(New!) Project Camelot: Bill Wood : Above & Beyond Project Looking Glass

[Tommy]

New Release! Today I am releasing my interview with Bill Wood : Above & Beyond Project Looking Glass:

An interview with an ex-Navy Seal who during the years 1992-2000 was sent on top secret bombing missions in the Middle East, predominantly in Iraq. Years after the first Gulf War when we were supposedly not at war with Iraq yet he and Seal Team 9 were targeting Tomahawk Missiles on a monthly basis taking out targets that were increasingly "soft"... involving deaths of hundreds of innocent civilians. Find out how this highly trained young man and his team were coerced by the military into purposely destroying villages and creating future terrorists as part of a plan that would ultimately serve their dark purpose, the war on terror and 911.

And if that weren't enough, hear how he was trained in Area 51 as a specially gifted group of highly classified psy spies to see beyond the famous Looking Glass technology into the future involving 2012 and beyond.

Groundbreaking in every way.

nkIIBnIuXHM

http://projectcamelotproductions.com/blog-hp.html

[EYES WIDE OPEN]

I have never believed the looking glass stuff 100%. Will give this a watch however.

[astrid]

Thanks Tommy !!

[Mulder]

I've just listened to the whole interview and I enjoyed it very much. Bill Wood is extremely positive saying the "good-guys have already won" and the world is just playing out the last few chess moves to accomplish this!!

I enjoyed his explanations of timelines 1 ("ascension") and 2 ("a catastrophe that sends people underground") and his opinions on CERN - that it is "not allowed" to be fully activated. I remember what Delores Cannon said about living on the French/Swiss Border - so I'll keep away from this part of the world just in-case!

[Tommy]

My pleasure, personally I found this interview highly intriguing.. Another details that should be mentioned is that Kerry did not even dare to tell me what this interview was about over skype, I understood that pretty quickly after seeing this. Oh, and the second camera stopped working, hence the reason why we only got one angle in this interview.. Should not matter since info is what is important anyways :)

Oh and this:

To any fools who believe the disclaimer/insurance policy at the beginning of the Bill Wood video ...need to get real and wake up and smell the napalm! He is trying to stay out of jail and alive!!! -- and you can quote me -- Kerry

The above was triggered by a bunch of people watching for 5 min and making a judgement\comment\pissed off e-mail..
Plausible deniability surely is a must for a man in his position, does not take a genius to figure out.. lol

[EYES WIDE OPEN]

Seems credible but he never really explained how he got into looking glass. Seems like he just read up on looking glass to me but the other stuff he said rings true.

[Cidersomerset]

Thanks Tommy part way thru seems genuine thanks for posting ,i like how he acknowledged at the start that as far as his intelligence sources revealed
that Bin Laden died years ago and seal team 9 & 6 both officialy did not exist....So to blow up the 'coptor with the annonymous seal team 6 could not
be proved either way if the crash was faked.....As for the media dramatisation of the assisnation of 'Bill Laden' last may I feel we can all resonate with
that as being a white house stunt......Steve

and David icke summed it up and i posted this yesterday...

Default Re: D.Icke in Rome.....The London- Rome=Beltane Ritual 2011....Full movie..

Hi Taliesin the vid was filmed on the the weekend of the royal wedding 1st of may and 'Bill Laden' was 'assasinated' on the 2nd May and although the footage would have been taken ,it could
have been added easily....I don't think he believed it was Bin Laden who was killed has he as often said he died years before....So may not of felt the need to mention ???
The date has probably got some ritual significance even if his death was faked......

KmATi7Qrt9I

[Cidersomerset]

I agree eyeswide open about the looking glass material.....need more info Dan and Marcie are definately 'odd ball' charecters.....

as per the interview put up yesterday...

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?38748-The-Dan-Burisch-SAGA-Dan-Burisch-Bill-Hamilton--RenseRadio-&p=404476#post404476

Haven't got to his explanation on looking glass yet, so far he seems sincere....

his explanation of 'blackmail' seems very plausible to keep most people quite
explains why there is not a flood of whistleblowers even if they wanted to...

[Wind]

And now Project Camelot servers are under attack once again. Coincidence?

[Tommy]

And now Project Camelot servers are under attack once again. Coincidence?

Good question, perhaps not.. I have not been able to go through the logs yet, but I had to pull the sites to stop it all (only the database driven so far).

I am working on getting the sites up asap, this time using perhaps the most drastic measure I have ever taken in response to a single attack..
I will give them this though, this time they seem more "professional" than before..

Back to work for me, just wanted to keep you informed!

[Sirius White]

Looking glass is real, perhaps not in the way other people thought...

I believe they have MANY methods of peering into futures/alternatives/probabilities. Both technological, and..."spiritual" (psychophysiologies)

Watching now :)

[crested-duck]

Just finished watching, thought it was good, Kerry was not that annoying, did'nt get any bad vibes with the man and his sincerety .

[createnjoy]

Thank you so much for this fascinating sharing. It's worth at least listening to all the way to the end (my video got pretty strange). And it's also interesting that this information is so similar (coming from this type source) to that provided by quite a few other (off planet) sources!

[Limor Wolf]

I can't wait to listen to this interview.the ugly games of the controllers via the CIA,military,and other inteligences need to be revealed.
the more people like him are getting out with their stories,the best chance our society has to understand the very different interest the government holds as opposed to the one they are selling to the public via the media.
Thank you Tommy for this update.good luck with getting the site up again,you do an important job and you have our back-up here :-)

(shame my home computure has been attacked by mysterious viruses and almost every computure I touch these days is having some kind of a problem,but I hope to be able to watch this one without any additional 'accidents' :))

[Lazlo]

I just finished listening all of the way through as well. His accounts of working behind the lines on the Tomahawk missiles seems entirely legit.

Something is bothering me about the transition to the looking glass material and his accounting of other black projects. The story doesn't follow logically considering the requirements of compartmentalization. Even if he was a Fire Control specialist working on covert missions, and was brought in to bring his psychic abilities to bear on the timeline convergence problem...Why would he be privy to such detailed information on the space fleet?

I get the sense that a good deal of the information that he is relaying in the second part of the interview was learned second hand from the group of "oathkeepers" that he is now involved with, and mashed up with the "internet searching" that he did after his 9-11 wake up.

Another nagging item, he uses the NDAA as the reason for coming forward, but still professes to believe that it is game over for the bad guys. Perhaps he just wants to make sure that he doesn't end up in a camp before the end game plays out?

I had to listen to it in sections due to other obligations today. I'll wait for the transcript and give it another go, perhaps some of the inconsistencies will take care of themselves.

Good interview in any case. Certainly as credible as any other number of Camelot witnesses, and more so than others.

[Cidersomerset]

Thanks Kerry great interview....Bill Wood is very articulate and has good knowledge of the alternate field from the inside...

Could he be a plant/disinfo of course !!! I don't get that vibe ....Alot depends what happens next and if his group can

get more insiders to come forth so it would be imposible to deny for example 9/11 was a inside job, or the US has a space fleet !!

If the trickle of whistleblowers becomes a flood the mainstream would have no option than to acknowledge and the revolution would have

begun........Still thanks again Tommy for posting.....Steve

[000]

Excellent interview!!!

B.W. is exactly correct about the timeline convergence. No matter what the former power elites try to do this year, beyond the convergence, the awakening, they will no longer be allowed, in any form, to do what they have done for so long. They can scream and flail like the upset babies they are as much as they want, they will either be erased from existence and/or be defeated by the Nature of the Infinite, no matter what, once the shift is complete. They can stick that in their pipes and smoke it while they leave the scene with their tails between their legs in the highest intensity of embarrassment :)

[His chess game metaphor is also bang on. The losers have already lost, it is just a matter of going through the last few moves before their defeat.]

[Mu2143]

What I do know some one had a dream about 2012 and on the moment I do not recall which video it was I will look it up tomorrow , but in the dream it was said; insert disk 2 now you play!

[Oouthere]

Any place this is in a mp3 format?

Rich

[Rollo]

Great interview, thank you!

[gripreaper]

I just finished listening all of the way through as well. His accounts of working behind the lines on the Tomahawk missiles seems entirely legit.

I agree. You can feel the emotion trying to well up as he recalls this part of his life.


Something is bothering me about the transition to the looking glass material and his accounting of other black projects. The story doesn't follow logically considering the requirements of compartmentalization. Even if he was a Fire Control specialist working on covert missions, and was brought in to bring his psychic abilities to bear on the timeline convergence problem...Why would he be privy to such detailed information on the space fleet?

I get the sense that a good deal of the information that he is relaying in the second part of the interview was learned second hand from the group of "oathkeepers" that he is now involved with, and mashed up with the "internet searching" that he did after his 9-11 wake up.

I agree that his synopsis is a composite of the above mentioned variables, although the idea that all timelines are converging and that the outcome is inevitable and no moves on the chess board change the outcome has some doubt in it. I refer you to the body language at the 2 hour twenty minute mark where he draws his final conclusion. The point that the yellow cube is affected by who reads it and the distortions in the level of existing consciousness and how this feedback loop changes that outcome, I do understand. It's like going to a psychic, who reads your energy and the timeline you are on and gives you the outcome you want based on where you want to go.


Another nagging item, he uses the NDAA as the reason for coming forward, but still professes to believe that it is game over for the bad guys. Perhaps he just wants to make sure that he doesn't end up in a camp before the end game plays out?

Not so nagging for me, because of the body language I saw at the 2:20 mark. The outcome is assured as long as we don't go into the fear mode and create the intended outcome of the elite who see the end game and want to cause their opponent to "mess up" their move and change the outcome. Still, it's a dichotomy because looking glass shows the same outcome no matter what and yellow cube shows possible different outcomes based on how the collective consciousness reacts to the moves.

That's my take.

[ThePythonicCow]

New Release! Today I am releasing my interview with Bill Wood : Above & Beyond Project Looking Glass:
The substantial difference in audio volume between Kerry's mic and Bill's mic makes listening difficult. When it's loud enough to hear Bill, then Kerry is way too loud.

[Tommy]

New Release! Today I am releasing my interview with Bill Wood : Above & Beyond Project Looking Glass:
The substantial difference in audio volume between Kerry's mic and Bill's mic makes listening difficult. When it's loud enough to hear Bill, then Kerry is way too loud.

Oh well, I did not really have any problem with this, neither does anyone else to my knowledge. I used laptop speakers when listening.

Two things should be noted:

1. I don't think Kerry ever rushed to get an interview out like she did with this one, certain fine tuning like audio-levels takes a lot of processing time.
Personally I do not see the need to do this, perhaps with the MP3. The interview is in Stereo Audio (two channel). She did not have anyone to man the camera\mic controls either this time. (I am in Norway at the moment), same problem she had with Barry King and Eva back in May last year (alone with the cameras)

2. We barely got working equipment at all at this point. Cameras and new mic's (also needed) are pretty expensive as everyone is probably well aware off.
As you might have noticed she used only one camera now, the other one died the other day..

But what about the information Paul? That is surely more interesting that tuning the volume button ey?
:)

[christian]

The audio in this one was pretty good considering Kerry's proverbial 'bad audio karma'.
I found this interview exceptionally intruiging, although most of the information was available before.
I guess it's because he comes across really genuine, went through lots of troubles and managed to come up with a very heartening message and it's always encouraging to find out, that there are good guys among us, that were/are doing a lot of good stuff in secrett. He breaks down the December 21st issue in a succinct and clever way, encompassing both a monumental opportunity and the indispensable personal responsibility, that is needed to use it properly. The consistent whistleblower testimony about the looking glass 2012 anomalie is odd at least.

[bodhii71]

So is he considered a white hat, or a lower echelon of that group?
And if that's the case, isn't this a monumental interview?
Kinda a dignified Hoorah! on the Light side delighting in checkmate?

[DoubleHelix]

New Release! Today I am releasing my interview with Bill Wood : Above & Beyond Project Looking Glass:
The substantial difference in audio volume between Kerry's mic and Bill's mic makes listening difficult. When it's loud enough to hear Bill, then Kerry is way too loud.

That's a bit of a pot shot there Paul... Why did you feel the need to compare Bill and Kerry over this? This isn't a competition.... but more of a disbanded faction, united with the same goal in mind, taking separate routes in their journey forward.

The audio in its entirety sounded fine to my ears. Bill has stated that he doesn't feel the need to continue interviewing people, so I'm glad that some source of information is still in provision. I feel this is one of the better PC interviews of late.

[Lazlo]

New Release! Today I am releasing my interview with Bill Wood : Above & Beyond Project Looking Glass:
The substantial difference in audio volume between Kerry's mic and Bill's mic makes listening difficult. When it's loud enough to hear Bill, then Kerry is way too loud.

That's a bit of a pot shot there Paul... Why did you feel the need to compare Bill and Kerry over this? This isn't a competition.... but more of a disbanded faction, united with the same goal in mind, taking separate routes in their journey forward.

The audio in its entirety sounded fine to my ears. Bill has stated that he doesn't feel the need to continue interviewing people, so I'm glad that some source of information is still in provision. I feel this is one of the better PC interviews of late.

Paul can probably defend himself here, but I believe that he doesn't have the keenest hearing and it must be frustrating to listen to a two and a half hour interview with less than optimal sound quality. I have had some hearing issues myself and can empathize.

[Tommy]

At the end of the day the Bill VS Kerry stuff does not really matter anyway. We do our thing and Bill does his, I see nothing wrong with that :)

[ThePythonicCow]

Oh well, I did not really have any problem with this, neither does anyone else to my knowledge. I used laptop speakers when listening.
Sorry - I should have noted that I am hearing challenged - deaf in one ear and can't hear too good out of the other one. So the dynamic range of sound I can tolerate is "special".

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That's a bit of a pot shot there Paul... Why did you feel the need to compare Bill and Kerry over this?
I was referring to the mic's on Kerry and Bill Wood (nothing to do here with Bill Ryan) :).

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But what about the information Paul? That is surely more interesting that tuning the volume button ey?
:)
I haven't gotten far in the interview yet ... other things distracting, and I have to ride herd on the gain.

[DoubleHelix]

Oh well, I did not really have any problem with this, neither does anyone else to my knowledge. I used laptop speakers when listening.
Sorry - I should have noted that I am hearing challenged - deaf in one ear and can't hear too good out of the other one. So the dynamic range of sound I can tolerate is "special".

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That's a bit of a pot shot there Paul... Why did you feel the need to compare Bill and Kerry over this?
I was referring to the mic's on Kerry and Bill Wood (nothing to do here with Bill Ryan) :).[COLOR="red"]



Well I feel like a royal goose now... My apologies Paul! ..and as some someone just mentioned before.. I do remember Rob stated that your hearing wasn't A1... my bad.

[Tommy]

Oh well, I did not really have any problem with this, neither does anyone else to my knowledge. I used laptop speakers when listening.
Sorry - I should have noted that I am hearing challenged - deaf in one ear and can't hear too good out of the other one. So the dynamic range of sound I can tolerate is "special".

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That's a bit of a pot shot there Paul... Why did you feel the need to compare Bill and Kerry over this?
I was referring to the mic's on Kerry and Bill Wood (nothing to do here with Bill Ryan) :).

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But what about the information Paul? That is surely more interesting that tuning the volume button ey?
:)
I haven't gotten far in the interview yet ... other things distracting, and I have to ride herd on the gain.

Ahh.. I was not aware of that Paul, sorry about that :)

But that brings up an important point though,
I will make the decision here and now to create an enhanced audio version of it once we get to the mp3.. I am stuck in command line world with the sites at the moment, writing in-between waiting for stuff.

Looking forward to hearing your thoughts, I will remember to post the mp3 version here once it's done!

Cheers

[CD7]

Good interview!! I thought he did a great job explaining his story and experiences! Ive always viewed "ufo s" as our own...be real interesting when EVERYTHING becomes VERY APPARENT :shocked:

[ThePythonicCow]

Looking forward to hearing your thoughts, I will remember to post the mp3 version here once it's done!
I'll look forward to listening to it. Thanks!

[778 neighbour of some guy]

Just finished watching, thought it was good, Kerry was not that annoying, did'nt get any bad vibes with the man and his sincerety .

That man was in control and sounded like he knew what he was talking about, i sincerely hope things will work out for the better and there will be no mistakes made by the good guy in the chessgame.

[ROMANWKT]

This is one of the most important interviews that I had the pleasure to witness, it just about told and confirmed all the things that I had been waiting for, I love that guy, hes got and has shown the greatest Ba££s of any whistle blower yet, the content and the answers were mind blowing, I believe him, that's what has made the difference for me, yes I know we had all heard most of this, but this was the one, and I hope that there is more and that this guy can be protected, he covered your spiritual and your material, listen again carefully.

Regards to all
roman

[aranuk]

I thank Kerry for that interview. Bill Wood came across to me as truthful. It was heartening to hear that on December of this year things are gonna change for the better. That in itself made it worth watching and listening to.
I thank you too Tommy.

Stan

[ThePythonicCow]

I will make the decision here and now to create an enhanced audio version of it once we get to the mp3.. I am stuck in command line world with the sites at the moment, writing in-between waiting for stuff.
I finally just got to 34 minutes into this, where they go inside to a "more private" location, with less background noise. Bill Wood is easier to understand now, though the difference in mic levels is still substantial.

[jjjones]

seeingterra thank you so much, great video, interview by kerry and infomation by bill wood. would very much like for kerry to have interview number 2. namaste, love and peace universally! :)

[jackovesk]

New Release! Today I am releasing my interview with Bill Wood : Above & Beyond Project Looking Glass:
The substantial difference in audio volume between Kerry's mic and Bill's mic makes listening difficult. When it's loud enough to hear Bill, then Kerry is way too loud.

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I have had to replace 2 computers with updated editing equipment and now one of my cameras is broken and needs to be replaced. Please help by donating if you are able. Thanks very much.

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[DreamsInDigital]

Good interview!! I thought he did a great job explaining his story and experiences! Ive always viewed "ufo s" as our own...be real interesting when EVERYTHING becomes VERY APPARENT :shocked:
Well, they're not all our own...

[TelosianEmbrace]

In the early part of the interview, his struggle with his conscience over his role in killing innocent people comes out loud and clear. I send a prayer to all those still living and affected by these actions. I ask that they experience in their lives to come the goodness and kindness of the human spirit, that their faith in their fellow human is restored.

Bill Wood seems genuine enough, and the message that what we envision for our future is what we create for ourselves is both timely and universal.

[aranuk]

Did you hear what Bill said about beating up his opposite seal team member? He said he hospitalized him because the other seal didn't fight back. He obviously too was shook up knowing what he had done. Good young men were being bullied into killing women children and innocent men to cause the survivors to turn into suicide bombers. So sad for everyone involved. God bless their souls.

Stan

[Intranuclear]

I must say that I feel privileged to have seen this interview. Thank you many times!

[ThePythonicCow]

Ok - made it all the way through. My initial impressions:



His history in Iraq, bombing villages in the 1990's, with the apparent intent of stirring up deep hatred toward the U.S., as part of kicking off the War on Terror post 9/11, that all seems very real and spot on.

His analysis of 9/11 itself, attributing the collapse of the World Trade Center buildings to a controlled demolition and the attack on the Pentagon to a Tomahawk cruise missile, seems straight forward enough, but (so far as I could tell) based on second hand reports, plus his own experience with cruise missiles and blowing buildings up. If there are more layers to the 9/11 story, such as Judy Woods writes of, he didn't speak to that. His concern for the treasonous destruction of our (U.S.) rights sure seems justified to me.

The advanced black ops space travel technology starting at 1:47:20, and the Looking Glass, yellow cube and Dec 21, 2012 raising of awareness, starting at 1:59:37, are biggies. I'm skeptical myself that any anticipatable major event or transition will occur on Dec 21, 2012, but I would be ... tending toward the unenlightened conspiratorial side of things. Whether that's a strength or a weakness of mine ... guess I'll have a better idea Dec 22, 2012.

Bill Wood speaks well and clearly for himself here, and Kerry clearly has an important interview in this one. Thanks.

[schneider]

I really enjoyed the content of the interview but it certainly felt disjointed, probably due to difficulties in the filming. This guy had so much information on so many different topics it was hard to believe, but it feels like the truth. What an incredible time to be on earth. Let's all hear it for time line 1.:dance:
thanks kerry, great interview

[ViralSpiral]

I too very much enjoyed the interview and extend my sincere thank to both Kerry and Bill


Bless you!!!

[Kristo]

Thank you Kerry and Bill.... Great vibes sent out due to this enlightening interview for those who choose to accept it :)

[wolf_rt]

Best interview Kerry has done... i am 100% confident there was no disinfo in this man's testimony...

I was able to fix the audio, by forcing a mono output (i am able to do this easily with my new linux OS \o/ )

i also sent a email to Kerry regarding the Left -Kerry, Right - interviewee, audio problems... ( i have to listen with headphones as my stereo has dropped a channel)
Simply having mono audio would fix the majority of the listening problems as far as i can see.

[ThePythonicCow]

Simply having mono audio would fix the majority of the listening problems as far as i can see.
Bingo!

Bill Wood is on the right channel and Kerry on the left channel.

I only listen on one side - my left. This is why I was hearing Kerry loud, and Bill soft.

When I put my headphones on backwards, now Bill is loud and Kerry soft :).

Thanks wolf_rt!

[Referee]

I have not yet finished. The video kept freezing on me. I am not sure if it my PC or the feed. I will finish tonight.

[Muzz]

Got this from Greg Goebel's In The Public Domain (http://www.vectorsite.net/index.html) site. I am unfamiliar with him or his site so discretion is advised.

[4.0] ALCM & SLCM

v2.0.5 / chapter 4 of 7 / 01 apr 10 / greg goebel / public domain

After their initial use in DESERT STORM, cruise missiles increasingly became a prominent weapon for the selective application of US military power:

On 16 January 1993, the US Navy launched 45 Tomahawks as part of a limited air offensive against Iraq. These Tomahawks were aimed at the nuclear development facility at Zaafaraniyah. Some sources claim other Tomahawks were fired at the same time, and also hit Iraq's intelligence headquarters late that year, but details are unclear.

On 10 September 1995, the US Navy also launched 13 Tomahawks against surface to air missile sites in Bosnia as part of Operation DELIBERATE FORCE, the successful UN/NATO effort to force Serbia to the peace table.

