on the Andromedan civilization. While we think of prominent people in the field as somehow making a great deal of profit from their endeavors, in actual fact many of them may find themselves excluded from useful work and may suffer financially for the role they play. Certainly Alex has paid a heavy price for his contributions.

Video is gone ....

WhiteFeather
4th February 2012, 22:42
Yes, i was looking for it myself, i was the last caller on this show. Maybe Robert Stanley editor of Unicus magazine, knows how to locate it or its whereabouts. Thanks Onyx. Im gonna send him an email.

bodhii71
4th February 2012, 22:48
Video removed by user....
Just found this ;-

EfasayRSB0k

OnyxKnight
4th February 2012, 22:50
Yes, i was looking for it myself, i was the last caller on this show. Maybe Robert Stanley editor of Unicus magazine, knows how to locate it or its whereabouts. Thanks Onyx. Im gonna send him an email.

Thanks White Feather - There has been some campaign to remove three particular videos of Alex.

I cant seem to find this third one anywhere now.

Robert Stanley has removed it as well - i think he said he was threatened?

WhiteFeather
4th February 2012, 23:14
Yes, i was looking for it myself, i was the last caller on this show. Maybe Robert Stanley editor of Unicus magazine, knows how to locate it or its whereabouts. Thanks Onyx. Im gonna send him an email.

Thanks White Feather - There has been some campaign to remove three particular videos of Alex.

I cant seem to find this third one anywhere now.

Robert Stanley has removed it as well - i think he said he was threatened?

Thanks, I'm gonna send him an email now. I will let you know when i get a response.

OnyxKnight
4th February 2012, 23:19
Okay this is the only video I'm missing now. If anyone finds it, let me know.

watchZEITGEISTnow
4th February 2012, 23:28
Yes, i was looking for it myself, i was the last caller on this show. Maybe Robert Stanley editor of Unicus magazine, knows how to locate it or its whereabouts. Thanks Onyx. Im gonna send him an email.

Thanks White Feather - There has been some campaign to remove three particular videos of Alex.

I cant seem to find this third one anywhere now.

Robert Stanley has removed it as well - i think he said he was threatened?

http://www.filedropper.com/alexcollierthe-unicus-radio-hourjanuary6of2012

¤=[Post Update]=¤

http://www.alexcollier.org/


What Happened To The Three Latest Interviews?…
By Alex Collier dot org on Thursday, February 2nd, 2012 | No Comments

I have been receiving messages of late relating to the lack of completeness of the AlexCollier.org website.

Unfortunately due to unknown reasons I have been ordered, with threat of legal action, with specific relation to having this site shut down if I didn’t comply immediately, to remove the links to the radio interviews dated 29th October 2011, 8th December 2011 and 6th January 2012. I have also been ordered to remove the name of, and links to the radio show host. Therefore, you will need to do a search on the Internet for any other links to this content as I am unable to provide them here. Find them, and listen to them before they are removed from Internet history.

I don’t know what exactly has transpired, but its a sad and sorry state of affairs if you ask me. Whatever the reason for this censorship the truth shall eventually prevail. Down with Censorship!

OnyxKnight
4th February 2012, 23:34
Yes, i was looking for it myself, i was the last caller on this show. Maybe Robert Stanley editor of Unicus magazine, knows how to locate it or its whereabouts. Thanks Onyx. Im gonna send him an email.

Thanks White Feather - There has been some campaign to remove three particular videos of Alex.

I cant seem to find this third one anywhere now.

Robert Stanley has removed it as well - i think he said he was threatened?

http://www.filedropper.com/alexcollierthe-unicus-radio-hourjanuary6of2012

¤=[Post Update]=¤

http://www.alexcollier.org/


What Happened To The Three Latest Interviews?…
By Alex Collier dot org on Thursday, February 2nd, 2012 | No Comments

I have been receiving messages of late relating to the lack of completeness of the AlexCollier.org website.

Unfortunately due to unknown reasons I have been ordered, with threat of legal action, with specific relation to having this site shut down if I didn’t comply immediately, to remove the links to the radio interviews dated 29th October 2011, 8th December 2011 and 6th January 2012. I have also been ordered to remove the name of, and links to the radio show host. Therefore, you will need to do a search on the Internet for any other links to this content as I am unable to provide them here. Find them, and listen to them before they are removed from Internet history.

I don’t know what exactly has transpired, but its a sad and sorry state of affairs if you ask me. Whatever the reason for this censorship the truth shall eventually prevail. Down with Censorship!



Thanks for uploading but .... cannot download?

watchZEITGEISTnow
4th February 2012, 23:37
Scroll to the grey download button and click then add the characters in the box when it appears eg "DT6Y" and should start downloading - works for me.

OnyxKnight
4th February 2012, 23:45
Scroll to the grey download button and click then add the characters in the box when it appears eg "DT6Y" and should start downloading - works for me.

I did - and it downloaded for only one second. The file I have cannot be played too ...

OnyxKnight
4th February 2012, 23:48
.... And this is why I guess - "MP3 Format Sound (0 bytes)"

DreamsInDigital
4th February 2012, 23:55
Apparently they've also been removed off the Unicus Radio Magazine site also.

WhiteFeather
4th February 2012, 23:58
What part of that video do you think triggered the removal? The Pacific Plates Perhaps.

OnyxKnight
5th February 2012, 00:04
Thanks Zeitgeist - but i seem to be downloading 0 bytes? I did what you suggested by the way. Something wrong with the upload maybe?

WhiteFeather
5th February 2012, 00:07
Thanks Zeitgeist - but i seem to be downloading 0 bytes? I did what you suggested by the way. Something wrong with the upload maybe?

Onyx if you get it please share it with us, thanks.

DreamsInDigital
5th February 2012, 00:11
If it's the pacific plates stuff, they don't want people knowing that when they can get away with using their HAARP or blame it on terrorist. He probably hit to close to home on something....

OnyxKnight
5th February 2012, 01:34
This is the reply I got from that guy who had the video set to private:


stanley/collier

hi.
robert doesn't want those interviews with alex publicly available anymore. he gave me the reason confidentially so i must honor that and not tell you. however, you can always email robert directly and ask him yourself. his email address is below:

editor@unicusmagazine.com


thanks for watching
pr

So looks like Robert is somehow involved with this removal campaign ..... really nice ......

DreamsInDigital
5th February 2012, 01:35
I would suggest then emailing Robert and asking at least for copy of it? For "personal" use?

jcocks
5th February 2012, 01:53
Wow. Rob has even deleted the his blog entries relating to alex collier....

SOmethings' amiss.... Can somebody please ring his radio program and ask what's going on?

Snowbird
5th February 2012, 02:04
My PA friends, deep down inside each of us, we have known that these types of unfortunate circumstances would occur during this year, 2012. Their time is running out and they must pack as many threats and closures into the rest of this year as possible. Robert is right in following their orders. I believe that Alex and his family are safe and secure. Let's keep both Robert and family and Alex and family in our protective thoughts and meditations. These are good people.

apokalypse
5th February 2012, 02:14
this is interesting, Robert Stanley removed anything related to Alex Collier on his Unicus blog http://www.unicusmagazine.com/blog/ ...everything removed. what really happen?

DreamsInDigital
5th February 2012, 02:36
maybe they had a falling out or something.

OnyxKnight
5th February 2012, 02:48
After 30 years of friendship (as they both claimed)?

That sure has to be one very damn good reason....

DreamsInDigital
5th February 2012, 03:08
Just a theory. Unless someone , threatened Robert Stanley. Why else would he remove all evidence of their connection etc? Specially so abruptly. I don't think he would cave so quickly to CIA/Spook pressures.

watchZEITGEISTnow
5th February 2012, 03:39
gimme a sec...

Snowbird
5th February 2012, 03:40
Just a theory. Unless someone , threatened Robert Stanley. Why else would he remove all evidence of their connection etc? Specially so abruptly. I don't think he would cave so quickly to CIA/Spook pressures.

I don't think that they had a falling out. But I do think that R. S. was threatened and that he did what he knew would protect all concerned.

watchZEITGEISTnow
5th February 2012, 03:45
http://kiwi6.com/file/gge8ucx5m5 = Alex Collier The-unicus-radio-hour January 6 Of 2012.mp3

Click on "Download MP3"

watchZEITGEISTnow
5th February 2012, 04:00
http://kiwi6.com/file/f8s5019nne = Alex Collier The-unicus-radio-hour October 28 Of 2011.mp3
http://kiwi6.com/file/bx34p9i70a = Alex Collier The-unicus-radio-hour December 9 Of 2011.mp3

ENJOY~

DreamsInDigital
5th February 2012, 04:02
That's great, thanks for posting those.

watchZEITGEISTnow
5th February 2012, 04:04
No worries - so should I expect black helicopters over the house now? :P

Dunno why you'd remove these - they seem very informational and important for people to hear... any ideas?

DreamsInDigital
5th February 2012, 04:06
Just a theory. Unless someone , threatened Robert Stanley. Why else would he remove all evidence of their connection etc? Specially so abruptly. I don't think he would cave so quickly to CIA/Spook pressures.

I don't think that they had a falling out. But I do think that R. S. was threatened and that he did what he knew would protect all concerned.
Yeah, but one would think his posting of UFO pictures around the White House and Capital would gain more threats than an Alien Contactee spouting off about random bits of information. I personally can't remember any of what was covered in those 'interviews' that would be remotely "damaging" to the PTW plots.

CdnSirian
5th February 2012, 04:09
No longer viewable...

DreamsInDigital
5th February 2012, 04:10
No worries - so should I expect black helicopters over the house now? :P

Dunno why you'd remove these - they seem very informational and important for people to hear... any ideas?
I'm sure the CIA and Spokes that are "messing" with Alex at this point are just being over zealous at this point. Though I still have my suspicions considering even before they were removed or I had heard about this even, that I had got an email from RS asking me not to contact him anymore with questions for or about Alex Collier. Not, that I couldn't contact him. Just not concerning Alex, But I think pretty much everyone got that. I don't think there was anything particularly damaging to the PTW plots, but those Little Fishes that are used to "harass" people and shut them up frequently get to big for their own britches as they say it. And, really just need to be told to back off and stop harassing Alex.

