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Alie
25th January 2012, 02:31
At 10 pm EST tonight, the 2nd interview with Bill Wood. On Kerry's Blog, it says Bill Ryan is joining in. http://livestream.com/projectcamelotlive/

jackovesk
25th January 2012, 03:00
Has it started yet..?

Paul
25th January 2012, 03:02
Has it started yet..?

Not yet - any minute now.

Wind
25th January 2012, 03:03
It's live. Just started watching!

ExHaLaTiON
25th January 2012, 03:13
yes, it is starting to roll now.

bennycog
25th January 2012, 03:14
never been so disgusted in the comments going on in the chat as the interview is taking place..
needs to be turned off..

TargeT
25th January 2012, 03:17
never been so disgusted in the comments going on in the chat as the interview is taking place..
needs to be turned off..

take a good look, this is what we are working with (not all, but part)... it is good to be reminded from time to time.

moontime
25th January 2012, 03:19
Not saying I do or don't believe BW, especially since i'm new to this story and don't know all the details. I tend to believe someone until they give me a reason not to though. But, you can usually tell by a persons voice, posture, and mannerisms that they have been/are military. However, specialist such as seals and other elite highly specialized groups are trained not to sound or look military so that they may blend in. Their lives depend on it.

nimmer
25th January 2012, 03:21
never been so disgusted in the comments going on in the chat as the interview is taking place..
needs to be turned off..

Yeah, reminds me of YouTube comments.

bennycog
25th January 2012, 03:28
never been so disgusted in the comments going on in the chat as the interview is taking place..
needs to be turned off..

Yeah, reminds me of YouTube comments.

yeah i know why do they watch such things if they are going to put so much hatred and pure disrespect to it in the end. instead of using their awakened or awakening minds to discuss their thoughts..
i mean they must be thinking something outside the box, to even just sit there and listen..

Sesan
25th January 2012, 03:58
Turned off the chat. Much better now. Very interesting so far. David is on his game tonight!

Wind
25th January 2012, 04:10
This is really interesting! I wish I had some popcorns. :)

perolator
25th January 2012, 04:19
Great interview.

Carmody
25th January 2012, 04:30
DEC 2012, past that point a traveler in the chair enters a state of bliss that is subjective.

Polarity shift, timeline shift, reality shift, same same.

Simple crossing of the center point (David is speaking of 'the bump' right now) same polarity or shift of 'going into the light'.

Same in the art of astral projection. same as the aether polarity shift as the planet moves into the center band of the galaxy and we enter a 'polarity shift'.

Jonathon
25th January 2012, 04:31
BW's memory gets awful shaky at times - especially under the gun. 5-7 seconds to remember the height of something that would be burned in any other person's mind? Lacking in the real world detail i would expect. Dodgy - tends to drop out of detail and into philosophy. Drinking from super-sized McDonalds cup (it appears). Otherwise, good looking, charismatic, but not enough to outweigh the other.

Ack! Had to turn it off 2-3 questions in from Bill Ryan. Just not jiving with me.

jcocks
25th January 2012, 04:49
I can't wait to hear Billl Ryans' take on all this after the livestream ends :)

JohnBlues
25th January 2012, 04:54
Haven't watched the first interview, and had no idea this was planned, woke up and jumped on at pretty much 7PM PST.

BW has a very confusing way of trying to explain things, atleast for me.

Limor Wolf
25th January 2012, 05:12
A great question from (our) Bill, wether Bill Wood knows what the near future months hold and a slight evasion from him answering it,saying that even if he would know the answer,he would not have shared it as to not impact people's free will. How does that settle with his notion that all timelines are being led to the same one consequence?!

jcocks
25th January 2012, 05:15
And...... BOOM! hehehe...can't wait :)

NternalArchitect
25th January 2012, 05:28
I asked this question =)))

QUESTION: DOES DEC 21 2012 HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH THE GALACTIC SUPERWAVE SPOKE OF BY DR. PAUL LAVIOLETTE AND PANE ANDOVE?? WHAT ELSE COULD CREATE A MERGING OF TIMELINES LIKE THAT?

And both david and bill confirmed WAHOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

ViralSpiral
25th January 2012, 05:37
Occupy Area 51 ;)


I missed most of the interview. Hope there will be a link made available to the full interview

Tommy
25th January 2012, 05:40
This event is being recorded, we will put it on youtube and keep it on our Livestream channe (http://www.livestream.com/projectcamelotlive)l for later viewing and review :)

Wind
25th January 2012, 06:09
I have seen some Project Camelot live interviews and I have to say that this one was one of the best and most important ones. And that is not an overstatement! Bill Wood has seen alot of bad things, but I think he has a heart of gold.

Bill, Kerry and David make a great team. :)

aranuk
25th January 2012, 06:10
Absolutely excellent.

Stan

TargeT
25th January 2012, 06:10
Summary:

"we know **** you don't, but we won't tell you; however I spent 20 years condensing knowledge into a book you should buy, but for now, we know ****, and its really cool, so just sit there and don't do anything, just be open to what comes"....

more inaction message, I don't Like this at all.

the rest was fascinating however.. nice random find.. the personalitlies interacting wwas fun to watch/listen to

it'd be really nice to sit here and wait for people who "love us a lot" to come save us, but that seems to be the same format most traps come in, externalize your power & hope somone will do what you want them to..

but hey, being open to what comes isn't bad advice over all :)

apokalypse
25th January 2012, 06:11
Occupy Area 51!!!

Carmen
25th January 2012, 06:11
Yay!! Can't wait to hear it. Thanks to Kerry, Bill and David for this interview. I loved the first one!

Sesan
25th January 2012, 06:13
I have seen some Project Camelot live interviews and I have to say that this one was one of the best and most important ones. And that is not an overstatement! Bill Wood has seen alot of bad things, but I think he has a heart of gold.

Bill, Kerry and David make a great team. :)

I agree totally StarSeed. That was an excellent interview and full of great information. Thanks to everyone and Kerry, a huge THANKS!!!

NewFounderHome
25th January 2012, 06:14
This was a very good interview. Still a lot of secrecy, looking to see this go away!

Peace and love to all.

jcocks
25th January 2012, 06:14
That's not what they said. But anyway...

In the end the magnitude of the changes are such that there's little we can do individually to change the outcome, but if we each do our little bit to enighten those around us it has a knock-on effect that, in the end, *WILL* bring about the positive change that they are talking about. It has, it will... It's not just what you do tomorrow, what you do now, but what you have done last year, and ten years ago...the effect is cumulative and it all converges on the events that are to come...

jackovesk
25th January 2012, 06:16
never been so disgusted in the comments going on in the chat as the interview is taking place..
needs to be turned off..

Yeah, reminds me of YouTube comments.

yeah i know why do they watch such things if they are going to put so much hatred and pure disrespect to it in the end. instead of using their awakened or awakening minds to discuss their thoughts..
i mean they must be thinking something outside the box, to even just sit there and listen..

Don't forget that some of them would have been 'Paid For' PTW (TROLLS)..!

Limor Wolf
25th January 2012, 06:17
The NDDA 1031citizen imprisonment petition: (we've been asked to sign it and make our voice heard by Kerry)

"The President will promptly sign NDAA Section 1031 into law, codifying who is eligible for "Detention under the law of war without trial." Without a trial, there is no chance to tell a judge that the government has no evidence. The worst thing about this law is that it originally exempted U.S. citizens, but now it dangerously does not specify either way (i.e. is "statutorily agnostic") -- because the Obama administration asked to REMOVE the exemption for citizens. See the C-SPAN video clip showing this fact"

http://www.change.org/petitions/out-with-congress-ndaa-1031-citizen-imprisonment-agnostic-law-is-now-here#

Strat
25th January 2012, 06:20
Great video, thanks to everyone involved for doing it. This was very informative.

It also piqued my interest into the looking glass, I'm really going to research this as much as possible. So much info has been given I feel like I could build one myself!

gripreaper
25th January 2012, 06:22
Just finished the Q and A livestream with Bill Wood, David Wilcock, Kerry Cassidy and Bill Ryan. There were close to 3000 people and it went off real well, although the chat moved way to fast to read mostly. The main takeaway that I got from this:

"The timeline is relatively assured to the ultimate collective dream of bliss and the last few moves on the chessboard cannot be stopped by the elite and they are done and they know it. The only question which remains for them, is do they want to exit quietly or through the night of a thousand swords.The only question for us, is do we want to go kicking and screaming or do we want to gracefully embrace it.

The thousands of year reign of tyranny is over.

jcocks
25th January 2012, 06:26
Great video, thanks to everyone involved for doing it. This was very informative.

It also piqued my interest into the looking glass, I'm really going to research this as much as possible. So much info has been given I feel like I could build one myself!

VERY interesting stuff....but largely irrelevant now. All the chess moves are mapped out, it's going to end in check mate for the PTB.....

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Just finished the Q and A livestream with Bill Wood, David Wilcock, Kerry Cassidy and Bill Ryan. There were close to 3000 people and it went off real well, although the chat moved way to fast to read mostly. The main takeaway that I got from this:

"The timeline is relatively assured to the ultimate collective dream of bliss and the last few moves on the chessboard cannot be stopped by the elite and they are done and they know it. The only question which remains for them, is do they want to exit quietly or through the night of a thousand swords.

The thousands of year reign of tyranny is over.

I would say relative bliss, not absolute... There's stilll lessons to be learned, but they're going to be a whole lot easier....

Without lessons to learn, the reason for us to be here is negated....

Tommy
25th January 2012, 06:26
This link should work to view the interview:
http://www.livestream.com/projectcamelotlive/video?clipId=pla_8de3e653-fe5b-4016-8ea4-c34a3bc066ee&utm_source=lslibrary&utm_medium=ui-thumb

It will be on youtube tomorrow :) Need some sleep first though!

Hope you all enjoyed the event!

hettleman
25th January 2012, 06:28
Loved it! Thank you Kerry, Bill, Bill and David! I can't tell you how many bells went off, ah-ha moments and memory jolts I experienced during this live session. You have renewed my "faith in knowing"!!!
Much Love,
Kerry

Bill Ryan
25th January 2012, 06:29
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Hi, Folks:

Link to the raw audio is available for download here:

http://projectavalon.net/Bill_Wood_Livestream_Kerry_Cassidy_Bill_Ryan_David _WIlcock_24_Jan_2012.mp3

Much to say. But it's 1.30 am here, and I have to sleep.I'll post again tomorrow.

Of interest: a minor miracle enabled me to take part. The internet was completely disabled here all afternoon and evening, and it was only reconnected 5 minutes before the start of the event by an Ecuadorian internet technician climbing heroically to the very top of an extremely tall tree in the pitch dark and driving rain to successfully reposition the dish antenna. Sometime tomorrow I need to find a way to let him know what a contribution he made.

Goodnight, All -- :)

CeltMan
25th January 2012, 06:29
Very late here in UK, 0615 in morning.

Worth staying up for, Bill Wood seemed evasive in his answers. BUT the impression towards end, was that he does not want to 'negatively influence imminent positive events which have been put in motion'

D.W.- seemed to concur with what B.W was saying.


Quotes: B.W...1). "We create our own reality, based upon the collective beliefs."

2) "Something SIGNIFICANT has ALREADY happened."

3) "Re DUMBS, and tunnels etc. Google 'Laser drills',..working at nominal 7 miles per day, X 365 = 2,555 miles per year!"

4) "It is over for the 'Elite'. They should give up honourably."

5) Final statement: "Do One Random act of KINDNESS today."

So in summary, a Very Positive outlook for humankind & Planet Earth.

Thanks to Kerry, etc for organising this event, and to the participants: Bill Wood, David Wilcock, Bill Ryan.

I'm off to bed now.

The above is a summary of points which I noted down during the event.

I am sure others will have points to make which I might have missed.

Sesan
25th January 2012, 06:30
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Hi, Folks:

Link to the raw audio is available for download here:

http://projectavalon.net/Bill_Wood_Livestream_Kerry_Cassidy_Bill_Ryan_David _WIlcock_24_Jan_2012.mp3

Much to say. But it's 1.30 am here, and I have to sleep.I'll post again tomorrow.

Of interest: a minor miracle enabled me to take part. The internet was completely disabled here all afternoon and evening, and it was only reconnected 5 minutes before the start of the event by an Ecuadorian internet technician climbing heroically to the very top of an extremely tall tree in the pitch dark and driving rain to successfully reposition the dish antenna. Sometime tomorrow I need to find a way to let him know what a contribution he made.

Goodnight, All -- :)

Thanks for being a part of this Bill. Just excellent!
Sesan

jackovesk
25th January 2012, 06:32
A great question from (our) Bill, wether Bill Wood knows what the near future months hold and a slight evasion from him answering it,saying that even if he would know the answer,he would not have shared it as to not impact people's free will. How does that settle with his notion that all timelines are being led to the same one consequence?!

Limor, I understand what you are saying But...

This following Observation is not directed at you personally, it is just a Quick Wake Up call to all of US...

Its 'High Time' we all started to look (WITHIN) for the Answers...

By all means you can be guided by the likes of BW, KC, DW & BR, but please start (EXCERCISING) your own (KNOWING) to find out the Answers to the Questions you already innately know the Answers too...:yes4:

That's the Whole Point, if we are to reach our (Own Human Potential)..! That is the real (SECRET) that the OWO/PTW don't want us to Act On let alone Manifest..!

Rgs,

Jack :)

onawah
25th January 2012, 06:39
That's a good Vilcabamba story, about the tech climbing the tree in the dark to enable Bill to be online.
Thanks for lending your grounding presence to the proceedings, Bill.

I also found Bill Wood and also DW to be evasive, when news was what I was hoping for.
They both seemed to be redirecting us more toward looking within, having hope and thinking positively rather than relying on news (such as about the ETs helping us and so on).
That sounds right, but it's not so easy in practice.
I wanted my news fix! :mmph: :hungry:

Though much of what they talked about was certainly interesting, some of it wasn't really news.
:whistle:
I would still like to hear what more DW knows about the ETs/EDs taking an active role in disabling DUMBs and derailing the Illuminati agenda.
Of all the things that can happen in the real world, I think that would give me hope for things going well this year and leading us to the desirable timeline.

This year is going to be so critical.
Until we get more of an idea of what momentous, secret :secret: :gossip: events they were referring to that will change everything, we still just have to take their word for it. :juggle: :unsure:
Though of course, DW left us with the usual teaser, to stay tuned to his website for further developments...:wink: :ohwell:
But it's still a lot better than being left completely in the dark.

What a year this is going to be!

jcocks
25th January 2012, 06:40
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Hi, Folks:

Link to the raw audio is available for download here:

http://projectavalon.net/Bill_Wood_Livestream_Kerry_Cassidy_Bill_Ryan_David _WIlcock_24_Jan_2012.mp3

Much to say. But it's 1.30 am here, and I have to sleep.I'll post again tomorrow.

Of interest: a minor miracle enabled me to take part. The internet was completely disabled here all afternoon and evening, and it was only reconnected 5 minutes before the start of the event by an Ecuadorian internet technician climbing heroically to the very top of an extremely tall tree in the pitch dark and driving rain to successfully reposition the dish antenna. Sometime tomorrow I need to find a way to let him know what a contribution he made.

Goodnight, All -- :)

That's a "sign" if ever I've seen one!

So, do you still have the same view of what is likey to happen this year in light of what was said during the event? Personally it's confirmed a lot of what my intuition has been telling me about this year - which is great :)

jp11
25th January 2012, 06:41
Hello all,

I just completed listening to the entire livestream...and one of the last things Bill Wood had to say was (I'm paraphrasing here) to everyone watching or listening to this, tomorrow morning if you could just do a random act of kindness...it will change the world. :)

I briefly scanned what was written here. You are each entitled to your opinion, but imho if you cast dispersions on 4 people and you haven't even listened to what was said will not create the world that I would want to live in.

Bottom line, we are, each and everyone of us, more powerful than we have given ourselves credit. What we believe and how we behave, what we say and what we think...creates the world we live in.

If you want to come from negativity (fear) and demean or put down another, so be it...but I would ask you to truly take a moment and ask yourself, will that create a world of love, tolerance, compassion, understanding, allowance, and a sense of well-being for you and the ones you love? It is your free will to express yourself in anyway you choose, but know this...there are consequences to every action.

This was a very profound moment in time and it will change our world. Do you want to be a part of that change for the better of all, or do you wish to continue in your smallness, pettiness, sarcasm, attempts at humor at the expense of another?

Just something to think about. And written frankly and without judgment to the highest degree I am able.

ViralSpiral
25th January 2012, 06:45
I wanted my news fix!



As intoxicating as that may be, I support the premise that "knowing" could influence/alter the potential. Not necessarily by any individuals here, but collectively. i.e. no need to push the river, it knows where it flows

I am back to the occupy area 51 meme. Is that not also forcing disclosure? http://kathy.u.yuku.com/profile/bypass/images/wink.gif

onawah
25th January 2012, 07:03
I was just expressing my very human responses to the conversation.
I am actually quite happy with how it went.
It just will take a will (haha--Freudian slip!) awhile to process it all.
I like what Bill Wood said about emptying one's self and just allowing..
(or something to that effect).
Though my first inclination was to want news.
That was very good advice.
And not pushing the river, as well...
But yes, that occupy Area 51 was a bit of a teaser too. :lol:
I think perhaps they were letting us know we can relax and avoid taking things too seriously with those kinds of gentle nudges.
And still sounding like we can definitely count on an eventful year! :horn: :dance:

Chuck
25th January 2012, 07:12
Yes, BW dreamed of a million people descending down to area 51 to demand to see what is there.... a game changing scenario. As he said, "They can't kill a million people". Someone in the chat sidebar brilliantly referred to it as "occupy area 51" then BR verbally echoed it.

Occupy area 51 is brilliant! I'm in... right beside a million of you guys... ahem.

BestLion
25th January 2012, 07:50
Went to the youtube video by PC. I read the comments..WOW 90% of them say that he wasn't even in the military and is full of BS. I myself am mixed on this I spent 11 years in the US Army, and Ive meet many soldiers who 'act-mannerisms etc" like him. So I can not dismiss him as no former military man. But I also am skeptical. So before I spent 2 hours watching this..I wanted to find out who this guy is..due to all the bad complaints.
Well I did a quick google on this guy to see what others in the UFO community thought..to see if he is valid or not. I tend to take the people in UFO-Alternative community more over people who are follows of current wisdom.
Here is a few comments on the forum ATS>They seem to be mixed on this guy>

The first thing the guy says is that the sole purpose of this interview is to promote a not yet released fictional book that he is writing. How am I supposed to believe anything he says after making a statement like that? Much less, invest over 2 hrs. of my time listening to his story that, for all I know, may be total "fiction" from beginning to end?

Just finished watching this video interview and it has blown my mind in a very positive way.
Seems the Illuminati are losing and will lose control of the games outcome - The best of this video for me is towards the end.
Thanks again for posting

Okay just watched the whole thing. What I get from him stating that it is a work of fiction for a book somehow covers his ass from what he divulges. Also the first 2 hrs are related to his military work in Iraq. From 2 hrs til the end it discusses his involment with Looking Glass. The last 1/2 hr is really worth a watch...

Well i watched it all and really enjoyed the whole interview.
I`ve watched nearly every interview by Bill and Kerry.
Some good some bad.
It hasn`t been as good since they split up. I used to like Bill`s technique of interviewing.

It`s a shame this interview is so long ( not for me ) as i think this thread would have had more replies.
Then we`d have had an idea what a lot of people thought about this guys credentials.
I believe 80 or 90 percent in what he says and some of it`s pretty amazing.

This interview is one of the best i`ve watched from Project Camelot.
Thanks for sharing !

But anyway, I watched the whole thing and I believe it when he said it was fiction. There were alot of inconsistancies in his story, things that someone intimately involved with the systems he described would be knowledgeable in. He gave the wrong the type of explosive in the warhead of a tomahawk, there were only 4 battleships in commision during the 80's. On a ship, the Firecontrolmen have seperate jobs, for example; an FC can work the radars and designators for the missiles and guns but usually would not have anything to do with the CIWS, which he stated he did work on. Believe me, when you are a tech on a system, you have plenty of your own work to do much less do another FC's work. If an FC has been in for a long time, it is possible to hold several system classifications, but he doesn't stike me as a lifer. Also, when you are deployed on a warship, the FC's do their own work, Seal's do their thing and they would rarely deal with each other, much less have a seal operating their systems. And the helicopters heard in the video...why on earth would the military spend thousands of dollars on fuel and manhours when they could just send someone to sit close by and monitor what was said? He appears to me as a person who served a few years then got out and is writing a book with his limited knowledge, no harm done but if he is really representing himself as a Seal, and a Seal that served in a super top secret group, then he will be debunked by the real guys in no time as well as charged for unauthorized disclosure. I hope the book is good and he is not serious about his statements. As for me, I retired from the Navy a little over a year ago, I was a Gunnersmate and dealt with FC's all the time.

ViralSpiral
25th January 2012, 07:56
You know what you'll learn after 2 hours BestLion?

Don't depend on anyone else. Trust you intuition. Go within. If you wish to remain sceptical, that too is a choice.

jackovesk
25th January 2012, 08:10
Thanks Bill for participating,

I was wondering whether you could 'Kick Off' a Thread outlining the ground rules for discussion and some pertinent 'Points for Consideration' you took out of the (Bill Wood Interview 2), so we can all participate..?

I took 28 pages of notes and am ready to add my 2 cents worth...

Rgs,

Jack

...Update...

Not to worry - This Thread is fine, I just realised not all had seen the 2nd Interview as yet...

BestLion
25th January 2012, 08:26
You know what you'll learn after 2 hours BestLion?

Don't depend on anyone else. Trust you intuition. Go within. If you wish to remain sceptical, that too is a choice.
Well I like to read what the interview is about before I listen to it. Alot of this stuff isn't really interesting to me..like the Iraq war..etc..its all conspiracy stuff that just doenst do anything for me personally. I am more into cutting bits..like about area 51 or UFOs ect and building a case..this is more interesting to me then that other stuff.
Stuff about 911- Iraq-Afgan war- police state etc..I just more less ignore that stuff. I'm more interested in the supernatural, and thats why I'm on this forum.

christian
25th January 2012, 09:21
A great question from (our) Bill, wether Bill Wood knows what the near future months hold and a slight evasion from him answering it,saying that even if he would know the answer,he would not have shared it as to not impact people's free will. How does that settle with his notion that all timelines are being led to the same one consequence?!

Both can be true. When he says he does not want to "impact people's free will", that's different from saying he does not want to "impact the same one consequence". So if he'd give out the information, people might make other decisions, these decisions have an impact, each moment right now and each decision is still important and has consequences, just not for the apparent fact, that the jig is up in the bigger picture. There are still lessons to be learned and evolution and free will and all the rest of it, it goes on and on.

Tony
25th January 2012, 09:21
He is talking about our collective beliefs.... karma. We can change that.

bennycog
25th January 2012, 09:23
you were very busy jacko.. glad you took notes mate.. i would have been sitting right next to you in class i bet haha

Tane Mahuta
25th January 2012, 09:36
Turned off the chat. Much better now. Very interesting so far. David is on his game tonight!

How does one turn the stinky chat thing off?

TM

Ilie Pandia
25th January 2012, 09:44
A great question from (our) Bill, wether Bill Wood knows what the near future months hold and a slight evasion from him answering it,saying that even if he would know the answer,he would not have shared it as to not impact people's free will. How does that settle with his notion that all timelines are being led to the same one consequence?!

That's a very good observation Limor.

And there are many things in that live stream that do not tie up. If "we have succeeded" anyway why all the secrecy??

A chess master that know s/he has won is not hiding the final moves for fear that the opponent will somehow evade the mate. On the contrary the defeat plan should be made obvious so that the opponent forfeits the game and saves everybody some time.

I appreciate the overall positive and empowering message, but I am a bit tired of predictions and secrets and significant events that nobody talks about a few days later, when other new significant events will happen in the very near future.

It's also interesting to notice that Bill Wood insisted quite a lot on the fact that he did not use the "Looking Glass" and he only looked at other people conclusions (so second-hand data and interpretations).

Hopefully we will find out more "in the near future" :)

jackovesk
25th January 2012, 09:58
A great question from (our) Bill, wether Bill Wood knows what the near future months hold and a slight evasion from him answering it,saying that even if he would know the answer,he would not have shared it as to not impact people's free will. How does that settle with his notion that all timelines are being led to the same one consequence?!

That's a very good observation Limor.

And there are many things in that live stream that do not tie up. If "we have succeeded" anyway why all the secrecy??

A chess master that know s/he has won is not hiding the final moves for fear the the opponent will somehow evade the mate. On the contrary the defeat plan should be made obvious so that the opponent forfeits the game and save everybody some time.

I appreciate the overall positive and empowering message, but I am a bit tired of predictions and secrets and momentous events that nobody talks about a few days later, when other new momentous events will happen in the very near future.

It's also interesting to notice that Bill Wood insisted quite a lot on the fact that he did not use the "Looking Glass" and he only looked at other people conclusions (so second-hand data and interpretations).

Hopefully we will find out more "in the near future" :)

Hello Ilie,

Questions: Do we have to be 'Spoonfed Everything'..?