On 3 September 1996, the US launched two attacks against Iraqi air defense sites, in response to Iraqi harassment of Western aircraft patrolling the no-fly zone. Along with attacks by strike aircraft, 13 CALCMs were fired from B-52Hs flying out of Guam, while 31 SLCMs were launched by US Navy vessels in the Persian Gulf.

The attacks were generally successful, but flawed by hasty planning. The first wave of attacks was believed to have generally achieved their objectives, but the second wave was regarded as ineffectual. There were reports of CALCM failures and planning glitches that targeted some of the CALCMs on hardened facilities where their fragmentation warheads would have no effect.

On 20 August 1998, 13 SLCMs were launched against a suspected chemical weapons factory in the Sudan, and 66 were fired at six guerrilla training camps in Afghanistan, for a total expenditure of 79 missiles. The missiles were launched by two Navy vessels in the Red Sea, and five vessels, including a submarine, in the Arabian Sea.

The strikes were in retaliation for terrorist bombing attacks on US embassies in Nairobi, Kenya, and Dar es Salaam, Tanzania, that killed more than 300 people, and were intended to disrupt plans for further attacks. The terrorist bombings were believed to have been masterminded by Saudi dissident Osama bin Laden, and the missile strikes were timed to coincide with a gathering of guerrilla leaders at the camps.

Many concerns were voiced about this strike, suggesting that the US government was engaging in a blind policy of "cruise missile diplomacy". The attack on the factory in Sudan was devastatingly effective, though the Sudanese government claimed it was a pharmaceutical plant and protested loudly over the attack. However, it appeared that the guerrilla camps were heavily dug in, and without detailed post-strike reconnaissance there were doubts that the strikes had been effective. Critics suggested that the Tomahawk strikes should have been accompanied by B-52 carpet-bombing, or that a commando raid would have inflicted more damage and obtained better intelligence. US government officials replied that the attack was proportionate, and that there was no political consensus that would have permitted heavier attacks or American casualties.

On 16 December 1998, the US and Britain initiated Operation DESERT FOX, a series of air attacks on Iraqi air-defense sites, using B-1 bombers, strike aircraft, and cruise missiles. About a hundred targets in central and southern Iraq were hit. The attacks were focused on weapons of mass destruction and their development centers, military command and control centers, and the installations of Saddam Hussein's "bodyguards", the Republican Guard.

The US used Tomahawk cruise missiles to destroy Iraqi attack helicopters, and also to attack an airfield where Iraqi jet trainers were being converted to drones for spraying chemical or biological warfare agents. Missile development facilities were hit, but the US took precautions strikes against chemical and biological weapons development centers lest dangerous releases of agents occur. "Inferno" warheads that generate enough heat to destroy such agents are under development but such "agent defeat" warheads were not available at that time.

The USAF's B-52H bombers also participated in DESERT FOX, launching the big-warhead Block 1 AGM-86C CALCMs on 17 December. 90 CALCMs were launched in all, along with 330 Tomahawks, for a total of 420 cruise missiles, almost a hundred more than were expended in the Gulf War.

In 1999, the British Royal Navy closed a deal to acquire 65 Block 3 Tomahawk SLCMs, and performed two unarmed and one armed test launches from the attack submarine HMS SPLENDID, with tests ending in November. The British were the first, and so far the only, nation to acquire the Tomahawk from the United States. The tests were completed just in time for the British to begin practicing cruise missile diplomacy.

On the night of 24 March 1999, NATO aircraft struck at targets in Yugoslavia and Kosovo as part of Operation ALLIED FORCE, the NATO response to fighting in Kosovo. The first wave of attacks was led by cruise missile strikes. USAF B-52Hs fired CALCMs. The Royal Navy also used their new Tomahawks in action for the first time, with the SPLENDID firing them at Yugoslav air defense systems along with Tomahawks fired by US Navy ships. A total of 100 cruise missiles were launched by USAF bombers and US Navy vessels, along with the British contribution.

link to article (http://www.vectorsite.net/twcruz_4.html)

Update. Info about the author/site (http://vectorsite.net/idx_ud.html)

[EnergyGardener]

Seeingterra,

Please see if "off-camera" Bill Wood indicated who or what the "Winner" he spoke of is? If not, please ask this question with a telephone call.

Whether the answer is human (or not), please ask him to identify the off-world support that has disabled CERN, nuclear actions and all other military and financial actions of the Illuminati that he (and others) said are crumbling. I am presuming there is no positive human entity that has a benevolent fleet of space-travel vehicles and strength that can accomplish this... But ask him anyway. Then, please ask him specifically if that is the Galactic Federation, a specific race leading the point, or an alliance of other races.

Seeingterra, this would be very helpful to know. And, it would be good to also ask him to explain in more detail how he knows this information (see Lazlo's comments).

Thank you,

[Realeyes]

I wanted to post my BIG THANK YOU'S to Kerry and also Bill Wood for this dynamite interview! Wow, so many topics were coverd in 2 1/2 hours in simple terms that most people would be able to understand. Kerry's questions were brilliant!

I feel very spiritually uplifted with what Bill Wood said regarding 2012 and the Timeline convergence and vote for Timeline 1!!!!. Since a toddler in the 1970's, I just knew that in my lifetime something extraordinarily magical and wonderful was going to happen to human consciousness around the World, where the breath of God/Source would lift the veils of limitation into 'pure knowingness' - I called this event back then as a toddler the 'Grand Finale'.

It is so uplifting to know the winning post is now in sight. Let's all occupy our 'hearts', raising the 'frequency' - Cinderella is about to get invited to the Grand Ball!

[778 neighbour of some guy]

Thanks for this video seeing terra, great interview watched it two times, Kerry does great as well.

I wonder if his 8 team mates will ever come out with their stories, should be pretty interresting, hope he blazes the trail for them as well.

Good to hear he treads carefully and with diplomatic caution to prevent getting busted and to not overstate his story, i know a few cucumbers who are less cool then this fellow.

Tomahawks are quite stupid he pointed out, this is good news, bad news still is stupidity kills also, even if directed by skilled hands.

Imagine being the sailor who fires one of these murdermachines, you get a set a set of coordinates wich are (legitimate)for deniability purposes only, and this thing gets taken of course by manual control by a dude with joystick and nobody will ever know what happened. The lie is different at every level but this goes for doubt, learning and thruth as well. ( we all have experienced this in our lifetimes i pressume, dealing with info and disinfo and making heads or tails out of it for ourselves)

Nice to hear him about the pentagon missile, this man actually knows how to handle these things because he flew a few of them and knows what results they deliver( a what they dont deliver).

NDAA, i am not from the states and can only imagine what this will do for your personal freedoms, hang on to your guns, at least you can have those for the time being. ( not for em, be the alternative sucks even harder). By the way, it wont take long before this will happen in Europe as well, it sure smells like it.

I hope all this fantastic technoly will be released very soon and put to work for the greater good of mankind and undo the unjust madness they dumped into our minds, hearts, souls, intellect, trust, hopes, dreams and loves, no more fighting over resources, make the transportation of them free and availeble to all and we can share virtually everything we can imagine/produce.

I want to see those off world bases, i am going nuts trying to make sense out of al this second or third hand info/disinfo.

Looking glass, TPTB seems to have lost sight of their own arses even with this technology if indeed in existance( never seen one so dont know for sure).

Nevertheless if in existance ( looking glasses technology) seems to predict a bad and stinky outcome for TPTB, this sounds great to me, hope they wont do anything funny to screw up our lives even more while waiting for their demise/downfall( however i fear this)

The wicked witch ? What DID they see in their magical mirror, they are scared as i understand but of what exactly, i find some comfort in the idea TPTB are sheeple too, with their fears, anxieeties, frustrations, crying, praying, hoping, no difference there apparently.

I am not getting the yellow cubie thingie at all, its a piece of not yet quite understood technology which we are not yet mature or advanced enough for to fully understand. So we`ll just be guessing about what it really is and what it can do. Sounds like a piece of smart cheese to me, dont know what to mix that or how to use it properly either, eat it when moldy and you will see strange unknown timelines too.

Hope for sure this high stakes chessgames will be won by the good guys, lets send good vibes, Please provide adress.

Lets take the ascending butterfly option.

[schneider]

that was a great interview.
Wow Kerry, you struck gold with this whistle blower. This guy has a lot of information and is so articulate and careful when he responds. I want to hear more from him. The looking glass technology is bizarre. Can anyone explain how it works. Is it off world technology that we captured from a crashed ufo or was it given to us by aliens. I recently heard Dan Burrish on the jeff rense radio show talking about the two time lines and he said there is an 85 percent confidence level that there is a 19 percent chance that time line 2 will occur. So let's do everything we can to make time line 1 our reality. Thanks Kerry and Tommy- great interview.

[aranuk]

Well so far here, the concensus is good isn't it? Most of us who have commented on the interview are quite positive in regard to authenticy of the revelation from Bill Wood. Nobody seems to think he is lying in his testimony. I think his story must surely be in the top five whistleblowers interviewed by Kerry and Bill. As the Beach Boys said Good, good, good Vibrations.

Stan

[Gardener]

Oh! I wish I could share all your sentiments, it's too hard to watch right now. I got to 34 min like Pauls first listen, and had to turn it off. I will finish watching for sure, but it had such a bad energetic effect on me which I am still processing. Not the content though a lot of that was difficult, it was the incredibly tension in the man, the human being, the fear. Perhaps he may benefit from talking to Duncan O' Idk he seemed dissociated, or fighting another dissociated part. But that in itself doesn't explain why I 'got into' the feelings physically in pain from the shoulders up and over the top of my head. Grrrrrrrr.
If anyone can throw any light on this I would be grateful. (It's never happened before)

g

[Camilo]

The las half hour of the interview is dinamite.

[EnergyGardener]

Oh! I wish I could share all your sentiments, it's too hard to watch right now. I got to 34 min like Pauls first listen, and had to turn it off. I will finish watching for sure, but it had such a bad energetic effect on me which I am still processing. Not the content though a lot of that was difficult, it was the incredibly tension in the man, the human being, the fear. Perhaps he may benefit from talking to Duncan O' Idk he seemed dissociated, or fighting another dissociated part. But that in itself doesn't explain why I 'got into' the feelings physically in pain from the shoulders up and over the top of my head. Grrrrrrrr.
If anyone can throw any light on this I would be grateful. (It's never happened before)



Gardener (I like your name),

I got negative, but sympathetic, vibes. I can see the stress in every word. I still thought he looked pretty good considering the permanent affect from the drugs (and likely shock therapy) he received, not to mention what stress he is acting under as a potential martyr. Yet, imagine his relief now that he got the truth out. I believe we should thank him with love and light.

Of course, there is always the concern that he remains fully employed (because as I've seen written before, he remains alive) and remains as a psyops.

But, considering for a moment that good things do happen when we ask for them, I prefer to acknowledge that we owe Bill Wood (and all those brave souls at PA and PC) so much gratitude for stepping forward for the benefit of all mankind.

[Kano]

In a word: rivetting. Probably one of if not the best interview Kerry has done. Thanks very much for bringing us this interview, Kerry. I wish I was rich so I could help with getting new cameras and mics so you could continue to produce such awe-inspiring interviews. But alas, I am just a pauper and my small donations is all I can afford.

Keep up the good work!

Cheers,
Kano

[mountain_jim]

At 2:09:17, the look Kerry gives to us the audience as she says 'monumental' is priceless. (when talking about the supposed 2012 timeline singularity)

For those here who consider the word/concept of ascension to be religious new age goobledegook only, might want to watch this interview.

[CD7]

Posted by christinedream7 (here)
Good interview!! I thought he did a great job explaining his story and experiences! Ive always viewed "ufo s" as our own...be real interesting when EVERYTHING becomes VERY APPARENT

Well, they're not all our own



Perhaps this is true...But one of the most important points made in the video when he discussed US instigating HARM on its own AND THEN SETTING THE STAGE to blame "another". This was a snippet of what is HAPPENING ON A GRAND scale --you (anyone) WOULDNT BELIEVE how many ideologies, humanitarian institutions, "axis of evil" ALLLLLL HALE FROM THE SAME SOURCE...under the guise of "different puppet masterz" to blame. This is one of the biggest deceits of our TIMESSSSSSS.

If we truly lived in an "ancient" time with no electricity and those in power HARNESSED AND OWNED electricity....MANY Magik trix CAN be accomplished to deceive ANYONE.

[GoodETxSG]

Crazy times... The crooked government (NON) Representatives are yanking our rights right from uder us and what are we doing about it? Have you written your State Rep? Have you set up a petition in any of the 18 States that have Laws to recall your Reps? Have you planned any type of protests? Well.. lets see... NDAA Passed, CHECK... SOPA and other Bills such as the one in play now to take away our Citizenships... About to be CHECKED OFF... FEMA Camps built and staff being trained... CHECK... Martial Law Decalaired and the DIA lists of everyone that visits these sites rounded up... STAND BY... Time to make this viral to all of the Blogs you visit, friends and family you know are like minded... Do something (NON VIOLENT, Think MLK/Ghandi) or you cannot complain when this all goes down.

One group on Facebook I started: NDAA Vote Your Rep. OUT of Office Movement
We need to start more groups and step up the pressure. Including protests at the Federal Reserve Locations with signs... WHERE IS MY and MY CHILDRENS 26 TRILLION DOLLARS?

CoreyG/Texas

Looks like I have a topic for my First Thread.

[Kerrigan]

Interesting, the helicopters!

A good cue on the credibility of the Bill!

This is an excellent interview to distribute!

Thanks Kerry <3

[778 neighbour of some guy]

Looking glass is real, perhaps not in the way other people thought...

I believe they have MANY methods of peering into futures/alternatives/probabilities. Both technological, and..."spiritual" (psychophysiologies)

Watching now :)

IMHO the spiritual path offers better possibilities, but nevertheless its always a question of interpretation and the quality of the "looker'. Everybody had a dream come to life at least once in a lifetime, let alone deja vu moments.

[ghostrider]

Dan Burisch had come out recently saying he was told to tell what he knows by majestic, and he did an interview and spoke of t-1 and t-2 now this guy Bill comes out and spills the beans talking of timelines and such. maybe the end game is right around the corner , even earth is groaning to give birth to something new..... you can feel it everywhere you go everyday....

[sargeist]

is he refering to using the Yellow Book to look forwards, because i was under the previous impression that it was an historical record, as in it only looks back. Or is this something else?

[wolf_rt]

Dan Burisch had come out recently saying he was told to tell what he knows by majestic, and he did an interview and spoke of t-1 and t-2 now this guy Bill comes out and spills the beans talking of timelines and such. maybe the end game is right around the corner , even earth is groaning to give birth to something new..... you can feel it everywhere you go everyday....

dont suppose you have a link to that interview ghostrider?

think i found it
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=AYyEhKlVLWM

[Referee]

Interesting and credable interview IMO.

Nice work Kerry!

[Vitalux]

Just a kind note ...a word to the wise, always bear this in mind.:warning2:

At the very beginning of this documentary, Bill Wood emphatically states:



Disclaimer for a project that he is using on a personal level

Hi, I just wanted to disclose to everybody that I am writing a fictional book about this interview and the things that I discuss in this interview and the reason for this interview is for purposes of marketing that book and that book of course is fictional.

Upon reflection,....there are some things about the story that are not congruent for such a story to be fully real.

Hence, if there are lies in the story which also contains truth, how do we know what to believe? I'm confused:

It is always good to take a good hard look at the evidence before we really believe anything.....a wise man said :wizard:

mod edit: a graphic photo & language pointing to it were removed. They were unnecessary in explaining the point....Dawn

[astrid]

Good use of NLP Gary.
Very impressive

[eaglespirit]

ALL bets are off !!! The perpetrators ARE Going, Going, Gone !!!
Simply "Live It" as though it IS !!!
BE as GOOD from Within as You Can Possibly Muster, Guys and Gals !!!
And the 'seemingly' Impossible WILL Occur !!!

[CdnSirian]

Just a kind note ...a word to the wise, always bear this in mind.:warning2:

At the very beginning of this documentary, Bill Wood emphatically states:



Disclaimer for a project that he is using on a personal level

Hi, I just wanted to disclose to everybody that I am writing a fictional book about this interview and the things that I discuss in this interview and the reason for this interview is for purposes of marketing that book and that book of course is fictional.

Upon reflection,....there are some things about the story that are not congruent for such a story to be fully real.

Hence, if there is a turd in the punch bowl, do we still drink the punch? :confused:

.....................http://a4.ec-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/46/6e6803910324439abf7c5479c64669c0/m.jpg

it is always good to take a good hard look at the evidence before we really believe anything.....a wise man said :wizard:

Whitley Streiber gives the same disclaimer in "Communion" explaining that he consulted an attorney about the possible consequences of revealing his information, and was advised to publish it as a novel. Which he did. And still does.

[eaglespirit]

Whitley Streiber gives the same disclaimer in "Communion" explaining that he consulted an attorney about the possible consequences of revealing his information, and was advised to publish it as a novel. Which he did. And still does.

Thank You for making it as clear as a bell, CdnSirian : )

[sleepy]

xxxx xxxxxx

[jcocks]

At 2:09:17, the look Kerry gives to us the audience as she says 'monumental' is priceless. (when talking about the supposed 2012 timeline singularity)

For those here who consider the word/concept of ascension to be religious new age goobledegook only, might want to watch this interview.

But it is, in the way that the new-age community believes it will happen. It's nothing like that, we probably won't even realise that we've been through it until a year or two later, after many of the monumental changes in society have occurred...

I've been through the process before, and my gut tells me (as I do not remember the last time I went through it) that almost everyone is wrong when they talk about how it will happen. It's best for us to just let things unfold and have faith that it will all work out for the best, trying to fight or overly influence the process willl only do more harm than good. Remember that everything we go through happens for a very good reason, which we often do not see until after the fact.

We willl begin the upliftment this year for sure, and it is a very, very positive experience... but it will not be complete this year, and we should not expect anything but be open to EVERY experience the universe has for us :)

[Vitalux]

I liked the way Kerry conducted this interview. It was a good interview. I find it difficult to get my head around the fact that an elder tribesman from a nomadic tribe in Iraq with a total of three buildings in it knew that something big was going to happen with pilots. Iraq had nothing to do with 911. Doesn’t anyone else find that odd? That part of the story does not ring true to me.

Thank you .....so much ....I found someone ...in here that actually .....woke-up.

If you review the facts of the interview you will discover that this guys states

1 . He joined the Military when he was 20 years old.

Before he was 21 years old, they gave him top secrete clearance to " Area 51" - to view alien space ships, to "Looking Glass", to Stargate etc....and ....asked him personally to try and resolve the riddle for them of how " Project Looking Glass" was unable to view past 2012. He said he already understood " string theory"

Doesn't anyone else find this a bit NUTS that a guy about 21 years old did all that.

The rest of his career 1992 to 2000 he states he only was involved in the Navy as a tomahawk technician.

Would it not be a bit ridiculous for someone to join the military and be given a clearance to that stuff that would normally involve a level of top secrete that would be up around the stratosphere?

The strange part....is people are .....:mad2: because I am pointing out ......what I guess they do not want to hear........The Truth....


The whole story is Fiction :juggle:

[sleepy]

xxxxx xxxxxx

[CdnSirian]

"1 . He joined the Military when he was 20 years old.

Before he was 21 years old, they gave him top secrete clearance to " Area 51" - to view alien space ships, to "Looking Glass", to Stargate etc....and ....asked him personally to try and resolve the riddle for them of how " Project Looking Glass" was unable to view past 2012. He said he already understood " string theory"

Doesn't anyone else find this a bit NUTS that a guy about 21 years old did all that.

The rest of his career 1992 to 2000 he states he only was involved in the Navy as a tomahawk technician."

I don't remember that at all. If I have time I will listen to it again. But I think you have those numbers wrong.

[ponda]

I find it difficult to get my head around the fact that an elder tribesman from a nomadic tribe in Iraq with a total of three buildings in it knew that something big was going to happen with pilots. Iraq had nothing to do with 911. Doesn’t anyone else find that odd? That part of the story does not ring true to me.


Yes sleepy that was info that i found very interesting.

Now if what he was told was true then what might it mean.Remember that the Elders village was taken out not long after he got back by another crew.

It might imply that some part of the military/establishment or some 'other' group was in the early process of organizing 911.I think it was Aaron Russo who said that one of the rockefellers told him that something big was going to happen and then a war would be started and that the military would be chasing after Arabs in caves etc.What the Elder said fits in perfectly with what Aaron Russo said.

'they' might of been 'using' disgruntled Arabs as one part of the operation.It is possible imho.The people in the village were nomads who wandered around and might of heard some rumor from another nomad etc.Who really knows ? Interesting none the less

cheers

[astrid]

Just up on Kerry's blog

"LIVESTREAM EVENT : BILL WOOD ex-Navy Seal- Q&A TUESDAY NIGHT 7PM PST ... JOIN US... "

No link as yet.

[gooty64]

Gary, you really have a lot of gif's to share!

[Hughe]

I have respect for his courage to come forward for the interview. His opinions and facts support other whistle blowers testimony.

Bill Wood ever said we will ascend at the end of 2012? He only mentioned several times the time lines is going to converge. Anyone who really studies hard sciences will know convergence is one of fundamental property in nature. I guess the super equation used by the time monitoring device has periodic nature. We are at the very of one cycle so that no matter what time lines they put in, it produces one solution - singularity: zero or infinity. (In science zero is a symbol opposite to infinity. The number zero nullify our universe too.)

[Aryslan]

Just finished watching it. I suspect this man is telling his version of the truth. Let us hope he is correct. It is a good thing there are places such as this that spread love worldwide.


Edit: No, these are not the driods you are looking for. We may move along now.

[crosby]

Dan Burisch had come out recently saying he was told to tell what he knows by majestic, and he did an interview and spoke of t-1 and t-2 now this guy Bill comes out and spills the beans talking of timelines and such. maybe the end game is right around the corner , even earth is groaning to give birth to something new..... you can feel it everywhere you go everyday....


i believe Dan B., came out with his statements a couple of years ago. i remember watching a youtube vid., that was made after the project camelot interviews and split; and i think it was filmed by either his wife or Marcia M., regarding more information being released from him by permission of the M12. i don't recall him giving the convergence date as 2012 in those interviews. i will try to find the vids and post them. but i'm quite sure that there is several years in between. now, i realize that there is a relatively new radio interview with Dan and Marcia, but from what i could discern, it was a recap of what he had talked about a few years ago.
regards, corson

i found it:

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[jaybee]

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Watched the interview last night. Thanks to Kerry and seeingterra for it.

