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mojo
15th January 2012, 20:47
Hi all,
The researcher that interviewed me also interviewed the gentleman that took the photos below. He mentioned that I might be interested in seeing the photos. It was very interesting to here how this person has made direct contact. He speaks of similar characteristics. I emailed the individual to find out more information. Unfortunately all his videos are in Spanish and I cant understand the interviews. There might be some important information. The name of his channel is:

TheUfo866 and the link below.
http://www.youtube.com/user/TheUfo866

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MEXICAN E.T. CONTACTEE: Incredible Photos And Detailed Commentary
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Unicorn
15th January 2012, 21:55
Hi Mojo,

I'm sorry to tell you that after a bit of research on the Internet, I have found that this photo could be a fraud. http://humus.tachiblog.com.mx/html/el_fraude.html
The information is in Spanish. It compares this photo with other images of aliens on the web, and proves it has been manipulated.

mojo
15th January 2012, 22:24
Thank you Unicorn,
The researcher Will from PlANETunderATTACK mentioned there was a debunk done on the photo perhaps that is what you uncovered. I appreciate your efforts. The hope on my part is to get a better understanding from other contactees. I will pass the link you found on to Will and find out more...cheers
edit: any info on the interviews he did that can shed some light?

Unicorn
15th January 2012, 22:38
The videos where he supposedly explains his contact are inaudible. I haven't seen the other videos (inteviews) yet, but if I find something interesting I'll let you know.

Unicorn
15th January 2012, 22:49
And here you can find the same sort of info, in English

http://www.ghosttheory.com/2011/12/15/video-contactee-with-alleged-photos-of-aliens-and-spacecraft

mojo
15th January 2012, 23:19
Thanks again Unicorn,
I went there and I'm unsure of the claims. That link potrays Jaime Maussan's work as a negative. I have only heard good things about him. I hope to learn from the videos that the contactee put's up in Spanish...cheers

Cidersomerset
15th January 2012, 23:39
Hi Mojo hard to know what to say...It looked genuine, then the debunking article ? But theres a debunking site for everything Billy Meier , even today Roswell, are supposed
Japanese midgets in a saucer shaped ballon two years after the war ended must of got lost on the pacific air currents ...LOL...

The main thing is you know your sighting is genuine and it makes sence there could be more, so don't be down hearted ....Steve

Sidney
16th January 2012, 04:50
My gut tells me its authentic. Internet is full of debunkers. Even avalon is fulll of debunkers. Use your gut.

mojo
16th January 2012, 05:03
Hi starchild111,
I agree, although I didn't even have to use gut this time there were at least three similarities that this individual shared in the interview that were relevant to the Oregon sighting. His youtube interviews might be key in terms of learning more. Will the guy that did the interview and contacted him thinks he is authentic.

The One
16th January 2012, 07:14
Wow totaly awesome my friend.My opinion very real

Bongo
16th January 2012, 07:48
Yet again more evidence that proves nothing... this could easily be a sculpture made from pliable material to look like an alien, I mean you can't even see the whole face.

Is this an alien, maybe... but there again maybe not... we're gonna need better pictures than that to prove that it is an alien.

The One
16th January 2012, 09:05
Yet again more evidence that proves nothing... this could easily be a sculpture made from pliable material to look like an alien, I mean you can't even see the whole face.

Is this an alien, maybe... but there again maybe not... we're gonna need better pictures than that to prove that it is an alien.

And yet again another skeptic yawn

Bongo
16th January 2012, 10:02
Yet again more evidence that proves nothing... this could easily be a sculpture made from pliable material to look like an alien, I mean you can't even see the whole face.

Is this an alien, maybe... but there again maybe not... we're gonna need better pictures than that to prove that it is an alien.

And yet again another skeptic yawn

I'm just pointing out the blatantly obvious. To many people automatically jump on the band wagon when they see crap pictures of aliens, in this case the picture is good (good as in you can make out the face) but its dark, you can't see any background & you can't see the whole face (which makes this picture crap)... so again this could very easily be a sculpture/model of some sort.

You have proved that any kind of intelligent analysis on your part has gone completely out the window & you are going on what you believe to be true rather that what is true.

Like I said before this could be an alien, this picture however proves nothing because this is easy to fake.

