Orbs and other light phenomenon

[rlevan1111]

I posted some awesome pictures of orbs and other interesting light phenomenon in the groups:ALPHA-OMEGA and CANADA. feel free to check them out. Question for people at project Avalon: Are we aloud to post pictures in the Forum?If yes how do we post pics in the forum?:confused:

[Ross]

Hi there,

At bottom right of the thread page click 'Go Advanced' there are image and vid options. Good luck.

Ross

[rlevan1111]

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/attachment.php?attachmentid=1359

[rlevan1111]

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/attachment.php?attachmentid=1346
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/attachment.php?attachmentid=1347
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/attachment.php?attachmentid=1348
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/attachment.php?attachmentid=1349
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/attachment.php?attachmentid=1350
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/attachment.php?attachmentid=1351
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/attachment.php?attachmentid=1344
http://projectavalon.net/forum4/attachment.php?attachmentid=1343

[Anchor]

Im not saying this is an "orb" and I am not saying it isn't either.

I do have doubts with many photos of this kind. You clearly used a flash here, and any out of focus bug may have caused backscatter. The lens was probably wide open and there was not much light - hence the blurred background.

I have some friends that often post images like this. Some are explainable this way, some are explainable as lens flare (usually easier to detect)

Some are just plain bloody wierd and very very hard to explain as anything but something that the human eye didnt see at the time.

I'll go and have a look at the others you have posted.

John..

[Teakai]

Cool!!

Have you zoomed in on the orbs to see if there are any details?

[Tuza]

[QUOTE=rlevan1111;35060]http://projectavalon.net/forum4/attachment.php?attachmentid=1346

Your a very lucky person because you are one of those special people that are able to capture these magical spiritual orbs and phenomena. Now I dont know about anyone else here but on the third link I see the outline of a human in that light in a creek is it there?

Sometimes you might capture an orb with what looks like an eye in the middle of it and I call the colourful orbs mandalas because that is what they remind me of. A friend of mine on another forum is able to see them with the naked eye and take photos of them in day and night. I on the other hand never get a darn thing no matter what I do, trying or not. So be happy, you have a lot of good company lookin out for ya. Keep taking those snaps, once you are able to get them then that's it so your lucky here.

[Studeo]

Check out the orbs in this Avalon posting.

http://projectavalon.net/forum4/showthread.php?3881-Spirals-Underground

[Helvetic]

Im sure there is an existence of real paranormal orbs, but the most orb pictures you see on the net are not.

False Orb Experiment
By Rich

Purpose

The false orb experiment is intended to offer a large selection of non-paranormal orb pictures, descriptions, and production methods. A large array of reference images will be very helpful for determining potential authentic paranormal orb images. The experiment will give information on what caused the false orb. Descriptions of how the orbs were produced is also available for people who want to repeat the experiment themselves to see if their results match.

Camera Set-up: used a Cannon PowerShot A520 digital camera for the photographic false orb experiment. The camera settings are as follows:

Shooting mode - aperture priority with full open aperture of f2.6

Zoom - full wide angle of 35mm (35mm camera equivalent)

Lens - manually focused to infinity (auto focus does not work in darkness)

Film (CCD) speed - ISO 400

Flash - on

Self timer - set to take a set of ten pictures in succession

I placed the tripod mounted camera on the back steps to face the open field. This arrangement provided an elevated location for an increased camera to ground distance to minimize reflected light from the flash. I wanted to keep the background black without any nearby objects or ground showing up. This will provide maximum contrast for the resulting false orb images. I leveled the camera and then took a few test shots to determine background darkness. It was dark enough to proceed. For the dust orbs, I shook a mass of dust/lint above the front of the camera to form a cloud of dust while the camera was shooting is succession. For the insect photos, I mounted a black light with a reflector just below the camera in order to attract enough insects for good pictures.

Dust Orb Experiment

I shook clumps of lint above the front of the camera while it was taking pictures in succession. I first used lint from the drier and then the vacuum cleaner. Noticing some colored dust orbs in the photos, I decided to try shaking some red colored shirts to produce red lint to see if the colored dust orbs would be predominately red. Red dust orbs were very scarce. Moving back to using dust from the vacuum, I took some more pictures with the aperture stopped down to f6.3 to see its effects.