I feel cautious about what was said and the motives of Bill Wood for coming forward.

He seems to have issues with his former employers, the navy/military and is trying
to get himself off the registered sex offenders list? Plus there was the incident
when he nearly killed the guy who he said was responsible for bombing the 'asset'
villiage in Iraq.

Then he was hospitalized and drugged up to the eyeballs.

Now I don't want to be too down on Bill Wood....he had some interesting (albeit
rather upsetting) things to say about covert war and those Tomahawk missiles.

I feel that these bits are probably true?


But I wonder if he approached Kerry and wanted to get this interview out as a kind
of protection for himself in some way...ie. get the alternative crowd supporting him?


He seemed a mixture of iron control, careful wording...but under the surface,
extreme stress and tension...which is perhaps how people in the military have to be and why they can be like a coiled spring ready to blow...and we hear about the high percentage of military personel who have to deal with mental illness after they return home.


One bit that stuck out for me, was when he said about the Looking Glasses not being in use any more because they 'kept saying the same thing'...ie...nothing after 2012. I don't buy this. I think that, if they exist they would be in operation. If only to see if the 2012 'result' still stood. (I am not paricularly perturbed by the 'nothing after 21 Dec 2012 thing...if it's correct, because it could just be the time frequencies will change...there does seem to be something brewing re. this year)




The helicopters at the first location were a bit strange...maybe he is a 'marked man' for what ever reason? And is seeking protection through publicity...

On the positive side...I did watch the whole thing because it was fascinating on different levels.

And Kerry did a good job.

[Jenci]

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The helicopters at the first location were a bit strange...maybe he is a 'marked man' for what ever reason? And is seeking protection through publicity...




Strange ?.....or a set up. Did this look genuine?

At 5.00 we are told that they have to film in public but they can't say why.
At 30.00 the helicopter problem is mentioned.
at 33.30 they move because of the helicopters, the earlier mention of having to film in public for certain reasons is forgotton. The viewer is left with no doubt that the helicopters are there because of them, Kerry even mentions that she has all this on film which she will use and talks of the possibilty of electronic pulses destroying film.

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Let's not forget that Bill opened the interview with his disclaimer that he had written and book. We now know this was a lie.


To any fools who believe the disclaimer/insurance policy at the beginning of the Bill Wood video ...need to get real and wake up and smell the napalm! He is trying to stay out of jail and alive!!! -- and you can quote me -- Kerry


Jeanette

[jaybee]

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The helicopters at the first location were a bit strange...maybe he is a 'marked man' for what ever reason? And is seeking protection through publicity...




Strange ?.....or a set up. Did this look genuine?

At 5.00 we are told that they have to film in public but they can't say why.
At 30.00 the helicopter problem is mentioned.
at 33.30 they move because of the helicopters, the earlier mention of having to film in public for certain reasons is forgotton. The viewer is left with no doubt that the helicopters are there because of them, Kerry even mentions that she has all this on film which she will use and talks of the possibilty of electronic pulses destroying film.


yes it was all very 'cloak and dagger'...

just running with the point you have made about possible set up for a mo...

I suppose he could be another sort of 'Charles' character?

To lead us astray? Undermine Camelot/Avalon. Waste our time.....dunno.

.

[Phoenix1304]

[QUOTE

Two things should be noted:

1. I don't think Kerry ever rushed to get an interview out like she did with this one, certain fine tuning like audio-levels takes a lot of processing time.
Personally I do not see the need to do this, perhaps with the MP3. The interview is in Stereo Audio (two channel). She did not have anyone to man the camera\mic controls either this time. (I am in Norway at the moment), same problem she had with Barry King and Eva back in May last year (alone with the cameras)

2. We barely got working equipment at all at this point. Cameras and new mic's (also needed) are pretty expensive as everyone is probably well aware off.
As you might have noticed she used only one camera now, the other one died the other day..

But what about the information Paul? That is surely more interesting that tuning the volume button ey?
:)[/QUOTE]

It was rough and ready and that's part of the charm of PC, it's grass roots, we don't need to see Kerry 'glammed' up being a 'presenter', I appreciate her 'realness'. She asked some tough questions and I'm glad she pushed it over the child rape defamation although God knows my heart bleeds for this boy (I'm old enough to see him as a boy now) I just wanted to clutch him to my bosom, stroke his head and say 'I'm so sorry'. I felt his pain, he still carries it. He had a savage awakening and is an important player. Courageous isn't a big enough word for him, his compatriots really need to hurry up and get behind him. I hope we see many more whistleblowers as a result. The real heroes.

He was so tense, with MIB breathing down his neck, it must be hard to relax. I wanted to know more about 2012 and Looking Glass and his involvement there (and it took an AWFUL long time to get there...I was learning more about missiles than I needed to know), I think he wants to clear his name, quite rightly, and warn us about the NDAA and is living on the edge in order to do so. I'm glad there's a group of galant knights (and female oathkeepers?) that are protecting him now. I've heard testimony about 'timelines' but it's little more than sci-fi to me, this and yellow cubes that I've never heard of, seem to be spoken about as accepted reality in the community. Could someone give a link re the yellow cubes?

Trying to keep this post short, but this notion of convergence is a recurring one amongst those I resonate with like Drunvalo and Ian Lundgren. Unity Consciousness seems to be what's coming.

This interview could have been a lot shorter, but I understand eagerness to get it out there makes refined editing a time consuming hassle and I can imagine Kerry having many conflicts with a ruthless editor! She and Bill (Ryan) were really a very good team. The balance he brought to interviews was helpful. It would have been really good to have seen the three of them round the fire in conversation. Just saying....

I have a vid camera that I rarely use that I will gladly donate, it's not professional kit but it would have shot a much better quality video than the second part of this. I'm curious as to whether donations to the PC site are not adequate to buy such things? I imagine many generous benefactors. Maybe I'm wrong. Meanwhile, if you need someone to hold the tripod when shooting in UK, let me know.

Thank you so much for this interview.

[ponda]

Yes the Timeline Convergence aspect was interesting.i interpreted the convergence as that the truth was going to come out and all that had been hidden would be revealed.Whatever the ptw tried to input into the looking glass had no effect on the outcome.Say they tired to input ww3...same outcome.They tried to input Solar Mass ejection etc...same outcome.They input bluebeam...same outcome.They might of been influenced by the 'looking glass' for quite some time and have used it too their advantage BUT maybe there is more to the bigger picture than 'they' are aware of assuming that this tech is for real.Big year ahead

[wolf_rt]

New Release! Today I am releasing my interview with Bill Wood : Above & Beyond Project Looking Glass:
The substantial difference in audio volume between Kerry's mic and Bill's mic makes listening difficult. When it's loud enough to hear Bill, then Kerry is way too loud.

Oh well, I did not really have any problem with this, neither does anyone else to my knowledge. I used laptop speakers when listening.

Two things should be noted:

1. I don't think Kerry ever rushed to get an interview out like she did with this one, certain fine tuning like audio-levels takes a lot of processing time.
Personally I do not see the need to do this, perhaps with the MP3. The interview is in Stereo Audio (two channel). She did not have anyone to man the camera\mic controls either this time. (I am in Norway at the moment), same problem she had with Barry King and Eva back in May last year (alone with the cameras)

2. We barely got working equipment at all at this point. Cameras and new mic's (also needed) are pretty expensive as everyone is probably well aware off.
As you might have noticed she used only one camera now, the other one died the other day..

But what about the information Paul? That is surely more interesting that tuning the volume button ey?
:)

The audio is the main component of a production like this... its pretty important... If I hadn't of been able to force a mono output on my pc (one voice in each ear on headphones is VERY off-putting), i wouldn't have listened to the video, so i wouldn't have the information.

running some audio compression, and converting to mono, took about 7 minutes of processing time, on free software (Audacity) for the last video from Kerry... apparently over 150 people just from this site, found the audio bad enough to choose to listen to the converted version i put on that thread...

Indeed the information is the important thing... but why let 30 seconds of processing time (to convert to mono) or even 10 minutes (to do compression) hinder peoples ability to access the information?

[Phoenix1304]

Oh! I wish I could share all your sentiments, it's too hard to watch right now. I got to 34 min like Pauls first listen, and had to turn it off. I will finish watching for sure, but it had such a bad energetic effect on me which I am still processing. Not the content though a lot of that was difficult, it was the incredibly tension in the man, the human being, the fear. Perhaps he may benefit from talking to Duncan O' Idk he seemed dissociated, or fighting another dissociated part. But that in itself doesn't explain why I 'got into' the feelings physically in pain from the shoulders up and over the top of my head. Grrrrrrrr.
If anyone can throw any light on this I would be grateful. (It's never happened before)

g

I felt something similar and took it in two one hour doses. I think empathy is something that is going to be more noticeable in many of us. As a lifelong empath I can say that I felt his pain, anguish, sense of outrage and betrayal, so much suffering, albeit vastly diluted. I wanted to hug him, send healing, spiritual healing, plain old simple love and reassurance that there is goodness in the world. I trust he has that in his life. I didn't feel he was disassociated at all, and guess that his high intelligence and psychic ability has a lot to do with his survival of the chemical onslaught he endured.

I also idly wondered if the compassion, love (and gratitude even) that viewers feel, if directed with intent would help soothe his troubled soul even via the video??

[Star Tsar]

Just up on Kerry's blog

"LIVESTREAM EVENT : BILL WOOD ex-Navy Seal- Q&A TUESDAY NIGHT 7PM PST ... JOIN US... "

No link as yet.

I can't see that on Kerry's blog...

[Vitalux]

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The helicopters at the first location were a bit strange...maybe he is a 'marked man' for what ever reason? And is seeking protection through publicity...




Strange ?.....or a set up. Did this look genuine?

At 5.00 we are told that they have to film in public but they can't say why.
At 30.00 the helicopter problem is mentioned.
at 33.30 they move because of the helicopters, the earlier mention of having to film in public for certain reasons is forgotton. The viewer is left with no doubt that the helicopters are there because of them, Kerry even mentions that she has all this on film which she will use and talks of the possibilty of electronic pulses destroying film.

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Let's not forget that Bill opened the interview with his disclaimer that he had written and book. We now know this was a lie.


To any fools who believe the disclaimer/insurance policy at the beginning of the Bill Wood video ...need to get real and wake up and smell the napalm! He is trying to stay out of jail and alive!!! -- and you can quote me -- Kerry


Jeanette

I'm glad that others are starting to see the obvious.

For all we know, they could have been sitting in a Mall parking lot where they were giving helicopter rides to the public.

If I was a producer doing a documentary, and helicopters starting buzzing the set, the documentary would then turn in the direction of an investigation to to why the helicopters were buzzing the mall.

Having a video camera on set, I would think that Kerry would have asked her cameraman to go outside and video tape and show the helicopters buzzing the place.
Plus as further investigation I would have done some inquiries to try and learn what was the possible reason why the helicopters showed up at that time.

She fails to do either.

She just leaves us with the notion that military was buzzing her set with helicopters to intimidate her guest from talking.

Think about it, if you were doing an interview at a mall, and suddenly a fleet of firetrucks and ambulances were buzzing around where you were, don't you think you would have turned the video camera in that direction to catch a glimpse.




Jeanette, I know you obviously have snapped out of the "trance like state' that other members of this community are currently in.

The statement by Bill is an example of a "Paradox" and also hinges on a Oxymoron.

Paradox: a paradox is a logical statement or group of statements that lead to a contradiction or a situation which (if true) defies logic or reason.

Hence; " Everything I tell you is a lie (fictional)" is the same as saying " I always lie" which is a paradox, because if he always lies, than how can this statement be true.

Members getting caught up in this MIND-CLUSTER-SCREW have fallen victim to one of the easiest tricks in psychosocial warfare.

Like you, I am now very skeptical of Kerry Cassidy's (the producer) motives.

[jaybee]

Like you, I am now very skeptical of Kerry Cassidy's (the producer) motives.


I am not sceptical of Kerry's motives. She seems to embrace -getting stuff out there and letting the viewer/listener make up their own mind...use their own judgement.

But I AM sceptical of Bill Wood's motives, as I said in a previous post.

[gooty64]

Jaybee, I would concur with your entire message here.

One bit I would add to your mention of 2012, Looking Glass, and not seeing beyond that timeline is that George Kavassilas has mentioned in a recent interview a similar statement about not seeing beyond dec 2012.

Kavassilas was referring to information from the Montauk project that projected just white light after dec 2012.


.


Watched the interview last night. Thanks to Kerry and seeingterra for it.

I feel cautious about what was said and the motives of Bill Wood for coming forward.

He seems to have issues with his former employers, the navy/military and is trying
to get himself off the registered sex offenders list? Plus there was the incident
when he nearly killed the guy who he said was responsible for bombing the 'asset'
villiage in Iraq.

Then he was hospitalized and drugged up to the eyeballs.

Now I don't want to be too down on Bill Wood....he had some interesting (albeit
rather upsetting) things to say about covert war and those Tomahawk missiles.

I feel that these bits are probably true?


But I wonder if he approached Kerry and wanted to get this interview out as a kind
of protection for himself in some way...ie. get the alternative crowd supporting him?


He seemed a mixture of iron control, careful wording...but under the surface,
extreme stress and tension...which is perhaps how people in the military have to be and why they can be like a coiled spring ready to blow...and we hear about the high percentage of military personel who have to deal with mental illness after they return home.


One bit that stuck out for me, was when he said about the Looking Glasses not being in use any more because they 'kept saying the same thing'...ie...nothing after 2012. I don't buy this. I think that, if they exist they would be in operation. If only to see if the 2012 'result' still stood. (I am not paricularly perturbed by the 'nothing after 21 Dec 2012 thing...if it's correct, because it could just be the time frequencies will change...there does seem to be something brewing re. this year)




The helicopters at the first location were a bit strange...maybe he is a 'marked man' for what ever reason? And is seeking protection through publicity...

On the positive side...I did watch the whole thing because it was fascinating on different levels.

And Kerry did a good job.

[SEAM]

Just a kind note ...a word to the wise, always bear this in mind.:warning2:

At the very beginning of this documentary, Bill Wood emphatically states:



Disclaimer for a project that he is using on a personal level

Hi, I just wanted to disclose to everybody that I am writing a fictional book about this interview and the things that I discuss in this interview and the reason for this interview is for purposes of marketing that book and that book of course is fictional.

Upon reflection,....there are some things about the story that are not congruent for such a story to be fully real.

Hence, if there is a turd in the punch bowl, do we still drink the punch? :confused:

.....................http://a4.ec-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/46/6e6803910324439abf7c5479c64669c0/m.jpg

it is always good to take a good hard look at the evidence before we really believe anything.....a wise man said :wizard:

This is the only way anyone can tell the truth... to come out up front and say this is a book of fiction. Senator Bob Graham of Florida did the same thing after spending many years on the Select Committee of Intelligence. It's the only way to NOT commit treason...

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/reliable-source/post/bob-grahams-new-spy-thriller-about-911-fiction-says-the-former-senator-with-some-slightly-closeted-real-information/2011/06/15/AGneySWH_blog.html

My take.. (but what do I know?) He is a body builder.. B.B.'s take steroids. Steroids create anger.. anger issues unresolved, dellusionally make us to do and say things we might not ordinarily say... That's one. (Minor, yet telling)

Two.. when he said the Ascension is Number one and destruction is Number two.. He gave Kerry ample time to deduce that second place is as good as last place.. she didn't catch it.. (Her mind was racing at that point) He kinda shut down after that exchange.. I thought it spoke volumes...

He may or may not have gotten ALL of his data, from the Net, OR, He is telling the truth.

I give it a 6 of 10... The first two hours are extraneous.. except for the choppers. I wish Kerry had started with the Gate/Glass portion and proceeded from there.. but again, what do I know?!

[EnergyGardener]

Avalonians,

Here is my simple suggestion: That we subscribed to this forum because we trusted the intent and appreciated the great risk and expense that is being incurred by founders, faithful volunteers and the financial supporters; and

That as adults, we participate realizing that the body of work that they have created is provided quickly "as-is" for us to utilize for our personal discernment; and

That if everything was perfectly packaged, delayed with days of editing and mixing to avoid any criticism of its quality or delivery, the message might not be so perfectly honest in its raw form; and

Yes, the forum does take some wading through with frequent nose holding. This is one of those times, but not for any fault of Kerry.

But, should you remain a member of a forum after you question the financial motives and truthfulness of its founders? I could certainly appreciate the accusations you are making, but only if they were expressed as a key point of your membership cancellation notice...

[Jenci]

.

The helicopters at the first location were a bit strange...maybe he is a 'marked man' for what ever reason? And is seeking protection through publicity...




Strange ?.....or a set up. Did this look genuine?

At 5.00 we are told that they have to film in public but they can't say why.
At 30.00 the helicopter problem is mentioned.
at 33.30 they move because of the helicopters, the earlier mention of having to film in public for certain reasons is forgotton. The viewer is left with no doubt that the helicopters are there because of them, Kerry even mentions that she has all this on film which she will use and talks of the possibilty of electronic pulses destroying film.

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Let's not forget that Bill opened the interview with his disclaimer that he had written and book. We now know this was a lie.


To any fools who believe the disclaimer/insurance policy at the beginning of the Bill Wood video ...need to get real and wake up and smell the napalm! He is trying to stay out of jail and alive!!! -- and you can quote me -- Kerry


Jeanette

I'm glad that others are starting to see the obvious.

For all we know, they could have been sitting in a Mall parking lot where they were giving helicopter rides to the public.

If I was a producer doing a documentary, and helicopters starting buzzing the set, the documentary would then turn in the direction of an investigation to to why the helicopters were buzzing the mall.

Having a video camera on set, I would think that Kerry would have asked her cameraman to go outside and video tape and show the helicopters buzzing the place.
Plus as further investigation I would have done some inquiries to try and learn what was the possible reason why the helicopters showed up at that time.

She fails to do either.

She just leaves us with the notion that military was buzzing her set with helicopters to intimidate her guest from talking.

Think about it, if you were doing an interview at a mall, and suddenly a fleet of firetrucks and ambulances were buzzing around where you were, don't you think you would have turned the video camera in that direction to catch a glimpse.




Jeanette, I know you obviously have snapped out of the "trance like state' that other members of this community are currently in.

The statement by Bill is an example of a "Paradox" and also hinges on a Oxymoron.

Paradox: a paradox is a logical statement or group of statements that lead to a contradiction or a situation which (if true) defies logic or reason.

Hence; " Everything I tell you is a lie (fictional)" is the same as saying " I always lie" which is a paradox, because if he always lies, than how can this statement be true.

Members getting caught up in this MIND-CLUSTER-SCREW have fallen victim to one of the easiest tricks in psychosocial warfare.

Like you, I am now very skeptical of Kerry Cassidy's (the producer) motives.

Yes, Gary, I hear you :)

The paradox. It's a clever trick. Tell everyone you have written a book as a disclaimer. Everyone believes you. Tell your story. Not everyone believes you. Tell everyone the statement about the book is a lie, when they thought you were telling the truth. Now the people who thought you were lying with your story are not so sure they have read you right, because they thought you were telling the truth when you were lying. So maybe your story is true.

Obfuscation works every time!

I am skeptical about what is going on. On the radio interview with David Wilcock she got someone to phone in to pretend to be someone off-world protecting David. It worked then, why not try something with this.

Why? I think it is part of a bigger game being played. Kerry may very well being sincere in what she is doing and someone else is pulling the strings.

As to Bill, a lot of his story could be true. But considering that he was involved in top secret stuff like looking glass, Area 51 and had Jedi training, you would think that the military wanted to keep him and if they had let him go, they wouldn't let him talk.

The idea that they send helicopters to stop him talking is not something I can believe. These people have no problem with killing someone.

After the interview we are left with the idea about the two timelines and all eyes on December 2012.

Question is - what is happening NOW?
Jeanette

[Tommy]

Hi,

First, thanks for the above post EnergyGardener :)

wolf_rt: Great to hear you took the initiative to create a mono mp3! You are right though, that does not take too long to do. Personally I have been moving sites and doing server admin stuff, so I have not been able to focus on it yet. My plan was to sit down this weekend and run it through Adobe Soundbooth so I could clear out some background noise while I equalized the volume levels before putting it in mono output. If you have a file, would it be ok for us to use it and link it? - Thanks!

As for the thread; Enjoying reading all your views on this. And for those comparing this to "Charles\Stephen" I would not worry that much. We don't let people get too close to our inner workings, not necessarily because we don't trust people, but because it has to do with integrity. We want you to know who stands behind our information and other events, there should be no question :)

Gary A should probably ask for a raise ;)

All the best,

Tommy

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[jaybee]

Jaybee, I would concur with your entire message here.

One bit I would add to your mention of 2012, Looking Glass, and not seeing beyond that timeline is that George Kavassilas has mentioned in a recent interview a similar statement about not seeing beyond dec 2012.

Kavassilas was referring to information from the Montauk project that projected just white light after dec 2012.

thanks for the feedback....:thumb:


re. the Looking Glass and Dec 2012....I came across the 'not seeing beyond 21.12.12' a few years ago...if I remember right, it was from David Wilcock who met a guy called Michael? who had worked at Montauk...who told him that.


As I said, I'm not particularly concerned about it, though.

White light is fine by me...if that's what we get..lol...;)

.

[Unified Serenity]

I wonder how these people are vetted as to the veracity of their claims. Kerry should have shown proof of :

1. Bill was in the military via his dd214. Doesn't have to show all the details, but give something.
2. Give proof he was a SEAL. Don't they get some commendation letters with the appointment as a SEAL? My father was a sniper and my step father was a commando. I have documents of his military career. I have his (step fathers) medals and paperwork of the missions that earned those medals.
3. I did not hear that he was cleared of the sexual charges with the 16 yr old. He said he has to register where he lives as a sex offender. I looked him up in California and he is not in the registry. So, where does he live to verify that claim?
4. He claims to be highly psychic and can remote view. If that is the case, then Kerry should have been able to hand him a piece of paper for a dog and pony show. Just some random numbers given to Kerry by a go between. The real target is several psychic steps away from the numbers and only a good remote viewer will zero in on what the numbers are attached to. Extraordinary claims demand extraordinary proof for me.