The One
16th January 2012, 10:09
You have proved that any kind of intelligent analysis on your part has gone completely out the window & you are going on what you believe to be true rather that what is true

Finished with your rant Loony then i will start

I am more intelligent than you could possibly imagine looney i mean loony lol

Bongo
16th January 2012, 11:15
I am more intelligent than you could possibly imagine looney i mean loony lol

lol you trying to insinuate that i've misspelled my username? haha

hmm...... I was actually expecting you to come back with why you thought it was a real picture but you obviously can't so you have decided to bring up a variation of how to spell my username...?

The One
16th January 2012, 12:34
I am more intelligent than you could possibly imagine looney i mean loony lol

lol you trying to insinuate that i've misspelled my username? haha

hmm...... I was actually expecting you to come back with why you thought it was a real picture but you obviously can't so you have decided to bring up a variation of how to spell my username...?

No i was having a bit of fun saying you are looney lol


http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRZHep-cEN3MhuXbkZOYFWoJdBqvHfl6kE684UovMfOvcV5OtVqXQ



Were tiny were tooney we are all a little looney lol

noxon medem
16th January 2012, 12:59
I think Mario Enrique Gonzalez Mondragon have
a great sense of humour , and the message
he has hidden in this joke is a profound one.

The planet in the story is called Humus .
That sounded familiar , so I looked it up :
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Humus
12738


In soil science, humus ; < Latin: earth, ground , refers to any organic matter
that has reached a point of stability, where it will break down no further and might,
if conditions do not change, remain as it is for centuries, if not millennia
(interesting read, that wiki-article)

12734 ... 12735


Do not forget the soil beneath the soles of your feet ,
- when you walk with your head in the clouds .

That Advice is both poetic and practical .
( Be careful when belief become conviction ..).

Also
If you look close on the ground ,
you might even see alien lifeforms

12737 ... 12736
Praying Mantises
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mantis

..
-

That is more or less what I get from this .
I feel no need to go into more detail about the "alian"-images
since that is well covered in the two quality analyzes posted allready.
- http://www.ghosttheory.com/2011/12/15/video-contactee-with-alleged-photos-of-aliens-and-spacecraft
- http://humus.tachiblog.com.mx/html/el_fraude.html

Time for a trip in the nature.
All well , folks (and alians)

:fish2:

nm

mojo
16th January 2012, 16:49
Hi,
Surely there is more to the story then the ET photo. What about the witnesss testimony? My hope is to find a member that speaks Spanish and is interested enough to learn more about the case and share it with us. The individual has a youtube channel and can be contacted that way. Plus I noticed a number of interviews he gave posted on his channel...A little ground work can help us decide if the case holds merit. Thanks all for your interest...:)

edit: here's an example of one interview in Spanish.
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Here is an amazing clip of a sphere shooting a laser beam down. Check @:37 second mark
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Camilo
16th January 2012, 17:25
Those photos are very blurry and don't say much of anything. Not convincing at all.

RMorgan
16th January 2012, 19:40
Hi guys and gals,

Well, you can consider myself a skeptic as well, but in my opinion, some of you are acting a little bit irrationally here.

Grays are very "popular" ETs. They are the first kind of being most of us thinks first as an example of an ET.

Just because someone can make sculptures of grays, very close to the real thing, it doesn´t mean some pictures of grays aren´t the real deal, simply because the core idea for making grays sculptures doesn´t come from nowhere; the idea comes from real reports, from people who actually saw them.

Any of us could, in case of close contact, take pictures of grays, and any of us could say these pictures are fake. There´s no way to disprove such pictures just because they look like dolls or props. These beings are weird indeed, in fact, they don´t look real because they defy our sense of reality.

As far as I could understand the interview in Spanish, I couldn´t feel this man, Mario Gonzáles, is just trying to draw attention to himself. I think he´s looking for the truth just like any of us here, and he had some pretty unique experiences. Why would him expose himself to ridicule for nothing? As far as I know, he´s not selling anything.

Personally, I know these beings are real. I also know that there are too many fakers out there as well, however, it doesn´t mean everything regarding grays is fake.

If you start thinking that every witness out there, with enough courage to expose themselves for public judgment, is a liar, well, you´re doing just like TPTB have planned.

Cheers,

Raf.