Can't we start using our own Intuiton/Intention to clear the Pathway to (T1)..?

Strategic Endeavours on such a 'Wide Scope' are never Won by handing your Strategy/Moves over to those you wish to defeat...

...am I missing something here..?

In fact, if you were to use such a 'Strategy' are you saying the whole story may be fabricated or a stretch of the Truth..?

Black Panther
25th January 2012, 10:01
uXZistami3c

Sting ~ Love is the Seventh Wave

All the bloodshed, all the anger
All the weapons, all the greed
All the armies, all the missiles
All the symbols of our fear
There is a deeper wave than this
Rising in the world
There is a deeper wave than this
Listen to me girl

viking
25th January 2012, 10:16
Full interview here ...

http://www.livestream.com/projectcamelotlive/video?clipId=pla_8de3e653-fe5b-4016-8ea4-c34a3bc066ee

Many thanks to Kerry, Bill, Bill and David ...

viking

Nerge
25th January 2012, 10:21
A great question from (our) Bill, wether Bill Wood knows what the near future months hold and a slight evasion from him answering it,saying that even if he would know the answer,he would not have shared it as to not impact people's free will. How does that settle with his notion that all timelines are being led to the same one consequence?!

That's a very good observation Limor.

And there are many things in that live stream that do not tie up. If "we have succeeded" anyway why all the secrecy??

A chess master that know s/he has won is not hiding the final moves for fear that the opponent will somehow evade the mate. On the contrary the defeat plan should be made obvious so that the opponent forfeits the game and saves everybody some time.

I appreciate the overall positive and empowering message, but I am a bit tired of predictions and secrets and significant events that nobody talks about a few days later, when other new significant events will happen in the very near future.

It's also interesting to notice that Bill Wood insisted quite a lot on the fact that he did not use the "Looking Glass" and he only looked at other people conclusions (so second-hand data and interpretations).

Hopefully we will find out more "in the near future" :)

I've yet to watch the interview but will do so sometime today, but I'd like to respond to what Ilie mentioned here. :)

If the 'end-game' or destination is now inevitable, as reported, then perhaps that doesn't mean the remainder of the journey we each still have to go through isn't still valuable to us in some way; individually and collectively.

Perhaps there are still important personal lessons and experiences to be learned; lessons which may be missed or bypassed if people are influenced too heavily or given a 'heads-up' regarding certain important events.

For example, a car journey to a City: one way or another you'll get to that City, that is for certain, however, you're pre-warned that your car will break down and cause you a lot of hassle in order to get there. So, you decide to go by plane instead, which is fine, but, say you missed out on meeting a very special person or having a very positive experience if you had decided to go via car?

It wouldn't affect you getting to the City but could cause you to miss something special perhaps; a life-lesson, experience or whatever you wish to call it. Just one way of looking at it perhaps? :)

In the end who knows, but if nothing else, I doubt it's going to be a dull year but personally I'm staying positive and doing what little I can. :)

christian
25th January 2012, 10:34
A chess master that know s/he has won is not hiding the final moves for fear that the opponent will somehow evade the mate. On the contrary the defeat plan should be made obvious so that the opponent forfeits the game and saves everybody some time.

The chess game is maybe not a 100% perfect analogy. The chess master's head and mind are comprised of seemingly infinite individual parts of self-awareness. Another (not 100% perfect) analogy would be a crew of rowers being on perfect course towards their desired destination. Now you don't want to make any changes there, for telling them what is in store for them might cause some (maybe even well-intended) movements that throw the vessel off course. Never change a running system, they say.

TelosianEmbrace
25th January 2012, 10:38
On the time travellers moving through the 2012 bump-
....melted in pure bliss.... That sounds pretty good to me. Any takers?:becky:

The Oathkeepers are mentioned a number of times. Here's a statement directed to the Oathkeepers reading this thread. This information is an aperitif. The public domain is ready for more, much more. Bring it.

Paul
25th January 2012, 10:55
And there are many things in that live stream that do not tie up
My guess, from this and other such "revelations", is that someone expects some major events (I'd guess war and economic, political and/or monetary crises) to occur this year (2012), and is laying out several alternative "explanations" so that when individuals start to notice strange or troublesome changes, they will have their choice of ready-made "TV dinners" for their mind which can "explain" what's going on, thereby distracting them from any overly dangerous (to the powers) awareness or action.

They (the powers) are playing with fire however. The backfires (http://science.howstuffworks.com/nature/natural-disasters/fight-fire-with-fire1.htm) they are setting by seeding these various revelations are in opposition to a wildfire of increasing awareness of our human capacities, history and true science, thanks to humanity's recent dramatic increase in intra-civilization communication (Internet, cell phones, ...).

(The above is my personal view, and not that of this forum or, I'd guess, most of its members :).)

jackovesk
25th January 2012, 11:12
On the time travellers moving through the 2012 bump-
....melted in pure bliss.... That sounds pretty good to me. Any takers?:becky:

The Oathkeepers are mentioned a number of times. Here's a statement directed to the Oathkeepers reading this thread. This information is an aperitif. The public domain is ready for more, much more. Bring it.

Yes - I was curious as to Why, they could'nt have had an Oathkeeper representative on to validate BWs Military Credentials..?

Of course I am assuming they are talking about these Oathkeepers, only because BW mentioned them several times in both Interviews, saying he was Vetted extensively by them as to maintain not only his Military background, but his Trustworthiness aswell..?

He virtually said: Being Vetted by Oathkeepers was just as, if not tougher than the Vetting he went through within the Military to obtain his 'Indigo' (Above Top Secret) Clearance...

http://29.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lwm59lg8GV1qcpxrgo1_100.png........http://intheknow7.files.wordpress.com/2010/10/other-keeper-ranger-style-logo1.jpg?w=500

Link...

http://oathkeepers.org/oath/2011/12/08/oath-keepers-alert-federal-agents-demand-customer-lists-from-mormon-food-storage-facility/

christian
25th January 2012, 11:23
My guess, from this and other such "revelations", is that someone expects some major events (I'd guess war and economic, political and/or monetary crises) to occur this year (2012), and is laying out several alternative "explanations" so that when individuals start to notice strange or troublesome changes, they will have their choice of ready-made "TV dinners" for their mind which can "explain" what's going on, thereby distracting them from any overly dangerous (to the powers) awareness or action.

I see your point, of course TPTW did/do their best to use 2012 for their purposes and they always try to spin every event through their media outlets, giving people their "ready-made TV dinners" and of course their preconditioning is playing with fire and very revealing if one reads between the lines. - How do you sees Bill Wood's role in that picture?

jaybee
25th January 2012, 11:48
.


mmmmmmmmmm managed to watch live stream last night... so I'm very tired now and have to go to work in a couple of hours.

I think Bill Wood was WAY out of his depth. He looked and sounded pretty uncomfortable most of the time. If there's a game being played..I think he's playing poker, not chess. I still have reservations of what his motives are for 'coming forward.' (and what could be behind his coming forward....or who?)

Much of what he said was evasive or very basic.

David Wilcock looked extremely tired with dark rings around his eyes. I feel worried for him and hope he can find time to have some proper relaxation.


A strange thing happened for me personally....someone was pretending to be me!!!

The username 'jaybee' was unavailable for the live stream log in, for chat...so I had to use another name. Then when it started 'jaybee' started to participate. I got on their case a bit....and they disappeared. But I was glad I stuck around for the live stream or I would never have known it was going on. Now....I wonder who that was?
And why they did it.


The chat was trolled to high heaven.

.

Limor Wolf
25th January 2012, 11:52
A great question from (our) Bill, wether Bill Wood knows what the near future months hold and a slight evasion from him answering it,saying that even if he would know the answer,he would not have shared it as to not impact people's free will. How does that settle with his notion that all timelines are being led to the same one consequence?!

Limor, I understand what you are saying But...

This following Observation is not directed at you personally, it is just a Quick Wake Up call to all of US...

Its 'High Time' we all started to look (WITHIN) for the Answers...

By all means you can be guided by the likes of BW, KC, DW & BR, but please start (EXCERCISING) your own (KNOWING) to find out the Answers to the Questions you already innately know the Answers too...:yes4:

That's the Whole Point, if we are to reach our (Own Human Potential)..! That is the real (SECRET) that the OWO/PTW don't want us to Act On let alone Manifest..!

Rgs,

Jack :)

Hi there Jack :)

yes,following my own knowing,absolutely. thats KEY. without any contradiction still,listening to tonight events it is also interesting to find out how others pieces of informatio gather together

Limor Wolf
25th January 2012, 11:56
regarding my above incomplete comment of mine.I am having some interference with my computure,and can not even edit my own posts.sorry about that and hello to those who are messing with my computure lately

Rosco1
25th January 2012, 12:08
Just did a reverse recording of the below conversation from Bill wood
(more to follow if your interested, but does take some time to do)

Bill Wood:
Umm basically ahhh what I want to say to everybody out there who's doubting you know my credentials I did in the Military.
All I can say is that I am fine with that umm because I don't have evidence that there is a seal team nine.



The reverse recording is what these words 'Sounds like':

And he points that their in

Shame that voice 'psy ops' (name changed from 'sea ops' to this as pointed out by someone pm me)

Circuit must have that we all feel him

Here I go and nick, say down blow his hydro camera body

Near heights

The spirit light thy over rest

He still is his Mark

toothpick
25th January 2012, 12:21
What a great interview, thanks to all participants.
So pleased to see a 3 hr interview to follow up the first interview with Bill Wood.
Really enjoyed both interviews, thanks again everyone.
Let us hope there are a few more men and women in important positions with this mans bravery and patriotism.

Aquai
25th January 2012, 12:34
is this second interview on youtube or somewheres?

jackovesk
25th January 2012, 12:48
Just did a reverse recording of the below conversation from Bill wood
(more to follow if your interested, but does take some time to do)

Bill Wood:
Umm basically ahhh what I want to say to everybody out there who's doubting you know my credentials I did in the Military.
All I can say is that I am fine with that umm because I don't have evidence that there is a seal team nine.



The reverse recording is what these words 'Sounds like':

And he points that their in

Shame that voice 'sea ops' (sounds like sea ops/see ops)

Circuit must have that we all feel him

Here I go and nick, say down blow his hydro camera body

Near heights

The spirit light thy over rest

He still is his Mark

Thanks Rosco1,

Now where talkin...

The more you have the better IMHO, I've been following David John Oates (Reverse Speech) segment on the Jeff Rense show for a number of years and its uncanny just how accurately both Congruent & Non-Congruent Reversals can be...

I personally would like to hear more (Reversals) Especially when BW & DW are supposedly & adamantly portraying the Truth as they know it...

e.g. When BW is asked for (Specific info) on the Secret Space Program...

I am sure some here don't buy into the technology...Don't worry about that...I've heard enough Reversals to know that it is a useful tool in order to expose any possible deception...

I' like to hear some more if you have time..?

Thanks for your hard work...

Rgs,

Jack

PS - Here are some 'Simple Examples' for any who have'nt heard of this application before...

http://www.reversespeech.com/Simple_Examples.htm

jackovesk
25th January 2012, 13:00
.

A strange thing happened for me personally....someone was pretending to be me!!!

The username 'jaybee' was unavailable for the live stream log in, for chat...so I had to use another name. Then when it started 'jaybee' started to participate. I got on their case a bit....and they disappeared. But I was glad I stuck around for the live stream or I would never have known it was going on. Now....I wonder who that was?
And why they did it.

The chat was trolled to high heaven.


Yes, I was following the chatline aswell and agree with you...

Out of interest - What username did you end up using..?

Rgs,

Jack

Rosco1
25th January 2012, 13:04
Just did a reverse recording of the below conversation from Bill wood
(more to follow if your interested, but does take some time to do)

Bill Wood:
Umm basically ahhh what I want to say to everybody out there who's doubting you know my credentials I did in the Military.
All I can say is that I am fine with that umm because I don't have evidence that there is a seal team nine.



The reverse recording is what these words 'Sounds like':

And he points that their in

Shame that voice 'sea ops' (sounds like sea ops/see ops)

Circuit must have that we all feel him

Here I go and nick, say down blow his hydro camera body

Near heights

The spirit light thy over rest

He still is his Mark

Thanks Rosco1,

Now where talkin...

The more you have the better IMHO, I've been following David John Oates (Reverse Speech) segment on the Jeff Rense show for a number of years and its uncanny just how accurately both Congruent & Non-Congruent Reversals can be...

I personally would like to hear more (Reversals) Especially when BW & DW are supposedly & adamantly portraying the Truth as they know it...

e.g. When BW is asked for (Specific info) on the Secret Space Program...

I am sure some here don't buy into the technology...Don't worry about that...I've heard enough Reversals to know that it is a useful tool in order to expose any possible deception...

I' like to hear some more if you have time..?

Thanks for your hard work...

Rgs,

Jack

PS - Here are some 'Simple Examples' for any who have'nt heard of this application before...

http://www.reversespeech.com/Simple_Examples.htm


Hi Jack,

I am viewing this in wmp so if you want reversals then let me know where on the tape counter it is and I will oblige.
Otherwise it will be like finding a needle in a haystack!

Regards
Rosco

AlternativeInfoJunkie
25th January 2012, 13:06
I typed "spammers are the detroyers of worlds" in the chat and the question "if there are white hats fighting for the people why dn

jackovesk
25th January 2012, 13:07
Just did a reverse recording of the below conversation from Bill wood
(more to follow if your interested, but does take some time to do)

Bill Wood:
Umm basically ahhh what I want to say to everybody out there who's doubting you know my credentials I did in the Military.
All I can say is that I am fine with that umm because I don't have evidence that there is a seal team nine.



The reverse recording is what these words 'Sounds like':

And he points that their in

Shame that voice 'sea ops' (sounds like sea ops/see ops)

Circuit must have that we all feel him

Here I go and nick, say down blow his hydro camera body

Near heights

The spirit light thy over rest

He still is his Mark

Thanks Rosco1,

Now where talkin...

The more you have the better IMHO, I've been following David John Oates (Reverse Speech) segment on the Jeff Rense show for a number of years and its uncanny just how accurately both Congruent & Non-Congruent Reversals can be...

I personally would like to hear more (Reversals) Especially when BW & DW are supposedly & adamantly portraying the Truth as they know it...

e.g. When BW is asked for (Specific info) on the Secret Space Program...

I am sure some here don't buy into the technology...Don't worry about that...I've heard enough Reversals to know that it is a useful tool in order to expose any possible deception...

I' like to hear some more if you have time..?

Thanks for your hard work...

Rgs,

Jack

PS - Here are some 'Simple Examples' for any who have'nt heard of this application before...

http://www.reversespeech.com/Simple_Examples.htm


Hi Jack,

I am viewing this in wmp so if you want reversals then let me know where on the tape counter it is and I will oblige.
Otherwise it will be like finding a needle in a haystack!

Regards
Rosco

Ok, give me 10 mins...:typing:

AlternativeInfoJunkie
25th January 2012, 13:09
I typed " spammers are the destroyers of worlds" in the chat and the question "if there are white hats fighting for the people why don't they show themslves to the people and ask for our help?" But i think both got lost in the tsunami of spam.

gooty64
25th January 2012, 13:47
Hello all,

I just completed listening to the entire livestream...and one of the last things Bill Wood had to say was (I'm paraphrasing here) to everyone watching or listening to this, tomorrow morning if you could just do a random act of kindness...it will change the world. :)

I briefly scanned what was written here. You are each entitled to your opinion, but imho if you cast dispersions on 4 people and you haven't even listened to what was said will not create the world that I would want to live in.

Bottom line, we are, each and everyone of us, more powerful than we have given ourselves credit. What we believe and how we behave, what we say and what we think...creates the world we live in.

If you want to come from negativity (fear) and demean or put down another, so be it...but I would ask you to truly take a moment and ask yourself, will that create a world of love, tolerance, compassion, understanding, allowance, and a sense of well-being for you and the ones you love? It is your free will to express yourself in anyway you choose, but know this...there are consequences to every action.

This was a very profound moment in time and it will change our world. Do you want to be a part of that change for the better of all, or do you wish to continue in your smallness, pettiness, sarcasm, attempts at humor at the expense of another?

Just something to think about. And written frankly and without judgment to the highest degree I am able.

Wisdom, Love, and Knowledge in your words jp11, thank you and have a wonderful day!

Avalonians---listen up! We are only ever going to get sketchy information ahead of time before the big "shift" -whatever that turns out to be. imho

There is one basic action we can all take now. ATTITUDE adjustment for the better.

The one thing in our lives on earth we have control over is our ATTITUDE......

jackovesk
25th January 2012, 13:59
Just did a reverse recording of the below conversation from Bill wood
(more to follow if your interested, but does take some time to do)

Bill Wood:
Umm basically ahhh what I want to say to everybody out there who's doubting you know my credentials I did in the Military.
All I can say is that I am fine with that umm because I don't have evidence that there is a seal team nine.



The reverse recording is what these words 'Sounds like':

And he points that their in

Shame that voice 'sea ops' (sounds like sea ops/see ops)

Circuit must have that we all feel him

Here I go and nick, say down blow his hydro camera body

Near heights

The spirit light thy over rest

He still is his Mark

Thanks Rosco1,

Now where talkin...

The more you have the better IMHO, I've been following David John Oates (Reverse Speech) segment on the Jeff Rense show for a number of years and its uncanny just how accurately both Congruent & Non-Congruent Reversals can be...

I personally would like to hear more (Reversals) Especially when BW & DW are supposedly & adamantly portraying the Truth as they know it...

e.g. When BW is asked for (Specific info) on the Secret Space Program...

I am sure some here don't buy into the technology...Don't worry about that...I've heard enough Reversals to know that it is a useful tool in order to expose any possible deception...

I' like to hear some more if you have time..?

Thanks for your hard work...

Rgs,

Jack

PS - Here are some 'Simple Examples' for any who have'nt heard of this application before...

http://www.reversespeech.com/Simple_Examples.htm


Hi Jack,

I am viewing this in wmp so if you want reversals then let me know where on the tape counter it is and I will oblige.
Otherwise it will be like finding a needle in a haystack!

Regards
Rosco

UPDATE:

Sorry it took so long...

Here we go...

UPDATE: Start of Q & A

David Wilcock @ 31.30 mins

Re: Underground Bases/Strange Sounds/Sorcha Faal

David Wilcock Quote:


"However I want to point out the best dis-info always involes drips of truth in between the lies. So taking that into account I do believe it was a very accurate statement from Sorcha Faal."


"The Sounds that were recorded during the Baseball Game that people heard, that the newscasters commented on (oo some opened the door and let the air out) and the fact that those same sounds were heard in Virginia directly before the earthquake that ocurred in Virginia which we from multiple credible sources that is was an actual Destruction of the Undergroud Base in that area. We have multiple credible reports when we combine Dan Burish and SorchaFaal which I believe in this is telling the truth saying that that is exactly the sound that you get when they ventilate these air passages."

What I'm looking for is any Congruent &/or Non Congruent (Reversals) in his 2 statements, you will see I have highlight the areas of concern...

Rgs,

Jack

Rosco1
25th January 2012, 14:31
UPDATE:

Sorry it took so long...

Here we go...

UPDATE: Start of Q & A

David Wilcock @ 31.30 mins

Re: Underground Bases/Strange Sounds/Sorcha Faal

David Wilcock Quote:


"However I want to point out the best dis-info always involes drips of truth in between the lies. So taking that into account I do believe it was a very accurate statement from Sorcha Faal."

Rgs,

Jack


Hi Jack,

The reverse recording is what these words 'SOUNDS like':

Waal fits the sub

And yet so he had eerie missile with him, evil with yaa

High school in any cases

Regards
Rosco

jackovesk
25th January 2012, 14:38
UPDATE:

Sorry it took so long...

Here we go...

UPDATE: Start of Q & A

David Wilcock @ 31.30 mins

Re: Underground Bases/Strange Sounds/Sorcha Faal

David Wilcock Quote:


"However I want to point out the best dis-info always involes drips of truth in between the lies. So taking that into account I do believe it was a very accurate statement from Sorcha Faal."

Rgs,

Jack


Hi Jack,

The reverse recording is what these words 'SOUNDS like':

Waal fits the sub

And yet so he had eerie missile with him, evil with yaa

High school in any cases

Regards
Rosco

Thanks,

See if you can break this one up a little bit...


"1.the fact that those same sounds were heard in Virginia directly before the earthquake that ocurred in Virginia which we from multiple credible sources that is was an actual Destruction of the Undergroud Base in that area.

2.We have multiple credible reports when we combine Dan Burish and SorchaFaal which I believe in this is telling the truth saying that that is exactly the sound that you get when they ventilate these air passages."

13th Warrior
25th January 2012, 15:10
I'm just listening now...

My first comment is, it seems to me that Bill Wood is saying in a round about way that he may have been involved with 911?

Bill Ryan
25th January 2012, 15:15
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Dear Rosco, All:

Leaning on "reverse speech" (which is simply an audio Rorschach test (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rorschach_test)! ) -- as a means of analysis -- is a very poor substitute for data comparison, hard research, intelligence, and common sense.

Re Sorcha Faal: I don't believe a word of what he (Sorcha Faal = CIA agent David Wood) says... ever. There's no reason to suppose that his claimed report of the sounds in the underground bases is valid simply because it's convenient to believe it.

Re Bill Wood, his report of his seeing one stored Looking Glass device (http://projectcamelot.org/project_looking_glass.html) (with its rings folded) came across as highly credible. He never saw it in operation. Always beware of a whistleblower who claims to know everything. Someone who freely admits that he does not know certain things (or cannot answer certain questions) is an indicator of authenticity for me.

CeltMan
25th January 2012, 15:23
regarding my above incomplete comment of mine.I am having some interference with my computure,and can not even edit my own posts.sorry about that and hello to those who are messing with my computure lately

hi Limor,

I would STRONGLY Advise carrying out a thorough 'malware check' on your computer.

Reason?...When this was running live, here in UK earlier today, my 'antispyware' kicked in.
Although I had just completed a thorough chech before it started, I let it run. (so it was completely clean when this feed started)

In first 2 hours it picked up 60 malwares!!! (Hmmmmm, - strange coincidence??!)

I use 'Superantispyware'. There is a free version, but I use the 'lifetime paid version', at a nominal cost of approx £28

Best of luck with that

EnergyGardener
25th January 2012, 15:28
We do indeed have curious messengers; a sense of humor is required here.

The relevant points made for me:

1. We are limited only by our visions and that knowledge: Human realization of our unlimited power, now.
2. We are realizing an instant "awareness," increasing euphoric generation of light, information and energy from our creator / universe / galaxy, as focused through / from the sun; the 12/21/2012 alignment is significant here.

What I was sitting on the edge of my seat for three hours and did not hear ("in order not to tip the hand to the dark enemy"): That the "well organized" "winner" will very soon be making the final chess moves; Bill's disclosure being one of those moves. Are we now down to 6 moves? It seemed that they were indicating that within the past 2 weeks they had been in communication with the Winner (or their representative/s); that the Winner is one of us, a key player in world politics, now. This was implied by Bill's statement there is and shall not be any "divine intervention." Therefore, the "Winner," according to Bill and David, is human. Did Bill and David spend a night in the Lincoln bedroom? Tokyo? Tehran?

Without seeming unappreciative of their information and what vital information they provided to us (though these points are not new to me and most at PA), it is easy to discount the message by the giddy excitement they conveyed between each other: They seemed like two kids promised the reward of lollipops after church for remaining silent during the service. While this might have seemed odd for most, this was also a positive, trying to appreciate the exciting information they knew, but couldn't tell. But it also meant we were wasting our time beyond that point; wasn't that the purpose of the interview?

We must be very careful here. Much time was spent on looking glass minutia and other immaterial distractions of experiences and technology (to feed the crazed skeptics/cynics addressing Bill's credibility). I impatiently awaited the message to feel its resonance. For future reference, I believe the importance and delivery of the message must be considered for a worldwide audience listening intently for 3 hours.

Thank you Kerry, Bill and Tommy again for your outstanding accomplishments; we realize this significance considering your/our limited resources, time and challenges (that we add to).

The glass is filling beyond half full: Our final chess moves to rid ourselves of the Illuminati now and forever are accelerating as we do increase our human consciousness. Thanks Bill and David for explaining with your example of acting upon realization within a lucid dream; incremental manifestation is easier.

You will know that I have accomplished that (in the conscious state) when you see me flying by at treetop level.

Love to All.

ljwheat
25th January 2012, 15:35
Hello all,

I just completed listening to the entire livestream...and one of the last things Bill Wood had to say was (I'm paraphrasing here) to everyone watching or listening to this, tomorrow morning if you could just do a random act of kindness...it will change the world. :)

I briefly scanned what was written here. You are each entitled to your opinion, but imho if you cast dispersions on 4 people and you haven't even listened to what was said will not create the world that I would want to live in.

Bottom line, we are, each and everyone of us, more powerful than we have given ourselves credit. What we believe and how we behave, what we say and what we think...creates the world we live in.

If you want to come from negativity (fear) and demean or put down another, so be it...but I would ask you to truly take a moment and ask yourself, will that create a world of love, tolerance, compassion, understanding, allowance, and a sense of well-being for you and the ones you love? It is your free will to express yourself in anyway you choose, but know this...there are consequences to every action.