He said his book was fiction, he did not say the interview was fiction. The gist of the interview was, "This was his life experiences after joining the military and he was disclosing top secret information". I did not hear anything I had not heard before. If as he claims they have kept a close surveillance on him and did not want him talking, trust me, he would not be freely walking around. He'd have been thrown into jail and rotting somewhere or rotting somewhere in the ground or sea.

If you are being harassed by helicopters and apparently need to interview in public for some undisclosed reason (Maybe her carpet was getting shampooed at home) then how can you just up and leave when the bad lil military helicopters keep buzzing about? How do we know the public place was not between the airport and the beach where they take trips to all the time? We are left with this drama of harassment. If they know you are there then what's the big deal to just turn a camera on them? I mean really? What are they going to shoot you from a gunner position hollywood style for daring to step outside?

Again, it seems contrived to me. If you did not like the helicopter noise and left, just start the interview over or that segment over and do it in private just as they did to finish the interview. It looks very set up to me to add believability to the story.

Lastly, if any 25 yr old man was having sex with my 16 year old daughter he better hope to his God, his mamma or his own ability that I not know about it because I would end it very fast. What does a 25 yr old soldier have in common with a 16 yr old girl? That is just ridiculous. Oh yeh, she consented. Give me a damn break. Let's go back to the age where a 13 yr old can consent. Why stop there? Hey it's free will, a 10 yr old can be very mature too, we have special children these days who come in fully knowing and aware they must be able to consent because they are special, right?

By his own admission he's a rapist. End of story. No guilt over it. No statement of wrong doing. Just that he was railroaded by the military over it. He's damn lucky he didn't have both arms and legs broken, all his teeth kicked out, and his testicles crushed. What an example of a soulless individual. If that story is true it puts a high liklihood that he is a sociopath. Fun interview to watch in the sense of "oooh secrets to learn" but nothing of value imho, oh yeh except to continue to spread the rumor that we are going to ascend whether we want to or not.

[Tommy]

Hi US,

There has been some checks yes, some verifications, yes.

Stay tuned for further backing up of his story, we are in contact with other people from the military in regards to this story. We are working as hard as we can to get some of these people to come "on-the-record"

Also, feel free to join Tuesdays live Q&A event :)

All the best,

Tommy

[jaybee]

Hi US,

There has been some checks yes, some verifications, yes.

Stay tuned for further backing up of his story, we are in contact with other people from the military in regards to this story. We are working as hard as we can to get some of these people to come "on-the-record"

Also, feel free to join Tuesdays live Q&A event :)

All the best,

Tommy

In spite of my reservations about Bill Wood.....I want to thank you for your hard work and dedication, Tommy :thumb:

[jackovesk]

I wonder how these people are vetted as to the veracity of their claims. Kerry should have shown proof of :

1. Bill was in the military via his dd214. Doesn't have to show all the details, but give something.
2. Give proof he was a SEAL. Don't they get some commendation letters with the appointment as a SEAL? My father was a sniper and my step father was a commando. I have documents of his military career. I have his (step fathers) medals and paperwork of the missions that earned those medals.
3. I did not hear that he was cleared of the sexual charges with the 16 yr old. He said he has to register where he lives as a sex offender. I looked him up in California and he is not in the registry. So, where does he live to verify that claim?
4. He claims to be highly psychic and can remote view. If that is the case, then Kerry should have been able to hand him a piece of paper for a dog and pony show. Just some random numbers given to Kerry by a go between. The real target is several psychic steps away from the numbers and only a good remote viewer will zero in on what the numbers are attached to. Extraordinary claims demand extraordinary proof for me.

He said his book was fiction, he did not say the interview was fiction. The gist of the interview was, "This was his life experiences after joining the military and he was disclosing top secret information". I did not hear anything I had not heard before. If as he claims they have kept a close surveillance on him and did not want him talking, trust me, he would not be freely walking around. He'd have been thrown into jail and rotting somewhere or rotting somewhere in the ground or sea.

If you are being harassed by helicopters and apparently need to interview in public for some undisclosed reason (Maybe her carpet was getting shampooed at home) then how can you just up and leave when the bad lil military helicopters keep buzzing about? How do we know the public place was not between the airport and the beach where they take trips to all the time? We are left with this drama of harassment. If they know you are there then what's the big deal to just turn a camera on them? I mean really? What are they going to shoot you from a gunner position hollywood style for daring to step outside?

Again, it seems contrived to me. If you did not like the helicopter noise and left, just start the interview over or that segment over and do it in private just as they did to finish the interview. It looks very set up to me to add believability to the story.

Lastly, if any 25 yr old man was having sex with my 16 year old daughter he better hope to his God, his mamma or his own ability that I not know about it because I would end it very fast. What does a 25 yr old soldier have in common with a 16 yr old girl? That is just ridiculous. Oh yeh, she consented. Give me a damn break. Let's go back to the age where a 13 yr old can consent. Why stop there? Hey it's free will, a 10 yr old can be very mature too, we have special children these days who come in fully knowing and aware they must be able to consent because they are special, right?

By his own admission he's a rapist. End of story. No guilt over it. No statement of wrong doing. Just that he was railroaded by the military over it. He's damn lucky he didn't have both arms and legs broken, all his teeth kicked out, and his testicles crushed. What an example of a soulless individual. If that story is true it puts a high liklihood that he is a sociopath. Fun interview to watch in the sense of "oooh secrets to learn" but nothing of value imho, oh yeh except to continue to spread the rumor that we are going to ascend whether we want to or not.

Its taken a while, but I have different view on this one Christina...

1. Bill Wood is not his real name...its a (pseudonym) so no wonder you could'nt find out the info your were looking for...

2. He has been vetted by 'Oath Keepers', please don't start bagging Oath Keepers..!

3. He had consensual sex with a girl, he later found out she was 16 years old. (He did'nt RAPE her) Then it was (Wrongfully) used against him by the Military, when he did'nt follow orders to Kill some more innocent people.

4. He was upfront with his book disclaimer stating it was going to be Fictional - Using Fictional Characters to keep him out of the courts.

Can I suggest listening to Tuesdays live Q&A event before going any further...

Kind Regards,

Jack :)

[Unified Serenity]

Jack,

I did not get any sense that he did not know she was 16 at the time. I watched the entire interview. He did not make any statement to that fact of him being duped. He simple said they used it against him. Then, he shows no remorse for having done so whatsoever. A statement of "Had I known she was only 16 I would have never been involved with her" would have gone a long way for me. He simply stated she consented and it was legal in California for a 16 yr old to consent. Thus, he definitely gives the impression he knew and since it was legal he was ok with it. If I am wrong about him not knowing please give me the place in the interview he said that.

He very well could have been in the military. Saying it does not prove it. If he was in the military that does not prove his claims of being a special psychic working on top secret projects. My point is that I have watched a lot of WB videos and rarely is proof shown to back up simple claims. I would imagine he could have some photos of himself in uniform with his buddies in the warzone that would not be top secret. It's not hard to show a military document that is NOT top secret showing orders to move to a new base, a promotion, or appointment to a new department or ship. It's shoddy journalism in my opinion to not offer some basic proofs.

I can understand putting for a fictional work heavily based on facts to avoid trouble. I do not believe that is what Kerry is promoting, otherwise she would not be putting this out as whistle blower information. A fictional story does not need a disclaimer. The whole helicopter bit was to add believability to the story.

At this point, I think it's more drama and "stay tuned" oh yeh, and "Click donate".

[Lazlo]

ARGGHHHHH!

I just wrote a really long post and it disappeared into some cyber black hole when I hit post (Temporary connection loss) I don't have the time to do it all over, so here's the short version.

Anyhoo...Even if Bill Wood wasn't a pseudonym...the Cal sex offender page says that they have about 22,000 offenders that are known only to law enforcement so no surprise that he didn't show up in the search. Ditto for Nevada and Arizona.

I believe that he was a Fire Control Tech, and even that he was working covertly.

But no way did he get the full dossier on the space program first hand, even if the Looking Glass gurus decided that they needed to be consulted by a 20-25 year old sailor.

I am going to play along for this because it is such a compelling story, But there is simply too much that doesn't add up. I'll be staying away from the koolaid on this one ;)

And I'm with you Serenity, good thing it wasn't my sixteen year old daughter. It's just creepy. If his judgement was that poor after 7 years of military training and running covert ops.......or if he knew better and was following his hormones around....what the hell was he doing anyway, hanging around the mall and picking up chicks after school?

[Ecnal61]

i have watched the interview and found it to be very good IF bill wood is being honest,hopefully he`s not another "charles", and i got a feeling that he is on the level, and at the end when he speaks about ascension i could`nt help but get a little bit tense cos surely thats everyone`s dream...isnt it?

[Cidersomerset]

Just a point before we brand him a 'pervert', in virtually all countries in Europe the age of sexual consent is 16yrs.........

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ages_of_consent_in_Europe#Albania

If theres anytruth to his claims, and he is not another 'plant' we should soon find out, by what
happens next..


He did commit a crime in the US but just putting in perspective..

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U.S._state

[Unified Serenity]

Just a point before we brand him a 'pervert', in virtually all countries in Europe the age of sexual consent is 16yrs.........

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ages_of_consent_in_Europe#Albania

If theres anytruth to his claims, and he is not another 'plant' we should soon find out, by what happens next..

That doesn't make it right. That is not even close to acceptable to most Americans, and in most states it is rape if the parties are not nearly the same age if under 18. So, 25 yr old massive psychic gets his fulfillment in deep relationships with 16 yr olds. God, I just can't believe the justifications.

In some countries 9 yr olds can marry. I guess that's good too?

[Cidersomerset]

NO...... but before you get your 'knickers in a twist' don't condemn him before we have got the message......

[Unified Serenity]

I'm taking the guy at his word, he blames the military for using it against him, but he never says it was a bad move or even feels badly about it. So, he gives off the impression he knew and it was legal and therefore ok, or he was duped and it's all her fault. Sounds typical of a sociopath to me, but that's just a gut feeling.

[Kano]

Bill Wood's version of events does coincide nicely with Terrance McKenna's Timewave 2012 theory. Of course, Bill Wood could be playing on McKenna's work but it is interesting that they seem to have come to the same conclusions from very different paths which gives it more credence.

Kano

[Cidersomerset]

I agree he commited a crime under California law and is paying for it, and he is upfront he may have another oppertunity to spell out his regrets in another interview...

I accept he has done wrong inyour and other americans eyes.......and I don't particularly like it either, just pointing it out...

[ROMANWKT]

Now we can plainly see why Bill Ryan has no intention of interviewing any body with the mob attitude here, I know you all think you're very smart at deducing, but as always you have no proof or info to debunk Bill Wood, one starts and the another one follows so on, give it a break and deal with the issues that were put forward, not judge and prejudge, yes I know you call this being awake, BU££$HIT.

roman

[gooty64]

Don't kill-skewer-slaughter-ax-murder the messenger.


Now we can plainly see why Bill Ryan has no intention of interviewing any body with the mob attitude here, I know you all think you're very smart at deducing, but as always you have no proof or info to debunk Bill Wood, one starts and the another one follows so on, give it a break and deal with the issues that were put forward, not judge and prejudge, yes I know you call this being awake, BU££$HIT.

roman

[mountain_jim]

Bill Wood's version of events does coincide nicely with Terrance McKenna's Timewave 2012 theory. Of course, Bill Wood could be playing on McKenna's work but it is interesting that they seem to have come to the same conclusions from very different paths which gives it more credence.

Kano

Funny, I had not thought about McKenna's take on this recently.... And I have a signed poster and book from him at his Magic Maui Weekend 1994.

So the supposed Looking Glass results, similar Montauk future-viewing, McKenna, La Violette's SuperWave, and don't forget RA's Law Of One 'Harvest' channelings from the 1981 or so all relating to some major discontinuity of current life and times:


Questioner: Am I to understand that the harvest is to occur in the year 2011, or will it be spread out?

Ra: I am Ra. This is an approximation. We have stated we have difficulty with your time/space. This is an appropriate probable/possible time/space nexus for harvest. Those who are not in incarnation at this time will be included in the harvest.



Concerning the scary term 'Harvest' , a partial definition in the channelings I resonate with is :


with individuals finding the gateway to intelligent infinity.

[EnergyGardener]

Now we can plainly see why Bill Ryan has no intention of interviewing any body with the mob attitude here, I know you all think you're very smart at deducing, but as always you have no proof or info to debunk Bill Wood, one starts and the another one follows so on, give it a break and deal with the issues that were put forward, not judge and prejudge, yes I know you call this being awake, BU££$HIT.

roman

I agree. The nerve of an imperfect person daring to speak the truth... What was anyone thinking?

How can any of us ever provide service to each other if our past mistakes, misfortunes and problems deem us unacceptable witnesses and messengers?

This reminds me of, "Let he who has no sin cast the first stone." and "He that lives in a glass house should not throw stones."

I hope that you realize that one of the requirements for Illuminati service is to have cataloged one or more transgressions that may be used as blackmail, if loyalty becomes an issue, which thankfully, is here. So, the report of serious issues are to be expected from any whistle-blower, for two reasons: They are human and they were required for their service.

I appreciate healthy skepticism, but not for this reason.

[161803398]

I'd say he likely didn't know her age and he was probably set up. He obviously feels embarrassed about it. In the first part of the interview he sounds like he knows what he is talking about. The only part I don't get is this little village knowing about 9/11. That isn't explained. The last part sounds like he has gotten interested in some of the information on the internet and is following and, in fact, speculating about what he understands from that. He is also possibly exaggerating what he knows for effect. I think the part about writing a book is probably not true and just said as some kind of protection so he could claim it was all fiction if the PTB went after him. He's not a totally likeable guy but he does seem honest at the start. He may think he knows more than he does. He seems to be in a lot of emotional pain and is trying to control his stress.

The part about bombing little villages is true - the rest of the world knows about and I've heard this many times before from many different sources.

[winston smith1971]

Unfortunately i haven't had time to watch all of the video but Jim Marrs' account of the Aurora UFO Crash in 1897 plus other evidence of recovered UFO technology before even Roswell, would lead me to speculate the advance technology we must have reverse engineered by now, would result in the secret space fleet. I mean the stealth fighters were developed officially 1981-83 (1960s really) which is 30 year old tech, and the third Reich UFOs were on the drawing boards in the 1940s. The tech we really have would be on par with star trek/ stars wars by now. But they cart out the shuttle as the pinnacle of human achievement, what really grinds my nuts is when so-called experts dismiss ET contact because of the vast distances involved yes with our official tech it would be impossible but last year on coast to coast there was a nuclear physicist who has at the lab level created anti-grav he believes it is possible to create a bubble of space/time around a ship which could then travel instantaneously any where.

[Vitalux]

I'm taking the guy at his word, he blames the military for using it against him, but he never says it was a bad move or even feels badly about it. So, he gives off the impression he knew and it was legal and therefore ok, or he was duped and it's all her fault. Sounds typical of a sociopath to me, but that's just a gut feeling.

Thank you Serenity, Jaybee & Jenci , and others, for your courage to speak up too.

It is never a good policy when speaking ones mind about questioning the integrity of information in this forum to be given a mob mentality backlash by others.
That is what I thought separated this group from the dark ages.

What I am learning is, the action being taken by most members here is a psychological term called " Consensus Reality "
Consensus reality is very simple, everyone has agreed that some thing is true even if it isn't.


It's just good to see that I not alone in seeing the facts, rather than the illusion of following Consensus reality.

[Cidersomerset]

What I would like to hear more about is his work with the 'Toma Hawk' missiles at $1.2 million a shot and hundreds of them were fired mainly at buildings using
Destex a much stronger explosive than C 4 ...(with respect with possible use on 9/11)...

http://mil-spec.tpub.com/MIL-E/MIL-E-82732/MIL-E-8273200001.htm

His explanation of how the missile can be flown was basically the same as how drones are flown today.....and could be modified to fly planes...

It ties in well with the Pentagon attack and whatever crashed and made a hole in the field....

Some of the stuff I agree he probably got from the web, but I'd like to hear another interview....

( I' am listening to it again in the background )

As I said on page one of course he could be a plant/fantacist /mind controlled.....
but we have got to give him a chance...imho...Steve

[sygh]

Bill Wood is extremely personable, intelligent, and well spoken. He seems pretty well down to earth. He is balanced. It is plain he was in the military, I see it in his personna. I believe him, I hear him mention how the time lines are converging, speaking of the string theory, and I agree with this. He mentions that as we proceed with 2012 and there after, the decisions we make will have less and less of a consequence on the future, and I agree, as the choices we are currently making, and have made, have had exponential effects in nature, in reality and over a longer period of time.

And time, though it does not exist, the things we do over a period of time are, none the less, cummulative. Something big has to come up, and this is where we must concider "the monolith", the obelisk. An organized whole acting as a single unified powerful, or influential force. Hello, Mr. Clarke. Isn't that the big secret? A momentum so great that no matter what road you travel, it all leads to... 100%? No choice is large enough to overcome this event. The talk about the yellow box also makes sense to me. In the wrong hands... but then, the yellow box no longer holds as much import as it once did because the span of time has run its course. Does this bespeak of a long trip taken? I'll have to meditate on that one. Once it was here, now it is gone, as we knew it; nothing stays the same.

I don't know, in some ways this is like asking a man not to struggle while being suffocated. That's one side talking to me. However...

I would also say this was the awakening process on a large scale. The ascension, as opposed to catastrophy, and being driven under ground. Though I do believe there will be people left under ground. Maybe next time we should pick a better bible.

"These are the Days of God." I don't think there are any more questions left in my mind for me to ask about that.

There is no certain date, but make no mistake, a date exists. One cannot blame the whiter powers that be (no race intended) for hedgeing their bets and trying to save some of humanity, as opposed to just themselves, as these people really thought they were doing right, thinking they were the one's who were awake and aware, and were/are too. Funny, I don't feel any different.

Does anyone else wonder what would happen if CERN succeeded?

[christian]

I'm suprised about the interest in his "sex offense".
It seems like some of you have never been 16 - or it's just been a very long time :whip:

There are 60 year olds, who are not as mature as some 16 year olds. Making sex a taboo issue only adds to the minor's confusion and their desire cannot be completly supressed anyway and will find just more unhealthy avenues to express itself. I'd say to my child, if you want to have sex, find yourself a proper mate, be aware of that and those energies, this is how you can do it healthy, this is how you protect yourself, etc. - I'd do that when my child either asks or I get the distinct feeling that it's on its mind.

I guess this kind of talk would either prevent a young teenager from having sex early, they might find it gross, or they would really use the knowledge, that was imparted on them.

This issue is similar to parents telling their children "Don't use drugs", when the parents couldn't tell the difference between pot, LSD, mushrooms, coke, heroin and all the others. That's not how parenting works, you have to tell them, what they are dealing with, what the effects are, what proper doses are and then quite likely they'd stay the hell away from heroin and might want to try something soft one day and you could be with them and support them. - Just saying "don't do it" will add to confusion and when the child tries it anyway, it has no clue what it's doing and that is dangerous. I have seen that quite often, both ways I just described and the open dialogue and non-judgemental company worked much better from what I saw.

To put it in perspective, a child would not have the urgent desire to either try drugs or have sex, they have either other things on their minds or their attention can be diverted to something else easily. But when they naturally have a growing interest in those topics, there's no way around it.

Life is full of magnificient wonders, it's purely holy, but it's people's free choice to fool around. Make sure your child knows about the basic safety rules. Being open in conversation, helping the child to form a balanced and confident character is what you can do.

I have never had sex with a minor, but I have experienced it consentually the other way round. I was surely a fool in many regards and I still am now, but my physical, emotional, spiritual and mental development was sufficient to deal with the situation and in retrospect I'm appreciate those experiences for the lessons, that I learned.

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When I look at Bill's story, this is a total side issue anyways in my mind. :dirol:

[Corncrake]

Bill does not strike me as another Charles and I wonder why that is. Perhaps it is something to do with accents - I could recognise where Charles came from and his wide boy 'attitude' immediately. He put my back up from the beginning and it was interesting to watch the whole Atticus debacle unfold .... but there is a lot of good stuff here. I will wait until the question and answer session before I think about it any more but I am certainly not dismissing him on what he has said so far ....

[sygh]

chiq... well said. Bill was a frickin' kid himself. I don't know where anyone else grew up but sex was great fun at 16 and above, as it is now. This was a set up to get this guy on the chain. You have to remember he was in the military. When he signed on, he agreed to a collar and a leash, even if he was too naive to know it at the time. He was an investment. A big investment. Though I'd trade it for him any day of the week, I'm glad he was now, or he wouldn't be here. But now he is and that makes all the difference.

I wouldn't doubt I've had run ins with these guys seeking info from me in the visceral on Gitmo prisners well before the reality ever took place. Don't get me wrong, I'm not talking like I'm some biggie, biggie; I'm not; I'm being honest.

Everyone (as in the key players) knew about 9-11-01, because they saw it happen before it ever did!!!! I saw it. I saw it, and so did my son!!! I saw Gitmo too but I thought it was in Mexico because of the Spanish I heard (that's how I decifered it, my little addition from the lower mental, not the higher conscience.) Ya think you might be singular, or within a small group but you are not. They let it happen, see???? They allowed 9-11-01 to happen, made it happen, just as what we have been experiencing now what has been seen. I feel Bush knew, as I believe Cheney did too. Rumsfield too. More. They were briefed, or more. Some took advantage of the afore knowledge to make money. These looking glasses are like big computers with scenereos. How large does a monolith have to be?

There ya go. That is the reality. So, we have the purests who do nothing to stop what they have seen, and we have the meddlers. And what changes? Just so long as a good man does it, nothing. Oh but a few good men can tip the scale. So now that we know, that we know, that we know... lets get to it.

Henry!!!!! Clean your room!

[norman]

Any place this is in a mp3 format?

Rich

Try this!

https://www.filemail.com/dl.aspx?id=YJGCNCNVXUFAOAS

[Nerge]

I got a genuine vibe from him and respect him for coming forward. Perhaps it's worth reflecting on what these people often go through and risk by putting their necks on the line to talk about these topics, before judging so quick and harshly.

Constructive skepticism is fine, but many posts on here really seem to have a venom to them and a guilty until proven innocent style; If I'm ever in court I hope they're not on the jury. ;)

Despite what people's opinions are, I think he clearly started she was 16 at the time, which was also technically legal at the time too - regardless of what each person's personal opinion is; perhaps those so quick to judge have no skeletons in their closets - so-to-speak - and are perfect? The guy has guts for putting it all out there, warts and all.

Crikey, if I was in his situation and putting my life at risk to get this info out and this was the reception, well, talk about gratitude. :P

If you don't believe him, fine, but at least show some respect in how you express it, as it often reflects more on you than it ever will the person you're judging - especially with some of the venom filled posts I've seen on here.

Now having said that, here's a :hug:

[EnergyGardener]

I got a genuine vibe from him and respect him for coming forward. Perhaps it's worth reflecting on what these people often go through and risk by putting their necks on the line to talk about these topics, before judging so quick and harshly.

Constructive skepticism is fine, but many posts on here really seem to have a venom to them and a guilty until proven innocent style; If I'm ever in court I hope they're not on the jury. ;)

Despite what people's opinions are, I think he clearly started she was 16 at the time, which was also technically legal at the time too - regardless of what each person's personal opinion is; perhaps those so quick to judge have no skeletons in their closets - so-to-speak - and are perfect? The guy has guts for putting it all out there, warts and all.

Crikey, if I was in his situation and putting my life at risk to get this info out and this was the reception, well, talk about gratitude. :P

If you don't believe him, fine, but at least show some respect in how you express it, as it often reflects more on you than it ever will the person you're judging - especially with some of the venom filled posts I've seen on here.

Now having said that, here's a :hug:

Nerge,

This is an excellent example of, "No good deed ever goes unpunished."

I acknowledge that it took great courage for Bill Wood to first acknowledge his mistakes, and of course, the obligatory "fiction" book announcement, which we now understand the purpose of. It is apparent that he is a very though guy, considering his remarkable survival to date. I do hope that he knows of our appreciation and is exhilarated understanding the accomplishment of his disclosure (I have forwarded to more than one skeptic myself), that it was well worth the negative noise from this thread.

Yet, are we are making it more difficult to compel the next whistle-blower to come forward?

It is my hope that Kerry and our other Camelot friends did not lose heart and courage of their noble purpose by the responses above.

[Tommy]

Hi EnergyGardener,

Not to worry really, if you look at the posting patterns from some of these people it's not really a surprise anyways :)
Very predictable, very old..

And US jumps on the chance any time to get some negative focus, as usual for all the wrong reasons.. Mostly I just feel sorry for these people..

So, no reason the get excited, for us this is business as usual :)

To the vast majority of posters on this thread; Thanks for the discussion, it's really cool to see you have found this interview of value, it makes it well worth all the effort!

All the best,

Tommy

[Kristo]

Agreed Tommy, Here is part of a message between a friend and I. It applies here and I wish more members practiced this rather than feeling the need to even respond to threads they disagree with (all ego imho- not enlightening at all. If we wanted to debate, we would join other, lower vibration forums, and there are plenty to choose from....)
Regarding the pissing matches that seem to go in in many threads.... ""in order to not get frustrated, I try to remember that there are several avenues of interest how people were lead to PA, be it conspiracy theories, hidden archeology, disclosure, or spirituality. This, in my opinion, causes the divided interest.
It is disheartening when members ridicule other's ideas and are condescending. I guess open-mindedness does not correlate with high I.Q. and general respect for others. I peruse the thread topics and skip those that do not resonate, as opposed to piping in and trying to shame others into my mode of thinking. I truly honor every step one needs in order to gain truth and enlightenment, and imho every step is necessary, even if we may have passed it long before. And on the contrary, if something doesn't resonate with me, I set it aside rather than debate or discount it, as some day it may be my next stepping stone of truth and awareness"


... if you look at the posting patterns from some of these people it's not really a surprise anyways :)
Very predictable, very old..

And US jumps on the chance any time to get some negative focus, as usual for all the wrong reasons.. Mostly I just feel sorry for these people..

So, no reason the get excited, for us this is business as usual :)

To the vast majority of posters on this thread; Thanks for the discussion, it's really cool to see you have found this interview of value, it makes it well worth all the effort!

All the best,

Tommy

[Bill Ryan]

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Hi, All:

Having followed the Looking Glass saga closely with Dan Burisch, Bill Hamilton, David Wilcock, Henry Deacon and others, I was intrigued and struck by this interview. It may be important.

http://projectcamelot.org/project_looking_glass.html

I enjoyed Bill Wood's Chess Grandmaster analogy: that well before most of the audience will be aware, both Grandmasters will know that Black will inevitably be checkmated in seven moves -- as long as White doesn't make a silly mistake. Whatever Black does, there's no escape.

Charles once told me something very interesting (in November-December 2010): that one reason why nothing specially bad had happened yet, so to speak, was because using their AI forecasting technology, whatever the controllers did would not work out as they wished. That rang true when I heard it: Bill Wood is saying exactly the same thing.

Note: I believe we need to be a little careful with his 'ascension' reference. He's specifically referring to this as a chrysalis-to-butterfly expansion of consciousness in which there cannot be any more secrets kept, and everything that's been done to the human race to try to control and subjugate it is out in the open. I'll vote for that. :)

[EnergyGardener]

Hi EnergyGardener,

Not to worry really, if you look at the posting patterns from some of these people it's not really a surprise anyways :)
Very predictable, very old..

And US jumps on the chance any time to get some negative focus, as usual for all the wrong reasons.. Mostly I just feel sorry for these people..

So, no reason the get excited, for us this is business as usual :)

To the vast majority of posters on this thread; Thanks for the discussion, it's really cool to see you have found this interview of value, it makes it well worth all the effort!

All the best,

Tommy

Tommy,

I believe US has a great heart and is often a great defender at appropriate times, but does get after it on occasion to the extreme by her own admission.

Thank you for your reassurances of "No Worries." I do feel the need to defend those that (I believe) should be receiving our gratitude rather than ridicule.

And, per your earlier post, I am very much looking forward to upcoming interviews.

Did you or Kerry ever receive the identity or identities of the "Winner" Bill Wood referred to?

Thanks again,

EnergyGardener

[christian]

Note: I believe we need to be a little careful with his 'ascension' reference. He's specifically referring to this as a chrysalis-to-butterfly expansion of consciousness in which there cannot be any more secrets kept, and everything that's been done to the human race to try to control and subjugate it is out in the open. I'll vote for that. :)

There are not only secrets, that the controllers have; there are secrets we are having from each other and also secrets we have individually within, things we do not admit to ourself. If one doesn't face this now, one is in for a suprise later :)

[ROMANWKT]

Sorry Bill, would you explain what you mean ( Note: I believe we need to be a little careful with his 'ascension' reference.) in which way careful.

regards to you
roman

[Bill Ryan]

Sorry Bill, would you explain what you mean ( Note: I believe we need to be a little careful with his 'ascension' reference.) in which way careful.


Careful not to misunderstand what he was saying, and make it mean something else entirely. 'Ascension' has many different meanings and personal interpretations.

Not all interpretations can be correct! Here, Bill Wood is simply referring to an expansion of consciousness. It's been clear for many years that that was in progress. The significant part of the interview, for me, was the suggestion that the game of Black vs White is all but over. I've always sensed that this is possible. Bill Wood's testimony states it's inevitable.

[ROMANWKT]

Yes thank you Bill I understand now, well I just got the most fantastic vibes from !hr 43min onwards, you are also right as accession to me means dying and moving on and so does the chrysalis-to-butterfly means the same to me, yes means different things to other people.

Thank you and regards again
roman

[Cidersomerset]

Just finished listening for the 2nd time and still found him genuine, as usual there are more questions we would all like to ask and I hope we find out more.

I agree Kristo I do not like negativity for the sake of it, it can bring the vibration level down and I tend to stay away from 'gossip' threads...
thats not to say there is no place for them, diversity is the name of the game and we need 'whistleblowers' to come forward if the house of
cards is going to crumble.........'Debate is Great' but ' Intergrity is Essential'.....

http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRnNhBXsSBd428pDyXy2-USWQvGBo2TFF8kcXf7ccmqXret-yTN

[ROMANWKT]

I know what I did forget to say is that I had sent him an email, and thanked him for his courage, and so on, and asked a few questions, about filling the gaps on the Alien problem, as nothing was covered in that direction, he only mention not to wait for Aliens to help us, we wait and see if he answers, billwood1022@gmail.com

regards to all
roman

[norman]

.....accession to me means dying and moving on and so does the chrysalis-to-butterfly means the same to me.......



yea........ that's the backhanded twist to all this positivity thing that creeps me a tad, too.

[ROMANWKT]

.....accession to me means dying and moving on and so does the chrysalis-to-butterfly means the same to me.......



yea........ that's the backhanded twist to all this positivity thing that creeps me a tad, too.

I have always been very suspicious from the start, as I was getting more and more information, as in these past 10 years more and more was available, it made me suspicious in a way that when we started to find that they wanted to get rid of a lot of useless people as they put it, this new age teachings started to appear about spirits and incarnation and thing that even I had been writing about here, there seem to be a perpetration, a mental perpetration for people to not resist, but to die without trouble to the new order, to ascend without any resistance to the order, millions of people just ready to die and give up, because fighting is not the spiritual thing to do. Its almost as if we are ready to ascend without a blink of an eye, brainwashed into just passiveness and being no problem, because we know we are spirit and nothing can hurt us, it all could be just a big con, I know of nobody that has come back from the dead, and I mean real dead, not astral flying, a year later and said yes it all OK, its real.

what do you think

regards
roman

[ponda]

I'd say he likely didn't know her age and he was probably set up.


Exactly.It's important to remember what is behind all of this.It is a higher dimensional negative force.i would assume that everyone involved with this force is set up so as to be able to be controlled.This is one aspect of it.Other ways of being coerced by IT are rituals etc.The break away for Bill came when he decided to not target the 2nd missile at innocent people.IMHO he shook off the negative influence at this point.

[Unified Serenity]

Hi EnergyGardener,

Not to worry really, if you look at the posting patterns from some of these people it's not really a surprise anyways :)
Very predictable, very old..

And US jumps on the chance any time to get some negative focus, as usual for all the wrong reasons.. Mostly I just feel sorry for these people..

So, no reason the get excited, for us this is business as usual :)

To the vast majority of posters on this thread; Thanks for the discussion, it's really cool to see you have found this interview of value, it makes it well worth all the effort!

All the best,

Tommy

Tommy,

I believe US has a great heart and is often a great defender at appropriate times, but does get after it on occasion to the extreme by her own admission.

Thank you for your reassurances of "No Worries." I do feel the need to defend those that (I believe) should be receiving our gratitude rather than ridicule.

And, per your earlier post, I am very much looking forward to upcoming interviews.

Did you or Kerry ever receive the identity or identities of the "Winner" Bill Wood referred to?

Thanks again,

EnergyGardener

Thanks for the comments EG. I have very strong feelings about a 25 yr old man having a sexual relationship with a 16 yr old girl. She's not a woman yet. Few 16 year old American girls are ready to be fully functioning adult women in this country. What would a trained navy seal killing machine have in common with her. It's not like they met at school or in the glee club and hit it off. So, that is a big no no in my book. I remember well what it's like to be 16 and in love. I just didn't date 25 yr old men. Would it matter if he was 35 or 45? I think it's rather sad really the reaction I am seeing some of the reactions on PA over this fact. As for my other views, he was NOT vetted on video in anyway. I did not see anything showing his credentials or a statement to that fact from Kerry. It's not the first time either. We are just supposed to go along and listen.

The statements coming from Bill are just to be accepted and believed at truth when we know nothing of his character, well beyond he likes 16 yr old girls and how he did not like being used like he was by the military. So, I won't rehash my issues, they are there to see. Maybe these points will be discussed in the follow-up. Just remember he's already said it's fictional and he's promoting a fiction book so at this point what is truth and what is fiction?

[jackovesk]

Hi US,

There has been some checks yes, some verifications, yes.

Stay tuned for further backing up of his story, we are in contact with other people from the military in regards to this story. We are working as hard as we can to get some of these people to come "on-the-record"

Also, feel free to join Tuesdays live Q&A event :)

All the best,

Tommy

G'Day Tommy,

Request:

You have witnessed the differing views and conjecture surrounding the 'Bill Wood' interview...

Now more than ever its 'Imperative' to address those concerns some Avalonians/Guests/Truthseekers have on the validity of several of 'Bill Woods' claims...

Many here have been let down in the Past with some of the 'Whistleblowers Testimony' and the obvious questions that surface again & again i.e. 'How do we Know they are telling the Truth, should we just take 'Kerry's & the Whisteblowers' word for it..?

In summation:

1. Please try and address as many of the 'Issues' raised both on this thread & the 'Project Looking Glass & the 2 Timelines merging as 'ONE' in 2012' thread...

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?38851-Project-Looking-Glass-the-2-Timelines-merging-as-ONE-in-2012

&

2. Please give us ample Notice of next Tuesday's Live Q & A with Kerry & Bill Wood (Time), and more importantly (if possible) due to the differing world timezones, could you please provide either a 'You Tube Video &/or a MP3 Podcast' for reference. Allowing those that are intersted to make full use of their 'Discernment' relating to all the 'Issues' raised in this interview.

Thanking you in advance...

Regards,

Jack

[astrid]

http://livestream.com/projectcamelotlive/

Link for Tuesday's show in case its not already posted here..

LIVESTREAM EVENT : BILL WOOD ex-Navy Seal- Q&A TUESDAY NIGHT 7PM PST

[jackovesk]

I'm taking the guy at his word, he blames the military for using it against him, but he never says it was a bad move or even feels badly about it. So, he gives off the impression he knew and it was legal and therefore ok, or he was duped and it's all her fault. Sounds typical of a sociopath to me, but that's just a gut feeling.

There is just (1) 'Key Issue' you are forgettiing Christina...

He did not even have to bring up this information to the surface anyway..!

Why did he do it..?

Because he wanted to lay it all out in there in the public forum and 'Clear a Pathway' to the 'Truth', so it could'nt be used a later date by those who would love nothing more than to 'Discredit' him..!

I repeat...


Can I suggest listening to Tuesdays live Q&A event before going any further...

Your friend...

Jack :)

[Wind]

Edit: Nevermind, I guess I'm blind.

[another bob]

... it all could be just a big con,,,,what do you think

Laughing now, my Friend!

As you yourself have written, it is "all nonsense". Just so, having discarded everything that is nonsense, what remains?

Of course, if you are honest, and have indeed discarded all nonsense, then you can only say, "I don't know".

Any other answer, when inspected, is nonsense, a hallucination, since whatever appears in consciousness is just that.

Of course, if you were to say otherwise, you wouldn't be able to keep a straight face for long, given that it really is all nonsense, and so we are back to "I don't know".

Now, what's really interesting, is that if you were to just stay with that sense of not knowing, rather than falling victim over and over again to the fraud of pretending to be a knower, then something can happen that is totally beyond your facade of knowing, something quite exceptional.

What that is, you alone will find out, because it comes just for you, if you sincerely persist in your not-knowing to the point of availability.

When you become truly available, a lot can happen, and fast -- even in the blink of an eye!

:yo:

[SaiphStar]

The most interesting part of the interview for me was Bill's comments on timeline 1 vs. timeline 2.

He painted a picture of timeline 1 being a positive thing for humankind; the analogy of the rebirth of the sleeping chrysalis into a butterfly. A creature understanding its full potential does not mean it's free from its enemies. It just means their enemies are now viewed from a different perspective, they still pose a considerable threat.

If timeline 1 is now inevitable surely a new strategy is being played. The positive element to timeline 1 is the expansion of consciousness - a knowing. However, the chess pieces are surely being reset for the game of timeline 1. We start again from a new perspective but the threat remains.

Knowing everything does not necessarily give humankind the ultimate advantage. What has happened when individuals have known too much in our history? They have been removed from the game! What happens when the masses gain an awareness? Is the outcome the same but played out at a global level with larger scale chaos and destruction? The outcome of the two timelines does not necessarily feel binary to me. We could indeed be in for some very difficult times ahead of us. Ultimately, there is a longer-term reward waiting for humankind in timeline 1 so I am in no way debating which one is the better of the two scenarios. It's just not black and white.

As a student to the wisdom on these Avalon forums, I'd like to ask this question regarding timeline 1. What does happen if we were to transition into this reality?

- I just wanted to quickly add that given the choice to remain in this current reality or choose to transition to timeline 1, I would take the latter.

[norman]

I have always been very suspicious from the start, as I was getting more and more information, as in these past 10 years more and more was available, it made me suspicious in a way that when we started to find that they wanted to get rid of a lot of useless people as they put it, this new age teachings started to appear about spirits and incarnation and thing that even I had been writing about here, there seem to be a perpetration, a mental perpetration for people to not resist, but to die without trouble to the new order, to ascend without any resistance to the order, millions of people just ready to die and give up, because fighting is not the spiritual thing to do. Its almost as if we are ready to ascend without a blink of an eye, brainwashed into just passiveness and being no problem, because we know we are spirit and nothing can hurt us, it all could be just a big con, I know of nobody that has come back from the dead, and I mean real dead, not astral flying, a year later and said yes it all OK, its real.

what do you think

regards
roman

I think your mind works very much like mine does, on this issue.

There is only one group of people that represent a 'problem' for the planners. That's the group that intend to fight for information, and fight back with that information, and win.

All other categories are variously nobbled and don't present a threat, as far as the planners are concerned.

[sygh]

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Hi, All:

Having followed the Looking Glass saga closely with Dan Burisch, Bill Hamilton, David Wilcock, Henry Deacon and others, I was intrigued and struck by this interview. It may be important.

http://projectcamelot.org/project_looking_glass.html

I enjoyed Bill Wood's Chess Grandmaster analogy: that well before most of the audience will be aware, both Grandmasters will know that Black will inevitably be checkmated in seven moves -- as long as White doesn't make a silly mistake. Whatever Black does, there's no escape.

Charles once told me something very interesting (in November-December 2010): that one reason why nothing specially bad had happened yet, so to speak, was because using their AI forecasting technology, whatever the controllers did would not work out as they wished. That rang true when I heard it: Bill Wood is saying exactly the same thing.

Note: I believe we need to be a little careful with his 'ascension' reference. He's specifically referring to this as a chrysalis-to-butterfly expansion of consciousness in which there cannot be any more secrets kept, and everything that's been done to the human race to try to control and subjugate it is out in the open. I'll vote for that. :)


I'll vote for that too. Here's the thing ...(I think) we've already reached the tipping point -not just one tipping point but many, many, many, many, many tipping points, and we teeter on the brink of all of them. Truely, we are converging, the affects of this are everywhere, like a monolith. If we don't take that seriously, that could be our silly move. We've made so many silly moves, and now, at the end of this span of existence where what we have done with the times, and the half times not only does the silly escalate because there are so many more of us doing silly stuff, silly is stacking up on top of itself long, high, and deep, like an island of stryrafoam floating out on the Pacific riding a wave. Let's just say that was a collective choice. On a very large scale, I would love to see our collective silly stop. Cause right now, all I hear are tiny little voices pleading for mercy; mercy for the wolf, the tiger, the dolphin, the whale, woodpeckers, the bear, the bees, the pelicans, the turtles, the gorilias, the elephants, the fish, the trees, the water, mercy for Africa, squeak, squeak... little tiny voices saying won't you care? Won't YOU give a damn? Send a buck so we can try to keep what'z left until such a time as we... as we what, care?

And here's the point: where's the personally responsible collective voice for any of them???? Where is the overwhelming "I get that it is man who has been so thoughtlessly destructive"? Distructive to the point where he cannot stop his/her collective self from over-fishing the waters, over stripping the forests, etc, etc, etc... Where is the I won't stand for humanity to destroy all the earth's natural resources any longer in some blind leading the blind fashion because I'm not blind any more to what any of us are doing? And where are our leaders voiceing this opinion without getting laughed off stage by the audience?

Yes, we are more than we've been lead to believe -literally. Great! We have an analogy: check mate in 7. And now it boils down to two choices, just two choices. Don't you find that more than a little interesting? Doesn't it always boil down to two choices?

Its either we do or, we don't. Oh, we should but will we? Either we are in this totally (the 100th monkey), or we just let the status be quo. Are we supposed to believe that a few people are gonna pull a wand out of their collective fairy pocket and dob us on our collective third eye where upon all will be right with the world?

Its no longer a matter of whether Bill Wood is telling the truth (and I think he's trying to do a darned good job of it), its a matter of whether or not we are telling the truth. Where do we stand with Bill?

[jaybee]

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Where do we stand with Bill?


which Bill ?


You know...if Bill Wood is a pseudonym...why oh why did he have to use Bill as a first name?

I forsee some confusion ahead. Not here but on other forums where Camelot/Avalon are under the cosh.

:doh:

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[sygh]

.....accession to me means dying and moving on and so does the chrysalis-to-butterfly means the same to me.......



yea........ that's the backhanded twist to all this positivity thing that creeps me a tad, too.

And what if it did mean exactly that? We wouldn't care.

At any rate, I'm not being negative when I say, with enlightenment, one sees one own ****e and it becomes apparant as to what we have to do. I could be wrong, I usually am. Could it be that simple? Once a certain number ascend, the kinetic energy will grow.

[sygh]

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Where do we stand with Bill?


which Bill ?


You know...if Bill Wood is a pseudonym...why oh why did he have to use Bill as a first name?

I forsee some confusion ahead. Not here but on other forums where Camelot/Avalon are under the cosh.

:doh:

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Hee, Hee. Stand with the truth sayers. More than stand with them -speak in terms of being overwhelmingly willing to face ourselves. Be the sort of person (people) who can tell the truth and therefore, handle the truth and thus, be able to handle something like a zero-point generator. Electromagnetics, as we have found, have special traits.

Be willing to live. Be responsible. Stand together across the world for longer than the attention span of a fish in a bowl.

[ROMANWKT]

... it all could be just a big con,,,,what do you think

Laughing now, my Friend!

As you yourself have written, it is "all nonsense". Just so, having discarded everything that is nonsense, what remains?

Of course, if you are honest, and have indeed discarded all nonsense, then you can only say, "I don't know".

Any other answer, when inspected, is nonsense, a hallucination, since whatever appears in consciousness is just that.