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No longer viewable...
Check the Links WatchZeitgeistnow posted. They're all available there.

jcocks
5th February 2012, 04:14
Well that does it for me. The Andromedans are for real and Alex's message(s) are legit.

Still, Rob should post a short statement on his site to let people know what's happening... People *ARE* going to ask questions because we really do care about Alex. He is one of the very few contactees who have given me "knowing" tingles.....

ponda
5th February 2012, 04:59
Great stuff watchZEITGEISTnow.Much appreciated.Got them downloaded.

Should be interesting to listen to these again after what has transpired.

cheers

DreamsInDigital
5th February 2012, 05:18
Well that does it for me. The Andromedans are for real and Alex's message(s) are legit.

Still, Rob should post a short statement on his site to let people know what's happening... People *ARE* going to ask questions because we really do care about Alex. He is one of the very few contactees who have given me "knowing" tingles.....
I know in the other thread in the UFO's Section, the last 'group' Email RS sent to us is there with two different email contacts for Alex Collier, but I agree it would be nice if RS would post some sort of statement even if he can't say "do to insane threats by CIA pigs." he could say "Do to circumstances beyond my control, I have removed all radio interviews with Alex Collier." Just something from him would be nice. I think this is a good reason though why some of us that are contactees don't come forward or at least in the public sense, it's not that we are worried or bothered about the public's reaction, more that we just don't want to put our lives at risk or be constantly harassed by Little Fishes.

jcocks
5th February 2012, 06:42
Just something from him would be nice. I think this is a good reason though why some of us that are contactees don't come forward or at least in the public sense, it's not that we are worried or bothered about the public's reaction, more that we just don't want to put our lives at risk or be constantly harassed by Little Fishes.

Fair enough, it's just a pity that he's not a stronger person. But, most of us would react the same way if we were threatened. Personally, I am now at a point where I know I am more than my physical body, that I live on after death, and that the spiritual reality is much greater - so I no longer have such an attachment to my physical vehicle. Evidently he does.

He's broken off all contact with the alternative media and public before.... Looks like he's done it again. Never mind, we can all have personal contact with the andromedans if we so desire it - though we may not all remember this contact. We're at the point in our evolution where it is possible, and they WANT us to connect with them so we can subvert the PTB together.

Etherios
5th February 2012, 14:27
i just got a virus from http://www.filedropper.com/alexcolli...january6of2012
.....

DreamsInDigital
5th February 2012, 17:15
Fair enough, it's just a pity that he's not a stronger person. But, most of us would react the same way if we were threatened. Personally, I am now at a point where I know I am more than my physical body, that I live on after death, and that the spiritual reality is much greater - so I no longer have such an attachment to my physical vehicle. Evidently he does.

He's broken off all contact with the alternative media and public before.... Looks like he's done it again. Never mind, we can all have personal contact with the andromedans if we so desire it - though we may not all remember this contact. We're at the point in our evolution where it is possible, and they WANT us to connect with them so we can subvert the PTB together.
I agree, though I don't think it's a lack of strength. It's more a strong sense of self preservation, and lack of protection until someone tells those little fishes to back off. I remember when I was doing psychic detective work, and worked on many missing children cases, got to close on to many Secret Government Kidnappings (not to derail this thread, just pointing something out), and for my own life literally had to give that up all together. And, you're right. We're more than at a point now to contact them on our own. I've been in contact with a couple of ET's myself for 27yrs. It was explained to me that once Terrans move past the "I can't do this" and turn it into "I can do this" as you have, that contact is very easy.

Snowbird
5th February 2012, 21:34
Just a theory. Unless someone , threatened Robert Stanley. Why else would he remove all evidence of their connection etc? Specially so abruptly. I don't think he would cave so quickly to CIA/Spook pressures.

I don't think that they had a falling out. But I do think that R. S. was threatened and that he did what he knew would protect all concerned.
Yeah, but one would think his posting of UFO pictures around the White House and Capital would gain more threats than an Alien Contactee spouting off about random bits of information. I personally can't remember any of what was covered in those 'interviews' that would be remotely "damaging" to the PTW plots.

Well, but when you consider those White House pictures doubled with the random bits of information and the fact that these two have been decades-long friends, I can understand how the threat would reach out to each/both. Had you heard about the Pacific plates cracking or being cracked prior to AC mentioning it? I hadn't. I had heard about the horrendous possibility of Japan. It is possible that AC mentioning these possible PTW plots has curtailed or outright canceled those possible plots....let's hope.

DreamsInDigital
5th February 2012, 21:59
The Pacific Plate as well as the rest of the crust shifting/stretching was briefly mentioned to me by my contacts, but it's not of their direct interest/involvement/mission. So it was an off hand kind of thing, as I had wondered about all the earthquakes. But, beyond that AC was definitely the first otherwise that I had heard of it. And, he was certainly more detailed about it, yet didn't tie into it being PTW related. And, as Japan, et al stands I don't feel really that we have much of anything to worry about at this point. I've seen some of the latest damage that has been done to the PTW and their shennanagens (sp?) I fear nothing from that situation.

Makoto
5th February 2012, 22:26
@ Benny
No one has all the pieces of the puzzle. Even my best advice is only coming from experience etc and what my feelings are, and what knowledge I carry. And, I can say we are going to experience a lot of changes this year. Some are going to be bad, some are going to be positive and some middle of the road. Even, what Alex Collier has laid out in his past two interviews on RS's show has been primarily what he's been saying all along. No one is going to come down and save our asses, we have to be our own saviors. Learn to respect our selves and eachother, etc. That things are eventually going to get better, but the fight isn't over yet. Which it's not. I strongly suggest you and others listen to the past two interviews he's done on RS's Blog Talk Radio. Taurean was kind and generous enough to post one of them. The other is available on RS's Unicusmagazine site. I have to say it's one of the reasons I've respected Alex Collier all along, he doesn't toss out all this "love and light" stuff, he sticks very much in reality and very middle of the road. And, he's never claimed to in anyway know 100% of everything, but shares with us what he does know. Plus he doesn't give out predictions, only Probabilities and Possibilities, with the hope that we are all capable of understanding one of the most basic laws of the Universe "Things Change." He's never claimed to be a prophet and never turned this into a money making adventure. That's Integrity.

@ Schneider

I agree! I hope Tolec and Alex get the opportunity to talk more again this time. It's so interesting listening to two different Andromedan Council contactees. I would love to see them doing more together in the future. It's always interesting listening to them compare notes from their different contacts. I hope some people from the boards here call into the show tonight and ask some interesting questions, really get those boys talking. :)

Alex said his Et group is 5th dimension based and Tolek ( I know that who is regular in UFO local group there and many predictions he boasted did not come true)’s is 3rd dimension base totally different group. According to Alex on the Rob’s redio show. Also Alex said the how tolek describe what happened to underground base is not accurate…basically not true

DreamsInDigital
6th February 2012, 01:35
Yes, I think we had that one already figured out and discussed :) , and actually Tolec's group is 4D. Not 3D. :)

jcocks
6th February 2012, 03:06
Well, I just got a reply from Robert....Wow is all I can say. I won't post what I got back from Rob publically (as Rob also said, I refuse to air his dirty laundry), but am happy to share it via PM if you want to have a read.

However, due to my personal beliefs and inner voice, I still believe the Andromedans exist and that Alex's testimony is largely true. However, I'd be very wary about donating money to the guy until he is willing to come clean to everyone about who he is and what he has done. I might yet do some more research on Alex to make my own mind up as to whether he was "framed" or not - as I know a lot of contactees do have that done to them.....

Hmm... it has given me pause to think, that is for sure...

DreamsInDigital
6th February 2012, 03:13
Certainly I would appreciate if you would send me in a PM what you got back. I can say I know the Andromedans are real/exist if only for my own contacts with the Tau Ceti, they've verified for me that Moraney and Vasaias are real (well Vasaias passed away almost 12yrs ago now) and that for the most part that Alex Collier is a real contactee. Best I can suggest in your research, just check where your resources are you're getting information from. Michael Horn unleashed a nasty unprovoked attack campaign against Alex, and from what I've seen of those that have taken up the train most of what they sling at him comes back to being from/originating with Michael Horn and that guy can not be trusted, also he admitted to putting up false information/lying about Alex and also lying about other stuff. But, that's one whole huge can of worms I'm not getting into, my attention is not needed buried in an Michael Horn / Billy Meier vs' Alex Collier debate.

nomadguy
6th February 2012, 03:18
has anyone ever heard of Joan Hope?
http://www.thelibraryofhope.com/ :ufo:

to note,
http://www.thelibraryofhope.com/ttbookcover.jpg
http://www.thelibraryofhope.com/ttp8.jpg
http://www.thelibraryofhope.com/ufostheuniverseandthetimetravellerswebsite.htm

apokalypse
6th February 2012, 03:39
Michael Horn/Billy vs Alex Collier all over again. so lets start...

jcocks
6th February 2012, 03:43
Yeah I know... I couldn't remember reading the information before though....

As I said, my gut tells me that Alex is telling the truth with regards to the Andromedans, so much of his info *clicks*.... There are many people out there who will do *ANYTHING* to destroy the credibility of a contactee...

I think maybe Alex deserves another outlet to pass his information out there... Who would be willing to provide that outlet, and how do we get in contact with him?

ponda
6th February 2012, 04:20
Yeah I know... I couldn't remember reading the information before though....

As I said, my gut tells me that Alex is telling the truth with regards to the Andromedans, so much of his info *clicks*.... There are many people out there who will do *ANYTHING* to destroy the credibility of a contactee...

I think maybe Alex deserves another outlet to pass his information out there... Who would be willing to provide that outlet, and how do we get in contact with him?