Unicorn
16th January 2012, 22:09
Hi again, Mojo

To the question of how he was contacted (first video): in 2008, he began to videotape images of UFOs. In time, he began to feel their presence and had some sleep disorders (insomnia). On a second stage, he began to receive messages in his dreams. Finally, he made physical contact with the ETs. According to them, the UFO itself is an intelligent being. He was invited into the UFO. Then he got those symbols in his arm and leg, shown on the video. He says that the ET choose their contactees according to their inner qualities. He says he was taken to Humus. He visited that planet, that seems similar to our own, but the atmosphere is much more dense.

I hope this helps. If you need more, just ask. :-)

Andreash94
16th January 2012, 22:13
Whi u guys thing all ET's look like greys?
i mean cmon all the real cousins cant interfer whit us bcs of universal law to dont interfer whit oather races only if they are in great danger ... Right ?:wizard: sry writhign tipe im not that good to english:tongue1:

mojo
16th January 2012, 22:26
Ty Unicorn & Raf for sharing,
That info was extremely helpful. I have not met an individual in two plus years of my own encounter that could provide more insight. I am very grateful for sharing the general outline of what he said. I'm not surprised by choice being made on inner qualities and it only makes me want to know the contactee even more. Can you discern any of his traits or qualities in the video? thanks again...

Edit: PS: How many years has the contact been happening (2008 is when he began filming) or before? Ultimately he might be able to help me make closer contact... If I could learn a method to make two way communication that would be astounding. Does he hear them telepathically, that's my loss there...

Unicorn
16th January 2012, 22:46
Good to know that, mojo!

As for your questions:

The ETs can see if you are an ethical, fair person. They can see your values and if you are trying to amend past errors that are not too serious. The commentator says that most of the contactees have a great sensibility towards nature, and he confirms that. He has been living in the woods most of his life.

He explains that the process began in 2008, when he was videotaping the UFOs. But he doesn't mention the exact moment of the physical contact. Maybe in another interview he explains more...

mojo
16th January 2012, 23:18
Dare I use the term there are more "nuggets" to uncover? I'm sure some almost fainted on that one...lol

Here is another clip with the laser shooting down at the end...

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I dont know a word he is saying but it's very intriguing..
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Unicorn
17th January 2012, 14:20
In this second video he describes an encounter with a dark ET.

This happened to him just a few days before recording the video. At approx. midnight, he went to bed. Once he started to fall asleep, the floor began to vibrate. He felt on his right side a very big hand. This hand dug its nails into him, like a claw. He grabbed that hand, and he could feel a horrible stink. He began to pray. He describes that being as a “devil”, very big and strong. As he was praying, that being went away. He was very very scared, of course.

kersley
17th January 2012, 15:45
In this second video he describes an encounter with a dark ET.

This happened to him just a few days before recording the video. At approx. midnight, he went to bed. Once he started to fall asleep, the floor began to vibrate. He felt on his right side a very big hand. This hand dug its nails into him, like a claw. He grabbed that hand, and he could feel a horrible stink. He began to pray. He describes that being as a “devil”, very big and strong. As he was praying, that being went away. He was very very scared, of course.

The question is.. Are these people that have these experiences been selected? or is it random? With so many of us here on planet earth, how and why do they choose these people? or when these entities manifest here, they end up in anyone's bedroom?

Bongo
18th January 2012, 16:56
Hi guys and gals,

Well, you can consider myself a skeptic as well, but in my opinion, some of you are acting a little bit irrationally here.

Grays are very "popular" ETs. They are the first kind of being most of us thinks first as an example of an ET.

Just because someone can make sculptures of grays, very close to the real thing, it doesn´t mean some pictures of grays aren´t the real deal, simply because the core idea for making grays sculptures doesn´t come from nowhere; the idea comes from real reports, from people who actually saw them.

Any of us could, in case of close contact, take pictures of grays, and any of us could say these pictures are fake. There´s no way to disprove such pictures just because they look like dolls or props. These beings are weird indeed, in fact, they don´t look real because they defy our sense of reality.

As far as I could understand the interview in Spanish, I couldn´t feel this man, Mario Gonzáles, is just trying to draw attention to himself. I think he´s looking for the truth just like any of us here, and he had some pretty unique experiences. Why would him expose himself to ridicule for nothing? As far as I know, he´s not selling anything.