This was a very profound moment in time and it will change our world. Do you want to be a part of that change for the better of all, or do you wish to continue in your smallness, pettiness, sarcasm, attempts at humor at the expense of another?

Just something to think about. And written frankly and without judgment to the highest degree I am able.

Wisdom, Love, and Knowledge in your words jp11, thank you and have a wonderful day!

Avalonians---listen up! We are only ever going to get sketchy information ahead of time before the big "shift" -whatever that turns out to be. imho

There is one basic action we can all take now. ATTITUDE adjustment for the better.

The one thing in our lives on earth we have control over is our ATTITUDE......

UPcwQi-AnWI

We live in a world that stole our minds at very early age. The scales on our eye’s are falling away, the energy of the universe our core is regaining its composure in leaps and bounds. So many references are made to the child and the knowing of.

To be empty is to see, to know nothing is to know all, at the moment of incarnation in the womb, that very moment was all that is, a perfect complete orb of life and light that is all knowledge complete in everyway.

That orb of light is still there, covered up with all the thinking and learning’s of this life time. Dropping all that baggage, becoming empty once again, standing in that orb of perfection.

That original orb of no judge no knowledge, and knowing everything pure consciousness radiating with out end this Orb is coming back to you, it never left you, just covered up by the tree of knowledge, shedding the bark of that tree, or dropping the olive leaf, becoming necked once again to your true nature, life with out end.

The olive leaf we hid our nakedness from our creator, unless you become as this child, you’ll not see the kingdom of heaven. The olive leaf is knowledge ( thinking right or wrong ) dropping the olive leaf ( no thinking right or wrong) Innocence is the absence of (right or wrong)

Dropping the olive leaf brings you back to innocence, pure hole complete in the energy of light for in light there is no (right or wrong) just pure light. Light has no olive leaf to hide its nakedness.

A full glass of knowledge has no room for light. The tree of life = (light) the tree of knowledge 3D elusion = (Vail) is the olive leaf hiding the light you are. Pass it forward the movie shows this simple no thinking child act of light.

Namaste John

Cidersomerset
25th January 2012, 15:46
Great interview i'm 2hrs in and the question of reality and 'us' individual human creators ....creating everything in the universe and our non physical is much
larger than our physical....we have no idea of time or physics.... parrallel worlds , portals , wormholes are all open.....
All this and much, much more is in the Ion material which he has been disclosing for the last two years....

The secret as far as can I see , is as simple as we are all gods !!!!!

No Mr..Big out there somewhere it is in us all !!!! and due to the 'digit meme' we are
becoming aware of this and able to access knowledge already in everyone......

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On the cautious side, its still early and he has deffinateley got David in his 'keep net'
hook,line and sinker......With the recent threat on David and some of his claims of late
it does look like Bill is to good to be true !!!!

But Hey ....Lets stay 'Buzzing' for the momment and see what happens and it has
given me a infusion of ' Disclosure energy '.........

Also I think Ion is back on cashflow live tonight 7.00pm GMT....11am PT...
http://www.achieveradio.com/cash-flow/

Should be fun......

(Oh and the lazer crumbling concrete 9/11 anyone !!)per judy wood...

http://www.thelivingmoon.com/45jack_files/04images/Weapons/trw.jpg

http://www.thelivingmoon.com/47john_lear/02files/Weaponizaton_of_Space.html

Getting carried away now...LOL....Steve

Whiskey_Mystic
25th January 2012, 15:49
On the time travellers moving through the 2012 bump-
....melted in pure bliss.... That sounds pretty good to me. Any takers?:becky:

The Oathkeepers are mentioned a number of times. Here's a statement directed to the Oathkeepers reading this thread. This information is an aperitif. The public domain is ready for more, much more. Bring it.

Yes - I was curious as to Why, they could'nt have had an Oathkeeper representative on to validate BWs Military Credentials..?

Of course I am assuming they are talking about these Oathkeepers, only because BW mentioned them several times in both Interviews, saying he was Vetted extensively by them as to maintain not only his Military background, but his Trustworthiness aswell..?

He virtually said: Being Vetted by Oathkeepers was just as, if not tougher than the Vetting he went through within the Military to obtain his 'Indigo' (Above Top Secret) Clearance...

http://29.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lwm59lg8GV1qcpxrgo1_100.png........http://intheknow7.files.wordpress.com/2010/10/other-keeper-ranger-style-logo1.jpg?w=500

Link...

http://oathkeepers.org/oath/2011/12/08/oath-keepers-alert-federal-agents-demand-customer-lists-from-mormon-food-storage-facility/

Verifying military service is a simple matter. Every American serviceman is given a number on their discharge papers. I don't remember the name of it, but every American vet here knows what I mean. That number is the key to verification.

Edit: the number is called DD Form 214. That's the name of the form every vet is given and which identifies them for all VA benefits.

Whiskey_Mystic
25th January 2012, 15:58
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Re Sorcha Faal: I don't believe a word of what he (Sorcha Faal = CIA agent David Wood) says... ever. There's no reason to suppose that his claimed report of the sounds in the underground bases is valid simply because it's convenient to believe it.

As I said back in February, if you begin listening to a known liar and try to determine when they are lying and when they are telling the truth, you have entered onto their playing field and they have control over you. If you want something from them, such as a story you want to believe, then you are no longer in control.

ROMANWKT
25th January 2012, 16:04
It was starting to get disappointing at the beginning as we were getting nowhere with looking glass, then after that it started to build up to the most fantastic information yet, that we could almost feel the answers that they withheld, disappointing as that was, I do understand the reason why, so as indicated we have to be conscious of our consensus. I am Looking forwards for more, and will listen again just in case I missed or can further extract more understanding that will speak for its self as the most logical conclusion to the omitted disclosure.

So here am I to bore the hell out of you all again with part1 and part 2 of "its all nonsense" as part 1 will help to remove the latent garbage, and part 2 will help you understand what other garbage we have and who is, and how they had done it. REMEMBER GARBAGE INSIDE US AFFECT THE CONSENSUS.

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?15834-Its-all-nonsense-part-1

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?32896-MANIFESTING-IN-THE-MATRIX-its-all-nonsense-part-2


regards to all
roman

I would just like to add, that I did love the answer about the aliens, did you get the implications??

Tony
25th January 2012, 16:08
True knowledge can be used by the pure and impure. Be very careful of thinking yourself as a god. That can turn into one mighty demon.

Love and compassion must be the guiding light.

Whiskey_Mystic
25th January 2012, 16:11
Ok, here is what I want to discuss about this and maybe I should start a new thread. We will see if people want to discuss it.

Bill, I'd like you to respond because I was going to email you privately, but decided to open the topic up to everyone here.

We keep hearing about some sort of consciousness ascension. I hear this from different sources, some of which have nothing to do with internet conspiracy sites and have no awareness of the bigger picture the way we do here. When I hear this, it sounds exciting and some of it makes a lot of sense. But...I just can't get past this....when I look around me at the Walmart zombie shoppers I see a level of consciousness disconnect so deep and pervasive that I just can't see the majority of people being ready to handle this. I think if these people woke up in a new state of higher consciousness, they would be like newly dead people who are very confused, in denial of their being dead, and seeking still to fulfill the fear-based desires of their old-life. Do you know what I mean?

It's hard for me to believe that most of the people walking the earth can magically ascend to a new state of consciousness from where they are now. The shock of being face to face with their own karmic mess and the nature of who they really are would throw them into psychological chaos.

Thoughts?

waves
25th January 2012, 16:12
In the unified field, isn't there really no difference between thinking/knowing something and outright saying it?

In that case, so many people claiming to supposedly intimately understand the workings of the unified field not saying this big secret to supposedly keep from influencing the timeline by is an act of gaming.

This 'big secret' has been a longstanding theme in the new age community.

I think we should discuss what the purpose of this longstanding game could be considering if so much effort has been put into it to seed it from many fronts.

moontime
25th January 2012, 16:15
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Dear Rosco, All:

Leaning on "reverse speech" (which is simply an audio Rorschach test (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rorschach_test)! ) -- as a means of analysis -- is a very poor substitute for data comparison, hard research, intelligence, and common sense.

Re Sorcha Faal: I don't believe a word of what he (Sorcha Faal = CIA agent David Wood) says... ever. There's no reason to suppose that his claimed report of the sounds in the underground bases is valid simply because it's convenient to believe it.

Re Bill Wood, his report of his seeing one stored Looking Glass device (http://projectcamelot.org/project_looking_glass.html) (with its rings folded) came across as highly credible. He never saw it in operation. Always beware of a whistleblower who claims to know everything. Someone who freely admits that he does not know certain things (or cannot answer certain questions) is an indicator of authenticity for me.

Hi Bill,
Much appreciation and respect goes your way. I would just like to point out that sometimes a person may leave themselves an out just so they don't get tangled in their own web. Which may or may not be the case here. I do however trust your instincts. I think that the interview possibly connected some dots. While it may have led to more questions though. I do believe you are helping to steer us in the right direction.

NternalArchitect
25th January 2012, 16:16
So.. Kerry had his papers and verifies, and bill Ryan said he has no problems with it. I don't understand that sticking point. Its clear to me he was in the military..

I didn't feel any deception going on either. Wilcock said he introduced him to people with real 'juice' in this world lol and they confirmed. So, if you give David credibility, he extended it to bill wood.

The most important part, IMO which I will revisit later, was the behavior they both presented when speaking of what they know and sworn not to say. They delved into it more as it went on.. David related the dec 21st date to the law of ones description of how density and vibration will change, I felt/noticed, when mentioning the verified knowledge they have come across. Just by knowing him from hours of videos and interviews, I can tell he has no doubts as to the connection there.

That was the most interesting aspect, and I was wondering about Bill Ryans stance of this? CME, density of worm holes changing and maybe it's possible connection to the galactic superwave. I know in your interview with Kerry and Paul, you two mentioned about insider information of the possibility in 2017, so whether this has made any impact on your views on dec 21.

SEAM
25th January 2012, 16:17
Just watched...My only wish is that Bill could do a full interview.. in that Woods needs someone to fill his mind space with a complete, and properly formed paragraph before he can add specific answers and speak to the point. I'm not overly ecstatic that anything was truly brought forth, and outed. Seemed a bit tedious... and the DW/BW "Men giggling" kind of sqeamed me out... I thought it was a great question by BR, that deserved a more serious response... It came across rather like a "This is our Club, and you're not invited".. (But the name of my book....)

waves
25th January 2012, 16:24
Ok, here is what I want to discuss about this and maybe I should start a new thread. We will see if people want to discuss it.

Bill, I'd like you to respond because I was going to email you privately,but decided to open the topic up to everyone here.

We keep hearing about some sort of consciousness ascension. I hear this from different sources, some of which have nothing to do with internet conspiracy sites and have no awareness of the bigger picture the way we do here. When I hear this, it sounds exciting and some of it makes a lot of sense. But...I just can't past this....when I look around me at the Walmart zombie shoppers I see a level of consciousness disconnect so deep and pervasive that I just can't see the majority of people being ready to handle this. I think if these people woke up in a new state of higher consciousness, they would be like newly dead people who are very confused, in denial of their being dead, and seeking still to fulfill the fear-based desires of their old-life. Do you know what I mean?

It's hard for me to believe that most of the people walking the earth can magically ascend to a new state of consciousness from where they are now. The shock of being face to face with their own karmic mess and the nature of who they really are would throw them into psychological chaos.

Thoughts?


This has also been a huge question for me. A collective, growing awareness of all of humanity currently on Earth ??? What about all the miserably poor billions on the streets in India, China, Africa and 3rd world countries in general? What about the billions still totally immersed in some organized religious belief system and extremely offended and defensive about anything challenging it? The sum total of the community discussing concepts like we are is immeasurably small on this Earth.

SEAM
25th January 2012, 16:24
Not to nit-pick here, but does everyone realize that the supposed, bunker buster explosion in Virginia, which supposedly caused the earthquake in Sept? (I believe).. doesn't account for the more than a dozen or more quakes in the same region since then...

Lazlo
25th January 2012, 16:50
The toughest part for me in the whole interview was the BW/DW mutual admiration. They seem to be feeding off of each other's incomplete information and making 2+2=5.

This interview reinforced my earlier impressions of BW. Basically a decent human being who was in the military and is not being dishonest, but doesn't "know" as much as he is claiming. It felt like DW was leading him to conclusions and answers.

For the love of all that is good David Wilcock...Why can't you just say it instead of promising more great revelations on your website where your book can be purchased. "Tune in to Divine Cosmos tomorrow for the big reveal that I can't say tonight, because the situation will be different in less than 24 hours and I can spill the beans then."

DoubleHelix
25th January 2012, 16:57
I would say there's a chance he's blowing smoke up our asses, and maybe not intentionally either. A rise in consciousness is certainly underway.. but I can't fathom such a significant change instantaneously as Mr. Woods and DW proclaim. Nothing happens overnight. I would say that 2012 may mark the crossing of a threshold; from a slightly negative based reality dominated by evil, corruption and deceit and to a slightly positive based reality in favour of love, compassion and respect. 2012 in my opinion is just another year. Regarding a noticeable change in consciousness en masse, I'm far more interested in the years that follow 2012... like 2013.. 2015.. and so on.

Reading between the lines I pick up a subtle undertone that suggests we're not supposed to do anything and that it's all getting taken care of. For me this is one big Red Flag.

Jean-Luc
25th January 2012, 17:00
Although on the whole positive, as Ilie commented earlier on, me too I tend to be a little tired of these sorts of enigmatic claims, while acknowledging that major moves in our very chaotic world need to be handled with care.
Yet, not really convinced that wishful thinking and meditation will suffice.

Yes everyday more people are realizing what's happening and are fed up with this whole mess.
(including in the very heart of Europe with this seminal book : The nazi roots of The EU-Brussels, published in 2010 http://www.nazi-roots-of-brussels-eu.org/
(and now - Jan 2012 - also available in French)

Will this suffice to avoid the elite to blow it all up in some desperate move ?

Just for the record, here's a quick transcript of Bill Wood's concluding remark.

If I were an elite and find out tomorrow morning about this interview, I would be petrified because I would know that it's over, that the people are figuring out, becoming aware, having hope and there's nothing that can be done anymore because things are happening.

It would be absolutely ideal in this chess game if we didn't have to play the final move to prove that we know we've won. That the good guys have beaten the bad guys. I wish and I pray that the elite, the Bilderbergs, the... you know people that we know and hear about that mostly laugh and say : oh, that's too wild, must be conspiracy. I's not. It's sad. It's true.

And I am very, very hopeful now, with what I know and what I am going to be doing in the next couple of weeks with the help and support that I now have because of the things that I have been doing... There are some real, big, high up, informed people that are acknowledging that things are happening. It's not just me. It's not just David [Wilcock]. And these people know things. They have helped us fill in the blancks that we were starting to put together. And some real cooperation is coming of it.

araucaria
25th January 2012, 17:04
To the extent that the chess analogy holds, then the PTW don’t realize that they have lost, for if they did see the conclusion as inevitable, the decent thing to do is to abandon the game - or maybe they are not doing the decent thing? The endgame becomes fully predictable when every defensive move is compulsory in order to stave off checkmate. When the king needs defending, taking the queen is no longer an option.

This ties in very neatly with the notion of free will as freedom of action. In other words, the people who have deprived others of their free will have lost their own after being outnumbered by still others exercising theirs in unpredictable ways and original gambits.

Lazlo
25th January 2012, 17:05
Ok, here is what I want to discuss about this and maybe I should start a new thread. We will see if people want to discuss it.

Bill, I'd like you to respond because I was going to email you privately, but decided to open the topic up to everyone here.

We keep hearing about some sort of consciousness ascension. I hear this from different sources, some of which have nothing to do with internet conspiracy sites and have no awareness of the bigger picture the way we do here. When I hear this, it sounds exciting and some of it makes a lot of sense. But...I just can't get past this....when I look around me at the Walmart zombie shoppers I see a level of consciousness disconnect so deep and pervasive that I just can't see the majority of people being ready to handle this. I think if these people woke up in a new state of higher consciousness, they would be like newly dead people who are very confused, in denial of their being dead, and seeking still to fulfill the fear-based desires of their old-life. Do you know what I mean?

It's hard for me to believe that most of the people walking the earth can magically ascend to a new state of consciousness from where they are now. The shock of being face to face with their own karmic mess and the nature of who they really are would throw them into psychological chaos.

Thoughts?

I realize that Clif High is persona non grata here at Avalon, but he has been talking for some time about data that describes people standing dumbstruck and drooling, who would require help to even move out of traffic.

This is the visual I get when thinking of the type of consciousness shift being described in this interview. "This is so profound that no one even cares about disclosure, because we are all in touch with the universe, and open to the illusion of reality." There are simply too many people who would short circuit.

ROMANWKT
25th January 2012, 17:09
This may not just involve the oath keepers as DW is with B Fulford which they state 127 countries, that should turn some elites heads.

NternalArchitect
25th January 2012, 17:11
If what they say is true, you'll know past lives, and won't really be in the same density. The souls of those people are aware, but their mind/bodies aren't. So well be coming from the soul with less veil, not limited awareness we now possess.

Carmody
25th January 2012, 17:14
Although on the whole positive, as Ilie commented earlier on, me too I tend to be a little tired of these sorts of enigmatic claims, while acknowledging that major moves in our very chaotic world need to be handled with care.
Yet, not really convinced that wishfull thinking and meditation will suffice.

Yes everyday more people are realizing what's happening and are fed up with this whole mess.
(including in the very heart of Europe with this seminal book : The nazi roots of The EU-Brussels, published in 2010 http://www.nazi-roots-of-brussels-eu.org/
(and now - Jan 2012 - also available in French)

Will this suffice to avoid the elite to blow it all up in some desperate move ?

Just for the record, here's a quick transcript of Bill Wood's concluding remark.

If I were an elite and find out tomorrow morning about this interview, I would be petrified because I would know that it's over, that the people are figuring out, becoming aware, having hope and there's nothing that can be done anymore because things are happening.

It would be absolutely ideal in this chess game if we didn't have to play the final move to prove that we know we've won. That the good guys have beaten the bad guys. I wish and I pray that the elite, the Bilderbergs, the... you know people that we know and hear about that mostly laugh and say : oh, that's too wild, must be conspiracy. I's not. It's sad. It's true.

And I am very, very hopeful now, with what I know and what I am going to be doing in the next couple of weeks with the help and support that I now have because of the things that I have been doing... There are some real, big, high up, informed people that are acknowledging that things are happening. It's not just me. It's not just David [Wilcock]. And these people know things. They have helped us fill in the blanks that we were starting to put together. And some real cooperation is coming of it.

If you have physical or 3d components, then you need to have some 'aware' skin in the game. For your skin is in the game, so you may as well be in charge of that particular piece of skin.

And in the process, do something that is positive and has a group consensus aspect of some sort so a direction and action of some sort emerges.

Our problem is that the idea of dimensionality and awareness of such is 'on the dock' so to speak and ready to be picked up. There will be a large amount of individuals who will approach their 'reality handling threshold' (in these acts and ideas) and thus their deepest layers, deepest directions and deepest ideas on fundamentals of reality will be engaged.

It is natural, in such situations, that few will agree on those fundamentals as they are deep enough and deep within most most beings (individual deepest inner design). That, as a situational surrounding the idea of physical action.. with regard to consciousness of the given individual...a depth of consciousness and awareness ...that they have never really ever ruminated upon. (their own depths)

So, in such an environment of individual revelation, it is difficult to gain a consensus moment or point of 3d action tied to the multidimensional realization. However, the internally explosive considerations of inner revelation affects each individual in the specific and deep individual way..and we end up with something akin to the idea of an entire army base of willful and determined individuals who know on some levels..how to work as a team. But..as if they are suddenly stoned on acid... and all of them wandering off in different directions, stupefied and blocked from cohesive and conjoined acts and actions due to their individual inner revelations.

This is a akin to the spiritual warrior. Each with the same overall desire and direction regarding finality but each with an individual task tied to who they are.

This is where our problem regarding cohesive action in these areas of human evolution vs human group control --are coming from.

Realization of this critical issue as a point that needs be addressed in all thoughts on such matters --is just about the only way you'll ever get to the point where some cohesive (mass) act may take place, an act that is outside of being based on the hindbrain (herd instinct and deepest fight or flight/etc driving forces)...which is where (the driving force behind) most of our mass acts take place right now.

Nenuphar
25th January 2012, 17:18
I enjoyed the interview (particularly after I propped a notebook against the monitor to obscure the stream of irrelevent and obnoxious comments zipping by on the chat!)

At the end of it, I was left feeling positive and curious to know more. Many of the questions I had were addressed by David, Bill & Kerry. At times, I was left frustrated by vague answers and craved more detail. I wasn't sure if the vague answers were due to fatigue, difficulty articulating complex concepts, or Bill's attempt to answer the questions as best he could while keeping himself safe at the same time. I'm hopeful that there will be follow-up interviews over the next few months that will clarify things.

I'm keeping an open mind and suspending intense skepticism at this point. I don't see the point in watching interviews with whistleblowers and participating in forums like this if one is going to immediately attack and disregard everything that is said - or not said - by the witnesses. My approach is to listen, file it away, and see what develops. If nothing that DW and BW have stressed emphatically is going to happen comes to pass, then they are going to look pretty foolish for having built up such drama and expectation. It seems to me they are putting their necks on the line by saying the things they're saying.

The "occupy area 51" comment made me laugh out loud -what a visual! :p

I'm looking forward to reading what Bill R's impressions of the discussion were.

ljwheat
25th January 2012, 17:21
I would say there's a chance he's blowing smoke up our asses, and maybe not intentionally either. A rise in consciousness is certainly underway.. but I can't fathom such a significant change instantaneously as Mr. Woods and DW proclaim. Nothing happens overnight. I would say that 2012 may mark the crossing of a threshold; from a slightly negative based reality dominated by evil, corruption and deceit and to a slightly positive based reality in favour of love, compassion and respect. 2012 in my opinion is just another year. Regarding a noticeable change in consciousness en masse, I'm far more interested in the years that follow 2012... like 2013.. 2015.. and so on.

Reading between the lines I pick up a subtle undertone that suggests we're not supposed to do anything and that it's all getting taken care of. For me this is one big Red Flag. This statement bill posed to the general public show’s how unaware of the gravity his words project.

Area 51 is a military base with signs posted that state, trespassers will be dealt with by lethal force or imprisonment.

National security warning, you will be fired upon. And you show up with a million people? You couldn’t pick a better way of scaring area 51 into shooting the lot of you. And saying after words We clearly warned you. Cant you read?

Defying a US Air base top secret facility, would be an act of war, I don’t care how good intended your frame of mind or how peaceful, or how you dress. They will shot you! And Bill and David now this. My god what are you thinking. They brought down two towers full of people, and your going to show up with a million at the front gate of there head quarters?

And all this crap of how honorable this guy who would send you to your death with this statement. And David falling apart at the seams when threatened over the phone. Said nothing to this statement. Don’t try this at home it may get you killed.

This is insanity to even go done this road of thought. A one million man suicide march into area 51? I was in the military long enuff to know you will get shot. If we could shot a collage student at Kent state in the 60s, you don’t think they will shoot to protect the fort? :lol:

firstlook
25th January 2012, 17:27
I would say there's a chance he's blowing smoke up our asses, and maybe not intentionally either. A rise in consciousness is certainly underway.. but I can't fathom such a significant change instantaneously as Mr. Woods and DW proclaim. Nothing happens overnight. I would say that 2012 may mark the crossing of a threshold; from a slightly negative based reality dominated by evil, corruption and deceit and to a slightly positive based reality in favour of love, compassion and respect. 2012 in my opinion is just another year. Regarding a noticeable change in consciousness en masse, I'm far more interested in the years that follow 2012... like 2013.. 2015.. and so on.

Reading between the lines I pick up a subtle undertone that suggests we're not supposed to do anything and that it's all getting taken care of. For me this is one big Red Flag. This statement bill posed to the general public show’s how unaware of the gravity his words project.

Area 51 is a military base with signs posted that state, trespassers will be dealt with by lethal force or imprisonment.

National security warning, you will be fired upon. And you show up with a million people? You couldn’t pick a better way of scaring area 51 into shooting the lot of you. And saying after words We clearly warned you. Cant you read?

Defying a US Air base top secret facility, would be an act of war, I don’t care how good intended your frame of mind or how peaceful, or how you dress. They will shot you! And Bill and David now this. My god what are you thinking. They brought down two towers full of people, and your going to show up with a million at the front gate of there head quarters?

And all this crap of how honorable this guy who would send you to your death with this statement. And David falling apart at the seams when threatened over the phone. Said nothing to this statement. Don’t try this at home it may get you killed.

This is insanity to even go done this road of thought. A one million man suicide march into area 51? I was in the military long enuff to know you will get shot. If we could shot a collage student at Kent state in the 60s, you don’t think they will shoot to protect the fort? :lol:

Goose-fra-baa. ;)

Carmody
25th January 2012, 17:28
Ok, here is what I want to discuss about this and maybe I should start a new thread. We will see if people want to discuss it.