I wouldn't be surprised if Alex has some information that 'they' don't want to be released

watchZEITGEISTnow
6th February 2012, 04:36
http://www.ufohypotheses.com/collier.htm

scroll down a bit to Updated 2009 July 15:
An Open Letter from Alex Collier

Can I see the email please jcocks?

ponda
6th February 2012, 04:44
Here it is watchZEITGEISTnow:



Updated 2009 July 15:
An Open Letter from Alex Collier

July 14, 2009

As many of you are aware, I am being bitterly attacked from the Billy Meier/FIGU camp, especially by their U.S. publicist, Michael Horn. I am being addressed as a liar and a fraud. Apparently, because I changed my name and at most times in my life during on going contacts, I chose to not share this reality with people who were acquaintances. Why would I? You also need to know that I have addressed this issue publicly in earlier lectures years ago. But maybe it’s necessary to deal with it for the last time.

In the early 90's when I came forward, the talks were very small. More like living room chats, just a hand full of people. I stopped speaking in 2002. After being addressed in front of my mailbox by three well dressed men that were part of a "Program", I was told to "Shut the f*#@ up". I was then told that friends were going to be hurt if I did not shut up. The names were given to me. They were not kidding and it wasn't a joke. They were going to kill friends and family members.

Fast forward the internet. I had no idea that the information would go where it has. In 1990 when Morenay had asked me to speak and share "some of my experiences" I reluctantly said yes. I spoke to my Dad regarding this. My dad had an experience of my contacts when we lived in upper state NY. We spoke of it that morning and as my Dad was a strong catholic, his questions were very direct. I felt that if I was going to speak he needed to know. Dad was afraid of what would not only happen to me but our family. My brothers and sisters, and himself by government and religious harassment, etc.... We spoke about using another name to share the information in some way to protect my family.

At times in my life while contacts were on going it has been very difficult and hard to share it. I had a head full of knowledge, and experiences but could not share it. I was told that at those times there was no one I could truly trust. When I did not listen to the “Andromedans”, they would prove to be right. Supposed friends betrayed and stole from me. Enough said about that.

I have shared the information that I was asked to. I don't sell anything. I was told by the Andromedans not to make a business of this in any way. And so I haven't. I have tried very hard to keep a low profile and protect my family from hurt and prejudice, by those who don't give a damn about my family. All they want is to keep their name in lights and beat their chest, by declaring they have the secret and they are the only ones with the truth. That Mr. Billy Meier is the only contactee in the entire world. That’s the lie, Ladies and Gentlemen. Billy is not and nor has he ever been the only one.

I am very saddened that many researchers and authors who have found their own evidence to collaborate information shared by the Andromedans and other races are now being attacked for it. They are also accused of being involved in and perpetrating a fraud. Dr Salla, Paola Harris, and Col.Wendelle Stevens to just name a few. They have tirelessly dedicated themselves to helping humanity. Mr. Horn’s accusations are despicable.

Paola Harris is one of the most honest and sincere persons on earth, whose integrity is beyond reproach. It’s disgusting that she should continue to be abused and harassed by this man only because she interviewed me. She was simply doing her job in the most objective way.

Dr. Salla's efforts to help bring humanity together and see the bigger picture will have a profound effect on humanity in a positive way for decades. And I also feel that Dr Salla's honesty is beyond reproach.

Col. Stevens, whom I met for the first time in Japan, is a real gentleman. He has tirelessly researched contactees for 50 years. His should be the only voice any of us listen to regarding who is a real contactee or not. And his work is probably the largest single contribution to humanity regarding Exopolitics. Point of fact.

Ladies and Gentlemen, I frankly at this point don't care if any of you believe or not. All the research, all of the sacrifices everyone in this field has made and will make is due to endless hours of lost family time, as well as the loss of family and peace of mind. And of course the ridicule from others, who have no clue how huge and important this subject really is. This has been and was done for humanity. This is for us as a race to have a new perspective, a new place to start when the lies of our false history collapse under the weight of truth, that we are not alone and have never been; a revelation that we are so much more than we have been told.

The “lie” is that Billy Meier is the only contactee. And if the "Pleiadians" (excuse me) "The Plejarians" (they changed their name, too), told Billy he was the only one, then they have lied. You must keep this in prospective also as well. There are in fact many contactees in the world. I have been told that there are at least 1,407 at this present moment. You may be one of them yourself. I think we should continue to move forward and help humanity achieve its potential.

Ladies and Gentlemen, in closing I have given what I can. It’s out there and that's what I agreed to do. You can choose to read it, listen to it, and research it or not. The information is the Andromedans' prospective. That's it. I would of course always encourage you to research the field. There is a wealth of information out there by many great dedicated researchers and speakers. NO ONE HAS THE WHOLE STORY. But it’s for you to discover who you are and your place in this drama of conscious and spiritual evolution. Be your own savior. Take the pressure off of GOD and help yourself. The worst case is you will be an inspiration and leader to others, to invest in themselves and see themselves as they truly are: genetic royalty and incredible beings.

I feel it’s necessary to add this last clarification for you. I have no vested interest in this information. And as such I really could care less what anyone thinks. My intention was to share the information and give a different prospective. I have had a lot of growth to go through and am now the father of five. I must put the welfare of my family first and move beyond this sideshow with FIGU/Michael Horn.

I am done with this. Think what you will, but please keep your minds open. It’s the only way your life will work…

Respectfully,
Alex Collier

jcocks
6th February 2012, 06:21
Here's the reply I got from Rob yesterday, make of it what you will....

In any case, it's old info...so I believe that Alex should be given the chance to respond, clear the ar, and get on with communicating with those who will hear him. He certainly comes across to me as very sincere...

=====

2/2/2012
To whom it may concern,
I had a heated exchange with Alex/Ralph on the phone this afternoon (1/30/2012).
He is very upset with me right now for calling his bluff, and he is still claiming to be an innocent victim in this matter despite the data I have acquired about his. You see, I met Michael Horn at the trailer Ralph Amigron's (aka Alex Collier) was renting in Malibu in 1986. Michael Horn is not making the information in this article up. I know for a fact that "Alex" is actually Ralph:
http://www.theyfly.com/newsflash5/THE%20_ALEX_COLLIER_%20HOAX.htm

Here are Court Documents indicting Ralph Amigron/Alex Collier on felony charges:
http://taxpravo.ru/sudebnie_dela/statya-76078-Donald_B_Hawksley_v_Commissioner_United_States_Tax_Court_-#ixzz1klv9blj7
C. Mr. Amigron's Arrest
On May 3, 1991, Mr. Amigron was arrested in California by inspectors of respondent's Internal Security Division in connection with a 4-count felony indictment handed down by a Federal grand jury. The indictment alleged that Mr. Amigron, a former IRS revenue officer, falsely claimed to be a certified public accountant, and an enrolled actuary, and that he knowingly used false Social Security numbers on tax documents. 8

Here is the release record for Ralph Amigron from Federal Prison (his age is entered incorrectly either intentionally or accidentally on this form):

http://www.bop.gov/iloc2/InmateFinderServlet?Transaction=NameSearch&needingMoreList=false&FirstName=ralph&Middle=george&LastName=amigron&Race=W&Sex=M&Age=&x=70&y=13

Here is another personal account re. Ralph changing his name to Alex, using a fake accent, and fabricating information:
https://web.archive.org/web/20110118222330/https://myspace.com/foreverrockandroll/blog/497592416

In summary, Alex is still Ralph who is a convicted felon and con artist. That is the real reason why he can’t find steady work.

In 1991, he changed his name after being released from federal prison and then began lecturing about alleged alien contact.

I forgive him for his deeds, but I will never forget or condone his behavior.

Unfortunately, Alex/Ralph still thinks/claims he is a victim.

However, facts are facts. Ralph/Alex was indicted on 4-felony counts.

He claims he was framed by the IRS, but he has no proof of that.

And as for his claims about the "Andromedan's" he has no proof of that either.

All we can do is take his word for it. But to most sane people, the word of a convicted felon is worthless.

I believe Alex/Ralph should be grateful that I chose not to publicly air all his dirty laundry when I finally figured out who he really was, and what he was doing, and pulled the plug on his latest scam – the “Aid to Alex” campaign.

Respectfully,

Robert M. Stanley

DreamsInDigital
6th February 2012, 06:24
Yeah I know... I couldn't remember reading the information before though....

As I said, my gut tells me that Alex is telling the truth with regards to the Andromedans, so much of his info *clicks*.... There are many people out there who will do *ANYTHING* to destroy the credibility of a contactee...

I think maybe Alex deserves another outlet to pass his information out there... Who would be willing to provide that outlet, and how do we get in contact with him?
His contact email information is available in the other Alex Collier thread "Alex Collier Needs Our Help."

And, just for the record. I'm staying out of this Mud Slinging Match. But, it's a great example of part of the reason why a lot of us contactees keep our mouths shut.

apokalypse
6th February 2012, 06:51
i wonder have Robert Stanley fully investigate on Alex Collier?is guess not, it's damn strange that Robert bring back old case of Micheal Horn/Billy vs Alex Collier after 3 interviews as if is something new.

Makoto
6th February 2012, 06:55
To Mr. dreamsindegital (sorry I am still in the process learning to how to use this forum or how to post)"Yes, I think we had that one already figured out and discussed , and actually Tolec's group is 4D. Not 3D."


I just wanted to say I do not trust Tolec. Yes, you are right 4D he said tht but I understand they are just as tangible as we are. Are we 3d or 4d? Since you are also Andromeda contactee, would you tell me who the Japanese contactee who are supporsed to be contacting Japanese gov or ask andromeda group next time, please. I just cannot see anyone is getting made the contact to Japanese gov at this time. Japanese gov=defunct and they are dead as the nuclear plants in Fukushima. I want to call this Japanese guy over the phone and hummer him for not being active enough:-)

fifi
6th February 2012, 07:14
I'm surprised that Robert Stanley suddenly turns 180 degree. Was he threatened? As Alex being a convicted felon, there is a thread about Fritz Springmeir being in jail for 8 years for robbing banks. We know the whistleblowers are very vulnerable and easily framed. I still believe Alex Collier's story about the Andromedans, and wish that his financial situation really improves.

