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5th February 2012, 17:14
alrighty then.....

i won't even type how rotten i feel today

let's just hope this blows over

it always does

into a better and brighter day


5th February 2012, 17:16
alrighty then.....

i won't even type how rotten i feel today

let's just hope this blows over

it always does

into a better and brighter day

Sorry you're not feeling well, Gooty. Too much of something?

Have a bit of headache myself today.

Hugs and Advil,

5th February 2012, 17:35
go sit in your rotteness for a while , embrace it, don't judge it, just sit in it and cheerily say "Yep I'm rotten...." Then eat a pizza, and a carton of ice cream and wallow in your rotteness.....after awhile it will lift...or you will get bored with one or the other.. if it doesn't ..go eat another pizza....

Don't suck it up or try to resist it or you will end up in the love junke committee where no matter how rotten you are you will insist that your are really just feeling the love.

5th February 2012, 17:39
Gooty, I am about to send you a big bolt of energy.


You/We are not Alone

We know much more today than we did yesterday

Every experience makes us better; including our reprogramming

Your glass isn't partially empty; it is filling up; soon your cup will runneth over

Cheer Up Gooty!:cool:

5th February 2012, 17:48
Gooty-you are a damn fine man sorry you are feeling down! But as all things go, that too shall pass! Be well!

5th February 2012, 17:54
Prior to My Vegetarian Days,,,When i had a headache from over indulging in mineral spirits or feeling poorly, A Roast Beef Hero with Lettuce Tomato Mayo salt and pepper, a big bag of Potato Chips and an ice cold coca cola suppressed my ailments tremendously. Well Worked for me. Reflexology (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reflexology) is good advice as well.

another bob
5th February 2012, 20:09
alrighty then.....

i won't even type how rotten i feel today

let's just hope this blows over

Greetings, Friend!

Life is filled with dissatisfaction. That's the First Noble Truth that Buddha articulated when he began his teaching mission. This sense of dissatisfaction generally arises from wanting things to be other than they are. When our desire is thwarted, we feel upset. Now, some will suggest supressing the symptoms of this dissatisfaction by stuffing oneself with food and toxins, or getting laid, or taking one's mind off their problems by watching TV, etc., but these strategies typically only serve to postpone our having to face what's really going on internally, that provoke the original sense of dis-ease.

In fact, we are always stimulating the motor and thinking mechanisms to overcome boredom, doubt, and discomfort and achieve well-being and pleasure. But those very mechanisms, by being constantly stimulated and brought to a point of achieving some sort of enjoyment, become insatiable. We require more and more remarkable stimulations of body and mind to achieve a relative degree of pleasure. The more we think, for example, the more extraordinary our thinking must become to satisfy us. We become addicted to the pursuits we can engage through motor activity and thought, and we are constantly agitated by this motivation. We feel always haunted by our limitations, our difficulties, or boredom, doubt, and discomfort.

When we feel uncomfortable, we generally employ some physical means for achieving release or a sense of pleasure. Social life, sexuality, pizza and ice cream, all kinds of physical activities are used as means for overcoming chronic discomfort. Likewise, because boredom is an emotional state, we are always seeking emotional stimulation through entertainments, the play of our relationships, aesthetic enjoyments. And we always seek to overcome doubt through activities of the mind, through reading, pursuing conventional knowledge, participating in speculative internet forums, daydreaming about trips to Neptune, and so on.

In the typical setting of the usual life, these means, physical, emotional, and mental, are constantly, chronically, in every moment, used in pursuit of a sense of pleasure, well-being, and release from these chronic difficulties. Fascination with ascension schemes, space operas, world endings, alien involvements, conspiracy rumors, etc. all serve to distract us from the fundamental condition of boredom, doubt, and discomfort at the core of our experience.

We keep hoping that something will hapen externally to change this sense of dissatisfaction with existence, maybe some kindly ET will appear to give us free energy, for example, but it never does, because nothing that has happened, is happening, or will happen in the external world has the power to touch and heal the internal conflict and sense of separation from Source we perceive at the heart of our being. In other words, we are always attempting to modify our experience by placing our bets on external changes, but this strategy is bound to fail, since only an internal revolution at the heart will break the spell of our self-imposed bondage. How does such a revolution come about?

Here's a thoughtful piece that addresses this subject with some clarity:

The real search isn’t a search into tomorrow, or to anywhere other than now. It’s starting to look into the very nature of this moment. In order to do that, you have to “stand in your own two shoes,” as my teacher used to say. What she meant by “standing in your own two shoes” is you have to look clearly into your own experience. Stop trying to have someone else’s experience. Stop chasing freedom or happiness, or even spiritual enlightenment. Stand in your own shoes, and examine closely: What’s happening right here and right now? Is it possible to let go of trying to make anything happen? Even in this moment, there may be some suffering, there may be some unhappiness, but even if there is, is it possible to no longer push against it, to try to get rid of it, to try to get somewhere else?