Of course, if you were to say otherwise, you wouldn't be able to keep a straight face for long, given that it really is all nonsense, and so we are back to "I don't know".

Now, what's really interesting, is that if you were to just stay with that sense of not knowing, rather than falling victim over and over again to the fraud of pretending to be a knower, then something can happen that is totally beyond your facade of knowing, something quite exceptional.

What that is, you alone will find out, because it comes just for you, if you sincerely persist in your not-knowing to the point of availability.

When you become truly available, a lot can happen, and fast -- even in the blink of an eye!

:yo:

Thank you Bob for your comment and direction, Firstly I have always stated with all people that I had contact with and also in part 2 of its all nonsense that these are the things that I have LEARNT AND READ and offer this information for people to do as they wish with it, Psychology is my approach to this information, as I have placed myself in the middle looking both ways, trying very hard to to explain the mechanics of spiritualism and materialism, I have always studied the mechanics of our existence, but have not committed myself to any order or doctrine as both are and can be created by the mechanics of the mind, therefore is it real, is it reality, is it an illusion, any 3 can come to be a some sort of belief system that humanity is plagued with. I could literally write and book about this and get absolutely nowhere. I have been able to marry the two end of our reality in my mind as to the full potential of our human origin, which to me means that while you are here expand yourself to full potential through understanding of the mechanics of spiritual and material, hence this being said in this thread because Bill Wood stated that as a fact and has himself moved on further that that of his military training.

All Is hypothetical until proven otherwise. there are a few people that are as gifted as yourself here in Avalon, and have and should put their understanding fully on the table, there are many here that will hear and many that wont, though our perspective is our own, and only our own, the mechanics are the same once understood.

Warmest wishes to you Bob as ever
roman

[mahalall]

Thankyou and well done,

Listening with the heart one sees the Sadhu in Bill Wood.

With much metta to you all.

(Maitreya (Metteyya in Pāli) is derived from the Sanskrit word maitrī (Pāli: mettā) meaning "loving-kindness", which is in turn derived from the noun mitra (Pāli: mitta) in the sense of "friend")
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maitreya

[BMJ]

As a student to the wisdom on these Avalon forums, I'd like to ask this question regarding timeline 1. What does happen if we were to transition into this reality?

I believe the veil between the different timelines is thining and this leads me to believe that there is a possiblity that our souls that reside in these various timelines will merge into one.
There was also another thread recently discussing a youtube video by a Japanese princesses talking about 3 days of darkness during december 21 -24, could that be a physical darkness as a result of an eclipse, or could it be a metaphor for the confusion / disorientation we will be experience during these days when the merging begins?

[Wiremu2011]

.....accession to me means dying and moving on and so does the chrysalis-to-butterfly means the same to me.......



yea........ that's the backhanded twist to all this positivity thing that creeps me a tad, too.

I have always been very suspicious from the start, as I was getting more and more information, as in these past 10 years more and more was available, it made me suspicious in a way that when we started to find that they wanted to get rid of a lot of useless people as they put it, this new age teachings started to appear about spirits and incarnation and thing that even I had been writing about here, there seem to be a perpetration, a mental perpetration for people to not resist, but to die without trouble to the new order, to ascend without any resistance to the order, millions of people just ready to die and give up, because fighting is not the spiritual thing to do. Its almost as if we are ready to ascend without a blink of an eye, brainwashed into just passiveness and being no problem, because we know we are spirit and nothing can hurt us, it all could be just a big con, I know of nobody that has come back from the dead, and I mean real dead, not astral flying, a year later and said yes it all OK, its real.

what do you think

regards
roman

Great synopsis mate. Well said, I loved it :)

[another bob]

... though our perspective is our own, and only our own, the mechanics are the same once understood.


Hello my Good Friend, and Thank You for your comments!

I appreciate what you are getting at, and I am just exploring another view with you, which is complementary, but which speaks more directly to our immediate situation, rather than dwelling so much on speculative issues. In my research today, I was able to find a series of letters written by a Korean Zen Master to a student, delving into the mind of "not knowing" that I referenced earlier. It speaks directly to my point. Here it is for your review:


Dear Patricia,

Thank you for your letter. How are you?

You said in your letter that you have read many books about Zen. That’s good, but if you are thinking, you can’t understand Zen. Anything that can be written, anything that can be said – all this is thinking. If you are thinking, all Zen books, all Buddhist sutras, and all Bibles are demons’ words. But if you read with a mind that has cut off all thinking, then Zen books, sutras, and Bibles are all the truth. So is the barking of a dog or the crowing of a rooster. All things are teaching you at every moment, and these sounds are even better teaching than Zen books. So Zen is keeping the mind which is before thinking. Sciences and academic studies are after thinking. We must return to before thinking. Then we will attain our true self.

You said in your letter that your practice has been counting exhalations to ten. This method is not good, not bad. It is possible to practice in this way when you are sitting. But when you are driving, when you are talking, when you are watching television, when you are playing tennis, how is it possible to count your breaths then? Sitting is only a small part of practicing Zen. The true meaning of sitting Zen is to cut off all thinking and keep not-moving mind. So I ask you: what are you? You don’t know; there is only “I don’t know.” Always keep this don’t know mind. When this don’t know mind becomes clear, then you will understand. So if you keep it when you are talking, this is talking Zen. If you keep it when you are watching television, this is television Zen. You must keep don’t know mind always and everywhere. This is the true practice of Zen.


The Great Way is not difficult
if you don’t make distinctions.
Only throw away likes and dislikes
and everything will be perfectly clear.

So throw away all opinions, all likes and dislikes, and only keep the mind that doesn’t know. This is very important. Don’t know mind is the mind that cuts off all thinking. When all thinking has been cut off, you become empty mind. This is before thinking. Your before thinking mind, my before thinking mind, all people’s before thinking minds are the same. This is your substance. Your substance, my substance, and the substance of the whole universe become one. So the tree, the mountain, the cloud and you become one. Then I ask you: Are the mountain and you the same or different? If you say “the same,” I will hit you thirty times. If you say “different,” I will still hit you thirty times. Why?

The mind that becomes one with the universe is before thinking. Before thinking there are no words. “Same” and “different” are opposite words; they are from the mind that separates all things. That is why I will hit you if you say either one. So what would be a good answer? If you don’t understand, only keep don’t know mind for a while, and you will soon have a good answer. If you do, please send it to me.

You asked why I use words to teach, if understanding through words is impossible. Words are not necessary. But they are very necessary. If you are attached to words, you cannot return to your true self. If you are not attached to words, soon you will attain enlightenment. So if you are thinking, words are very bad. But if you are not thinking, all words and all things that you can see or hear or smell or taste or touch will help you. So it is very important for you to cut off your thinking and your attachments to words.

Here is a poem for you:


Buddha said all things have Buddha-nature.
Joju said the dog has no Buddha-nature.
Which one is correct?
If you open your mouth, you fall into hell.
Why?
KATZ!!!
Clouds float up to the sky;
rainfalls down to the ground.

Sincerely yours,

Seung Sahn

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Dear Patricia,

Thank you for your letter. You say that keeping don’t know mind is difficult. If you examine your thinking mind, then it is difficult. You mustn’t examine your thinking mind. Thinking is okay; don’t worry about it. If you are not upset by your thinking, then it is not difficult to keep don’t know mind. At first you will be able to keep it only for a short time. But if you practice with sincerity, it will keep growing by itself.

Your mind is like the sea. When the wind comes, there are very big waves. When the wind dies down, the waves become smaller and smaller, until finally the wind disappears altogether and the sea is like a clear mirror. Then mountains, trees and all things are reflected on the surface of the sea. There are many thought-waves in your mind. But if you continue to practice don’t know mind, this thinking will become gradually smaller, until finally your mind will always be clear. When the mind becomes clear, it is like a mirror: red comes and the mirror is red; yellow comes and the mirror is yellow; a mountain comes and the mirror is a mountain. Your mind is the mountain; the mountain is your mind. They are not two. So it is very important not to be attached either to thinking or to not thinking. You mustn’t be upset by anything that goes on in your mind. Only don’t worry and keep don’t know mind.

You say that in the beginning you were enthusiastic and now you are discouraged. Both extremes are no good. It is like a guitar string; if you make it too tight, it will be out of tune and will soon snap; if you make it too loose, it will still be out of tune and will not play. You must make it just right. Too enthusiastic is no good, too discouraged is also no good. Zen mind is everyday mind. You must keep this mind during every action, eating, talking, playing tennis, watching television, always keep don’t know mind. What is most important is how you keep your mind at this very moment. “Just now mind.” If you have free time, it is good to sit. If you don’t have free time, then just do action Zen.

But be very careful about wanting enlightenment. This is a bad Zen sickness. When you keep a clear mind, the whole universe is you, you are the universe. So you have already attained enlightenment. Wanting enlightenment is only thinking. It is something extra, like painting legs on the picture of a snake. Already the snake is complete as it is. Already the truth is right before your eyes.

It is very true that contact with other Zen students will help your practice. Together action is very important for Zen students. Bowing together, chanting together, sitting together, eating together, this means that your own situation, your condition, and your opinions can disappear much more easily. Zen work is becoming empty mind. Becoming empty mind means having all my opinions fall away. Then you will experience true emptiness. When you experience true emptiness, you will attain your true situation, your true condition, and your true opinions. I hope that you will come often to the Zen Center, do hard training, soon attain enlightenment, and save all people from suffering.

Sincerely yours,

Seung Sahn
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Dear Patricia,

Thank you for your letter. You said that I have helped your practice. This is very good. Zen practice is of the greatest importance. You must decide to practice and very strongly keep this decision. This requires great faith, great courage, and great questioning.

What is great faith? Great faith means that at all times you keep the mind which decided to practice no matter what. It is like a hen sitting on her eggs. She sits on them constantly, caring for them and giving them warmth, so that they will hatch. If she becomes careless or negligent the eggs will not hatch and will not become chicks. So Zen mind means always and everywhere believing in myself. I vow to become Buddha and save all people.

Next, what is great courage? This means bringing all your energy to one point. It is like a cat hunting a mouse. The mouse has retreated into its hole, but the cat waits outside the hole for hours on end without the slightest movement. It is totally concentrated on the mouse hole. This is Zen mind cutting off all thinking and directing all your energy to one point.

Next, great questioning. This is like a child who thinks only of its mother, or a man dying of thirst who thinks only of water. It is called one mind. If you question with great sincerity, there will only be don’t know mind.

If you keep these three, great faith, great courage, and great questioning, you will soon attain enlightenment. You said in your letter that practice is difficult. This is thinking. Zen is not difficult. If you say it is difficult, that means you have been examining yourself, examining your situation, your condition, your opinions. So you say Zen is difficult. And it is not easy. The truth is only like this. Don’t make difficult, don’t make easy. Just practice.

You said that the Zen books which you read shattered your beliefs. That’s very good. But shattered is not shattered. Before, your view was a deluded view. Now it is a correct view. What you believed before was like wanting to hold the rainbow. But the rainbow soon disappears. It never really existed. All things are like this. Before, you believed that all things existed. But now you understand that all things are emptiness. Even so, you must take one step further. Believing or not believing, shattered or not shattered, this is still the area of opposites. You must throw all these opposites away. Then the truth will be only like this. You said that everything was shattered. But this “shattered” is still an attachment to name and form. Originally, there is only emptiness. There is neither shattered nor not shattered. This is the area of the absolute. The absolute is true emptiness. True emptiness is before thinking. Before thinking is like this. Form is form, emptiness is emptiness. So your don’t know mind is true emptiness, is before thinking, is the absolute, is your true self.

The names are all different, but they are all names for clear mind. Originally clear mind has no name and no form. There are no words for it. So if you open your mouth, you are wrong. This is why whenever Zen Master Lin-chi was asked a question, he only shouted, “KATZ!” Dok Sahn would answer only by hitting the questioner. Kuji would just hold up one finger. If you are not attached to KATZ or HIT or one finger, then you will understand that the meaning behind these actions is clear mind. The different actions are just different styles of pointing to clear mind. It is impossible to explain clear mind in words, so the Zen Masters used shouting and hitting and holding up one finger to explain. You must put it down! KATZ is only KATZ, HIT is only HIT, one finger is only one finger. You must understand this. When you say, “I know I don’t know,” this is no good. Don’t examine your don’t know mind.

Life is Zen. But some people say that life is suffering. How are these different? If you make “my life is Zen,” then your life becomes Zen. If somebody else makes “my life is suffering,” then that person’s life becomes suffering. So it all depends on how you are keeping your mind just now, at this very moment! This just-now mind continues and becomes your life, as one point continues and becomes a straight line.

You like Zen, so your life has become Zen. Now you think that the world is wonderful. Your mind is wonderful, so the whole world is wonderful. If you attain enlightenment, you will understand that all people are suffering greatly, so your mind also will be suffering. This is big suffering. So you must enter the great bodhisattva way and save all people from their suffering. I hope that you only keep don’t know mind, always and everywhere. Then you will soon attain enlightenment and save all beings.

Here is a question for you: Somebody once asked the great Zen Master Dong Sahn, “What is Buddha?” Dong Sahn answered, “Three pounds of flax.” What does this mean?

I will wait for a good answer.

Sincerely yours,

Seung Sahn



:yo:

[araucaria]

We have known the ‘limits’ to unerring looking-glass technology for quite some time now.

In ancient Greece, King Laius was told by the Delphic oracle that Oedipus would kill his father and marry his mother. Accordingly, Laius took evasive action, or so he thought. He ordered Oedipus killed, but he was left on a mountainside to die, where he was adopted by some shepherds.

Later consulting the same oracle, Oedipus was told he would kill his father and marry his mother. Accordingly, Oedipus took evasive action, or so he thought. He left his adoptive father and went and killed his real father, and married his mother. The oracle was twice thwarted, and was still right.

Today’s oracle says that the negative forces will be crushed. Regardless of how many initiatives those negative forces initiate to thwart the oracle, it will prevail.

[Vitalux]

I'm taking the guy at his word, he blames the military for using it against him, but he never says it was a bad move or even feels badly about it. So, he gives off the impression he knew and it was legal and therefore ok, or he was duped and it's all her fault. Sounds typical of a sociopath to me, but that's just a gut feeling.

There is just (1) 'Key Issue' you are forgettiing Christina...

He did not even have to bring up this information to the surface anyway..!

Why did he do it..?

Because he wanted to lay it all out in there in the public forum and 'Clear a Pathway' to the 'Truth', so it could'nt be used a later date by those who would love nothing more than to 'Discredit' him..!

I repeat...


Can I suggest listening to Tuesdays live Q&A event before going any further...

Your friend...

Jack :)

Thank you for sharing that with us Jack.

Perhaps you can share with us how you know this personal insider information as to Bill Wood's motives (" he wanted to lay it all out in there in the public forum").

It appears to me that you are just making up wild assumptions and trying to present them as facts. Your guesses do not qualify as facts.

[modwiz]

I thought it was an uplifting video because of the conclusion of it. As long as awareness keeps on expanding throughout the populaces this all has a positive ending. That said, I am bailing out of this thread, for reasons I will keep to my self.

One either gets this video one way or another. Debate here is largely fruitless and only feeds a negative vibe, IMO.

[norman]

Debate is largely fruitless and only feeds a negative vibe, IMO.



That's got to be the most universally profound and true thing you've ever said Modwiz, thanks. I can think on that very point and pat myself on the back for having such a good clued friend in cyberspace.

Not sure if that's really the right thing to say though.

[aranuk]

Everyone knows where I stand with the authenticity of this video, as in my previous post here in this thread. Can I say something here to clear some confusion on the subject here of why Bill Wood started the video with the statement that it was fictional. It is very clear in my mind that he started of by saying that the freedom of the American people at the moment is being treacherously being destroyed and that there are persons in government especially the whitehouse who are going against their oaths they swore to on the holy book. If he was talking to the main stream media they most probably would not have had a clue what he was REALLY saying here . But surely we Avalonians don't need him to say it out loud we friggin know what he means and if you don't you tricked Avalon on getting your membership here. He also alluded to the white hats and he calls them oathers. He is covering his asss by making it sound as if it is a fiction book he is writing. This smart ass stuff about paradoxes is BS. He was trying to protect his loved ones for Christ sakes. He never mentioned his FICTITIOUS book again after that. If I am ficticiously writing a book this means I am NOT writing a book. I am telling a lie about writing a book so I can tell you freely the truth as I have experienced it without getting into trouble telling you the truth. Gary Arse**** please find another thread so you can annoy people there mate.

Stan

[modwiz]

Debate is largely fruitless and only feeds a negative vibe, IMO.




That's got to be the most universally profound and true thing you've ever said Modwiz, thanks. I can think on that very point and pat myself on the back for having such a good clued friend in cyberspace.

Not sure if that's really the right thing to say though.


To be specific, which is what I meant to be. I was referring to the unfolding of the debate in the thread here. Hope that helps.

[modwiz]

Everyone knows where I stand with the authenticity of this video, as in my previous post here in this thread. Can I say something here to clear some confusion on the subject here of why Bill Wood started the video with the statement that it was fictional. It is very clear in my mind that he started of by saying that the freedom of the American people at the moment is being treacherously being destroyed and that there are persons in government especially the whitehouse who are going against their oaths they swore to on the holy book. If he was talking to the main stream media they most probably would not have had a clue what he was REALLY saying here . But surely we Avalonians don't need him to say it out loud we friggin know what he means and if you don't you tricked Avalon on getting your membership here. He also alluded to the white hats and he calls them oathers. He is covering his asss by making it sound as if it is a fiction book he is writing. This smart ass stuff about paradoxes is BS. He was trying to protect his loved ones for Christ sakes. He never mentioned his FICTITIOUS book again after that. If I am ficticiously writing a book this means I am NOT writing a book. I am telling a lie about writing a book so I can tell you freely the truth as I have experienced it without getting into trouble telling you the truth. Gary Arse**** please find another thread so you can annoy people there mate.

Stan

Agreed. He apparently has a job to do. We have an ignore list here. Put him on it. I am going to do it. It will improve the content here on PA.

[Vitalux]

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Stages of Truth


All truth passes through three stages.

First, it is ridiculed.
Second, it is violently opposed.
Third, it is accepted as being self-evident.


Arthur Schopenhauer
German philosopher (1788 - 1860)



Everyone knows where I stand with the authenticity of this video, as in my previous post here in this thread. Can I say something here to clear some confusion on the subject here of why Bill Wood started the video with the statement that it was fictional. It is very clear in my mind that he started of by saying that the freedom of the American people at the moment is being treacherously being destroyed and that there are persons in government especially the whitehouse who are going against their oaths they swore to on the holy book. If he was talking to the main stream media they most probably would not have had a clue what he was REALLY saying here . But surely we Avalonians don't need him to say it out loud we friggin know what he means and if you don't you tricked Avalon on getting your membership here. He also alluded to the white hats and he calls them oathers. He is covering his asss by making it sound as if it is a fiction book he is writing. This smart ass stuff about paradoxes is BS. He was trying to protect his loved ones for Christ sakes. He never mentioned his FICTITIOUS book again after that. If I am ficticiously writing a book this means I am NOT writing a book. I am telling a lie about writing a book so I can tell you freely the truth as I have experienced it without getting into trouble telling you the truth. Gary Arse**** please find another thread so you can annoy people there mate.

Stan

Agreed. He apparently has a job to do. We have an ignore list here. Put him on it. I am going to do it. It will improve the content hear on PA.


http://i1023.photobucket.com/albums/af356/stuarburstphotography/3png.jpg

[jaybee]

Debate here is largely fruitless and only feeds a negative vibe, IMO.


Agreed. He apparently has a job to do. We have an ignore list here. Put him on it. I am going to do it. It will improve the content hear on PA.


didn't you just feed a negative vibe there?

:p


:tape:

[sigma6]

I've just listened to the whole interview and I enjoyed it very much. Bill Wood is extremely positive saying the "good-guys have already won" and the world is just playing out the last few chess moves to accomplish this!!

I enjoyed his explanations of timelines 1 ("ascension") and 2 ("a catastrophe that sends people underground") and his opinions on CERN - that it is "not allowed" to be fully activated. I remember what Delores Cannon said about living on the French/Swiss Border - so I'll keep away from this part of the world just in-case!

Got my curiosity Mulder, what exactly did Delores say about Swiss/French border? I have heard there is a prophecy (tied to Nostradamus) saying that there might be a black hole type devastation... ?

[aranuk]

The negative vibes are all too transparent dear for you to pull that one off. Do you think we are all stupid? Troll off.

Stan

[norman]

The negative vibes are all too transparent dear for you to pull that one off. Do you think we are all stupid? Troll off.

Stan

Who the HL are you on about AK

[sigma6]

that Bin Laden died years ago and seal team 9 & 6 both officialy did not exist....So to blow up the 'coptor with the annonymous seal team 6 could not
be proved either way if the crash was faked.....As for the media dramatisation of the assisnation of 'Bill Laden' last may I feel we can all resonate with
that as being a white house stunt.....

and David icke summed it up and i posted this yesterday...

Default Re: D.Icke in Rome.....The London- Rome=Beltane Ritual 2011....Full movie..

... and 'Bill Laden' was 'assasinated' on the 2nd May and although the footage would have been taken ,it could have been added easily....I don't think he believed it was Bin Laden who was killed has he as often said he died years before....So may not of felt the need to mention ???


Steve Pieczenik, the man that Tom Clancy says he based his character Jack Ryan on, who has undisputed credentials in the highest levels of Government (can't remember all the credentials but I remember it was really impressive!) clearly stated on a C2C interview that he was absolutely certain that Bin Laden was taken out back in 2003/4 (approx) so this is very consistent with what 'Bill Wood' is saying... what an amazing interview, so many nuggets, so many references...

[aranuk]

The negative vibes are all too transparent dear for you to pull that one off. Do you think we are all stupid? Troll off.

Stan

Who the HL are you on about AK

I was responding to JB NM OK

[sigma6]

My pleasure, personally I found this interview highly intriguing.. Another details that should be mentioned is that Kerry did not even dare to tell me what this interview was about over skype, I understood that pretty quickly after seeing this. Oh, and the second camera stopped working, hence the reason why we only got one angle in this interview.. Should not matter since info is what is important anyways :)

Oh and this:

To any fools who believe the disclaimer/insurance policy at the beginning of the Bill Wood video ...need to get real and wake up and smell the napalm! He is trying to stay out of jail and alive!!! -- and you can quote me -- Kerry

The above was triggered by a bunch of people watching for 5 min and making a judgement\comment\pissed off e-mail..
Plausible deniability surely is a must for a man in his position, does not take a genius to figure out.. lol

agreed seeingterra, if this is any indication of the movement, things are starting to accelerate, this fellow came across as sincere, intelligent, lots of personal details, what an incredible download of detailed information! I think it is very consistent with and extends on Burisch's information, I can't see anyone trying to get into this topic matter in order to make themselves more 'believable'... also here is a youtube of Wilcock talking about this (2012 engima?) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h0TlCA0BABo&feature=related talking about a "whiteout effect when looking past 2012, and is also consistent with Clif High who explains another anomoly about forcasting past 2012... this is a classic 'rewind and watch again' interview imo... and the thing on the "fiction" ... it was so transparent, don't know how anyone could get that wrong, if anything I hope he actually covered himself properly from a legal point of view... Also if I am not mistaken, apart from the helicopter issue (very strange) but I could have sworn there was a weird interference happening to your cameras, which I have never seen in your video interviews before... (stranger still...)

[lelmaleh]

Thank you! Very validating for what I have felt for quite awhile.

[ROMANWKT]

Sorry all of you guys for trowing the content of course, all is part and parcel to me, but its understood.

regards
roman

[jaybee]

The negative vibes are all too transparent dear for you to pull that one off. Do you think we are all stupid? Troll off.

Stan

Excuse me?

You might not like my thoughts, comments and style...but that doesn't make me a troll.

I totally understand the paranoia about questioning who the genuine members and the fake members are here. Any forum like this is going to have more than than it's fair share of disinformation/misdirection specialists. It goes with the territory.

And in this 'special' year....when the energy is pumping up..we are going to have some intriguing twists and turns.

Don't want to get into a ding dong about this and go too off topic, but I will conclude by refering you to your own signiture..."If you don't follow your spirit without hestitation you end up following your hestitation without spirit."

That's pretty much how I go about things...that and observation of group dynamics .

I try and apply a mix of instinct and critical thinking to my 'research' and 'truth-seeking'

That works for me and I am careful not to be overly influenced by others if I don't feel a resonance.

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[DNA]

I'm taking the guy at his word, he blames the military for using it against him, but he never says it was a bad move or even feels badly about it. So, he gives off the impression he knew and it was legal and therefore ok, or he was duped and it's all her fault. Sounds typical of a sociopath to me, but that's just a gut feeling.

This actually makes his story more believeable to me. It is well known that the CIA likes to use folks in sensitive positions and positions of power that they have something on.(sex offender status)
This is one of those things you learn as you traverse all of this.
For instance the The Conspiracy of Silence Video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sP4NMoJcFd4) shows a child prostitution ring that is used for Washington DC socialites. This goes hand in hand with MKULTRA mind control as discussed by Cathy O'Brien (http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=g4zB1j_AkBg)
You are actually playing right into TPTB's hands by discounting this story out of hand because the guy is not squeaky clean. This is what they want you to do. And you are reacting just like you have been programmed to react to this kind of information.
http://www.rense.com/general79/washingtontimes.gif

If you want to get to the truth Serenity, you are going to have to challange your comfort zone.
Not every whistle blower is going to be a shiny knight in armor with a perfect resume of heroism and shivalry.

[Bill Ryan]

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Hi again, All:

I just wrote this message to a friend, who had written to me asking about "The Yellow Book". I thought it might be of interest to everyone here.






Lovely to hear from you. The Yellow Book (sometimes called "The Yellow Cube", and I believe also sometimes called "The Orion Cube") is a different device from "The Looking Glass".

For information about the Looking Glass, see here:

http://projectcamelot.org/project_looking_glass.html

I'm as sure as I can be that this is all real. Kerry and I talked off-record for 5 hours in December 2007 with Dan Burisch after he had been on a "sabbatical" for 6 months as part of a specialist team investigating possible futures. The result of that project was reported by us (with his permission, several months later) in

http://projectcamelot.org/t1v83.html

That timeline (Timeline 1, Version 83) did not play out. As we can all see! And thankfully, too.

The way the Yellow Book works is different, as I understand, from the Looking Glass. I think the essential difference is that the Yellow Book gives the operator skewed information which is distorted by their own perceptions, intentions and psychology. The Looking Glass, I believe is more "objective".

But the Yellow Book is a more high-tech device, and it is unique: i.e. there is only one of it. Kerry and I understood, from heavy hints given to us by Dan Burisch, that it has been removed off-planet. There were a number of Looking Glasses, and we were told by Dan Burisch that they had all been decommissioned / dismantled. Bill Wood seemed to confirm that.

There is much more to this complex and fascinating story. Happy to answer all questions -- if I can.

Love, Bill

[DNA]

This is the video that led me to believe there was some validity in the "looking glass" project.
S4 (Area 51) Informers Volume 1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=holCY20CtNA&feature=player_embedded)
The whistle blower Connor O'Ryan told a story that matched exactly the story of whistle blower Col Steve Wilson.
These men had no information regarding one another when they told their stories which matched one another perfectly.

And both men stated that the main projects worked on in Area 51 were
1.Project Galileo - Dealt with gravity propulson.
2.Project Sidekick - Dealt with energy beam weopons that had a neutron source focused by a gravity lens.
3.Project looking glass - Dealt with seeing back in time.

[toothpick]

Lots of opinons and discussion, just love it you guys.
imo I felt that what he was sayng rang true for me, just a gut feeling, but you really need to pick up on those intutions especially right now.
I do believe we could use another 1/2 dozen patriots just like him.
Good timing Billy Wood.

[winston smith1971]

If its true or not all of what Bill Wood says, what he says about one false flag bringing in the National Defense Authorization Act with a vengeance is true and scary. Imagine people like Bill and Kerry or any one of us disappearing with out anyone's knowledge to be detained indefinitely, with no legal representation or even family members being informed.
"U.S. Congressman Justin Amash states in a letter to Congress:

The Senate’s [bill] does not even distinguish between American citizens and non-citizens, or between persons caught domestically and abroad. The President’s power, in his discretion, to detain persons he determines have supported associated forces applies just as strongly to Americans seized on U.S. soil as it does to foreigners captured on a far away battlefield.

Colonel Lawrence Wilkerson – General Colin Powell’s chief of staff – says that the bill is a big step towards tyranny at home. Congressman Ron Paul says that it will establish martial law in America.
Indeed, Amash accuses lawmakers of attempting to intentionally mislead the American people by writing a bill which appears at first glance to exclude U.S. citizens, when it actually includes us:

Pres. Obama and many Members of Congress believe the President ALREADY has the authority the bill grants him. Legally, of course, he does not. This language was inserted to keep proponents and opponents of the bill appeased, while permitting the President to assert that the improper power he has claimed all along is now in statute.

***

They will say that American citizens are specifically exempted under the following language in Sec. 1032: “The requirement to detain a person in military custody under this section does not extend to citizens of the United States.” Don’t be fooled. All this says is that the President is not REQUIRED to indefinitely detain American citizens without charge or trial. It still PERMITS him to do so."

[Lazlo]

I got a genuine vibe from him and respect him for coming forward. Perhaps it's worth reflecting on what these people often go through and risk by putting their necks on the line to talk about these topics, before judging so quick and harshly.

Constructive skepticism is fine, but many posts on here really seem to have a venom to them and a guilty until proven innocent style; If I'm ever in court I hope they're not on the jury. ;)

Despite what people's opinions are, I think he clearly started she was 16 at the time, which was also technically legal at the time too - regardless of what each person's personal opinion is; perhaps those so quick to judge have no skeletons in their closets - so-to-speak - and are perfect? The guy has guts for putting it all out there, warts and all.

Crikey, if I was in his situation and putting my life at risk to get this info out and this was the reception, well, talk about gratitude. :P

If you don't believe him, fine, but at least show some respect in how you express it, as it often reflects more on you than it ever will the person you're judging - especially with some of the venom filled posts I've seen on here.

Now having said that, here's a :hug:

Nerge,

This is an excellent example of, "No good deed ever goes unpunished."

I acknowledge that it took great courage for Bill Wood to first acknowledge his mistakes, and of course, the obligatory "fiction" book announcement, which we now understand the purpose of. It is apparent that he is a very though guy, considering his remarkable survival to date. I do hope that he knows of our appreciation and is exhilarated understanding the accomplishment of his disclosure (I have forwarded to more than one skeptic myself), that it was well worth the negative noise from this thread.

Yet, are we are making it more difficult to compel the next whistle-blower to come forward?

It is my hope that Kerry and our other Camelot friends did not lose heart and courage of their noble purpose by the responses above.

If you are going to get on camera and make extraordinary claims, surely you must expect some intense scrutiny. If no one ever looked critically at such whistleblowers, we would be left with an ever bigger mess of contradictory and unmanageable "information" to sift through in our collective search for the truth.

I agree that Bill Wood, and many other whistleblowers, have shown incredible courage in coming forward. But just because he has shown such courage, it does not mean that he should be given a free pass when it comes to examining both the testimony and the giver of said testimony. I do not believe that he is being dishonest about many of his experiences, nor do I believe that he knows as much as he thinks he does.

This is fresh information, and is generating good discussion, but this is certainly not THE definitive disclosure or witness.

[Nenuphar]

How long has Looking Glass technology been in use on earth? Is the information relayed by it in visual form only, or in auditory form as well? Is there a way of "saving" or documenting the information/visuals it conveys? (Other than doing a video recording of what it's showing)

Newbie questions, admittedly. :o

[Fire Dragon]

I am watching this for the second time now, and there is a something troubling me at the 1:58:00 part. He is claiming that it is possible to travel to Mars "just below the speed of light" , then Kerry asks how long would it take suggesting and hour, but he states within a day.
It takes light 8 minutes to reach the earth from the sun and the distance between the 2 is 150 million km, and i think 12 minutes to reach mars from the sun the distance between mar and the sun being 228 million km.
Now the distance between the earth and mars ranges between 56 million km and 401 million km depending on their positions to each other around the sun.
Therefore if we took the furthest distance of 401 million km between the earth and mars light would take around 22 minutes between to travel this distance, and at half the speed of light would take 44 minutes.

These are just rough calculations i have done, and i am not a scientist, so i am asking here if my thinking is flawed?

[EnergyGardener]

I am watching this for the second time now, and there is a sth troubling me at the 1:58:00 part. He is claiming that it is possible to travel to Mars "just below the speed of light" , then Kerry asks how long would it take suggesting and hour, but he states within a day.
It takes light 8 minutes to reach the earth from the sun and the distance between the 2 is 150 million km, and i think 12 seconds to reach mars from the sun the distance between mar and the sun being 228 million km.
Now the distance between the earth and mars ranges between 56 million km and 401 million km depending on their positions to each other around the sun.
Therefore if we took the furthest distance of 401 million km between the earth and mars light would take around 22 seconds between to travel this distance, and at half the speed of light would take 44 seconds.

These are just rough calculations i have done, and i am not a scientist, so i am asking here if my thinking is flawed?

Perhaps he is taking into consideration the time it takes to drive to the spaceport, park your car, check your bags, go through the start-up sequence, get space clearance, then the same on the other side upon arrival. Just a guess.

[Fire Dragon]

Perhaps he is taking into consideration the time it takes to drive to the spaceport, park your car, check your bags, go through the start-up sequence, get space clearance, then the same on the other side upon arrival. Just a guess.

well i was just having this same train of thought after posting, i see your point thanks

[winston smith1971]

I am watching this for the second time now, and there is a sth troubling me at the 1:58:00 part. He is claiming that it is possible to travel to Mars "just below the speed of light" , then Kerry asks how long would it take suggesting and hour, but he states within a day.
It takes light 8 minutes to reach the earth from the sun and the distance between the 2 is 150 million km, and i think 12 seconds to reach mars from the sun the distance between mar and the sun being 228 million km.
Now the distance between the earth and mars ranges between 56 million km and 401 million km depending on their positions to each other around the sun.
Therefore if we took the furthest distance of 401 million km between the earth and mars light would take around 22 seconds between to travel this distance, and at half the speed of light would take 44 seconds.

These are just rough calculations i have done, and i am not a scientist, so i am asking here if my thinking is flawed?
Wow Fire Dragon had exactly the same thought Ive gone wrong somewhere i thought it would take 22mins at mars' furthest distance.

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I am watching this for the second time now, and there is a sth troubling me at the 1:58:00 part. He is claiming that it is possible to travel to Mars "just below the speed of light" , then Kerry asks how long would it take suggesting and hour, but he states within a day.
It takes light 8 minutes to reach the earth from the sun and the distance between the 2 is 150 million km, and i think 12 seconds to reach mars from the sun the distance between mar and the sun being 228 million km.
Now the distance between the earth and mars ranges between 56 million km and 401 million km depending on their positions to each other around the sun.
Therefore if we took the furthest distance of 401 million km between the earth and mars light would take around 22 seconds between to travel this distance, and at half the speed of light would take 44 seconds.

These are just rough calculations i have done, and i am not a scientist, so i am asking here if my thinking is flawed?

Perhaps he is taking into consideration the time it takes to drive to the spaceport, park your car, check your bags, go through the start-up sequence, get space clearance, then the same on the other side upon arrival. Just a guess.

Yes but still 24hrs he hasn't got a clue how long it would take.

[gooty64]

You should ask Barry Soretero how long in took him when he went to mars back in 1980.



I am watching this for the second time now, and there is a sth troubling me at the 1:58:00 part. He is claiming that it is possible to travel to Mars "just below the speed of light" , then Kerry asks how long would it take suggesting and hour, but he states within a day.
It takes light 8 minutes to reach the earth from the sun and the distance between the 2 is 150 million km, and i think 12 seconds to reach mars from the sun the distance between mar and the sun being 228 million km.
Now the distance between the earth and mars ranges between 56 million km and 401 million km depending on their positions to each other around the sun.
Therefore if we took the furthest distance of 401 million km between the earth and mars light would take around 22 seconds between to travel this distance, and at half the speed of light would take 44 seconds.

These are just rough calculations i have done, and i am not a scientist, so i am asking here if my thinking is flawed?
Wow Fire Dragon had exactly the same thought Ive gone wrong somewhere i thought it would take 22mins at mars' furthest distance.

¤=[Post Update]=¤



I am watching this for the second time now, and there is a sth troubling me at the 1:58:00 part. He is claiming that it is possible to travel to Mars "just below the speed of light" , then Kerry asks how long would it take suggesting and hour, but he states within a day.
It takes light 8 minutes to reach the earth from the sun and the distance between the 2 is 150 million km, and i think 12 seconds to reach mars from the sun the distance between mar and the sun being 228 million km.
Now the distance between the earth and mars ranges between 56 million km and 401 million km depending on their positions to each other around the sun.
Therefore if we took the furthest distance of 401 million km between the earth and mars light would take around 22 seconds between to travel this distance, and at half the speed of light would take 44 seconds.

These are just rough calculations i have done, and i am not a scientist, so i am asking here if my thinking is flawed?

Perhaps he is taking into consideration the time it takes to drive to the spaceport, park your car, check your bags, go through the start-up sequence, get space clearance, then the same on the other side upon arrival. Just a guess.

Yes but still 24hrs he hasn't got a clue how long it would take.

[Fire Dragon]

Wow Fire Dragon had exactly the same thought Ive gone wrong somewhere i thought it would take 22mins at mars' furthest distance.
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yes i noticed your post on the other thread too, same thought same time lol
and yes your right about 22 minutes, it seems i got my minutes and seconds mixed up in my post :P

[sygh]

I've just listened to the whole interview and I enjoyed it very much. Bill Wood is extremely positive saying the "good-guys have already won" and the world is just playing out the last few chess moves to accomplish this!!

I enjoyed his explanations of timelines 1 ("ascension") and 2 ("a catastrophe that sends people underground") and his opinions on CERN - that it is "not allowed" to be fully activated. I remember what Delores Cannon said about living on the French/Swiss Border - so I'll keep away from this part of the world just in-case!

Got my curiosity Mulder, what exactly did Delores say about Swiss/French border? I have heard there is a prophecy (tied to Nostradamus) saying that there might be a black hole type devastation... ?

I made a couple of changes on the post and it ended up posting twice. Go figure. Sorry. Please delete this Moderator, please? Thank you.

[sygh]

[QUOTE=Mulder;405218]I've just listened to the whole interview and I enjoyed it very much. Bill Wood is extremely positive saying the "good-guys have already won" and the world is just playing out the last few chess moves to accomplish this!!

I enjoyed his explanations of timelines 1 ("ascension") and 2 ("a catastrophe that sends people underground") and his opinions on CERN - that it is "not allowed" to be fully activated. I remember what Delores Cannon said about living on the French/Swiss Border - so I'll keep away from this part of the world just in-case!

Got my curiosity Mulder, what exactly did Delores say about Swiss/French border? I have heard there is a prophecy (tied to Nostradamus) saying that there might be a black hole type devastation... ?

Cannon also said she was absolutely certain Sardon meant Saddam. Don't have time to delve into whether or not she was accurate, does anyone else know?

Nostradamus also told everyone to get the heck out of the area around Lake Geneva. Said there would be a betrayal coming from one amongst those meeting there (G8?). Said there woud be signs in the sky prior to the advent. Could be CERN. Whatrever it is, it sounds like an atomic blast of some sort. But temperature is the measurement of the movement (hecticity -my own word) of electrons in anything. Could be HAARP too, because HAARP is an atomic enactor of sorts. Anything that sturs things into a frinzy at the atomic level, be it chemical or frequent makes for the reactive at the atomic level.

As to Wood...
I agree with several here as to not jumping to conclusions based solely on one interview. Best to just stay alert. My awareness is up right now. I feel like we all want to be able to digest what Wood is saying here. Now that he has made public the information he wanted to share, we have the oppportunity to confirm, or, disprove the information he gave us. I get the idea he would appreciate it, as it would be knowledge for him as well.

One way would be to find out if CERN is being held back. I'd also like to know what would happen if CERN were hit by a weapon like the little pleutonium bombs the US has (that makes me sick to say it). In other words, does the existence of CERN as a target put the whole area at the kind of risk Nostrodamus refers to?

At any rate, I think Bill Wood is on the level -at face value. I watched his demeanor. I looked for body clues as to his sincerity. I delved out to try to discern where his energy was coming from. These are things we can tell from watching an interview. I didn't pay attention to Kerry, as I thought Kerry was doing her best to ask the question and then, fold up to listen to the answer. I believe I even saw her put her head down, and fold her hands in front of her several times after asking a question, in order to give Wood the stage.



Nostradamas also said : "The big engine [of time] renews the centuries,"

[jaybee]

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David Wilcock is going to be co-hosting the live Q & A on Tuesday...

From Kerry on the Camelot Forum...


http://camelotforum.com/index.php?option=com_kunena&func=view&catid=37&id=71401&Itemid=164



SPECIAL ANNOUNCEMENT: REGARDING TUESDAY, JANUARY 24th 7pm PST:

LIVESTREAM Q&A WITH BILL WOOD & GUEST CO-HOST DAVID WILCOCK

David will be joining me to co-host this special Q&A. The viewers will be able to type questions into the chat...

FREE.... donations requested but not required.. This event will be dedicated to raising awareness and also gathering signatures for a Petition protesting the NDAA recently signed by Obama...

***

A NOTE TO EVERYONE OUT THERE WHO THINKS BILL WOOD IS HIS REAL NAME....NOT!!!

Just fyi... he's a whistleblower trying to hold on to some remnant of safety... no doubt someone will blow his cover... but maybe not for a while.

[onawah]

Thanks for that, jaybee.
Nice of Kerry to do this on a donation basis.

[Unified Serenity]

I'm taking the guy at his word, he blames the military for using it against him, but he never says it was a bad move or even feels badly about it. So, he gives off the impression he knew and it was legal and therefore ok, or he was duped and it's all her fault. Sounds typical of a sociopath to me, but that's just a gut feeling.

This actually makes his story more believeable to me. It is well known that the CIA likes to use folks in sensitive positions and positions of power that they have something on.(sex offender status)
This is one of those things you learn as you traverse all of this.
For instance the The Conspiracy of Silence Video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sP4NMoJcFd4) shows a child prostitution ring that is used for Washington DC socialites. This goes hand in hand with MKULTRA mind control as discussed by Cathy O'Brien (http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=g4zB1j_AkBg)
You are actually playing right into TPTB's hands by discounting this story out of hand because the guy is not squeaky clean. This is what they want you to do. And you are reacting just like you have been programmed to react to this kind of information.
http://www.rense.com/general79/washingtontimes.gif

If you want to get to the truth Serenity, you are going to have to challange your comfort zone.
Not every whistle blower is going to be a shiny knight in armor with a perfect resume of heroism and shivalry.

A jerk is still a jerk. Spraypaint a turd gold and it's still a turd. I am well aware of these tactics and your comments don't surprise me. The lack of moral ethics and justification by some is what surprises me. I also don't accept the whole "ascension" message so that plays into my end viewpoint on the interview. We may disagree on that issue. To me it's more propaganda all the way around, plain and simple. Yes, by all means let's each have our banner of the day to run off the same cliff and feel self righteous doing so while the elites laugh their collective asses off at us.

Most people are programmed to need a savior, to need something in the form of religion be it standard religion, environmentalism, humanism, and now we see the coming new dawn of dna upgrades, ascension ascension ascension, can't stop what's coming. Repeat it long and loud enough and people buy it hook line and sinker.

I'm glad for the interview, it just seems more distractions and no more truth. Just more mental masturbation and back patting on how smart we all are. I love you all though I know I can be hard at times. One day we will all see clearly and then we can be one. Until then the elites are just playing us from every angle.

Much love,

Serenity

[Unified Serenity]

I am watching this for the second time now, and there is a sth troubling me at the 1:58:00 part. He is claiming that it is possible to travel to Mars "just below the speed of light" , then Kerry asks how long would it take suggesting and hour, but he states within a day.
It takes light 8 minutes to reach the earth from the sun and the distance between the 2 is 150 million km, and i think 12 seconds to reach mars from the sun the distance between mar and the sun being 228 million km.
Now the distance between the earth and mars ranges between 56 million km and 401 million km depending on their positions to each other around the sun.
Therefore if we took the furthest distance of 401 million km between the earth and mars light would take around 22 seconds between to travel this distance, and at half the speed of light would take 44 seconds.

These are just rough calculations i have done, and i am not a scientist, so i am asking here if my thinking is flawed?

Perhaps he is taking into consideration the time it takes to drive to the spaceport, park your car, check your bags, go through the start-up sequence, get space clearance, then the same on the other side upon arrival. Just a guess.

And let's not forget the TSA patdown!

[jaybee]

I am watching this for the second time now, and there is a sth troubling me at the 1:58:00 part. He is claiming that it is possible to travel to Mars "just below the speed of light" , then Kerry asks how long would it take suggesting and hour, but he states within a day.
It takes light 8 minutes to reach the earth from the sun and the distance between the 2 is 150 million km, and i think 12 seconds to reach mars from the sun the distance between mar and the sun being 228 million km.
Now the distance between the earth and mars ranges between 56 million km and 401 million km depending on their positions to each other around the sun.
Therefore if we took the furthest distance of 401 million km between the earth and mars light would take around 22 seconds between to travel this distance, and at half the speed of light would take 44 seconds.

These are just rough calculations i have done, and i am not a scientist, so i am asking here if my thinking is flawed?

Perhaps he is taking into consideration the time it takes to drive to the spaceport, park your car, check your bags, go through the start-up sequence, get space clearance, then the same on the other side upon arrival. Just a guess.

And let's not forget the TSA patdown!


and the instructions for an emergency exit....:eek:

but maybe an emergency exit into space isn't such a good idea...so scrub that :p


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[sygh]

I get your point loud and clear, serenity. Morals are a must.

Unfortunately most of us fall short of the line but we try very hard. Of course, there actually are times where someone wants you to hold up their sense of morality, even going as far as checking to see if you have driven anywhere by touching the engine of your car to see if it's warm before they ask you. Looking in the trash can to see if you are corresponding with someone, opening your mail, listening to your phone calls, etc... this sort of thing almost makes you want to do something wrong. But you aren't talking about that. Sorry, I went off course.

I won't try to change your mind but I noticed no one had mentioned that Bill stated he thought she was 25. Hold on, I'll find the time on the interview, if it's there.


Well, I thought I heard him say, he thought she was older but I was wrong. Kerry, did allude to it, then sort of just said she had no idea and to explain. Sorry.

[modwiz]

Where is respect for the Goddess here. Laws about age is a bunch of cultural crap, and that is why there is so much variance. I am sure she was of child bearing age. That is a huge statement from the Goddess.

What I see here is hysterics. You are either understand the Goddess or you don't. She speaks quite eloquently and unmistakably.

Puberty is Her announcement that a threshold has been passed. I think 16 would ensure that event had occurred. I've had this same argument with Wiccans and Pagans before. Emotional clouding is not to be underestimated. I will not enjoin a further discussion because I only care to debate with intellect, not emotions. Emotions are for feeling, not debating about.

The payoff of this interview is at the end.

Please feel free to fling all the poo you want at this post. I expect tantrums.

[Unified Serenity]

I get your point loud and clear, serenity. Morals are a must.

Unfortunately most of us fall short of the line but we try very hard. Of course, there actually are times where someone wants you to hold up their sense of morality, even going as far as checking to see if you have driven anywhere by touching the engine of your car to see if it's warm before they ask you. Looking in the trash can to see if you are corresponding with someone, opening your mail, listening to your phone calls, etc... this sort of thing almost makes you want to do something wrong. But you aren't talking about that. Sorry, I went off course.

I won't try to change your mind but I noticed no one had mentioned that Bill stated he thought she was 25. Hold on, I'll find the time on the interview, if it's there.

I never heard him say he thought she was 25, just that he was 25. I got the definite impression that he knew she was 16, that it was legal and thus, what was the big hairy deal sort of attitude. I'm letting this all go. He has his life to live. I really did not get much from the interview. We will all know soon enough what's real and what's a show.

Goddess bless,

Serenity

[sygh]

No one is throwing tantrums, Modwiz. Just as long as you know the Goddess can get pregnant, end up alone most often as not, and end up being not so goddess like. I personnally think 16 is an age of consent but shouldn't be the norm. In other words, no one should be tossed in jail for sex at this age. But if the guy was too old, that's a different story.

The end

[TraineeHuman]

Strictly speaking, awareness is something that can’t be manipulated. It’s too much subject rather than object, too much cause and not effect.

So, it’s quite possible that the group soul of humanity, for lack of a better word, is due to make a jump into proper awareness in late December.

Then no amount of strategizing by a ruling elite, no plans of any kind, would be able to manipulate that “group soul”, not ever again. It will have become too much of a doer rather than that which gets done to. Too awake, instead of asleep and passive.

Assuming all that happens, we may not see any immediate tangible signs of anything being different, at first. That’s because of two reasons.

Firstly, such a jump would occur in the sixth dimension, which I guess is the lowest dimension of awareness. It would then need to get “incarnated” into the 3D and 4D worlds of and around the Earth, which could easily be a century-long process. Hopefully, and probably, it would begin to happen in maybe small ways in the 3D world not long after late December. I’m sure many individuals would feel it in their hearts around late December, if it does happen.

Secondly, a change to the consciousness of humanity as a whole may not, necessarily, have tangible physical consequences in our own individual lives, or not immediately, or not that we notice.

[Bill Ryan]

I am watching this for the second time now, and there is a something troubling me at the 1:58:00 part. He is claiming that it is possible to travel to Mars "just below the speed of light" , then Kerry asks how long would it take suggesting and hour, but he states within a day.
It takes light 8 minutes to reach the earth from the sun and the distance between the 2 is 150 million km, and i think 12 minutes to reach mars from the sun the distance between mar and the sun being 228 million km.
Now the distance between the earth and mars ranges between 56 million km and 401 million km depending on their positions to each other around the sun.
Therefore if we took the furthest distance of 401 million km between the earth and mars light would take around 22 minutes between to travel this distance, and at half the speed of light would take 44 minutes.

These are just rough calculations i have done, and i am not a scientist, so i am asking here if my thinking is flawed?

No, not flawed at all. I picked this up myself. Getting to Mars in a day is astonishingly fast, but nowhere near the speed of light. Mars is only 4 light minutes away, so the overall speed of the journey that Bill Wood describes would be quite a bit less than 1% of the speed of light.

The apparent anomaly could be explained if there were good reasons -- which I could imagine -- why when leaving the Earth, and approaching Mars, the craft's speed would have to be considerably slowed down. The very fast sub-light speed might only be for a portion of the journey.

[Gardener]

Has anyone read 'The Golden Compass' the trilogy of books not the film of the first book. Seems to be an analogy of this whole scenario, (yellow book/cube) the compass was affected by the thought of the operator, and what came back from the compass was not always an expected outcome. Much like the 'Ark' purity of intent was paramount, otherwise it would destroy the user, similar the 'ring'.

g
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[Lazlo]

How long has Looking Glass technology been in use on earth? Is the information relayed by it in visual form only, or in auditory form as well? Is there a way of "saving" or documenting the information/visuals it conveys? (Other than doing a video recording of what it's showing)

Newbie questions, admittedly. :o

The only other source for looking glass that I am aware of is Dan Burisch. There are five segments in the Camelot library, plus at least one Rense interview. I do remember that you need two looking glasses to get audio, and that there were more than 50 in existence, but according to DB they have been shut down and the components have been separated. Looking Glass is a variant of stargate technology which is ancient, and information is somehow encoded in Sumerian cylinder seals.

[DNA]

A jerk is still a jerk. Spraypaint a turd gold and it's still a turd. I am well aware of these tactics and your comments don't surprise me. The lack of moral ethics and justification by some is what surprises me. I also don't accept the whole "ascension" message so that plays into my end viewpoint on the interview. We may disagree on that issue. To me it's more propaganda all the way around, plain and simple. Yes, by all means let's each have our banner of the day to run off the same cliff and feel self righteous doing so while the elites laugh their collective asses off at us.

So what I'm getting is that the morality issue is a convienent drum to beat on because the dreaded term ascension was used.:drum:

I don't get the hang up on this. 90% of folks who post here have got to be aware of your anti-ascension stance. Out of the two of us, it is you who have a belief concerning ascension. I am just keeping an open mind about it, you believe it is BS and continue to push your beliefs on the matter.



Most people are programmed to need a savior, to need something in the form of religion be it standard religion, environmentalism, humanism, and now we see the coming new dawn of dna upgrades, ascension ascension ascension, can't stop what's coming. Repeat it long and loud enough and people buy it hook line and sinker.


I don't get this either. I have heard quite a few pro-christian posts you have written. So your lack of tolerance for folks who are entertaining an idea that relates with positive spirituality seems a little judgemental.
I dare say the word ascension can not be used without folks worrying about a UnitedSerenity accusation telling us we are weak minded simpletons being led to the slaughter.:cow:


I'm glad for the interview, it just seems more distractions and no more truth. Just more mental masturbation and back patting on how smart we all are. I love you all though I know I can be hard at times.

I don't see how this is mental masturbation, there are quite a few correlation points here that ping with quite a few independent whistle blower sources. And for someone alledging this is mental masturbation, you sure do enjoy applying friction to these topics.:o I dare say you appear to be enjoying yourself quite a bit while your applying the friction. :rolleyes:
But hey, different strokes for different folks. :p

I dig you the most Serenity, I understand your a strong opinionated woman.
Keep em rollin.
I do like it when we manage to agree 10% of the time, but hey, the best discourse ussually arrises over friendly points of contention. :tea:
Your input is always refreshing, and ussually sparks chatter and conversation.

[Unified Serenity]

Actually DNA, I am not against ascension, I'm just against some actually acting like it's not become the new aspect of part of those in the truth movement who pretend they don't like religion. They sound awfully religious to me in their viewpoints of how that process is going to work via their chosen belief system often via GFL, aliens helping or DNA upgrade and we will all see it eventually sort of posts by those who obviously dislike my take on that particular aspect. Sure, many know my view on this, are you suggesting that I not share it anymore? I see quite a few people who believe in those above mentioned beliefs post over and over about such beliefs and yet no one is telling them they are basically sick and tired of hearing it or we know how you feel about it like you did here:


90% of folks who post here have got to be aware of your anti-ascension stance. Out of the two of us, it is you who have a belief concerning ascension. I am just keeping an open mind about it, you believe it is BS and continue to push your beliefs on the matter.

I've seen an awful lot of anti-christian posts and don't see you or others chide them for their 50th post expressing such a view. So, I point out the pitfalls I see in certain repeated posts expressing such. Double standard going on here it seems.

As for:


I don't get this either. I have heard quite a few pro-christian posts you have written. So your lack of tolerance for folks who are entertaining an idea that relates with positive spirituality seems a little judgemental.

I think Redezra would have a possible disagreement with you on that statement as I have been pretty harsh about the Christian movement as I do not believe in that religion either. It might be splitting hairs to you, but I think there is a very big difference between being a Messianic believer and a Christian. I do not adher to the tenents of that religion as it's the one called Apostle Paul who began that religion and was codified by Constantine in 325 a.d.. I am also a mystic and study very esoteric subjects which many "christians" would definitely not like or consider. I just see patterns and archetypes being reinacted by many who think they are done with religion. Words change but have the same meanings and attitudes seem awfully zealous among many who seem to have a real problem with Christianity and attack it with a broad brush and any who do believe in it. I pick at fine points and don't like all or nothing statements.

I think there are well meaning loving people in every path. Much good comes from them all. I don't think any have the market cornered on truth, but boy some have a real axe to grind and don't mind grinding it here because for whatever reason they hate X path and want it destroyed. I also believe we are being massively manipulated in all the major movements and it's very important to realize it and not become complacent less we do head over a cliff thinking we are ascending when we are anything but ascending. Thinking it and doing it are quite different. I liked what someone said recently about there being a big differnce in reading about awakening and actually being awake.

Yes, it's nice to share a cuppa and find some common ground. I imagine if you and I actually sat down and had a real conversation and got to know each other we'd probably have a much better appreciation for one another than the limited involvement we get on these threads.

Much love,

Serenity

[CdnSirian]

We're all in free fall with this. One day we'll know what is/was true. The community aspect may keep us grounded. While we're free falling - if that makes sense.

[Unified Serenity]

Interestingly, I just came across this video. I think it says it all. Most of you here enjoy the ride. Most of you know what's going on and are happy in the roles and choices made. I won't be a cow or put in anyones NWO box. Stick a label on me if you want. I really don't give a darn about that. The symbolism in this video says it all:

rJE_Sc1Wags

[Carmen]

Wow, what a great interview. I thought Kerry handled it very well.

[Corncrake]

Has anyone read 'The Golden Compass' the trilogy of books not the film of the first book. Seems to be an analogy of this whole scenario, (yellow book/cube) the compass was affected by the thought of the operator, and what came back from the compass was not always an expected outcome. Much like the 'Ark' purity of intent was paramount, otherwise it would destroy the user, similar the 'ring'.

g
:tape2:

Don't want to go off topic too much but this is an amazing feat of imagination by Philip Pullman and is known as His Dark Materials in the UK. Yes I agree with you there are many similarities here - the golden compass was called the alethiometer in the original books. It reminded me a little of the antikythera mechanism from ancient Greece. The science - and parallel universes - in the books is based on quantum physics and many of the ideas resonate with topics covered here at Avalon.

[Ecnal61]

hi there fire Dragon and winston smith in relation to time ,speed ,and distance ,i was coming to the same conclusions as you guys.maybe some of Bill`s info is B S but as i said before. i get a feeling some if not all of this stuff is true. Im hearing a lot of dissenting voices on this subject and some people are close to throwing the baby out with the bathwater in relation to the sexual offence part,i just thought it was smart of him to get that out in the open early on,although to some folks it may or may not taint him it does not in my opinion negate the rest of the info.

[sargeist]

no whistleblower interview will ever feature any info on operational projects. Anyone with any sensitive op-intel is tagged. You dont get to make a phone call or send an email unseen. Skypes coding is a joke.

If you are in a position to do an interview, your compartment is closed.

History is of course very valuable. Those who ignore and so forth.

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10-4 adieu

[Billy]

Interestingly, I just came across this video. I think it says it all. Most of you here enjoy the ride. Most of you know what's going on and are happy in the roles and choices made. I won't be a cow or put in anyones NWO box. Stick a label on me if you want. I really don't give a darn about that. The symbolism in this video says it all:

rJE_Sc1Wags

Serenity I found this and wondered if you would like it as a wee present from me to you, Keep smiling everyone. all in good humour.
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[winston smith1971]

hi there fire Dragon and winston smith in relation to time ,speed ,and distance ,i was coming to the same conclusions as you guys.maybe some of Bill`s info is B S but as i said before. i get a feeling some if not all of this stuff is true. Im hearing a lot of dissenting voices on this subject and some people are close to throwing the baby out with the bathwater in relation to the sexual offence part,i just thought it was smart of him to get that out in the open early on,although to some folks it may or may not taint him it does not in my opinion negate the rest of the info.

Hi Ecnal61 i agree the whole sexual offense part does seem to be dominating the forum and i also agree with Bill Ryan maybe only part of the Mars journey is at sub-light speed, i can believe there may be a space fleet, Ben Rich ex Lockheed Skunk Works said “We already have the means to travel among the stars, but these technologies are locked up in black projects, and it would take an act of God to ever get them out to benefit humanity. Anything you can imagine, we already know how to do.”. When bill Woods said about his petition to get the parties involve with the Indefinite Detention bill tried for treason i applauded him. I also 100% believe he is correct when he states we are one false flag event away from feeling the full force of the bill with innocent people taken away for rendition and torture and possible death. If he speaks the truth or not i feel he will get people thinking and possibly acting in a positive way. That is what i feel we should take from his words and possible he will be proved right with the whole ascension aspect.lets hope so.

[Cidersomerset]

Can't beat a bit of Annie lennox....U/S...

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not up to date with thread flying visit...LOL..Steve..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-5iDKWV6Chg&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TzFnYcIqj6I&feature=relmfu

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RWzRKxhpPA0&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VZqPoriYXho&ob=av2e

great stuff......Have a musical break....

[jaybee]

hi there fire Dragon and winston smith in relation to time ,speed ,and distance ,i was coming to the same conclusions as you guys.maybe some of Bill`s info is B S but as i said before. i get a feeling some if not all of this stuff is true. Im hearing a lot of dissenting voices on this subject and some people are close to throwing the baby out with the bathwater in relation to the sexual offence part,i just thought it was smart of him to get that out in the open early on,although to some folks it may or may not taint him it does not in my opinion negate the rest of the info.

Hi Ecnal61 i agree the whole sexual offense part does seem to be dominating the forum and i also agree with Bill Ryan maybe only part of the Mars journey is at sub-light speed, i can believe there may be a space fleet, Ben Rich ex Lockheed Skunk Works said “We already have the means to travel among the stars, but these technologies are locked up in black projects, and it would take an act of God to ever get them out to benefit humanity. Anything you can imagine, we already know how to do.”. When bill Woods said about his petition to get the parties involve with the Indefinite Detention bill tried for treason i applauded him. I also 100% believe he is correct when he states we are one false flag event away from feeling the full force of the bill with innocent people taken away for rendition and torture and possible death. If he speaks the truth or not i feel he will get people thinking and possibly acting in a positive way. That is what i feel we should take from his words and possible he will be proved right with the whole ascension aspect.lets hope so.


I think this is the perfect way to look at it......cheers, winston smith for this post.

and especially the underlined.

This is a win win situation. And we have a classic piece of alternative theatre to

enjoy as well.


:happy:


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[Ecnal61]

Hello cidersomerset, have we drifted off into Eurythmics wonderland eh!!

[jaybee]

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I feel a song coming on.....:grouphug:


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[Ba-ba-Ra]

Let us not forget that the truth is different at every level. IMO he was telling his truth. Also, IMO, the main reason he came forth was potentially for his own protection. That doesn't make him a lessor man or citizen.

What he said took place in the Middle East, I don't think was news to most of us ~ perhaps the exact details were, but it was good to have some actual facts. Same with his info and thoughts on 911 ~ nothing new except more collaboration with what I already believed.

For me the most important part was what he said at the end. Time lines coming together! Conscious evolution (or however you prefer to describe it, let's not get lost in semantics) as the primary outcome! Very interesting. I must say I have had these same thoughts and intuitive hits about time lines. Perhaps we all need to meditate on these ideas ~ and share what we get ~would definitely be productive.

[1159]

If anyone wants the MP3 of Bill Wood and Kerry, I've uploaded to the link below. It's in mono which should help the separation problem of microphones.

I think this is a very significant interview ...

http://kiwi6.com/file/ue3czy7ox8

[Mightyram]

I must say in all of the years of gathering information and listening and learning where possible,I found this interview to be one of the best I had listened to.
Although it obviously creates even more questions than answers I do believe that it contains a lot of truth and facts and would like to mention that hopefully many of the unanswered questions which have been raised since the interview will hopefully be answered within the question and answer session which I believe will be taking place tomorrow night with Kerry and Bill.
If anyone knows of the time it will be on air, living in the UK then I would be most grateful for that information.

Many thanks in advance.

[onawah]

The last half hour was the best thing I've heard in a long time.

[modwiz]

The last half hour was the best thing I've heard in a long time.

I totally agree.

[Tony]

I'm still analysing this, but it seems to me (from what is said) that collective karma is about to unfold..........and it is down to what was and is being held in our intentions.
So some will be scared witless and some will feel joy.

"Oh what a tangled web we weave when FIRST we practice to deceive!"

We all have a looking glass....it just gets a bit clouded.

[Bill Ryan]

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Hi, All:

If I can secure enough bandwidth here, I may be on Kerry's Livestream event tonight (http://projectcamelotproductions.com/blog-hp.html) (7 pm Pacific time, Tuesday) with David Wilcock and Bill Wood.

If I can swing it, this might be an extremely valuable and interesting show. I'll confirm for certain in due course.

[golden lady]

If anyone knows of the time it will be on air, living in the UK then I would be most grateful for that information.

Many thanks in advance.

7pm pacific time is at 3 am our time. I'll be setting my alarm clock!

[jaybee]

If anyone knows of the time it will be on air, living in the UK then I would be most grateful for that information.

Many thanks in advance.

7pm pacific time is at 3 am our time. I'll be setting my alarm clock!

Thanks golden lady...I might try and have a snooze before 3am...hope I can be awake for it....:)

If not, I'm sure there will be a recording, but it's good to be involved live.

[cellardoor]

Just seen Bills name on the show via twitter. Is that the confirmation? Are you defiantly on it now?

Thanks

Mike

[seehas]

at white time will the liveshow be in europe? CET? is it 4:00 in the morning?

[gripreaper]

I've been restraining myself from comment until after tonight's Q and A session, although I have read this entire thread and wanted to many times. Exciting to have Bill joining in as well.

[Sesan]

This should be a great live show and I can't wait!!

:tinfoil3:

[ROMANWKT]

thank you
roman

[Alie]

Just seen Bills name on the show via twitter. Is that the confirmation? Are you defiantly on it now?

Thanks

Mike

Having Kerry, David W. AND Bill Ryan with Bill Wood tonight is probably going to be THE INTERVIEW from which "much" will go forth. Let's all watch!!!!

[Bill Ryan]

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Hi, All --

Yes, I'll be part of the show. I've just now this minute (7.01 pm Pacific Time) got my internet connected.

:)

[Unified Serenity]

So, we are going to ascend in a year, that's wonderful. I do believe we can see this plan definitely in the works politically.

O6KnqLEsXmE

From a Russian who lived it! It's time to wake up. It's time to look around. Think it can't happen here? Keep us busy with promises and talk of Utopia. Look at the truth of recent history. This is a great video.

[araucaria]

So, we are going to ascend in a year, that's wonderful. I do believe we can see this plan definitely in the works politically.

O6KnqLEsXmE

From a Russian who lived it! It's time to wake up. It's time to look around. Think it can't happen here? Keep us busy with promises and talk of Utopia. Look at the truth of recent history. This is a great video.

Let me try a slight variation on the old formula: those who set too much store by history are condemned to repeat it.

I would not take Stalin's Russia as a yardstick. There is no other? Well then, who needs a yardstick?

I think yardsticks are going out of fashion