DreamsInDigital
6th February 2012, 07:18
The Off Worlders I've been in contact with are 5D Tau Cetians. They're quite a different group than the Andromedans. I know the two that I'm in contact with aren't in contact with anyone in Japan, nor would they know who the Andromedans/Zenetae are contacting in Japan, that's like their business/prerogative. So, maybe your best to contact the guy in Japan? I'm not sure I can help here...

I think we're somewhere in between 3D and 4D right now. There is so many different opinions , thoughts, theories on this. I can't make sense of it.

jcocks
6th February 2012, 07:47
I think we're somewhere in between 3D and 4D right now. There is so many different opinions , thoughts, theories on this. I can't make sense of it.

Yep. We're in the midst of "the shift", as far as I know... My dreams seem to have a different "air" about them of late....they feel more "real"....

Also, the light from the sun seems to be whiter and the sky a little darker shade of blue than it used to be. But that could just be me paying more attention to it.....

ponda
6th February 2012, 07:57
jcocks said:

Also, the light from the sun seems to be whiter and the sky a little darker shade of blue than it used to be. But that could just be me paying more attention to it....

Yes i noticed that the sky appeared a darker shade of blue this morning.Interesting

OnyxKnight
6th February 2012, 14:32
Yes, there is a civilization that is maintaining contacts with the Japanese and Koreans, that comes from the constellation of Andromeda, but its not the Zeneteans Alex Collier is contacting. These come from a different star system that we call 'Nembus'.

You are right about Tolec btw.


I just wanted to say I do not trust Tolec. Yes, you are right 4D he said tht but I understand they are just as tangible as we are. Are we 3d or 4d? Since you are also Andromeda contactee, would you tell me who the Japanese contactee who are supporsed to be contacting Japanese gov or ask andromeda group next time, please. I just cannot see anyone is getting made the contact to Japanese gov at this time. Japanese gov=defunct and they are dead as the nuclear plants in Fukushima. I want to call this Japanese guy over the phone and hummer him for not being active enough:-)

parcival
6th February 2012, 17:45
i just got a virus from http://www.filedropper.com/alexcolli...january6of2012
.....

Etherios...I, too, got a virus when I went to http://www.alexcollier.org/.

Be careful out there folks...parcival

Makoto
6th February 2012, 18:38
Yes, there is a civilization that is maintaining contacts with the Japanese and Koreans, that comes from the constellation of Andromeda, but its not the Zeneteans Alex Collier is contacting. These come from a different star system that we call 'Nembus'.

You are right about Tolec btw.

Would you expand the story a bit more Please? When they contact the Japanese government, do they contact the foreign ministry or defense ministry? Or someone in the cabinet or the prime minister himself? Or use a massager i.e. contactee? Is there any chance to help them to clean up the nuclear accident (actually the attack done by mossad security agent placed the bomb in the plants.)

OnyxKnight
6th February 2012, 18:44
Would you expand the story a bit more Please? When they contact the Japanese government, do they contact the foreign ministry or defense ministry? Or someone in the cabinet or the prime minister himself? Or use a massager i.e. contactee? Is there any chance to help them to clean up the nuclear accident (actually the attack done by mossad security agent placed the bomb in the plants.)

I know this since the humanoids from Nembus were one of my 28 contacts, and met them couple of years ago. This was just an update given to me by another group. I don't know whether they contact government structures or ordinary people. But its perhaps ordinary people, like me.

There's a possibility that they are giving advices how to fix the problems , or helping in some way about those problems. I just don't know for sure. I have too little information about this.

watchZEITGEISTnow
7th February 2012, 04:35
http://www.unicusmagazine.com/blog/


You probably don’t know me but, after spending the last 20 years of my life professionally researching and reporting on UFOs and extraterrestrials, I am announcing my retirement. During the past two decades, I attempted to work with the media to inform the public about this topic. Unfortunately, despite my best efforts to educate the masses about aliens, there has been very-little progress.

ponda
7th February 2012, 04:49
http://www.unicusmagazine.com/blog/


You probably don’t know me but, after spending the last 20 years of my life professionally researching and reporting on UFOs and extraterrestrials, I am announcing my retirement. During the past two decades, I attempted to work with the media to inform the public about this topic. Unfortunately, despite my best efforts to educate the masses about aliens, there has been very-little progress.


Looks like he's being squeezed out.Interestingly his most recent interview was with Alfred Webre about Barry Sotero aka Barak Obama and the birth certificate issue.

Interesting interview if any one would like to listen: http://www.blogtalkradio.com/unicus/2012/01/20/the-unicus-radio-hour

Makoto
7th February 2012, 06:54
Am I paranoia? I can smell disinfo campaign is going in the community. Someone trying to feed us agenda through using various paths?
Now I can see…
Kerry had to deal with Bill wood case (I think there is possibility that EVA was mind control handler of Bill wood)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=HN-BRLptkaA
At the Same time,
Robert Stanley had to announce that he cut the tie with Alex using Micheal Horn (American Meier rep) related material for the reason, and info about Alex served Fed prison ( Dr. Richard Boylan also framed and served, someone told me that it is quite common it UFO researcher field)
After Robert interviewed on Jan 26 some Allio guy from the “New paradigm project” (what a heck is that? I receive the email from Robert that this is very special interview not to miss) and he has agenda book selling backed by George Green.
(On 19th Jan, He interviewed Alfred Weber who originally interviewed- I regard disinfo agent- Tolec) I do not have anything against Alfred per se but I was suspecting that he was used. Alfred has a long history of having harassed by CIA agents.
At the Same time,
Bill Ryan was to do the Key note speaker for George Green in Ecuador -his highly touted magnetic device never worked and he has some tie to Billy Meier organization even he said there was some trouble with them...
There is so much push is out there about ascension scenario that it is almost wired. For the record, Kerry attended last year in LA for 5D conscious seminar as speaker which also invited Princess! Kaoru Nakomaru as a VIP (that what it was written on the program) guest (someone is keep tying during Bill Wood interview want to know if there will be 3 day- darkness would happen- that kind of thing is going around New age group including Inelia was saying until recently the same thing and this Ms. Nakamoru is pushing also) everyone please note she is no more princess than any other Japanese old lady. Her claim is never verified nor publicly accepted. She is just a New age guru channellor/ Japanese journalist one time wrote book with Benjamin Fulford. She is a friend of Leo Zagaim now. Ben told me, Leo came to Japan to attempt to kill Benjamin albeit they wrote interview-conversation type book about Illuminati together published once in the beginning in Japan. Ben was plugged in all kind of any type of information continuously.
Ok, even Rense was fed that Shuman resonance could be moving into higher frequency into 13HZ per sec from 7.8.. Without checking where this info is coming from anyway? We need to scrutinize these ascension things. I know that it feels good that we will win the fight with the illuminati and we will all be butterflies but it is true? Sound like you can sell anything if you named your book 2012 or under the name of the higher frequency..


http://youtu.be/HN-BRLptkaA

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nomadguy
8th February 2012, 16:10
:fencing: ~ :ph34r: ~ :haha:

:suspicious: ~ :doh: ~ :grouphug:

goinghome2012
8th February 2012, 17:06
Ascension is happening now, our mother will be transforming into a being of light, she is about to give birth to a new reality. There will be a dimensional shift in a form of pole reversal, it will happen quickly. open your hearts and mind, discern the truth.

there are other theories that the sun will go supernova which may engulf the mother earth and whoever is at her vibration, her light body will pass through the void into 5 dimension.

the 2nd theory resonates with me too

peace and love

I can feel the vibrations, it is real!!!!!

you have to let go of the baggage , let go of the emotional blockages, detox your body, fast, meditation, prayer, walk in nature, drink lots of water, balance.

you are freedom, we are free, once you are there you will know. you have no care in the world. you are ready, it is a process to feel one with the father and mother god.

blessings

DreamsInDigital
8th February 2012, 17:22
Oh dear, there is absolutely no possible way that our Sun is going to go Super Nova for probably few trillion years at least. What is it with people, do they not know anything about astronomy? There is some chance they might have confused that with the possibility of Betelgeuse going Super Nova sometime in the relatively "near" future of anywhere between now and the next what? hundred million years?. But, our Sun? Yeah right. And pole shifts don't happen over night, neither do the magnetic reversal ones.

sunflower
8th February 2012, 20:55
James Gilliland sent out an e-mail yesterday about a disinformation attempt by Michael Horn; this time directed at him.

I am posting this to show why I wouldn`t believe a word coming from Michael Horn and by extension nothing coming from the organization behind Billy Meier in Europe.


[ECETI News] Disinformation Claim Circulating the Internet Further Investigation



The source of this disinformation originated with Michael Horn who sent it to Victors massive email list. Luckily Victor had the integrity to contact me before he sent it out. The false name given Kesmit09 does not exist. Easy to open an email do your dirty work then close one. Considering the source of this disinformation and Michaels last feeble attempts to cover-up the fact that Billy Meier's son and wife testified that the majority of the contacts were fabricated along with the fictitous names he gave them borrowed out of Egyptian and Bible lore Michael's last dying effort is to discredit others. If these all knowing master beings were enlightened they would have researched the long history and evidence of UFOs appearing over Mt Adams, Yakama Nation accounts, Kenneth Arnolds account of them landing on the western slopes of Mt Adams, Forest Rangers accounts, Police accounts, Tribal Police accounts, Greg Longs book and the research done by none other than Dr. J Allen Hynek. Being totally unaware of all this Billy and his contact Ptah stated there is no UFO activity on Mt Adams. Then when the overwhelming evidence came in they changed the story to it is military black oops. Hmmmm seems this has been going on for over 200 years. These are bold face lies by Billy and Ptah perpetuated by Michael Horn on various talk shows. Enough said.

We have already disclosed the identity of the contacts here for years on the website, the contacts are ongoing and the ships are still flying. There is no UN connection with ECETI, James is not and has never been appointed as the official contact by any government agency or any other group. No landing dates for the masses have ever been given. The below email is an attempt to discredit ECETI. We have no idea who Kesmit is the creator of this nonsense and his email is invalid.

Here is the nonsense

UFO Contactee to Make MAJOR Announcement

UFO contactee James Gilliland will make a major announcement,
fittingly on Christmas Day, 2011. Gilliland is expected to reveal the
actual identities of the extraterrestrial and inter-dimensional beings
that have been contacting him for years at his ECETI ranch near Mt.
Adams in Washington state.


He will also present never before revealed scientific evidence showing
that the visitors have been preparing him to officially represent the Earth
as the only true contact person with extraterrestrials. The Christmas Day
announcement will be the prelude to an even more important event - an
official daylight landing at the ECETI ranch on New Year's Day!

Details of the landing and official contact will be made available to the
press and government officials in time to record the event and allow
select officials to greet the extraterrestrials. Preparations are already under
way to obtain official recognition of Gilliland's liaison status through the UN.

Gilliland is reportedly quite humbled by the historical implications. He also
is confident that this will end the UFO cover-up once and for all, as well as
establish his ambassadorial status with extraterrestrials.

goinghome2012
8th February 2012, 21:26
this message is for dreams digital

I disagree with your statement.

you don't have to have a degree in astronomy to know the truth about our Mother, omega point approaching and I am glad

peace and love

Chucky
8th February 2012, 22:17
Thats my thoughts too. I am concerned that after this and interference just for me personally when I tried to get on the radio show. I ended up with something telling my PC to shut down lckily after I asked my question about iran and intervention! Not happy but did download the interview to hear the answer.
My other concern is so soon after this falling out that Robert Has chosen retirement so my gut tells me maybe there is a negative involved here to shut them both up... Makes me wonder.

i wonder have Robert Stanley fully investigate on Alex Collier?is guess not, it's damn strange that Robert bring back old case of Micheal Horn/Billy vs Alex Collier after 3 interviews as if is something new.

DreamsInDigital
8th February 2012, 23:05
this message is for dreams digital

I disagree with your statement.

you don't have to have a degree in astronomy to know the truth about our Mother, omega point approaching and I am glad

peace and love
You don't know whether I do or don't, so you are taking quite a huge assumption. But, understand you don't know anything about me. I disagree with you, so just going to have to agree to disagree. I highly suggest you get to know someone before making such blind assumptions as that only makes you look foolish.

apokalypse
9th February 2012, 02:46
even Alex is a fraud but his material is well researched or makeup and his message really hit the nail in the head, he provide complete history of planet earth, Cosmos, event on earth and outer space, other civilization, and especially current problems on earth. did Billy Meier provide any of that like Alex Collier? Billy Meier/Michael Horn claims Alex is a fraud and Billy Meier is only real contactee but did he provide any information like Alex Collier did? all i hear about is Billy experience as contactee not the information that pleiades giving him like History of human race and planet earth.

i should spent time do abit of research on Billy Meier/Micheal Horn material...right now i'm most interested in history of human race and planet earth, outer space event.

goinghome2012
9th February 2012, 02:55
this message is for dreams digital

I disagree with your statement.

you don't have to have a degree in astronomy to know the truth about our Mother, omega point approaching and I am glad

peace and love
You don't know whether I do or don't, so you are taking quite a huge assumption. But, understand you don't know anything about me. I disagree with you, so just going to have to agree to disagree. I highly suggest you get to know someone before making such blind assumptions as that only makes you look foolish.

I am sorry if i offended you, i am just saying you don't need a degree on anything to be an expert on a subject or to know what may happen in our near future. I am being honest with my openness of what i know and what i have learned along the way on my journey.

i think we are all searching for the absolute truth of what is going on on this beautiful Mother earth.

peace and blessings

twelve31
9th February 2012, 05:16
Hey folks,

Long time probationary member and lurker, first time poster :)

Felt I had to chime in on this thread for some reason. First it's fairly common knowledge that our sun is not massive enough to go supernova (at least not according to 3d physics). It'll become a red giant in a few billion years till it starts producing Fe in the core and then finally collapse into a white dwarf not much bigger than the earth.

http://curious.astro.cornell.edu/question.php?number=285

As far as the AC/RS situation I have some thoughts.


I was under the impression that RS and AC have been friends for a long time (more than a decade). I know if this was one of my friends I would urge them to come clean with me and then do what I could to support them. This is old news, just come clean already and do some damage control. Any PR flunky will tell you that (not in the same league but remember the Tiger Woods fiasco..)
Alex in an old interview explained that when he went public he felt he needed to change his name (as well as adopt a lame accent) to protect his family name. Mainly to protect his religious father who believed in Alex's/Ralph's contact but couldn't handle any ridicule brought towards the family.
Alex has not tried to profit from his info. even when most public UFO/Contactee groups were. Horn/Meier it can be argued have been profit motivated from the start. Con artists as far as I know con for $$$. To help him out, I for one feel I owe Alex at least $25 bucks for expanding my mind to "possibilities" that I finally opened up to a couple years ago. His interviews have been much more entertaining than movies/tv or any other paid entertainment anyway ;)


I smell smear campaign but if Alex did embezzle the IRS in '91 I like him even more now. The IRS already stole it once after all -lol

I'm sure there's got to be more to the story. So am I to gather that RS learns of some info. from MH. Then has an argument with AC and then out of disgust decides to retire? Just seems awful strange, ijdk.

I will say that this past week or two has caused me to question my discernment/BS meter. Not in this situation per say but in others in the alternative media and in my personal life. My higher self has been trying to reel me in I suspect with some lessons/prep for the days ahead.

As a general statement I think it might be a good idea for all of us Avalonians to make an effort to do an honest self assessment of our discernment and try to re-center ourselves as things continue to heat up and fly by hard and fast.

To all the contactees who read this. *Thank you* for your service to those of us who operate completely on faith and intuition. I can only imagine the burden you must have to carry.

With much love,
-twelve31

Demeisen
9th February 2012, 17:51
Well, I just got a reply from Robert....Wow is all I can say. I won't post what I got back from Rob publically (as Rob also said, I refuse to air his dirty laundry), but am happy to share it via PM if you want to have a read.

However, due to my personal beliefs and inner voice, I still believe the Andromedans exist and that Alex's testimony is largely true. However, I'd be very wary about donating money to the guy until he is willing to come clean to everyone about who he is and what he has done. I might yet do some more research on Alex to make my own mind up as to whether he was "framed" or not - as I know a lot of contactees do have that done to them.....

Hmm... it has given me pause to think, that is for sure...

You are correct of course. Research, use your discernment for everything you learn.
Of all the lecturers on the alternative media field, Alex Collier has most resonated true in me personally. It's kind of "funny" that now he is being charged as being a con artist.
As far as I know, during his whole almost two decades long career in publicity Alex has never asked money for the information he has shared with us. Neither does he have a fancy website selling all kind of this and that. Let's think a second what would be the reason for con artist to be a con artist? Hmmm... gaining financial benefits perhaps? I can't believe anyone would do it just for fun on this scale.
Also I can't even half seriously think that he would do all that just for fame. It is well known what kind of fame is often associated with an ET contact person and that is not something sane person would pursue. Still Alex has sacrificed his personal life for doing this along with all the crap and dirt that has followed.
I find Alex being a very sincere person while doing his presentations/interviews. He also admits without hesitation if there is something he doesn't know. I think a true con artist would feel more obligated to do his work "better" and come up with some crap. And what's most important, Alex's lectures have been also very encouraging and striving for humanity to become self responsible and taking action for it's own future.
Anyway, this is my personal view of him. I don't pretend to know everything, but enough to form my opinion.
So, please research and report back what do you find.
And what would be the most welcome situation is that Alex himself could be offered a channel to make some participation for what has recently emerged. (Mr. Ryan.. are you reading?)

jcocks
10th February 2012, 01:38
Yeah, I don't buy the "Alex is a con" line.... My heart just doesn't resonate with that...and I almost always go with my heart. I just hope the poor guy is doing ok... He's been through this sort of stuff before and he doesn't seem the strongest to deal with it again... I hope he doesn't stop talking because of this, he is a needed voice at these times...

DreamsInDigital
10th February 2012, 03:12
Someone just needs to shut that little rat Michael Horn up and be done with it.

Chucky
10th February 2012, 12:31
I must agree. Alex/Ralph who cares. He has amazing information and honestly has anyone noticed that there actually is a belt of energy 30 light years across now hitting us just like Alex said many years ago. NASA admits it and have also admitted a new radiation eminatting from black holes. All of them. Now who else has this information out there like this? Now I must say Horn has turned Billy Meier into a religion and Alex admits Billy met the plejarens so from the wisdom that Alex has always said was from the Andromedans kinda stacks up to me. I can think for myself and all information is crucial now whether it be a guy visioning it or recieving it from someone from a far away place. I can't turn by back because of this irs prison thing. After all where is his picture and mug shot proving it anyway. The government isn't showing all this stuff out in the open to shut Alex up so maybe it doesn't exist. Robert did say his age was wrong on the release date. Makes me think there is a rotten fish close by in this story so Alex gets my vote still. He delivers the messages totally un-bias and never did it for money either. Thats respect for ya. I fear there is another reason for this coming out and Robert quitting. But I don't think it will come out as yet. Something is brewing.

Chucky
10th February 2012, 12:42
I believe Alex actually discussed this with in one of his interviews. He stated Billy Meier did have contact but it was Michael Horn whom rode the money chain and turned it into a circus. I believe Alex said Horn blew it for him. The pleiadiens backed off since this became an ego issue. Very polite way of putting it I'd say.