I understand that our instinct is to move away from what’s not comfortable, to try to get somewhere better, but as my teacher used to say, “You need to take the backward step, not the forward step.” The forward step is always moving ahead, always trying to attain what you want, whether it’s a material possession or inner peace. The forward step is very familiar: seeking and more seeking, striving and more striving, always looking for peace, always looking for happiness, looking for love. To take the backward step means to just turn around, reverse the whole process of looking for satisfaction on the outside, and look at precisely the place where you are standing. See if what you are looking for isn’t already present in your experience.

So, again, to lay the groundwork for awakening, we must first let go of struggling. You let go by acknowledging that the end of struggle is actually present in your experience now. The end of struggle is peace. Even if your ego is struggling, even if you’re trying to figure this out and “do it right,” if you really look, you might just see that struggle is happening within a greater context of peace, within an inner stillness. But if you try to make stillness happen, you’ll miss it. If you try to make peace happen, you’ll miss it. This is more like a process of recognition, giving recognition to a stillness that is naturally present.

We’re not bringing struggle to an end. We’re not trying to not struggle anymore. We’re just noticing that there is a whole other dimension to consciousness that, in this very moment, isn’t struggling, isn’t resentful, isn’t trying to get somewhere. You can literally feel it in your body. You can’t think your way to not struggling. There isn’t a three–point plan of how not to struggle. It’s really a one–point plan: Notice that the peace, this end of struggling, is actually already present.

The process is therefore one of recognition. We recognize that there is peace now, even if your mind is confused. You may see that even when you touch upon peace now, the mind is so conditioned to move away from it that it will try to argue with the basic fact of peace’s existence within you: “I can’t be at peace yet because I have to do this, or that, or this question hasn’t been answered, or that question hasn’t been answered, or so–and–so hasn’t apologized to me.” There are all sorts of ways that the egoic mind can insist that something needs to happen, something needs to change, in order for you to be at peace. But this is part of the dream of the mind. We’re all taught that something needs to change for us to experience true peace and freedom.

Just imagine for a moment that this isn’t true. Even though you may believe that it’s true, just imagine for a moment: What would it be like if you didn’t need to struggle, if you didn’t need to make an effort to find peace and happiness? What would that feel like now? And just take a moment to be quiet and see if peace or stillness is with you in this moment.

Excerpted from Falling Into Grace: Insights on the End of Suffering
by Adyashanti


5th February 2012, 20:37

5th February 2012, 21:36
Oh no, I hope it wasn't the latest interview that got you down. These quotes always seem to cheer me up when I'm down:-

“You can't stay in your corner of the Forest waiting for others to come to you. You have to go to them sometimes.”
― A.A. Milne, Winnie-the-Pooh

“If you live to be a hundred, I want to live to be a hundred minus one day so I never have to live without you.”
― A.A. Milne, Winnie-the-Pooh

“If ever there is tomorrow when we're not together... there is something you must always remember. you are braver than you believe, stronger than you seem, and smarter than you think. But the most important thing is, even if we're apart... I'll always be with you.”
― A.A. Milne

“We'll be Friends Forever, won't we, Pooh?' asked Piglet.
Even longer,' Pooh answered.”
― A.A. Milne, Winnie-the-Pooh

“How lucky I am to have something that makes saying goodbye so hard.”
― A.A. Milne, Winnie-the-Pooh

“Weeds are flowers, too, once you get to know them.”
― A.A. Milne

“Some people care too much. I think it's called love.”
― A.A. Milne, Winnie-the-Pooh

“Sometimes,' said Pooh, 'the smallest things take up the most room in your heart.”
― A.A. Milne

“Promise me you'll always remember: You're braver than you believe, and stronger than you seem, and smarter than you think.”
― A.A. Milne

“I think we dream so we don’t have to be apart for so long. If we’re in each other’s dreams, we can be together all the time.”
― A.A. Milne, Winnie-the-Pooh

“Promise me you'll never forget me because if I thought you would, I'd never leave.”
― A.A. Milne

“It is more fun to talk with someone who doesn't use long, difficult words but rather short, easy words like "What about lunch?”
― A.A. Milne, Winnie-the-Pooh

“One of the advantages of being disorganized is that one is always having surprising discoveries.”
― A.A. Milne

28th October 2012, 10:02
Thank you Mulder and 9e9, just seeing this now after all this time...
and Bob WF Sebastion Nancy V, Energy Gardener(come back), and Bill for having this forum for a guy like me to find peers and friends... even when I resist.