Bill, I'd like you to respond because I was going to email you privately, but decided to open the topic up to everyone here.

We keep hearing about some sort of consciousness ascension. I hear this from different sources, some of which have nothing to do with internet conspiracy sites and have no awareness of the bigger picture the way we do here. When I hear this, it sounds exciting and some of it makes a lot of sense. But...I just can't get past this....when I look around me at the Walmart zombie shoppers I see a level of consciousness disconnect so deep and pervasive that I just can't see the majority of people being ready to handle this. I think if these people woke up in a new state of higher consciousness, they would be like newly dead people who are very confused, in denial of their being dead, and seeking still to fulfill the fear-based desires of their old-life. Do you know what I mean?

It's hard for me to believe that most of the people walking the earth can magically ascend to a new state of consciousness from where they are now. The shock of being face to face with their own karmic mess and the nature of who they really are would throw them into psychological chaos.

Thoughts?

I realize that Clif High is persona non grata here at Avalon, but he has been talking for some time about data that describes people standing dumbstruck and drooling, who would require help to even move out of traffic.

This is the visual I get when thinking of the type of consciousness shift being described in this interview. "This is so profound that no one even cares about disclosure, because we are all in touch with the universe, and open to the illusion of reality." There are simply too many people who would short circuit.

Short circuiting (if one wishes to phrase it that way) is part of the revelatory path. Those who venture down that road, if they have not reached their sum total limit on one to many occasions, then they have not done themselves any favors. You have to realize you are broken before you can be fixed.

To fix what is broken on the deepest levels requires being literally broken or short circuited on the deepest levels, consciously so.

However, it is ego that is the problem, not the real being. Since ego is the threshold guardian of incoming and outgoing data regarding conscious 'voice in head' thinking....this becomes a real problem for most individuals.

jackovesk
25th January 2012, 17:37
Just watched...My only wish is that Bill could do a full interview.. in that Woods needs someone to fill his mind space with a complete, and properly formed paragraph before he can add specific answers and speak to the point. I'm not overly ecstatic that anything was truly brought forth, and outed. Seemed a bit tedious... and the DW/BW "Men giggling" kind of sqeamed me out... I thought it was a great question by BR, that deserved a more serious response... It came across rather like a "This is our Club, and you're not invited".. (But the name of my book....)


The toughest part for me in the whole interview was the BW/DW mutual admiration. They seem to be feeding off of each other's incomplete information and making 2+2=5.

This interview reinforced my earlier impressions of BW. Basically a decent human being who was in the military and is not being dishonest, but doesn't "know" as much as he is claiming. It felt like DW was leading him to conclusions and answers.

For the love of all that is good David Wilcock...Why can't you just say it instead of promising more great revelations on your website where your book can be purchased. "Tune in to Divine Cosmos tomorrow for the big reveal that I can't say tonight, because the situation will be different in less than 24 hours and I can spill the beans then."

I have to Agree...:yes4:

From my Notes: (Not Word for Word)

Bill Ryan: "What's your understanding of the 'Variants' of Timeline (1)..?"

Bill Wood: "The only reason I started thinking of the subject was because I read it in David Wilcock's book."

Jackovesk Side Note: "BW started getting nervous when trying to explain, does'nt know..?"

Bill Wood: (Pause) "Very Confusing stuff - Impossible to evaluate."

Bill Ryan: Variants of (T1) what point of history of studying of (Project Looking Glass) - When was the Convergence of (T1) known..?"

Bill Wood: "When the game begins all possibilities exist - Get into zone based on rules of the game - the elimination of pieces - you can see how you eliminate your partners moves e.g. (T2) and play the game accordingly."

David Wilcock: "(Dan Burish) Possible catastrophe..?"

Bill Wood: "Free Will comes down to a choice - conclusion is everybody starts making the same choices - seems to be a definite convergence of Human Consciousness - if you understand all the choices, then you can make the right choices."

Bill Ryan: "Mass Consciousness..?"

Bill Wood: "Instinctively/Intuitively we all know where we want to go."

PS - Quick Question to (BW) Did you only get to read David Wilcocks book in the last few days or so..?

Seikou-Kishi
25th January 2012, 17:43
Occupy Area 51 ;)


I missed most of the interview. Hope there will be a link made available to the full interview

Now that I'd like to see.

Kyra
25th January 2012, 17:45
On the time travellers moving through the 2012 bump-
....melted in pure bliss.... That sounds pretty good to me. Any takers?:becky:

The Oathkeepers are mentioned a number of times. Here's a statement directed to the Oathkeepers reading this thread. This information is an aperitif. The public domain is ready for more, much more. Bring it.

I've been doing extremely deep meditations in nature for the last six months or so, and getting some profound directions from Pure Consciousness.

What has been revealed to me is that the only prayer/intention that is transcendent--free of 3D egoic overlay of our current filters and ideas and beliefs as to how things ought to be--is to simply say:

May All Life Know Bliss

In our ONEness, we see the importance of the role the dark side has played, and thank them for their magnificent performance as they take their final bows.

Those in the know have stated that in our infinite journey, we have all played both dark and light roles ... and in this understanding, we can attain ONEness with those currently playing these dark roles, and thus free ourselves--and all life--from duality.

By sending out this prayer as an on-going wave form:


May All Life Know Bliss

We contribute to this reality at the highest level, pulsing out this frequency in this NOW moment, rather than waiting for any future event.

I am being told that this is the highest contribution we can make to the coming transitions on this planet.

As we are ONE, every part of Creation is entitled to Know Bliss.

Therefore, we can FREE our MINDS from ideas that some deserve this or that.

A mind steeped in lock-step to duality wants to exact its pound of flesh.

A mind freed in Unity knows that whatever role we play here in 3D is only a fractional part of our Whole Identity.

Therefore, a being who plays a dark role may indeed be 99% light in their expanded reality and volunteered for the role, and once the "play" has ended, can return to their original multidimensional state of Pure Light Essence. Perhaps it was their Unconditional Love for humanity that prompted their role-playing of a dark shirt.

These ideas have helped me transcend a 3D judgment based polarization that kept me locked in limitation.

Now is the time to stay empty, as Bill Wood and David Wilcock encouraged, and allow a New Truth to enter into our awareness, and let go of all old beliefs and programming.

That which is useful in our evolution will remain, and limiting beliefs polarizing and entrapping us in 3D duality dancing can be jettisoned.

David W. and Bill W. stated that the biggest secret is knowing that our beliefs create reality.

As we learn to create a standing wave, and on-going pulsation that is sustainable (like an interior permaculture) of our desired belief--FREE of resistance and duality--we can achieve anything.

Step One: transcend all polarizations.

Step One: free our Mind to return to its original state, as designed by our Creator.

Picture is entitled: The Awakened Mind

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Chuck
25th January 2012, 17:48
This statement bill posed to the general public show’s how unaware of the gravity his words project.

Area 51 is a military base with signs posted that state, trespassers will be dealt with by lethal force or imprisonment.

National security warning, you will be fired upon. And you show up with a million people? You couldn’t pick a better way of scaring area 51 into shooting the lot of you. And saying after words We clearly warned you. Cant you read?

Defying a US Air base top secret facility, would be an act of war, I don’t care how good intended your frame of mind or how peaceful, or how you dress. They will shot you! And Bill and David now this. My god what are you thinking. They brought down two towers full of people, and your going to show up with a million at the front gate of there head quarters?

And all this crap of how honorable this guy who would send you to your death with this statement. And David falling apart at the seams when threatened over the phone. Said nothing to this statement. Don’t try this at home it may get you killed.

This is insanity to even go done this road of thought. A one million man suicide march into area 51? I was in the military long enuff to know you will get shot. If we could shot a collage student at Kent state in the 60s, you don’t think they will shoot to protect the fort? :lol:

What you say is true ljwheat… a million people might get shot.

But shot or not, the affect on the consciousness of this planet would be forever changed for the better.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WLrrBs8JBQo

mountain_jim
25th January 2012, 17:49
The toughest part for me in the whole interview was the BW/DW mutual admiration. They seem to be feeding off of each other's incomplete information and making 2+2=5.

This interview reinforced my earlier impressions of BW. Basically a decent human being who was in the military and is not being dishonest, but doesn't "know" as much as he is claiming. It felt like DW was leading him to conclusions and answers.

For the love of all that is good David Wilcock...Why can't you just say it instead of promising more great revelations on your website where your book can be purchased. "Tune in to Divine Cosmos tomorrow for the big reveal that I can't say tonight, because the situation will be different in less than 24 hours and I can spill the beans then."

I also felt a little bit like DW was 'leading the witness'. And wondering how much of Bill Wood's current understanding has been colored/influenced by DW in recent days.
(And I loved DW's book, and tend to be a supporter.) Telling that Bill Ryan thanked the above comment as well.

I just am left wanting more detail, more specifics, though I do understand why that's hard to come by.

Cidersomerset
25th January 2012, 17:49
I didn't think I would stay 'High in the clouds ' for long..........



http://www.quiggers.eu/images/08%2009%20%20spit%20crash.jpg


Back down to earth with a 'Bump'...

Whiskey_Mystic
25th January 2012, 17:52
The toughest part for me in the whole interview was the BW/DW mutual admiration. They seem to be feeding off of each other's incomplete information and making 2+2=5.

This interview reinforced my earlier impressions of BW. Basically a decent human being who was in the military and is not being dishonest, but doesn't "know" as much as he is claiming. It felt like DW was leading him to conclusions and answers.

For the love of all that is good David Wilcock...Why can't you just say it instead of promising more great revelations on your website where your book can be purchased. "Tune in to Divine Cosmos tomorrow for the big reveal that I can't say tonight, because the situation will be different in less than 24 hours and I can spill the beans then."

At one point when DW mentioned the title of his book AGAIN I actually said out loud "Oh for the love of God!"

Nenuphar
25th January 2012, 17:58
At one point when DW mentioned the title of his book AGAIN I actually said out loud "Oh for the love of God!"

Can I "thank" this one twice? :amen:

jackovesk
25th January 2012, 17:59
I also felt a little bit like DW was 'leading the witness'. And wondering how much of Bill Wood's current understanding has been influenced by DW in recent days.
(And I loved DW's book, and tend to be a supporter.) Telling that Bill Ryan thanked the above comment as well.

Question: How many pages is David's book - How long would it take to read & absorb the information..?

Rgs,

Jack

shadowstalker
25th January 2012, 18:02
speaking of seal team 6....

MOGADISHU, Somalia (AP) — U.S. Navy SEALs parachuted into Somalia under cover of darkness early Wednesday and crept up to an outdoor camp where an American woman and Danish man were being held hostage. Soon, nine kidnappers were dead and both hostages were freed.
President Barack Obama authorized the mission by SEAL Team 6 two days earlier, deploying the same unit that killed Osama bin Laden last year. Minutes after the president gave his State of the Union address to Congress he was on the phone with the American's father to tell him his daughter was safe.

more here:
http://news.yahoo.com/us-military-raid-somalia-frees-american-dane-063438091.html

mountain_jim
25th January 2012, 18:06
I also felt a little bit like DW was 'leading the witness'. And wondering how much of Bill Wood's current understanding has been influenced by DW in recent days.
(And I loved DW's book, and tend to be a supporter.) Telling that Bill Ryan thanked the above comment as well.

Question: How many pages is David's book - How long would it take to read & absorb the information..?

Rgs,

Jack

465 pages for Hardcopy. I found it a fairly easy read, but then I had read all of his previous 'free online' books where I became familiar with his earlier treatments of much of this material. My partner felt some sections were pretty boring and not a fun read.

I think the most interesting aspects to me were the exposition of the 'fringe' science of the quantum nature and capabilities of DNA.

jackovesk
25th January 2012, 18:09
speaking of seal team 6....

MOGADISHU, Somalia (AP) — U.S. Navy SEALs parachuted into Somalia under cover of darkness early Wednesday and crept up to an outdoor camp where an American woman and Danish man were being held hostage. Soon, nine kidnappers were dead and both hostages were freed.
President Barack Obama authorized the mission by SEAL Team 6 two days earlier, deploying the same unit that killed Osama bin Laden last year. Minutes after the president gave his State of the Union address to Congress he was on the phone with the American's father to tell him his daughter was safe.

more here:
http://news.yahoo.com/us-military-raid-somalia-frees-american-dane-063438091.html

Good find shadowstalker,

How convenient..?

Gotta love the MSM they never miss a trick..?

Want to buy my Bridge & Opera House..?

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_Mq4S1uVPJOo/S8jkBrHCUQI/AAAAAAAASJ8/mp5o1DxLw9A/s400/Sydney_Harbour_Bridge-Sydney.jpg

Going cheap..! :yes4:

CeltMan
25th January 2012, 18:15
One more important point, that was made towards the end by B.R. (Playing a short audio recording)

RE: Roswell. (addlibbing here) "It is important to note, that regarding Roswell, that TPTB were/are terrified, that the public ever find out the truth.
Because that truth will set us all free. That truth is that they were NOT aliens, but were in fact 'Humans from the Future'. And that 'our future selves had already learned to master our true power as consious beings"

That being the case, it seems to me even more imperative, that we take whatever 'afirmative positive action', to 'collectievly focus on healing the planet'.


In the end, we can debate it as much as we like, we will just have to be patient and wait a little longer.

Lazlo
25th January 2012, 18:19
HMMMM...Bill has been on this thread for quite some time now. Is anyone else waiting with baited breath to see if he is composing one of his famous in-depth and definitive posts? :cool:

Or if he has just walked away from his computer for a while and left the screen up? :(

Update:

DOH! He made a short post and then hopped off the thread. Guess we'll have to be patient.

Tommy
25th January 2012, 18:21
-------

Dear Rosco, All:

Leaning on "reverse speech" (which is simply an audio Rorschach test (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rorschach_test)! ) -- as a means of analysis -- is a very poor substitute for data comparison, hard research, intelligence, and common sense.

Re Sorcha Faal: I don't believe a word of what he (Sorcha Faal = CIA agent David Wood) says... ever. There's no reason to suppose that his claimed report of the sounds in the underground bases is valid simply because it's convenient to believe it.

Re Bill Wood, his report of his seeing one stored Looking Glass device (http://projectcamelot.org/project_looking_glass.html) (with its rings folded) came across as highly credible. He never saw it in operation. Always beware of a whistleblower who claims to know everything. Someone who freely admits that he does not know certain things (or cannot answer certain questions) is an indicator of authenticity for me.

Hi,

I just wanted to point out that I agree with you on every point in your post.
Especially the Sorcha Faal ploy part of it.

Also, I have seen some comments about Bill Wood seeming nervous:
Really? Think about that question again, he is a ex-NAVY WB, should be not feel nervous? And would it not be very suspicious if he did not show emotion?

Funny how these observations "flip flop" from person to person.. lol

All in all, this thread is a great read, thanks :)

And thanks to you Bill Ryan for participating in the event, I found your questions of great value and your audio was great! Well done :)

mountain_jim
25th January 2012, 18:22
On the time travellers moving through the 2012 bump-
....melted in pure bliss.... That sounds pretty good to me. Any takers?:becky:

The Oathkeepers are mentioned a number of times. Here's a statement directed to the Oathkeepers reading this thread. This information is an aperitif. The public domain is ready for more, much more. Bring it.

.....

These ideas have helped me transcend a 3D judgment based polarization that kept me locked in limitation.

Now is the time to stay empty, as Bill Wood and David Wilcock encouraged, and allow a New Truth to enter into our awareness, and let go of all old beliefs and programming.

That which is useful in our evolution will remain, and limiting beliefs polarizing and entrapping us in 3D duality dancing can be jettisoned.

David W. and Bill W. stated that the biggest secret is knowing that our beliefs create reality.

As we learn to create a standing wave, and on-going pulsation that is sustainable (like an interior permaculture) of our desired belief--FREE of resistance and duality--we can achieve anything.

Step One: transcend all polarizations.

Step One: free our Mind to return to its original state, as designed by our Creator.

Picture is entitled: The Awakened Mind

13058



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.

I found this post fantastic, and I strongly resonate with this. I am currently re-reading Seths - The Nature of Personal Reality which really gets you thinking about how you create Reality from "the Present Point of (your) Power" and of how your beliefs or belief systems so affect and limit these creations.

Also resonate with this from Carmody, as it was several powerful plant-lead shamanic journeys which effected a similar change in me as this:


Short circuiting (if one wishes to phrase it that way) is part of the revelatory path. Those who venture down that road, if they have not reached their sum total limit on one to many occasions, then they have not done themselves any favors. You have to realize you are broken before you can be fixed.

To fix what is broken on the deepest levels requires being literally broken or short circuited on the deepest levels, consciously so.

However, it is ego that is the problem, not the real being. Since ego is the threshold guardian of incoming and outgoing data regarding conscious 'voice in head' thinking....this becomes a real problem for most individuals.

gripreaper
25th January 2012, 18:49
Bill Ryan played a one minute, six second statement from (?) don't remember the name. Does anyone have a transcript of that one minute segue?

seehas
25th January 2012, 19:03
Bill Ryan played a one minute, six second statement from (?) don't remember the name. Does anyone have a transcript of that one minute segue?

sure here it is,


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sSWAQiw2evk


by the way great interview this morning it was worth staying awake that long in europe :)

i loved to see camelot like in old times with kerry and bill

i want more of it ;)

Bill Ryan
25th January 2012, 19:05
Bill Ryan played a one minute, six second statement from (?) don't remember the name. Does anyone have a transcript of that one minute segue?

http:/projectavalon.net/Bill_Birnes_George_Hoover.mp3






GEORGE NOORY: What we don’t know about the situation at Roswell is whether these were extraterrestrial, whether they came from a hollow Earth, whether they came from another dimension. We don’t know this, right?

BILL BIRNES: We don’t. The only clue that I had was from this Naval officer – he was from the Office of Naval intelligence, ONI, called George Hoover; we’ve talked about him before – who said that he was “the Corso of the Navy,” and that the military believed, and he said he knew, that these entities were not so much interplanetary, but they were literally time-travelers.

And the big secret is that they were us from the future and that we and they had the same powers – and that was the real fear of the government, that we have the ability to manipulate reality around us.

We’ve always had that ability, we just didn’t know how to use it, and if we ever learned how to use it and we’re not ready for it, we would cause chaos. And that was the big secret that the Navy eventually found out.

seehas
25th January 2012, 19:11
hej bill,

i was suprised kerry gave u so much time for the questions (just kidding)

to see u and david questioning that guy was realy what made that interview so special, i cant remember many interviews where i had no questions myself afterwards

great stuff ! and i loved your idea about the update about the next chess-game-steps in a month or so

keep it up

NternalArchitect
25th January 2012, 19:16
Kyra, bravo!!! Excellent post.

firstlook
25th January 2012, 19:25
haven't seen this posted.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9k7J0RWLFGo

Alie
25th January 2012, 19:47
This has also been a huge question for me. A collective, growing awareness of all of humanity currently on Earth ??? What about all the miserably poor billions on the streets in India, China, Africa and 3rd world countries in general? What about the billions still totally immersed in some organized religious belief system and extremely offended and defensive about anything challenging it? The sum total of the community discussing concepts like we are is immeasurably small on this Earth.

Well what about the 100th monkey effect? Is there the number 8100 floating around? If yes, then it is definitely meant for a "few" of us to internalize certain ideas on behalf of many

ljwheat
25th January 2012, 19:56
This statement bill posed to the general public show’s how unaware of the gravity his words project.

Area 51 is a military base with signs posted that state, trespassers will be dealt with by lethal force or imprisonment.

National security warning, you will be fired upon. And you show up with a million people? You couldn’t pick a better way of scaring area 51 into shooting the lot of you. And saying after words We clearly warned you. Cant you read?

Defying a US Air base top secret facility, would be an act of war, I don’t care how good intended your frame of mind or how peaceful, or how you dress. They will shot you! And Bill and David now this. My god what are you thinking. They brought down two towers full of people, and your going to show up with a million at the front gate of there head quarters?

And all this crap of how honorable this guy who would send you to your death with this statement. And David falling apart at the seams when threatened over the phone. Said nothing to this statement. Don’t try this at home it may get you killed.

This is insanity to even go done this road of thought. A one million man suicide march into area 51? I was in the military long enuff to know you will get shot. If we could shot a collage student at Kent state in the 60s, you don’t think they will shoot to protect the fort? :lol:

What you say is true ljwheat… a million people might get shot.

But shot or not, the affect on the consciousness of this planet would be forever changed for the better.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WLrrBs8JBQo

Point taken, and this, This Very thought IS exactly what the elite wont to happen to wipe us out completely. Yes OH yes if it were only hand to hand sword to sword , I would stand with you at the for front in blazing saddles to victory.

But I know that from 114 miles over head on a space platform sits a weapon that would vaporize a million man army with the flip of a switch.

Game changing Yes, the Alamo no, a suicidal run on area 51 yes. My point is this interview all four knew this stuff. But to consider even the thought of a chess move as this is insane, that’s my RED FLAG waving.

Strap a bomb on your chest, and say I’ll show them is not the answer.:rant:
That is just so wrong. 26,000 yrs of fighting like this. :violin: why must we insist on being DEAD right all the time.:wizard:

viking
25th January 2012, 20:01
And the big secret is that they were us from the future and that we and they had the same powers – and that was the real fear of the government, that we have the ability to manipulate reality around us.

We’ve always had that ability, we just didn’t know how to use it, and if we ever learned how to use it and we’re not ready for it, we would cause chaos. And that was the big secret that the Navy eventually found out. [/FONT][/SIZE][/INDENT][/INDENT][/INDENT][/INDENT]

I wonder if this has got to do with 'consciousness' and 'thought projection' ... ?

If we could unlock this secret of 'creating instantaneously ' ... then we have it ... bang !

Hmmmm .... ?!!

viking

Alie
25th January 2012, 20:16
If we could unlock this secret of 'creating instantaneously ' ... then we have it ... bang !

Hmmmm .... ?!!

viking

Greg Braden addresses this in his book, "The Spontaneous Healing of Belief" - he says the secret to creating reality is in understanding what belief is then being able to "feel" belief. I think what we're all attempting to find out is WHAT DO WE BELIEVE?

EnergyGardener
25th January 2012, 20:31
Point taken, and this, This Very thought IS exactly what the elite wont to happen to wipe us out completely. Yes OH yes if it were only hand to hand sword to sword , I would stand with you at the for front in blazing saddles to victory.

But I know that from 114 miles over head on a space platform sits a weapon that would vaporize a million man army with the flip of a switch.

Game changing Yes, the Alamo no, a suicidal run on area 51 yes. My point is this interview all four knew this stuff. But to consider even the thought of a chess move as this is insane, that’s my RED FLAG waving.

Strap a bomb on your chest, and say I’ll show them is not the answer.:rant:
That is just so wrong. 26,000 yrs of fighting like this. :violin: why must we insist on being DEAD right all the time.:wizard:

ljwheat,

All great points: I do believe surviving the Illuminati departure is preferred.:chess:

We certainly cannot tolerate further the operation of a space platform weapon that may be used against us, or any other benevolent entity. Can you describe the branch of service that operates this weapon, its energy source and the location of the remote controls?:lever:

another bob
25th January 2012, 20:35
BILL BIRNES: And the big secret is that they were us from the future and that we and they had the same powers – and that was the real fear of the government, that we have the ability to manipulate reality around us.

We’ve always had that ability, we just didn’t know how to use it, and if we ever learned how to use it and we’re not ready for it, we would cause chaos.

Here's a pertinent piece on "Manifesting", which is the salient issue of this inquiry:

During my afterlife experience, I received two separate "downloads" of information about manifesting physical reality. The first came right after I had intentionally manifested three completely real feeling earth-like scenes. I knew they were not real, because I knew I was no longer on Earth. The scenes were identified to me as "manifestations." The second download came after I had completed the transformation into spiritual perspective, and realized my human life had not been real at all. Human life was identified to me as a "manifestation."

I learned that "manifesting" is the phenomenon by which Source/God creates what humans perceive to be physical matter and physical reality. I also learned that we are not humans, which are manifested animals. Rather, we are something like characters or personalities within Source's own mind/consciousness. Therefore, as parts of Source, we also manifest physical matter and physical reality, though on a smaller scale. We continue to manifest while inhabiting human animal bodies as "souls." Humans themselves cannot manifest.

Like Source itself, we manifest reality by focusing our "attention and intention" on what we desire to experience. "Attention" can take any form that focuses us on the topic of interest, such as ordering our thoughts, visualizing what we want to create, researching the subject, conversation about the subject, and taking physical action in furtherance of what we want to experience. "Intention" must be spiritual creative intention. The highest form of creative intention is expectation--certainty at our spiritual level that a thing will exist, or an event transpire. Manifesting is an innate spiritual mental power. It has nothing to do with human desire or emotions, which are irrelevant.

We "souls" use manifesting to moment-by-moment craft our own sense of reality, as well as contribute to the collective co-creation of Earth that we all experience (though how we experience it differs from person to person). If we are not manifesting consciously, we are doing so unconsciously. We use manifesting to serve our spiritual purposes, not human greed. There is no spiritual get rich quick scheme, as manifesting is sometimes portrayed. Manifesting follows beliefs. We consciously and unconsciously manifest into reality what we truly and deeply believe. Sometimes we experience something we think we would never have chosen for ourselves. But, in reality, we may simply be manifesting from beliefs of which we are unaware.

There is no "Law of Attraction," according to what I learned in the afterlife. The idea of a law of attraction is based on the human belief that we are separate beings from Source--that we are humans. It is easier to believe we are separate from Source, and that we can use human powers to attract something we want from the universe/Source/God, than to accept that we are actually part of the Supreme Being we worship. But we are part of Source. And we do have its powers. We do not attract anything from the universe; rather, we create what we want within the physical matter universe. We are co-creators with Source of this universe and everything in it.

~Nanci Danison

:yo:

Tangri
25th January 2012, 20:36
A great question from (our) Bill, wether Bill Wood knows what the near future months hold and a slight evasion from him answering it,saying that even if he would know the answer,he would not have shared it as to not impact people's free will. How does that settle with his notion that all timelines are being led to the same one consequence?!

Limor, I understand what you are saying But...

This following Observation is not directed at you personally, it is just a Quick Wake Up call to all of US...

Its 'High Time' we all started to look (WITHIN) for the Answers...

By all means you can be guided by the likes of BW, KC, DW & BR, but please start (EXCERCISING) your own (KNOWING) to find out the Answers to the Questions you already innately know the Answers too...:yes4:

That's the Whole Point, if we are to reach our (Own Human Potential)..! That is the real (SECRET) that the OWO/PTW don't want us to Act On let alone Manifest..!

Rgs,

Jack :)
I agree with Limor,

B. Wood says He will not share it because it will impact people's free will, but same time he shared with Wilcock and his free will has been changed with new information. He is accepting changes at his or David's free will but not others.

Also if outcome is not going to change at certain time why he bothers himself for plea bargaining for safety. He is fluctuating between assurance and uncertainty.

ljwheat
25th January 2012, 20:47
I am going out on a limb here, -- using my internal power of dot connecting , like the interview has said to do and purpose a answer David W and Bill seem to not want to say.

The Matrix (the Glue that hold our mind in elusion (Vail) program is tied to the AI on the moon) that and the fact that we continue to move ever closer to the photon belt were not only our magnetism , electric, based systems fail, and will end our way of life. The AI alien computer program on the moon, is going to fail. That will lift the blinders and the shackles of our minds all at once.

That part of the brain that’s be hind the Vail is more than 90% of our being. From birth all we have known is this life inside the Vail of the Matrix. Once that Vail is gone, I will know all thoughts see anything I want to look at, go were ever I will just with a thought.

No power on earth has been able to knock out that computer on the moon that’s controlling everything threw our minds.

The photon belt just like in star trek entering a nebula all there interments fail , as we reach the outer boundaries all this stuff we have and ET has will start to fail. So to the AI.

Once that door of the mind opens, and we no longer have that Vail OMG can you imagine? Suddenly you’ll remember all the past lives, and knowledge stored away, plus all that is now on and on and on.

So the alien technology that was so impenetrable is going to fail, explains a lot dose it not?

With all this posturing shhhhh cant say this or that really wont matter will it? And all the rest of this BS is trying to keep the Vail in place right up to the very last moment possible. Like the movie They LIVE, the transmitter is knocked out and everyone is suddenly awake. TAAA Daaa!

Love you all think about it . Namaste John:dance:

Mulder
25th January 2012, 20:58
At 1.01 minutes on the youtube posting of this Q & A - I was amazed to hear Bill Wood say that if we "blew up" the nucleus of a hydrogen atom up to the size of a pea, the electron would need a football stadium sized area to spin around in! Wow - this is amazing & imagine the size of the area the electrons of larger atoms like Carbon would need! [Bill Wood said all this, not me - I want to acknowledge my source!]

ROMANWKT
25th January 2012, 20:59
Hi ljwheat

I like that a lot and have read two items about this before, both describing the reboot of the matrix, or an upgrade, like from XP to vista to win7, this information is around and it states a reboot every 26.000 years.

regards
roman

Tangri
25th January 2012, 21:03
They seemed like two kids promised the reward of lollipops after church for remaining silent during the service. While this might have seemed odd for most, this was also a positive, trying to appreciate the exciting information they knew, but couldn't tell. But it also meant we were wasting our time beyond that point; wasn't that the purpose of the interview?

I wouldn't agree more EnergyGardener. I WOULD TELL YOU SOMETHING WHICH I JUST HEARD FROM SOMEBODY, BUT YOU ARE NOT READY ( I was sure ready when I heard it) to hear whole.
Isn't it becoming cliche?

I want to say to cliche's users
HEY YOU!! If you have something to say, say it. Don't bobble it .
No time for waiting or expecting make money from it. Money will not be useful The Last minute , when the time comes.
I will promise you no one is going to harm or ridicule you if you disclose what you feel is true.

araucaria
25th January 2012, 21:14
Doubt is a very healthy reaction. However the doubt on this thread seems to have spilled over into something else. B Wood is a disinfo agent, then DW is his proxy, and Bill and Kerry are their accomplices???

I am surprised no one so far has said that all this endorses Dan Burisch, who is supposedly discredited.

If you call everyone's good faith into question, what does that say about you?

EnergyGardener
25th January 2012, 21:54
:yu:
I am going out on a limb here, -- using my internal power of dot connecting , like the interview has said to do and purpose a answer David W and Bill seem to not want to say.

The Matrix (the Glue that hold our mind in elusion (Vail) program is tied to the AI on the moon) that and the fact that we continue to move ever closer to the photon belt were not only our magnetism , electric, based systems fail, and will end our way of life. The AI alien computer program on the moon, is going to fail. That will lift the blinders and the shackles of our minds all at once.

That part of the brain that’s be hind the Vail is more than 90% of our being. From birth all we have known is this life inside the Vail of the Matrix. Once that Vail is gone, I will know all thoughts see anything I want to look at, go were ever I will just with a thought.

No power on earth has been able to knock out that computer on the moon that’s controlling everything threw our minds.

The photon belt just like in star trek entering a nebula all there interments fail , as we reach the outer boundaries all this stuff we have and ET has will start to fail. So to the AI.

Once that door of the mind opens, and we no longer have that Vail OMG can you imagine? Suddenly you’ll remember all the past lives, and knowledge stored away, plus all that is now on and on and on.

So the alien technology that was so impenetrable is going to fail, explains a lot dose it not?

With all this posturing shhhhh cant say this or that really wont matter will it? And all the rest of this BS is trying to keep the Vail in place right up to the very last moment possible. Like the movie They LIVE, the transmitter is knocked out and everyone is suddenly awake. TAAA Daaa!

Love you all think about it . Namaste John:dance:

ljwheat,

You've been holding out on us.:yu:

gripreaper
25th January 2012, 21:59
Like the movie They LIVE, the transmitter is knocked out and everyone is suddenly awake.

Excellent movie, although a bit old and cheesy, illustrates how we are controlled.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=inZUDMGJsKo

gripreaper
25th January 2012, 22:19
And the big secret is that they were us from the future and that we and they had the same powers – and that was the real fear of the government, that we have the ability to manipulate reality around us.

We’ve always had that ability, we just didn’t know how to use it, and if we ever learned how to use it and we’re not ready for it, we would cause chaos. And that was the big secret that the Navy eventually found out.

The really, really big secret, is that those who do not have heart cannot use their lower "Siddhis" abilities of clairevoyance, claireaudience, clairesentience, and the higher "Siddhis" of bilocation, levitation, and teleportation. They can only manipulate it with their technology, which is why Atlantis went down.

I did the "Siddhis" workshop with Tom Kenyon years ago and his ability to "tone" the primordial sound is quite impressive. Here is a writeup on the "Siddhis"

http://tomkenyon.com/siddhis

ljwheat
25th January 2012, 22:32
:yu:
I am going out on a limb here, -- using my internal power of dot connecting , like the interview has said to do and purpose a answer David W and Bill seem to not want to say.

The Matrix (the Glue that hold our mind in elusion (Vail) program is tied to the AI on the moon) that and the fact that we continue to move ever closer to the photon belt were not only our magnetism , electric, based systems fail, and will end our way of life. The AI alien computer program on the moon, is going to fail. That will lift the blinders and the shackles of our minds all at once.

That part of the brain that’s be hind the Vail is more than 90% of our being. From birth all we have known is this life inside the Vail of the Matrix. Once that Vail is gone, I will know all thoughts see anything I want to look at, go were ever I will just with a thought.

No power on earth has been able to knock out that computer on the moon that’s controlling everything threw our minds.

The photon belt just like in star trek entering a nebula all there interments fail , as we reach the outer boundaries all this stuff we have and ET has will start to fail. So to the AI.

Once that door of the mind opens, and we no longer have that Vail OMG can you imagine? Suddenly you’ll remember all the past lives, and knowledge stored away, plus all that is now on and on and on.

So the alien technology that was so impenetrable is going to fail, explains a lot dose it not?

With all this posturing shhhhh cant say this or that really wont matter will it? And all the rest of this BS is trying to keep the Vail in place right up to the very last moment possible. Like the movie They LIVE, the transmitter is knocked out and everyone is suddenly awake. TAAA Daaa!

Love you all think about it . Namaste John:dance:

ljwheat,

You've been holding out on us.:yu:

Yes and No, as stated in the interview/on the internet/ art bell/ whistle blowers/like a code book its all out in the open. But the code book has been so fragmented and spread out and compartmentalized then smothered in disinformation and discrimination on those who have a vital peace of the puzzle, connecting the dots is just a walk in the park if you meditate in the heart.

You don’t have to be famous or a big shot to unravel all the knots they tie into there importance, once you know they no longer have any importance and become equals. Status is why they hold out. To hang onto there rank and file.

Once you learn the trick or magic, it only becomes technology doable. The biggest peace of the puzzle is your connection to the universal consciousness, ears to hear and eye’s to see. The Vail is now very weak and the mini me clone they have at area 51 of its mother on the moon is being for shadowed by our reaching the outer boundaries of the photon belt/our sun is weakening these AI’s affect as well as mother is dropping her magnetic shields allowing more photons to break threw.

Davids resent book go’s into how all these energy fields inter act. The biggest one as I said before is shutting down the moon. And the fog will lift. There are beings with the same powers of persuasion but not on the scale of the moon AI.

And that’s all I know the rest is all in the future that has not taken place that shakes there boots off. No wonder there digging holes to hide in. or jumping ship to Mars. Only one problem with that thinking is this hole solar system is heading into the belt of photon light. No escape HA HA:yield: namaste JOHN XX

christian
25th January 2012, 22:37
Reading between the lines I pick up a subtle undertone that suggests we're not supposed to do anything and that it's all getting taken care of. For me this is one big Red Flag.

Would be correct, but this is a misrepresentation in my view, instead of "don't do anything" it's rather like "don't change/stop doing what you're doing".




Here's a pertinent piece on "Manifesting", which is the salient issue of this inquiry:

There is no "Law of Attraction," according to what I learned in the afterlife. The idea of a law of attraction is based on the human belief that we are separate beings from Source--that we are humans. It is easier to believe we are separate from Source, and that we can use human powers to attract something we want from the universe/Source/God, than to accept that we are actually part of the Supreme Being we worship. But we are part of Source. And we do have its powers. We do not attract anything from the universe; rather, we create what we want within the physical matter universe. We are co-creators with Source of this universe and everything in it.

Very good post altogether bob, the point of 'there is no law of attraction' in my view alludes to the fact, that the set of laws is not the same in each dimension of existence.


I am surprised no one so far has said that all this endorses Dan Burisch, who is supposedly discredited.

From what I understand, Dan was (influenced by his lady and) led to believe that Kerry & Bill have a sinister agenda, thus he stopped the contact. - This does not discredit his testimony.

mountain_jim
25th January 2012, 22:42
And the big secret is that they were us from the future and that we and they had the same powers – and that was the real fear of the government, that we have the ability to manipulate reality around us.

We’ve always had that ability, we just didn’t know how to use it, and if we ever learned how to use it and we’re not ready for it, we would cause chaos. And that was the big secret that the Navy eventually found out.

The really, really big secret, is that those who do not have heart cannot use their lower "Siddhis" abilities of clairevoyance, claireaudience, clairesentience, and the higher "Siddhis" of bilocation, levitation, and teleportation. They can only manipulate it with their technology, which is why Atlantis went down.

I did the "Siddhis" workshop with Tom Kenyon years ago and his ability to "tone" the primordial sound is quite impressive. Here is a writeup on the "Siddhis"

http://tomkenyon.com/siddhis

Definitely a good choice of reading for certain aspects of this thread and last night's subject matter...

an excerpt


As I wrote that last sentence, I remembered the Mayan calendar and its prediction regarding the powers of consciousness. According to some translations of the Mayan prophesies, at the year 2012A.D. we will depart from the Age of the Intellect and time, as we know it. If they are correct, we will pass through a collective planetary portal on that date and enter the Age of the Gods.

Indeed, if the majority of humanity reaches the level of attaining siddhic powers, we would be very much in the Age of the Gods. Only time will tell if the Mayan prophecies are correct in this regard. In point of fact, it would not take a majority of humanity to express the siddhis in order to usher in a new Age of the Gods. It would only take a small percentage of individuals to tip the scales, so to speak.

Those of us engaged in spiritual practices to accelerate personal evolution are, I believe, making a tangible contribution to the future destiny of this world. Consciousness has a subtle, yet potent affect upon the environment. Numerous scientific studies have demonstrated this.

I am thinking, in particular, about experiments on the effects of prayer conducted by Larry Dossey, M.D. There have also been extensive studies conducted by Maharishi International University on the effects of the siddhis on the environment. Specifically, when a group of individuals enters a high state of coherency, as in yogic meditation, there are distinct positive influences on the environment. These include such things as increased wellness of the individuals, decreased psychological stress and a decrease in crime. This is very interesting stuff. It shows that we don’t live in a vacuum, that our thoughts and experiences have measurable effects on the world around us.

One reason I wrote this article is to bring the concept of the siddhis to a larger audience outside the traditional yogic circles. My motivation for this? I believe that more and more of us are experiencing spontaneous arisings of the siddhis, especially the lesser siddhis. I am already seeing this happen, and suspect there will be an even greater increase as we pass through the next ten years. Knowing that they are a natural part of spiritual evolution may, perhaps, make it easier for you to accept them when they arise.

Lazlo
25th January 2012, 22:54
At 1.01 minutes on the youtube posting of this Q & A - I was amazed to hear Bill Wood say that if we "blew up" the nucleus of a hydrogen atom up to the size of a pea, the electron would need a football stadium sized area to spin around in! Wow - this is amazing & imagine the size of the area the electrons of larger atoms like Carbon would need! [Bill Wood said all this, not me - I want to acknowledge my source!]

If you like this kind of mind expanding description of the universe, I would suggest two books as excellent reads.

The Dancing Wu Li Masters by Gary Zukov (a classic)

and The Elegant Universe by Brian Greene.

onawah
25th January 2012, 22:58
The best conclusion I can draw, as has been suggested widely, is that those who are not ready for the new paradigm will simply stop incarnating here on Earth.
Many of them will simply not survive the new frequencies coming in and will expire from a number of conditions such as heart attacks, strokes, cancer etc. which are really just symptoms of an inability to survive in the new paradigm.
There are many other worlds where 3D experiencing continues apace, and they will choose according to their needs.
This constitutes a graduation for Earth too.
It will no longer be a school of 3D experiencing, though 3D will still be a part of our experience here, of course.
The higher frequencies of 4 & 5 D will expand the possibilities of Earth life greatly, which will be much more harmonious and sustainable.
Earth was apparently once a 5D planet, but dropped into the lower frequencies for a time and is now regaining lost ground very quickly.
This is a very esoteric explanation, but there is science to support it if you look for it.


Ok, here is what I want to discuss about this and maybe I should start a new thread. We will see if people want to discuss it.

Bill, I'd like you to respond because I was going to email you privately, but decided to open the topic up to everyone here.

We keep hearing about some sort of consciousness ascension. I hear this from different sources, some of which have nothing to do with internet conspiracy sites and have no awareness of the bigger picture the way we do here. When I hear this, it sounds exciting and some of it makes a lot of sense. But...I just can't get past this....when I look around me at the Walmart zombie shoppers I see a level of consciousness disconnect so deep and pervasive that I just can't see the majority of people being ready to handle this. I think if these people woke up in a new state of higher consciousness, they would be like newly dead people who are very confused, in denial of their being dead, and seeking still to fulfill the fear-based desires of their old-life. Do you know what I mean?

It's hard for me to believe that most of the people walking the earth can magically ascend to a new state of consciousness from where they are now. The shock of being face to face with their own karmic mess and the nature of who they really are would throw them into psychological chaos.

Thoughts?

modwiz
25th January 2012, 23:04
I see Kerry is promoting Sean David Morton's new book. There is something very 'off' about that critter. I am not the only one who sees it. I guess she needs to play with the approved guest list.

She has to know better. Her credibility has grown recently, I feel bad she might be stuck playing the Awake and Aware game.

His last interview with Fulford was a mockery of a sincere interviewing style. He sought after sensational and lurid details. So MSM in style. He also acted distractingly at the last A&A tour/show?

christian
25th January 2012, 23:07
ost of the people walking the earth can magically ascend to a new state of consciousness from where they are now. The shock of being face to face with their own karmic mess and the nature of who they really are would throw them into psychological chaos.



Many of them will simply not survive the new frequencies coming in and will expire from a number of conditions such as heart attacks, strokes, cancer etc. which are really just symptoms of an inability to survive in the new paradigm.


From what I read in Drunvalo's "Flower of Life", in 5D thoughts and emotions immediately manifest. Given that, it's not hard to fathom, that many people would bounce right out of it very quickly. They'd manifest their own 'deaths' in myriads of ways.

modwiz
25th January 2012, 23:11
ost of the people walking the earth can magically ascend to a new state of consciousness from where they are now. The shock of being face to face with their own karmic mess and the nature of who they really are would throw them into psychological chaos.



Many of them will simply not survive the new frequencies coming in and will expire from a number of conditions such as heart attacks, strokes, cancer etc. which are really just symptoms of an inability to survive in the new paradigm.


From what I read in Drunvalo's "Flower of Life", in 5D thoughts and emotions immediately manifest. Given that, it's not hard to fathom, that many people would bounce right back into 3D. They'd manifest their own 'deaths' in myriads of ways.

Having every focused thought in your mind manifest would be a nightmare for many people. Your point about being knocked right back into 3-D is very observant. It would be merciful as well.

Kyra
25th January 2012, 23:13
And the big secret is that they were us from the future and that we and they had the same powers – and that was the real fear of the government, that we have the ability to manipulate reality around us.

We’ve always had that ability, we just didn’t know how to use it, and if we ever learned how to use it and we’re not ready for it, we would cause chaos. And that was the big secret that the Navy eventually found out.

This reminds me of channeled info from the Cassiopaens:
January 21, 1995:


"There is no time so you are already are where you are, you see, we are you in the "future".

and here:

August 17, 2000:


Q: The Wave will happen, everything will change, become new, and that's that?
A: What matters most is what others are doing, have done and will do.
Q: Who are these others that it matters most what they have done, are doing and will do?
A: Program rewriters, i.e. you and us in the future.

That is an intriguing bit: program rewriters.

Marciniak's Bringers of the Dawn adds this:


As we said, we come from your future, and, in certain instances, we have our hands full. We need you, just as you need us.

You, as members of the Family of Light, can institute, implement, or insert a grand new probability in the chain of realities that will implode in the next twenty years from this sector of existence because you physically live on this planet. It is through you that the transformation will occur. What you do now vastly affects us. What happens with Earth vastly affects us.


You have been hired and are on assignment from the future to catapult back into this cycle of existence to incarnate many times so that you can understand what has kept humans controlled. In this way, you can operate from the inside and change the system.

There had to be a purpose for truth seekers to take a 3D body, and changing the system from the inside as program rewriters, and mastering the use of unwavering belief as THE secret power may be the purpose of our lives--for those of us who feel the pull to participate.

Or perhaps feel that we are moving backwards in time, having already hooked into our future.

As the brilliant Gregg Braden has highlighted in his stories, the mantra "Already done, already done" can change matter almost instantaneously.

Watch this amazing video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ufVjdvRw4LM&feature=related) if you have not seen cancer disappear in 3 minutes.

This is time shifting into a future where what we want already exists.

This volume is available online here (http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/pleyades/esp_pleyades_14.htm).

Now is the time to spread our wings, and remember our ancient abilities to create, to believe, and to time travel in this belief to the optimum future with outcomes that allow all life to know bliss.
..
.

christian
25th January 2012, 23:21
Having every focused thought in your mind manifest would be a nightmare for many people. Your point about being knocked right back into 3-D is very observant. It would be merciful as well.

Just edited my post before you replied, maybe it's logical to step back into 4D first, as the body may be lost then and without a body no existence in 3D. - I guess I'll learn about the mechanics of it in due course :)

modwiz
25th January 2012, 23:28
Having every focused thought in your mind manifest would be a nightmare for many people. Your point about being knocked right back into 3-D is very observant. It would be merciful as well.

Just edited my post before you replied, maybe it's logical to step back into 4D first, as the body may be lost then and without a body no existence in 3D. - I guess I'll learn about the mechanics of it in due course :)

I understand what you are saying and what you mean. Such terms are still being used with some plasticity, IMO, so exactness will prove elusive at times. Your desire for clarity is admirable and appreciated, I'm sure.

gripreaper
25th January 2012, 23:35
Q: The Wave will happen, everything will change, become new, and that's that?
A: What matters most is what others are doing, have done and will do.
Q: Who are these others that it matters most what they have done, are doing and will do?
A: Program rewriters, i.e. you and us in the future.

That is an intriguing bit: program rewriters.

Marciniak's Bringers of the Dawn adds this:


As we said, we come from your future, and, in certain instances, we have our hands full. We need you, just as you need us.

You, as members of the Family of Light, can institute, implement, or insert a grand new probability in the chain of realities that will implode in the next twenty years from this sector of existence because you physically live on this planet. It is through you that the transformation will occur. What you do now vastly affects us. What happens with Earth vastly affects us.
.

Now is the time to spread our wings, and remember our ancient abilities to create, to believe, and to time travel in this belief to the optimum future with outcomes that allow all life to know bliss.

Ah, those were the days, back in 1987-1995 with the Harmonic Convergence and such writers as Barbara Marciniak. Took me a bit down memory lane as that was also when Barbara Brennan wrote "Hands of Light" and began her school, and Virginia Essene and "See Publishing" featured Louise Hay. Big changes were happening at Findhorn, the Esalen Institute and the Omega Institute.

What I find interesting, is that some of us have been spiritual journeyer's for 20 to 30 years, and I've noticed that those awakening now are getting up to speed in a couple of years, what took us 25 to 30 years.

So there is a cumulative effect and an acceleration. I see it all around me.

TargeT
25th January 2012, 23:38
Hello Ilie,

Questions: Do we have to be 'Spoonfed Everything'..?

Can't we start using our own Intuiton/Intention to clear the Pathway to (T1)..?

Strategic Endeavours on such a 'Wide Scope' are never Won by handing your Strategy/Moves over to those you wish to defeat...

...am I missing something here..?

In fact, if you were to use such a 'Strategy' are you saying the whole story may be fabricated or a stretch of the Truth..?

& why would you EVER want "your team" just "sitting there, being open to what comes" that sounds like what you tell the "other team" to do (we are in a duality universe, this is about sides, it always will be).

this in action theme is very very disturbing.




They (the powers) are playing with fire however. The backfires (http://science.howstuffworks.com/nature/natural-disasters/fight-fire-with-fire1.htm) they are setting by seeding these various revelations are in opposition to a wildfire of increasing awareness of our human capacities, history and true science, thanks to humanity's recent dramatic increase in intra-civilization communication (Internet, cell phones, ...).

(The above is my personal view, and not that of this forum or, I'd guess, most of its members :).)


I couldn't agree more.. this is how I see the game being played out.

The same old tricks are being used in a new game format,, the same tricks aren't working, but the "oppressors" have nothing else in their little bag... we are starting to catch on...




On the time travellers moving through the 2012 bump-
....melted in pure bliss.... That sounds pretty good to me. Any takers?:becky:

The Oathkeepers are mentioned a number of times. Here's a statement directed to the Oathkeepers reading this thread. This information is an aperitif. The public domain is ready for more, much more. Bring it.

Yes - I was curious as to Why, they could'nt have had an Oathkeeper representative on to validate BWs Military Credentials..?

Of course I am assuming they are talking about these Oathkeepers, only because BW mentioned them several times in both Interviews, saying he was Vetted extensively by them as to maintain not only his Military background, but his Trustworthiness aswell..?

He virtually said: Being Vetted by Oathkeepers was just as, if not tougher than the Vetting he went through within the Military to obtain his 'Indigo' (Above Top Secret) Clearance...

http://29.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lwm59lg8GV1qcpxrgo1_100.png........http://intheknow7.files.wordpress.com/2010/10/other-keeper-ranger-style-logo1.jpg?w=500

Link...

http://oathkeepers.org/oath/2011/12/08/oath-keepers-alert-federal-agents-demand-customer-lists-from-mormon-food-storage-facility/


I am an OathKeeper, I could not speak to what Bill was saying as far as vetting, Oathkeepers was originaly started as a mostly political group, though I personally never saw it as anything but re affirming the oath I keep.

I wear it (obviously) as a badge of pride
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y64/zTargeTz/ca16faff.jpg

[What I find interesting, is that some of us have been spiritual journeyer's for 20 to 30 years, and I've noticed that those awakening now are getting up to speed in a couple of years, what took us 25 to 30 years.

So there is an cumulative effect and an acceleration. I see it all around me.

2005 was my "awaking moment"

this is the paradigm shifter, the speed of knowledge propigation was (IMO) an accident,, the internet at first had so many "gains" for "TPTW" that it HAD to happen, but,,, AS ALWAYS; un intended consiquences came in and changed the game plan.

I do not feel that I know all, or even most, but I'd say at 6ish years or research since DAY ONE of "waking up" and starting to question things I'm pretty "up to speed" currently,, gives me great hope for how much faster it will be NOW; for the people just joining us... thats why I support forums like this,, news aggrigation only helps those who follow in our foot steps :)

I can't imagine what this type of thing was like 20 years ago... much respect :)

gripreaper
25th January 2012, 23:55
I see Kerry is promoting Sean David Morton's new book.

I read it. I thought was excellent and very informative. He goes deeply into Montauk, Dulce and Area 51, and touches on a depth of the black op's I have not seen collated anywhere else.

modwiz
25th January 2012, 23:59
I see Kerry is promoting Sean David Morton's new book.

I read it. I thought was excellent and very informative. He goes deeply into Montauk, Dulce and Area 51, and touches on a depth of the black op's I have not seen collated anywhere else.

Oh yes, the important and liberating information of our times. Glad you feel your money was well spent.

sdafnom
26th January 2012, 00:05
01:38:40 The last seven moves on the chess game...
I have the feeling that the "uphold" of the rules of the game is taken for granted here. (in order for the specific result / conclusion to be drawn) .
What if the rules can be bend or broken on a technicality / interference?
Any thoughts?

Stavros

gripreaper
26th January 2012, 00:06
Oh yes, the important and liberating information of our times.

I understand Sean's mannerisms, ego, and personality don't sit right with some people, but I don't understand what you mean by your statement. I did not say his book held the holy grail of important and liberating info, I just said I thought it was an excellent read. Sean is a very well read and intelligent man, and he has a big picture perspective that I find very close to complete.

Gardener
26th January 2012, 00:12
HI, Sorry I am late to this thread, I watched after a shakey interview session, and noted this point/question in particular. (Thx NA) The wave or quantum wave collapse has been discussed by the 'casiopaeans' LKJ and co since about 1994. She met her physicist husband soon after the C's suggested she research unstable gravity waves. Ark is professor of theoretical physics and mathemetician and has been working on what this might mean for a number of years. Their research leads them to suggest that this wave has an oncoming effect, culminating between 2014-2017, so riding this wave should assist in an awakening consciousness providing we work at it. (Plenty opportunity to work on it). Towards the end there could be this 'bump' as discussed by BW which could act as a major catalyst for all mankind, I guess there are many not ready to speculate yet.

I don't know why there is a difference in the expected arrival of this wave, maybe the person interacting with the looking glass could have a skewed perspective, or, perhaps it is by degrees of intensity, the response of human kind as we go along. At some point I imagine a critical mass of awakened consciousness could exponentially accelerate the effects of the wave.

I have a lot of HOPE, and 'hope' I live long enough to see/feel it. The old archetypes of myth and legend are surfacing in us all, in everyday life. What has been hidden and occult for so long is being exposed literally, coming apart, and breaking down.

g


I asked this question =)))

QUESTION: DOES DEC 21 2012 HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH THE GALACTIC SUPERWAVE SPOKE OF BY DR. PAUL LAVIOLETTE AND PANE ANDOVE?? WHAT ELSE COULD CREATE A MERGING OF TIMELINES LIKE THAT?

And both david and bill confirmed WAHOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

modwiz
26th January 2012, 00:12
Oh yes, the important and liberating information of our times.

I understand Sean's mannerisms, ego, and personality don't sit right with some people, but I don't understand what you mean by your statement. I did not say his book held the holy grail of important and liberating info, I just said I thought it was an excellent read. Sean is a very well read and intelligent man, and he has a big picture perspective that I find very close to complete.

There must be a language difficulty between us. I will drop it.

gripreaper
26th January 2012, 00:21
There must be a language difficulty between us. I will drop it.

I think it's quite clear. You don't like Sean Morton, although you have not said you have read any of his books or writings, and I do like Sean Morton's writings, books and radio show.

What I did not understand is how you could make a statement, either sincerely or with sarcasm, that his writings are the important and liberating information of our times if you have not read his book.

jaybee
26th January 2012, 00:22
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I'm not at all sure that I buy the either/or timeline thing.

IS the future ours to see?

All the possibilities are being created in the here and now...

I do believe that we are participating in creating 'the future'....a future of endless possibilities.

But the paradox is that if we can access the past because it's already happened...then our own future can re-visit us....so it's time travel but not in the '''''the future is set''''' kind of way. (IMO)

One of the parts of the interview that struck me was when David was talking about water being integral to the 'Looking Glass' and it being used, somehow with the pineal gland and the individual....(will have to go and check this bit out)


que sera sera

:becky:


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Phoenix1304
26th January 2012, 00:22
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Re Bill Wood, his report of his seeing one stored Looking Glass device (http://projectcamelot.org/project_looking_glass.html) (with its rings folded) came across as highly credible. He never saw it in operation. Always beware of a whistleblower who claims to know everything. Someone who freely admits that he does not know certain things (or cannot answer certain questions) is an indicator of authenticity for me.

Hello Bill, thanks for taking part in this discussion, in this vid and lending (as ever) your soothing and grounded energy. This interview was fantastic (exactly what I wished for after I watched the first one!). Well done Kerry for mastering the technology!

There were two points where I felt uneasy. One, BW's reaction to DW's mention of the RFID chip that he apparently had had inserted, DW said it was discussed in the first interview, but was I the only one to miss that? I don't remember mention of it at all. His reaction was startling. He didn't want to go there clearly and that intrigued me and now I want to know more about it.

Secondly, this section you mention in the quote, I felt quite uncomfortable, as though BW was squirming. I felt (for the first time) that he was lying. He said at one point, almost flustered by both Kerry and David's probing questions about the appearance of the device, that it was 'covered', but actually he had already described the metal and the rings. Why didn't he just say it was covered in the first place and spare himself the description? It didn't add up, so I'm surprised to see you say it was 'credible'. I agree it is credible that he didn't use the thing, only studied the data about it. Fair enough. The pregnant pause while he decided how tall it was, was excruciating. Something did not feel right to me about the whole sequence.

Having said that, I have, so far, felt this was an honest, courageous young man and I do trust him. But in these times, I think we cannot overlook our own intuition when it picks something like this up. It may be quite innocent and he had, perhaps, previously exaggerated his knowledge of the subject to Kerry and lived to regret that in this interview. These times are going to be so difficult for anyone not accustomed to 100% honesty.

I also felt a few moments of jockeying egos between Kerry & David, I don't know if anyone else noticed, but really guys we need to get beyond that stuff, everyone will get all the applause and recognition appropriate to their service, no one needs to prove anything or be proprietary about this information and egos, being the tricksters they are, need to be vigilantly monitored and kept in check.

I don't believe anyone knows it all, so I am very cautious when listening to anyone that says they do (Ashayana Dean, George Kavasilas for e.g. especially when they bludgeon you with collossal amounts of unprovable information). Ultimately, there are levels of understanding that are simply beyond words, so I assume that all 'higher' intelligence is telepathic and empathic and this is maybe what we are heading towards, the experience of Unity Consciousness where it is impossible to lie or harm anything. It's a joy to contemplate what humanity might achieve from such a state.

What a brilliant week at Avalon. I've been loving it! Thank you so much to everyone involved for putting it together and giving us so much to think about.

Much love to All.

Revere
26th January 2012, 00:23
Carmody...
This is a akin to the spiritual warrior. Each with the same overall desire and direction regarding finality but each with an individual task tied to who they are.

This is where our problem regarding cohesive action in these areas of human evolution vs human group control --are coming from.

Realization of this critical issue as a point that needs be addressed in all thoughts on such matters --is just about the only way you'll ever get to the point where some cohesive (mass) act may take place, an act that is outside of being based on the hindbrain (herd instinct and deepest fight or flight/etc driving forces)...which is where (the driving force behind) most of our mass acts take place right now.

Is it not possible that the ENERGY/INFORMATION FIELD that we live in or may soon live will make your stated conundrum clear at such a base level that we see the path and the benefits that our collective consciousness could lead us too? Also, could it not enlighten our knowledge to the level of realization of the benefit of using our free will in responsible service to each other out of selfless love as a benefit to others as well to ourselves? It may be like or as obvious to us as it is to a fish to school. We are not Gods but we are made in His Image. We are energy living in an energy field which may create our perception of consciousness (and vise versa) and our connectedness while holding all the knowledge that is or has been. It may be our job to "plug in" with our Creator as we create through our energy field. Could this symbiotic field be what supplies our consciousness and our connectedness at all our potential levels of being until we truly commune with GOD?

Peace,
“R”

TargeT
26th January 2012, 00:26
There must be a language difficulty between us. I will drop it.

I think it's quite clear. You don't like Sean Morton, although you have not said you have read any of his books or writings, and I do like Sean Morton's writings, books and radio show.

What I did not understand is how you could make a statement, either sincerely or with sarcasm, that his writings are the important and liberating information of our times if you have not read his book.

You may be too engauged to realise this currently, this is a failing of the internet, you inferred sarcasm, there may or may not have been sarcasm, since there is no tone or body language to reference its easy to completely mangle short communications via text.

This is most likely the case here, MOD has the right tact in the situation :)

Kyra
26th January 2012, 00:36
What I find interesting, is that some of us have been spiritual journeyer's for 20 to 30 years, and I've noticed that those awakening now are getting up to speed in a couple of years, what took us 25 to 30 years.

So there is a cumulative effect and an acceleration. I see it all around me.

The difference is in the application.

We were trained by convention to acquire knowledge, but few seemed to apply the ideas to their own path.

Indeed, this is how we have been manipulated, as access to truth info was severely restricted, we were held prisoner in myth and disinfo, and relatively few could penetrate the veil to get a pure stream of intelligence from Higher Mind.

Now the availability to move beyond knowledge (information acquired externally) into Knowingness (direct access to Universal Mind) is the Big Difference.

This portal is open wide for anyone who seeks it with a pure heart, as Gregg Braden explains.

I find the practices discussed in the book Zero Limits (http://www.amazon.com/Zero-Limits-Secret-Hawaiian-System/dp/0470101474) have allowed me to open my mind beyond filters and programs and enter zero point awareness easily and effortlessly.

These are the Ancient Huna teachings--so remarkably simple that I believe most do not realize the power they have in rebooting the human mind back to zero where it can contact Source energy free of interference.

The human intellect will toss this book aside as having nothing at all for them. So unless you are ready for massive internal change (rewriting your DNA), this book is not for you, and just reading it will do nothing for you.

The simple practices in the book erase all programs that are causing interference with one's desired outcome and stated purpose.

This is a similar activity as in reclaiming a silicon chip: to erase all data on the chip, simply expose it to ultraviolet light.

Humans are afraid of letting go of their programs so they resist doing this, feeling that this would erase identity.

In truth, what happens when actually utilizing the practices is a major upgrade with expanded bandwidth, hyperkinetic sensory awareness, and the ability to live in the present without constantly projecting the past experiences into each Now moment.

By attaining zero point, one can access pure creativity and see potential outcomes from beyond duality, and the optimum path to attain these outcomes.

This, of course, is only for those interested in activating one's higher abilities, who have been seeking an easy and relatively effortless way to do this.

etm567
26th January 2012, 01:02
Full interview here ...

http://www.livestream.com/projectcamelotlive/video?clipId=pla_8de3e653-fe5b-4016-8ea4-c34a3bc066ee

Many thanks to Kerry, Bill, Bill and David ...

viking

Why does it say it's 6 hours long? It wasn't, was it? I listened to just about all of it, I thought, but then I turned it off at what I thought was the end. It wasn't>

Phoenix1304
26th January 2012, 01:30
What I find interesting, is that some of us have been spiritual journeyer's for 20 to 30 years, and I've noticed that those awakening now are getting up to speed in a couple of years, what took us 25 to 30 years.

So there is a cumulative effect and an acceleration. I see it all around me.

The difference is in the application.

We were trained by convention to acquire knowledge, but few seemed to apply the ideas to their own path.

Indeed, this is how we have been manipulated, as access to truth info was severely restricted, we were held prisoner in myth and disinfo, and relatively few could penetrate the veil to get a pure stream of intelligence from Higher Mind.

Now the availability to move beyond knowledge (information acquired externally) into Knowingness (direct access to Universal Mind) is the Big Difference.

This portal is open wide for anyone who seeks it with a pure heart, as Gregg Braden explains.

I find the practices discussed in the book Zero Limits (http://www.amazon.com/Zero-Limits-Secret-Hawaiian-System/dp/0470101474) have allowed me to open my mind beyond filters and programs and enter zero point awareness easily and effortlessly.

These are the Ancient Huna teachings--so remarkably simple that I believe most do not realize the power they have in rebooting the human mind back to zero where it can contact Source energy free of interference.

The human intellect will toss this book aside as having nothing at all for them. So unless you are ready for massive internal change (rewriting your DNA), this book is not for you, and just reading it will do nothing for you.

The simple practices in the book erase all programs that are causing interference with one's desired outcome and stated purpose.

This is a similar activity as in reclaiming a silicon chip: to erase all data on the chip, simply expose it to ultraviolet light.

Humans are afraid of letting go of their programs so they resist doing this, feeling that this would erase identity.

In truth, what happens when actually utilizing the practices is a major upgrade with expanded bandwidth, hyperkinetic sensory awareness, and the ability to live in the present without constantly projecting the past experiences into each Now moment.

By attaining zero point, one can access pure creativity and see potential outcomes from beyond duality, and the optimum path to attain these outcomes.

This, of course, is only for those interested in activating one's higher abilities, who have been seeking an easy and relatively effortless way to do this.

I'll endorse that! The Ho'oponopono, I've been practising it for a few years. I'm no master but it works. The beauty of it is, just practising it will teach you the truth, all intellectualising and judgements fall away and whatever difficult 'reality' I'm experiencing changes for the better.

JoshERTW
26th January 2012, 01:35
Like the movie They LIVE, the transmitter is knocked out and everyone is suddenly awake.

Excellent movie, although a bit old and cheesy, illustrates how we are controlled.


I'm going to seek out and watch this movie tonight. Awesome. They should totally remake it with David Icke as a producer.

Paul
26th January 2012, 01:41
... and your audio was great! Well done :)
The audio quality for the entire show was great - thanks seeingterra!

jp11
26th January 2012, 02:24
jaybee, I'm only up to pg 4 so someone else may have already answered your question
David Wilcock looked extremely tired with dark rings around his eyes. I feel worried for him and hope he can find time to have some proper relaxation.

David has what he called a birthmark or something he's had all his life, the area of skin under his eyes is darker than the rest of his facial skin. When he makes a public appearance, he uses some sort of makeup to cover it up. I guess he didn't feel it was necessary last night.

Huma
26th January 2012, 02:31
Not sure if this has been shared yet, but this man is listed as a sex offender, I haven't had time to go through the whole thread, but I'll just share this, I don't really have an opinion on this yet. http://www.offendex.com/directory/UT/B/WILLIAM_NEWEL_BROCKBRADER_298689

And for those of you who believe even an ounce of the gigantic load of nonsense that is dan burisch. Please give this your purview. http://www.ufowatchdog.com/burischdirtbag.htm

bennycog
26th January 2012, 02:55
Not sure if this has been shared yet, I haven't had time to go through the whole thread, but I'll just share this, I don't really have an opinion on this yet. http://www.offendex.com/directory/UT/B/WILLIAM_NEWEL_BROCKBRADER_298689

there are comments at the bottom but they are talking about a few different people..

Mandala
26th January 2012, 03:16
I haven't posted in quite a while. I just finished the entire video, but I haven't read the entire 9 pages of posting here, which I will in the future. I wish Bill Ryan had been given more time, he always asks insightful and enlightening questions.

It was easy to see that Bill Wood and David had bonded over similar views. They decided not to speak of them possibly due to the fact they did not want the major game players to know. We have free will and we are the Wild Card in this whole scenario. Information is indeed power in this game.

For any new people that have not read the Dan Burisch material or if you have not seen the interviews, I urge you to do so. The story of the timelines was a "wild ride". If I remember correctly, #2 ended up like a vision of the movie 2012. Dan confirmed to the best of his ability that we were on timeline #1.

Timeline #1 is still being written as we speak. No one knows what will happen because the script in incomplete. Free Will is the the mojor contributor to the story. We have the power. They don't want us to know this, because we create. Picture what you want the world to be, get away from doom and gloom. Write your script.


Sincerely, Mandala

Ultima Thule
26th January 2012, 04:35
Interestingly it is in the news in here that Navy Seal team 6 has just completed a successful mission, with Obama praising them. The story also mentions that the actual persons are not the same as in Osama-mission. The whole story surfacing would line in neatly with this Bill Wood-thing going down - somebody wanting to emphasize the existence of team 6, mentioning in small print that the persons are not the same. Perhaps because they were killed?
UT

bennycog
26th January 2012, 05:26
Interestingly it is in the news in here that Navy Seal team 6 has just completed a successful mission, with Obama praising them. The story also mentions that the actual persons are not the same as in Osama-mission. The whole story surfacing would line in neatly with this Bill Wood-thing going down - somebody wanting to emphasize the existence of team 6, mentioning in small print that the persons are not the same. Perhaps because they were killed?
UT

yes i noticed that story too... what timing..

http://www.lohud.com/article/20120125/NEWS/301250064/SEAL-Team-6-does-again-time-rescuing-hostages

STONY POINT — A 29-year-old man barricaded in his home and in an armed standoff with a police SWAT team emerged carrying a Bible and what appeared to be a firearm.

It turned out to be a pellet gun, which Anthony Capicotto — who has bipolar disorder and was off his medication, his family said — promptly dropped, bringing the three-hour standoff to a safe conclusion early this morning.

“This could have had a different outcome,” Stony Point Police Lt. Keith Williams said. “The guys did an outstanding job and used a lot of restraint.”

While police do not know what sparked Capicotto’s suicidal behavior, his sister, Kristina, told The Journal News that “anything could set him off” and that “he thinks the world is coming to an end in 2012.”

Authorities responded to the Fonda Drive home about 11:40 p.m. Tuesday after a Westfield, N.J. woman — an apparent friend of Copicotto’s — alerted the Rockland County Sheriff’s Office to cryptic messages posted on one of his social networking profiles, Williams said.

“We dispatched officers over to the scene,” Williams said. “We did gather some intelligence. We did determine that Mr. Anthony Copicotto was in possession of weapons.”

NternalArchitect
26th January 2012, 05:37
"Seeing all the pieces falling together and realizing, 'My god, this is real, this is actually going to happen. And I see not all of it, but I get a pretty good idea of what this year is going to be like and it is absolutely amazing." David's closing statement.. let's believe in this HOPE! Why be so cynical about this interview? Use it and take it for what we can! Why not believe??

Hervé
26th January 2012, 07:58
Got that uneasy feeling again from that terrible thought that keeps nagging at me…

First the data I am struggling with and let’s start with Carmody’s summary:



DEC 2012...
[...]

Polarity shift, timeline shift, reality shift, same same.

Simple crossing of the center point (David is speaking of 'the bump' right now) same polarity or shift of 'going into the light'.

[…]



Running the Carmodese through my GiggleTranslate and it basically means that consciousnesses are all of a sudden operating out of bodies…

That leaves the question of whether or not there are any bodies alive left to operate around and from?

Then, the “going into the light” and “shower of love” thingy leaves me as uncomfortable as any abductee who’s gone through past these electronic shafts of “love” light and the veils/shields of post-hypnotic commands… (see “The Programming of a Planet (http://www.lunahelia.com/docs/cash.zip)” and “Eye of Ra (http://www.lunahelia.com/docs/cash2.zip)” zip files).


Next one is this thing: all these bezillions of years where the most intelligent, perceptive, psychic, clairvoyant, wizard, sorcerer and witch beings have been fooled over and over, again and again without ever managing to thwart the scheme.

With which comes the third one:

What’s the scheme?

David Icke refers to it as “Problem-Reaction-Solution” and Alex Collier calls it the “Orion Model.”

For those not familiar with the “Orion Model,” check it here and start around 23mn into the interview:

http://www.blogtalkradio.com/unicus/2011/10/28/the-unicus-radio-hour (http://www.blogtalkradio.com/unicus/2011/10/28/the-unicus-radio-hour) ***

Then… apply that very model to what both Alex and Robert are saying with David Icke’s “Problem-Reaction-Solution” in mind and one ends up with the most toxic, poisonous piece of info one could get into!

Why?

When one applies the model to the “White Hats,” the “saviors” that are supposed to get us rid of the (human) controllers, one realizes that these “White Hats” are of a darker black hue than the blackest of “Black Hats.”

See?

Same scheme as was used with the USA and Russia to generate a “Cold War” while both were actually conniving and aggregating “satellite” countries either with tanks, economic or black-ops hit-men.

Because… what’s the “solution” to the problem of these “bad” ETs and their illuminati consorts?

… get into agreement with the “good” ETs, sign the papers on the dotted line… deal!

Now Earth can be legally monitored and controlled beyond any recourse except another of these wars in the sky of Ancient India fame.

Hence, how does one recognizes an actual “good” ET? I have no answer to that.

With all this, I can’t help but conclude that, what’s scheduled under one form or another, is a massive “soul harvesting” where individuals have no clue of what’s happening and in dire need of a traffic cop like Carmody took on the role of in the midst of the Benda Ace tsunami.

Of course, the trouble with that, is that it is “scheduled”… so much for actual freewill.


Other than that, along with Bill Ryan, I too am very interested in finding out what’s the info/data that convinced the military from all over the world into secretly go underground literally as well as with black budgets and operations, since their activities is known to any of the ETs but not to the general humanoid population.




*** EDIT:

Since this was posted, Robert Stanley yanked off his site all of his Alex Collier's interviews and quit the UFO investigations he has been at for decades... go figure.

Thanks to watchZIETGEISTnow, these interviews can be found here:




http://kiwi6.com/file/f8s5019nne = Alex Collier The-unicus-radio-hour October 28 Of 2011.mp3

http://kiwi6.com/file/bx34p9i70a = Alex Collier The-unicus-radio-hour December 9 Of 2011.mp3
http://kiwi6.com/file/gge8ucx5m5 = Alex Collier The-unicus-radio-hour January 6 Of 2012.mp3


Click on "Download MP3"

ENJOY~

araucaria
26th January 2012, 08:09
On the subject of zombie-like people who don't look up to speed, Dolores Cannon has an interesting take in The Convoluted Universe Vol IV: the Back Drop People (p.560):


They are just here to be part of the backdrop (..) go from one star system to the next and they are used as a backdrop (...) for you to learn, to stay on your path, you have to have these other people in your way, living beside you, but you're here for a lesson and they're here for a backdrop (...) they're just here as energy to help us with our lessons, to create chaos or to work or just to live.

Tony
26th January 2012, 08:44
Can anyone shed any light on this? (they have the video of the interview).



Sir,

I greatly appreciate your interest in upholding the honor of the US Navy SEAL Teams, and your search for the TRUTH. Before answering your questions I must make clear that I am a private individual, not affiliated with the US Dept. of Defense or any other government organization. My efforts to expose SEAL imposters are performed as a service to the public, and in honor of my fallen SEAL Teammates… men who truly earned the right to the title “US NAVY SEAL” but who are no longer able to stand forward in defense of their honor, their reputations, and their TEAMs.



If the name you provided is spelled correctly, I do NOT find a listing in the SEAL Database (SEAL Teams and predecessor units from 1943 to the Present Day) for anyone named WILLIAM NEWEL BROCKBRADER AKA BILL WOOD AKA BILL BROCK. I have also examined possible alternate spellings, and names with similar pronunciations without finding any that appear to be applicable.



Unless he has undertaken the unlikely action of a legal name change (an action for which there would be evidence in the form of court documentation) since his claimed participation in SEAL training, and based upon the information you have provided, I can state conclusively that WILLIAM NEWEL BROCKBRADER has NEVER COMPLETED SEAL training, and he is not now, nor was he ever a Navy SEAL, a Navy UDT “Frogman”, a member of any Naval Combat Demolition Unit (NCDU), or a member of the Naval Amphibious Scouts & Raiders (S&R).



Many SEAL imposters when confronted with the information I have provided will resort to claiming that their records are sealed, burned or their SEAL Operations were Classified and that there are no official records of them.

Before any classified operations may be undertaken as a SEAL Operator, a man must first successfully complete the Basic Underwater Demolition/SEAL (BUD/S) Training program and then the follow-on secondary training program. The names of all those who successfully graduate from that training program sequence are compiled in the SEAL database. Later participation in classified operations has "no impact" on whether or not a person is listed as a graduate of the training program.



There are records of every man who has qualified for the title of “SEAL”; there have been and will continue to be secret missions, but there are NO secret SEALs.



Once again I must stress that although I am a US Navy veteran, and a former SEAL, I am a civilian performing in an entirely unofficial role. I recommend that you obtain a formal/official US NAVY statement regarding Mr. WILLIAM NEWEL BROCKBRADER's claimed SEAL credentials. To do so you may contact the PUBLIC AFFAIRS OFFICE at the NAVAL SPECIAL WARFARE COMMAND in San Diego by calling (619) 522-2822, or you may contact the FOIA COORDINATOR at the NAVAL SPECIAL WARFARE COMMAND in San Diego, California, and submit a formal FREEDOM OF INFORMATION ACT inquiry in writing addressed to:



Commander

Naval Special Warfare Command

FOIA Coordinator

2000 Trident Way

San Diego, CA 92155



Thank you again for your concern in this matter, and for your assistance in upholding the honor of the US Navy SEAL Teams. If I can be of any further assistance to you in this matter, please contact me at your convenience.



Respectfully, Don Shipley BUD/S 131, SEAL Team ONE, SEAL Team TWO.
Owner http://www.extremesealexperience.com/

HaveBlue
26th January 2012, 09:55
Album: Iron Maiden. Fear Of The Dark
Year: 1992
Title: Afraid To Shoot Strangers

Lying awake at night I wipe the sweat
from my brow
But it's not the fear 'cos
I'd rather go now

Trying to visualize the horrors that
will lay ahead
The desert sand mound a burial ground

When it comes to the time
Are we partners in crime?
When it comes to the time
We'll be ready to die-

God let us go now and finish what's
to be done
Thy Kingdom Come
Thy shall be done... on earth

Trying to justify to ourselves the
reasons to go
Should we live and let live
Forget or forgive

But how can we let them go on this way?
The reign of terror corruption must end
And we know deep down there's
no other way
No trust, no reasoning, no more to say

Afraid to shoot strangers
Afraid to shoot strangers

Hervé
26th January 2012, 10:22
@ araucaria:

The skull-dwelling-zombies I am talking about and described in "The Programming of a Planet (http://www.lunahelia.com/docs/cash.zip)" are not just "backdrop" robots, they are the manufactured products of the programming of some ETs who pose as "good" ETs in very much the same way the MKultra program is described as being/having been implemented on unsuspecting individuals.

"Lessons" and "karma" are also part of that programming as a handy explanation for perpetual re-incarnation into slavery as David Wilcock almost mentioned when he said something like : "Are we going to keep re-incarnating..." so that very few keep looking for answers or start disagreeing with the galactic/inter-galactic PTB/W.

BTW, my hat off to the indivividuals who have managed to shake those ET shackles off their back, a few of which mentioned it on this forum and elsewhere.

Nerge
26th January 2012, 10:24
Can anyone shed any light on this? (they have the video of the interview).



Sir,

I greatly appreciate your interest in upholding the honor of the US Navy SEAL Teams, and your search for the TRUTH. Before answering your questions I must make clear that I am a private individual, not affiliated with the US Dept. of Defense or any other government organization. My efforts to expose SEAL imposters are performed as a service to the public, and in honor of my fallen SEAL Teammates… men who truly earned the right to the title “US NAVY SEAL” but who are no longer able to stand forward in defense of their honor, their reputations, and their TEAMs.



If the name you provided is spelled correctly, I do NOT find a listing in the SEAL Database (SEAL Teams and predecessor units from 1943 to the Present Day) for anyone named WILLIAM NEWEL BROCKBRADER AKA BILL WOOD AKA BILL BROCK. I have also examined possible alternate spellings, and names with similar pronunciations without finding any that appear to be applicable.



Unless he has undertaken the unlikely action of a legal name change (an action for which there would be evidence in the form of court documentation) since his claimed participation in SEAL training, and based upon the information you have provided, I can state conclusively that WILLIAM NEWEL BROCKBRADER has NEVER COMPLETED SEAL training, and he is not now, nor was he ever a Navy SEAL, a Navy UDT “Frogman”, a member of any Naval Combat Demolition Unit (NCDU), or a member of the Naval Amphibious Scouts & Raiders (S&R).



Many SEAL imposters when confronted with the information I have provided will resort to claiming that their records are sealed, burned or their SEAL Operations were Classified and that there are no official records of them.

Before any classified operations may be undertaken as a SEAL Operator, a man must first successfully complete the Basic Underwater Demolition/SEAL (BUD/S) Training program and then the follow-on secondary training program. The names of all those who successfully graduate from that training program sequence are compiled in the SEAL database. Later participation in classified operations has "no impact" on whether or not a person is listed as a graduate of the training program.



There are records of every man who has qualified for the title of “SEAL”; there have been and will continue to be secret missions, but there are NO secret SEALs.



Once again I must stress that although I am a US Navy veteran, and a former SEAL, I am a civilian performing in an entirely unofficial role. I recommend that you obtain a formal/official US NAVY statement regarding Mr. WILLIAM NEWEL BROCKBRADER's claimed SEAL credentials. To do so you may contact the PUBLIC AFFAIRS OFFICE at the NAVAL SPECIAL WARFARE COMMAND in San Diego by calling (619) 522-2822, or you may contact the FOIA COORDINATOR at the NAVAL SPECIAL WARFARE COMMAND in San Diego, California, and submit a formal FREEDOM OF INFORMATION ACT inquiry in writing addressed to:



Commander

Naval Special Warfare Command

FOIA Coordinator

2000 Trident Way

San Diego, CA 92155



Thank you again for your concern in this matter, and for your assistance in upholding the honor of the US Navy SEAL Teams. If I can be of any further assistance to you in this matter, please contact me at your convenience.



Respectfully, Don Shipley BUD/S 131, SEAL Team ONE, SEAL Team TWO.
Owner http://www.extremesealexperience.com/

It's all swings and round-abouts isn't it really? :)

The guy you quoted claims imposters often say their records have been sealed or burned etc, well, that's easy enough to use as a defence but also easy to see how it could be true. I'm pretty sure you wouldn't leave easily researched records in tact for any individuals with security clearance levels above the official 'top-secret' level? Well, not unless you deliberately wanted that information to be easily found for disinfo purposes or to discredit later perhaps. (the same goes for wiping all traces of it)

While I don't know the quoted individuals credentials he does at least sound like he knows what he's talking about 'from his perspective and understanding of how things work', which is fine, however that's assuming that the small part of the picture you see is all there is and there's nothing beyond that. Perhaps many times that is true, but in this case and with topics as sensative as this I doubt it's ever that simple.

The more I hear all about this the more I'm convinced that the best way way to proceed is to just remain aware of events (from many sources) and to do our own inner work collectively to raise awareness; both inside and by taking positive tangible and practical action too, together! :)

Tony
26th January 2012, 10:44
Do you see anything wrong with double checking information?

Nerge
26th January 2012, 11:05
Do you see anything wrong with double checking information?

I don't see anything wrong with double-checking information at all and would encourage it personally.
At the same time however, I feel it's important to remain open to possibilities and that I/we may only have a small part of the overall picture (most likely).

Why drive ourselves into a dead-end of limited beliefs? History has shown countless times how little we actually know and the importance of being open to new ideas and ways of thinking which later turn many accepted beliefs upside down. :)

Meesh
26th January 2012, 11:08
[QUOTE]

As the brilliant Gregg Braden has highlighted in his stories, the mantra "Already done, already done" can change matter almost instantaneously.



YES!! I'm finding this seems to be a key element--can't change matter instantaneously yet though :biggrin:

Tony
26th January 2012, 11:17
Do you see anything wrong with double checking information?

I don't see anything wrong with double-checking information at all and would encourage it personally.
At the same time however, I feel it's important to remain open to possibilities and that I/we may only have a small part of the overall picture (most likely).

Why drive ourselves into a dead-end of limited beliefs? History has shown countless times how little we actually know and the importance of being open to new ideas and ways of thinking which later turn many accepted beliefs upside down. :)

...And look where it has got us, the blind leading the blind? The world is full of gullible people. Open to new ideas?...the Tavistock have been producing them for years!

Nerge
26th January 2012, 11:21
Do you see anything wrong with double checking information?

I don't see anything wrong with double-checking information at all and would encourage it personally.
At the same time however, I feel it's important to remain open to possibilities and that I/we may only have a small part of the overall picture (most likely).

Why drive ourselves into a dead-end of limited beliefs? History has shown countless times how little we actually know and the importance of being open to new ideas and ways of thinking which later turn many accepted beliefs upside down. :)

...And look where it has got us, the blind leading the blind? The world is full of gullible people. Open to new ideas?...the Tavistock have been producing them for years!

That's certainly one way of looking at it, but being open doesn't automatically mean gullable. :)

Tarka the Duck
26th January 2012, 11:22
Hello???!!!

Did anyone else read post 187???

Isn't there something here we need to consider???

Does anyone have any further information regarding this? Not opinions ...we need facts on this occasion. Is this the same man?

Kathie

Referee
26th January 2012, 11:44
Hello???!!!

Did anyone else read post 187???

Isn't there something here we need to consider???

Does anyone have any further information regarding this? Not opinions ...we need facts on this occasion. Is this the same man?

Kathie

This was explained in the begining of the Interview. He was a member of Seal Team 9 a classified unit. Not available to the public.

Muzz
26th January 2012, 11:49
Hi Kathie
Looking into it I found this.

There is a WILLIAM NEAL BROCKBRADER on Offendex (http://www.offendex.com/directory/UT/B/WILLIAM_NEWEL_BROCKBRADER_298689) with a picture.

Which links the name to the face.

http://www.offendex.com/fullsize/67/13/6713bfbfc63209d89cc1b7993de77f50978c597b.jpg

jaybee
26th January 2012, 11:49
Hello???!!!

Did anyone else read post 187???

Isn't there something here we need to consider???

Does anyone have any further information regarding this? Not opinions ...we need facts on this occasion. Is this the same man?

Kathie

well after seeing pie's post I did a search for Bill Brockbrader...this Muscular Development site came up...with pics....so I thought, lets see if this is 'our guy'...
BUT...out of all the contestants...Bill Brockbrader is the ONLY one who doesn't have a photo up on the site???


http://pics.musculardevelopment.com/index.php?mode=contest&eventcode=1446


Just saying.

It's no crime to be a body builder and it wouldn't matter one way or the other..but my interest was piqued because of the missing photo.

Anyway...is this supposed to be his real name then? William Newel Brockbrader?




@muzz....do you have a link?


further edit...thanks muzz


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Tarka the Duck
26th January 2012, 11:52
This was explained in the begining of the Interview. He was a member of Seal Team 9 a classified unit. Not available to the public.

So are we happy to ignore what was stated in the letter post 187?

Many SEAL imposters when confronted with the information I have provided will resort to claiming that their records are sealed, burned or their SEAL Operations were Classified and that there are no official records of them.

Before any classified operations may be undertaken as a SEAL Operator, a man must first successfully complete the Basic Underwater Demolition/SEAL (BUD/S) Training program and then the follow-on secondary training program. The names of all those who successfully graduate from that training program sequence are compiled in the SEAL database. Later participation in classified operations has "no impact" on whether or not a person is listed as a graduate of the training program.

There are records of every man who has qualified for the title of “SEAL”; there have been and will continue to be secret missions, but there are NO secret SEALs.


¤=[Post Update]=¤



Anyway...is this supposed to be his real name then? William Newel Brockbrader?
.

It would be really helpful if someone knew the answer to that question!! ;)

DarMar
26th January 2012, 11:56
First when i watched his interview with kerry my intuition told me: this guy is programmed to the bone, i wonder why he's here?
but today i watched this new interview and when i saw em all on screen there was voice: he wants to get closer to David, he want to know people.... hes so programmed

than i see posts here from pie'n'eal which would confirm part of my intuition and yet there is few song quotes like
Afraid To Shoot Strangers

heh... what do i think now? :p

but dunno i would be careful with this guy, in any second of his talk he didnt revealed actually anything what we didnt heard atleast zilions of times. Where do i get with this is he could learn all of that he talked about like a bird song.
Kerry was really trying to get something concrete but guy speaks alot of non-concrete language.
A lot of enigmas on his work on looking glass... he was intuitious guy who was brought to work on project which was closed and never meant to use again? and intuitious guy is brought to get some fresh ideas? well i dunno for you but for me it stinks on miles

his description of device and room is genious also.. a metal room? 3 rings aligned? and thats all?

it's same as Davids description but there wasnt any water... i worked on it for a week

if not all of that, lets say hes wonderful guy full of helpfullness and will .. well if he is, he didnt much shared of knowledge that we dont know about and that could be on purpose.

somehow my intuition says different. somehow it connected this guy with "strange alien irish guy" which made treat to wounded beast, and we know you dont do that.
Especially i found enlightened beings incapable of threat so all this story gets more and more mud in lake.

Muzz
26th January 2012, 11:57
@muzz....do you have a link?

link now working in previous post.

Tarka the Duck
26th January 2012, 11:59
Hi Kathie
Looking into it I found this.

There is a WILLIAM NEAL BROCKBRADER on Offendex (http://www.offendex.com/directory/UT/B/WILLIAM_NEWEL_BROCKBRADER_298689) with a picture.

Which links the name to the face.

http://www.offendex.com/fullsize/67/13/6713bfbfc63209d89cc1b7993de77f50978c597b.jpg

This is the same bloke as the one on the Camelot video...

Kathie

jaybee
26th January 2012, 12:02
jaybee, I'm only up to pg 4 so someone else may have already answered your question
David Wilcock looked extremely tired with dark rings around his eyes. I feel worried for him and hope he can find time to have some proper relaxation.

David has what he called a birthmark or something he's had all his life, the area of skin under his eyes is darker than the rest of his facial skin. When he makes a public appearance, he uses some sort of makeup to cover it up. I guess he didn't feel it was necessary last night.

thanks for that.....:thumb:

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BestLion
26th January 2012, 12:03
Hello???!!!

Did anyone else read post 187???

Isn't there something here we need to consider???

Does anyone have any further information regarding this? Not opinions ...we need facts on this occasion. Is this the same man?

Kathie
I just read it..Hnmmm I am glad people do research on X navy seals. That is a highly respectful organization, and if a man if lieing saying he was once a seal..when never was then I totally have no respect for that liar.
I read comment posted on Youtube, and many also claim he does not act military like in any way. I served 11 years in the US Army Reserves and was activated for Opp Iraqi Freedom.Thus I also do not like people who claim to be soldiers, and never were in order to promote themselves. It does discredit to the armed forces soldiers that are there and really serving. I viewed this mans mannerisms..and tried to think back to the times I worked around elite army forces like the 82nd airborne and 101st airborne guys..and he does not act in anyway like an elite solider. And that stuff NEVER leaves a person..look at Gov Ventura for example he is a real x navy seal..and compare his body language-talk-actions to this guy..and I will say many of the elite soldiers I have meet while in the army act in many ways to Ventura.
I personally think after much consideration and reading post 187 that this guy was never in the seals..and he is saying he was to gain respect and accreditation for his books which he is trying to sell.
its very sad we have scum like him impostering a respectful organization. And doing disrespect to those who worked and died in that organization.

jaybee
26th January 2012, 12:08
First when i watched his interview with kerry my intuition told me: this guy is programmed to the bone, i wonder why he's here?
but today i watched this new interview and when i saw em all on screen there was voice:] he wants to get closer to David, he want to know people.... hes so programmed
.

.....now I'm worried for David again..... :(


I really want David to enjoy this year and not exhaust himself...or be 'got at'

BestLion
26th January 2012, 12:12
Edit..I'm looking into this guy!

jaybee
26th January 2012, 12:18
It would be really helpful if someone knew the answer to that question!! ;)


http://www.offendex.com/directory/UT/B/WILLIAM_NEWEL_BROCKBRADER_298689


WILLIAM NEWEL BROCKBRADER
Alias(es): WILLIAM NEAL BROCKBRADER; WILLIAM NEWELL BROCKBRADER; WILLIAM NEWGY BROCKRADER;


looks like it IS his name...??


edit...thanks to Muzz for link


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Tarka the Duck
26th January 2012, 12:20
Another letter concerning Bill:



Sir,

You are the second person in the last 24 hours to take note of this man’s bogus claims. Thank you for the entertaining video link. http://projectcamelotproductions.com/interviews/bill_wood/bill_wood.html Mr. WOOD has a scheduled “live broadcast” within the next two weeks.

 Mr. WILLIAM “BILL” WOOD is not now and never has been a US Navy SEAL.

 There has never been a “SEAL Team 9”.

Mr. WOOD’s bizarre claims of “targeting Tomahawk missiles on a monthly basis taking out targets that were increasingly “soft”… involving deaths of hundreds of innocent civilians…” is absolutely ludicrous. His admissions to participating in such actions – if they were true – would subject him to judicial action as a war criminal.

There’s no “get out of jail free” card in real life, no matter what the Hollywood movies tell you. Just over a year ago there were three SEALs brought to military trial because a prisoner under their care purposely banged his head/face against a wall, causing a minor injury, which he then claimed was the result of mistreatment at the hands of his SEAL captors. The man had a bloody lip but was otherwise uninjured… and yet three SEALs were taken to court over the matter. All three SEALs were eventually acquitted, but there was a huge public outcry and a tremendous amount of media attention.

…and yet this clown wants us to believe that he’s been responsible for the “deaths of hundreds of innocent civilians”, but he’s still on the streets, and he’s now offering his government-trained ‘psi power’ visions of the future of 2012 to those who send him an email?

 If this idiot ever encountered a real Navy SEAL face to face, he’d wet his pants!

 Of course I must note that although I am a US Navy veteran, and a former SEAL, I am a civilian performing in an entirely unofficial role. I strongly recommend that you, or anyone interested in Mr. WOOD’s absurdly-claimed SEAL credentials, should obtain a formal/official US NAVY statement on the matter. To do so you may contact the PUBLIC AFFAIRS OFFICE at the NAVAL SPECIAL WARFARE COMMAND in San Diego by calling (619) 522-2822, or you may contact the FOIA COORDINATOR at the NAVAL SPECIAL WARFARE COMMAND in San Diego, California, and submit a formal FREEDOM OF INFORMATION ACT inquiry in writing addressed to:

Commander

Naval Special Warfare Command

FOIA Coordinator

2000 Trident Way

San Diego, CA 92155

Respectfully,

Steve Robinson

RM2(SEAL) USN 1970-1978

SEAL Team ONE

Inshore Undersea Warfare Group ONE

Defense Analyst – Soviet Threat specialization 1981-1993

UDT-SEAL Association - Member

POW Network Board of Directors

Naval Special Warfare Archives - SOF Analyst/Contributing Journalist

Disabled American Veterans - Life Member

FORMER Special Investigator - SEAL Authentication Team

CyberSEALs.org - Webmaster

Author - "NO GUTS, NO GLORY - Unmasking Navy SEAL Imposters"

¤=[Post Update]=¤


Edit..I'm looking into this guy!

Me tooooo...;)

BestLion
26th January 2012, 12:23
Thanks Tara the Duck, this should tell PC to do a little research before they interview people. This man and all he says should be now discredited as lies. For he himself is lieing about being a X navy seal. he never was in that..and thus all he says about his 'experiences' is nothing more then made up!
This should also go back to the thread of being a Skeptic. He is a prime example why we should evaluate, and research before we buy into anything anyone says.

christian
26th January 2012, 12:28
This was explained in the begining of the Interview. He was a member of Seal Team 9 a classified unit. Not available to the public.

So are we happy to ignore what was stated in the letter post 187?

Whether his testimony is genuine or not, I'd not expect his involvement in any SEAL team or the Tomahawk shootings on civilians to be confirmed by the military. The letter says "there are no secret SEAL teams". Do you believe this? The other letter you posted says "and yet this clown wants us to believe that he’s been responsible for the “deaths of hundreds of innocent civilians”, but he’s still on the streets" - war criminals much higher up in government killed much more and are still not in prison.

Making official inquiries is a dead end in this case, this is like ringing up the White House to ask for information about a covert eugenics program.

Tarka the Duck
26th January 2012, 12:29
Hello BL

It's perfectly possible that the info I have found out isn't accurate, or I have the wrong man (although the mug shot is a bit of a giveaway...!) but at the moment, it isn't looking good.
But I find it hard to believe that someone could go in front of a camera and tell untruths, knowing they could be found out by anyone who does a little basic research...that's why I keep thinking I could be wrong!
Maybe someone can come up with something to disprove all this....

Kathie

BestLion
26th January 2012, 12:34
Not sure of the mug shot..The date it was posted was yesterday..Thus someone could have cut and pasted this to that sex offender site. it seems fishy to me. So I will pass on the 'sex offender' as not verifiable enough.
But the navy Seal stuff..I just personally from viewing this man can NOT link him to an elite military unit. His body language, mannerism, talk, actions are not of a man who spent years in an elite force. Actually his body language doesn't he spell that he was X military non the less X navt elite seal...thus I do agree with you..the case against him doesn't look good.

ponda
26th January 2012, 12:35
I'm sure that you could find official documents that state that there were weapons of mass destruction in Iraq.In fact these 'official' documents mean whatever 'they' want them to mean

apokalypse
26th January 2012, 12:36
better ask Conspiracy Jesse Ventura to investigate on Bill Wood who is also former seal and got resources to do it...i trust this man or any guys than ask some Government department for answer on the guy who work at high level top secret like Area 51? UFO? ...ect. you got to be kidding yourself, as if they say yes. I'm saying this doesn't mean i believe he's real Seal...i just suck the information and keep on the side.

Muzz
26th January 2012, 12:42
@ Bestlion

So after 11 minutes of


Edit..I'm looking into this guy!

you are now destroying him.


Thanks Tara the Duck, this should tell PC to do a little research before they interview people. This man and all he says should be now discredited as lies. For he himself is lieing about being a X navy seal. he never was in that..and thus all he says about his 'experiences' is nothing more then made up!
This should also go back to the thread of being a Skeptic. He is a prime example why we should evaluate, and research before we buy into anything anyone says.

I commend your efforts to investigate but can an I advice more caution on convicting this guy just yet. As we all know ther are many levels of deception.

With respect.

BestLion
26th January 2012, 12:46
I commend your efforts to investigate but can an I advice more caution on convicting this guy just yet. As we all know ther are many levels of deception.
I'm not convicting him 'yet' I did say I am weary on the sex offender stuff..that looks like a hoax. But I do have serious questions on the guys claim of being a navy seal.

ponda
26th January 2012, 12:49
The legal age for consensual sex is about 16 years of age worldwide.Intimate relations between people of this age group is not uncommon.It is also not uncommon for the male to be several years older than the female when intimate relations take place.It is also not uncommon for the female to be more sexually mature than a male of similar age.The most probable initiator of intimate relations between younger aged people is going to be lust and not love.

Here is a link with Worldwide Consensual Ages of Consent: http://www.avert.org/age-of-consent.htm

jaybee
26th January 2012, 12:50
I commend your efforts to investigate but can an I advice more caution on convicting this guy just yet. As we all know ther are many levels of deception.
I'm not convicting him 'yet' I did say I am weary on the sex offender stuff..that looks like a hoax. But I do have serious questions on the guys claim of being a navy seal.

he has said himself that he is on a sex offender register....then went on about why.

Tony
26th January 2012, 12:54
The point is, does it really matter about UFOs, Jump rooms, Yellow cubes, Mars, buildings on the Moon, Reptilians, Shape-shifter? There must be all sorts of weird stuff in the universe, which we are never going to know about... or remember. You are never going to get to play with them!!!
They are fancy toys for the wealthy.

What is important is what 'they' are doing on the ground, here in your towns.

The ancient masters achieved enlightenment without these playthings.

If you chase after this stuff, you will just like a mouse in a maze...running in circles...to someone else's tune. It is all, ALL, about consciousness! Either you are in control of it, or someone else is.

If you say the word Gullible fast enough, you will hear the word ORANGE.

BestLion
26th January 2012, 12:54
he has said himself that he is on a sex offender register....then went on about why.
Well I didnt listen to the entire interview..alot of what he said just inst interesting to me ....And I gave him the benefit of the doubt on the sex offender stuff. But now that also seems to be not a hoax but real...and his name then isnt Bill Wood.
Man Ive had enough of this guy..I have better things to view then some sex offender-imposter navy seal..moving on...

Muzz
26th January 2012, 13:01
The issue here is finding out if he is who he says he is. The offender info is just a means to that end.

In the video Kerry says that she has seen his documentation. Which could be faked maybe.

Can anyone verify if it is true that all navy seals identity is public record? I might be wrong but that doesnt sound like good policy for obvious security reasons.

If he is legit would there be any trace of who he was or what he did?

Tarka the Duck
26th January 2012, 13:02
Whether his testimony is genuine or not, I'd not expect his involvement in any SEAL team or the Tomahawk shootings on civilians to be confirmed by the military. The letter says "there are no secret SEAL teams". Do you believe this? The other letter you posted says "and yet this clown wants us to believe that he’s been responsible for the “deaths of hundreds of innocent civilians”, but he’s still on the streets" - war criminals much higher up in government killed much more and are still not in prison.

The letter in post 187 says that, even if a person is later "unlisted" because of being involved in covert operations, there would be a record of their earlier training.

And the fact that, as we all know, war criminals are still walking the street free as daisies isn't really the point here.

I suppose we are all selective in what we "choose" to believe...if it all adds up for you, then go for it.
For some of us, it seems thwt a bit more info is needed before we reach a level of satisfaction.

I think I remember Kerry saying that she had his SEAL record there in front of her at the beginning of the interview and was obviously satisfied with it. I wonder if she would be able to join in here?

Kathie

christian
26th January 2012, 13:14
Whether his testimony is genuine or not, I'd not expect his involvement in any SEAL team or the Tomahawk shootings on civilians to be confirmed by the military. The letter says "there are no secret SEAL teams". Do you believe this? The other letter you posted says "and yet this clown wants us to believe that he’s been responsible for the “deaths of hundreds of innocent civilians”, but he’s still on the streets" - war criminals much higher up in government killed much more and are still not in prison.

The letter in post 187 says that, even if a person is later "unlisted" because of being involved in covert operations, there would be a record of their earlier training.

The guy who wrote the letter either knowingly or unknowingly is acting as a gatekeeper using plausible deniability (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plausible_deniability).

In a perfect world those records referred to in the letter would surely be perfectly accurate.

Gardener
26th January 2012, 13:15
I think it is important to remember that a military identity can be sanitised/disappeared if it suits their intention of character assasination. Kerry has seen his papers, would she know if they were counterfeit? The name thing again can be rearranged, just to cover the real identity.

I am not invested either way, right now anything is possible. Its too important to ignore but not important enough to waste a great deal of time debating. They would love you to bark up a lot of wrong trees, smoke and mirrors, obfuscation, distraction. Pending file for me on this one. Stay in your own power, believing a lie drains that power.

I still think that the alleged looking glass technology has been used for mal intent and is therefore skewed.

Tony
26th January 2012, 13:28
We all need more courage, to see what is going on!

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Ixopoborn
26th January 2012, 13:40
I liked the testimony, attitude and general demeanour of Bill Wood. Intuitively, I think he is the real deal.

What does it mean to us if he is Bill's testimony is genuine - probably not a great deal. So much of this change process which I sense is still gently gathering pace is going to be up to us - not what we hear from Bill Wood or others.

We really really must engage in the cleansing process ever more fully day by day. This means taking risks to help others to be prepared for the coming changes.

Personally, I have been taking risks with my friendships and acquaintances for 4 years or more now. At first I would just blurt out what I thought about our current situation which of course was largely counter productive. Now, I tend to be a lot more subtle in trying to awaken others.

I send an email to a short list of about 5 people who I have established are receptive but largely ignorant. The deal I have made with them is that I will send them only concretely rooted information. I tell them also that I look across the whole piste which includes quite esoteric stuff but I will not send any of that.

Bill Wood's testimony caused me a little concern because he bridges from the concrete to the esoteric. Nevertheless, my piece this week included a link to Bill's meeting with Kerry.

The reaction from an Arab friend on my email list was amazingly confirmatory of everything Bill said about the US's tomahawk attack prior to Gulf War 2!

Result: I think Bill Wood can be believed!

Referee
26th January 2012, 13:43
This was explained in the begining of the Interview. He was a member of Seal Team 9 a classified unit. Not available to the public.

So are we happy to ignore what was stated in the letter post 187?

Many SEAL imposters when confronted with the information I have provided will resort to claiming that their records are sealed, burned or their SEAL Operations were Classified and that there are no official records of them.

Before any classified operations may be undertaken as a SEAL Operator, a man must first successfully complete the Basic Underwater Demolition/SEAL (BUD/S) Training program and then the follow-on secondary training program. The names of all those who successfully graduate from that training program sequence are compiled in the SEAL database. Later participation in classified operations has "no impact" on whether or not a person is listed as a graduate of the training program.

There are records of every man who has qualified for the title of “SEAL”; there have been and will continue to be secret missions, but there are NO secret SEALs.


¤=[Post Update]=¤



Anyway...is this supposed to be his real name then? William Newel Brockbrader?
.

It would be really helpful if someone knew the answer to that question!! ;)

To say that the person in question would have to have a National Security Clearance way above top secret.

There are probably hundreds of Seals we do not know about have a look in the US Space Comand!

charlesfrith
26th January 2012, 13:55
Interesting point. I've only been immersed in a lot of this information for a year. Granted once I realised it was important I put in 18 hours a day for a year but I've often wondered if I could have handled a 20 year wait and the answer is 'not well'. I agree with your assessment that a cumulative speed effect is in place.

rgds. charles

DarMar
26th January 2012, 13:57
ok this is kinda funny :)

Asking military for credible information? i almoust choked in morning coffee :)
And please jaybee don't think something bad will happen to anyone, that should help a bit. Specially David as he's targeted individual not without reason.
I only said that This guy wants to be close and meet people that PC and David knows. I wish best not only for him but for all in universe. Dont use fear as a tool, atleast try not to use it. I was simply stating my intuition and never said someone will be hurt ;)


The point is, does it really matter about UFOs, Jump rooms, Yellow cubes, Mars, buildings on the Moon, Reptilians, Shape-shifter? There must be all sorts of weird stuff in the universe, which we are never going to know about... or remember. You are never going to get to play with them!!!
They are fancy toys for the wealthy.

What is important is what 'they' are doing on the ground, here in your towns.

The ancient masters achieved enlightenment without these playthings.

If you chase after this stuff, you will just like a mouse in a maze...running in circles...to someone else's tune. It is all, ALL, about consciousness! Either you are in control of it, or someone else is.

If you say the word Gullible fast enough, you will hear the word ORANGE.


AND this is what i mostly agree we should look at on some larger scale amongst us. Power is in our consciousness, and only in that.
Chasing info arround is pitfall. And as i said before what should good that give since guy dint told anything at all?
Actually for what should we take his credibility? tomahawks? but...but... we use weather weapon, scalar, hyperdimensional and he revealed guided tomahawk? guess im happy i wasnt drinking my coffee while listening to him.

Tarka the Duck
26th January 2012, 14:03
So...is the general consensus that we can't ever look for evidence? It seems there is no point in doing so, as many are saying that it will have been tampered with.
But they only "know" this because they are choosing to believe it.

How do we ascertain what is the closest to truth that we can hope to get?
Are we back to "resonating" and "intuition"? How can we be sure that isn't just supporting our personal agenda/belief system?

The age old questions.......;)

BestLion
26th January 2012, 14:10
Asking military for credible information?
I was in the US Army..he should have a few papers..if he was in the military a DD 214 form of discharge 'doesn't matter in elite or not all soldiers get this upon release of a active duty assignment 'even after AIT. Also he should have orders of military contract end. And a letter of retirement points.This would also signify the time he served if be active duty or reserves..As I said ALL SOLDIERS get these forms! Also he should have past military ID cards, and a file of medical records. ALL SOLDIERS get this.
So if he wants to prove his authenticity he should post those forms online..if not skeptics will hound him.

Brodie75
26th January 2012, 14:15
It might help to actually watch and listen to both video's before making uninformed statements.
Just a little advice.
Passing judgements based on second hand opinions doesn't help anyone.;)

DarMar
26th January 2012, 14:18
Evidence cant be found on internet, even if you do it has big question mark about credibility.
There is alot of souls and possibility of internet to hold information from almoust anyone for ages on it. Do we need to read all? it would be great loss of time for me but as i learned long time before there is no universal solution for all .. so maybe reading and digging info works for someone but not for me.

I really dunno how 'resonating' and 'intuition' looks in your eyes so i wont describe it in my colors too much, ill just say i use that whole my life.
Love, understanding, acceptance, intuition, will....

And for me to grow i usually dont digg for more answers, actually i need more questions. Cause answers are all around and in us.
A propper question does trick for me.
Thats why i dont credit much info from persons who spills information like raindrops.

Leprechaun
26th January 2012, 14:22
Having watched both the first interview and the live stream, i would just like to say thanks to everyone who made it possible. I dont know one way or the other whether what was said is true, indeed what is truth anyway. What i will say is this, the information given by BW Feels intuitively correct, he comes across to me as genuine, and as for the evasiness spoken of elsewhere, to me it feels like there is a very real reason why everything thatbis know was not revealed. I have a real sense that something is imminent, i just wish i knew what BW knows in terms of the chess game

Mike Gorman
26th January 2012, 14:38
Mind you, it is THE most effective way to remove all credibility from someone is'nt it...the more vicious and
manipulative people these days seem to make a habit of labeling those who stand in their way as "Pedophile' and immediately
people are repulsed and disgusted-all credibility vanished..a kind of 'lynch mob' mentality comes into play-and this guy actually
had relations with a young lady of 16-in my country this is the age of consent for sexual matters-so it is merely geography that works against him.
I do not know if this guy is 100% genuine, but I would not dismiss him with a mere Ad Hominem attack -The Navy Seal team who met their end in the Helicopter
after the alleged elimination of Osama Bin Laden is also very 'convenient'. I actually think this man has more going in his favor, the sex offender matter is BS.

Nerge
26th January 2012, 14:40
Having watched both the first interview and the live stream, i would just like to say thanks to everyone who made it possible. I dont know one way or the other whether what was said is true, indeed what is truth anyway. What i will say is this, the information given by BW Feels intuitively correct, he comes across to me as genuine, and as for the evasiness spoken of elsewhere, to me it feels like there is a very real reason why everything thatbis know was not revealed. I have a real sense that something is imminent, i just wish i knew what BW knows in terms of the chess game

I have to agree. Whether people believe him or not it doesn't hurt to be aware of what is being said; if they then decide not to listen to that source due to it being 'a waste of time' or not credible to them, then that's their own free will.

Personally at this point in time where it's very easy to go nuts trying to work out the truth, I'll go with my gut feelings, try and stay positive and just make myself aware of any many sources of info as possible; it also helps to stop yourself going crazy. :)

You never know when something will help to connect the pieces of the bigger puzzle, now or at some point later on; by dismissing a large proportion of info out there much may be missed, again, it doesn't have to become your belief you can also merely stay neutral to the idea if that works, each to their own. :)

christian
26th January 2012, 14:43
So...is the general consensus that we can't ever look for evidence? It seems there is no point in doing so, as many are saying that it will have been tampered with.
But they only "know" this because they are choosing to believe it.

How do we ascertain what is the closest to truth that we can hope to get?
Are we back to "resonating" and "intuition"? How can we be sure that isn't just supporting our personal agenda/belief system?

You're jumping from one extreme to the other ;)

It's simply not that easy to find bulletproof evidence to substantiate his claims. Much of what he said may only be confirmed/debunked by events unfolding eventually.

When it comes to one's personal agenda/belief system, each one has a personal responsibility. I have no problem with listening to his testimony and leaving everything I cannot prove one way or the other in abeyance.

Tony stated something similar before:


If you chase after this stuff, you will just like a mouse in a maze...running in circles...to someone else's tune. It is all, ALL, about consciousness! Either you are in control of it, or someone else is.

Daft Ada
26th January 2012, 14:51
Well having watched it I have to say I didn't think he actually said much at all. Did I miss something?
David Wilcock, (Who I thought looked very ill by the way, You need to take better care of yourself and take time out for rest and relaxation David.) seemed to say most of the actual information and nothing that was said hasn't been heard by us all before. If anything all he did was confirm some of what was said by Dr Burisch

BestLion
26th January 2012, 14:54
Well having watched it I have to say I didn't think he actually said much at all. Did I miss something?
David Wilcock, (Who I thought looked very ill by the way, You need to take better care of yourself and take time out for rest and relaxation David.) seemed to say most of the actual information and nothing that was said hasn't been heard by us all before. If anything all he did was confirm some of what was said by Dr Burisch
I watched about 10-15 minutes of it and skimmed the transcripts..I also didnt really pick up anything new that has not already been said by countless others.
And yes I agree David looked a bit under the weather. I hope he can rest up and get some relaxation.

Tarka the Duck
26th January 2012, 15:01
You're jumping from one extreme to the other

Yes, I know....my dad used tell me all the time :o !!!! Thanks for reminding me...!

Brodie75
26th January 2012, 15:04
Well having watched it I have to say I didn't think he actually said much at all. Did I miss something?
David Wilcock, (Who I thought looked very ill by the way, You need to take better care of yourself and take time out for rest and relaxation David.) seemed to say most of the actual information and nothing that was said hasn't been heard by us all before. If anything all he did was confirm some of what was said by Dr Burisch
I watched about 10-15 minutes of it and skimmed the transcripts..I also didnt really pick up anything new that has not already been said by countless others.
And yes I agree David looked a bit under the weather. I hope he can rest up and get some relaxation.

For someone who admits to not seeing all of the interview you sure do have a lot to say.
Before further comment maybe you could go back and actually watch it all.
It would certainly add to your credibility.

ljwheat
26th January 2012, 15:05
:bigfish:Well ,Well, well less than 24 hrs the disinformation lists,/ debunkers,/ disc editors, /nay sawyer’s/ film editor’s,/document manipulator’s,/Matrix adjusters are busy frying the egg’s we’ve just had for breakfast, saying NO , no that was an omelet you eat, not over easy. Plus they were powdered egg’s not real .

In the Matrix all things come into existence at the hands of the controllers. Again who dose this serve, and if this information was a bunch or bunk, why would they go to all the bother of debunking the debunked?:spy:

Doesn’t this affirm that there is something being said that someone doesn’t want said, So now lets do our best to discredit this?:hail:

Or is it just the group that love’s to dig in the dirt at our picnic and coming to the table with dirty hands dripping mud into the food for thought we all want to taste test. :hungry:

Contaminating the drinking water, no one want to taste it after that. And if the water was bad in the first place then the interviewers should have put up this disclaimer at the beginning of the sessions.

Just like in Texas hold’em poker, you learn who the bluffer’s are and make notes and skip over there statements from that point on. Whether its poker or chess or driving a car, back seat driving is dangerous. And the peanut gallery is always debunking every move.

Its like taking apart a Rolex watch completely displayed for all to see hundred’s of little tiny peaces, then someone walks up and pulls a part out of his pocket and drops it into the rest of the display.

The part many in all intensive purposes be a valid peace of a watch , but a piece of a watch from some other place and time will no work , the term is a monkey wrench in the machine.

Just to many people with monkey wrenches standing around with to much time on there hands, or Glades Cravitts across the street peering thru the blinds, Abner, Abner, look, look what the Nabors are doing, I cant hear a word there saying But, but I know there up to something I just can feel it.

All this flying in on the wings of a butter fly, (what if, what if, what if, ) silence is golden?:lalala:

Namaste John



:bigfish:

Unified Serenity
26th January 2012, 15:21
I prefer thinking things through, and if I have questions about someone's background as they are trying to share information which requires a great deal of trust and belief on the part of the hearer, then so be it. If I see something that sets alarm bells ringing like, is his background credible, would this story wash in reality, and I ask those questions only to be shouted down as a fear monger, hater, debunker etc then this movement just smacks to me as not credible.

Sure, I can believe there is strange stuff in the world, but so many want to turn to the fantastic to explain the simple really. Many want to believe some great lost civilization built stone monuments when I just posted a thread showing in the most simple of ways 1 man can move a 17 ton block all by himself, set it upright in a hole just like at Stone Henge, Coral Castle or any of the other great monuments! Imagine what a group dedicated to doing it could accomplish!

No, we need aliens from far away places with incredible technology to solve our problems! We need to ascend! NO WE DON'T. We need to learn how to listen to each other again, how to examine things from a simple place, and work together as we did in days of old.

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?39357-Stone-Henge-and-Coral-Castle-building-solved

CdnSirian
26th January 2012, 16:04
Unified Serenity brings up a good point. Do we need to ascend? Can ascension come before compassion and caring? If the entire human race were compassionate and caring beings everyone would be taken care of and happy. Then maybe we'd "ascend" (whatever that really means) without even noticing. Simply put, we would be a race of really nice people.

Can we be a race of decent people? As foolish as this is going to sound, say for example a clerk at a bank refuses to sign any foreclosure documents. He/she loses the job. Then every customer of that bank (imagine Bank of America) donates one dollar to this clerk and the family, as thanks. The clerk would suddenly be a millionaire. And every clerk refused to sign any foreclosure doc. Lost the job, received one dollar from every bank customer. And so on and so on. I know, totally Pollyanna.

That leaves the bank free to fire anyone it wants, for refusing to act so cruelly to another human being and its welfare. With no threat to anyone. To be even more preposterous, what if one CEO of one bank said "we're burning all the mortgages. We will contract with every homeowner to pay one quarter of their monthly income as payment for their house. The house will be re-assessed to market value (reducing property taxes). ".

This is beginner abundance paradigm thinking. Without FE even. Without aliens, gods, or more technology. No one does without if everyone who can gives one dollar/Euro whatever.

We all live in extreme insecurity, poor, rich, and the global controllers. If they were secure they wouldn't be manipulating us. This is one big bad dream.

Wade Frazier makes this point over and over. An abundance paradigm must at least be imagined if we are ever to get FE. Everything we think and do is currently motivated by fear of more scarcity. Omg look at what's coming next - war with Iran? Will China and Russia jump into the fray? More devastation with only the war industry making any money? More scarcity for us, even if we do have our running water and electricity.

The point being that US gets dissed for warning us that the idea of Ascension may be a huge trap. Whether or not bad/good aliens are real, are going to help or eat us alive, or whether some of us may "ascend" and end up on a parallel earthly heaven, and the rest of us will end up total slaves to the nasty global controllers, everyone equal and poor, who do we want to be?

Why wouldn't some alien race looking down at us be thinking "omg they are cavemen with some technology, let's get the heck out of here"--or "let's just go down and take the place, they don't deserve it"....

If nothing could ever change, if we cannot have FE, if we cannot develop any "ascension" properties - who are we going to be? O.K. off to work now. Regards all.

Alie
26th January 2012, 17:08
IMHO ...
We will never know the truth about ANY whistleblowers. That's why we've gathered around like minded folks (kind of like church denominations). And it's true, you feel like you're "home" at a particular church when you resonate with the pastor and other members. But from personal experience, I've learned how foolish it is if you think these mortal people (leadership et al) are gods.

So I say that to say ... everyone who chose to watch these interviews provided through Project Camelot (Kerry) & later joined by Bill Ryan and David Wilcock is making a free will choice to honor the leadership roles of these three folks - Kerry, Bill & David. Don't you think they are doing their best to do "due diligence" before they associate their names with these whistleblowers? Don't you think they have resources we will NOT have (and probably never will have) access to? Are these people human and could they be duped (possibly but unlikely) and provide us BAD "intel? Of course, but that's not their intention.

So, you see how we are "pontificators" and I think it's silly. I'd rather spend the time checking out the "leaders" that we're relying on to bring us information, RATHER than what we tend to do --- acting like we know better than them. And by the way, I "trust" Bill Ryan and Kerry Cassidy to bring me the best information they know how to do --- that's my due diligence based on the body of their work. I don't know David W. but they seem to be confident in his credibility, so until they aren't, he passes my scrutiny too.

Questions of course, keep our forum and community vibrant, but I think it's important to ask yourself the bigger question - whether you believe/trust Bill R., Kerry & David.

Unified Serenity
26th January 2012, 17:19
The light one's get on with their work quietly not looking for attention. We have a time traveler in Mr. Woods now:

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Yes, it's all proven now. The GFL says so. No need to do anything the GFL are doing it all. The illuminati are going away. Just raise your energy and focus on ascension. wow.... it's easy to see why ppl love these messages. Go back to sleep and rest. Just raise energy and ascend in December. :grouphug:

Unified Serenity
26th January 2012, 17:36
Don't you think they are doing their best to do "due diligence" before they associate their names with these whistleblowers? Don't you think they have resources we will NOT have (and probably never will have) access to? Are these people human and could they be duped (possibly but unlikely) and provide us BAD "intel? Of course, but that's not their intention.

Ummm, no I don't think Kerry provided any proof or even attempted to mention it in the first interview that she had vetted Mr. Woods. How about some simple enlistment paperwork, or his exit paperwork, or his court martial paperwork. When was the last time you ever were involved in any legal preceedings that you did not get some paperwork?

How about a photo or two in the fields with is fellow soldiers? As I said, I've never met a soldier who did not have that, and he probably has some, but he didn't show them. He can cover up their faces. I actually do think he was in the military, but where are the basic proofs? Ok, set that all aside and think like someone who is responsible for completing missions and his men's / bases safety.

I did a little role playing the other day in my mind. I put myself in a role of a commanding officer over Mr. Wood's SEAL team. I said, if I were commanding this team, and they were doing highly classified missions and the guy with his finger on the guiding system fire controls for a million dollar deadly weapon suddenly gets a conscience and fails to complete his mission, would I send him back into the field to do even more unsavory tasks as indicated by Mr. Woods first interview?

My first priority is to complete missions and to protect my men. If a soldier is no longer trustworthy and is in direct control of such a powerful weapon as a guided tomahawk, would I give him another one to use? Forget the waste of letting it hit a "safe" area of dirt, what about him turning it around and using it on say a forward base of ours? I can see the scene,

I'm sipping coffee and talking with General X, and he says, "So, what's up with your boy Woods?" Setting my cup down, "Well Sir, we really taught him a lesson! We court martialed him to put him at even more mental stress, and he is out in the field thirty miles from here getting ready to hit that school full of those little girls to put pressure on the village to comply." The General stands up and says, "You stupid mother ❤❤❤❤er, you did what?" and just as I hear those words an alarm sounds and in comes a tomahawk with a nice camera on it for Woods to see the look on our faces as we say, "OH SH IT"!

I mean just look at this logically. Woods career was over the moment HE decided to not complete that mission. He would have either gone to prison or been sent to peel 100,000 potatoes while his contract expired. There are plenty of SEALS to take his place, he was not that valuable of an asset. No one in the military is that valuable of an asset who shows they cannot complete a mission which the military deems necessary. No, I am not justifying missions, I am a student of Sun Tzu and knowing my situation.

I have other issues with information shared in the second interview. I just do not believe all of Mr. Woods testimony about what happened in the military. We can agree or disagree on how we see Mr. Woods comments. From my experience, that part does not stand up logically. Some would say, so what, he is telling us important information. Is he really? What has he revealed that we have not heard before? Remember, repeat a lie often and the people begin to believe it. I do not believe we have anything energetically / miraculous coming Dec. 21, 2012. I do believe our environment can be manipulated by technology, politically, in the media to help us think a certain way and want certain changes. That's what I think is happening. We are being manipulated into a new world system, plain and simple.

seehas
26th January 2012, 17:38
Hi Kathie
Looking into it I found this.

There is a WILLIAM NEAL BROCKBRADER on Offendex (http://www.offendex.com/directory/UT/B/WILLIAM_NEWEL_BROCKBRADER_298689) with a picture.

Which links the name to the face.

http://www.offendex.com/fullsize/67/13/6713bfbfc63209d89cc1b7993de77f50978c597b.jpg

This is the same bloke as the one on the Camelot video...

Kathie

well he didnt lie on the fact with the 16year old girl, but he should have known that there is a picture of him in the internet .. so why doesnt he tell his real name directly i dont unterstand that.

didnt he say he was pretty clever and brilliant in tactical thinking he was best in the tests etc etc.. that wasnt a tactical masterpiece mr woods.

im not discrediting what he said in the both interviews but somehow this is weird ;)

Unified Serenity
26th January 2012, 17:44
Hi Kathie
Looking into it I found this.

There is a WILLIAM NEAL BROCKBRADER on Offendex (http://www.offendex.com/directory/UT/B/WILLIAM_NEWEL_BROCKBRADER_298689) with a picture.

Which links the name to the face.

http://www.offendex.com/fullsize/67/13/6713bfbfc63209d89cc1b7993de77f50978c597b.jpg

This is the same bloke as the one on the Camelot video...

Kathie

well he didnt lie on the fact with the 16year old girl, but he should have known that there is a picture of him in the internet .. so why doesnt he tell his real name directly i dont unterstand that.

I saw that yesterday. There were some comments below saying not to believe everything, so it's quite possible it was consentual and the girl has no issues, and it was used against him. That does not cooborate his story completely. I think the thing most people are interested in is looking glass, yellow book and Dec. 21, 2012. The best lies are 90% truth. I just get tired of whistle blowers not providing basic proof of their background.

I used to trust Kerry's word for it. I don't now. In fact, I don't trust anyone's word for anything anymore. I think a lot of money can be made this year pumping out books, setting up conferences, and quite frankly some people are going to go off the deep end when certain things don't happen. People can be scared easily when they put their faith into believing other's stories.

Lots of manipulation is happening right now, worldwide.

seehas
26th January 2012, 17:52
david wilcock stated in the interview that he brought bill in contact with guys that would eat him for breakfast if he wasnt the real deal, i realy would like to know the facts that claim was based on because the stuff i heard from him everybody can claim that watched a few camelot videos.

dont get me wrong the interview was great but im not truely convinced in woods story yet.

maybe its because i dont like the 2012 everything is going to be light and beautiful, people tend to sit on the couch and wait for things to happend ... if we as human species wait for a change nothing will change to our will.

the change has to be us