Demeisen
10th February 2012, 14:15
I fear there is another reason for this coming out and Robert quitting. But I don't think it will come out as yet. Something is brewing.

I think that too.
I can't even guess whats in the soup with the convict story. But Alex says he was framed. What counts for me is the service for humanity he has been doing within the last two decades.

ThePythonicCow
10th February 2012, 19:41
Here's the reply I got from Rob [Robert Stanley] yesterday, make of it what you will....
Some of those in the backroom of the Projects Avalon and Camelot who had known or had contact with Robert Stanley before (not myself) received a message from Robert today, with contents further discussing what you posted above (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?38014-Alex-Collier-on-Unicus-Radio-Jan.-5-2012&p=421131&viewfull=1#post421131) from him.. Robert asked that his message be posted on the forum.

I am told by those who have been following these two that Alex Collier and Robert Stanley were friendly and supportive of each other, until the last couple of weeks. Then Robert Stanley announced his departure from the public UFO scene (see Robert Stanley Retires From UFO Field (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?40234-Robert-Stanley-Retires-From-UFO-Field)) and began a campaign attacking Alex Collier.

We hope both Alex and Robert are OK. I am not personally interested in conducting a war by proxy between Robert and Alex on this forum, so I don't intend to post the message that Robert asked us to post.

jcocks
11th February 2012, 01:08
We hope both Alex and Robert are OK. I am not personally interested in conducting a war by proxy between Robert and Alex on this forum, so I don't intend to post the message that Robert asked us to post.

You're just the messenger, it's up to us what we do with the message.

Was the message Rob asked you to post inflamatory? I'd still like to see what he wrote. I don't think any of us here are interested in taking sides, we just want to know WHY?

Joel

DreamsInDigital
11th February 2012, 01:29
Maybe he could PM the message to those of us that ask politely, if we publicly agree not to post the message on the forums or spread it. Just to read it.

ThePythonicCow
11th February 2012, 02:37
We hope both Alex and Robert are OK. I am not personally interested in conducting a war by proxy between Robert and Alex on this forum, so I don't intend to post the message that Robert asked us to post.

You're just the messenger, it's up to us what we do with the message.

Was the message Rob asked you to post inflammatory? I'd still like to see what he wrote. I don't think any of us here are interested in taking sides, we just want to know WHY?

Joel

It was (from my viewpoint) roughly "more of the same", along the lines of what you posted earlier here (http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?38014-Alex-Collier-on-Unicus-Radio-Jan.-5-2012&p=421131&viewfull=1#post421131). If you were Alex Collier or a friend of his, then you might well consider it consider it inflammatory, yes.

Posting ad hominem attacks by proxy is seldom a good basis for responsible discussion on the forum :), and more commonly a basis for further distracting us from shared efforts to raise our awareness,

Robert Stanley has his own site - he is free to post there.

jcocks
11th February 2012, 03:01
I don't know. If Alex was lying about his contacts, and Robert knew this, then why have him on his show *repeatedly*??? Why Allow Alex to continue the lie and imbellish upon it?

It still doesn't make sense and I'm feeling uneasy about the whole thing. It's also rather surprising that Alex has been completely silent as of late. It will be interesting to see if he surfaces to defend himself...

DreamsInDigital
11th February 2012, 03:24
Far as I'm concerned, it could just very well be a bunch of psy-ops and the government playing another dirty hand to discredit another person. They are infamous for manufacturing false charges and all sorts of things in disinformation campaigns. There seems to really definitely be more to this situation over all, and with the extra effort to hit the alternative and ufo communities with extra doses of disinformation as the PTW know they've lost and are going down like a sinking ship, it's likely that Robert Stanley was "gotten to" as they say. That's my final thoughts and opinion regarding this situation until Alex comes out somewhere and comments. But, given that Michael Horn is known to spread disinformation and make up stuff, and the inconsistencies of the files and the only place they are "available" is on Michael Horn's site. He's a little Rat and just needs to be shut up.

silverchimes
11th February 2012, 09:54
I'm one of those who do not believe Robert Stanley's explanation for why he's cutting ties with Alex Collier and the entire UFO community. As far as Robert, a so called old friend of Alex's, just finding out about Alex's past? Well, I already knew about Alex's past. It's easily found on the Internet, but I didn't pay much attention to it. Whistleblowers and contactees have long been the target of harassment, and the old IRS dog and pony show has been used time and time again to discredit people. I believe something more insidious has prompted Robert Stanley to give up his dedicated UFO reporting work. No person gives up a dedicated career of over twenty years easily--especially one that involves a sense of passion, and working to uncover the UFO phenomenon requires a sense of passion. I hope we find out more about this subject, but until we do--I wish Robert Stanley and Alex Collier the very best.

astrid
11th February 2012, 10:26
Yes it makes no sense, just to completely "shut up shop" like that,
very smelly indeed..

sojorner
17th February 2012, 07:12
yes.. robert quitting, so soon after Alex's interview has only given me more questions...

At this point, I would like to know more about why Robert quit so abruptly, after 20 years.

Soj

jackovesk
17th February 2012, 19:35
I'm gonna have to ask Alex for a loan soon...

passiglight
19th February 2012, 15:19
== MOD EDIT ==
(Removed Ad hominem comment on another member. Please speak from the intellect rather than feelings or prejudices. Thanks!)


The Off Worlders I've been in contact with are 5D Tau Cetians. They're quite a different group than the Andromedans. I know the two that I'm in contact with aren't in contact with anyone in Japan, nor would they know who the Andromedans/Zenetae are contacting in Japan, that's like their business/prerogative. So, maybe your best to contact the guy in Japan? I'm not sure I can help here...

I think we're somewhere in between 3D and 4D right now. There is so many different opinions , thoughts, theories on this. I can't make sense of it.




" Tau Cetians

Member Name: The Star Nation of Tau Ceti.

Accepted into the Galactic Federation: Almost 2.5 million years ago. Bear-like mammaloids (the original inhabitants) permitted a human colony from the Constellation of Hercules to settle on their system's fourth planet some 2.4 million years ago.

Location: Closest star to Earth in Constellation of Cetus (the Whale).

Distance From Earth: Approximately 11.8 Light Years.

Life Form Type: Sentient inhabitants are a galactic humanoid and a bear-like mammaloid."


above from here http://www.paoweb.com/gfmtauce.htm


i can make sense of it

charlesfrith
11th March 2012, 01:52
Hello everybody. I've just received an email from author Robert Stanley with respect to this Tolec actor.

charles/thailand

Tolec's real name is Chris Maynard.
He was trying to get close to Alex Collier through me.
However, when I outed Alex, Chris dropped off the line... good riddance to bad rubbish.

I find it rather curious that he used his real name to write about this subject and produced Cable Access TV shows in AZ
and yet he is now using a fake name to promote his alleged personal contact experiences.
http://earthstar.tripod.com/TSB_dir/Maynardletter.html
This is the "Entertainment" company that Tolec/Chris is/was partners in:
http://starpas.azcc.gov/scripts/cgiip.exe/WService=wsbroker1/corp-detail.p?name-id=08038404

charlesfrith
11th March 2012, 01:55
Hello all, this message from author Robert Stanley is just in with respect to Alex Colliers considerable record for criminal activity and deception.


Thanks for sending this. At least he admitted he was convicted.

I am not surprised at this latest outburst. He has nothing else to offer but lies. His "children's" book is unpublished and will not sell well even if is printed someday.
The word is spreading on the Net that Alex is really Ralph - a con man.

As for the specific legal issues raised in this interview:

Alex/Ralph tries to explain why he is a victim of the IRS
http://exotica-radio.com/articles/2012/3/3/alex-collier-the-return-of-the-demi-gods.html?lastPage=true&postSubmitted=true
he has tried to sell me this bull**** since 1991 when he was arrested
only recently was I able to locate the court records re. this case that show 4 specific felony counts against him
http://taxpravo.ru/sudebnie_dela/statya-76078-Donald_B_Hawksley_v_Commissioner_United_States_Tax_Court_-#ixzz1klv9blj7
when I confronted him about this and asked him if he had proof he was actually framed he claimed they took his papers... (yeah, right).

This is what the IRS states re. 23C:

(30) An IRS Form 23C, Assessment Certificate — Summary Record of Assessments, is an invalid record of assessment for purposes of section 6203 and Treas. Reg. § 301.6203-1, the Form 23C must be personally signed by the Secretary of the Treasury for an assessment to be valid, the Service must provide a copy of the Form 23C to a taxpayer if requested before taking collection action, or similar arguments described as frivolous in Rev. Rul. 2007-21, 2007-1 C.B. 865.
http://www.irs.gov/irb/2010-17_IRB/ar13.html

And here, they clearly refute the claim by some taxpayers that 23C is a magic bullet:

Frivolous tax returns; summary record of assessment. This ruling discusses and refutes the frivolous position taken by some taxpayers that before the IRS may collect overdue taxes, the IRS must provide taxpayers with a summary record of assessment made on a Form 23C, Assessment Certificate-Summary Record of Assessments, or on another particular form. These taxpayers claim that if a Form 23C is not provided, the assessment is invalid and the IRS may not collect any taxes due.
http://www.irs.gov/irb/2007-14_IRB/ar15.html

watchZEITGEISTnow
11th March 2012, 02:48
Victimless crime to begin with.

Alex (Ralph) worked for the IRS then switched teams - the IRS didn't like that.

The IRS are the good guys here? Are you for real? Who in the world (that has a heart (and soul)) sticks up for the IRS????

Oh yeah - government owned pawns do. Banksters do. And IRS people do.

Now if Alex killed someone, or hurt someone, or slandered someone (like he is receiving now) then - OK lets talk. But this is a load of BS.

If you believe this to "prove" Alex is a "con-man".... then you really are way off the mark.

Don't "con-men" usually take money for their deceptions? This is a hit piece - and I am sick of it.

You should also know by now that when people in the truth movement are targeted there is usually merit in what they bring to the table.

If you believe I am a sucker and have been conned for DONATING some cash to Alex - you really need to look at your own crap before telling me that.

Who the hell is Robert Stanley anyway? I never heard of him until December - when he got REAL EXPOSURE - THANKS TO HIS "FRIEND" Alex.

Robert Stanley is working for "them" - I feels it in my bones. Lets hope whatever stooge that brings up this information has the intelligence to check out Robert Stanley and his past....

Long live Alex and may his information keep coming...

watchZEITGEISTnow
11th March 2012, 02:53
never mind - misread.

sorry for the mistake.

Tolec is suspect city!

ThePythonicCow
11th March 2012, 02:58
Hello everybody. I've just received an email from author Robert Stanley with respect to this Tolec actor.


Hello all, this message from author Robert Stanley is just in with respect to Alex Colliers considerable record for criminal activity and deception.

I moved the above two posts, which had been on separate threads, into this current thread, where this ongoing feud between Robert Stanley and Alex Collier was previously discussed.

We'd rather not have "attacks via email" from outsiders posted ... we might decide to delete these two posts as well. Conducting feuds by proxy is not usually a good way to proceed.

watchZEITGEISTnow
11th March 2012, 03:13
Lets compare:
Alex @1:51:
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former IRS Commissioner Sheldon Cohen (Probably Alex's boss at one time)
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What am I missing here? WAKE UP!

WhiteFeather
11th March 2012, 03:35
Victimless crime to begin with.

Alex (Ralph) worked for the IRS then switched teams - the IRS didn't like that.

The IRS are the good guys here? Are you for real? Who in the world (that has a heart (and soul)) sticks up for the IRS????

Oh yeah - government owned pawns do. Banksters do. And IRS people do.

Now if Alex killed someone, or hurt someone, or slandered someone (like he is receiving now) then - OK lets talk. But this is a load of BS.

If you believe this to "prove" Alex is a "con-man".... then you really are way off the mark.

Don't "con-men" usually take money for their deceptions? This is a hit piece - and I am sick of it.

You should also know by now that when people in the truth movement are targeted there is usually merit in what they bring to the table.

If you believe I am a sucker and have been conned for DONATING some cash to Alex - you really need to look at your own crap before telling me that.

Who the hell is Robert Stanley anyway? I never heard of him until December - when he got REAL EXPOSURE - THANKS TO HIS "FRIEND" Alex.

Robert Stanley is working for "them" - I feels it in my bones. Lets hope whatever stooge that brings up this information has the intelligence to check out Robert Stanley and his past....

Long live Alex and may his information keep coming...

Good Points spoken here.

watchZEITGEISTnow
11th March 2012, 03:56
Hey WF - well it's frustrating Alex is misrepresented a lot of the time now. also I hear people "quoting" things Alex has never said like he said he was a PaaTaal - someone said this in a thread recently.

It just bewilders me the amount of effort some people take in doing this. Also how people can be so damn horrible to Alex - it's like they haven't even listened to him and just make up their minds without hearing the message.

If I had ANY doubt on Alex I would be the 1st to tell everyone. I am that kind of person. The predictions (possibilities) was the only time I was about to speak up - until Alex addressed that very issue. so...

astrid
11th March 2012, 04:10
They really want him out of the way,
this is quite a vicious campaign.
Even more reason to support him in my book.

I'm really surprised that its not totally transparent to all so called "truthers"

Using IRS info to disparage one of our own???
whats wrong with this picture,
come on people.

Anyone doing this work properly is going to rub up against the system,
sorry but DUH???

And yes it's highly suspect that people are using this forum to continue this battle,
Alex has always had a lot of support here.

Good luck with trying to poison us here ,
most of us have our discernment hats nailed firmly to our heads.

Flash
11th March 2012, 04:49
Hello all, this message from author Robert Stanley is just in with respect to Alex Colliers considerable record for criminal activity and deception.


Thanks for sending this. At least he admitted he was convicted.

I am not surprised at this latest outburst. He has nothing else to offer but lies. His "children's" book is unpublished and will not sell well even if is printed someday.
The word is spreading on the Net that Alex is really Ralph - a con man.

As for the specific legal issues raised in this interview:

Alex/Ralph tries to explain why he is a victim of the IRS
http://exotica-radio.com/articles/2012/3/3/alex-collier-the-return-of-the-demi-gods.html?lastPage=true&postSubmitted=true
he has tried to sell me this bull**** since 1991 when he was arrested
only recently was I able to locate the court records re. this case that show 4 specific felony counts against him
http://taxpravo.ru/sudebnie_dela/statya-76078-Donald_B_Hawksley_v_Commissioner_United_States_Tax_Court_-#ixzz1klv9blj7
when I confronted him about this and asked him if he had proof he was actually framed he claimed they took his papers... (yeah, right).

This is what the IRS states re. 23C:

(30) An IRS Form 23C, Assessment Certificate — Summary Record of Assessments, is an invalid record of assessment for purposes of section 6203 and Treas. Reg. § 301.6203-1, the Form 23C must be personally signed by the Secretary of the Treasury for an assessment to be valid, the Service must provide a copy of the Form 23C to a taxpayer if requested before taking collection action, or similar arguments described as frivolous in Rev. Rul. 2007-21, 2007-1 C.B. 865.
http://www.irs.gov/irb/2010-17_IRB/ar13.html

And here, they clearly refute the claim by some taxpayers that 23C is a magic bullet:

Frivolous tax returns; summary record of assessment. This ruling discusses and refutes the frivolous position taken by some taxpayers that before the IRS may collect overdue taxes, the IRS must provide taxpayers with a summary record of assessment made on a Form 23C, Assessment Certificate-Summary Record of Assessments, or on another particular form. These taxpayers claim that if a Form 23C is not provided, the assessment is invalid and the IRS may not collect any taxes due.
http://www.irs.gov/irb/2007-14_IRB/ar15.html

you must never have been audited with the taxman to post such comments. Anybody that has been knows how IRS or their equivalent in other countries are, heartless. ruthless and putting you in the guilty seat right from the start, even if no wrong has been proven yet. Yes, they can wash you out litterally of everything you have. If you have nothing, you can still go to jail. To get out of it, you have to pay excellent accountants and lawyers and this is in the thousands and more, if you still can afford it after your bank account has been illegally frozen by the taxman.

So, anyone can have a mishappening with the IRS and be found guilty in lower court.

My question is:

What precisely has Mr Collier or Ralph done to Robert Stantley precisely to deserve such vehement disparaging and inflamated posts?

Don't name the IRS, it won't work and it is not standing up. What else has happened to Robert Stanley that was the work of Alex Collier. Breach of trust because he did not talk about his IRS court days? Breach of trust for what else? Because he work in the ETs field with a nom d'empprunt? Gosh, even me I work under Flash and would never give my real name on a forum such as this one for fear of losing some jobs. And I am not publicly claiming ETs contact which may as well equal complete loony now, and worst 20 years ago (Icke had the same bad crowd beginnings)

So, what has he done to Robert Stanley?

If no one can answer, dirtying someone without true basis is not only disgraceful, it is plainly dishonest and harmful. You should stop spreading somehting that you may not be able to back up Charlesfrits. If you back it up, then I wll retract these sentences and excuse myself.

ThePythonicCow
11th March 2012, 05:36
you must never have been audited with the taxman to post such comments.
My hunch is that you think you responding to something that charlesfrith wrote, but that actually most of that post to which you are responding is something that Robert Stanley wrote (and charlesfrith quoted, without clearly marking it as a quote.)

ascendingstarseed
11th March 2012, 05:48
They really want him out of the way,
this is quite a vicious campaign.
Even more reason to support him in my book.

I'm really surprised that its not totally transparent to all so called "truthers"

Using IRS info to disparage one of our own???
whats wrong with this picture,
come on people.

Anyone doing this work properly is going to rub up against the system,
sorry but DUH???

And yes it's highly suspect that people are using this forum to continue this battle,
Alex has always had a lot of support here.

Good luck with trying to poison us here ,
most of us have our discernment hats nailed firmly to our heads.

I couldn't agree more Astrid, it's really disturbing to see so called "truthers" go on such a vicious attack toward someone who has contributed so much to a small but growing community of people who are doing nothing more than working on behalf of the best interests of humanity. Anytime I see a vicious attack launched against someone's credibility it's a clear indication they have done something right that the accuser feels threatened by..

We all have a past, most people have a closet bulging with crusty old skeletons, get over yourself! It doesn't make one hoot of a difference Alex was arrested, especially if it was IRS related...in that case he was a victim, which would give him more of a martyr status than bad guy. So whoever thought that was a good argument is delusional at best.

IMO Alex is going through a very difficult period and none of this is really any of our business unless we intend to help him....STO Service to Others is what PA is supposed to be about. Not this mean spirited, bully crap that smacks of right wing, lunatic fringe paranoia. This is the typical type of smear campaign that's been coming out of the right wing media and the willfully ignorant trolls that spew this kind of toxic hate where ever they go, that's right folks go ahead kick someone while they're down. Does that make you feel better about yourself.

We love you Alex!

onawah
11th March 2012, 05:52
That would be me who said that AC inferred that he was a Paa Taal.
He did not say, " I am a Paa Taal", but he was talking about the Paa Taal and then he used the word "we" referring to himself as one of them.
So it was kind of a subtle, back door declaration.
I am not going to go back and listen again to the interview to find the place in it where he said that, but if you are that interested, it should be easy enough to find.

I have listened to AC and read a lot of his work.
I like the guy, and I feel for him.
But I am keeping an open mind about what he has said, as I do with all info of that kind.
There's no way to know without proof whether what he has said is true or not,
but I don't feel that he is a fraud.
He seems integral to me, but that doesn't mean i don't have questions about some of the things he's said, and this forum is a place where we are free to ask questions.
Asking honest questions is not disrespecting someone, it's an important part of being a truth seeker.


Hey WF - well it's frustrating Alex is misrepresented a lot of the time now. also I hear people "quoting" things Alex has never said like he said he was a PaaTaal - someone said this in a thread recently.

It just bewilders me the amount of effort some people take in doing this. Also how people can be so damn horrible to Alex - it's like they haven't even listened to him and just make up their minds without hearing the message.

If I had ANY doubt on Alex I would be the 1st to tell everyone. I am that kind of person. The predictions (possibilities) was the only time I was about to speak up - until Alex addressed that very issue. so...

Flash
11th March 2012, 05:54
you must never have been audited with the taxman to post such comments.
My hunch is that you think you responding to something that charlesfrith wrote, but that actually most of that post to which you are responding is something that Robert Stanley wrote (and charlesfrith quoted, without clearly marking it as a quote.)

Yes and no Paul, I am responding to Charlesfrits as well since he reposted the accusations, I presumed he is supporting it.

charlesfrith
11th March 2012, 12:47
I can testify that Robert Stanley is a first class chap who stood by Alex for 20 years till he could no longer trust him. As for Alex I think the rape allegations in the links provided are not proof but they are not helpful to his case. Alex Collier is laughing in his latest interview. He's got a nice glass of Bourbon in his hand and is taking the piss. Don't believe me? Listen to it. He's barely containing his laughter.

watchZEITGEISTnow
11th March 2012, 13:11
Rape now? Back that up or just fade back to the ladyboy bars of Bangkok will you...

Logan
12th March 2012, 15:03
LOL wow... the messageboard drama is thick. SMH

DreamsInDigital
13th March 2012, 01:08
Charles,

Take some wood, build a bridge and get over it. And stop spreading the filth and lies you are spreading, you're not helping this situation. Alex is not a fraud (straight from the Horse's er...Moraney's mouth "Alex Collier is NOT a Fraud, there are just occasional glitches in his translation of the information") , he is not a rapist (those charges aren't even against him but someone with the same/similar name), he is another one of countless victims of the fraud that is rampant in the United States Government and the financial sectors like the IRS.

You really want to spend time attacking someone? How about attacking Michael Horn for all his misdeeds and the lies and crap he spreads constantly, including perpetuation of Billy Meier and his fraud and misrepresentation of his contact case? That would actually be productive and useful if you spent your time exposing those two. Leave Alex Collier alone. :laser:

Here, I think this should be enough wood for you.... I certainly know it's enough for me to use to knock some sense and reality/truth into someone.
http://www.johndee.com/pix/2005/nov3-5.jpg

charlesfrith
13th March 2012, 05:34
I've never seen any evidence for Alex Collier raping Michael Horn or even having the wood for him and further more I have no desire to attack anyone that is unconnected to this simulacra of a contactee.

But you're welcome to grow a pair and visit me any time son, and I'll teach you a lesson in using your own identity before I slap some shape into those pebbles of shame for ya.

Big kiss from me woody xxx

apokalypse
13th March 2012, 06:59
Rape? this stuff is old but for those who didn't follow Alex might consider new stories..it's all from Micheal Horn who went out attack Alex. http://theyfly.com/newsflash5/THE%20_ALEX_COLLIER_%20HOAX.htm

i have been hearing Michael Horn and Billy Meir names since my awakening last year but i'm not aware of their materials, i should spent time research on their materials...consider Alex is a fraud but alot of stuff resonate with me.

DreamsInDigital
13th March 2012, 22:06
Alex is not a fraud (straight from the Horse's er...Moraney's mouth "Alex Collier is NOT a Fraud, there are just occasional glitches in his translation of the information")

OnyxKnight
14th March 2012, 22:21
== MOD EDIT ==
(Removed Ad hominem comment on another member. Please speak from the intellect rather than feelings or prejudices. Thanks!)

" Tau Cetians

Member Name: The Star Nation of Tau Ceti.

Accepted into the Galactic Federation: Almost 2.5 million years ago. Bear-like mammaloids (the original inhabitants) permitted a human colony from the Constellation of Hercules to settle on their system's fourth planet some 2.4 million years ago.

Location: Closest star to Earth in Constellation of Cetus (the Whale).

Distance From Earth: Approximately 11.8 Light Years.

Life Form Type: Sentient inhabitants are a galactic humanoid and a bear-like mammaloid."


above from here http://www.paoweb.com/gfmtauce.htm


i can make sense of it

Those from the system in the Hercules constellation have never even visited the Tau Ceti system, even less colonize it. And there is no native intelligent life from the system's planets, all are colonies from some place else. Including the "bear-like mammaloids" who have more in common with hominid apes, than bears, when it comes to appearance. The human-looking colonizers come from the Vega system (who was also heavily colonized in turn, from people from another system in the Lyra constellation).

I have to note that the term Galactic Federation has never been used while discussing affiliations and associations of different cultures/civilizations.


Hello everybody. I've just received an email from author Robert Stanley with respect to this Tolec actor.

charles/thailand

Tolec's real name is Chris Maynard.
He was trying to get close to Alex Collier through me.
However, when I outed Alex, Chris dropped off the line... good riddance to bad rubbish.

I find it rather curious that he used his real name to write about this subject and produced Cable Access TV shows in AZ
and yet he is now using a fake name to promote his alleged personal contact experiences.
http://earthstar.tripod.com/TSB_dir/Maynardletter.html
This is the "Entertainment" company that Tolec/Chris is/was partners in:
http://starpas.azcc.gov/scripts/cgiip.exe/WService=wsbroker1/corp-detail.p?name-id=08038404


Hello all, this message from author Robert Stanley is just in with respect to Alex Colliers considerable record for criminal activity and deception.


Thanks for sending this. At least he admitted he was convicted.

I am not surprised at this latest outburst. He has nothing else to offer but lies. His "children's" book is unpublished and will not sell well even if is printed someday.
The word is spreading on the Net that Alex is really Ralph - a con man.

As for the specific legal issues raised in this interview:

Alex/Ralph tries to explain why he is a victim of the IRS
http://exotica-radio.com/articles/2012/3/3/alex-collier-the-return-of-the-demi-gods.html?lastPage=true&postSubmitted=true
he has tried to sell me this bull**** since 1991 when he was arrested
only recently was I able to locate the court records re. this case that show 4 specific felony counts against him
http://taxpravo.ru/sudebnie_dela/statya-76078-Donald_B_Hawksley_v_Commissioner_United_States_Tax_Court_-#ixzz1klv9blj7
when I confronted him about this and asked him if he had proof he was actually framed he claimed they took his papers... (yeah, right).

This is what the IRS states re. 23C:

(30) An IRS Form 23C, Assessment Certificate — Summary Record of Assessments, is an invalid record of assessment for purposes of section 6203 and Treas. Reg. § 301.6203-1, the Form 23C must be personally signed by the Secretary of the Treasury for an assessment to be valid, the Service must provide a copy of the Form 23C to a taxpayer if requested before taking collection action, or similar arguments described as frivolous in Rev. Rul. 2007-21, 2007-1 C.B. 865.
http://www.irs.gov/irb/2010-17_IRB/ar13.html

And here, they clearly refute the claim by some taxpayers that 23C is a magic bullet:

Frivolous tax returns; summary record of assessment. This ruling discusses and refutes the frivolous position taken by some taxpayers that before the IRS may collect overdue taxes, the IRS must provide taxpayers with a summary record of assessment made on a Form 23C, Assessment Certificate-Summary Record of Assessments, or on another particular form. These taxpayers claim that if a Form 23C is not provided, the assessment is invalid and the IRS may not collect any taxes due.
http://www.irs.gov/irb/2007-14_IRB/ar15.html


I can testify that Robert Stanley is a first class chap who stood by Alex for 20 years till he could no longer trust him. As for Alex I think the rape allegations in the links provided are not proof but they are not helpful to his case. Alex Collier is laughing in his latest interview. He's got a nice glass of Bourbon in his hand and is taking the piss. Don't believe me? Listen to it. He's barely containing his laughter.

What I, in turn, find it very curious, is the manner in which he speaks to somebody who he has shared history with for well over 20 years (in one of the recent interviews, he said almost 30 years). I wouldn't call him a "first class chap" if he fits the definition of a back-stabbing asshole, completely, A to Z.

By the latest interview, you mean the three done with Robert Stanley? In all three Robert laughed his ass off too? What exactly is confusing you dude?

And yeah ... He outed Alex? ...... Bitch, puh-lease! lol

WhiteFeather
14th March 2012, 22:27
I believe Robert was a victim of bullying by The upper Hierarchy, mind controlled and dirty bombed. He was a close friend of Alex to say the least. Somethings not right. My spidey sense started to tingle when Robert started to totally disown Alex.

songsfortheotherkind
14th March 2012, 23:08
Yeah I know... I couldn't remember reading the information before though....

As I said, my gut tells me that Alex is telling the truth with regards to the Andromedans, so much of his info *clicks*.... There are many people out there who will do *ANYTHING* to destroy the credibility of a contactee...

I think maybe Alex deserves another outlet to pass his information out there... Who would be willing to provide that outlet, and how do we get in contact with him?
His contact email information is available in the other Alex Collier thread "Alex Collier Needs Our Help."

And, just for the record. I'm staying out of this Mud Slinging Match. But, it's a great example of part of the reason why a lot of us contactees keep our mouths shut.

I hear you on that one- the idea that 'felony charges' cannot be used as a weapon, cannot be fabricated, that the System is beyond reproach in such matters, that it would never use its considerable powers as a force for evil in any way and that unless an individual goes through life being able to prove whatever is going on...

*sigh* the Cult of Dumb is clearly alive, kicking and a virile weapon of the mindvirus, lashing out in every direction.

I've changed my 'legal' name (because of course, if we don't kowtow to TPTB by rigorously following *all their rules and regulations, to the letter* then we're Up To No Good)- so clearly, changing my name is sign that I'm devious, have things to hide, blah blah blah...

Ugh. I'm heading to the pub. Even sticking my toe into this thread randomly has been a mistake.