Personally, I know these beings are real. I also know that there are too many fakers out there as well, however, it doesn´t mean everything regarding grays is fake.

If you start thinking that every witness out there, with enough courage to expose themselves for public judgment, is a liar, well, you´re doing just like TPTB have planned.

Cheers,

Raf.

Actually I never said he was a liar, I focused on his visually presented evidence (The Picture) & how easy it is to fake. I've actually not passed any judgement on his story what so ever.

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No i was having a bit of fun saying you are looney lol

http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRZHep-cEN3MhuXbkZOYFWoJdBqvHfl6kE684UovMfOvcV5OtVqXQ

Were tiny were tooney we are all a little looney lol

shhhhhhhh, be vewy vewy quiet............ I'm hunting wabbits!!! lol

mojo
18th January 2012, 17:03
No worries Loony, I did not take it personally...:) Did you happen to look at the other videos of the laser shooting down from the object? Some of the craft and further footage looks pretty good. Also, I found out a little more since my last post...They come to him in dreams and he hears them telepathically. Two things that I haven't shared...I might not be able to get any more help from the case.

778 neighbour of some guy
18th January 2012, 17:18
I think Mario Enrique Gonzalez Mondragon have
a great sense of humour , and the message
he has hidden in this joke is a profound one.

The planet in the story is called Humus .
That sounded familiar , so I looked it up :
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Humus
12738


In soil science, humus ; < Latin: earth, ground , refers to any organic matter
that has reached a point of stability, where it will break down no further and might,
if conditions do not change, remain as it is for centuries, if not millennia
(interesting read, that wiki-article)

12734 ... 12735


Do not forget the soil beneath the soles of your feet ,
- when you walk with your head in the clouds .

That Advice is both poetic and practical .
( Be careful when belief become conviction ..).

Also
If you look close on the ground ,
you might even see alien lifeforms

12737 ... 12736
Praying Mantises
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mantis

..
-

That is more or less what I get from this .
I feel no need to go into more detail about the "alian"-images
since that is well covered in the two quality analyzes posted allready.
- http://www.ghosttheory.com/2011/12/15/video-contactee-with-alleged-photos-of-aliens-and-spacecraft
- http://humus.tachiblog.com.mx/html/el_fraude.html

Time for a trip in the nature.
All well , folks (and alians)

:fish2:

nm

I agree, these are aliens indeed, i often wonder what goes on in these little creatures minds, how do they see the world, not buying the greys pics, dont understand why there are no clear images of these guys by now. About two billion digital cameras on this planet if not a lot more and a whole lot of people take vague images of all kinds of strange stuff all the time, where are our aliens?

Bongo
18th January 2012, 17:45
No worries Loony, I did not take it personally...:) Did you happen to look at the other videos of the laser shooting down from the object? Some of the craft and further footage looks pretty good. Also, I found out a little more since my last post...They come to him in dreams and he hears them telepathically. Two things that I haven't shared...I might not be able to get any more help from the case.

have you tried contacting him directly through youtube, maybe he speaks english? if he doesn't I'm sure there would be someone on avalon that would help you translate from english to spanish/spanish to english so you could send him a messages & start up a dialogue.

mojo
18th January 2012, 17:53
Hi Loony, I did send an email 4 days ago but no reply. The other researcher shared more info with me and that's how I found out further about his event.
Here's Will's messsage,

Hi mojo...

I've got a busy work day today but I wanted to take some time to say hello and give you a little background on Mario Mondragon.

First off, he says that he communicates with them in his dreams for the most part...but also recieves some telepathy.

As far as debunking him goes, he's in the middle of a sh*t-storm right now. He's appeared on and recieved a thumbs up from two prominent researchers: Dr. Mario Zegarra and Ana Luisa Cid. The Jaime Muassan people don't like him and there is some pending legal action coming from one side or the other--I'm not sure which. I think that Muassan may have used his material without permission or consent or something and claimed it to be fraudulent.

Because his case is fairly high profile right now, there are a couple of entities that have produced intricate pieces on how he hoaxed his pictures. They've even gone to the extent of stalking his facebook posts and claiming there are some minor conflicts.

Personally, I believe him.

Anyway...let's try to talk soon, my friend.

Stay safe,
Will.

Here is Dr. Mario Zegarra
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