Results

Drier lint produced a general mix of white, grey and some colored orbs. Although the lint strands were generally around a thirty-second to an eighth inch long the resulting orbs were mostly round. The dust from the vacuum tended to have very few white orbs and the grey orbs were usually darker. The vacuum dust has a large proportion of fine silt particles which have a tendency to produce a greater abundance of grey orbs due to their small size and darker shade. The number of colored orbs was about the same for both. The red lint produced only two red orbs but it made mostly tan and cream colored orbs suggesting that lint color has a slight effect on orb color. No other colors were produced from the red lint.

I suspect most of the color comes from light diffraction. Colored orbs came from the vacuum dust which has almost no colored lint or silt in it. The drier lint only had a few colors but orbs of other colors showed up. The red lint has a smooth surface which does not produce diffraction effects which resulted in no atypical colored orbs. The variety of colors was similar to the diffraction colors as seen on a CD or DVD. I consider very little of the colors coming from refractive dispersion, like a rainbow or from a gem, because the color magenta shows up which cannot be produced by refraction. Nearly all of the particles in the drier lint and vacuum dust lacked the transparency needed to produce such vivid color in this manner.

The reduced aperture had a strong effect on the dust orbs, making them smaller and hexagonal in shape. All but the brightest orbs show the hexagonal shape. The most heavily overexposed orbs have lost some of the hex shape but generally show up when the image is darkened a great deal. These effects are very repeatable and easy to identify.

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Flying Insect False Orb Experiment

I placed a black light underneath the camera. Checked the camera settings and then turned on the light. I waited about five to ten minutes. Then I took about fifty pictures.

Results

The insect orbs are mostly irregular in shape often resembling the insect especially the larger closer ones. Round insect orbs are rare. Insect orbs are also very brilliantly white frequently overexposing the image. There extreme brilliancy is due to the insect’s relative large physical size as compared to dust or lint. This larger size provides more area to reflect the light from the flash to the camera lens. There images are typically smaller then other orb types due to the fact that further out insects will show up in the picture.

http://img638.imageshack.us/img638/2665/bild2t.png

Conclusions

Dust Orb Experiment

The particle that produced an orb image can generally be identified by the brightness. Bright orbs usually come from lint, while darker orbs come from smaller silt particles. Monitoring the ambient suspended dust will be worthwhile during an investigation that uses flash photography.

Orb color probably comes from light diffraction. The smooth surfaced lint strands produced no atypical colored orbs. Lint strand color has only a small effect on the resulting orb color

A reduced aperture makes all of the dust orbs small and hexagonal. This technique would be highly useful for paranormal orb photography if your camera has the aperture priority mode feature. One should test their camera out to see if the “hexagon” effect occurs and at what f-stops. All of the hexagonal orbs are fakes making the potential paranormal orbs stand out. Only the most overexposed dust orbs will be difficult to identify

Flying Insect False Orb Experiment

Insect orbs can be easily identified by their key features of “irregular shape” frequently resembling the insect and “very high brilliancy” often overexposing the image. Another useful identifying feature is the typical small size.

In conclusion this experiment had no intension to disprove the existence of real paranormal orbs. Its intention was to supply pictures of false orbs for comparing an unknown orb image in determining its authenticity.

Source:
midnite-walkers.com (http://www.midnite-walkers.com)

[Tuza]

I suppose that explains the round orbs I see with colours and objects in which have been photographed during the day?

No they are real orbs.

[bluestflame]

sometimes i see them with me cameraless eyes

[heyokah]

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[morguana]

sometimes i see them with me cameraless eyes

same here, but then there are lots of things that most dont see

thanks helvetic for your post i am always a bit questioning when it comes to anonomalies on photos, however always an open mind is needed because some photoes have been breath taking

[ArtyCarl]

Great post Helvetic, I have a film cameraman for one brother and a professional photographer for another and although I am very careful not to say all orbs are photographic anomalies, I think the vast majority are.

[Anchor]

Helvetic. Thanks for that post. Really excellent work there done by "Rich".

I have seen some pictures with orbs that did not use flash, and also for which lens flare is not a good explanation.

[Anchor]

Please can this thread be merged with the other orb thread?

[morguana]

was just doing it john, sorry folks if its out of sync, but the threads are merged :)
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[heyokah]

was just doing it john, sorry folks if its out of sync, but the threads are merged :)
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Where do I have to go now to follow this ????:rolleyes: